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Hello everybody, welcome back to the Lila Rose Show.
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We are diving in with our weekly roundup.
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We did not do one last week our live last week because I was in
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Washington DC for a number of meetings, including with the
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administration and Secretary of HHSRFK, Robert F Kennedy.
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Also for the wonderful March for Life, 100,000 people marching
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out in the cold in DC for life. It was so beautiful and amazing.
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Today we're going to be tackling, yes, what happened.
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I'm going to share some behind the scenes of what happened in
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DC. We're also going to be talking
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about ICE. Our ICE deportation is humane.
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And what is my take right now and what's happening in
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Minnesota and Minneapolis? What is the Christian
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perspective on all of this? What is fact versus fiction?
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There's a lot of media narratives spinning everywhere.
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It is out of control. You open social media and there
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is somebody shouting about this issue.
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I hope to bring some facts that I think are really important for
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us all to look at and a perspective that I believe is
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rooted in our faith. And then finally, Meghan
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Trainer, celebrity Meghan Trainer has a beautiful family.
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Congratulations to her. There's a new beautiful baby in
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her family via surrogacy. So I'm going to unpack that and
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why I think it matters because this is a new trend among the
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elites today is to use surrogacy to build their families.
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Welcome back to the Lila Rose show.
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All right, so I also will be keeping my eye on the chat, so
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please feel free to weigh in. I love hearing from you guys.
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We will do some questions and comments from the chat towards
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the end of the episode, so please include them.
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All right, everybody. So what is happening right now
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with Minnesota? What is happening in
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Minneapolis? I'm sure unless you've been
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living under a rock, you have seen news stories about this and
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maybe you already feel passionately about this.
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And I think it's good to feel passionately about this because
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it matters. It matters how we secure our
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borders. It matters how we treat
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immigrants. It matters how our law
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enforcement and our federal agents are treated.
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It's matters how those federal agents and law enforcement treat
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people. All of these things matter,
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which why people are so hotly debating it and feel so strongly
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about it. So what I want to do first is
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something maybe a little bit different.
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I want to paint some of the factual background that this
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issue that underlies this issue. I think these facts help put
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into perspective what is happening in the midst of all of
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the inflamed emotions and again, understandably inflamed.
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So let's take a step back and look at just kind of globally
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immigration for just a moment. Immigration with regards to
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illegal entry, people that enter countries illegally, immigration
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with regards to, of course, our country in the history of
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illegal immigration and the the treatment of the past few
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administrations of illegal immigration and of our border.
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So first of all, I think it's important to note that here's a
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map out here that's so interesting.
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It's important to note that it is the case for most nations
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today to have punishment for illegally entering their
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country. So this is exceedingly normal
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that countries have rule of law around their borders, they have
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borders that they secure and they have punishments for people
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who enter their country illegally.
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If you've been to a country in Europe and you needed permission
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to be there, there as an example, that country has laws
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that govern who can enter the nation, right, Their nation.
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There are countries that these are countries that deport.
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These are countries that also many of them detain those that
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are under deportation, potential proceedings.
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And there's other punishments too for illegal entry that
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include fines. So if you look at this map right
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here as an example, most nations in the world do have punishment
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for illegal entry, including deportation, detainment, which
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is what happens often in the United States too, as well as
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fines and other punishments. Most of Europe has this,
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certainly in the United States has this.
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Most countries, many countries in Africa has this.
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So this is exceedingly normal. And the United States of course,
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has it. And that's what's under under
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the debate right now, is the debate right now.
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Are these just, are these proceedings just secondly, what
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is the state of immigration in the United States?
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Well, as of just 2023, it was estimated that there was up to
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14,000,000 undocumented immigrants in the United States.
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Some people are saying now it's 20 million.
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So in the last, under the Biden administration, the borders
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were, you know, left largely unsecured.
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Many people accused the Biden administration of that.
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We had a huge influx of undocumented immigration, of
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illegal immigration into the country.
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Another thing that's really important to note is that
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America is one of the top nations that has illegal
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immigration. So when you look at the kind of
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swath of nations globally and you look at which nations have
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illegal immigration into their country, America is only second
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to one other nation. So I'm going to pull up this map
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here, Harris, if you've got this.
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So if you click on, if you click on illegal immigration rate, the
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second tab, here we go at the top of the document, you got it.
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It says that Russia, according to this 2025 data, Russia has an
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8% illegal immigration rate, very high.
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I don't know if this is the case actually as of today.
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This is in I think in the last two or three years, it's saying
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this is 2026 data. But I'm going to give a little
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nuance. It might be actually immediate
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to January of 2026. the United States has 3%, a 3% illegal
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immigration rate. Malaysia is at 2%, France is at
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less than 2%, South Africa is at 1.5.
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All right, so then you look at the estimated maximum illegal
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immigration population and according to this data, and
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again, this is not perfect data, but you can see roughly the,
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the, the, the ranges here. Russia, it's saying, has 12
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million illegal immigrants, America 11.4.
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Again, that might be as high as 20 million, depending on what
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statistics you're looking at. India is saying 10 million,
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France 1.2, Bangladesh 1.2. I bring this up because I want
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people to understand this is a uniquely intense problem in the
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United States, that we have issues with our border and
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issues with undocumented immigration in our country.
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Now, you might not have to, you know, you'd have to be living
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under a rock and have no sensibility of what's happening
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globally to know why that might be.
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At least one reason why that is, is because America is an
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extremely attractive place to go to.
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And this should be everyone living in the United States
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right now, everyone who is blessed to be an American
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citizen who is able to live in this beautiful country for all
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of our problems. We are so privileged.
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And I want to just take a moment as we're talking about this
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issue that has so many important angles and there's so much to,
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you know, explore about, you know, how do we protect human
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dignity and also rule of law? Just to be grateful to thank God
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that you have the opportunities you have in America.
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And may we all, and I'm going to just say this almost as a prayer
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here, may we all use the freedoms and the security that
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we enjoy in America for the good of other people.
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That's, I mean, our responsibility as certainly for
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us who are Christians right now. And certainly I think the good
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responsibility of any citizen is to use our freedoms for the good
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of other people, to use the gifts we've been given,
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including the security, the economic opportunities for the
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good of other people. And for as hard and as bad as it
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can get for people individually and collectively in the United
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States, we are doing so well. When you compare us at large to
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other nations globally, we have so many freedoms, so many
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blessings. So let's see all of this through
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the lens of, I hope, magnanimity or generosity.
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When we're considering other people who want a piece of
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America, I want a piece of what we have have because we are so
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blessed, we are so privileged. And we should treat that with
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special consideration when we think about how we use our
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lives. And also to respect rule of law,
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because we want to respect our nation's laws and to be grateful
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for the freedoms that we've been given.
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So the reality is illegal immigration is a real problem.
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There's real challenges beyond just the fact of more
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undocumented people here. There is the problem of illegal
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immigrants, immigrants who are committing crime.
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You've heard the horror stories of some of the violent crimes
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that have been committed from people who have come across the
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border illegally. You may have also heard some of
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the horror stories of human trafficking that occurs at our
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border. When there is porous, A porous
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border, you have the coyotes or you have the, you know, gangs
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who are doing the cartels, who are doing drug trafficking, who
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are doing human trafficking. So there is real human cost to
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undocumented immigration to a porous border.
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And this is one of the many reasons why so many people
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support enforcing our immigration policy.
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There is majority support, including among Democrats and
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Republicans, for the deportation of illegal immigrants who are
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violent offenders. That is something that most
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people agree on. So where does the controversy
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come in? The controversy comes in when
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you're dealing with this mass influx of illegal immigration
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like we had under Biden because of a porous border.
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Trump is in office now, and he is now doing mass deportations.
