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Trump Demands Putin-Zelenskyy Meet Immediately & Biden's Pardon-palooza could Cause Serious Trouble · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to twenty sixteen. The Democrats
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  Speaker 1: said then about Donald Trump that he was going to get.
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  Speaker 2: Us into WORL war. Iie.
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  Speaker 1: The reality is, in my lifetime he was the only
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  Speaker 1: president that actually didn't get us.
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  Speaker 2: Into a war.
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  Speaker 1: He was a president that said we must have like
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  Speaker 1: peace through strength, something that Ronald Reagan also understood. And
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  Speaker 1: the President has been very clear that if he was elected,
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  Speaker 1: he was going to immediately get involved with Vladimir Putin
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  Speaker 1: and Zolensky and end this war. He called it a
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  Speaker 1: senseless war that we have been funding, a war that
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  Speaker 1: would not have continued to the point where we are
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  Speaker 1: right now if it wasn't for the US financial involvement
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  Speaker 1: and the military aid that we've been giving to Zolensky
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  Speaker 1: and Ukraine. Well, I want to go back to what
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  Speaker 1: President elect Trump said when he was getting ready to
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  Speaker 1: come into the White House. He said he had a
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  Speaker 1: strong interest in meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin and
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  Speaker 1: discussed the ending of this ongoing war, saying this, look,
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  Speaker 1: I know that Putin wants to meet, and the arrangements
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  Speaker 1: are being made for this meeting. That was reported by
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  Speaker 1: The Hill newspaper, The Kremlin, by the way, responded positively
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  Speaker 1: with a spokesperson acknowledging quote a mutual desire quote unquote
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  Speaker 1: to set up a meeting. Those specific details had not
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  Speaker 1: been confirmed that coming from Sky News. Well, in his
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  Speaker 1: recent speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Trump
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  Speaker 1: emphasized his intentions three to one. Well, in his recent
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  Speaker 1: speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: doubled down emphasizing his intentions to involve China as well
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  Speaker 1: in the peace process, stating that China has quote a
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  Speaker 1: great deal of power over the situation. He also warned
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  Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin to end the war promptly, or as he
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  Speaker 1: said yesterday, you will severe economic consequences, including high taxes, tariffs,
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  Speaker 1: and sanctions on Russian goods. Well, that seems to change
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  Speaker 1: everything in the calculations of Ladimir Putin over the last
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  Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Moments ago on Fox this was the
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  Speaker 1: reporting based on what I just told you from yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and Vladimir Putin's response that.
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  Speaker 3: President Trump wants to meet immediately with Vladimir Putin and
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  Speaker 3: that President Zelenski has told President Trump that he is
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  Speaker 3: ready to make.
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  Speaker 2: A deal to end the war.
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  Speaker 3: So obviously a very big development on that front, and
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  Speaker 3: we'll play it out for you as soon as we
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  Speaker 3: get it. A number of other items crossing the wires
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  Speaker 3: and making news that we're going to bring you when
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  Speaker 3: we get that playback in just a moment to stick
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  Speaker 3: around for that.
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  Speaker 2: So that's how they initially broke the news.
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  Speaker 1: Then Donald Trump and I go back to what he
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  Speaker 1: had to say a few days ago. He said this
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  Speaker 1: on the nine as he was asked a question about
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  Speaker 1: this meeting and what he expects. And this is again
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  Speaker 1: laying that groundwork for diplomacy and power and strength bringing peace.
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  Speaker 4: President Putin wants to meet. He's said that even publicly,
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  Speaker 4: and we have to get that war over with. That's
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  Speaker 4: a bloody mess. Soldiers are being killed by the millions.
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  Speaker 4: I looked at some very graphic pictures yesterday, the soldiers
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  Speaker 4: that are being killed.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a flat field.
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  Speaker 4: The only thing that stops the bullet is a body.
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  Speaker 4: These are It's a very very flat land, and the
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  Speaker 4: soldiers are fighting and they are dying by the hundreds
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  Speaker 4: of thousands.
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  Speaker 2: You listen to how we got here so quickly.
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  Speaker 1: How is it that we have a president that has
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  Speaker 1: come in and this quickly is now saying we're going
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  Speaker 1: to meet. We are now being told that Vladimir Putin
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  Speaker 1: is willing to meet. Zelensky is saying he's willing to meet.
