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Major Hostage Deal: 50 Israeli Women & Children to be Freed, but Hamas Given Time and Fuel to Rebuild, plus Biden's Woke War on 'Racist Roads' · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is verdict of Center Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: many of you are going to be on the road
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  Speaker 2: as you're listening to this. Be safe with your family
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  Speaker 2: over Thanksgiving. And there is some good news. There are
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  Speaker 2: is a ceasefire that has been announced. Israel has approved
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  Speaker 2: a ceasefire with Hamas. We're being told that fifty hostages
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  Speaker 2: are set to be released. Senator, this is obviously a
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  Speaker 2: significant movement. They're saying it would be a five day ceasefire.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us everything that you know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the Israeli cabinet announced this yesterday and it is
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  Speaker 3: a deal that they have negotiated with Hamas that Hamas
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  Speaker 3: has committed to releasing fifty hostages, women and children. Israelis
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  Speaker 3: that they captured and that's reason to celebrate. I have
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  Speaker 3: to tell you I have sat down with multiple family
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  Speaker 3: members of hostages who were taken in Israel, and it
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  Speaker 3: is truly horrific. Over two hundred hostages were taken and
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  Speaker 3: every one of them right now is praying that their
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  Speaker 3: loved ones, that their wives, their mothers, their daughters, their
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  Speaker 3: children are among the fifty.
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  Speaker 1: That are set to be released. That is a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the Israeli war cabinet debated for five hours about
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  Speaker 3: whether to do this, and the reason they debated for
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  Speaker 3: five hours is any time that you are negotiating in
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  Speaker 3: exchange for hostages, you are giving up significant things, and
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  Speaker 3: that there are serious downsides to this deal. But the
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  Speaker 3: Israeli government has decided it's in their interest to make
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  Speaker 3: this deal. The downsides are as follows number one, and
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  Speaker 3: in exchange for the fifty hostages being released, Israel has
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  Speaker 3: apparently committed to releasing one hundred and fifty Palestinians that
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  Speaker 3: are in jail, and according to the terms of the agreement,
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  Speaker 3: the Palestinians being least are also women and children. Now,
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  Speaker 3: on the face of it, Israel doesn't take hostages, so
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  Speaker 3: these are not civilians that were taken as hostages, but
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  Speaker 3: rather they are criminals who were arrested for committing crimes,
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  Speaker 3: and presumably crimes directly related to terrorism. And so even
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  Speaker 3: though they are described as children, we have not as
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  Speaker 3: have yet seen the list of the one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: fifty Palestinians to be released, and Hamas with regularity, uses
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  Speaker 3: teenagers uses sixteen seventeen year olds to commit acts of terrorism,
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  Speaker 3: so it is entirely possible that among those one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty being released are a number of people who
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  Speaker 3: have been terrorist and who, upon being released, will return
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  Speaker 3: to being terrorist fighting with Hamas. We don't know that
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  Speaker 3: for sure, but that is a very likely risk. In addition,
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  Speaker 3: under the terms of the agreement, Israel is engaging in
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  Speaker 3: a four day pause in fighting in Gaza, and so
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  Speaker 3: it is stopping. Israel has been making major advances in
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  Speaker 3: Gaza working to eliminate Hamas. The four day pause is
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  Speaker 3: going to give Hamas time to restock, time to rebuild,
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  Speaker 3: time to get stronger. And as a component of this deal,
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  Speaker 3: Israel agreed to allow roughly three hundred AID trucks per
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  Speaker 3: day into Gaza from Egypt. Now included in those AID
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  Speaker 3: trucks will be fuel trucks, and that fuel will be
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  Speaker 3: a significant benefit for Hamas. Hamas. Right now, many of
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  Speaker 3: the Hamas terrorists are are hiding in tunnels in Gaza,
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  Speaker 3: and those tunnels are are kept lighted and kept ventilated
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  Speaker 3: using generators, and so they need the fuel to stay
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  Speaker 3: in the tunnels to evade capture, to an evade being
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  Speaker 3: taken out by the Israeli military, and so allowing that
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  Speaker 3: much fuel to flow into Gaza enables Hamas to be stronger,
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  Speaker 3: and so the consequence of this is it is going
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  Speaker 3: to be more difficult to follow through on Israel's stated commitment,
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  Speaker 3: a commitment that I believe is critical that they follow
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  Speaker 3: through on to utterly eliminate Hamas because Hamas will become stronger.
