Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Democrats Double Down w Impeachments for Republicans plus U.S. Captures Tanker Linked to Maduro Regime
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- 0:01Speaker 1: There is one strategy, and one strategy only for the
- 0:05Speaker 1: Democratic Party, and that is to impeach any Republican official
- 0:10Speaker 1: in Donald Trump's cabinet. They also want to impeach Donald Trump.
- 0:17Speaker 1: And if you want to know what's going to happen
- 0:19Speaker 1: in the midterms, if Democrats gain control of the House,
- 0:22Speaker 1: so the Senator God forbid both, it will be to
- 0:26Speaker 1: impeach everyone around the President of the United States of
- 0:29Speaker 1: America and then of course Donald Trump. Why am I
- 0:33Speaker 1: saying that, Well, let's go back to the Democratic playbook,
- 0:36Speaker 1: and I'm going to lay out for you this case,
- 0:38Speaker 1: and I really hope you're going to take this show
- 0:41Speaker 1: and you're going to share it all wherever you can
- 0:43Speaker 1: on social media.
- 0:45Speaker 2: I want to go back to when this kind.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Of started to clearly be what I would refer to
- 0:51Speaker 1: as a strategy, and you can see the strategy. You're like, Okay,
- 0:54Speaker 1: now I understand it. Now this makes sense. You had
- 0:58Speaker 1: Democratic Representative Al Green. He held a press conference on
- 1:03Speaker 1: November the twentieth, calling for Donald Trump's impeachment once again,
- 1:09Speaker 1: and I want you to hear what he said. Now
- 1:11Speaker 1: this is a condensed version. I'm not going to play
- 1:14Speaker 1: for you all of this guy's insanity. But what I
- 1:18Speaker 1: am going to play for you is the core point
- 1:20Speaker 1: that explains how this got started, because they're not just
- 1:25Speaker 1: focusing on Donald Trump. They're focusing on anyone that is
- 1:29Speaker 1: helping Donald Trump in his cabinet or administration. And they
- 1:34Speaker 1: also want to go after Supreme Court justices. I'll explain
- 1:37Speaker 1: that as well in a moment, but first we'll go
- 1:39Speaker 1: back to the beginning. And this is a orchestrated effort
- 1:44Speaker 1: by the Democrats. This is what I would describe as
- 1:46Speaker 1: a designed coup to overthrow the will of the voters
- 1:50Speaker 1: months after they voted for President Donald Trump and for
- 1:54Speaker 1: his agenda.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Take a listen.
- 1:56Speaker 3: I'm the challenge and controversy and for the remedy that
- 2:02Speaker 3: can make the difference and maintain the democracy. And that
- 2:06Speaker 3: remedy is impeachment. Impeachment. But that's not enough. That's not enough. Impeachment.
- 2:16Speaker 3: We must do Impeachment is the indictment, So he must
- 2:22Speaker 3: be indicted. Impeachment. But then there's a Senate, and the
- 2:28Speaker 3: Senate has the opportunity to try the case. It is
- 2:32Speaker 3: in the Senate that you get what conviction.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Conviction.
- 2:39Speaker 1: This was laying the playbook for the Democrats, and also
- 2:44Speaker 1: what they're running on the midterms. They're not running on
- 2:48Speaker 1: the economy, which we'll deal with in a moment. They're
- 2:51Speaker 1: not running on border security for obvious reasons. They're not
- 2:54Speaker 1: running on national security issues. That's obvious. They're not running
- 2:57Speaker 1: on stopping wars, which the president has been doing.
- 3:00Speaker 2: That's also obvious.
- 3:03Speaker 1: So what is the Democratic Party running on. They're running
- 3:07Speaker 1: on saying we want to impeach Donald Trump and everybody
- 3:11Speaker 1: else around it.
- 3:12Speaker 2: And let's go down that road.
- 3:13Speaker 1: You say, okay, hold on, Ben, you're saying that Democrats
- 3:17Speaker 1: want to impeach Donald Trump. I want you to show
- 3:21Speaker 1: proof of that. All right, we just gave you point
- 3:25Speaker 1: number one. But are they wanting to do this with others?
- 3:30Speaker 1: The answer is yes. Another congressman walked out and said,
- 3:37Speaker 1: I am announcing articles of impeachment against the Secretary of
- 3:41Speaker 1: War Pete Headseth. I want you to listen to this.