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  Speaker 1: And they understand that this whole game that they've been playing,
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  Speaker 1: and all the money that has been coming in to
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  Speaker 1: Zelensky through foreign aid is ending specifically from the United
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  Speaker 1: States of America because of Donald Trump. And so the
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  Speaker 1: idea in this headline that President Trump wants to meet
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  Speaker 1: immediately with Putin and Zelensky and they're ready to make
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  Speaker 1: a deal to end this war tells you how much
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  Speaker 1: of America's foreign policy was feeding this war. Because Zolensky
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  Speaker 1: understands something here. He understands that he can't keep doing
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  Speaker 1: what he's doing if he's not getting hundreds of billions
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  Speaker 1: of dollars from the United States of America. Vladimir Putin
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  Speaker 1: also understands that Donald Trump's threat that we can either
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  Speaker 1: do this the easy way or the hard way through
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  Speaker 1: sanctions and US coming after you economically right is going
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  Speaker 1: to have major consequences on him.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin said on his state TV channels that he
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  Speaker 1: is ready to to discuss peace in Ukraine with President Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it weird that we were told that Trump would
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  Speaker 1: start World War three?
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  Speaker 2: He said that back in sixteen seventeen, eighteen nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: They've been saying that recently, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump now plans to meet immediately with a Lenskimputiny
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  Speaker 1: to negotiate the end of the war. This is the
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  Speaker 1: difference between these two styles of political rhetoric and policies
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  Speaker 1: of the US government, Trump is saying. And we now
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  Speaker 1: have some more audio that's come in, and I was
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  Speaker 1: doing this live, so I'm going to hear this for
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  Speaker 1: the first time.
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  Speaker 2: This is President Trump and Davos. Take a listen.
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  Speaker 4: We'd like to see de nuclearization. In fact, with President
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  Speaker 4: Putin prior to an election result, which was frankly ridiculous,
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  Speaker 4: we were talking about the nuclearization of our two countries
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  Speaker 4: and China would have come along. China has a much
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  Speaker 4: smaller right now nuclear armament than us. Who feel the
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  Speaker 4: US but they're going to be catching it at some
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  Speaker 4: point over the next four or five years. And I
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  Speaker 4: will tell you that President Putin really liked the idea
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  Speaker 4: of cutting way back on nuclear and I think the
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  Speaker 4: rest of the world. We would have gotten them to follow,
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  Speaker 4: and China would have come along too. China also liked it.
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  Speaker 4: Tremendous amounts of money of being spent on nuclear and
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  Speaker 4: the destructive capability is something that we don't even want
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  Speaker 4: to talk about today because you don't want to hear
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  Speaker 4: it's too depressing. So we want to see if we
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  Speaker 4: can denuclearize. And I think that's very possible. And I
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  Speaker 4: can tell you that President Putin wanted to do it.
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  Speaker 4: He and I wanted to do it. We had a
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  Speaker 4: good conversation with China. They would have been involved, and
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  Speaker 4: that would have been an unbelievable thing for the planet.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, does that sound like a guy that's
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  Speaker 2: going to take us into World War three? No, of course,
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  Speaker 2: on it doesn't sound like that at all.
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  Speaker 1: But what Donald Trump is saying is that not only
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  Speaker 1: are we going to end this war, but President Putin
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  Speaker 1: and I in China are going to begin the denuclearization
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  Speaker 1: of our countries. He says, that is again great for
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  Speaker 1: the world. So let's go back and listen again to
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  Speaker 1: that news It just broke from Fox. The President Trump
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  Speaker 1: as he was signing executive orders after everything that you
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  Speaker 1: just heard him say, there is now reporting that they
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  Speaker 1: are going to have an immediate like immediately, I want
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  Speaker 1: to meet.
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  Speaker 2: This is what world leaders do.
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  Speaker 3: That President Trump wants to meet immediately with Vladimir Putin,
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  Speaker 3: and that President Zelenski has told President Trump that he
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  Speaker 3: is ready to make a deal to end the war.
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  Speaker 3: So obviously a very big development on that front. And
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  Speaker 3: we'll play it out for you as soon as we
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  Speaker 3: get it. A number of other items, Uh, let.
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  Speaker 1: Me just stop it there, like this is what leaders
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  Speaker 1: sound like when they lead, right, like this is it?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Trump says that we are we want to meet with
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  Speaker 1: the Russian president soon, and he said millions of lives
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  Speaker 1: are being wasted, millions of lives. And then it's like
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  Speaker 1: after that, got tractions like screw it, like not soon,
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  Speaker 1: Let's just do it immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Very important.
