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24 Hostages Freed for 39 Palestinian Prisoners, Is It a Fair Exchange · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: The first Israeli hostages have been returned, ten tie one
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Speaker 1: Filipino freed. Thirty nine Palestinian convicts have also been released
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Speaker 1: in this ordeal. Thirteen Israeli women and children taken hostage
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Speaker 1: by Hamas on October seventh are crossing back into Israel
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Speaker 1: after a transition through Egypt via the Red Cross. On
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Speaker 1: Friday evening local time. Ten Thaie hostages and one Filipino
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Speaker 1: hostage have also been freed. Is what we've been told
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Speaker 1: so far. In return, Israel has released thirty nine Palestinian
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Speaker 1: terror convicts, all women or teenagers. It has also allowed
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Speaker 1: additional fuel trucks and other supplies into Gaza after a
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Speaker 1: four day pause and fighting took effect earlier on Friday
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Speaker 1: under the terms of the agreement. Now here's what we
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Speaker 1: also know. Over two hundred hostages remained in custody in Gaza.
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Speaker 1: Israel initially withheld the names of the hostages to be released,
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Speaker 1: though names began to trickle out during the transfer. That
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Speaker 1: is what we know. One hostage release was Hannah Kadzir.
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Speaker 1: She had been erroneously reported by Palestinian Islamic Jihad to
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Speaker 1: have died in captivity. She was reportedly among the thirteen
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Speaker 1: Israeli hostages seen transferred from Gaza, Israel via the Red
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Speaker 1: Cross through Egypt. Now there's also been an update that's
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Speaker 1: come through recently, and The Times of Israel is now
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Speaker 1: reported the names and ages of the female and child
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Speaker 1: hostage released and returned to Israel, many of them older
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Speaker 1: Hannah seventy seven, another seventy seven, Yafa eighty five, another
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Speaker 1: seventy nine, another seventy two, and then there were some
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Speaker 1: younger ones, a mother and a daughter forty four and
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Speaker 1: nine years old also, then another seventy eight year old,
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Speaker 1: fifty four year old and a nine year old, all related,
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Speaker 1: and finally a two year old, a five year old
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Speaker 1: and a mother thirty four also related. Israel's Army radio
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Speaker 1: narrated the emotional moment when the hostages, including children, boarded
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Speaker 1: a white bus at the Rafa crossing in Egypt to
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Speaker 1: be transferred across the boundary into Israel. They were also
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Speaker 1: escorted by Israeli soldiers as well as health professionals. At
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Speaker 1: least fifty Israeli hostages are set to be released over
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Speaker 1: the next four day pause is what we've also been told,
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Speaker 1: and a total of one hundred and fifty Palestinian convicts
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Speaker 1: will be released. Hamas will be allowed to extend the
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Speaker 1: pause in fighting as long as it hands over an
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Speaker 1: additional ten hostages per day, up to ten days total.
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Speaker 1: Israel would then release an additional one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 1: Palestinian prisoners. Is what we have been told in this agreement.
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Speaker 1: There are a number of potential complications in the deal.
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Speaker 1: Israel reportedly agreed to stop surveillance of Gaza during the
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Speaker 1: four day pause, which will allow Hamas to also move
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Speaker 1: hostages without their locations being traced, and would also allow
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Speaker 1: Hamas to re arm in anticipation of more fighting. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: some Palestinian civilians who move south during the fighting are
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Speaker 1: attempting to return to the northern Gaza strip, which is
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Speaker 1: still very much a war zone. Has in Lebanon has
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Speaker 1: also stopped firing at Israel, though it is not a
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Speaker 1: party to the agreement with Hamas on the hostages. But
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Speaker 1: as you know, has blond Haamas I'm sure are communicating
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Speaker 1: on a very regular basis and communicating through Iran.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: The first stop for the hostages will be a military
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Speaker 1: base in Israel. Well, they will where they will receive
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Speaker 1: medical examinations and attentions needed the family. So the hostages
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Speaker 1: are waiting. There is what we been told as are
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Speaker 1: stuffed animals and toys for the children who are going
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Speaker 1: to be released. Soldiers escorting the hostages have been instructed
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Speaker 1: not to answer questions directly about the children's parents because
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Speaker 1: many of the children's parents were killed by Hamas, few
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Speaker 1: of the hostages are presumed to know the full extent
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Speaker 1: of what happened. In the last several weeks. Israel has
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Speaker 1: vowed to continue the fighting to destroy Hamas after the ceasefire,
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Speaker 1: which many Israelis believe can no longer be allowed to
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Speaker 1: exist after the October seventh Tier attack. Global pressures, however,
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Speaker 1: is building as the anti Semitic left are building against Israel,
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Speaker 1: demanding they extend the pause and to a permanent cease fire.