- 3:45Speaker 1: And again, this is about a month after al Green
- 3:50Speaker 1: came out, no less than a month. I just say
- 3:53Speaker 1: twenty days and actually listen that. Eleven twenty twenty five,
- 3:56Speaker 1: Algreen does this thing.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Twelve four. You have another congressman coming forward and here's
- 4:01Speaker 2: what he.
- 4:01Speaker 4: Said, and in just about an hour or so, Democratic
- 4:06Speaker 4: US Congressman Shri Tannadar will unveil his articles of impeachment
- 4:10Speaker 4: against Hegseth, the Michigan lawmaker, joining us now live ahead
- 4:14Speaker 4: of that rally to talk about his reasons behind wanting
- 4:17Speaker 4: Hegseth out of office. Congressman, thank you so much for
- 4:21Speaker 4: taking the time to join us here. I know you
- 4:23Speaker 4: have a busy day ahead of you.
- 4:25Speaker 5: Thank you thanks for having me, of.
- 4:26Speaker 4: Course, and first off, I did want to ask you
- 4:29Speaker 4: here if you can break down kind of the basis
- 4:32Speaker 4: here behind your idea to introduce these articles of impeachment
- 4:37Speaker 4: against Pete Hegseth.
- 4:39Speaker 5: Well, look, there are two issues. One is the signal gate.
- 4:42Speaker 5: He used a commercial app to talk about war plans
- 4:46Speaker 5: and he had he did not even know who is
- 4:51Speaker 5: on the signal chat. There was a editor reporter on
- 4:56Speaker 5: the signal chat. He was disclosing war plans, putting our
- 5:01Speaker 5: service members at risk. And this was totally unacceptable and
- 5:07Speaker 5: that is an impeachable offense.
- 5:10Speaker 2: In my mind.
- 5:11Speaker 4: And of course we definitely appreciate you because you are
- 5:14Speaker 4: going to hold that rally here, and what would you say.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Is more important important.
- 5:20Speaker 4: Would it be the report on signal Gate or the
- 5:22Speaker 4: strikes in Venezuela or is it kind of a mix
- 5:25Speaker 4: of both.
- 5:26Speaker 5: There, it's both, you know both. You know this Secretary
- 5:31Speaker 5: of Defense is incompetent. He's incompetent to do his job.
- 5:35Speaker 5: He is putting American truths in harm's way, in danger
- 5:41Speaker 5: because he has total disregard to the war plans and
- 5:46Speaker 5: the secrets and how he has disclosed classified information. At
- 5:51Speaker 5: the same time, we need to know what war laws
- 5:56Speaker 5: is he following when he attacked the survivors, the two
- 6:01Speaker 5: survivors on this boat that was destroyed by US military.
- 6:06Speaker 4: What about legal constitutional background here? What are you using
- 6:11Speaker 4: as you do introduce these articles of impeachment? And then
- 6:15Speaker 4: on that same note, do you feel that you have
- 6:17Speaker 4: the support to essentially get this done or is it
- 6:20Speaker 4: more symbolic? I know a lot of questions there.
- 6:24Speaker 5: Well, it needs to be done in both parties need
- 6:27Speaker 5: to come together look at it. Not there, you know,
- 6:31Speaker 5: Republicans need to look at this as a laws of
- 6:35Speaker 5: in broken. You know, the wartimes have been committed and
- 6:41Speaker 5: hexay the Secretary is refusing to show up. You know,
- 6:45Speaker 5: he did not show up for the investigation by the
- 6:51Speaker 5: the investigators about this signal gate. He did not submit
- 6:56Speaker 5: his phone, he did not show up in person. What
- 6:59Speaker 5: is the high what do they are hiding this secretary is?
- 7:05Speaker 5: This secretary is incompetent and this is the second major
- 7:11Speaker 5: of you know, a drawback, second major fault, and this
- 7:15Speaker 5: secretary must go.
- 7:17Speaker 1: So you notice he's not actually giving real reasons to
- 7:20Speaker 1: impeach him. He's saying in his mind, Pete Headseth has
- 7:24Speaker 1: done what he described, is saying he believes should be
- 7:27Speaker 1: an impeachable offense, even though it actually isn't.
- 7:30Speaker 2: There is no basis in the law for this.
- 7:33Speaker 1: This is harassment. So let's go through. We have the
- 7:37Speaker 1: president first. Now you've got another Congress announcing articles impeachment
- 7:41Speaker 1: against Headseth, saying he's committed war crimes. And then we
- 7:47Speaker 1: see the newest story. House Democrats have filed impeachment articles
- 7:54Speaker 1: now against Robert F.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior.
