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Interview of the Week: British comedian Gina Yashere on releasing her first book, the memoir Cack-Handed · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: I also performed with Death Comedy Jam. Please welcome to
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Speaker 1: money making Conversation, Gina Yahai, nice to leave you. How
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Speaker 1: you doing, my friend? Uh, let's let's start with the name.
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Speaker 1: Let's start with the names, because that means you know,
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Speaker 1: my name's Rushan. And you know, as I was coming
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Speaker 1: to them through the business, I had so many people
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Speaker 1: say my name different and sometimes I let that slide
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Speaker 1: because I just wanted to I just wanted stage time.
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Speaker 1: I wanted somebody left me in the front door. So
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Speaker 1: if you caught me rude, Russian, uh Rashin, I went
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Speaker 1: with it, you know. And then it came to the
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Speaker 1: point where Rashan, what's my name? And and I held
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Speaker 1: to that and then I corrected people talk about your
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Speaker 1: journey with your last name. And also because I know
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Speaker 1: it's important to talk about that because people don't understand
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Speaker 1: that it comes with respect. It comes with also statue
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Speaker 1: because once people started saying it right, it means you
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Speaker 1: elevating your game. Talk about it exactly exactly when obviously
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Speaker 1: my name is Nigerian, my parents and from Berlin, city
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Speaker 1: in Nigeria. And my name is Yeah and that sounds
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Speaker 1: pronounced yeah and it's actually spelled I y A s
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Speaker 1: h E r E. But when I started doing comedy,
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Speaker 1: they kept mispronouncing the name and pronouncing the eye, which
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Speaker 1: is almost silent. So I so I dropped the eye
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Speaker 1: from my name, so yes, because the eyes almost saying yesterday.
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Speaker 1: The eye is silent. So I dropped the eye to
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Speaker 1: help people put out pronounce it probably and they still
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Speaker 1: mispronounced it for a long time. I get called the
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Speaker 1: sheer yes, like oh, so I have to make I've
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Speaker 1: got this thing now I go it's yesterday. I think yes,
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Speaker 1: hooray and people, you know, so I can tell who
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Speaker 1: has done their research before the show when they pronounced
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Speaker 1: my name quit he did good? I think he did.
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Speaker 1: I like that like that, like I like to paray.
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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I like that. I
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Speaker 1: like that. It's almost like cheering your name because exactly
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Speaker 1: your all breath of fresh air. You know, you are
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Speaker 1: best of fresh air. And we want to talk about
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Speaker 1: a couple of things. You want to talk about the
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Speaker 1: because I was a sitcom writer, you know I did, uh?
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Speaker 1: I did because I broke it with Steve Harvey and
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Speaker 1: Me and the Bars on ABC, and then I did
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Speaker 1: Robert Towns in Parenthood and Sister Sister with the Twins,
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Speaker 1: Tim Tomarrow, Maora, and then Jamie Fox series, and I
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Speaker 1: also did Monique series The Parkers and so I so we.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to do this interview because of the fact
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Speaker 1: that I felt we related a lot. But you just
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Speaker 1: came from British and you have a Nigerian background. But
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Speaker 1: we are both people of color, which means that we
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Speaker 1: also experienced racism. Also people passing over ignoring our talents.
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Speaker 1: Talk about your journey a little bit from the writing side,
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Speaker 1: the sitcom side, to get your story, your show that
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Speaker 1: your co executive producer that you co created on the
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Speaker 1: air on CBS. Yeah. I mean the thing is, I
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Speaker 1: never considered mysel helf a TV writer. I was like,
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Speaker 1: I have to stand up comic. That's what I do,
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Speaker 1: That's what I love, That's what I'm gonna do forever.
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Speaker 1: And I was hoping to become successful as that hugely successful,
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Speaker 1: I mean aunt successful as to stand up comic for
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Speaker 1: quite a while, but that was all I wanted to do.
