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Care Journey | A Discipleship Pathway For A Caring Community · Neighbourly: Real Stories of Care and Community

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Imagine the whole church discovering their passion to care,
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one small group at a time.
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You're listening to this special podcast series, Care
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Journey from the Journey with Care podcast.
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Whether it was a mega church or a little micro church
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that people desired to care and there was a
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willpower to care. But sometimes there was a barrier
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to actually knocking on that door, responding to the
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needs in a way that would be relational.
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What if you were part of a community that's not just aware of the needs
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around them, but actively responds with compassion, empathy
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and practical support? Over the next five weeks, we're going to
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dive deep into the world of care journey. It's a transformative
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five week discipleship course designed for small groups. So if you're
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ready to embark on a journey of growth, compassion and meaningful service
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from a biblical perspective, join us for this podcast series. We're
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excited to talk about it, but before we get more into that, and I
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hand it off to Wendy, let me remind you that we have journey with prayer.
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It's a five minute devotional series to start off your week on Monday.
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It's on a separate podcast feed. You can find it right now on your favorite
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podcast player or head over to Journeywithcare CA. We're able
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to continue to produce great content because of the generosity of our
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listeners, donors and sponsors. If you want to help the podcast and the work of
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help the podcast as well. You can find that in the show notes as well.
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Or go to Journeywithcare CA to find out how to get involved. So,
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Wendy, we've been getting a lot of churches asking about this care journey and
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signing up for a wedding list to get a hold of it in their hands,
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to do it with their small groups. So we wanted to give a little bit
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of an introduction on the podcast to talk about what it's all
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about, why we're doing it, just so that they have a little bit of information
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before they ask about it. So you want to maybe give us a little bit
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of history of how this all came to be? Yeah, no, I'd love to.
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Johan. It's been about five years ago that we
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introduced Canada, and we had a big party, a
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launch about the care portal, bringing it into Canada, and we've been
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canadianizing it. Which care portal, for those of you who are
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new to care impact, is a care sharing technology that that
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connects people in the community, particularly where we're focusing
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on equipping the church to respond to community needs. And how
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do we know those needs? How are they coming through the care sharing
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technology we call care portal? It's because we're building
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bridges with social services and frontline providers.
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They know where the needs of children and families are the most vulnerable.
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They're hidden in plain sight for us, however, with
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partnership with these organizations, they're able to, those social workers
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are able to put needs into the platform, and
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participating churches and community members and businesses are able to
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respond in appropriate ways. And so we're excited about that.
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But over five years, Johann, we've also learned some things. We've learned
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how canadian churches are doing. We have been listening to
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pastors and leaders, we have been sitting with people in the community,
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and we've been listening from the Pew what congregations
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are saying. How is the technology working? One good news
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I have is that care portal is a technology that is working.
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It is actually seeing children and families being served in very effective
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ways. But I'd be amiss to say that a technology
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would solve the social challenges and the barriers that
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we find in community. And so that is where I. We
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actually, last year we sat down with pastors and leaders
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and people within the churches for qualitative study, and we said,
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how are your churches growing? What are the challenges? What are the pain points that
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you're experiencing? You're utilizing this technology, but what is working,
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what isn't working, and how can we help activate the
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whole church? Because here's the thing that we were seeing over and
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over again, whether it was a mega church or a little micro
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church, that people desired to care
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and there was a willpower to care, but sometimes there
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was a barrier to actually knocking on that door,
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responding to the needs in a way that would be relational.
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What we often found was that there would be one or two
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people that really drove this for their church.
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But our desire is to see the whole church care. And
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so we sat down and tried to dig a little
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deeper. And for our listeners that have been with us for
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any amount of time, especially this summer, we just, we did a series called
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Summer Speedos, just kind of a little fun name, but we
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shared some of those care portal stories and the impact that they're really
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having on the community and that mutual transformation that we've talked about all the
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time, how doing the care portal and helping those in the
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community really is mutually transformative. And we talk about
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careport all the time. So here's a great opportunity for our listeners to
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go a little bit deeper into what we're talking about when we keep bringing up
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this care portal thing. So, yeah, and one thing, we've had a lot of
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inquiries across Canada. Our vision is for national expansion
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of the care portal technology. There's actually a demand for it.
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Many different cities are asking more questions, and.