- 7:59Speaker 1: They're saying he is quote, I'm not joking, turned his
- 8:03Speaker 1: back on science, so therefore he should be impeached. That,
- 8:07Speaker 1: by the way, is not an actually impeachable offense. Representative
- 8:11Speaker 1: Howie Stevens, Democrat from Michigan, who's running for Senate, filed
- 8:17Speaker 1: the article's impeachment on Wednesday against Health and Human Services Secretary,
- 8:21Speaker 1: saying yeah, he just turns back on science.
- 8:23Speaker 2: Quote.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Today I formally introduced articles and impeachment against RFK JR.
- 8:27Speaker 1: RFK Junior has turned his back on science. To the
- 8:29Speaker 1: safety of the American people, Michigan Anders cannot take another
- 8:33Speaker 1: day of his chaos, the Michigan Democrat wrote in the statement.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Andrew Nixon, spokesman, by the way, for JH, just dismissed
- 8:41Speaker 1: the article's impeachment as a political stunt, employed, saying, quote
- 8:45Speaker 1: Secretary Kenny remains focused on the work of improving Americans
- 8:48Speaker 1: health and lowering costs, not on partisan political stunts. Stevens
- 8:53Speaker 1: is the second Democrat to recently move to impeach a
- 8:57Speaker 1: Trump cabinet official. You have the first when I just
- 9:00Speaker 1: played for you a moment ago, finding those articles in
- 9:02Speaker 1: impeachment against the War Secretary Pete Headseth, and then you
- 9:06Speaker 1: have now them saying well, Donald Trump's got to go
- 9:08Speaker 1: as well.
- 9:09Speaker 2: So you look at what.
- 9:11Speaker 1: We're witnessing, and I'm telling you right now on this
- 9:15Speaker 1: show as I'm here in Washington, d C. This is
- 9:18Speaker 1: what they have. Democrats have nothing to run on, they
- 9:24Speaker 1: don't have accomplishments to run on. So now what they're
- 9:26Speaker 1: saying is, we're just going to say over and over
- 9:29Speaker 1: again that this is impeachable, that this is impeachable, that
- 9:33Speaker 1: this is impeachable, and we're going to go after anyone
- 9:37Speaker 1: that is helping the president uns. It's America. You want
- 9:41Speaker 1: to know why it is so vitally important that you
- 9:47Speaker 1: vote in the midterm elections. If we lose, this is
- 9:51Speaker 1: what they are going to do, and if they have
- 9:54Speaker 1: the votes to do it, they will absolutely impeach Donald
- 9:59Speaker 1: Trump Ump and anyone else can get their hands on,
- 10:02Speaker 1: even if they haven't committed any crimes or broken any laws,
- 10:08Speaker 1: because this is the Democratic Party.
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- 11:13Speaker 1: this story under this is exactly what I've voted for
- 11:18Speaker 1: when I voted for President Donald Trump. The United States
- 11:22Speaker 1: has seized a large oil tanker off the coast of
- 11:25Speaker 1: Venezuela in a major escalation of tensions between Washington and Caracas.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Is how the mainstream media put it. In reality, this
- 11:35Speaker 1: is a huge victory for law and order. President Donald
- 11:39Speaker 1: Trump publicly announced the seizure at the White House, describing
- 11:43Speaker 1: the vessel as a very large tanker. Here's the President
- 11:47Speaker 1: in his own words, Well.
- 11:49Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
- 11:50Speaker 6: It's been an interesting day from the standpoint of news.
- 11:57Speaker 6: As you probably know, we've just seized a tanker on
- 12:02Speaker 6: the coastsa venezuela large tanker, very much largest one ever
- 12:08Speaker 6: seased actually, and other things are happening, So you'll be
- 12:13Speaker 6: seeing that later and you'll be talking about that later
- 12:16Speaker 6: with some other leeble.
