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Bidenflation: USA in total economic meltdown as Nov. Jobs Report ‘A Huge Miss’ For U.S. Economy. RICK SANTORUM joins me to talk about what we must do to stop Biden now! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Total disaster. That is what we are witnessing take place
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Speaker 1: in this country right now because of out of control
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Speaker 1: government spending, inflation, and people that are just stopping even
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Speaker 1: looking for a job. Now, there are numbers out that
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Speaker 1: are telling us just how bad things are, and I
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Speaker 1: want you to understand exactly what the left will tell
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Speaker 1: you and what Democrats are going to say to make
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Speaker 1: this sound better. All right now, before I get into
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Speaker 1: all these details about what's happening in the economy, these
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Speaker 1: shocking job numbers, in a moment, want to give your
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Speaker 1: heads up. We're going to be joined by former presidential candidate,
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Speaker 1: former Senator Rick Santorum, because he is now put together
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Speaker 1: an incredible agenda to actually reign in Congress, and Congress
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Speaker 1: if we decide to do this at the state level,
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Speaker 1: cannot stop us. This is how we stop the insane
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Speaker 1: government spending of the Republicans as much as the Democrats
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Speaker 1: are doing right now trying to bankrupt this country. So
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Speaker 1: make sure that you share this podcast right now with
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Speaker 1: your family and friends at the little forward button and
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Speaker 1: share it on social media, because you're gonna want to
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Speaker 1: hear this game plan that Rick Santorum is focused on
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Speaker 1: right Now it's something that my good friend Mark Levin
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Speaker 1: has also been talking about, and it's a way to
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Speaker 1: use the Constitution Article five for us to actually we'll
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Speaker 1: fight back in an incredible way. And he's going to
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Speaker 1: give us the blueprint for this. You're gonna want to
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Speaker 1: take notes. Coming up in a moment, he will join us.
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Speaker 1: But before we do that, I've got to get these
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Speaker 1: updates for you on where we are with this economy.
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Speaker 1: The US economy added just two hundred and ten thousand
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Speaker 1: jobs in November. Now, this is normally a month that
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Speaker 1: the number of people that are hired skyrockets because you
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Speaker 1: need employment for the holidays. How bad this miss expectations
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Speaker 1: buy more than three hundred thousand jobs. How bad is
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Speaker 1: Biden inflation? Let me give you this number. Surging fuel
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Speaker 1: prices are now hurting poor Americans more than anybody else,
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Speaker 1: which we knew was going to happen, all because the
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Speaker 1: Biden administration deliberately and purpose he decided that we were
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Speaker 1: going to arbitrarily make the price of gas and oil
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Speaker 1: go up so that people would be forcing the submission
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Speaker 1: to buy electric cars and get on the kumbaya bandwagon
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Speaker 1: of global warming. Therefore, we've seen a surge in fuel prices.
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Speaker 1: They undid everything Trump did to give us independence, energy, independence,
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Speaker 1: and the rest of the world. And now the terrorists
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Speaker 1: in the Middle East are making them more money than
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Speaker 1: they know what to do with, so they're going to
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Speaker 1: fund terrorism. Just so you know. Now, across the US
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Speaker 1: over the past year, these fuel prices have skyrocketed. Who
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Speaker 1: is that hurting. It is hitting the poorest Americans, the
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Speaker 1: most majority of those people actually voted for Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: These new report that came out and was published today
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Speaker 1: the Financial Times set out price rises and they set
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Speaker 1: them out and that have hit the country's biggest parts
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Speaker 1: the economy and where it's the drivers, it's everyday motorists.
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Speaker 1: It's forcing many to overhaul the way they work or
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Speaker 1: ditch their jobs entirely because they can't afford to get
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Speaker 1: from point A to point B. This is also hurting
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Speaker 1: companies like Uber and Left, the two biggest rides sharing
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Speaker 1: apps out there. And now they're even trying to use
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Speaker 1: the burden by encouraging a switch to electric vehicles for
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Speaker 1: their drivers. Now, notice this is exactly what the Left
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Speaker 1: wants you to do. It's the same exact thing they're
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Speaker 1: doing with COVID nineteen. You're going to submit to the
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Speaker 1: way that we're telling you must live your life, and
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Speaker 1: if you don't, you will become an outcast. We are
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Speaker 1: going to have two different class of citizenship in America,
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Speaker 1: those that agree with the tyrants and those that don't.
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Speaker 1: So this is no different than their game plan that
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Speaker 1: they're using with COVID nineteen. You're gonna get the vaccine,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get triple vacs, quadruple vacs. You're gonna do
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Speaker 1: whatever we tell you to do. You're gonna wear a
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Speaker 1: mask even if even if you're triple vacs, because we're
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Speaker 1: totally in control and we're tyrants over you. That's exactly
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Speaker 1: what Fauci's doing. It is no different than their energy policy.
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Speaker 1: You know, you have an energy secretary that didn't even
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Speaker 1: know what the consumption of American barrels of oil were
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Speaker 1: per day. That's a pretty normal number that you would
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Speaker 1: know if you're the energy secretary. Now the question is
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Speaker 1: why did the Energy secretary not know this two weeks ago?
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Speaker 1: Because she doesn't care, because her job is not to
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Speaker 1: actually have energy independence or low gas prices or to
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Speaker 1: help the American consumer. Her job is to implement what
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Speaker 1: you just heard from Uber and Lyft, which they're implementing
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Speaker 1: from the federal government. They're trying to tell their people
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Speaker 1: that are driving their cars, Hey, you need to switch
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Speaker 1: to an electric vehicle. Financial times, as many drivers are
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Speaker 1: frustrated as the prices are weighing, particularly on the bottom
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Speaker 1: end of the income scale, drivers seem to be driving less,
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Speaker 1: said Melissa Berry, editor of The Rideshare Guy, an industry blog. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what democrats want, right. They want you to
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Speaker 1: drive less because they're trying to save the environment, they claim,
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Speaker 1: which means they have to dictate to you how you
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Speaker 1: live your life and force you into changes. I want
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Speaker 1: to go back to when you had Barack Obama office,
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Speaker 1: and he's not the Keystone pipeline. You have an energy
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Speaker 1: secretary then, who actually said on the record at one point,
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Speaker 1: we America US do what Europe has done, and we
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Speaker 1: must make a gallon of gas as high as it
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Speaker 1: is in Europe to force people into submission so they'll
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Speaker 1: start taking public transportation, ride sharing and electric vehicles. Now,
5:13
Speaker 1: when that was said back in twenty ten, whenever that
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Speaker 1: was all right? Early first first part of Obama's presidency,
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Speaker 1: the price of gas per gallon in America was like
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Speaker 1: two forty two thirty a gallon, and people were getting mad.