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Speaker 1: And I will tell you tonight, do not take that bait.
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Speaker 1: I will also explain why in just a moment. Now,
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Speaker 1: here's also something else you need to know. Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: Benetnyahu issued a statement officially welcoming the return of the hostage,
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Speaker 1: just noting it remains one of the main goals of
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Speaker 1: the war, and said that the Israeli government would continue
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Speaker 1: to pursue all the hostages released.
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Speaker 2: That is the good news.
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Speaker 1: Now net and Yahoo obviously coming out with this statement
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Speaker 1: welcoming them back is a big news and certainly an
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Speaker 1: exciting moment for many. There are also, as you know,
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Speaker 1: more than one hundred hostages that are still in captivity
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Speaker 1: from what we understand. Now, let me explain to you
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen when it comes to the media's
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Speaker 1: aspect of this and how the media is going to
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Speaker 1: handle this. So you understand, the media and the left
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Speaker 1: around the world are going to say that this ceasefire
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Speaker 1: should turn into a long term ceasefire. That's what they're
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Speaker 1: going to say. They're going to say that this should
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Speaker 1: turn into a complete stop to this war. Do not
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Speaker 1: fall for this propaganda, because that's exactly what it is.
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Speaker 1: I want to make that very very very clear. That
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Speaker 1: is propaganda. Do not fall for that propaganda. And the
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Speaker 1: reason why I call it propaganda is because they're going
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Speaker 1: to be pushing and claiming that this is somehow Israel.
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Speaker 1: Now let's also at Israel's fault. Let me also remind
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Speaker 1: you of this, if there is truly a wish for
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Speaker 1: a cease fire and for this war to end. Then
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Speaker 1: watch what Hamas does over the next several days. Do
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Speaker 1: they in fact continue the ceasefire by releasing ten hostages
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Speaker 1: per day? And if they do, that's a good sign.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe they'll continue to do that for the
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Speaker 1: long term. Why because they have just said and made
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Speaker 1: it clear, and they knew what was going to happen
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Speaker 1: response to this horrific tear attack that happened on the seventh.
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Speaker 1: They knew they were going into a bloody war, and
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Speaker 1: they were willing to die and have countless people die
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Speaker 1: around them. They didn't care about the people in Palestine.
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Speaker 1: They didn't care about the women and children who they
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Speaker 1: were putting in harm's way. In fact, they knew that
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Speaker 1: that there was going to be a significant loss of life,
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Speaker 1: and they can decided to do it anyway. Have they
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Speaker 1: learned their lesson? No, I don't believe they have. Are
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Speaker 1: they trying to have a ceasefire so they can refuel
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Speaker 1: and re engage and get into weapons and get warriors
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Speaker 1: and fighters back to the front lines, You better believe it.
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Speaker 1: But the real question is if the Palaestinians want this
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Speaker 1: to happen, Moving forward. If they want there to truly
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Speaker 1: be a ceasefire, then they're the ones that continue to
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Speaker 1: They can continue to extend this cease fire. I would
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Speaker 1: watch them, but do not take de bait that this
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Speaker 1: is somehow on Israel to fix this problem. Israel has
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Speaker 1: a right to protect and defend itself, the same way
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Speaker 1: that we had the right after nine to eleven to
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Speaker 1: protect and defend ourselves, the same way that any country
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Speaker 1: that is attacked in such a barbaric way has a
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Speaker 1: right to protect and defend themselves. This shouldn't be up
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Speaker 1: for debate, It's sure as hell, shouldn't be up for negotiation.
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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be up for.
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Speaker 1: Anyone else in the world, by the way, to decide
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Speaker 1: what is can and cannot do to protect and to
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Speaker 1: defend themselves, because again, this is all about protecting and
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Speaker 1: defending their right to exist. The Jewish people have been
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Speaker 1: hunted down for decades and if you go back in history,
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Speaker 1: honestly longer than that, and they have the right to
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Speaker 1: protect and defend themselves when you have people that are
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Speaker 1: terrorists coming after them. Look at the other issue here.