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I want to take a minute to look at what those deportations look
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like and compare them for just a moment to Obama, because Obama
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was the last Democrat president who also did mass deportations.
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He was criticized for it. By the way, some people say, oh,
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nobody criticized Obama for this.
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Yes, he was criticized for it. I know people personally that
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were doing advocacy, see, against Obama at the time for
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his deportation policies. And there was certainly outcry,
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not as much as there is against Trump now, but there was outcry
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about Obama's mass deportation policies.
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Biden didn't have these same policies, so he adjusted
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deportation policies, but it was pretty strong.
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You know, the deportation numbers were very high under
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hundreds of thousands annually under Obama, as they are now
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under Trump. So let's just take a look at
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what does deportation look like both under Obama and Trump.
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Again, this context I think is really important. 5% Let's talk
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about Trump first, according to the Cato Institute, which is a
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pretty bipartisan, nonpartisan institute, pretty libertarian.
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5%, Let's pull up the statistic if you can.
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Harris, 5% of people detained by ICE have violent convictions.
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73% have no convictions. So this is from November 2025.
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So this is the current look at how we're deporting people.
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So most of the people, the large majority of the people who are
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being deported right now do not have violent convictions.
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Now, if you look at Obama, let's just just for context, go back
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to the, you know, eight years of Obama and his administration.
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You can pull up this article here at the New York Times.
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So this is from the New York Times, the source, and I'll just
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say what it says. It says that since 2008, so this
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is under Obama, 2/3 of the immigrants deported from the
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United States committed only minor traffic violations or had
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no criminal record at all. So Obama was deporting 2/3 of
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immigrants with no violent record and another 20%.
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So this was his, you know, the cohort of people that had a
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criminal record, 20% had a criminal record or faced drug
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charges. So it has been a typical policy
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of both the Trump administration, now even more
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under Trump, but it was the same case under Biden to deport
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nonviolent, sometimes people with no criminal record, not
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even a drivers driving infraction under those
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immigration policies. Now, how can we, how do we, how
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should we look at this as Christians, as Christians that
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we know, we know that the rule of law does matter.
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We have a responsibility to live by the rule of law.
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We also know that we've been told again and again, Scripture
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tells us again and again to welcome the stranger, to treat
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the foreigner with justice and mercy, to be hospitable.
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So we have these two things that we are weighing.
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And I want to actually read some of what you all know, that I'm
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Catholic. I think the Catholic Church has
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done some beautiful work in developing a a better
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understanding of how to see immigration and how to look at
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immigration policy. And I want to read some quotes
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from an encyclical called Brotherly Love that that was
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published, I think just a few years ago.
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It's fairly recent, Fratelli Tutti, as well as some language
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from the Catechism about immigration law and the
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treatment of immigrants and also respect for for for law.
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So I'm going to start with this quote from Fratelli Tutti.
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This is 2253. This was an encyclical, one that
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came out when Pope Francis was our Pope.
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He says this is about how we should think about immigration
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enforcement in part. And I'm going to tie this in
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more later, but listen to what? Listen to what Pope Francis says
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here. He says when injustices haven't
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have occurred on both sides, we're going to get into it.
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I haven't even mentioned the name of, of of what's happening
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specifically in Minneapolis, of Alex Jeffrey Petty.
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I haven't even talked about this specifically.
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We're going to get to that. But I think this context is
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really important. When injustices have occurred on
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both sides, it is important to take into clear account whether
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they are equally grave or in any way comparable.
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Violence perpetrated by the state using its structures and
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power is not on the same level as that perpetrated by
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particular groups. Now, this is, I think, a very
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important point and a lens for us to understand the violence
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that's happening in the streets of Minneapolis where we see
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violent altercations between protesters, some of them
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behaving very improperly. And then we see violence by ICE
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officers, some of them even using guns to shoot protesters
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because, you know, in their case, they will say, well, I was
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fighting back in self-defense. And here Fratelli Tutti is
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telling us, and I think this is something that any conservative
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could agree with, violence perpetrated by the state using
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its structures and power is not on the same level as that
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perpetrated by particular groups.
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So while I think it is very important to urge respect for
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law enforcement, to urge the peaceableness of communities to
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cooperate with law enforcement, to cooperate with federal
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agents, there's also, of course, a right to protest, to peaceful
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protest. And the government has a
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responsibility even when there is unruly protest, even when
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there are criminals. And this isn't just for the
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issue of illegal immigration. This is for the issue of any
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issue, right? Anytime when there is violent
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crime in your city, the government has the
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responsibility to hold itself to a high standard where, yes, if
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there's a violent criminal doing terrible things terrorizing a
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city, the government still has to hold itself to the high
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standard of, of enacting justice.
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It can't just go out vigilante justice just shooting the
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criminals because we're mad at the criminals.
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Of course not. That's not how our law
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enforcement works. Good law enforcement officers
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every day doing the brave work that they do.
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They're out there holding themselves to the high standard
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of we're going to give due process even to this criminal,
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even this criminal who is a maybe a raving lunatic or this
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person that is doing total crime and chaos in my city, they still
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deserve due process. And that is of course, our
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American system of governance. And This is why one of the many
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reasons you and me should be so grateful to live in this
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country, because our government is held to the standard and
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holds itself to the standard. So let's go now zoom back to
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immigration. This is a a very important,
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another very important quote, I think from Fratelli 2D that I
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wanted to read. Complex challenges arise when
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our neighbor happens to be an immigrant.
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So now it's talking specifically about the issue of immigration.
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Complex challenges arise when our neighbor happens to be an
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immigrant. Ideally, unnecessary migration
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ought to be avoided. So they're saying ideally
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unnecessary migration ought to be avoided.
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What the Pope is saying here is that you shouldn't be just
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immigrating for the sake of immigrating.
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People who immigrate should be doing it because of a serious
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reason. So people that just say, well, I
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have a right to just show up in every other country and just
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show up and let me in, that is actually not the right of any
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person to do so. You don't have the right to just
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enter another country because you want to.
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And this note is being made here very clearly.
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It goes on to say this entails creating in countries of origin
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the conditions needed for a dignified life and integral
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development. Yet, until substantial progress
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is made in achieving this goal, we are obliged to respect the
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right of all individuals to find a place that meets their basic
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needs and those of their families and where they can find
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personal fulfillment. Our response to the arrival of
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migrating persons can be summarized by 4 words.
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Welcome, protect, promote, and integrate.
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Now, this is challenging and this is also, there's so much
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scriptural basis for this about welcoming the stranger, opening
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your arms to welcome the person that is the the foreigner.
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There's a challenge here. It's not just welcome them when
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it's convenient, it's welcomed them regardless of the
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challenges that it may pose. If they are in need, if they're
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destitute, if they need, you know, they're fleeing something,
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you know, war or poverty, they need help.
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Do your best to help them is really the underlying principle
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here, scripturally and biblically and and as
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Christians. So what does that mean for
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immigration policy? Well, it's messy, of course.
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What does that look like? Many of the people entering this
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country are not entering this country on a lark.
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That is true. They're not entering this
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country because they're like they woke up one day and like it
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would be fun to live in America. I'm going to peace out and go
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live in America. Many people who enter this
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country, including illegally and legally, because you can come
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both ways, are entering this country because they are really
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fearing the conditions that they're leaving, whether it's
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the poverty, it's the economic uncertainty, it's violent gangs
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in their nation of origin. It's, you know, a government
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that's chaotic. There's no security where
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they're come from. They're seeking better freedom
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and opportunities. And I think people addressing
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this issue on both sides need to acknowledge that.
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We need to acknowledge that this isn't like they're showing up
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and coming on a lark. There's often desperation and
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and destitution that can drive it.