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  Speaker 3: But that being said, fifty hostages coming home is a big,
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  Speaker 3: big deal, and so we should celebrate fifty hostages coming home.
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  Speaker 2: When you talk about what this means for the future,
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be some people that are going to
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  Speaker 2: be very concerned over Okay, does this incentivize terrorist organizations,
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  Speaker 2: not just Hamas but others to start taking hostages because
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  Speaker 2: then you can use them to your advantage in the future.
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  Speaker 2: When you know we've had a quote unquote policy if
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  Speaker 2: we do not negotiate with hostages and with terrorists. Yet
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  Speaker 2: clearly this administration and Biden administration has done that. We
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  Speaker 2: saw it with Iran. We've also seen it with what
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  Speaker 2: happened in Russia. For example, when we decided that we
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  Speaker 2: would get back a NBA player but leave another man
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  Speaker 2: over in Russia in that trade for the merchant of death.
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  Speaker 2: This concerns me obviously from that perspective, from a national
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  Speaker 2: security standpoint, for Americans, your reaction from that perspective.
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  Speaker 3: So, look, of course, it incentivizes the taking of hostages.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the tragedies this is what happens when
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  Speaker 3: terrorists take hostages, is that it forces individuals and families.
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  Speaker 3: It forces countries to make bad decisions and to make
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  Speaker 3: sometimes terrible deals. Now, sometimes the deals are really terrible,
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  Speaker 3: such as the Biden administration giving six billion dollars for
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  Speaker 3: five American hostages, basically setting a bounty of one point
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  Speaker 3: two billion dollars per American you take hostage. We don't
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  Speaker 3: know if among these these fifty hostages being released, if
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  Speaker 3: any of them are Americans. We do know that Hamas
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  Speaker 3: on October seventh, and in the aftermath of it, murdered
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  Speaker 3: thirty one Americans. We know roughly a dozen Americans are
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  Speaker 3: held hostage. We don't know if any of these hostages
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  Speaker 3: being released are Americans. But yes, and and and I
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  Speaker 3: will say, look, Israel has has been in this situation before.
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  Speaker 3: When you when you're fighting terrorists and they're taking hostages,
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  Speaker 3: Israel is engaged in hostage negotiations. Israel is engaged in
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  Speaker 3: prisoner exchanges before and then that's part of being a
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  Speaker 3: nation at war. But I'm sure it is why the
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  Speaker 3: Israeli War Cabinet debated and debated for five hours and
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  Speaker 3: and and I'm sure this was not an easy decision,
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  Speaker 3: uh And and it was not an easy decision because
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  Speaker 3: because it does incentivize it does incentivize the taking of hostages.
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  Speaker 3: In terms of the war cabinet, only three members of
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  Speaker 3: the War Cabinet voted no. They were all ministers of
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  Speaker 3: the Jewish Power Party, which is which is in Israeli
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  Speaker 3: politics on the far right. There were another three ministers
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  Speaker 3: of the religious Religious Zionist Party who before the meeting
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  Speaker 3: said they were going to vote no, and they changed
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  Speaker 3: their position after hearing from the heads of the security
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  Speaker 3: services who recommended approving the deal. And and and I
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  Speaker 3: know everyone in the Israeli government wrestled with this because,
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  Speaker 3: as I said, this will may come as stronger. That
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  Speaker 3: is a bad thing. But when fifty women and children
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  Speaker 3: come home and hug their moms and dads, and hug
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  Speaker 3: their brothers and sisters and and and hug their their
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  Speaker 3: their husbands, that is an incredible thing. And that that
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  Speaker 3: that is worth celebrating now. At the same time, while
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  Speaker 3: we are celebrating the return of fifty hostages, we need
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  Speaker 3: to remember that there are between one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 3: and two hundred additional hostages that are still being held.