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And really, that is the way forward. And how Canadians can
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communicate is through technology. And obviously, it's just a
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tool that can drive social action
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and drive relationships and connection, because otherwise, Canadians
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aren't going to know where the needs are. I used to work in social services
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and overseeing a community center, and the amount of our
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families, they were getting, like, five, six frozen turkeys. And I'm like, there's got to
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be a different way. Because they don't need frozen turkeys. They're
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vegetarian. They actually need a friend. They need a
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mentor. They need help with taking to a medical appointment,
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or they need help with some basic needs, steel toe
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boots so that his dad can get a job. And so that's really where
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the inquiries are coming. They're like, we need technology, too, to help
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drive social action, help us care better for our
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communities with people that are hidden in plain sight. So
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we have a lot of need, but we're still faced with a challenge. A
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technology does not change the heart of the church.
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We often have some old patterns of philanthropy
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where we. We want to do projects. We want to care
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in massive ways or in a kind of a one size fits
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all ways. But every situation that we've seen on the care portal is
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unique. There may be some commonalities here of youth aging
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out, needing a support system, of families
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needing some very basic needs, like beds or cribs, so that
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they can be reunified. But each family is so unique.
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And what we really carry in our heart as care impact
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is saying, how can we help? Not only how many children and
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families can we help, but how can we help the church grow?
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How can we activate the church so it doesn't become a project,
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a shoebox drive, but that it becomes transformative,
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mutually transformative. And we realize that
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we want to continue with the technology, we want to expand the technology.
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But when we sat down with our experts of the church,
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the pastors, the leaders, the people that are part of the church, and we asked
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them, what's working? What are your challenges? Where are the things? What is your
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vision for the church? Whether it was megachurch or micro
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church, they were saying a lot of the same things. We desire.
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We need our church discipled. We need to get out of this
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culture shift of coming, showing up for Sunday mornings, and
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having professional christians. You want us to help the community? Yeah,
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we want to help too. It's in our mission statement. It's a mandate of
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the church. But we can't even get people into
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volunteer for our kids program, and now we're supposed to do
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that. We understand that. But it was actually adding more fuel to a
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frustration they were already feeling. And we just
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really wanted to come alongside and listen to these
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churches, these leaders, and say, well, what if we created a
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resource that would be supportive of your goal for
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discipleship? So the care journey. Actually, yes,
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we're training churches to utilize the care portal, but
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there's a huge discipleship piece that can be peer to peer
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led and that they can work together. Listening to God. What is God
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telling us? And who has God created me to be? What are
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the things I need to be paying attention to that God is grabbing ahold
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of me? And how do I respond? And how do we
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respond? Because it's not just about the expansion of care
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portal and we're not just handing it out to anybody that wants it. And
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it's not just about fulfilling people's needs in the community. It
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really is about learning to be the hands and feet of
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Jesus. Because, like a church can send an Amazon card to a
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family and fulfill a need, but that's not going to cause any transformation.
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That's not going to cause any connection. Because as I say, care portal
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connection changes everything. And we really believe
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that connecting with people's hearts and seeing the faces of those that
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we're serving and being the hands and feet of Jesus, we want to get
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close. We don't want to be the saviors. We want to be the
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hands and feet of Jesus. We want to be more like him. We want to
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be discipled, and we want the church to reflect the heart
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of Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. And the care journey really
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is good news for all. It's good news
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for those who are receiving care and
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timely supports. But let's not miss the fact that it's
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good news for the church as well. In Matthew 25, when
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did we see you naked? And when did we see you in prison? When did
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we see you hungry? When we serve others, we
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actually are experiencing Christ in the community
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in how we, we are treating people with dignity
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and experiencing God in new and fresh and
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needed ways within the church. When I ask a
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congregation, do you want more of Jesus? Of course
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hands will go up and say, yes, we want more of Jesus. That's why we're
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worshiping. That's why we're here this morning. That's why we hunger and thirst
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after the righteousness of God. And that's why we're listening to the word of
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God. But my challenge for Canada is if you want more of
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Jesus, yes, continue to seek that place of worship. But
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we sometimes are seeking the wrong places. And we actually need
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those in the community that are going through suffering, those that are
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oppressed and marginalized and going through difficulties to
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experience Christ, because that's where Christ is. And
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we need to be learning together and mutually
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transformed in community. And that's not going to happen just on a Sunday
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morning in a pew, listening to something amazing from the pew.