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Speaker 1: The price of a gallon of gas in Europe was
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Speaker 1: like seven to eight dollars because they selling leaders, so
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Speaker 1: a couple of several leaders to make a gallon. You
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Speaker 1: get the point, and their price per gallon over there
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Speaker 1: was like eight plus dollars. And that was back in
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Speaker 1: O eight oh nine. So imagine now what they want
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Speaker 1: gas prices to get to so that you'll be forced
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Speaker 1: to do what ubern Lift is telling their clients, right,
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Speaker 1: are their workers to do? Go get you an electric vehicle?
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Speaker 1: Suck it up. Now. The fact that Melissa Buried, the
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Speaker 1: editor of ride share Guiss drivers seem to be driving less.
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Speaker 1: That should tell you something as well. It's working. What
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Speaker 1: the Left wanting to do is it's working. This change
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Speaker 1: in the way the gig economy works in response to
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Speaker 1: fuel prices quote has no doubt exacerbated the drivers shortage
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Speaker 1: that Uber and Lyft have been periodically finding themselves in.
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Speaker 1: Did you know recently Uber and Lift or having problems
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Speaker 1: finding people to drive cars? Why? Because of gas prices?
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Speaker 1: The price posts at corner gas stations is killing the
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Speaker 1: ride sharing business. They're fine with us. They want you
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Speaker 1: to travel less, they want you to ride in fewer cars,
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Speaker 1: and they want to control every aspect of your life. Now.
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Speaker 1: Retreating the old market over the past week may bring
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Speaker 1: down retail petrol prices some, but so far drivers have
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Speaker 1: yet to see that price drop be actually passed them
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Speaker 1: at the pump. It takes a week or two to
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Speaker 1: get through the system now to cover extra fuel costs,
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Speaker 1: many gig drivers have adopted adapt to what changes, including
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Speaker 1: rejecting more customers who are far away. Others are just
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Speaker 1: quitting altogether. Quote. Some drivers have been decreasing the amount
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Speaker 1: of hours that they do. Some drivers have gone looking
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Speaker 1: for other jobs. That's what Beth Griffin, a former Uber
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Speaker 1: and Lyft driver who heads the Boston Independent Drivers Guild, said.
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Speaker 1: An online poll conducted this week by The Rideshare Guy
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Speaker 1: found ninety one percent of rideshare drivers worry about petrol prices,
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Speaker 1: and about half of drivers were driving less. Again, mission accomplished.
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Speaker 1: This is music to your ears if you're a tyrant
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Speaker 1: in the Biden administration. In fact, twelve percent of firm
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Speaker 1: they stopped driving entirely as a result of the high
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Speaker 1: gas prices. Again, this is exactly what the left wants.
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Speaker 1: They are going to celebrate this, this is good news. Now,
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Speaker 1: let's go back to the economy here. ABC News had
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Speaker 1: it this way when they were talking about the American
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Speaker 1: public being forced to try to figure out ways to
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Speaker 1: not only save money right now, but also the rising
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Speaker 1: prices at the pump, from the supermarket to retail stores
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Speaker 1: and the stops at the gas pump in between. Americans
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Speaker 1: are keenly aware of rising prices. What's currently driving a
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Speaker 1: lot of the increase now are things you've probably been
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Speaker 1: hearing a lot about supply chain glitches, lack of available
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Speaker 1: truckers to deliver goods and services, and short of workers
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Speaker 1: to produce a lot of those goods and services. There
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Speaker 1: it is right, a lot of goods and services. In
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Speaker 1: other words, the economy is going to crap and everybody
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Speaker 1: knows it. And all of this directly connects back to
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Speaker 1: the president. Now, Bloomberg said, the job numbers are a
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Speaker 1: real surprise, only half of what we actually anticipated. And
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Speaker 1: the reason why is because there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: people that said, screw and I'm just going to stand
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Speaker 1: the government. Diamond definitely. It's too expensive to try to
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Speaker 1: get a job, too expensive to get there, too expensive
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Speaker 1: drive there, can't afford it, so you just keep sending
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Speaker 1: me free money from the taxpayers. A change in non
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Speaker 1: farm payrolls comes in only half the level we anticipated
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Speaker 1: two hundred and ten thousand. That's a real surprise, and
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Speaker 1: that is going to cause some head scratching at the FED.
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Speaker 1: What do we do about that? I say, exactly what
9:03
Speaker 1: the head scratching is it the Fed? They're saying, holy crap,
9:06
Speaker 1: people are just saying we're not working anymore. Wall Street
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Speaker 1: Journal reporter on MSNBC this morning put it this way,
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Speaker 1: what's your gut first reaction to the job stomp them? Well,
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Speaker 1: this is a miss. You know. It's economists. As you said,
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Speaker 1: we're expecting around five hundred and seventy three thousand jobs.
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Speaker 1: We got significantly less than that. I think what you're
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Speaker 1: seeing here is what economists have been talking about throughout
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Speaker 1: the entire pandemic, which is that, you know, the trajectory
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Speaker 1: of the economy is really gonna depend on the trajectory
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Speaker 1: of the virus and how people are responding to that. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is where I have to call BS. This is
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Speaker 1: the bailout that the media is going to keep using.
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Speaker 1: If the economy is bad for Joe Biden. It's really
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Speaker 1: because okay, it's really because quote the pandemic. White House
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Speaker 1: Press Secretary Jansaki was on set on MSNBC this morning
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Speaker 1: and they asked her about the job numbers. She didn't
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Speaker 1: want to talk about it, so she deflected by saying,
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Speaker 1: this jobs number just crossed two hundred and ten jobs.
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Speaker 1: Just to add it, so two hundred and ten thousand.
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Speaker 1: So if we look at that breaking news right now,
10:14
Speaker 1: that's a number that feels a little what a little off? Well,
10:18
Speaker 1: I know this sounds a little archaic, but I can't
10:20
Speaker 1: comment on them until nine thirty by rules not work
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Speaker 1: at Yeah, but there you go, and they all laugh,
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Speaker 1: they all laugh. I can't comment on that till nine thirty,
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Speaker 1: even though we know exactly what the numbers are. Really,
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Speaker 1: So do the American people know what's going on right now? Yes?