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Speaker 1: I've never been crazy ambitious. My dream was to be
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Speaker 1: the best friend on someone else's sitcom and use that
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Speaker 1: stydom to sell out bigger comedy clubs and arenas, and
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Speaker 1: that's all I wanted to do. People will offer me
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Speaker 1: gigs for years to write on TV shows, and I
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Speaker 1: was like, no, I don't want to day job. I
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Speaker 1: don't want to work for anybody else. I like working
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Speaker 1: for myself. I don't And I've heard horror stories of
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Speaker 1: the politics and things that go on in writer's rooms,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, I want no parts of that.
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Speaker 1: So I avoided writing on a TV show from all
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Speaker 1: my career. This show came out of the blue. I
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Speaker 1: just got to call out the blue, but from Chuck Glory.
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Speaker 1: My agent got a call saying, Chuck Laurie of Big
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Speaker 1: Bang Theory two and a half men Sheldon, he wants
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Speaker 1: to meet. And I was like, okay. And I was
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Speaker 1: living in New York at the time, very happily doing
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Speaker 1: my stand up I lived in l A for a
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Speaker 1: few years, struggled to make money, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to New York because as
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Speaker 1: a stand up comic I can make a living in
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Speaker 1: New York. I'm going to New York. So I was
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Speaker 1: living happily in New York for six years, had no
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Speaker 1: plans to come back to Los Angeles. So I had
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Speaker 1: this meeting. I flew over to l A to meet Chuck.
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Speaker 1: I mean originally I was like, well, they're flying me
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Speaker 1: first class, right, I've just come off a long tour
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Speaker 1: first class. And my agent was like, uh, they don't
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Speaker 1: fly people first class because it's just from meeting. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, well then I'm not going. So basically
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Speaker 1: I knew my work from day one. I was like,
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Speaker 1: Michael Molly with. I want to do another show with him,
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Speaker 1: I was so obviously we were three white guys, because
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Speaker 1: it was Chuck Loriy, Eddie Gordevski and our Higgins where
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Speaker 1: he's main two collaborators on a lot of few stuff,
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Speaker 1: in my head, I was like what. I was not
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Speaker 1: feeling it at all. I was based suspicious. I was like,
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Speaker 1: they're just beautiful, Gina. I'm talking to Jane Yasha. She's
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Speaker 1: the co creator, co executive producer of this hit CBS series,
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Speaker 1: Bob Hopps Alba Shoulder. Now, I'm gonna just tell you
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Speaker 1: right now, you know, being in the writer's room with sitcoms,
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Speaker 1: you know, and you were not wrong in your feelings.
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Speaker 1: Somebody comes in their white and and they're telling you
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Speaker 1: We see they were right too, because they said, we'll
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Speaker 1: go back and ask more questions. Because this is you know,
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Speaker 1: Chuck Laurie, you know, Big Bang theory, the guy that
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Speaker 1: the guy is super rich. We all know that, okay,
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Speaker 1: and so and so and so he really is, he
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Speaker 1: really is. And so that's just a you know, uh
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Speaker 1: two and a half min just a number of series
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Speaker 1: he's done over the years. Because Barb Laurie has been
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Speaker 1: around as long as I've been doing sitcoms back in
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Speaker 1: two I've been writing no sitcoms. So when the show
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Speaker 1: Bob Hearts Bob Hearts at a Shoulder came about and
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Speaker 1: you did the pilot, did you ask for any additional
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Speaker 1: writers of color on staff? How did they work out? Oh? Absolutely? Um,
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Speaker 1: I said to them, look case the thing you've discovered me.
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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of means out there. If we're
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Speaker 1: gonna make this show authentic, we can't be doing having
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Speaker 1: a room full of the same old white guys that
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Speaker 1: you've been working with for years. So I to make
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Speaker 1: sure we got black writers in the room. But what
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Speaker 1: I did, I did I circumvented the normal way of
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Speaker 1: trying to force them to take on black writers. What
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Speaker 1: I would do was obviously on the stand up comics
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Speaker 1: sell I book a comedy club and I'd be headlining,
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Speaker 1: and I put my black friends on the shows and
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Speaker 1: then invite Chuck and the guys to come to the shows.
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Speaker 1: I invited themselves, and I didn't tell my friends what
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Speaker 1: I was doing because I didn't want them to be nervous.