- 12:19Speaker 1: The president's grinn on his face at the White House
- 12:22Speaker 1: for this moment where he decided to talk to the
- 12:25Speaker 1: media for a second and tease them about exactly what
- 12:27Speaker 1: had happened. The largest ever sees oil tanker by US
- 12:30Speaker 1: forces truly is law and order. The operation was executed
- 12:35Speaker 1: by US authorities including the US Coast Guard, the FBI,
- 12:39Speaker 1: Homeland Security Investigations, Navy support assets, and these forces coordinated
- 12:46Speaker 1: the boarding of the tanker, even shown in a public
- 12:49Speaker 1: video that has been released. Now, let's talk about the
- 12:52Speaker 1: tanker itself. It is called the Skipper. It was formerly
- 12:57Speaker 1: known as Ida and flagged in Panama. The ship was
- 13:00Speaker 1: sanctioned by the United States for years because US officials
- 13:04Speaker 1: say it was involved in transporting illicit Venezuelan and potentially
- 13:09Speaker 1: Iranian oil in violation of US sanctions. He was reportedly
- 13:14Speaker 1: heading towards Cuba carrying Venezuelan crude oil. US authorities justified
- 13:20Speaker 1: the Caesar by saying the tanker was transporting oil in
- 13:24Speaker 1: violation of US sanctions and part of an illicit oil
- 13:28Speaker 1: shipping network that it supports sanctioned entities, including direct ties
- 13:33Speaker 1: to Iran. President Trump also stated publicly that the tanker
- 13:37Speaker 1: was seized for a very good reason. He didn't publicly
- 13:40Speaker 1: disclose full legal grounds or the ship's ownership in detail.
- 13:44Speaker 1: That will be coming in the days ahead. But what
- 13:47Speaker 1: we do know is Venezuela's reaction is exactly what you
- 13:51Speaker 1: would expect. The Venezuelan government, led by Nicholas Maduro strongly
- 13:55Speaker 1: condemned the actions, called the seizure theft an Act of
- 13:59Speaker 1: into National Piracy. Caracas says the move violates a sovereignty
- 14:04Speaker 1: and is driven by US interests in Venezuela's natural resources
- 14:08Speaker 1: and oil wealth. Venezuelas valid to raise the issue at
- 14:12Speaker 1: the International Quote Forums now. The seizure has heightened geopolitical
- 14:18Speaker 1: tensions between the US and Venezuela to a new level,
- 14:21Speaker 1: is how Reuters put it this evening. It contributed to
- 14:24Speaker 1: a rise in global oil prices because of concern about
- 14:27Speaker 1: disruptions to Venezuelan oil exports.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Which are in Bargo.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Admitting now in the world market that yes, these black
- 14:36Speaker 1: ships and this oil that is not supposed to be
- 14:40Speaker 1: sold is happening each and every day, which brings me
- 14:44Speaker 1: to part two of the story. As the Left is
- 14:48Speaker 1: trying to act like this is some shocking move, even
- 14:52Speaker 1: CNN security analysts says that America seizing an oil tanker
- 14:57Speaker 1: is quote absolutely normal. Yes, even on CNN they're saying
- 15:04Speaker 1: that this is normal and law and order.
- 15:06Speaker 7: Listen carefully, let's bring in CNN national security analysts Beth Sanner.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Be's.
- 15:11Speaker 7: First of all, a lot of people don't understand the
- 15:13Speaker 7: basic idea of what's going on here. Nicholas Maduro, who
- 15:18Speaker 7: is in charge of Venezuela, President of Venezuela. He's there
- 15:22Speaker 7: because of fraud, like he should not be the leader
- 15:25Speaker 7: of Venezuela.
- 15:25Speaker 8: He lost the election.
- 15:27Speaker 7: He lost the election, and he kept power instead President
- 15:30Speaker 7: Trump is. My larger point is that President Trump is
- 15:34Speaker 7: It's not wild for people in the West to think
- 15:36Speaker 7: Madora is not there legitimately, and there has been this
- 15:39Speaker 7: pressure campaign from President Trump for him to step down.
- 15:43Speaker 7: Seizing an oil tanker, that's a much bigger deal and
- 15:47Speaker 7: a much bigger than these narco terrorist boats, as the
- 15:51Speaker 7: President calls them, people shooting them, seizing a tanker. How
- 15:57Speaker 7: could this escalate the conflict with Venezuela.
- 16:00Speaker 8: Well, you know, we've had sanctions on Venezuelan oil for
- 16:05Speaker 8: since the first Trump administration and then Biden kept them,
- 16:09Speaker 8: kept them, So to me, this is absolutely normal. I
- 16:14Speaker 8: mean seizing oil tank Yeah, we've been seizing Iranian oil
- 16:18Speaker 8: tankers in the past. We also, according to the law
- 16:22Speaker 8: that I've read, we can that oil is up for forfeiture,
- 16:27Speaker 8: so we could keep that. We've kept Iranian oil in
- 16:30Speaker 8: the past. So I actually think that this is less
- 16:35Speaker 8: controversial in terms of law and sanctions and what has
- 16:40Speaker 8: been you know, disputed or not disputed. Like I think
- 16:43Speaker 8: this is actually a pretty you know, check the box case. Now,
- 16:48Speaker 8: you know, what will this mean in terms of escalation?