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  Speaker 3: And Prime Minister net Yahoo has said that if Hamas
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  Speaker 3: continues releasing hostages that he will extend the pause in
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  Speaker 3: the invasion of Gaza, and he will extend it at
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  Speaker 3: a rate of ten hostages per day. So Hamas can
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  Speaker 3: buy additional time by releasing hostages, and there's a trade off.
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  Speaker 3: That's a horrible trade off, but it's worth remembering. Ben
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  Speaker 3: Israel laid out two objectives in the days immediately following
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  Speaker 3: October seventh. Number one was get the hostages back, get
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  Speaker 3: them home, and this accomplishes a significant step towards that
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  Speaker 3: there are still far too many hostages, but fifty hostages
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  Speaker 3: coming home is a major step forward. But secondly, Israel
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  Speaker 3: pledged to utterly and completely eliminate Hamas. That was the
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  Speaker 3: right thing to do, and I will say I very
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  Speaker 3: much hope that as this deal goes into effect that
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  Speaker 3: we know we will see the global community and all
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  Speaker 3: of the left and all of the global press and
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  Speaker 3: all of the the woke press leaning on Israel not
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  Speaker 3: to resume the invasion of Gaza, not to resume trying
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  Speaker 3: to take out Hamas. And I very much fear the
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  Speaker 3: Biden White House will will be the loudest among those
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  Speaker 3: voices saying okay, enough, don't go after Hamas anymore. And
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  Speaker 3: I think it will be incumbent on all of us
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  Speaker 3: to say, once the four day agreed period is over,
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  Speaker 3: once Amasa is stopped releasing hostages, Israel needs to finish
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  Speaker 3: the taskt set out of eliminating Hamas.
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  Speaker 2: they come up with the fifty people that would be selected?
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  Speaker 1: Was that coming from the Israeli side? Do we know that?
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  Speaker 2: And then what is the total number of American hostages
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  Speaker 2: at this point, what is that number count that we
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  Speaker 2: have so far that are still waiting.
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  Speaker 3: So on the second point, we don't have a firm number.
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  Speaker 3: We know thirty one Americans were killed. We believe roughly
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  Speaker 3: a dozen Americans were taken hostage. To date, four hostages
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  Speaker 3: have been released, two of them were Americans, two of
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  Speaker 3: them were Israelis. So we assume there are about ten
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  Speaker 3: American hostages still in captivity. Some of them may be killed.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know the status of them, and we don't
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  Speaker 3: have an exact count, but it is in It is
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  Speaker 3: in the range of ten American hostages and two who
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  Speaker 3: have already been released and thirty one who were murdered
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  Speaker 3: on October seventh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I want to ask you also about some of
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  Speaker 2: the videos that have been coming out, and I think
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  Speaker 2: it's really important that we highlight this because so many
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  Speaker 2: center in the media have been refusing to talk about this.
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  Speaker 2: And that is the extensive tunnel system that now clearly
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  Speaker 2: is under the hospital in Gaza. And also now we
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  Speaker 2: know that some of these hostages were taken to that
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  Speaker 2: hospital after they were taken hostage. It is very clear,
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  Speaker 2: it's obvious that this hospital in Gaza that everyone had
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  Speaker 2: heard about the apparently Israel bomb which didn't actually happen,
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  Speaker 2: has clearly been used in essence like a base for
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  Speaker 2: hamas a human shield for Hamas. And the tunnel system
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  Speaker 2: which they have now been able to find that is
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  Speaker 2: going in and out that hospital is incredibly an intensive
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  Speaker 2: underground network, and some of this fuel, like you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: goes directly to turning those lights on in the ventilation
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  Speaker 2: of that tunnel system which Israel has found and is
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  Speaker 2: obviously trying to get rid of.