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We need to figure out how does care portal help
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transform the church? And that's actually what we've been looking at. Can we track
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growth and vitality within church when people care?
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What's that doing to the congregation? And what is the desire
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of the church? It is to grow. It is to see disciples within
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their congregation. It's not just the pastor, that one person
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going out and doing good service, but people, the
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congregation becomes alive when they get involved
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in these service opportunities. Now, we're not going to have
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a super long episode here, but we do want to get into what some of
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these sessions could look like. We've already had a few churches
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take the care journey and we've had some great feedback so far.
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Again, it's not just about head knowledge, like becoming the hands of
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feet of Jesus. There needs to be a contemplative piece to this
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where it needs to find our way into our prayer
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lives. Like this is really made for a house group, small
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group in your church. We don't just want to present information. We really want to
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see transformation, spiritual transformation. So there's always a
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prayer piece to this. And it's so much more fun to do it in
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community, in groups. That's so much more effective than
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just reading a booklet, reading a manual on how to
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do the care portal, on how to do these things. Well, well, can I
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just mention, Johan, that we have information overload in
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our society today. We no longer are looking
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for more information. We're looking for transformation
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here. And that's what when we go, actually, when we're signing up
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a church to utilize the care portal, we're
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saying, show us your smallest form of community.
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Currently, we're not telling you how to run your church, but where is your
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smallest form of community? Where do you have a place where people
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congregate? Is it a small group? Is it a coffee time? Is it
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a prayer group? Where's your watering hole. Where
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are you finding life in your congregation? Here is a
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peer to peer led resource that can be added
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nutrients to that conversation, nutrients to that smallest form of
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community to mobilize them. Yes, we want community and
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that cohesiveness together, but we also want to drive
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that smallest form of community into action, into their community, so that
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they can utilize what they're receiving, what their
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Bible knowledge and their community, they're including other people
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into it. So it is peer to peer led. There's a video
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component, there's an easy guide to follow. And we're actually
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saying if you want to be active in your community through the care portal,
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we're asking you to do this together. Because how can you be community
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out there if you can't do it together and grow together
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through this experience and be accountable to each other? You're not doing us a
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service, you're not volunteering for us. We're wanting to add life and
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vitality to your congregation and help
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lead you into active service. But before we
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get into those details, what about those communities that don't want to do
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care portal? Or they don't. It hasn't even been on the radar.
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Could they take the course and still get something out of it? What do you
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think? I think they could, yeah. No, I definitely
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think you don't need to wait till care portal is in your community
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to be activated. This is a biblical
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command. We're not serving care portal. Care portal is simply a
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tool to actually maximize your impact. So I'm still
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a huge fan of doing collective
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impact and doing it in a smart way. However,
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any community, I'd love to dive into what
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the modules look like because I think people will
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realize that there's something here for everyone. Yeah, because really
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that fifth module is the one where you get into the practicals of how to
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use care portal. So the first four modules I think anybody
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would benefit from for sure if you wanted to do with your small group. So,
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yeah, so that first week, it's a five week course.
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So that first week we titled this Kairos
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moments. Now we're not going to go into deep detail what that means, but
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you want to give us a quick overview of what Kairos moments looks like.
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Yeah, we're looking at how does God interrupt our lives?
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We have no time, we're busy and sometimes we want to
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curate our faith. We choose when we're going to, especially
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Christmas time. Everybody loves to be caring and hearing the voice of God then,
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and caring in specific ways. But God breaks in on a Monday morning
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as well, God breaks in on a Thursday afternoon in the middle of
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summer, even though we're going camping and we're looking at
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those Kairos moments, when God invites us into a moment that
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we didn't curate, but God has interrupted us. And you're gonna hear
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Harold and myself, our story of the times that God has broken
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in and saying, God. We said to God, like, surely you know that we're busy
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doing the Lord's work, and yet we had somebody at our doorstep and where we
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were invited to receive them in, and they were exactly who
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we needed to be with. And so we're gonna talk about those chiral moments of,
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what do we do when God interrupts us with
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opportunities or thoughts or callings on our life? And we
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say, paying attention to how do we hear God's voice?