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Speaker 1: I want you to think about how disgusting this terrorist
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Speaker 1: organization is that they have built these tunnels which now
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Speaker 1: you can see underneath this hospital to bring in and
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Speaker 1: out of that hospital their terrorists and to put their
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Speaker 1: weaponry and to put their munitions, and to put their AMMO,
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Speaker 1: and to put everything that they use and their machine
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Speaker 1: guns in this hospital. They knew they were putting people
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Speaker 1: in harm's way when they did it, and they didn't care.
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Speaker 2: This is what terrorists do.
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Speaker 1: They don't value any one's life, including their own allies lives,
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Speaker 1: because they are radical extremists. And this is how radical
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Speaker 1: extremists work. This is how radical extremists act. This is
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Speaker 1: how radical extremists continue to move and act moving forward.
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Speaker 1: It is absolutely disgusting. But what you're going to see
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Speaker 1: now is this is this real big push for people
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Speaker 1: to turn yet again on Israel with propaganda saying well,
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Speaker 1: this ceasefire, Israel could have agreed to extend it, they
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Speaker 1: could have turned this into a stop to war. No,
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Speaker 1: there is no way that that should happen. And more importantly,
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Speaker 1: when I say there's no way that should happen, it
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Speaker 1: shouldn't happen until they've taken care of Hamas period, the
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Speaker 1: same way that we took care of al Qaida and
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Speaker 1: isis the same way that we said, we're not stopping
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Speaker 1: until we wipe them off in essence the face of
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Speaker 1: the earth, and that is exactly what we should always do.
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Speaker 1: Let me also say this is not me controversial at all.
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Speaker 1: We did this after nine to eleven. Israel has the
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Speaker 1: right to do it after their nine to eleven and
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Speaker 2: Let me also.
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Speaker 1: Remind you of what we've been dealing with in this country.
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Speaker 1: In this country, the amount of anti Semitism has been
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Speaker 1: truly unbelievable. The amount of pro Hamas propaganda that has
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Speaker 1: been on social media has been staggering. The amount of
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Speaker 1: pro Hamas propaganda that has been put out, for example,
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Speaker 1: on TikTok by the Chinese has been staggering. And this
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Speaker 1: is the reason why the President Joe Biden's approval rating
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Speaker 1: is so low with the handle of the war between
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Speaker 1: Hamas and Israel. And the reason why I say that
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Speaker 1: is because young people are influenced by TikTok. More than
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Speaker 1: seventy percent of young people in this country say that
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Speaker 1: his handling of the war is going terribly. They don't
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Speaker 1: like his handling of the war. And the reason why
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Speaker 1: is because they actually young people stand with the Palestinians
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Speaker 1: and stand with Hamas, stand with the terrorists. It's disgusting,
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Speaker 1: not surprising, but it is disgusting. One other note I
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Speaker 1: should mention real quick is that in this country the
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Speaker 1: media is trying to turn people against Israel as well.
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Speaker 1: From the very beginning, they've been trying to do this.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to this montage of the media standing
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Speaker 1: up for the terrorists over Israel. It is growing backlash
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Speaker 1: to a letter signed by nearly three dozen student groups
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Speaker 1: at Harvard which solely blamed.
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Speaker 2: Israel for the deadly attacks by Hamas. We do not
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Speaker 2: punish or sanction people for expressing such views.
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Speaker 3: The BLM chapters and groups across the country actually celebrating
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Speaker 3: the sickening site you're seeing there.
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Speaker 2: Their flyer had a paraglider on it. And it's getting
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Speaker 2: so bad. You can't even hold a moment of silence
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Speaker 2: for Israeli victims during a school board meeting without pushback.
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Speaker 2: As the old civil rights adage goes, no justice, no peace.
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Speaker 1: Remember that what's happening right now is in a greater
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Speaker 1: context of one of the greatest crimes against humanity, which
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Speaker 1: is an apartheid regime.
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Speaker 4: Israeli government is what has fueled this in Israel, that
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Speaker 4: is occupying the Palestinians, not the other way around.
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Speaker 2: And it's basically like living alex in an open a prison.
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Speaker 1: I think as mainly attacked military establishments, military installations.
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Speaker 3: You can't condemn women and children and elderly people in
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Speaker 3: over than the streets.
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Speaker 2: What about do you condemn it? I already said Why
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Speaker 2: can't you say yes? Why can't you say yes?
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Speaker 1: These are just some of the people that are out there.
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Speaker 1: These are some of the extreme lefties out there that
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Speaker 1: right now are doing this. This Colorado Democrat and the
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Speaker 1: atrocities and Moss. What about it is? He described it?
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Speaker 2: What about it?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: Like? Who cares? What about it?