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  Speaker 3: That is exactly right. And listen, this has been a
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  Speaker 3: point that has been true for a long time. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: nine years ago in twenty fourteen, I wrote an op
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  Speaker 3: ed that was entitled a Tale of two hospitals, one
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  Speaker 3: in Israel, one in Gaza, and I'll read you the
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  Speaker 3: beginning of that op ed I wrote on July thirtieth,
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  Speaker 3: or twenty fourteen. If you want to judge a nation,
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  Speaker 3: look at how it treats its most vulnerable civilians. Hospitals
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  Speaker 3: are a good place to Startah the largest hospital in
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  Speaker 3: Gaza is housed in a converted British Army barracks, some
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty six miles north is Israel's Ziv
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  Speaker 3: Medical Center in Zafat. Hamas, which controls Gaza, is using
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  Speaker 3: the civilian population as human shields. The terrorist group has
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  Speaker 3: placed its missiles in schools and mosques, and even more
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  Speaker 3: deplorably burrowed its command center underneath the Al Shifa hospital.
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  Speaker 3: Hamas's activities are taking place in plain sight. Just two
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  Speaker 3: weeks ago, and mind you, this was back in twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 3: the Washington Post described Al Shifa as a quote de
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  Speaker 3: facto headquarters for Hamas leaders. These terrorist facilities are of
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  Speaker 3: course well known not only to the foreign journalists who
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  Speaker 3: interview Hamas fighters there, but also to the Israelis, who
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  Speaker 3: would by necessity consider such a location a legitimate target
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  Speaker 3: for any action against Hamas. However, the terrorist group has
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  Speaker 3: tried to immunize their headquarters by digging it under a hospital,
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  Speaker 3: leaving Israel no option but to target Al Shifa if
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  Speaker 3: they want to get rid of the Hamas terrorist leadership. Now,
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  Speaker 3: as you noted, we've seen those videos. Now it's that
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  Speaker 3: same hospital Al Shifa, and we've now seen the videos
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  Speaker 3: of the tunnels going under that hospital. And they do
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  Speaker 3: it deliberately because they're trying to place the IDF in
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  Speaker 3: an impossible choice. Either you don't target the headquarters, in
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  Speaker 3: which case the terrorists continue to flourish and wage war
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  Speaker 3: and plot murder of civilians, or the IDF does target
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  Speaker 3: the headquarters, and if they did it using bombs, the
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  Speaker 3: result would be hundreds of dead Palestinians, the women and
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  Speaker 3: children who are patients in the hospital that Hamas is
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  Speaker 3: using as human shields. What happened Israel did not bomb
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  Speaker 3: the hospital, but the IDF forces have gone in the
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  Speaker 3: ground forces and they've exposed the headquarters that was there.
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  Speaker 3: And that's precisely how Hamas uses Palestinians, hoping that they
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  Speaker 3: will be casualties of war, because they then know that
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  Speaker 3: the useful idiots in the media will use those casualties
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  Speaker 3: of war to demonize and undermine the state of Israel.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at moving forward with this war, it
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  Speaker 2: seems to me, and I may be wrong, but it
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  Speaker 2: seems like we are far from the end of this
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  Speaker 2: and that's because of Israel's stated objective and that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: seem to be changing because of this hostage negotiation. This
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  Speaker 2: ceased fire for four days, and again you mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 2: you can extend that by releasing ten more hostages each
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  Speaker 2: day if Hamas wants to do that. Obviously, Hamas is
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  Speaker 2: going to use this time, as you say, to basically
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  Speaker 2: replenish their supplies and reorganize. And that's bad for Israel,
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  Speaker 2: that's bad for anyone that agreees that terrorism is wrong
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  Speaker 2: and evil. But you look at the reality of this,
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  Speaker 2: there is still a lot that has to be accomplished
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  Speaker 2: to get rid of Hamas, and the words of Netanyahu,
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to stop until this is over. I
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  Speaker 2: think people need to kind of have a mentality of
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  Speaker 2: this isn't a week away from finishing or two weeks away.
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  Speaker 2: This is still going to take some time. This is
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  Speaker 2: dismantling a massive terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in all likelihood, this war is going to take
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  Speaker 3: a matter of months. It's going to be an extended operation,
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  Speaker 3: in particular because Hamas is burrowed in. It's burrowed in
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  Speaker 3: in the midst of civilian targets. They deliberately are in hospitals,
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  Speaker 3: they deliberately are in schools, they are deliberately in the tunnels.
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  Speaker 3: And as a result of three hundred trucks a day
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  Speaker 3: coming in, including fuel trucks, they're going to replenish their
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  Speaker 3: fuel supplies, which means they can stay in the underground tunnel.