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Speaker 1: And I just go, yeah, just come and open the
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Speaker 1: show from me. I'm headlining come and do twenty minutes
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Speaker 1: up in front of me. So I invited my friends
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Speaker 1: onto the show and put them on the shows. And
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Speaker 1: then I invited Chuck and Alan Eddie to my comedy show.
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Speaker 1: And whenever they went, oh, we like that person. She's
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Speaker 1: very funny. We really liked her. That I go, we're
14:41
Speaker 1: really good because she also writes, I love you. So
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Speaker 1: I then set up meetings between these comedies that they liked.
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Speaker 1: And then and that's how I got black black writers
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Speaker 1: on the show. So I got Gloria Bigelow, who was
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Speaker 1: a stand up comic in l A. That's how I
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Speaker 1: got her on the show. I put on my comedy night.
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Speaker 1: They liked her. I was like, well she writes, and
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Speaker 1: I put them together. They had a meeting, they loved her,
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Speaker 1: and now she has been a writer from day one
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Speaker 1: on the show. And that's how we did. And then
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Speaker 1: we went out and looked for young Nigerian writers and
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Speaker 1: young black writers to put in the room. So that's
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Speaker 1: you know. I insisted that the room has to reflect
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Speaker 1: this show and they were open to it. They were
15:23
Speaker 1: open to no one would be the only black writer
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Speaker 1: in the room. Fighting I need other black writers and
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Speaker 1: I need women as well. I need a nice mixed room,
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Speaker 1: and that's what we did. So I'm very proud of
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Speaker 1: that and that and also when we were passing the show,
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Speaker 1: I made sure that I sat in all the auditions,
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Speaker 1: so when those black actors walked into a room and
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Speaker 1: saw me sitting there, they knew that they were not
15:49
Speaker 1: going to be asked to do any kind of coonery,
15:51
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Absolutely absolutely came up to
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Speaker 1: me afterwards and said, it was so good to see
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Speaker 1: you in the room because it made that It put
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Speaker 1: us an immediately a gina. I really people need to
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Speaker 1: understand the process that you're going through and being a
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Speaker 1: portrait and the person who's involved in sitcoms right there.
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Speaker 1: It can lead to stupid jokes, it can move to
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Speaker 1: I remember when Steve Harvey was doing sitcom Me and
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Speaker 1: You're just a talented person who lives this protial, particular
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Speaker 1: life and you need support. And that's where the writer's
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Speaker 1: room is about, especially in sitcoms, because it's usually about
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Speaker 1: just give people background information by tending to have writers
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Speaker 1: in the sitcom room because you you pitch jokes, you
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Speaker 1: pitch storylines, and I always tell people, and Gina will
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Speaker 1: agree with this, you'll writer script and you may think
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Speaker 1: the writer's room and the only thing that's probably left
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Speaker 1: on that script is the name of the script in
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Speaker 1: your name? Am I write? Jina? Oh yeah, absolutely. We've
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Speaker 1: written stuff, and then we'll go back in and it
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Speaker 1: may change hundred percent, but the basic premise premises there,
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Speaker 1: and we all pitching to make it better. And sometimes
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Speaker 1: I don't handed it a script and go that's scene.
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Speaker 1: I know what's that tactic? And then we work on
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Speaker 1: it and I go, all right, you're right. It's better now.
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Speaker 1: on because making that transition from a stand up comic
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Speaker 1: to a writer, and because the check, the money is
19:49
Speaker 1: good everybody. I'm just to let you know you get
19:52
Speaker 1: health benefits. And remember the first time I saw my check,
19:56
Speaker 1: I showed it to my wife. She said, you get
19:58
Speaker 1: paid all that And I was just a staff, right
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Speaker 1: of it. And you know that checks nice. That was
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Speaker 1: back in ninety two. Okay, that check was way nice
20:08
Speaker 1: back in ninety two. It's way better now. And so
20:10
Speaker 1: that's why. Really you might see the people in front
20:13
Speaker 1: of the cameras working, but sometimes the writers and the
20:17
Speaker 1: producers behind the cameras are actually making more money than
20:20
Speaker 1: the actors in front of the camera. Talk about that
20:23
Speaker 1: whole or awakening because like you said, you just wanted
20:26
Speaker 1: to do stand up, You just wanted to be on stage.