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Not in every case, but in many cases.
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Can you come here legally? Yes.
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Should that be the pathway that we celebrate and promote the
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most? Yes.
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But when there are more spots, there are more people who want
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spots and spots available. This is where you see the
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temptation, of course, for many now millions of migrants to come
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here illegally. What is the Christian response?
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What is the response of of people that we should, that we
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should have? Ultimately, it should be a
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posture of welcoming, protecting, promoting and
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integration. Now, some people have said,
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well, the Catholic Church is getting political here.
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They're criticizing President Trump and they don't criticize
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the Democrats. It's not fair.
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This looks political, etcetera, etcetera.
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And I do want to point out that even under Obama, Catholic
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Bishops were criticizing Obama. Pope Francis, when he came to
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the United States, when Obama was the president, he actually
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was criticizing our deportation policy and saying calling it
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inhumane. So, you know, well, it may seem
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because of media reports that, oh, Catholics bishops or
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Catholic leaders are more hard on Trump versus others, there's
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been a fair amount of consistency from the Catholic
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Bishops about immigration deportation policy and the
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criticism that they've had of immigration deportation policy.
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I want to read one more quote here for context, though, from
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the Catechism, the Catholic Catechism about the treatment of
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immigrants. And this is about affirming that
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governments have the right and they should regulate immigration
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for the sake of common good, public order and safety.
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So everything that I said, you know, people are listening to me
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like, well, yeah, welcome to stranger, you know, integrate
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immigrants. Be understanding all of this.
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But Lila, what about rule of law?
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And what about the importance of a strong border and national
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sovereignty because of all the harm that illegal immigration
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can pop, can cause, especially if you're bringing in drugs,
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human trafficking and violent offenders.
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And this is from the Catechism, and it says 2241.
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It says political authorities for the sake of the common good
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for which they are responsible. Keep that in mind.
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President Trump, he's responsible for the common good.
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Your government is responsible for the common good.
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You can agree or disagree with how they're living that out.
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You might hate, you know, policies or like policies, but
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that is their job. The common good they may
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exercise. They may make the exercise of
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the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions,
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especially with regard to the immigrants duties towards their
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country of adoption. So this is very important
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because it's saying that yes, the government has a right to
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regulate and it should regulate immigration, especially with
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regard to the immigrants duties towards their country of
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adoption. When an immigrant comes to the
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United States, they have a duty to follow the law of that
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country. They have a duty to assimilate.
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They have a duty to live by the laws and the customs, the good
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laws and customs. You know, again, if the custom
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is we abort our children, the immigrant is adopting that.
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I would say that that is immoral and wrong.
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They should be here to actually bring as much justice and, and
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goodness as they can bring. But if there's good, if there's
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law, if there is good customs, then the immigrant should be
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working on integrating and adopting that.
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That is also part of the responsibility of the immigrant,
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just as the government has a responsibility to act with
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justice. So I'm going to lay that.
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Thank you for for letting me lay that groundwork.
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I think that groundwork really matters.
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And I think it also helps us understand what's now taking
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place in Minnesota. Now, before Alex Pretty was shot
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in Minnesota on the streets of Minneapolis, there was a tweet
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by Bishop Baron who spoke out about what was happening and
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unfolding in in Minneapolis. And this was also after Alex
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Good had been shot on the streets.
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And so he he what he said, I felt was very on point.
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And I remember retweeting it. And I think there was some Flack
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that he got from some folks. I may have gotten some too.
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But I felt that. And I believe that what Bishop
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Baron has to say about what's happening in Minnesota is spot
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on. And it appears that now the
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Trump administration seems to be aligning more with the
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recommendations of, at the time, Bishop Baron.
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Now, not because of Bishop Baron necessarily, but I think because
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of the fallout and the backlash of what has happened in
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Minneapolis. So let's pull up this tweet from
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Bishop Baron. He says as a resident of
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Minnesota. So he, in the last few years,
22:24
was moved to Minnesota. Before that, he was in
22:27
California, he says. As a resident of Minnesota and a
22:30
Bishop and as Bishop of the Diocese of Winona Rochester, my
22:34
heart is breaking over the situation in my home state.
22:36
Violence, retribution, threats, protests, deep suspicion of one
22:40
another, political unrest, fear, all of it swirling around all
22:43
the time. May I make a modest proposal for
22:47
exiting this unbearable state of affairs.
22:50
The Trump administration and ICE should limit themselves, at
22:53
least for the time being, to rounding up undocumented people
22:57
who have committed serious crimes.
22:59
Political leaders should stop stirring up resentment against
23:03
officers who are endeavoring to enforce the laws of the country.
23:07
And protesters should cease interfering with the work of
23:10
ICE. And everyone on all sides must
23:14
stop shouting at one another and demonizing their opponents.
23:17
Where we are now at is untenable.
23:20
There is a way out now. I believe it was just a few days
23:23
later that Alex Pretty was shot, and things have just become even
23:30
more inflamed since. But I think this modest proposal
23:35
from Bishop Baron still stands. And I think there's some
23:37
direction moving. There's a direction now towards
23:42
more of a acceptance of such a proposal.
23:44
And we'll get to that in a minute.
23:46
All right, so let's take a look now at what just happened.
23:48
I don't want to get I mean, I have we spent a lot of time at
23:52
the show building up a a play by play about what happened with
23:55
Alex Pretty what has been the response on the left and the
23:58
right? What have been as I see at the
24:00
excesses, what are what do I think, you know, what is the
24:03
solution? We're going to run through some
24:04
of this. There's a lot more I wanted to
24:05
get to today. So I think it took a lot of time
24:08
ground, you know, laying the ground as I just did.
24:11
And I think that is really important, laying that ground of
24:13
where we're at and what is the Christian teaching on how we
24:15
should see rule of flawed immigration.
24:17
But let's just run through this quickly.
24:19
You may have heard a lot of this, but I think there's some
24:21
important things to point out. So first of all, the day that
24:27
Alex Pretty was shot and you probably have seen this footage,
24:29
it's just, it's totally tragic. It's devastating.
24:33
And if you're somebody in Minnesota who's already upset
24:37
about ICE, who already feels that ice is there and shouldn't
24:41
be there, who's already upset about, you know, a friend that
24:44
feels terrified, terrified because of ice, because of the
24:47
color of their skin. And maybe they are an actual
24:49
citizen or they are documented, but they're they're asking for
24:52
their papers to be checked. And it's they feel terrified.
24:55
They're like, where are we? What's going on in my hometown
24:57
now or in my city? You can understand how much fury
25:02
and pain there was when this viral video went around of Alex
25:06
Freddie getting shot to death. Anytime you see anybody shot to
25:09
death on video, it should break your heart.
25:12
It's a horrible thing. Alex Pretty should be alive
25:15
right now. It's devastating.
25:17
So let's walk through what happened and also what is the
25:20
the reported understanding or experience of ICE who was part
25:25
of this altercation? Of course, it was the one that
25:27
pulled the trigger. So the day that Alex Pretty was
25:30
shot, there were a there was a mission by ICE agents to go
25:33
after an illegal immigrant who had an extensive criminal
25:37
history, including domestic assault, disorderly conduct,
25:41
driving without a license. So they were going after
25:43
somebody who did have that criminal history.
25:46
And as they were working to do this, there was a protest, a
25:50
counter protest ultimately that sprung up against ICE and
25:54
Jeffrey Petty was there. Now, Jeffrey Petty, apparently,
25:57
as of I think just today or yesterday, there's another story
26:01
going around about Alex, Jeffrey Petty, not Jeffrey, Alex,
26:04
Jeffrey Petty, about how he has been basically showing up at
26:07
these protests now for weeks. And there is a video now of him
26:12
clashing with ice. I think it was 11 days before
26:15
his death. Let's take a look at this one.