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  Speaker 3: Some of the tunnels the Israelis have discovered, others they
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  Speaker 3: have not. It's very hard to locate a tunnel that
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  Speaker 3: is buried underneath a dense urban environment. We also know
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  Speaker 3: that in the coming days and weeks, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: see continued propaganda. You know, one episode we did of
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  Speaker 3: Verdict last week, we show this was one of the
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  Speaker 3: video episodes that we did on YouTube, and we showed
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  Speaker 3: video of an individual that appears to be a crisis actor,
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  Speaker 3: and there are multiple instances of him essentially working for
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  Speaker 3: Hamas and pretending to be all sorts of different characters
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  Speaker 3: in Gaza, from hospital workers to an injured person to
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  Speaker 3: a dead person. And he's put out multiple videos where
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  Speaker 3: he miraculously is pushing forward the Hamas propaganda in every instance.
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  Speaker 3: And he put out the raw footage that was designed
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  Speaker 3: to show the horrible atrocities carried out by the Israelis.
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  Speaker 3: And as we pointed out, multiple news entities including CBS
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  Speaker 3: picked up his footage and ran at his news and
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  Speaker 3: they just identified the source as quote social media. It's
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  Speaker 3: not difficult to find out that this guy is widely
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  Speaker 3: considered a fraud online. But yet the narrative fit the
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  Speaker 3: story that CBS and and the fake media wanted to tell.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the astonishing aftermaths of that is after
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: we put out our verdict, YouTube censored our podcast. And
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: in particular, if you want to watch that episode, if
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  Speaker 3: you just try to click on YouTube and you're not
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: logged in, it will not let you watch that episode.
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  Speaker 3: your age, so if you're under eighteen, you're not allowed
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  Speaker 3: to give it to watch that episode, and it gives
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  Speaker 3: a warning of graphic content and listen. The result of
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  Speaker 3: that is substantially throttling the number of people who can
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  Speaker 3: see that episode. And it is an instance, it is
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: a powerful instance of what I talk about in my
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: new book that just came out on Woke, how to
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: defeat the cultural Marxism in America, where you have big
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  Speaker 3: tech shilling for the corporate media, because neither big tech
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  Speaker 3: the corruption we see. By the way YouTube to date
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  Speaker 3: still hasn't fixed it, so it is right now age
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  Speaker 3: gated on YouTube. The irony is they claim it's violent content.
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  Speaker 3: We're literally showing a CBS News broadcast. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: they agegate CBS News. And in fact, the content, by
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  Speaker 3: all appearances, appears to be fake. So it is fake
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  Speaker 3: violence that happen to be shown on CBS News that
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  Speaker 3: CBS News won't admit is likely fake. And yet YouTube
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  Speaker 3: says we're going to live with the number of people
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  Speaker 3: who can see this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: When this happened, you and I were texting each other
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: and honestly in shock.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: We're exposing this and now they want to just silence,
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  Speaker 1: This is a perfect example of it.
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  Speaker 3: And Ben, you know, it's striking. We've been doing Verdict
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  Speaker 3: now for several years. This is the first instance that
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  Speaker 3: YouTube has stepped forward and blocked our content. So we've
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  Speaker 3: laid out in Verdict in this podcast evidence that the
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  Speaker 3: COVID virus escaped from a Chinese lab from the Wuhan
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  Speaker 3: Institute for Virology. This was the same time that Twitter
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: and Facebook were suppressing anyone making that point. For whatever reason,
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  Speaker 3: YouTube did not block our early podcast even though we
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: were getting a lot of viewers that were watching it.
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  Speaker 3: And we've talked a lot about taking on the corruption
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: of Washington, and every every episode we've done it says
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: something that this is the first one they blocked. And
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I think it's the combination that big tech is all
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: in with the corporate media in driving their cultural Marxist
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: narrative that Israel are the bad guys and the Hamas
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: terrorists are the oppressed victims, and anything that gets away
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: in the way of that narrative, they're more than willing
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: to abuse their power. It relates to, you know, the
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: same episode we talked about TikTok and the trending videos
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  Speaker 3: on tik tac of young people praising Osama bin Laden,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: which sadly the CCP is aggressively pushing. On one level,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: you can understand why the Chinese communists are doing that.