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Speaker 3: Support Israel's rights to defend themselves in leaders Really, Thomas
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Speaker 3: held outside your office, If you do not conduil what
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Speaker 3: the monster is real?
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Speaker 2: Do you condemn us? Tell me that I've already said
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Speaker 2: that I condemned the violence that Hamas.
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Speaker 3: As an organizer Hells organization, will you can?
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Speaker 2: I don't see them as a terrorist organization. BOMAS is
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Speaker 2: a political movement that was elected by.
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Speaker 1: The justification of the violence is the occupation.
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Speaker 3: Palestinians are leading a freedom movement.
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Speaker 4: ABAS is a movement, and then you fight back for
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Speaker 4: that and you stand for your rights.
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Speaker 2: That does not make you a terrorist. That makes you
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Speaker 2: a defender.
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Speaker 1: In thirty one student groups blaming Israel, and your answer
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Speaker 1: to this is they are largely right. You cannot simply
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Speaker 1: look at this particular moment with that the larger backdrop
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Speaker 1: of an ugly occupation.
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Speaker 3: Of them were very disappointed when the United States moved
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Speaker 3: its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Again, I think
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Speaker 3: that Hamas decided that now to amass these capabilities and
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Speaker 3: to carry out this attack, it they need to bring
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Speaker 3: more attention in the region and globally to what they
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Speaker 3: considered to be their their plight.
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Speaker 1: You may have noticed I didn't mention any of the
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Speaker 1: American hostages. If you want to know why, it's because
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Speaker 1: we don't know anything. Biden had his press conference in
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Speaker 1: which he announced he had no idea when American citizens
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Speaker 1: held hostage in Gods it would be released and what
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Speaker 1: do you do? Afterwards, he immediately went shopping. Yes, that
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Speaker 1: is not a joke. Biden did say happy Thanksgiving to all,
16:42
Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed it, and then shuffled away after
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Speaker 1: he made that part of his speech. What he also
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Speaker 1: said about Hamas is this, Listen carefully.
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Speaker 4: But I believe one of the reasons why Hamas struck
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Speaker 4: when they did is they knew that I was working
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Speaker 4: very closely with the Saudis and others in the region
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Speaker 4: to bring peace to the region by having recognition of
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Speaker 4: Israel and Israel's right to exist. You may recall when
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Speaker 4: we did the G twenty a little while ago, I
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Speaker 4: was able to get a resolution a statement passed through
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Speaker 4: there saying We're going to build a railroad from Riad
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Speaker 4: all the way through the Middle East into Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc.
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Speaker 4: And all the way up to Europe. Not the railroad,
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Speaker 4: but it'd be an underground pipeline and then railroad. The
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Speaker 4: whole idea is there's overwhelming interest, and I think most
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Speaker 4: Arab nations know it and coordinating with one another to
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Speaker 4: change the dynamic in their region for a longer term peace.
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Speaker 4: And that is what I'm going to continue to work on.
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Speaker 4: Thank you all very very much. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: So the President, to be clear there is saying that
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Speaker 1: the reason why I must struck what they did was
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Speaker 1: because Joe Biden wanted to build quote a rear road
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Speaker 1: all the way through the Middle East and Saudi Arabia, Israel,
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Speaker 1: et cetera, and all the way to Europe. I'm just curios,
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Speaker 1: mister President, how much of that railway was I supposed
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Speaker 1: to pay for? Right now, the most important question was
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Speaker 1: the question about the hostages. What did the presidents say
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Speaker 1: will go first?
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Speaker 3: American hostages being released that none were included today.
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Speaker 4: We don't know when that will occur, but we're going
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Speaker 4: to be expect it to occur. And we don't know
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Speaker 4: what the list of all the hostages are and when
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Speaker 4: they'll be released, but we know the numbers they're going
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Speaker 4: to be released, so is my hope and expectation will
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Speaker 4: be soon.
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Speaker 1: So we know nothing. At least he was honest about that.
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Speaker 1: We don't know. There's your president of the United States
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Speaker 1: of America. Now, imagine being an American citizen. Imagine being
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Speaker 1: a family member of an American citizen who is being
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Speaker 1: held hostage, and it's like, well, all right, well, what
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Speaker 1: are the conditions?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: What does the president have to say about the conditions?
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Speaker 1: Does our government know a damn thing?
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Speaker 4: And of the time, Americans are an a ton of war?
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Speaker 2: Do you know all of our conditions? Are they all alive?
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Speaker 4: We don't know all the conditions.