20:28
Speaker 1: But then they're awakening of getting that steady check, getting insurance,
20:32
Speaker 1: being validated as a producer and writer opened so many
20:35
Speaker 1: more doors and respect for your brand. Correct. Absolutely, I
20:39
Speaker 1: had no idea, So I had no idea, so you know,
20:45
Speaker 1: but Originally they put me as a consultant. I was
20:47
Speaker 1: just gonna be a consultant, and a couple of days in,
20:50
Speaker 1: Chuck was like, you know what, Uh, you can't take
20:53
Speaker 1: their consultant. We need you to help us wipe this shot.
20:56
Speaker 1: So they bumped me up to co create it because
20:57
Speaker 1: I created the characters. I told them what the characters
21:00
Speaker 1: were going to be about, what they were gonna do.
21:03
Speaker 1: So I literally created all the characters based on so
21:05
Speaker 1: they kind of knew we can't do this without Gina.
21:07
Speaker 1: So they bumped me up to co creator and producer.
21:11
Speaker 1: And so you know, when those checks started coming and
21:14
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this white boys have
21:17
Speaker 1: been learning all this money all this time. What have
21:18
Speaker 1: I been doing? Wasting my life with this standard stuff?
21:23
Speaker 1: But you know, we laugh, we laughed. But that's true
21:26
Speaker 1: myself and as an actor, because we're not I are
21:29
Speaker 1: talking about that, but we're talking about you got a
21:31
Speaker 1: separate check when you wrote a script. Now, I know
21:35
Speaker 1: back in the day it was sixteen thousand dollars per script.
21:37
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is now, but I'm pretty
21:39
Speaker 1: sure it's more than sixteen thousand dollars perscribed. I mean
21:42
Speaker 1: and the checks just keep coming in. I've never seen
21:44
Speaker 1: anything like it. So obviously I get a check as
21:46
Speaker 1: a writer, producer, I get extra check as a co creator.
21:50
Speaker 1: Then I also because I'm a comedian and I'm a performer,
21:54
Speaker 1: I wrote myself in as an actor. I've always worked
21:57
Speaker 1: to be the best friend of somebody else to sitcom.
21:59
Speaker 1: So when we I writing it, I was like, um,
22:01
Speaker 1: I think I be sure that needs the best friend.
22:03
Speaker 1: What do you think, guys? I think she needs a
22:04
Speaker 1: confident And I created this character. They didn't know I
22:07
Speaker 1: was creating it for myself, right, this character. So you
22:11
Speaker 1: know you've got all those checks plus to repeat fees.
22:14
Speaker 1: You know, during the pandemic when there was a lot
22:17
Speaker 1: not a lot of material because a lot of shows
22:19
Speaker 1: got shut down, our show got repeated a lot, and
22:22
Speaker 1: these sex just kept coming in and mail box money,
22:25
Speaker 1: mail box money, come on now day, Oh my days.
22:30
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is madness. And I was like, no
22:33
Speaker 1: one of all these white boys love being writers on
22:35
Speaker 1: the shows because these checks keep currently. Just Gina, Uh,
22:40
Speaker 1: I still get checks from Jamie Fox show, that's Naty.
22:45
Speaker 1: I still get checks from Sister Sister, that's Ny seven.
22:48
Speaker 1: I still get checks from from the Parkers. That's two thousands.
22:52
Speaker 1: So you do those checks will keep coming. And that's
22:56
Speaker 1: why you go, how these people living because they're living
22:59
Speaker 1: off residuals, they're living all for royalties. And I just
23:02
Speaker 1: feel it's such a blessing that Chuck really saw that
23:05
Speaker 1: and say, look, I'm gonna be I'm gonna do right
23:08
Speaker 1: by you. Okay, I can have you sitting over here
23:10
Speaker 1: as a consultant, but the real money in the game
23:14
Speaker 1: is writing, co producing, co creating. Put your name in
23:18
Speaker 1: those different titles. A check comes with each one, and
23:21
Speaker 1: now that allows you to pay it forward with your
23:23
Speaker 1: other peers on the show and educate them about the
23:26
Speaker 1: process of Hollywood really works. Isn't that really the process?