26:17
This is another clip that's just going out about Alex where he is
26:22
having a tussle with ice. I think he's spinning in their
26:24
direction. Let's take a quick look at that.
26:26
Can you play that video, Harris? This morning, two of the agents
26:29
involved in the fatal shooting of Alex Preti are on
26:32
administrative leave, according to DHS officials.
26:35
The move comes as a new videos have emerged of Preti from an
26:38
incident 11 days before he was killed.
26:41
Here you can see Preti approaching the area where a
26:44
crowd was already interacting with federal agents.
26:49
And in this angle captured by online media outlet The News
26:53
Movement, Pretty kicks their car.
26:55
The agents respond by tackling him to the ground.
26:58
At one point, you can see what appears to be a gun.
27:00
It tucked in Pretty's pants. Local officials say Pretty was
27:04
legally allowed to carry a handgun.
27:07
Pretty's family says they were aware of the previous
27:09
altercation, writing a week before Alex was gunned down in
27:12
the street. Despite posing no threat to
27:14
anyone, he was violently assaulted overnight.
27:18
President Trump sharing the video and another user's post
27:21
calling Preti a domestic terrorist, despite his previous
27:24
efforts to back away from that language used by administration
27:27
officials after Preti's death, which has come under fire from
27:30
both Democrats and Republicans. OK, so the.
27:32
Trump administration has now acknowledged mistake.
27:35
So this report here, we can pause it.
27:37
So this report here is it's, it's interesting on a number of
27:39
levels. So first of all, it notes that
27:40
as of now, DHS has put the agents on administrative leave
27:44
who, who shot Alex Preti. So that happened that has
27:48
happened just recently. It also talks about the this
27:51
altercation that Alex pretty had that was captured on camera.
27:53
He's kicking the tires of the ice vehicle.
27:56
He's spitting in their direction.
27:57
He was tackled to the ground after that.
27:59
According to some reports, he broke a rib after that and then
28:02
he's back out on the streets within 10 days later to do
28:05
another ultimately altercation with ice.
28:07
Now I'm already looking at the chat.
28:08
So thank you guys. The chat is already engaging
28:10
here. I promised I would get to it.
28:12
And I I think there's some comments here that I want to
28:13
just read one chat. One person says Emily says shame
28:17
he wasn't arrested in that earlier altercation.
28:19
Letting him go emboldened him. It is a good question.
28:22
If Alex had been arrested then when he got in a tussle with Ice
28:25
and literally was fighting with them, would he be dead today?
28:29
You know, would it, would he, would he be with us today if he
28:32
had been arrested at that time? I don't know the answer to that
28:36
because he could have been arrested and let go.
28:37
I'm not sure. But the point is there was
28:39
already hostility happening and Alex getting involved in this,
28:43
these tussles even before the altercation that took his life.
28:47
Now, the fact is, Alex Pretty, and I think everybody agrees
28:50
with this, including the left and the right, Alex Pretty was
28:53
in fact, impeding law enforcement.
28:55
So they were federal agents. People are saying there's a
28:58
distinction. Obviously there are federal
28:59
agents enforcing federal law. They are federal law
29:02
enforcement. He was trying to stop their
29:07
missions. That's what he was trying to do.
29:09
And he had the right to conceal carry.
29:12
He did have that permit. That is a constitutional right
29:15
to carry a gun, to be a gun owner.
29:18
And so the fact that he had a gun on him and the fact that he
29:21
was protesting is within his rights.
29:24
It now is no longer within his rights if you get into the area
29:26
of he's actually actively impeding an operation because
29:31
ICE has the right to arrest someone who is actively impeding
29:35
an operation. Sounds like there's an operation
29:37
happening off camera right now. By the way, there's, I don't
29:40
know if you guys can hear the, the sirens, but I bring this up
29:43
because what, what, what Alex pretty did could have, could
29:48
have led to his arrest. Instead, it led to his death.
29:51
And that's what of course people are outraged about.
29:54
They're outraged that ICE was there in the 1st place.
29:56
Many people oppose the ICE operation to begin with.
29:58
And then second of all, they're outraged because he was shot and
30:01
how he was shot. He was shot where he was prone
30:02
on the ground in the scuffle. You know, those that defend ICE
30:06
said, well, the ICE was, wasn't sure it was going on.
30:08
They saw a gun, they knew there was a gun.
30:10
They didn't know if Alex was going to be able to grab that
30:12
gun. That is all going to be lit
30:14
again and I'm not going to litigate that right now because
30:17
I that is not my pay grade and that is requires a level of
30:20
expertise to understand exactly what was the intent of the ice
30:24
officers, what was the experience of the ice officers?
30:28
What are all the different camera angles?
30:29
What is the time sequencing of all of those actions.
30:32
I can say confidently that it is a horrible tragedy that he is
30:38
not with us that Alex was killed.
30:40
I would say confidently that it appears to most people, and I
30:44
can say this for the left and the right, because I've seen,
30:46
you know, the the coverage, the wall to wall coverage on this.
30:49
It appears to most people that he didn't need to get shot
30:51
because he was largely shot in the back.
30:53
He was on the ground already and most people are saying, why did
30:56
you do that? Doesn't look like you had the
30:59
you needed to do that. There could be a case made for
31:02
the ICE officer. And I'm sure they'll make the
31:03
case that they thought that they were under threat of their life
31:07
and they felt they had to do that.
31:08
So that's going to be their case.
31:10
That's going to get litigated. But I think the bottom line is
31:14
we're seeing the inflamed. We're seeing the inflaming of
31:19
factions now on both sides, certainly in Minnesota.
31:23
And we're seeing the responses from the right saying that DHS,
31:27
you know, is doing their job. They're trying to enforce the
31:31
law. They're just being attacked by
31:32
protesters. You saw the response from the
31:35
right. And this was the administration
31:37
specifically, when this first took place a week ago, the
31:42
administration called Predi a domestic terrorist, saying that
31:46
he was on a mission to potentially massacre law
31:49
enforcement. So they had already begun to
31:51
paint him in the narrative as this violent offender against
31:55
ICE. Is there evidence to bear that
31:57
out? I don't think so, even with this
31:59
previous clip. So that was a very intense stand
32:01
that they took. Obviously on the left, the left
32:04
is saying that ICE is like the Gestapo, that ICE is, you know,
32:10
literally Hitler. I mean, that's really the
32:12
argument that they are on this, you know, this, this, this tour
32:16
of just terrorizing communities, attacking people.
32:19
Is that really the case for every ICE officer?
32:21
Of course not. You know, I know people in law
32:24
enforcement and Border Patrol and involved with ICE who are
32:28
truly trying to restore peace in communities, doing doing the
32:30
best that they can. And they believe that they're
32:33
doing what's right. They're trying to respect human
32:36
dignity, trying to do the right thing thing is that every ICE
32:38
officer. No, of course not.
32:39
But is that many of them? I would say yes.
32:42
So you're seeing this you know, polar hyper polarization on each
32:45
side calling each other these names domestic terrorist Hitler,
32:49
the Gestapo, modern day Gestapo. I think the the truth, the truth
32:55
is somewhere in the middle. And some people who hear me say
32:59
this, if you are very much conservative, which I am myself,
33:03
but if you are very much involved in these, you know,
33:06
aware of these political narratives, you want maybe to
33:09
take a strong firm stand in one camp or the other and say, well,
33:13
nuance here is not really good because we need to take a strong
33:17
stand one way or another. ICE, all bad.
33:20
ICE all good. Immigration, all bad.
33:22
Immigration, all, all good. Administration, all bad.
33:25
Administration, all good, I don't think.