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  Speaker 3: How harmful that is. But YouTube is ostensibly an American
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: country company. Why is YouTube doing that?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the question you have to ask is is
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: it just because they want to silence and censor respeech
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  Speaker 2: and specifically do they want to censor views they disagree with.
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  Speaker 2: That's my takeaway from this because I don't believe that
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  Speaker 2: this was an accident at all. This was us taking
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  Speaker 2: a stand, showing people what's happening and letting people know
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  Speaker 2: that there are these crisis actors on the side of
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  Speaker 2: the terraces that are working for hamas and they can't
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  Speaker 2: stand for that narrative to get out there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if it was an accident, it is possible that
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: their algorithms flagged it because it is images that are purported,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: although we believe these are fake images purported to be
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: of people with what appears to be blood on them,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: screaming after a rocket attack. Now, as I said, CBS
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: News aired it, and and oddly enough, YouTube doesn't block
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: CBS News. But I could envision an algorithm that captured
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: someone's screaming covered with blood and blocks it initially. But
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: this is at the point. Now it's been some time,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: there been multiple news stories on this, and if it
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: were caught initially by the algorithm, a human being could
• 24:06
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• 24:09
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  Speaker 3: Either way, YouTube and Google which owns YouTube, have culpability
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  Speaker 2: going to be on the road listening to this episode,
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  Speaker 2: going to spend time with their family over Thanksgiving. And
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: there is something that happened this week that people I'm
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: sure missed, and that is Biden's infrastructure spending has now
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: gone woke. It's a great moment to pause and remind people.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: If you're Black Friday shopping, grab the Center's new book, Unwoke.
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  Speaker 1: You can grab it. It's a best seller.
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  Speaker 2: You can get on Amazon or wherever you get your books,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: unless you're a bookstore in California. Apparently they don't like
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: it very much out there in California in the bookstores.
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  Speaker 2: But you can grab it wherever you get your books.
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  Speaker 2: I love this part of censorship. By the way Center.
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  Speaker 2: There are quite a few bookstores. I've actually talked to
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  Speaker 2: friends who have gone into bookstores. Your book's a bestseller,
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  Speaker 2: and if you're in the wrong part of the country,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: in a more liberal, woke part of the country, there's
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: a very good chance you cannot find a hard copy
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: of your book in a bookstore, which is maddening to me,
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  Speaker 2: especially since it is a bestseller.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Well, it is one of the many examples how corporate
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  Speaker 3: America is woke.
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  Speaker 1: As you know.
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  Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, I was in LA to shoot Bill
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Maher and talk about the book, and I actually met
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: some friends in LA who went to try to buy
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  Speaker 3: the book. And they went to a Barnes and Noble
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  Speaker 3: in LA and they didn't have a single copy of
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  Speaker 3: the book there, and they asked them, okay, search the system,
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  Speaker 3: and they it turned out there was not one copy
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  Speaker 3: of my book. This is what they were told in
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  Speaker 3: any Barnes and Noble in the entire city of Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 3: And they had to actually drive the Long Beach, which
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: they did to get several copies of the books, because
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: it was only the Barnes and Noble and Long Beach
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: that had the copies, and throughout LA they weren't there. Sadly,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: we're hearing we're hearing reports of that. There was also
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: a letter to the editor this past week in the
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Dallas Morning News, complaining that the big box stores which
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: have lots and lots of books of other books that
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: you can't find unwoke, even though, as you noted, is
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: it is a best seller. It was at the top
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: of the best seller list. And yet the major bricks
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: and mortar retail outlets are very reluctant to carry it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: And when they do carry it, they certainly don't put
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: it out on the table in front. They put it
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: off in the back. The good news is you can
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: order it online, so I would encourage you go online
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and order it. And you mentioned what came out this
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: past week, and what came out this past week also
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: is is racist roads and woke infrastructure, which may sound absurd,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: but it's something I discuss at considerable length in the
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: book on Woke and In June, Transportation Secretary Pete bootage
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Edge announced that the Department of Transportation it started accepting
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: applications for the National Infrastructure Project Assistance, Infrastructure for Rebuilding America,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: and the Rural Surface Transportation Grant Programs. These three programs
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: together received five point six billion dollars under the so