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Speaker 2: We don't know anything. Is there anything this president does know? Right?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, seriously, I'm just curious. What do
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Speaker 1: we know, mister president? Well, we know this apparently two.
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Speaker 4: American women and one four year old child, Abigail, who
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Speaker 4: remains among those missing. We also will not stop until
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Speaker 4: we get these hostages brought home and an answer to
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Speaker 4: their whereabouts.
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Speaker 2: But we don't know when.
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Speaker 1: We don't know where, we don't know who they are,
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Speaker 1: we don't know exactly where they are. We don't know anything.
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Speaker 1: But we'll keep you posted. Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
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Speaker 1: If you want to look what failed leadership looks like,
19:37
Speaker 1: look at this guy. If you want to know why
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Speaker 1: terrorists are acting out right now, look at this guy.
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Speaker 1: If you want to know why I say he's the
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Speaker 1: one to blame, look at this guy. If you are
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Speaker 1: a terrorist and you're watching that press conference, you know
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Speaker 1: that this is an opportunity.
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Speaker 2: That's what this is. It's an opportunity you can.
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Speaker 1: Get away with whatever the hell it is you want
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Speaker 1: to get away with right now, because who's going to
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Speaker 1: stop you? Is there anyone that is going to stop you?
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Speaker 1: Certainly not from this government, Certainly not from this president.
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Speaker 1: They're not going to stop any of it. I think
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Speaker 1: it's very clear that Hamas has decided from the land
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Speaker 1: of the Sea.
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Speaker 2: Their goal is genocide.
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Speaker 1: That's what their goal has been for as long as
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Speaker 1: Israel has been around. And there are a group of
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Speaker 1: people and the Palestinians have decided to put them into power,
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Speaker 1: back them, support them, advocate for them, and quote elect
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Speaker 1: them to office because they believe that Israel is the devil.
20:49
Speaker 1: They believe that Israel, the Israeli people do not have
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Speaker 1: a right to exist. They want to finish the job
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Speaker 1: that they say Hitler started, and believe them when they
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Speaker 1: say this. That's the other part of this that I
21:04
Speaker 1: really don't understand is why people don't believe them. Just
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Speaker 1: believe them. Believe them when they tell you what they're
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Speaker 1: telling you. Believe them when they say this is what
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Speaker 1: they want to do. And they're never They've also said
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Speaker 1: it their own words, They're never going to stop, like
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Speaker 1: they're not. They're never going to stop. And believe them
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Speaker 1: when they say that, they're never going to stop until
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Speaker 1: Israel is wiped off the face of the earth. This
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Speaker 1: is why Netan Yahoo has said that he is never
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Speaker 1: going that he's that he's learned their lesson right like this,
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Speaker 1: this barbaric, horrific attack is such a barbaric and horrific
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Speaker 1: attack that they are never going to stop until they
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Speaker 1: finish the job. That's exactly what they should do. Okay,
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Speaker 1: like that, that's they they I support them in this.
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Speaker 1: I advocate for them in this. They should never stop
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Speaker 1: because if they do, they're just going to keep doing it.
22:08
Speaker 1: Go back and look at how you have to live
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Speaker 1: in Israel, all right, and this is again part of
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Speaker 1: this conversation that must be had.
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Speaker 2: If you live in Israel, you have to worry that.
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Speaker 1: At any moment of any day that somebody is going
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Speaker 1: to come and try to kill you with these rockets.
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Speaker 1: They have no idea how to aim them because they're
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Speaker 1: not made to be aimed. Okay, that's one thing that
22:35
Speaker 1: people need to understand. They were never made to be
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Speaker 1: aimed anywhere. Okay, that's Israel. Shoot them over there. They
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Speaker 1: don't have It's just generically it's like pointing a rocket
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Speaker 1: in the direction of downtown where you live, and if
22:53
Speaker 1: it kills people, you're happy. That's what they do on
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Speaker 1: a daily, weekly and monthly basis. They will ever stop.
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Speaker 1: This is what they do, and they will continue to
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Speaker 1: do it, and they will always do this. It is
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Speaker 1: straight up disgusting, it's inhumane, it's barbaric. But I go
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Speaker 1: back to the media and these lefties on the media
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Speaker 1: and what they say and listen to this, because it's
23:20
Speaker 1: again it's something that you need to understand. Listen to
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Speaker 1: the media. Here again, I played part of this earlier.
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Speaker 1: Here's the second half of it.