33:27
And, and I've heard some conservatives reference the
33:30
issue of abortion as a reason as, as almost like a
33:34
justification for why we need to take a strong stand on these
33:37
other issues. Meaning abortion is black and
33:39
white. It's always wrong.
33:41
One side is always wrong on it, which is the side that supports
33:44
it and the side that rejects it is right.
33:46
And use abortion as an example to compare immigration to
33:50
saying, well, immigration is black and white too.
33:52
And this issue is also black and white.
33:54
They are different. These issues are different.
33:57
Abortion is black and white. The baby's killed or not killed,
34:01
and when you kill a baby, it's the direct and intentional
34:03
killing via an abortion that's always wrong.
34:06
In the issue of immigration enforcement, there's a lot more
34:09
complexity and nuance, and that's where good people on both
34:14
sides will have disagreements and have some things that
34:17
they're right about. And people on the other side
34:20
will have some good points. And I would urge the posture of
34:23
understanding and listening to each other instead of going to
34:26
war to say you're all bad, you're all wrong, I'm all right,
34:29
I'm all good. Because.
34:33
And back to our, our, our view of this as Christians and back
34:36
to what many of the many Christian leaders, Catholic
34:41
Bishops have been recommending. When you're doing mass
34:44
deportations of nonviolent offenders of people who came
34:47
here illegally, maybe when they were very young and you're we're
34:52
tearing apart families. You're basically trying to put a
34:56
Band-Aid on the bleeding wound that was the US border.
34:59
And the Band-Aid is let's just RIP people out of their
35:02
communities and deport them, including against 70 to 95% of
35:06
them who are not violent offenders.
35:09
It does open the door to tremendous chaos in communities,
35:13
to the potential for human rights violations in
35:15
communities, to many of the issues that we're seeing right
35:18
now. And I think to pretend like,
35:21
well, that's not going to happen.
35:22
You're not going to have any human rights issues, you're not
35:24
going to have any disturbance, and any chaos is not reality.
35:28
The reality is, especially if someone's brought here as a
35:31
younger person, as a young child, and they start to build a
35:33
life here, they're brought here as a young teen and now they're
35:36
in college and they've assimilated largely, but they're
35:39
not documented. Deporting them is going to
35:42
create chaos. And you're seeing the chaos in
35:45
many of the stories of fear and consternation coming out of our
35:48
communities. Now, some people say, well,
35:51
Lila, that's just the left wing media constantly trying to
35:55
attack Trump, attack, you know, the right.
35:57
They're constantly making these sob stories to try to undermine
36:00
rule of law. Yeah, the left wing media does
36:03
do that. The left wing media is often
36:06
dishonest. They're certainly very dishonest
36:08
on abortion. I've seen them be dishonest on a
36:10
lot of things. I've seen some right wing media
36:13
be dishonest at times. I think overall it's less
36:16
dishonest, but I've seen it be dishonest at times.
36:18
But we're not like, Oh well, the left wing media is dishonest.
36:21
Therefore I think we should do mass deportations.
36:23
I don't think that should necessarily be your conclusion
36:26
of, well, the right wing or the the left wing is dishonest and
36:28
left wing media is dishonest. What I'm trying to say here is
36:32
just because the person criticizing your party, your
36:38
side is sometimes dishonest or is dishonest on other things or
36:44
otherwise you don't respect them, that doesn't mean they're
36:46
100% wrong all the time. A broken clock is right, you
36:50
know, twice a day. So the fact that somebody, this
36:54
is what this is my caution, this is my caution to conservatives
36:58
right now, to Christians, to Catholics, My caution certainly
37:02
to people who are more on the right like myself, who's a
37:04
conservative, Leave a put tribalism aside, put US versus
37:09
them, left versus right, left wing media, right wing media,
37:11
put it aside. Look at it from a perspective of
37:15
what is our posture that we're called to have as Christians?
37:19
What it what are the facts of the situation?
37:21
And step inside and step out of this warring narratives game.
37:25
Because as a Christian, your concern should not be
37:28
narratives. Your concern should not be,
37:30
well, I need to fight their narrative with my narrative.
37:32
Your concern should be the truth, the truth of what it
37:35
means to be a Christian and the truth of what is actually
37:38
happening in any given situation.
37:40
And sometimes your political opponents will be telling the
37:44
truth about some things, and we should be listening to both
37:48
sides, to our side and to our opponents.
37:50
Sometimes we may, we may have something to learn from the
37:53
people who politically oppose us.
37:56
Your political party should not be your first guiding star for
38:01
how to think about politics. Your political media should not
38:05
be your first guiding star for how to think about what's
38:08
happening in the political realm or in our culture.
38:11
Your guiding star should be seeking out the facts as best
38:14
you can and navigating how they might be represented differently
38:17
from different sides. And your guiding star should be
38:20
Scripture should be your faith. As a Catholic, my guiding star
38:24
is the tradition of the Catholic Church and the and the wealth of
38:27
knowledge of 2000 years of its teachings on faith and morals,
38:30
which is all scripturally based. That should be your guiding
38:34
star. So where do we leave it with
38:38
this, you know, tragedy unfolding in Minnesota?
38:41
The good news is after the horrific controversies and by
38:46
the way ICE has been hit, you know, ICE agent hasn't died in
38:50
Minneapolis. But there was an ICE agent who
38:52
had his finger chomped off by a protester.
38:54
He is in a tussle with another protester.
38:56
She bit his finger cut off. She literally chomped off part
38:59
of his finger. So ICE agents are also
39:01
experiencing bodily threat and harm.
39:03
It's not just protesters. Now, back to that original
39:06
principle. The government has a special
39:08
responsibility to do justice. And even when the protesters
39:12
aren't doing justice, the government still has to do
39:15
justice. That's a very important point.
39:17
But where are we going to leave it?
39:18
OK. The good news is it sounds like
39:21
there is some lessening of tension.
39:23
I want to credit. Let's see what this pull up.
39:26
The quote from President Trump. He had a statement here.
39:29
Do we have it to Tim Walz? He had a conversation with
39:32
Governor Walz. Tim Walz has been in the news
39:35
quite a lot lately. I am glad for one, that he is
39:38
not our vice president right now.
39:39
I, I will say that. But let's pull up, Governor,
39:42
this tweet from Governor Walls. I, I don't know if I have it on
39:45
my computer. Do we have it?
39:47
Pull it up here. OK, Governor.
39:49
Tim Walz, can you zoom into Tadmore Harris?
39:53
Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together
39:56
with respect to Minnesota. It was a very good call and we
39:59
actually seem to be on a similar wavelength.
40:01
So this is very conciliatory from President Trump, which I
40:03
applaud him for. I told Governor Walz that I
40:05
would have Tim Holman call him and that what we were looking
40:09
for are any and all criminals that have in their position,
40:12
any, all criminals that they have in their possession.
40:15
And I will be speaking to him. The governor respectfully
40:17
understood that and I will be speaking to him in the near
40:19
future. He was happy that Tim Homan was
40:21
going to Minnesota and so am I. We've had such tremendous
40:25
success in Washington, DC, Memphis, TN and New Orleans, LA
40:30
and virtually every other place that we have touched.
40:32
And even in Minnesota, crime is way down.
40:35
You can Scroll down a little bit, Harris.
40:37
That's all that we have. So this is and Tim Homan, who is
40:43
an American law enforcement officer.
40:44
He was designated as the czar for Trump's second presidency.
40:49
Tim Homan or excuse me, Tom Homan served during the Obama
40:53
administration. So this is a really important
40:56
because Tom Homan in that sense is a nonpartisan figure.