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How do we hear God's voice together and become vulnerable together and
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accountable in the body of Christ and supportive of each
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other through those Kairos moments, and then how do we respond? Because faith
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without actions is dead. And so I believe that
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everybody in the church has multiple Kairos moments where we're
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invited in. And, yes, it's disruptive, but, boy,
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does God work through those moments. And how do we respond? And
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so you're going to be hearing some stories about that
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and walking with each other through those opportunities,
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and we're going to be introducing you to ways that God can break in, even
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through care portal stories. And how do you respond to that? And
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just to bring clarity, you and Harold are coming on for the next
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podcast episode. Your story's not shared in that first
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module. Okay, so what about week number two? We
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titled this one rethinking poverty. I think
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we often have a preconceived idea
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of what poverty is. Usually it has to do
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with financial poverty or resourcing
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poverty, housing poverty. And
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all of those are part of it. But we're really unpacking the
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theology of poverty and suffering and looking at the many
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ways that we can experience poverty. And really, at its
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core, is a relational element, a relational poverty
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that is more identifiable to everybody in Canada
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than we actually make it out to be. And let's
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identify that with our own poverty in the areas that we have
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deficits as well, and so that it doesn't become an us and them,
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those that have and those that have nothing and those that have. And there's a
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prosperity gospel that we have to be cautious about that. Oh, if God
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has been providing and we're doing well, then we can go
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rescue those that have less. Actually, can we sit with the
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core. Can we be with and understand our own sense
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of poverty and grow together more in a mutually
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transformative way? And we're going to bring groups into
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that understanding. And in this episode, in the subsequent, in this series, we're
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going to actually talk about some stories and introduce you to
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some poverty training and experiences that you could bring
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into your congregation. So that's going to be exciting as well.
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Awesome. So that third week, the topic we entitled
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radical presence in hard places. So what do we mean when we say
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radical presence? You don't have to look far.
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Maybe you're looking on the news or you're
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hearing somebody's story or you're at a meeting.
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And we can see that there's a lot of
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trauma, a lot of difficulty that people are going through.
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You might even be experiencing it in your own family. And there's
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a lot of people going through a lot of hard times. And one
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of the things that we've observed is that as we're introducing
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people to the care portal and they're being introduced to people's
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stories, whether they're a newcomer struggling to
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get their feet on the ground, or a youth aging out
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or a family that is desperately trying to work together, these are
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hard stories that we're introducing people to. And it's not foreign
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to anyone. They have hard stories around them, but it can be
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paralyzing for the church. There's like this separation
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from what they know biblically to be true to. How do
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we practically care for others in these hard places?
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So we're going to be unpacking a little bit some basic principles
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of trauma care. And what does the Bible say about helping
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people in their distress? Being with the radical
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presence is often just being with and knowing how to
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be good at being present with other people's suffering
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without the need to rescue them or fix people.
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People are not projects to be fixed, but people to be with. And,
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and God has such good illustrations in the Bible
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that we can learn from. But I think what we're trying to do in this
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module is unpack that. What does it actually mean
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when I see that care portal request? What does it actually mean when
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I read the news? What does it actually mean when I'm sitting with somebody in
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my congregation that's going through a hard time? And what is a
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biblical response? What is a faithful and obedient response
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to that? And I think people will feel enlightened and that burden lifted,
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that they don't have to save people, but that their presence
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matters. And again, like each of these sessions has
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a time where they can really reflect and meditate on
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scripture, go contemplative and hear from the Lord for themselves.
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So the feedback we've got is, everybody loves that part of it.
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So our fourth week, which is the last, if you are not doing
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care portal, and we called that one awakening
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dignity. You want to tell us a little bit about that one?
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Yes. Awakening dignity is really about
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showing respect and dignity when we're responding to the
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needs of others, when people have invited us into their sacred
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spaces and challenging spaces, how do we do that?
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With mutuality and respect, human to human
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caring for each other. And I think this is an
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important aspect that we all desire
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to give dignity to others. But sometimes even in
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our unawareness of what we're projecting or unawareness of
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our presence, what we bring into their story, we can actually
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induce shame and cause more
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friction or cause more harm than good,
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even when our intentions don't mean to. And so we're talking about how do
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we bring dignity into the stories of others
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when we go to their doorstep and respond to the need that they've invited
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us into? What does it look like to give dignity to social
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workers who are part of a system much bigger than themselves?