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: called Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act and the Department of
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Transportation under bodhage Edge said the grants that would be
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: awarded would support quote transformational infrastructure projects across the nation.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: But the Notice of funding opportunity issued states that recipients
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: must broadly address quote equity and climate concerns. And further,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: it says, quote projects that have not sufficiently considered the
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: equity and barriers to opportunity in their planning as determined
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: by the Department, will be required to do so before
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: receiving funds for construction. Quote. Projects that have not sufficiently
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: considered climate change and environmental justice in their planning, as
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: determined by the Department, will be required to do so
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: before receiving funds for construction. Now, mind you, what they're
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: saying is if you're actually building roads, if you're actually
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: building freeways, then that is not sufficient. And in fact,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Pete buddhage Edge made news in twenty twenty one when
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: he said, quote there is racism physically built into some
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: of our high way ways. Now. Now, now that is idiotic.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: And and I would note that that that the DOT
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: grants also additionally target so DOT policies frame road building.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Here's what they call roadbuilding quote increasing automobile dependence, and
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: so they condemn highway expansion projects that don't involve electric
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: vehicle charging stations or bike lane. So it is Remember
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: there was a lot of hooplah over all the money
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: to be spent on infrastructure and roads and bridges. Oh yeah, Well,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: it turns out Joe Biden and Kamala Harrison, Pete Budah
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Jedge don't actually want roads and bridges. Instead, they have
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: a woke agenda. No, here's the good news, which is
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: that that I sent I sent a request for a
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: determination as to whether this this announcement constitutes a rule. Uh,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: and receive that determination, which means that it is subject
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: to being overturned by Congress by a simple majority vote.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: And so I intend to introduce that resolution of disapproval
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: to force a vote in the Senate. Now Biden can
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: veto that vote. But in the Senate, we're going to
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: see if all the people who trumpeted the infrastructure programs
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: support blocking them from going to roads and bridges unless
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: they are sufficiently woke and fighting racist roads, whatever the
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: hell that is.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: When people hear this and they hear racist roads as
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: you just described it there, and you talk about billions
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: upon billions of taxpayers dollars that's meant for these infrastructure
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: projects that are now just being turned in these woken
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: agenda items. How many members of Congress are behind this
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: as well? Because yes, it's a Biden administration initiative, but
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: you're still got to have some Congress people behind you.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Is this just the part of now where we are
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: in politics, where they look at you, they'll say this
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: is for infrastructure, straight up, wye to you, and then
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: waste billions of your dollars on woke agenda items like this.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, a lot of the left wing Democrats in
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Congress are emphatically behind this, so that Bernie Sanders, the
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warrens, theoc's are cheering this on because this is
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: the agenda they want. I will say there are a
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: number of Republicans who you know, are a little bit
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: like Charlie Brown with Lucy and the football. They listen
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: to Democrats who say, okay, let's work together on something
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: like roads and bridges, and the Republicans are like, oh
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: yea yeah, roads and bridges. Those sound really good, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: they right into law funding for roads and bridges. Now,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: the left wing Democrats they're negotiating with know fully well,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: they're pulling the football away and Charlie Brown is landing
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: on his ass. They know that, but these Republicans are
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: just gullible and they fall into it over and over
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: and over again. And if they weren't going, they would
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: have written into the statute prohibitions on the Biden administration
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: doing this, because you and I knew the Biden administration
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  Speaker 3: was going to do this, because that's who they are.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: They are cultural Marxist. It's why I wrote the book
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  Speaker 3: Unwoke to lay out what it means the radicals who
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: have taken over our government. And we have too many
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Republicans in Congress who are fundamentally naive, and they just
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: keep running and trying to kick that football, and the
• 34:29
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  Speaker 2: is gonna be great news with these these fifty that
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: are going to be released, but there are many others
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: that are going to be in anguish because their loved
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: ones were not released by these terrasts. So make sure
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: you say a special prayer for them and the Senator
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: and I will see you back here in a couple
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: of days