40:59
He served under Obama. Now, some people on the left
41:02
just hate this guy. So, again, I'm not pretending
41:04
like the left loves him, but the point is he served under Obama
41:08
and he was given, I believe, a presidential rank award.
41:12
He was given an award in 2015 by President Barack Obama.
41:15
So leave your partisanship behind for a moment, left versus
41:18
right. This is somebody that Obama
41:22
liked a lot and actually celebrated, you know, gave him
41:25
an award. And now President Trump is
41:27
saying, OK, I'm going to send this guy because it sounds like
41:29
the left can handle him or as liked him in the past.
41:31
So I think that's progress. And I like that President Trump
41:35
is indicating we're going to pull the criminals.
41:37
I think he's referencing, you know, criminals with a criminal
41:40
record beyond illegal entry. And those are the people that
41:43
we're going to be targeting now, focusing more on in Minnesota
41:46
and allowing tensions hopefully to be less inflamed.
41:50
And I think this is the right direction for President Trump to
41:54
take. All right, you guys, so much
41:57
more on this topic to talk about and I'm sure we'll be covering
42:00
it in the future. I appreciate everybody for your
42:03
comments here. We're going to get to some of
42:04
them soon. I want to briefly touch, though,
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She recently announced that she had given.
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She had not given birth. Excuse me.
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She had welcomed a new child into her family that she had,
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of the birth of this beautiful baby.
44:18
Congratulations on this baby. They named her Mikey Moon
44:23
Trainer January 18th, born just last week or a little over a
44:28
week ago. You can see in this picture
44:30
Megan is doing skin contact, cuddling with this newborn baby.
44:35
But here's the thing, this baby was born via surrogacy.
44:38
Now I'm bringing this up because of course I'm excited about any
44:41
new baby. Every new baby is a gift from
44:43
God. This is a gift to Megan and her
44:46
husband Daryl. What a blessing.
44:48
But the the choice of surrogacy is what I want to talk about
44:52
because this is an increasing trend.
44:53
You might have remember, you might remember when Kim
44:55
Kardashian, this was several years ago now, was one of the
44:58
first big actors slash models, slash celebrity types to use
45:02
surrogacy. She had given birth herself to
45:04
her first few children and then she chose a surrogate.
45:07
This is what happened in the case of Megan.
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Megan emphasized that surrogacy wasn't our first choice.
45:12
This is Megan Trainer, she says, but she decided it was the
45:15
safest choice after extensive conversations with doctors
45:18
because of gestational diabetes and because of traumatic birth
45:22
experiences. So she had a body birth
45:23
experience and she experienced gestational diabetes in one of
45:26
her pregnancies. So then she said I'm not
45:28
carrying my future kids. I think this is absolutely
45:30
tragic. I, I do not think surrogacy
45:33
should be permitted. It should be allowed.
45:36
The human rights abuses that open that the doors have opened
45:39
to with surrogacy are devastating.
45:41
There is basically no checks and balances for people who have
45:45
babies via surrogacy. Today.
45:47
You can be a single man with even a criminal record and you
45:49
can go buy ultimately a baby via surrogacy, get hire a woman even
45:54
in another country to be a surrogate for you and have a
45:57
baby. This is something that is
45:59
happening across the country. It's being used as elites,
46:02
though, to sidestep the risks or challenges of pregnancy and
46:07
instead have pay someone else to take those risks and challenges
46:10
on. Here's the reality According to
46:13
surveys and data that has been collected, surrogacy is actually
46:17
dangerous for surrogates. So there was a a study done
46:22
recently, this is from the Guardian 2024.
46:25
Surrogates face higher risk of pregnancy complications.
46:28
Women who act as pregnancy surrogates appear to have a
46:30
higher risk of pregnancy complications than those who
46:33
carry their own babies. The use of surrogates or
46:36
gestational karyos have boomed in recent years, but the risks
46:40
are increased, including severe postpartum hemorrhage and severe
46:44
preeclampsia than women who conceive naturally.
46:48
So the reality is, of course, pregnancy comes with risk.
46:53
Birth experiences can be beautiful or not so beautiful.
46:56
I know many first time moms have a really rough first birth
46:59
experience. It's really tough.
47:01
My second birth was much easier than my first.
47:03
I'm not trying to downplay Meghan Trainer's maybe fear of
47:07
birth or maybe gestational diabetes.
47:10
That is not, you know, not not something that shouldn't be,
47:13
that should be ignored. Of course, if you have
47:15
gestational diabetes, you need to work better on monitoring
47:17
that pregnancy and and your health.
47:20
But these are the reasons now we are buying another person's body
47:24
temporarily to literally gestate our own children.
47:28
And I think about Megan's other kids.
47:30
I think about the fact that they were safely nestled and bonding
47:34
with their mother in so many beautiful ways as unborn babies.
47:37
And now this third child didn't get that opportunity.
47:40
And that is a tragedy. And so I think along with all of
47:44
the abuses that surrogacy opens the door for, there's also the
47:48
tragedy of the lack of that bond that is immediately formed
47:52
because that little baby spends its entire first nine months of
47:56
life nestled inside the body of his or her mother and hearing
48:01
literally the heartbeat and the voice of his or her mother.
48:05
Keep that in mind. Like this baby that was handed
48:07
over to Megan has never heard her heartbeat before, has never
48:11
heard her voice before. She's a completely foreign
48:14
entity to this baby, almost like she's an adoptive mother or
48:17
someone that's a complete stranger as opposed to getting
48:21
the welcome of the voice and the the warm embrace of the mother
48:25
that had carried carried her. So I don't want us to normalize
48:29
surrogacy. I don't want us to celebrate it.
48:31
I don't think it should be permitted.
48:32
And as wonderful as it is that this baby is welcomed now
48:35
safely, praise God, it is not a practice that we should be
48:39
celebrating. The practice is the problem.
48:41
The baby's never the problem. The practice, the method of the
48:45
carrying or even the conception can be the problem.
48:49
All right, I promised you guys I would talk to you about DC.
48:52
So I just got back from Washington, DCA few days ago.
48:57
It was an amazing trip. I was really moved by the
49:01
they're estimating 100,000 people.
49:04
I don't know if we have a marked picture.
49:05
I know we're going to show the picture with Secretary Kennedy,
49:08
but there were an estimated, if you go to my Instagram, you'll,
49:11
you can pull some of the images. There were an estimated 100,000
49:14
people marching the streets of DC.
49:17
Now I've had some people tell me, Lila, why are we still
49:19
marching for life? Roe V Wade is overturned.
49:22
The reason we marched for life in January was because of Roe V
49:25
Wade back in 1973 being decided in January.
49:28
And so people say, you know, it's overturned now because of
49:31
Dobsy Jackson and so and you know, in June 2022.
49:35
So why are we still marching for life in DC in just in January?
49:39
And my response is this, I see truly how life changing this
49:43
event has been now for decades for millions, ultimately of
49:47
young people who do brave the snow and the sleet and the cold
49:52
to stand up for life. And we are living in a post Roe
49:55
America. But the impact of Roe V.
49:58
Wade continues to live on because it didn't just change
50:02
our law when abortion was legalized on demand in 1973.
50:06
It changed the country's culture.
50:08
It changed our society dramatically because now the
50:11
law, being a teacher, the law is a teacher, the law was now
50:15
teaching people that abortion was totally OK and it was a
50:18
woman's right and all the rhetoric and the politics that
50:21
came with that. And so I think marching, you
50:24
know, do I wish the March was a different month?
50:25
In one sense, yes. Would I like to see a March in
50:28
June to March about, you know, to celebrate the good parts of
50:32
Dobsy Jackson and call for complete abolition of abortion,
50:35
make it completely eradicated federally?
50:38
Yes. And and we do have events around
50:39
the time of the Dobsy Jackson case in June.