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And yes, it's imperfect, but how do we show dignity and love
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and compassion and see the human side of them? How do we show
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dignity to officials and leaders? And how do we people,
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well, as the church, and I think sometimes we can get into this
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us and them mentality where we have this church
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culture, where we were really caring and supportive. When you're in the
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culture, you get it, but it's really hard to integrate into the
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community. And sometimes it comes out weird and indignifying.
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We're not bashing the church over the head at all, but we're just saying,
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here's some simple tools. It's actually easier than you think. You can drop the mask.
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You can actually be human with other people. You don't have to be perfect. In
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fact, in our imperfection, in our vulnerability, we are actually
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drawing people in and connecting with people in a really mutually
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transformative way. And so this is simply a tool to say, you know what? It
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might be easier than you think. And here's some great biblical examples. Here's
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some great tools for, for prayer and contemplation so that you can say,
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hey, lord, when I go into my day today,
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how can I be fully present? How can I provide dignity to
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those I interact with, whether it's a homeless person at a streetlight
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or it is somebody in my workplace or somebody I
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don't even get along with. But how do we give
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dignity as image bearers of Christ serving image
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bearers of Christ? Yeah, because if that knowledge doesn't make it into
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our daily lives, our prayer lives, or spiritual lives, it's like that seed that falls
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on that hard ground and just dies and shrivels up. Right.
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Such an important part of this course. But we do have that
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practical part of this course where we walk you through the care portal. And this
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is obviously for those that want to get care portal into their
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churches. Week five, we call them meaningful care portal
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connections. So what does that look like, Wendy, on that? Week five, it's
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very practical. We'll bring one of our staff in and work with
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the congregation, with the small groups that have
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gone through the training, and they are committed to wanting to
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serve because faith without actions is dead. So we don't want to just make it
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a. Oh, that was really nice. That was very powerful
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and really not see action. We're actually tracking that and saying,
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okay, as you've learned these things, how has it
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actually translated into meaningful compassion in your
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community? And so for the churches that have said yes to care portal,
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we're saying, can we help activate at the small group level?
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Can we activate these groups to show acts of kindness and respond to
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needs through the care portal? So the. The actual module will be
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very practical. How do you show up? It's like telling my teenager, how do
25:03
you answer the phone? Right? How do you have a phone conversation? We're doing that
25:06
with churches because we're. We're realizing that while there is a
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desire to care for the community, there's actually some social
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skills and social development that needs to happen on a practical
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level to remove some barriers that people are feeling like.
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Canadians don't just show up at somebody's door. Right? Canadians don't
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just work with social services. Canadians don't necessarily work across
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the sectors. But we're saying, you know what, church? You can do
25:32
this. And we're going to show you how. Don't go by yourself. Here's some best
25:35
practices. Here's some things to do when you. You have an encounter with
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others. Just some very basic things that help
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people. People well. And not only that, the technology
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is working great in Canada, I have to say, and give kudos to the care
25:50
portal team in the US who have partnered with us.
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We're the first to take it out of the. Out of the country and into
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Canada. And the technology works well, but we're teaching
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congregations how to use technology. You know, everybody knows how
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to use an Uber app. I think most people do. Or Uber eats or
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these technologies that allow us to get food or other
26:12
products. We know how to use Amazon prime, that doesn't seem formidable,
26:16
but sometime within the church, we actually need help to use technology, saying,
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you mean, I could actually, in a similar way, use an app to
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be able to see needs in real time. And if I click this button,
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I can actually be connected with that social worker to coordinate
26:31
that care so that we can make sure mom gets baby home safe and
26:35
sound. So we're actually just helping handhold that
26:38
process so that everybody can care
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in meaningful ways. It's absolutely brilliant
26:45
technology and care portal itself. Like, it's amazing
26:49
that the church actually found a way to connect with social
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services. Like, that is not an easy