10:37
Speaker 1: And don't blame it on COVID. You can't blame this
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Speaker 1: on COVID, CNBC. Santelli said, the American public knows what's
10:44
Speaker 1: going on. It's Biden inflation. Don't blame this on COVID.
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Speaker 1: You've made and done things policies that have made prices skyrocket.
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Speaker 1: You did this. This has nothing to do with COVID,
10:59
Speaker 1: because prices were low with COVID when Trump was the president.
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Speaker 1: It's American public knows, they know what's going on. You
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Speaker 1: know how many times a week or a month do
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Speaker 1: you fill your car up? You know how many times
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Speaker 1: do you get the bill for your kids at school,
11:13
Speaker 1: whether it's private or college. You know these prices. I
11:16
Speaker 1: just had a furnace go out. I was shocked. I
11:20
Speaker 1: was shocked at how much some of this stuff has
11:22
Speaker 1: gone up in the last couple of years. This is
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Speaker 1: a multi millionaire on CNBC saying he's shocked at how
11:28
Speaker 1: bad prices have gotten, how much stuff has gone up
11:31
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. That should tell you
11:33
Speaker 1: everything you want to you need to know. And people
11:36
Speaker 1: aren't buying this. You can't blame COVID forever for everything
11:39
Speaker 1: when you're the president. I taits American. By the way,
11:41
Speaker 1: when you ran, you actually said, you actually said that
11:47
Speaker 1: you were gonna fix it all. Ron Brownstein at CNN said, quote,
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Speaker 1: inflation is a very clear and present danger for all Democrats. Now,
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Speaker 1: I hope so I hope people get their heads other
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Speaker 1: ear end and realize just how bad things are. So
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Speaker 1: the question now becomes, what do we do in states
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Speaker 1: to fight back? How do we fight back against this
12:09
Speaker 1: insane spending that's going on. We had another stop gap
12:13
Speaker 1: bill filled with port Beryl's spending that took place where
12:16
Speaker 1: we won't have a government shut down, and there's tons
12:20
Speaker 1: of crap in there that have nothing to do with
12:22
Speaker 1: anything that's going to benefit you or me. Port Beryl
12:24
Speaker 1: spending their whoring out. The government right now is being
12:27
Speaker 1: hoard out by these old men and the Republican and
12:30
Speaker 1: the Democratic side who say, I'm not gonna have to
12:32
Speaker 1: pay for this disaster. I'll be dead when hell comes
12:38
Speaker 1: and when there's hell to pay for all of this.
12:40
Speaker 1: And they're just spending money because they know they'll be
12:43
Speaker 1: dead before they have to pay it back. How do
12:45
Speaker 1: we stop them? Joining me to talk about this, Like
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Speaker 1: I said, as former US Senator and former President kenned
12:51
Speaker 1: Rick Sentorium senator, we were talking this week a conversation
12:56
Speaker 1: that was started very organically about what's going on the
13:00
Speaker 1: Supreme Court and with abortion and what looks to be
13:04
Speaker 1: a significant victory for protecting life and I literally said
13:09
Speaker 1: to you. I was like, all right, tell me everything
13:10
Speaker 1: you're doing now, and you said, I'm working on something
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Speaker 1: and I'm working hard because I think there's a real
13:16
Speaker 1: chance that we can have victories when it comes to
13:19
Speaker 1: states being able to fight back against the government in
13:23
Speaker 1: DC and the extreme overreach is taking place. And you
13:26
Speaker 1: actually said we're very close. I said, all right, hold on,
13:29
Speaker 1: I gotta get you on the podcast because I wanted
13:31
Speaker 1: to talk to you about how this is working. So
13:35
Speaker 1: if you'll lay it out, and I say this, everybody listening,
13:38
Speaker 1: Number one, share this. If you get to hear this,
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Speaker 1: share it. Okay, share it with your family, Share it
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Speaker 1: with your friends. Grab a pencil and paper, and start
13:46
Speaker 1: taking notes right now because you're gonna want to otherwise
13:49
Speaker 1: you're gonna go, oh my gosh, I miss that. And
13:51
Speaker 1: good news as you can rewind and go back in
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Speaker 1: the podcast and listen again, but make sure you share this.
13:57
Speaker 1: So how did you even get involved in how did
13:59
Speaker 1: this get started? What you're doing now? Well, first off,
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Speaker 1: thanks Ben, thanks for the opportunity. And I'm excited about
14:07
Speaker 1: this because I think that everyone knows that Washington is broken.
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Speaker 1: Everyone knows that it has accumulated power. It is. The
14:21
Speaker 1: foundational structure of our government has been shifted over the
14:26
Speaker 1: past really a hundred years by the Supreme Court who
14:30
Speaker 1: has basically reinterpreted, as we see in ro versus Way,
14:34
Speaker 1: reinterpreted the Constitution to mean whatever it wants, and so
14:37
Speaker 1: doing has dramatically expanded the power of the federal government.
14:40
Speaker 1: You know, the commerce clause, for example, now means the
14:42
Speaker 1: federal government can basically do anything. And that's not the
14:46
Speaker 1: way our country was set up. That's not what made
14:48
Speaker 1: our country great. It's not how our federal federal system
14:52
Speaker 1: of government was designed to work and has worked so well.
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Speaker 1: And it's the reason we see the division in our
15:00
Speaker 1: because the federal government is now trying to make every
15:03
Speaker 1: American from someone living in rural Montana to someone living
15:07
Speaker 1: in New York City, played by the same rules. You've got,
15:10
Speaker 1: everything has to be the same. Everything's guided out of Washington,
15:13
Speaker 1: and our founders understood that people living in different places
15:16
Speaker 1: with different values, if we were going to live together,
15:19
Speaker 1: we had to have the freedom to live our lives
15:21
Speaker 1: the way we want to live in as much, you know,
15:23
Speaker 1: within certain broad structures, but to give flexibility between the
15:27
Speaker 1: states and between localities, you know, for differences, and that
15:32
Speaker 1: we could have certain shared values that unite us, but
15:35
Speaker 1: there would be other things that wouldn't. And that's why,
15:37
Speaker 1: for example, you see people moving from California to Texas
15:40
Speaker 1: or moving from New York to Florida because they they
15:44
Speaker 1: understand that there are differences, but the federal government, the left,
15:48
Speaker 1: the progressives over time have tried to minimize those difference
15:52
Speaker 1: and impose their values on the country. And so when
15:56
Speaker 1: people come to me and say, you know, what can
15:58
Speaker 1: we do about it? I say, well, you know, we
16:00
Speaker 1: need structural reform. We can't just you know, expect Washington
16:05
Speaker 1: and Congress when we happen to get power maybe again someday,
16:09
Speaker 1: to fix it. Because you know what, every time we've
16:11
Speaker 1: gotten power, we haven't fixed you know, Ronald Reagan was
16:13
Speaker 1: a great president. We had majorities in the House and Senate.