- 16:51Speaker 9: Uh?
- 16:51Speaker 8: You know, what is he going to do? What is
- 16:53Speaker 8: Madeiro gonna do? Is he gonna step aside because we're
- 16:55Speaker 8: sanctioning this oil? I mean, you know, we we pick
- 16:58Speaker 8: up this oil tanker, it's one oil tanker.
- 17:01Speaker 7: Probably not, and it's unlikely that he would.
- 17:04Speaker 1: You listen to CNN and the analyst there, I love
- 17:07Speaker 1: how Jake Tapper acts like he's shocked when she says,
- 17:10Speaker 1: America sees his oil tankers, and we've done this in
- 17:13Speaker 1: the past. It's absolutely normal. But they're trying to act
- 17:17Speaker 1: like this is some shocking move. By the way, the
- 17:19Speaker 1: President of United States of America made it clear this
- 17:23Speaker 1: was going to be something they were going to do,
- 17:26Speaker 1: which comes down to the video that has come out
- 17:29Speaker 1: showing just how powerful the United States military can be
- 17:33Speaker 1: and law enforcement can be when they decide to act
- 17:37Speaker 1: and are able to do their job because of a
- 17:40Speaker 1: president of the United States of America that's willing to
- 17:43Speaker 1: allow them to do their job. Here's how Fox News
- 17:46Speaker 1: described the taking of that oil tanker.
- 17:50Speaker 9: Traumatic new video as the US sees is an oil
- 17:53Speaker 9: tanker off of the Venezuelan coast. President Trump did not
- 17:56Speaker 9: say why, but he did say, quote, other things are happening.
- 18:00Speaker 9: The administration has been striking alleged Narco terrorist vessels near
- 18:04Speaker 9: Venezuela and is putting heavy pressure on disputed President Nicholas Maduro.
- 18:08Speaker 9: Senior foreign policy correspondent Jillian Turner starts us off tonight
- 18:12Speaker 9: from the State Department.
- 18:13Speaker 10: Even Jillian good evening to you bat President Trump confirms
- 18:16Speaker 10: the United States military has seized this crude oil tanker
- 18:20Speaker 10: off the coast of Venezuela. After insisting for months now
- 18:24Speaker 10: that the US is in fact at war with drug
- 18:26Speaker 10: cartels that are running these boats in the US southcom region.
- 18:30Speaker 10: We've obtained this video that the Attorney General Pambondi posted
- 18:34Speaker 10: on social media just a moment ago. You can see
- 18:38Speaker 10: here during this seizure. She says, the FBI, the Homeland
- 18:41Speaker 10: Security Departments, and Coast Guard executed this operation with support
- 18:45Speaker 10: from the War Department. You can see here US service
- 18:48Speaker 10: members landing a military helicopter on this vessel before then
- 18:52Speaker 10: disembarking and entering. The US had issued a warrant we
- 18:56Speaker 10: are learning for this crude oil tanker, alleging it had
- 18:59Speaker 10: been used to transport illegal oil from Venezuela and Iran
- 19:03Speaker 10: in support of foreign terrorist organizations. The cazuar comes after
- 19:07Speaker 10: senior officials presented the President with potential war plans and
- 19:11Speaker 10: then deployed major navy assets to the region. While the
- 19:14Speaker 10: President himself declined to state a reason for today's seizure,
- 19:17Speaker 10: which could very well constitute an act of war, he
- 19:21Speaker 10: did say this, could we see American troops on the
- 19:25Speaker 10: ground in Venezuela.
- 19:26Speaker 5: I don't comment.
- 19:27Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that one way or the other.
- 19:30Speaker 10: In this case, President Trump says, the victor will in
- 19:33Speaker 10: fact take the spoils.
- 19:37Speaker 6: When you have to follow the tanker, you know, hear
- 19:40Speaker 6: a good Desmond.
- 19:40Speaker 5: He just followed the tanker.
- 19:42Speaker 6: A helicopter followed the tanker.
- 19:45Speaker 10: I assume we're going to keep the The US military
- 19:49Speaker 10: strikes on these alleged drug boats in the region have
- 19:52Speaker 10: so far killed at least eighty seven people, a death
- 19:55Speaker 10: toll that's become increasingly the focus of scrutiny on Capitol Hill,
- 19:58Speaker 10: where lawmakers have zero to a in on this so
- 20:00Speaker 10: called double tap strike that was carried out on September second.