50:43
But I think there's a legacy here that's valuable and there's
50:45
a habit that's been formed that's valuable because I know
50:48
for a fact that when young people March for life, I've seen
50:50
it myself, it inspires them in a special way to be out there with
50:55
10s of thousands of other people marching also for life.
50:58
It leaves an indelible mark that they remember and it helps with
51:01
their own journey of pro-life advocacy and activism.
51:05
So also being out there for the March for Life, I gave a ton of
51:08
talks I was doing. I was very busy and I was
51:12
blessed to go out there with my kids.
51:13
So we were able to have some wonderful play dates with
51:16
friends that I have out there as well.
51:17
And then I just tried to cram work and just get a bunch of
51:19
work done. And what I was able to do was a
51:22
debate at Georgetown University that was great.
51:26
You can see that on the live action YouTube.
51:28
We did a press conference on Capitol Hill calling for the
51:31
abortion pill to be taken off the market.
51:33
We had meetings with the administration and Secretary
51:36
Kennedy. One of the the facts that many
51:39
people don't realize on the pro-life issue is that the
51:42
majority of abortions today are done via the chemical abortion
51:46
pill. This is the reason abortions
51:50
have increased in the last three years.
51:52
Some people are saying, well, pro-life laws don't work.
51:56
Pro-life laws work if the federal government isn't
51:59
allowing the abortion pill to be illegally sold across state
52:02
lines. And that's what's happening.
52:05
Tragically, the reality is the abortion pill is being sold
52:08
across state lines. And you can order the abortion
52:11
pill to your home by literally pressing a button.
52:14
You can do a very brief Zoom call effectively with a medical
52:18
provider who's not even necessarily a medical provider,
52:20
who will ship the mail, the pills to your doorstep or your
52:24
mailbox. And This is why over 60% now of
52:27
abortions are the abortion pill. Now what does this mean?
52:32
And not only means that we have over 1,000,000 abortions a year
52:34
now, with over 600,000 of them being the abortion pill.
52:38
It means that it's the Wild West for unregulated and very
52:42
dangerous abortions. Not just lethal for the baby,
52:45
but dangerous for the mom. There was a study by the ethics
52:47
public, the Ethics and Public Policy Center that came out last
52:51
year that surveyed insurance data of women who had abortion.
52:56
So it was anonymized data. It wasn't like telling any
52:58
people's personal medical records.
53:00
But it found from Acesta, a sample of hundreds of thousands
53:03
of women that the women that took the abortion pill, one out
53:07
of every 22 of them landed in the emergency room and one out
53:12
of every ten of them had serious adverse side effects from the
53:17
abortion pill. So the abortion pill almost 100%
53:20
of the time kills the baby. Sometimes actually the baby
53:23
survives. It's very rare.
53:25
And sometimes the baby can be saved via the abortion pill
53:28
reversal method that women may opt to take.
53:31
Thank praise God, 7000 babies have been saved that way.
53:34
But in virtually every case, the the large majority of the babies
53:39
killed and then in one out every 10 cases, the woman has serious
53:43
adverse side effects. One out of every 22 cases she
53:46
lands in the emergency room. To put this in perspective, and
53:50
this was even shared with me in the meeting I'm about to tell
53:54
you about. To put this in perspective, if
53:57
the FDA, the FDA knows of any drug that is causing one out of
54:02
every 10 people who take it to have serious adverse side
54:05
effects, they have the policy to pull that drug from the market.
54:09
You take that drug off the market should not be on the
54:12
market because that is a dangerous drug.
54:14
Well friends, the abortion pill is on the market right now and
54:18
not only is it on the market, it was illegally put on the market
54:22
under President Clinton way back when.
54:25
In 2000. The Food and Drug Administration
54:27
bypassed their own protocols and illegally authorized its use
54:31
without any really studies or regulations being followed.
54:34
Protocols being followed and they put the abortion pill on
54:37
the market RU 486. They were required at the time 3
54:41
doctors visits to confirm that the baby was in the womb instead
54:46
of in the fallopian tubes. To confirm it wasn't an ectopic
54:50
pregnancy. To check gestational age of the
54:52
baby because these pills are supposed to be taken in the
54:55
first trimester when the baby is little, not when the baby is
54:58
older. And also to check on the woman
55:00
after the abortion pill has been taken to confirm that there's no
55:05
baby parts left inside of her and the babies actually had been
55:08
killed. I mean, it's horrific, right?
55:10
But that was the original policy under Clinton, who was a raging
55:14
pro abort. Remember, President Clinton
55:16
refused to sign the Partial Birth abortion ban act.
55:20
He wanted partial birth abortion to be legal.
55:22
That's how pro abortion Clinton was.
55:24
But he even said there should be 3 doctors visits.
55:26
Obama removed one of the doctor's visits or actually two
55:30
of the doctor's visits. And then President Biden during
55:35
COVID removed the last doctor's visit.
55:37
So now you can order these lethal drugs directly to your
55:40
door. No doctor to be seen.
55:42
What does this mean? It means that if you're a woman
55:45
with an ectopic pregnancy, that's one to 2% of all women
55:49
who get pregnant have an ectopic pregnancy.
55:51
The baby is not in the womb. She's he or she is not in the
55:54
uterus. They're in the fallopian tube or
55:55
elsewhere. You take it.
55:57
You take an abortion pill with that situation, the baby can
56:01
still be killed, but the baby can't be expelled in the same
56:05
way because they're in the fallopian tube.
56:07
It can kill the mother. There could be an internal
56:10
hemorrhaging, bleeding and death for the mother.
56:12
It's extremely dangerous. Also, these babies could be a
56:16
lot older and the mother's taking the abortion pill.
56:18
There's no way to ascertain the gestational age because there's
56:22
no ultrasound right now. So the mother and this this has
56:25
happened. These are horrible cases.
56:26
Live Action News reports us all the time.
56:27
The baby could be 20 weeks old. The baby could be 8 months old
56:32
and a mother can take the abortion pill and it can cause
56:35
profound horrific suffering for that baby.
56:38
It can cause a late term abortion.
56:40
Sometimes the baby can be born alive.
56:42
This has happened by the way. And again, it's the Wild West.
56:47
So let me just share briefly my meeting, what I can share with
56:50
you. We were able to meet with
56:52
Secretary Kennedy. Here's a picture of from that
56:54
meeting. I was able to talk with him.
56:56
I was surprised. I was impressed that Secretary
56:59
Kennedy knew as much as he knew. I went in there not sure about
57:03
the posture because Secretary Kennedy has said before he
57:06
supports abortion. This is not some pro-life person
57:09
saying I love being a pro-life and I wanted to protect babies.
57:12
He said some comments that seemed to indicate pro-life
57:14
support. So it's been a bit mixed.
57:16
But overall he's said as when he campaigned for president that he
57:18
supported abortion. He seemed well aware of some of
57:21
the risks of the abortion pill. And I can say that the
57:25
administration is, is indicating publicly and and privately that
57:29
they are looking into the abortion pill.
57:31
They're doing their own research to ascertain whether it's safe
57:35
or not. Now, none of that is acceptable
57:37
when you consider it is definitely not safe.
57:39
Forget for the mother for a minute, it's lethal for the
57:42
baby. There's no way for the abortion
57:44
pill to be made safe, safe. It's designed to kill a baby,
57:47
starve to death and forcibly expel a baby.
57:51
So in that sense, there is no grounds whatsoever under which
57:56
the abortion pill should be legal and on our market, because
58:00
the FDA is supposed to protect the American people, that
58:04
includes unborn people, from lethal drugs that are designed
58:08
to harm and not heal. And the abortion pill is
58:11
designed to kill. That's its whole job is to kill.