23:29
Speaker 1: You now know? Now you can share how Hollywood works exactly.
23:33
Speaker 1: I'm learning as I go, And then as I learned,
23:36
Speaker 1: I called my all my people and go listen, this
23:39
Speaker 1: is what we gotta do. This is where the money's at.
23:42
Speaker 1: We got to create, We got to create. This is
23:45
Speaker 1: and what he wants to be in front of the camera,
23:47
Speaker 1: which is all good, but your mency of the people
23:50
Speaker 1: behind the camera who are created writing those flips. Now,
23:54
Speaker 1: let's go back let's go back to let's go back
23:56
Speaker 1: to my favorite part of your career stand up comedy.
23:59
Speaker 1: Uh my degrees in mathematics. Okay, I got graduated with
24:03
Speaker 1: you're an engineer. So, like I said, I know we've
24:05
Speaker 1: never met Gina, but I just feel that we have
24:08
Speaker 1: such a bond because we we journey. I come from
24:11
Speaker 1: a big family, six histers, two brothers, Houston, Texas. And
24:15
Speaker 1: your book cat Handed talks about uh Nigeria and it
24:19
Speaker 1: talks about polygamy and talk about the British rule. It
24:22
Speaker 1: talks about how people are considering what you're doing to
24:25
Speaker 1: being sending for all asious living a lifestyle of polygamy,
24:30
Speaker 1: but talked to about how that really was an advantage
24:33
Speaker 1: and also since a royalty, like we joked off air
24:35
Speaker 1: that in my family and my mom and dad just
24:38
Speaker 1: my dad was in Nigeria having six sisters in two
24:41
Speaker 1: and two sons. He was in great shape, three sons,
24:43
Speaker 1: he was in great shape. So talk about that whole lifestyle.
24:46
Speaker 1: And then we want to come with your transfer over
24:49
Speaker 1: to London, England, how that lifestyle and then we're gonna
24:52
Speaker 1: talk about coming to America. Let's get started in Nigeria. Yeah,
24:55
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously polygamy was wide the practice. Uh. My
24:59
Speaker 1: grand father had many wives and many children, and it
25:03
Speaker 1: was a matter of survival. It was a matter of
25:05
Speaker 1: keeping a closeness in the family. And the whole family
25:09
Speaker 1: lived on one compoint pound and that's how it was.
25:13
Speaker 1: And it wasn't seen as citizal to white people came
25:16
Speaker 1: over and we're like, what are you're doing is wrong?
25:18
Speaker 1: It's time forward playing to these deities. You're gonna worship
25:21
Speaker 1: this white God and this white Jesus and basically forced
25:24
Speaker 1: their religion and their lifestyle and their beliefs on the
25:27
Speaker 1: African people. And and basically a lot of our stuff
25:31
Speaker 1: got sort of watered down and lost over the years,
25:33
Speaker 1: and to a certain point, we've forgotten some of our original, um,
25:38
Speaker 1: you know, traditions because it got beaten and stolen from us,
25:42
Speaker 1: you know. Um. So that was where my father, so
25:46
Speaker 1: my mother came from that, my mother's father. She had
25:49
Speaker 1: lots of brothers and sisters from various wives of her father,
25:53
Speaker 1: and all the all the women lived on on on
25:55
Speaker 1: the compound. And it's not always not always happy, you know,
25:58
Speaker 1: love and the happiness because my mother was mother was
26:01
Speaker 1: poisoned by one of the other wives because there was
26:03
Speaker 1: some jealousy. There's a hierarchy and my mother's mother was
26:06
Speaker 1: the first wife and so she, you know, she was
26:09
Speaker 1: top of the hierarchy and was prone, she was prone
26:13
Speaker 1: to resemblement from the other wives. It was like an
26:17
Speaker 1: episode of dynasty or something. It's like a real soap
26:22
Speaker 1: popular happily, But that was the tradition and that was
26:25
Speaker 1: the life that my mom came from. But as a daughter,
26:30
Speaker 1: which was kind of the patriarchy in Nigeria's race. Und
26:33
Speaker 1: as a daughter, you know, a lot of times the
26:35
Speaker 1: daughters weren't always educated. They were motherhood and wiped him.