- 20:05Speaker 10: Now yesterday, the Secretaries of State and War briefed key
- 20:09Speaker 10: lawmakers on Capitol Hill about these September second boat strikes.
- 20:13Speaker 10: They indicated reportedly that they are at least considering the
- 20:17Speaker 10: option to release the full unedited video footage of those strikes.
- 20:21Speaker 10: That day, Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer told reporters after the
- 20:26Speaker 10: briefing that Secretary Hegsat said to him they need to
- 20:30Speaker 10: study these tapes before they make a determination.
- 20:33Speaker 9: Brett Jillian Turner up the State Department, Jillian, thank you.
- 20:37Speaker 1: So there it is a present standing up for this country,
- 20:41Speaker 1: holding these narco terraces accountable, seizing the oil and the
- 20:46Speaker 1: tankers that are being used to prop up a regime
- 20:50Speaker 1: that is coming after America, and also working with Iran.
- 20:55Speaker 1: And what's the point of having I would say to
- 20:57Speaker 1: those on the left sanctions if you don't actually enforce them.
- 21:02Speaker 1: These sanctions, by the way, have been around in Democrats administrations,
- 21:07Speaker 1: including Biden, including Barack Obamas. But if you don't enforce
- 21:12Speaker 1: the sanctions on these countries, they're meaningless. So really, what
- 21:17Speaker 1: the President's doing is something pretty simple. He's saying, we
- 21:20Speaker 1: have sanctions, we are going to take them seriously, we
- 21:23Speaker 1: are going to enforce them, and we're going to make
- 21:26Speaker 1: them pay a major price. And all of this is
- 21:30Speaker 1: to make sure that we keep this country safe from
- 21:33Speaker 1: these narco terras that have been flooding this country. Venezuela
- 21:36Speaker 1: is a great example, with drugs and fetnyl that is
- 21:39Speaker 1: killing tens of thousands of Americans. Well done, President Trump.
- 21:47Speaker 1: The White House making it very clear that we have
- 21:50Speaker 1: a real problem with immigration from third world countries, and
- 21:56Speaker 1: is it adding to the United States of America, or
- 21:58Speaker 1: is it actually putting you and many other lives at risk.
- 22:02Speaker 1: That is part of the question that we must be asking,
- 22:05Speaker 1: and for far too long. If you ask that question,
- 22:08Speaker 1: people immediately say things like your racist, or you're a bigot,
- 22:11Speaker 1: or that's not what America is about. But the data
- 22:14Speaker 1: is showing that we do have a crisis in this country,
- 22:18Speaker 1: and so how do we deal with it? Steven Miller
- 22:21Speaker 1: talking about this from the White House on Fox News
- 22:24Speaker 1: Channel and clearly telegraphing what may be coming from the
- 22:27Speaker 1: White House. Listen carefully of the words he chooses.
- 22:30Speaker 11: So one last question, Stephen. I think you and I
- 22:32Speaker 11: could have and should have this conversation have much longer.
- 22:35Speaker 11: Skill This is something that is incredibly important and worthy
- 22:37Speaker 11: of a half hour together. But such as the nature
- 22:40Speaker 11: of television as it is right now, I'm working on that,
- 22:43Speaker 11: but this will be quickly my last question for you.
- 22:46Speaker 5: What can we do?
- 22:46Speaker 4: Stephen?
- 22:47Speaker 11: You know this was something America addressed in the nineteen twenties.
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- 22:59Speaker 11: parts of the world. Sixty five did away with what
- 23:01Speaker 11: we did in the twenties. So do we need something
- 23:03Speaker 11: like the nineteen twenty four Act.
- 23:06Speaker 12: Clearly we need to have in this country exactly what
- 23:10Speaker 12: President Trump called for, which is that we need a
- 23:13Speaker 12: moratorium on immigration from third world countries until we can
- 23:17Speaker 12: heal ourselves as a nation, solve our education issues, solve
- 23:21Speaker 12: our healthcare issues, our public safety issues, our assimilation issues,
- 23:25Speaker 12: are cultural issues. So the nineteen twenty four Act is
- 23:28Speaker 12: such a good example because so we had large immigration
- 23:31Speaker 12: from Europe from eighteen eighty to nineteen twenty. So, in
- 23:34Speaker 12: other words, we went from a country that had immigration
- 23:37Speaker 12: from part of Europe to immigration from many other parts
- 23:39Speaker 12: of Europe.