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thing to happen. If any of you work in social services, you know that
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the church and social services don't tend to work together very
27:03
closely. Now, I'm really excited about that. And one of the things I've
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learned about over the five year journey, bringing care portal, introducing
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it into Canada, and seeing how will it respond
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in different sectors within our canadian sector, is that
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social service is ready for it. If it was just for even
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secular, if social service, it was up to them, we would
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be, like, rampant across Canada. But we have to go at the pace of
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relationships in building up the church to be able to respond, to
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put it on the peripheral, put it in the vision within the church and
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denominations to say, you know what? We actually have a space here. Child
27:40
welfare isn't just a government issue or,
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or the nonprofit that we give our support to once a
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year. It's actually the whole church can, it can be part of this
27:52
caring capacity. And so we're really going at the pace of
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the local church, and we're going at the pace that cities
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across Canada have developed networks. And so one of
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the joys I get to have right now is working with different city
28:07
leaders that they're saying, we have this vision to see our
28:11
churches work together. We have this vision to see the churches
28:15
work with the social sector. And so we're going at that pace and
28:18
are able to. So the good news is we're able to work with them and
28:22
give them technology and the training and some of these resources like we're
28:25
talking about today to help cities take
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leadership in these same ways. And we're here to walk alongside, and
28:33
it's the joy of my life is walking alongside city leaders
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as their grappling with building these bridges. That's
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such a beautiful picture, having the church work side
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by side with social services to serve the community,
28:48
to help those kids aging out of care. And that moment that is in
28:52
danger of losing her children because of lack of
28:56
resources. To have the church partner with social services so
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that those things can be alleviated is amazing,
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unheard of. And I'm just excited about the future of the church,
29:07
and that's why we're doing this care journey. Right? Well, and the verse that comes
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to mind when you're saying that, Johan, is the harvest is
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plentiful. There's actually ample ways that the church is
29:17
being invited in across the sectors to work with children
29:21
and families and those most vulnerable in our cities. But the
29:25
workers are few. And that is a challenge to the church that
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we were sitting with pastors in the beginning saying, what is helping your churches
29:33
grow? What are some of your frustrations and friction points that
29:36
prevent the whole church from caring well for their community?
29:41
And we're all sitting with this and saying, what if there's some
29:44
resources that anybody in the congregation could lead
29:48
a small group? They can gather people around the table. They can bring people into
29:51
their living room and grow closer to God and to each other
29:55
and challenge each other and keep each other accountable and grow together in
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loving their neighbor. Well, the workers are few. We can only grow care
30:02
portal. We can only grow it as the church in
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caring for our community in these meaningful ways, as much as
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the workers are developed and disciples and nurtured.
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And one of the beautiful things that I see is this isn't
30:16
about like roping people in when
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I see somebody that originally was just a Sunday
30:24
Christian, and yet all of a sudden they discover those Kairos
30:27
moments and God is speaking to them and saying, you know what? I'm, I've
30:31
created you in this unique way. I've given you these
30:34
passions. I've wired you in this specific way. I've
30:38
created you for community. And when they discover their God
30:41
given identity, which is part of this whole care
30:45
journey process, they light up, they become
30:49
alive. And I think that's what we want for our congregations. We don't want
30:53
to just see people out in the communities transformed.
30:56
We want to see the church revitalized, and that's going to be
31:00
through discipleship and community.
31:04
And we want to share those stories right here on the podcast. So
31:08
we want more churches involved, and we want to see more of those stories encouraging
31:12
the church to be the hands and feet of Jesus. We don't want this to
31:15
sound like an infomercial for something we're wrapping up to
31:19
sell or anything. So Wendy, for those churches that want to get their hands on
31:23
it, we actually made this resource free at the moment. You
31:27
can go to Careimpact ca
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carejourney. No spaces in there. That's Careimpact ca
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carejourney. There's a form there to get you on the waiting list for your
31:37
church. Again, it's no cost unless you want us to get
31:40
some printed color booklets for you and your group. But there is
31:44
a leader's guide and there's, there's workbooks that will be sent to you
31:48
digitally PDF if you want to print it on your own. Again, that that part
31:52
is free, but if you want it printed through us, we can do that for
31:54
you. And one of the caveats with that, I'll just add, is
31:58
that we want to learn with you what is working, what is transforming
32:02
your group. And so you'll. You'll have opportunity for your participants
32:06
in your small group to be able to give some responses on how it
32:10
is impacting them. We are wanting to, to grow this, um, and
32:13
so by you, um, utilizing our resources,
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we also want to be learning with you and from you. And so we
32:21
would love for your participation. So if you're part of a congregation
32:25
and you're part of a small group and you're eager to discover how
32:29
to bring compassion into action, we invite you to
32:32
follow along in this series. You will be inspired by the stories we share
32:36
and possibly you could consider taking the care
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journey. Thank you for
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32:50
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32:58
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