16:16
Speaker 1: We didn't fix it. You know, George W. Bush the
16:19
Speaker 1: same thing, had majority, we didn't fix it. Donald Trump,
16:21
Speaker 1: we didn't fix it. And when you're talking about fixing it,
16:25
Speaker 1: we're talking about basic things like for example, Republicans have
16:28
Speaker 1: run you've you've seen this when you were running right
16:31
Speaker 1: repeal Obamacare, we don't do it, or they say things
16:33
Speaker 1: like we need to balance budget amendment, and they never
16:36
Speaker 1: do it when they have the opportunity to do it.
16:38
Speaker 1: And now look at where our deficit is exactly, and
16:42
Speaker 1: look at where the concentration of power is. It's now
16:44
Speaker 1: almost all in the executive. The Congress is feckless, they
16:47
Speaker 1: can't do anything, and the courts simply, you know, step
16:51
Speaker 1: aside and let frankly, now both parties sort of get
16:55
Speaker 1: away with with doing whatever they want out of the
16:58
Speaker 1: out of the presidency. And here's why I came to
17:00
Speaker 1: this moment is when I and look, I supported every
17:04
Speaker 1: almost everything Donald Trump did. I mean, there are a
17:06
Speaker 1: couple of minor things, but by and large I thought
17:09
Speaker 1: he did a great job. But a lot of what
17:11
Speaker 1: he did he did out of the executive orders and
17:14
Speaker 1: rules and things, and and we cheered along and said, yeah,
17:19
Speaker 1: you know, let's do it. Let's stick it to them.
17:21
Speaker 1: And we said, well, wait a minute, you know, the
17:23
Speaker 1: constitution doesn't allow him to do some of this these things.
17:26
Speaker 1: And we're now of the have gone I think almost
17:30
Speaker 1: as bad as the other side, which is, if we
17:32
Speaker 1: get power, we're going to force our agenda and we're
17:34
Speaker 1: going to ignore the Constitution and let the president do everything.
17:38
Speaker 1: That's just not a good idea. And well, and it
17:42
Speaker 1: also president, as you know, is everything. If you do something,
17:46
Speaker 1: then the other side feels validated in doing it again,
17:49
Speaker 1: and then you fast forward ten years and it's totally
17:52
Speaker 1: out of control. It's the same conversation that we were
17:55
Speaker 1: having about court packing recently, where are like, well, fine,
17:58
Speaker 1: if they packed the court, referring to when we'll just
18:00
Speaker 1: pack the court back again, and then before you know,
18:03
Speaker 1: we got fifty Supreme Court justices. Yeah, wrong, and and
18:07
Speaker 1: so so the question is structural, how do we do it?
18:10
Speaker 1: And and and here's the here's the great thing to
18:13
Speaker 1: the constitutionalists out there, people who love our constitution. The
18:17
Speaker 1: constitution provides a way for us to fix this. And
18:21
Speaker 1: people say, oh, I love the Constrent, I love you know,
18:22
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment, the First Amendment. Uh, well you also
18:26
Speaker 1: should love Article five because Article five was in the
18:29
Speaker 1: original constitutions, not an amendment. It's part of the original Constitution.
18:33
Speaker 1: And it's a it's a provision that says, here's how
18:36
Speaker 1: we can amend the Constitution going forward. And and and
18:40
Speaker 1: there's two ways. One is the way it's always been done,
18:43
Speaker 1: which and by the way, let me hit pause itive
18:44
Speaker 1: real quick, because you may have heard a lot about
18:47
Speaker 1: Article five if you listen to our good friend Mark Levin.
18:50
Speaker 1: He has been talking about this for eight for I
18:53
Speaker 1: would say decades, and there are so many people in
18:56
Speaker 1: politics that said, no, no no, no, I'm not going to
18:58
Speaker 1: have to waste my time legal and waste my time
19:01
Speaker 1: with you article five. I'm just going to win an election,
19:04
Speaker 1: get elected, and then and then basically do nothing, which
19:07
Speaker 1: is what you were just referencing. And the reason why
19:10
Speaker 1: Article five, I think now is so important that people
19:12
Speaker 1: are paying attention to it is that we're starting to
19:15
Speaker 1: see that the only way conservatives are winning on government
19:18
Speaker 1: overreach when it comes to COVID nineteen and these mandates
19:22
Speaker 1: and forcing people to get a vaccine, to keep their
19:26
Speaker 1: job and to do certain things, and I call it
19:29
Speaker 1: COVID racism. We are witnessing with this administration COVID racism
19:32
Speaker 1: where they're trying to make two set different sectors of society,
19:36
Speaker 1: two different classes of citizens. And the only way that
19:39
Speaker 1: we're winning right now is through actually fighting in the
19:43
Speaker 1: legal system with the constitution, which goes back to the
19:46
Speaker 1: point that I think you're about to make, which is,
19:48
Speaker 1: forget screwing around in essence with politics for a moment.
19:51
Speaker 1: We can totally fundamentally get the game change back to
19:55
Speaker 1: what it was supposed to be. We're not We're not
19:57
Speaker 1: changing something moving forward, just going back to order. Found
19:59
Speaker 1: their wanted and the abuses that have happened over the
20:03
Speaker 1: last decade after decade after decade, getting away from the
20:06
Speaker 1: Constitution by specifically focusing on Article five. Yeah, using the
20:11
Speaker 1: constitutional remedy that the founders put in place to fix
20:16
Speaker 1: what they thought was going to happen someday. And I
20:19
Speaker 1: mentioned the first way to amend the Constitution was for
20:21
Speaker 1: Congress to do it. But they realized that at some
20:24
Speaker 1: point the federal government was going to get out of control.