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Speaker 3: Palestinians are the people who have been protesting non violently
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Speaker 3: to prevent the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
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Speaker 2: This is the most extreme fundamental is right wing supremacist
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Speaker 2: government in the history of the state of Israel. Israel
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Speaker 2: is notorious for creating propagandas and did not give rape No.
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Speaker 3: Nanya who is basically one.
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Speaker 2: Of his own narratives of what he wants to excuse himself.
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Speaker 2: How does this said, I'm.
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Speaker 3: Killing and genociding and holocaustic all the boss will be
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Speaker 3: a part time state of Israel, which has no legitimate
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Speaker 3: reason for existing.
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Speaker 2: I mean, hear me out. We strikes first because we
24:06
Speaker 2: want to hire land back. Sure, and this is that's like,
24:09
Speaker 2: that's what people do when they want the thing back.
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Speaker 2: Is a terrace organization as a resistance.
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Speaker 1: And then you're the left cheering for the violence, cheering
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Speaker 1: for the killing of civilians, calling for more chanting in
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Speaker 1: the streets.
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Speaker 2: There's only one solution.
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Speaker 1: That they're chanting gas the Jews. There's only one solution.
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Speaker 1: And as they chant and they support, whether it's AOC
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Speaker 1: or Rashid Talib or any of the Hamas delegation in
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Speaker 1: our own Congress. They're chanting gas the Jews and one solution,
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Speaker 1: and their solution is to exterminate every single Jewish person
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Speaker 1: in Israel and wipe Israel off the face of the earth.
24:58
Speaker 1: Believe them when they say from the land to the sea, like,
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Speaker 1: believe them. They mean it when they say it, and
25:04
Speaker 1: we try to act like, oh, no, they don't really
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Speaker 1: mean it. Yes, they do, they mean it. I am
25:11
Speaker 1: in a weird spot with Joe Biden because I think
25:14
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is a guy that is clearly cognitive massive
25:17
Speaker 1: cognitive decline. But I also don't want the Democrats to
25:19
Speaker 1: replace him because I want to beat him. That's one
25:23
Speaker 1: thing that people don't understand right now. I do not
25:26
Speaker 1: want them, and this is just you know, some people
25:30
Speaker 1: may disagree with me, that's fine, but I do not
25:32
Speaker 1: want them to take him out of the running because
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Speaker 1: I think he's the easiest one to beat.
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Speaker 2: That's my concern.
25:41
Speaker 1: I want him to be the guy I want to
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Speaker 1: beat Joe Biden on election day. What I don't want
25:49
Speaker 1: to happen is for Joe Biden to be taken off
25:54
Speaker 1: the ballot before election day. That is my concern, and
25:59
Speaker 1: the reason and why that's my concern is I am
26:02
Speaker 1: worried that they will bring in somebody else that might
26:06
Speaker 1: have a better chance of winning against the Republican candidate.
26:10
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example of a scenario. Many of
26:13
Speaker 1: you know, I co host a podcast with Cinder Ted Cruz.
26:16
Speaker 1: If you've never listened, Grab It Verdict with Ted Cruz.
26:18
Speaker 1: I also host my own podcast, Ben ferguson podcasts Grab It.
26:23
Speaker 1: I'd love to keep up with you on there, but
26:24
Speaker 1: I've said this on both shows multiple times. My worry is,
26:28
Speaker 1: and it is a sincere concern that Democrats will turn
26:33
Speaker 1: on Joe Biden. We're already watching it happen because they
26:37
Speaker 1: realize that with these poll numbers, they're afraid he's going
26:40
Speaker 1: to not only cost them the White House, but also
26:43
Speaker 1: other races in the House and the Senate. And so
26:46
Speaker 1: what they may do is they may parachute in a candidate.
26:49
Speaker 1: One of the candidates that I am genuinely concerned that
26:52
Speaker 1: they would parachute in would be Michelle Obama. I can
26:56
Speaker 1: see a scenario where they would bring in Michelle Obama
26:58
Speaker 1: at the convention at the inn. If the president was
27:01
Speaker 1: to drop out, then the delegates would choose and decide
27:04
Speaker 1: who their candidate would be. And what a great scenario
27:06
Speaker 1: for someone like Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama could come in
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Speaker 1: save the day. She's loved by a lot of people.
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Speaker 1: The media absolutely loves, uh, Michelle Obama, I mean loves
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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama, and they think that Michelle Obama's amazing. And
27:20
Speaker 1: she could basically run a two month and a few
27:23
Speaker 1: day campaign through September October and then bam, we're at
27:26
Speaker 1: November's election. That is my concern. Make sure you share
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