26:40
Speaker 1: But because my mother was keenly intelligent and her father
26:42
Speaker 1: was a well traveled businessman. He was traveling all over Europe,
26:46
Speaker 1: traveling over the America, was doing business. So he was
26:48
Speaker 1: quite an open minded and well traveled guy. And he
26:52
Speaker 1: chose to educate my mother because you could see that
26:55
Speaker 1: my mother was extremely intelligent and and she sent her
26:58
Speaker 1: to really good schools and she was said and my
27:00
Speaker 1: mother became one of the youngest headmistresses school you know,
27:06
Speaker 1: school principles in Nigeria. She was in a school principle
27:10
Speaker 1: before she was twenty four years old, so she was
27:13
Speaker 1: highly educated and eventually she ended up coming to England
27:17
Speaker 1: to further her studies. And it was in England that
27:19
Speaker 1: she met my father. But basically she was kind of
27:23
Speaker 1: like forced to go over it right when she was
27:26
Speaker 1: killing her mother was killed by the other wife because
27:30
Speaker 1: she was so educated and so beloved by her father.
27:35
Speaker 1: My mother, her mother had begged her father to send
27:40
Speaker 1: her away, that she's in danger from the other wife.
27:43
Speaker 1: She was envious of her education and the fact that
27:46
Speaker 1: she was so beloved by her father. So after her
27:50
Speaker 1: mother died, her father was like okay and sent her
27:53
Speaker 1: to England. Said, look, his money, go to England, further
27:57
Speaker 1: your studies, make her life in England. Because you know,
28:00
Speaker 1: England was seen as the motherland. Nigeria was a British colony,
28:03
Speaker 1: so England was seen as the motherland of night soildren.
28:06
Speaker 1: A lot of Nigerian's wanted to go to England to study,
28:09
Speaker 1: gain those qualifications and then come back and bring their
28:13
Speaker 1: their new qualifications back to my jew and help build
28:15
Speaker 1: the country. So my my my grandfather sent my mother
28:18
Speaker 1: to England to study, and that's where she was and
28:21
Speaker 1: that's where she met my father and that's where my
28:24
Speaker 1: history begins. Well your history, well your history is a
28:27
Speaker 1: great history, you know. And the cat Candid. Let's talk
28:29
Speaker 1: about that titler because I want to go. I'm talking
28:31
Speaker 1: to Jeanie Yashure. You know, she's the co executive was
28:34
Speaker 1: just He's the co creator, actress, co starring on this
28:36
Speaker 1: series Bob Hearts Bob Hart ab a showl Up, which
28:40
Speaker 1: is a cb A hit series. Now, when when I
28:42
Speaker 1: talk about this about you in general, Um, what I
28:45
Speaker 1: want to make sure people understand is that cat handed
28:48
Speaker 1: is a word for clumsia, awkward. You know, she's left handed.
28:51
Speaker 1: That's what cat means left in the British terminology. So
28:56
Speaker 1: when where where are we leaving with? Is we leading
28:58
Speaker 1: with the word awkward tired to cat? Are we lean
29:01
Speaker 1: the word clumsily? Tired to cay or just a fish
29:05
Speaker 1: out of water? Which one of those terms. Oh, there
29:08
Speaker 1: are so many meanings for the box. As you you said,
29:10
Speaker 1: cat candid is a British old British word for left
29:13
Speaker 1: handed also means clumsy or good, which I don't believe
29:16
Speaker 1: we are. I think we're living in a right handed world.
29:19
Speaker 1: So we're perceived as clumsy. If I'm at a bar
29:21
Speaker 1: and I'm next to you and I'm talking, I'm gesticulating
29:24
Speaker 1: with my left hand. I'm gonna knock over your drink
29:26
Speaker 1: because you've put your drink on the right hand side
29:29
Speaker 1: of your body, which is your dominant hand. My left
29:31
Speaker 1: hand is my dominant hand. I'm gonnaknock your drink over,
29:34
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna call me clumsy, but it's not.