20:26
Speaker 1: And because it happens in every society, there is the
20:29
Speaker 1: concentration of power. People who are in power seek more power,
20:33
Speaker 1: and that's what's happened. And so they provided a second mechanism,
20:37
Speaker 1: and that's for the state legislatures to ament to propose
20:42
Speaker 1: a Convention of the States, to propose amendments to be
20:48
Speaker 1: sent to the states for ratifications. So let me just
20:50
Speaker 1: sort of walk that back. So the provision in the
20:52
Speaker 1: Constitution says that if two thirds of the states, in
20:56
Speaker 1: this case thirty four states, legislatures governors have nothing to
20:59
Speaker 1: do with this. If the legislatures in thirty four states
21:03
Speaker 1: pass a resolution, that all of them are the same,
21:06
Speaker 1: so it's the same resolution. Pass a resolution to call
21:09
Speaker 1: for a Convention of the States, then automatically it is called.
21:14
Speaker 1: Congress has to certify it. But the thirty four states
21:17
Speaker 1: did it, but they have no role in it other
21:19
Speaker 1: than that. So thirty four states have to pass it. Now,
21:23
Speaker 1: what is the Convention of the States resolution we're proposing.
21:26
Speaker 1: We're proposing three things that there'd be a convention held
21:31
Speaker 1: with all fifty states participating. And by the way, the
21:35
Speaker 1: states participating would be appointed by the state legislature. Every
21:38
Speaker 1: stake gets one vote, so California doesn't get anymore votes.
21:42
Speaker 1: In Alaska, every stake gets one vote. And the purpose
21:47
Speaker 1: of the convention is to propose amendments that cover three areas.
21:51
Speaker 1: Number one, and I think this is the most important
21:54
Speaker 1: to limit the power of the federal government. All right, Rick,
21:59
Speaker 1: I want to go back to what you were saying
22:01
Speaker 1: a moment ago. I want to go over these three
22:03
Speaker 1: different ways that we can use Article five that you
22:06
Speaker 1: just started in. Let's start all over article five. What
22:10
Speaker 1: are the three things that you're trying to accomplish to
22:13
Speaker 1: actually get this done. So the resolution that we are
22:17
Speaker 1: asking state legislatures to adopt, and fifteen states have adopted
22:21
Speaker 1: them so far. We need thirty four. But the resolution
22:25
Speaker 1: calls for three types of amendments that will be in order,
22:28
Speaker 1: in other words, to be able to be proposed at
22:32
Speaker 1: at the Convention of the States that will be called
22:34
Speaker 1: if we get thirty four states to pass this resolution.
22:37
Speaker 1: One is to limit the power of the federal government.
22:41
Speaker 1: I think it's the most important because what it says
22:43
Speaker 1: is that we can pass amendments that return the power
22:49
Speaker 1: to the states and to the people that has been
22:52
Speaker 1: now userved by the federal government. For example, education, it
22:56
Speaker 1: is very clear from the Constitution that education is a
22:58
Speaker 1: state and local function, but the federal government through that
23:01
Speaker 1: through you know, the commerce clause or whatever clause the
23:04
Speaker 1: Screenport figured out, decided note we can let the federal
23:07
Speaker 1: government legislated mandate and tell everybody how to run their schools.
23:11
Speaker 1: We can pass an amendment or propose amendment that these
23:13
Speaker 1: states could ratify that says the federal governments to spend
23:16
Speaker 1: no money on primary second education, or can spend no
23:19
Speaker 1: money on higher education. Think of what what how how
23:23
Speaker 1: higher education has been corrupted because the federal government just
23:28
Speaker 1: funnels billions and billions of dollars in there uh to
23:31
Speaker 1: and to to prop up what is the ballwork the
23:35
Speaker 1: think tank for the left wing in the United States
23:37
Speaker 1: of America. So that's one example, but there's a whole
23:40
Speaker 1: host of other areas where the federal government has intruded
23:44
Speaker 1: on state and local authority and on individual rights that
23:47
Speaker 1: you could propose amendments to limit that authority. So that's
23:49
Speaker 1: number one. Number two and this is one that's been
23:51
Speaker 1: around for a long time, to limit the spending power
23:53
Speaker 1: of Washington. Other words of balance. So I really, I
23:57
Speaker 1: really want to dive into that for a second because
23:58
Speaker 1: number two is I think, actually for my kid's future
24:03
Speaker 1: and the future of this country, and where it's just
24:07
Speaker 1: seeing that you have being honest, it's a it's a
24:12
Speaker 1: Joe's Basically, they're saying, we'll do whatever the hell we
24:14
Speaker 1: want to do and spend as much money as we
24:16
Speaker 1: want to spend to stay in power, and because we
24:19
Speaker 1: don't have to pay for this because we're gonna die
24:21
Speaker 1: before that. You know what hits the fan the fact
24:26
Speaker 1: that we've gone from spending billions to hundreds of billions
24:30
Speaker 1: to now trillions of dollars of money that we don't have,
24:33
Speaker 1: paying hundreds of billions of dollars in debt on the
24:36
Speaker 1: debt that we're borrowing, and giving places like China the
24:40
Speaker 1: power over us because of our debt load. Should scare
24:44
Speaker 1: the hell out of everybody. Unfortunately, doesn't seem to rick
24:48
Speaker 1: because the word trillion, it is impossible to get your
24:52
Speaker 1: head around how much money that actually is exactly exactly, Yeah,
24:56
Speaker 1: And so this provides an opportunity to put a balanced
25:00
Speaker 1: budget amendment before the states. Are tax limitation amendments, you know,
25:05
Speaker 1: only certain levels of taxation spending limitation. So any type
25:09
Speaker 1: of amendment that would would constrain the spending of the
25:12
Speaker 1: federal government would be in order to be proposed for
25:15
Speaker 1: ratification to the states. And the third is a term
25:19
Speaker 1: limit amendment. Now, most of the term amendents you've heard
25:21
Speaker 1: of as a term limits on members of Congress. I'm
25:24
Speaker 1: someone ambivalent about that. There's some good sides and bad
25:27
Speaker 1: sides of it. But this is not just term limits
25:30
Speaker 1: of members of Congress, it's term limits of all federal
25:32
Speaker 1: efficial So what does that mean. That means potentially justice,
25:36
Speaker 1: this is free court or judges, and it also means
25:39
Speaker 1: the deep state. You can actually, we can actually propose
25:42
Speaker 1: amendments that actually could limit the amount of tenure of
25:47
Speaker 1: the deputy assistant Secretary of State or or you know,
25:51
Speaker 1: somebody somebody deep within the bowels that we know has
25:54
Speaker 1: been there and will be there, you know, for ten
25:58
Speaker 1: presidents and doesn't pay any attention to what the president
26:01
Speaker 1: once does what they want to do and has their
26:04
Speaker 1: own agenda. And so having the ability to attack the
26:08
Speaker 1: deep state by limiting terms of executive branch officers, not
26:13
Speaker 1: just Congress and judges, I think is a very important
26:18
Speaker 1: part of reforming Washington, DC. You mentioned, you mentioned these things,
26:22
Speaker 1: and let's just look at applying them today. You know,
26:25
Speaker 1: the House Republicans are divided on the purpose of a
26:28
Speaker 1: vaccination database bill, and the question was asked, which is it?