- 23:40Speaker 7: But even other European.
- 23:41Speaker 12: Countries post enormous stresses on the US system, both economically
- 23:45Speaker 12: and in terms of security.
- 23:46Speaker 2: There's a lot of crime, a lot.
- 23:48Speaker 12: Of threats of public safety and order, and those who
- 23:50Speaker 12: are addressed with very strict immigration quotas. What they don't
- 23:53Speaker 12: teach you in school is that from nineteen twenty to
- 23:56Speaker 12: nineteen seventy there was negative migration. There was a half
- 24:01Speaker 12: century of negative migration. The foreign born population declined by
- 24:05Speaker 12: forty percent for half a century. During that same time period,
- 24:08Speaker 12: will the US population doubled from natural childbirth.
- 24:13Speaker 2: That was the cauldron in.
- 24:14Speaker 12: Which a unified, shared national identity was formed. They went
- 24:18Speaker 12: through a depression together, they went through world wars together,
- 24:22Speaker 12: They landed on the moon together. This great period of
- 24:25Speaker 12: American history happened at a time when there was negative migration.
- 24:28Speaker 12: They don't teach that to our kids in school, and frankly,
- 24:31Speaker 12: I would submit very few politicians serving in Congress probably
- 24:34Speaker 12: know that.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Will very few politicians in Washington serving know that as well.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Going back to talking about the nineteen twenty four Act
- 24:45Speaker 1: is a good example. As he described it, he wasn't
- 24:48Speaker 1: done there by the way. Stephen Miller also talking about
- 24:52Speaker 1: Somalia specifically. Now again, if you talk about Somalia and saying, hey,
- 24:57Speaker 1: maybe we need to cut back or we need to
- 24:59Speaker 1: look at what we've done here in this country and
- 25:02Speaker 1: how many people are letting in from Somalia, you will
- 25:04Speaker 1: immediately be called a bigot and or a racist for
- 25:06Speaker 1: even trying to have the conversation. I want you to
- 25:09Speaker 1: hear what Stephen had to say about what we're finding
- 25:12Speaker 1: out about what may be one of the biggest frauds
- 25:14Speaker 1: we've ever seen with a number of people coming into
- 25:18Speaker 1: this country from Somalia.
- 25:19Speaker 2: Listen, I can have as long as I'm willing to
- 25:21Speaker 2: work for. That's the American drill.
- 25:24Speaker 11: My next guest has been a driving force behind President
- 25:27Speaker 11: Trump's immigration policies. He is White House Deputy Chief of Staff.
- 25:30Speaker 5: For Policy, Steven Miller.
- 25:32Speaker 2: Stephen, great to see you.
- 25:33Speaker 11: You know, the interesting thing about hearing from a guy
- 25:35Speaker 11: like Geene Simmons right there and what he had to say,
- 25:37Speaker 11: when you do talk to someone who is either the
- 25:39Speaker 11: child or the direct legal immigrants United States, they often
- 25:43Speaker 11: share that type of love of America, wherein when we
- 25:47Speaker 11: look at in a legal population, you don't often hear
- 25:50Speaker 11: that same type of patriotism.
- 25:53Speaker 12: Well, first of all, thank you for having this conversation.
- 25:55Speaker 5: Will.
- 25:56Speaker 12: I think there's been an incredible lack of honest, truthful
- 25:59Speaker 12: candidate conversation in American media for a very long time
- 26:04Speaker 12: about immigration policy.
- 26:05Speaker 2: And you're right, of course that immigrants.
- 26:07Speaker 12: Who come here legally engage in an act of spite
- 26:10Speaker 12: against America from the moment they crossed that border and
- 26:13Speaker 12: then continue to break our laws and flat our system
- 26:16Speaker 12: and defy our rules every single day they're here and
- 26:19Speaker 12: continue to plunder and pillage off the system, and of
- 26:22Speaker 12: course their children as a result of so called birthrights citizenship,
- 26:25Speaker 12: which is the greatest scam in history, get unlimited welfare
- 26:28Speaker 12: for life that goes to the benefit of legal alien parents.
- 26:31Speaker 12: But I want to address your monologue specifically about the
- 26:34Speaker 12: nineteen sixty five Immigration Act and what that means in
- 26:37Speaker 12: American history. So, during the Civil rights era, and this
- 26:42Speaker 12: is the simple so way I can put it, there
- 26:43Speaker 12: was a thought, in effect. You can go back and
- 26:46Speaker 12: you can read the transcripts of the debate at the
- 26:47Speaker 12: time of applying civil rights to immigration policy for the
- 26:52Speaker 12: globe and to create a civil right for people from
- 26:56Speaker 12: every part of the world to come to America in.