29:36
Speaker 1: It's a right handed world, and I'm just clumsy in
29:39
Speaker 1: it because everything is catered for right handers. So that's
29:43
Speaker 1: why cat handed means it's clumsy and all. It also
29:46
Speaker 1: talks about my journey. My journey has never been straightforward.
29:49
Speaker 1: I've had to duck, dive, and weave and and circumvent
29:53
Speaker 1: various obstacles that been put in my way. So that's
29:56
Speaker 1: also another meaning of cat handed, in that my journey
29:59
Speaker 1: has been im conventional. Also, khat is another word for pooh.
30:03
Speaker 1: And I know if you knew that, I did know that,
30:05
Speaker 1: not my research. I didn't know that in my research.
30:07
Speaker 1: You know our researching your girl. Yea. Many cultures, African
30:10
Speaker 1: culture and Middle Eastern culture, the left hand is the
30:13
Speaker 1: hand that's supposed to be the one that's used to
30:16
Speaker 1: wipe your bottom after you do a pooh kat is
30:19
Speaker 1: another word for pooh, so kat basically means pooh handed. So,
30:23
Speaker 1: though are very and as a Nigerian, because my family
30:26
Speaker 1: is African, I was born left handed. For a long time,
30:30
Speaker 1: I was forced to write with my right hand because
30:32
Speaker 1: the left hand is seen is unclean. And even in
30:34
Speaker 1: the Bible, you know, there's terms that say, you know,
30:37
Speaker 1: Jesus sat on the right hand side of God. The
30:40
Speaker 1: right hand is always the good side. The left hand
30:42
Speaker 1: is always seen as unclean. So when I was a kid, yeah,
30:45
Speaker 1: I was forced to write with my right hand, forced
30:47
Speaker 1: to cook with my right hand, forced to do it.
30:49
Speaker 1: So if my mom walked into the kitchen and I
30:51
Speaker 1: was stirring apart of food with my left hand, I'd
30:55
Speaker 1: get a slap around the head and all that food
30:57
Speaker 1: would go in the flash and we'd start again. So
31:00
Speaker 1: hence that's why the title of the book is that,
31:02
Speaker 1: because it encompasses various aspects of my life on my journey. Wow,
31:06
Speaker 1: you're amazing, uh, And I want to wrap up by
31:09
Speaker 1: asking a couple of more questions. One, why did you
31:11
Speaker 1: write the book? Because it's a memoir, you know, and
31:14
Speaker 1: a memoir is usually told you want people to be
31:17
Speaker 1: motivated by your story, which I am motivated by your story.
31:21
Speaker 1: But why did you write the book and also become relatable?
31:24
Speaker 1: I felt a lot of your story was relatable because
31:26
Speaker 1: if in the beginning and you know, well, you know,
31:28
Speaker 1: you may be in London, England, but you dealt with racism,
31:31
Speaker 1: just like I deal with racism in America, and sometimes
31:33
Speaker 1: we don't understand that there's a Black Lives Matters the
31:36
Speaker 1: movement in London as it is in America. Talk about
31:39
Speaker 1: the importance of the memoir and also talk about how
31:42
Speaker 1: timely this book is because it also is a history
31:45
Speaker 1: lesson book. It walks through the path of how basically
31:48
Speaker 1: you can say that you know, Nigeria was was was
31:53
Speaker 1: undermined it and basically robbed and the jury and the
31:58
Speaker 1: success and the wealth was brought into British museums. So
32:02
Speaker 1: talk about that and help us out as as we
32:04
Speaker 1: as we recommend people to pick up this book because
32:08
Speaker 1: it is an amazing book. Cat Candid, Yeah, I mean
32:11
Speaker 1: why I wrote the book. Originally it started off as
32:13
Speaker 1: just on Instagram, there was a hashtag slowback Thursdays where
32:17
Speaker 1: you past old pictures. And I was posting old pictures
32:20
Speaker 1: and writing the story behind the pictures. But I post
32:22
Speaker 1: a picture and write an elaborate post explaining the history
32:25
Speaker 1: behind the picture, and people were really interested in saying,
32:28
Speaker 1: oh my god, your stories is so good, why don't
32:31
Speaker 1: you write a book. So I started keeping those posts
32:34
Speaker 1: in a folder, and eventually a literally agent saw my
32:38
Speaker 1: post and contacted me and says, you need to write
32:41
Speaker 1: a book. So I, you know, I kept the post
32:43
Speaker 1: and like, well, maybe one day in the future I
32:44
Speaker 1: write a book. But I never really considered that this
32:47
Speaker 1: would happen so soon. So that's how the universe worked.