26:33
Speaker 1: Burgess asked us, will this ensure that information remains confidential
26:37
Speaker 1: and kept private. Many believe this is a complete government overreach.
26:41
Speaker 1: It's a violation of you know, of your medical records.
26:45
Speaker 1: By the federal government. This is a perfect example of
26:49
Speaker 1: what you could reign in if we accomplish what you're
26:51
Speaker 1: talking about, the same thing where the Senate Republicans just
26:54
Speaker 1: cave to help pass a you know, the stop gap
26:57
Speaker 1: funding to avoid a government shutdown, which is just filled
27:00
Speaker 1: with insane amounts of spending. I mean, it grants seven
27:04
Speaker 1: billion in funding for the resettlement of Afghan refugees, for example,
27:08
Speaker 1: but money's not going directly to Americans and citizens that
27:12
Speaker 1: were hurt because of the COVID lockdowns. It makes no sense. Well,
27:16
Speaker 1: I mean all of these things. I mean, obviously they've
27:18
Speaker 1: got a lot of current issues, but you know what
27:21
Speaker 1: this will get at is just limiting the power, the scope,
27:26
Speaker 1: and the concentration of power in individuals in Washington. All
27:30
Speaker 1: of these are problems that are reflected by some of
27:33
Speaker 1: the examples that you're giving right now. So those are
27:36
Speaker 1: the three things that this resolution would call for. And again,
27:40
Speaker 1: the process how that would work is we get thirty
27:44
Speaker 1: four states. You say, wow, thirty four states, you only
27:46
Speaker 1: have fifteen, you have nineteen states to go. Here's here's
27:49
Speaker 1: the interesting thing that most people don't realize. Thirty one
27:54
Speaker 1: of the fifty state legislatures are now controlled by Republicans
27:58
Speaker 1: in two states are divided. Minnesota and Virginia have one
28:03
Speaker 1: House Republican, one House Democrat, which we have very confident
28:07
Speaker 1: given the twenty two twenty two elections coming up in
28:10
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three if in the case of Virginia,
28:12
Speaker 1: we have a lot of confidence that we're going to
28:14
Speaker 1: flip both of those states, so we'll be at thirty three,
28:17
Speaker 1: will be one state short of the thirty four we need.
28:21
Speaker 1: And we have several states everywhere from Washington to Maine.
28:25
Speaker 1: Those are two of them that if we could flip
28:28
Speaker 1: one of about four or five states that are actually
28:29
Speaker 1: fairly close right now, closely divided in an election year
28:33
Speaker 1: which looks to be a landslide type of election for Republicans,
28:36
Speaker 1: we can get the thirty four thirty five states and
28:40
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, if every Republican legislator in
28:44
Speaker 1: those states votes to support this. And by the way,
28:47
Speaker 1: every progressive group is vehemently against this, George Soros vehemently
28:52
Speaker 1: against it, every left wing group is against it, every
28:55
Speaker 1: conservative group is for this. So there's no reason for
28:59
Speaker 1: any Republican moderate to conservative not to support restoring federalism,
29:04
Speaker 1: not to support limiting the power of the federal government
29:08
Speaker 1: over the individuals and try to make everybody conform to
29:11
Speaker 1: what Washington believes as best for everybody. So if we
29:16
Speaker 1: can get to thirty four, which I think we can
29:18
Speaker 1: either next year or the year after, then all of
29:21
Speaker 1: a sudden, the safety on the gun is off and
29:23
Speaker 1: we can fire and get this thing done. Not ten
29:28
Speaker 1: years from now, but in a year or two. We
29:30
Speaker 1: can actually get a convention of the States called under
29:34
Speaker 1: these under this resolution that allows for these types of amendments,
29:38
Speaker 1: have a convention, and let's have a real great national
29:42
Speaker 1: debate as to what we want for the future of
29:45
Speaker 1: our country to the power to be invested in Washington
29:49
Speaker 1: and the power to be invested states, localities, and individuals.
29:52
Speaker 1: All right, let me play pessimist here because I just
29:54
Speaker 1: don't trust Republicans for good reasons that are in power.