58:15
And I'm talking about mythopristone used as an
58:17
abortifacion because some people are listening and say, well,
58:19
Lila, it's also used to complete a miscarriage after the baby has
58:21
passed. That's totally fine.
58:23
Sell that all you want. If the baby has already passed
58:26
and you're trying to complete a miscarriage, it's totally
58:28
acceptable. The baby is living and you're
58:30
trying to kill the baby. It is completely unacceptable.
58:33
So where I'll leave it as this. We were able to have a
58:36
conversation. I do think the administration
58:40
cares about what the base is saying, what the pro-life people
58:44
care about and say the pro family base.
58:47
We need to raise our voices very loudly right now and say,
58:50
President Trump, pull the pill for the market.
58:53
It's deadly for babies, it's dangerous for women.
58:56
And they are hearing. They are hearing it and it does
58:59
impact what they do. So that is my bottom line here
59:02
after my meetings, after my advocacy and activism in DC, we
59:06
have to speak louder. Live Action will be doing more
59:09
investigative reporting. So go check out what we're doing
59:11
over at Live Action and support what we're doing.
59:13
And we're going to continue to raise the alarm about these
59:16
deadly drugs. And I believe that if enough
59:18
people speak out, we will see action.
59:20
So pray for the abortion pill to be taken off the market and call
59:25
on Congress. We have a petition over at
59:27
liveaction.org. We are doing a lot of activism
59:29
around this and work. Call on Congress, call on the
59:33
FDA. Congress does have a role to
59:34
play, but I'll, I'll, I'll explain what their role is in a
59:36
minute. Call on the FDA, call on the
59:38
administration to pull the abortion pill.
59:41
What are we calling in Congress to do?
59:43
And ultimately it will include Trump.
59:45
Complete defund of Planned Parenthood.
59:47
That's the other big objective this year for the public
59:49
movement politically pull the abortion pill and we need
59:52
complete defunding of Planned Parenthood.
59:54
They have been defunded for one year and it is time, you know,
59:58
and this is not even all of their funding.
59:59
It's most of their funding federally, but not all.
1:00:02
We need to make that funding complete and permanent.
1:00:05
So please, if you're not already following live action, please do
1:00:08
that because we need the whole movement to be engaged right
1:00:10
now. And these are the political
1:00:12
fights that we are fighting. All right, I'm going to take a
1:00:15
minute to look at the chat here. Thank you everybody for tuning
1:00:18
in today. So First off here, this is from
1:00:23
Silver Bear saying I truly do hope this administration does
1:00:26
something about the prevalence of these pills.
1:00:29
I totally agree, Wandervy says. Ali Beth Stuckey says that
1:00:34
adoption fixes a broken situation and that surrogacy
1:00:37
creates 1. Yes, this is the messaging also
1:00:40
of our the great Katie Faust. I'm very proud to be part of a
1:00:44
campaign she's running about how children deserve a mother and a
1:00:47
father. And she says this as well, that
1:00:50
adoption fixes a broken situation.
1:00:52
This is why we celebrate adoption as pro lifers, but we
1:00:56
don't celebrate surrogacy because surrogacy is designed to
1:01:00
bring a new life into the world, often to break those core bonds
1:01:04
that that they deserve to have with their mother and their
1:01:06
father. But adoption is when their
1:01:09
mother and their father isn't able to care for them.
1:01:11
And so there's somebody else that can help heal that broken
1:01:13
relationship. Another comment here, this is
1:01:18
from K Fine. He says, or I think she says.
1:01:22
I remember when our when my sister, a nurse in the
1:01:25
Philippines back then, tried to visit the US to see our
1:01:28
relatives but was asked to turn back around because she was seen
1:01:31
as a potential illegal immigrant.
1:01:34
And this was during the Obama administration.
1:01:37
So, you know, again, nations have the right to do this.
1:01:41
They have the right to regulate their borders.
1:01:43
This is where I think people accuse the left of being
1:01:46
inconsistent because some people on the left, when you really
1:01:48
push them, they're like, yeah, open borders.
1:01:50
I support no border. And that's not tenable.
1:01:53
No, virtually no country has that.
1:01:55
But borders matter. And this is, again, where rule
1:01:59
of law matters. But then how do we humanely
1:02:02
enforce rule of law and also recognize if someone's been here
1:02:05
illegally for many decades, brought here illegally as a
1:02:07
child, is it worth the chaos and the potential inhumane
1:02:11
treatment? Is it the right thing to do, to
1:02:13
do a mass deportation policy? And that's why a lot of Catholic
1:02:17
Bishops are saying, no, actually, that's not the right
1:02:19
move, Secure the border. But mass deportations,
1:02:21
indiscriminate deportations is not the solution.
1:02:25
Chicago says whatever you did for the least of my brethren,
1:02:28
you did it for me. The Lord allows us to see you in
1:02:31
the most marginalized. Lord allow us to see you in the
1:02:34
most marginalized of society. Allowed us to remember that
1:02:37
undocumented immigrants are still human beings.
1:02:40
It's not about Democrats or Republicans.
1:02:42
It's about 1 nation. We are in this together and
1:02:43
Christ wants unity, not division.
1:02:45
I love that sentiment. I think that's that is that is
1:02:48
true God. That is what Christ wants
1:02:50
ultimately. But we also need to unify with
1:02:52
what is true. And I think what is true is both
1:02:56
protecting human dignity, not creating chaos in communities,
1:02:59
being realistic, and then also having a secure border and
1:03:02
recognizing that there are agents of chaos in politics who
1:03:05
are trying to just create chaos and not have a secure border and
1:03:09
not have any rule of law. A few more a few more comments
1:03:13
here. This is from Illani says you can
1:03:19
support secure borders and rule of law, but also insist on
1:03:22
treating all human beings with dignity.
1:03:25
And I do think that that take is what a lot of people are saying
1:03:29
right now. And that's not to say, oh,
1:03:32
you're becoming a leftist or oh, you're just hating on the right
1:03:37
or Trump. I think that's what most people
1:03:39
are saying. We don't want to see violent
1:03:41
altercations in our communities. Yeah, the protesters have a
1:03:45
responsibility to not show up and do violent protest 100%.
1:03:48
But also law enforcement has the federal law enforcement has a
1:03:54
responsibility to to be as thoughtful and strategic as
1:03:57
possible with how to carry out missions that make sense, that
1:04:02
are as much in line with those communities will.
1:04:04
I mean, some people have even said, well, if Minneapolis
1:04:06
doesn't want them want, you know, federal law enforcement
1:04:09
there, why is federal law enforcement showing up?
1:04:11
Well, they'd have a responsibility to enforce
1:04:13
federal law. But at the same time, you know,
1:04:17
maybe go to communities that and, and this is, you know,
1:04:20
Bishop Baron to some degree saying let's deport the violent
1:04:23
criminals. But maybe we should have a, a, a
1:04:26
softening period here. And it looks like President
1:04:28
Trump is moving in alignment with that, which is, I think,
1:04:31
great progress. All right, everyone, thank you.
1:04:34
Thanks for joining and letting me talk through my thoughts here
1:04:38
on immigration. And I very much welcome your
1:04:41
comments and your notes in in the comment section.
1:04:44
Please leave them. And thank you so much for your
1:04:47
support of live action. People have been so supportive
1:04:49
of our our mission right now to take the abortion pill off the
1:04:52
market, as well as to ensure that we completely defund the
1:04:56
abortion industry. And the most important part of
1:04:59
our mission is to change culture.
1:05:01
Politics must change, but we got to change culture too, and
1:05:04
that's one heart and one mind at a time.
1:05:06
So thank you so much for your amazing support of live action.
1:05:09
Thanks everybody and we will see you next time.