32:50
Speaker 1: And I wanted to talk about my history because people
32:52
Speaker 1: don't seem to realize that the UK started sleeping imperialism.
32:57
Speaker 1: The United Kingdom ruled most of the planet at one point.
33:01
Speaker 1: So people think that American racism is the be all
33:04
Speaker 1: and end all the racism. No, Americans learned that from
33:07
Speaker 1: the Brits. Americans came from the Brits. What we don't
33:12
Speaker 1: what you know? You don't realize that a lot of
33:14
Speaker 1: the black people that are from the islands, Jamaica, Barbados, Trinidad,
33:18
Speaker 1: So we should these are all Caribbean descendants of slaves.
33:23
Speaker 1: The British did their slavery slightly different from America, and
33:26
Speaker 1: that I used to do a routine on stage where
33:29
Speaker 1: I did, the British did equivalent of the Americans did
33:33
Speaker 1: the equivalent of going robbing someone's house, as is, stealing
33:36
Speaker 1: people from Africa and bringing them back home to their
33:38
Speaker 1: own house. The Brits that the equivalent of stealing stuff
33:41
Speaker 1: but keeping it in other people house, went to Africa
33:45
Speaker 1: and sole black people. They didn't bring them all to England.
33:48
Speaker 1: They hid their dirty doings and put the black people
33:51
Speaker 1: on Caribbean islands for the for the sugar plantations and
33:55
Speaker 1: on Caribbean islands, and that's where all those black people
33:58
Speaker 1: who come from those islands descendants of states. So when
34:02
Speaker 1: African Americans, you know, there's been a discord for a
34:05
Speaker 1: long time between African Americans and people coming from Africa,
34:08
Speaker 1: people coming from the islands, our history, it's almost identical.
34:13
Speaker 1: Black people in the Caribbean almost suffered exactly the same cruelty,
34:18
Speaker 1: exactly the same awfulness that they did on American land,
34:23
Speaker 1: on plant plantations within America. So what I wanted to
34:25
Speaker 1: do was when I wrote the book, I started with
34:27
Speaker 1: the history of Africa, Nigeria in particular, and the history
34:31
Speaker 1: of what Britain did to Africans and how they spread
34:35
Speaker 1: black people all over the world. That it's not the
34:38
Speaker 1: Belgians were the terrible slavers, the Dutch, the South Africa,
34:42
Speaker 1: you know, all of it. So I just wanted to
34:45
Speaker 1: show the commonality between black people. Wherever you end up
34:49
Speaker 1: in the diaspora, We've all had very similar experiences. Accents
34:54
Speaker 1: might be different, we might speak different languages, but the
34:57
Speaker 1: experiences are very similar. So that's part of the history
35:01
Speaker 1: of what when I explained that, and then when I
35:04
Speaker 1: talk about my upbringing in England, I was also England.
35:08
Speaker 1: People think called England so genteel racism doesn't England and work.
35:13
Speaker 1: You're now discovering it with what happened with you know,
35:15
Speaker 1: Megan Market and Prince Harry. But racism is just as
35:18
Speaker 1: prevalent in Europe as it is in America. I spent
35:22
Speaker 1: my life running away from skinne, being abused racially at work,
35:27
Speaker 1: being pulled over by the police all the time for
35:29
Speaker 1: no reason. The only reason that less black people die
35:32
Speaker 1: at police hands in England is because our police do
35:34
Speaker 1: not carry guns on a routine basis. They only carry
35:37
Speaker 1: guns for for for particular incidents where they are then
35:42
Speaker 1: have given special permission to have. They do not carry
35:45
Speaker 1: guns on a daily basis. And that is the only
35:47
Speaker 1: reason the black people are not dying at the hands
35:50
Speaker 1: of police at the same numbers in England as America.
35:52
Speaker 1: The only reason the police in America are just as
35:56
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