29:59
Speaker 1: Why would somebody in the legislature in these states and
30:04
Speaker 1: why what would be their logic or their reasoning for
30:06
Speaker 1: fighting against this, Because you know there's Republicans they have
30:10
Speaker 1: either they have you know, the dream of serving in
30:13
Speaker 1: Congress where they wouldn't want to be quote term limited
30:15
Speaker 1: or not be able to do their port rail spending
30:17
Speaker 1: to hook up their buddies. I mean, Republicans sucked just
30:20
Speaker 1: as much as Democrats do many times. I know hardcore
30:22
Speaker 1: conservatives are in favor of this, but but you know,
30:25
Speaker 1: there's going to be some pushback. So what are their
30:28
Speaker 1: arguments going to be and how do we prepare for
30:29
Speaker 1: those on the front end. Yeah, the arguments that I've
30:33
Speaker 1: heard so far against them is actually it's interesting, almost
30:37
Speaker 1: all the arguments that are used are arguments that were
30:39
Speaker 1: put forward in a law review article opposing this, this
30:45
Speaker 1: Convention of the States, I think about twenty years at
30:48
Speaker 1: the moment, it was maybe as ten years ago. That
30:51
Speaker 1: was put together by and you see these arguments and
30:55
Speaker 1: I and I pull out this law review article and say, oh,
30:57
Speaker 1: by the way, you know who made this argument initially
31:00
Speaker 1: Larry Tribe. Now you know who Larry Tribe is. Lawrence
31:03
Speaker 1: Tribe is an is a progressive law professor who's who's
31:08
Speaker 1: been one of the great you know, uh, you know,
31:10
Speaker 1: thorns in the sides of of conservatives for for probably
31:14
Speaker 1: forty years. And so every argument are the arguments the
31:18
Speaker 1: left makes about it, and for some reason we adopt
31:21
Speaker 1: and the other person who's come out and did and
31:23
Speaker 1: did a long treatise on this was believe or not
31:26
Speaker 1: Justice Warren Burger. Now, most of the people who you
31:30
Speaker 1: you are listening to the show, don't know who Justice
31:32
Speaker 1: Warren Burger is. But Justice Warren Burger was the chief
31:35
Speaker 1: Justice of the Supreme Court and was and voted with
31:39
Speaker 1: the majority and Row versus Wade. And so this this
31:43
Speaker 1: is who conservatives are using to say, Oh, look at
31:46
Speaker 1: what these people say could happen, and and the reality
31:49
Speaker 1: is the things that they're saying. One is that oh well,
31:52
Speaker 1: once once the convention is called, all these were opening
31:56
Speaker 1: up everything that constant that you know, we could have
31:59
Speaker 1: a runaway can mention and all these terrible ideas could
32:01
Speaker 1: be put forward. Well, Number one, that there's law. It's
32:06
Speaker 1: called the Article five, has court cases and history both
32:12
Speaker 1: as states and even before that when we were colonies.
32:14
Speaker 1: How conventions of States operate and they are operated under
32:19
Speaker 1: the rules of the resolution that calls it. And so
32:22
Speaker 1: these are all three of the points that I talked
32:25
Speaker 1: about before. Limit the power of the federal government. So
32:29
Speaker 1: no amendment that expands the power of the federal government
32:32
Speaker 1: would be in order. Number one. But even if let's
32:34
Speaker 1: say a convention called by the way, when thirty four
32:38
Speaker 1: states are controlled by Republicans, and those thirty four states
32:41
Speaker 1: are appointing delegates to that convention. So again, I mean,
32:45
Speaker 1: you've got a super majority of Republican legislators who are
32:48
Speaker 1: going to be the delegates at this convention. But assuming
32:51
Speaker 1: they you know, go crazy and they you know, you know,
32:54
Speaker 1: disseminate drugs there, and something crazy happens and they ignore
32:58
Speaker 1: the law of the Article five and they pass some
33:03
Speaker 1: crazy amendment, it still has to go to the states
33:06
Speaker 1: and be ratified by thirty eight state legislatures, again, thirty
33:10
Speaker 1: four of which are controlled by Republicans. So the idea
33:13
Speaker 1: that this is going to be a runaway convention is
33:15
Speaker 1: just folly. I mean, the reality is that there is
33:19
Speaker 1: an appetite in this country to constrain the power of
33:22
Speaker 1: the federal government, and we are providing the only mechanism
33:26
Speaker 1: that could in fact do that. And Rick, you go
33:31
Speaker 1: through this game plan of how to take back our
33:35
Speaker 1: power and from a state's perspective, takeaway power from the executive,
33:39
Speaker 1: takeaway power from Washington, be able to do things like
33:43
Speaker 1: get our country spending under control. And there's two questions. One,
33:49
Speaker 1: no matter where you're listening right now, what do you
33:53
Speaker 1: need to do now? How do you get this playbook?
33:55
Speaker 1: Where do you get the guidance that you're describing. Let's
33:59
Speaker 1: deal with that one first, and I want to deal
34:01
Speaker 1: with the how do you fight back against Republicans are
34:02
Speaker 1: probably gonna do anything they can to try to screw
34:04
Speaker 1: this up. Go ahead first with how do we find
34:06
Speaker 1: out more? How do we get more information? How do
34:08
Speaker 1: we start working on this. It's called Convention of States
34:12
Speaker 1: dot com. That's the that's the website. You go to
34:15
Speaker 1: Convention State dot com or US on Facebook, your rumble
34:19
Speaker 1: LinkedIn everybody, I mean, all these all the social media
34:22
Speaker 1: sites were on. So it's Convention of States dot com
34:27
Speaker 1: and you can you can sign up to volunteer. There's
34:29
Speaker 1: all sorts of information you can dig into, all of
34:31
Speaker 1: the great details, get all the questions answered that uh
34:34
Speaker 1: that that you're going to be confronted with by folks
34:37
Speaker 1: who are skeptics. Look, you know, I was, I was
34:39
Speaker 1: a congressman, I was a senator. Lots of people brought
34:42
Speaker 1: really big, great ideas, and the initial thing, if it's
34:45
Speaker 1: a big idea, I'm really skeptical that has any chance
34:47
Speaker 1: of passing. But I think we're in a unique moment
34:50
Speaker 1: in history right now. We're in a unique moment where
34:52
Speaker 1: we have It's a really interesting thing. Even though the
34:54
Speaker 1: country is very deeply divided when it comes to state legislatures,
34:58
Speaker 1: Republicans are actually a approaching supermajority control, which means we
35:02
Speaker 1: can do things that you know, our constitution was set
35:05
Speaker 1: up for supermajorities to make make decisions. We're actually in
35:08
Speaker 1: a position way because we have on the preciss of
35:11
Speaker 1: being a supermajority to actually start this process. And so
35:15
Speaker 1: what that means is people have to get you know,
35:17
Speaker 1: go to Conventional States dot com, sign up and get
35:20
Speaker 1: active in your state. Every state their fifteen states have
35:23
Speaker 1: passed it. But even those states are active. Why because
35:26
Speaker 1: the people in Texas, for example, which has already passed this,
35:29
Speaker 1: or Florida, which has already passed this, actually make calls
35:32
Speaker 1: into the states that haven't and do work that help
35:35
Speaker 1: help the other states that are in the process of passing,
35:37
Speaker 1: like Wisconsin, which we expect to vote in January February.
35:42
Speaker 1: North Carolina, another state that's passed one house, is waiting
35:45
Speaker 1: for the other House to pass Iowa, another state, Pennsylvania.