- 26:59Speaker 2: Every growing numbers.
- 27:01Speaker 12: And so a system that for years, as you mentioned,
- 27:03Speaker 12: had been tightly restricted, suddenly established this global ability of
- 27:07Speaker 12: people in every part of the world to come to America,
- 27:11Speaker 12: to bring their families to America, and then eventually empty
- 27:14Speaker 12: out their entire towns and their entire villages to the
- 27:17Speaker 12: United States of America. And so what you saw between
- 27:20Speaker 12: nineteen sixty five and today was the single largest experiment
- 27:25Speaker 12: on a society, on a civilization that had ever been
- 27:27Speaker 12: conducted in human history. Not just the seventy six million
- 27:31Speaker 12: immigrants that were brought in, largely from the Third World,
- 27:35Speaker 12: but their descendants too.
- 27:36Speaker 2: So you see with a lot.
- 27:37Speaker 12: Of these immigrant groups, not only is the first generation
- 27:40Speaker 12: unsuccessful against Somaldia as a clear example here, not only
- 27:44Speaker 12: is the first generation unsuccessful, but you see persistent issues
- 27:48Speaker 12: in every subsequent generation. So you see consistent high rates
- 27:53Speaker 12: of welfare use, consistent high rates of criminal activity, consistent
- 27:57Speaker 12: failures to assimilate. But they shouldn't be a surprise, will
- 28:00Speaker 12: It's just common sense. If Somaldians cannot make Somalia successful,
- 28:06Speaker 12: why would we think that the track will be any
- 28:08Speaker 12: different in the United States? Go third world country by
- 28:11Speaker 12: third world country. No one's saying, look, there are people
- 28:14Speaker 12: all over the world that are great people, But you
- 28:16Speaker 12: look at the society. If Libya keeps failing, if the
- 28:21Speaker 12: Central African Republic keeps failing, if Somalia keeps failing, right,
- 28:26Speaker 12: if these societies all over the world continue to fail,
- 28:30Speaker 12: you have to ask yourself, if you bring those societies
- 28:33Speaker 12: into our country and then give them unlimited, free welfare
- 28:37Speaker 12: what do we think is gonna happen. You're going to
- 28:40Speaker 12: replicate the conditions that they left over and over and
- 28:43Speaker 12: over again, and we mask the impact of immigration every
- 28:46Speaker 12: public policy issue we discuss. We talk about test scores
- 28:50Speaker 12: will if you subtract immigration out of test scores, all
- 28:54Speaker 12: of a sudden, our test scores skyrocket. If you subtract
- 28:58Speaker 12: immigration out of healthcare, all of a sudden, we don't
- 29:02Speaker 12: have nearly the size of the healthcare challenges our country faces.
- 29:05Speaker 12: If you subtract immigration out of public safety, all of
- 29:08Speaker 12: a sudden, we don't have violent crime in so many
- 29:11Speaker 12: of our cities. Issue after issue, we talk about these
- 29:14Speaker 12: things that just they just happen to us. The schools
- 29:16Speaker 12: just suddenly fail by the crime just suddenly explodes, the
- 29:19Speaker 12: deficit just suddenly skyrockets. These are a result of social
- 29:23Speaker 12: policy choices that we made through immigration.
- 29:26Speaker 1: You notice what he said, and if you listen to
- 29:29Speaker 1: how he said it, he said, Look, we need legal
- 29:31Speaker 1: immigration because illegal immigration is completely underminding.
- 29:34Speaker 2: People are doing it the right way. That is important.
- 29:37Speaker 2: And number two, you have to look at the issue safety.
- 29:40Speaker 1: That is a conversation that everyone that's in this country
- 29:42Speaker 1: deserves to have that conversation and why would we do
- 29:46Speaker 1: something there's hurting Americans that are in this country, including
- 29:50Speaker 1: immigrants who have come to this country on a multitude
- 29:53Speaker 1: of issues as basic as.
- 29:55Speaker 2: Housing and jobs.
- 29:57Speaker 1: These are the conversations that need to be had because
- 30:00Speaker 1: all of this is coming as a former ICE official
- 30:05Speaker 1: has now blown the whistle saying Somali immigration to the
- 30:09Speaker 1: US marked the greatest refugee fraud crisis in modern times.
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