35:49
Speaker 1: I can go down the list. I mean, there's there's
35:51
Speaker 1: a lot of states that right now that one house
35:53
Speaker 1: has passed or both, they're considering very seriously of doing something.
35:57
Speaker 1: That is Nebraska another one And this gave is great
36:00
Speaker 1: because there's only one house in the Bransco. So there's
36:03
Speaker 1: no there's not two bodies, there's only one. And so
36:06
Speaker 1: those are the states that are I guess teed up
36:09
Speaker 1: for next year. So we can get a few more states,
36:13
Speaker 1: you know, in line before the twenty twenty two elections.
36:16
Speaker 1: And then the second thing is you can get involved politically.
36:20
Speaker 1: We're going to be working hard in a handful of
36:22
Speaker 1: states to flip state legislatures so we can get in
36:25
Speaker 1: we can get into position to get to that thirty
36:28
Speaker 1: four in the next couple of years. Wow. All right,
36:32
Speaker 1: so there's a real chance of this. That's part of
36:34
Speaker 1: the reason why you're spending. Yeah, there are five Convention
36:37
Speaker 1: of the States has five million people, five million people
36:41
Speaker 1: who have who have who support this cause. And literally
36:44
Speaker 1: we have volunteers who are designated who are captains in
36:47
Speaker 1: every state legislative district in America. Everyone. We have people
36:52
Speaker 1: who are working in the in those areas. So this
36:54
Speaker 1: is a I was surprised at the length at the
36:57
Speaker 1: strength of this organization. There's like some paid, full and
37:01
Speaker 1: part time people in the organization. We're all over the
37:04
Speaker 1: place every single day in American I'm not exaggerating this.
37:08
Speaker 1: Every single day in America, we're doing an event. I mean,
37:10
Speaker 1: this is this is a This is the conservative grassroots
37:14
Speaker 1: premier grassroots conservative organization in the country where they are.
37:18
Speaker 1: They are on fire because they see the potential of this.
37:21
Speaker 1: They have a lot of people, as I think you,
37:24
Speaker 1: and I was one of them, who was feeling somewhat
37:27
Speaker 1: helpless that we could ever steer this ship and turn
37:29
Speaker 1: it around. And this is the mechanism to do it.
37:32
Speaker 1: And look, I'm as skeptical as anybody you'll find in
37:34
Speaker 1: politics about these things, but to me, this I see
37:38
Speaker 1: a path. All right. Now, you know the question I'm
37:42
Speaker 1: going to ask you. Republicans in Congress are going to
37:46
Speaker 1: probably fight this and tell you every reason why you
37:48
Speaker 1: shouldn't support it, mainly because they're going to be terrified
37:53
Speaker 1: that they're gonna lose their jobs over this exact. It's
37:55
Speaker 1: the it's the old bulls it's it's the folks who've
37:58
Speaker 1: been around a long long time who who think this,
38:01
Speaker 1: you know, we can't let those states, you know, tell
38:05
Speaker 1: us you know what we can and can't do. This
38:07
Speaker 1: is a threat to Washington. I mean, this is a
38:10
Speaker 1: serious threat. And I can tell you that there are
38:12
Speaker 1: folks in Washington and certainly in the Democratic side, all
38:14
Speaker 1: of them, but even some on the Republican side who
38:17
Speaker 1: are because I was just at ALEC, which is the
38:20
Speaker 1: American Legislative Exchange Council, which is the conservative state legislators, uh,
38:24
Speaker 1: you know national group. Uh. And so I just met
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Speaker 1: yesterday in San Diego with with hundreds of state legislators
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Speaker 1: and you know, some of them walking say, you know,
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Speaker 1: my senator doesn't support this. I said, yeah, Jay, I'm
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Speaker 1: not surprised. And that's a Republican senator. Uh and and
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Speaker 1: and and I said, well, we're you so I disagree
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Speaker 1: with them. I said, well great, I said, you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, and it's not just because a term limits,
38:48
Speaker 1: it's it's because of power. It's because they want to
38:51
Speaker 1: be able to spend, they want to be able to
38:53
Speaker 1: get involved in every aspect of your life. Even as
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Speaker 1: a Republican that's the sad part. We've sort of we've
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Speaker 1: sort of lost our bearings in Washington, DC. And that's
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Speaker 1: why the founders gave the authority of the states people
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Speaker 1: closer to the people to make this decision and to
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Speaker 1: curb this power. It's incredible. Senator. Lastly, again one more time.
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Speaker 1: If people want to go to the website, they want
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Speaker 1: to get involved, they want to do this in their state,
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Speaker 1: where do they go. Convention of States dot com is
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Speaker 1: the website. You can go sign up. Let me assure
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Speaker 1: you one of the things I will guarantee you we
39:29
Speaker 1: will be in touch. I mean, they are really The
39:33
Speaker 1: team is terrific. It's it's large, and it's growing, and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, one of the one of the things that's
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Speaker 1: great about this is that people see a path now,
39:42
Speaker 1: there's a runaway to get this done, and there's just
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Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of exciting right now. We're being able
39:47
Speaker 1: to frankly, we're doing we're being very successful in raising
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Speaker 1: money right now, and we're building the organization out so
39:54
Speaker 1: so joined be a partisan. And by the way, the
39:56
Speaker 1: great thing about this organization is we just don't do
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Speaker 1: Convention the States, particularly in states that have already passed it.
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Speaker 1: These are these people. These these folks are out there
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Speaker 1: in the grassroots. Are the ones who are involved in
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Speaker 1: the school board elections, the fight's transgender policies, and CRT.
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Speaker 1: They're the ones who are out there, you know, working
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Speaker 1: in Virginia. We had literally hundreds of people here in
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Speaker 1: Virginia to not just to help Glenn Young can get elected,
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Speaker 1: but to win the delegate races. We picked up the
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Speaker 1: House of Delegates here in Virginia and and Convention of
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Speaker 1: the States. Not the nonprofit side, but we have a
40:29
Speaker 1: political arm that that did a lot of the work
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Speaker 1: that helped that help that be become a reality. It's
40:35
Speaker 1: great work. We'll have you back, I'm sure very soon
40:38
Speaker 1: with updates Former Senator Rick Santor and former President You
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Speaker 1: can thank you, sir. Always a pleasure chat with you,
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Speaker 1: and we'll do it again soon, my pleasure of friend,
40:46
Speaker 1: God bless all Right, we'll take a break, we'll come back.
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40:51
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