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  Speaker 4: I really would like to be able to meet with
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  Speaker 4: President Putin soon and get that war. And that's not
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  Speaker 4: from the standpoint of economy or anything else. That's from
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  Speaker 4: the standpoint of millions of lives are being wasted. Beautiful
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  Speaker 4: young people are being shot in the battlefield. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the bullet very flat land, as I said, and the
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  Speaker 4: bullet goes No, there's no hiding and a bullet. The
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  Speaker 4: only thing is to stop the bullet is a human body.
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  Speaker 4: And you have to see I've seen pictures of what's
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  Speaker 4: taken place. It's a carnage and we really have to
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  Speaker 4: stop that war. That war is horrible.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not talking to economy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not talking economics, I'm not talking about natural resource.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just talking about there's so.
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  Speaker 4: Many young people being killed in this war, and that's
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  Speaker 4: not including the people that have been killed as the
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  Speaker 4: cities are being knocked down, building by building, So we
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  Speaker 4: really should get that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Likewise, in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I love the way that he is saying this,
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  Speaker 1: stop doing this. And the only thing that change is
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump turned off the military funding Spicott and as
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  Speaker 1: soon as the money stopped flowing, now they're ready to negotiate.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as he threatened putin we in this war
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  Speaker 1: now or else. You can do it the easy way
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  Speaker 1: or the hard way, and it's going to hurt your country.
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  Speaker 1: And Zelenski's in trouble as well, and the Moneys stopping
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  Speaker 1: the flow is going to end with me.
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  Speaker 2: Now they're going, yeah, let's meet in this thing.
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  Speaker 1: How much blood does the Biden administration have on their
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  Speaker 1: hands in Ukraine. That's the question the media should be
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  Speaker 1: asking right now because clearly they were the ones funding
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  Speaker 1: the damn war. As I'm also having this conversation with
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  Speaker 1: you about Putin right now, I want you to know
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  Speaker 1: that we're getting unconfirmed reports that Vladimir Putin was rushed to.
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  Speaker 2: The Kremlin in Moscow.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The reports are coming from Russian telegram channels that are
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  Speaker 1: posting videos of the motorcade and him being rushed to
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  Speaker 1: the Kremlin. Why would this be happening, because it's very
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  Speaker 1: clear I think Donald Trump's not screwing around Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to go back and read the statement
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  Speaker 1: that he put out on True Social and this is
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  Speaker 1: again goes back to leadership quote.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not looking to hurt Russia.
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  Speaker 1: I love the Russian people and always had a very
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  Speaker 1: good relationship with President Putin.
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  Speaker 2: And this despite the.
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  Speaker 1: Radical lefts Russia Russia Russia hoax, we must never forget
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  Speaker 1: that Russia helped us win the Second World War, losing
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  Speaker 1: almost sixty million lives in the process. All of that
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  Speaker 1: being said, I'm going to do Russia, whose economy is
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  Speaker 1: failing and President Putin a very big favor.
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  Speaker 2: Settle now and stop this ridiculous war.
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  Speaker 1: It's only going to get worse if we don't make
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  Speaker 1: a deal soon. I have no other choice but to
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  Speaker 1: put high levels of taxes, tariffs, and sanctions on anything
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  Speaker 1: being sold by Russia to the United States and various
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  Speaker 1: other participating countries. Let's get this war which never should
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  Speaker 1: have started if I were president, which never would have
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  Speaker 1: started if I were president, I should say over with.
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  Speaker 1: We can do it the easy way or the hard way,
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  Speaker 1: and the easy way is always better.
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  Speaker 2: It's time to make a deal. No more lives should
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  Speaker 2: be lost.
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  Speaker 1: You know, for a guy that they said was going
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: to start World War three, that's one hell of a
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  Speaker 1: way does not start World War three. A reporter also
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  Speaker 1: asking the president another question about this, and here is
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  Speaker 1: what the President said.
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  Speaker 2: Moments ago, you pull for a ceasefire.
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  Speaker 4: In Ukraine, the labor group doesn't come to the table
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  Speaker 4: to negotiate with you. Will you put additional sanctions on Russia?
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  Speaker 2: It sounds likely.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think that the war should be frozen currently alone?
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  Speaker 4: The war should have never started if you had a
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  Speaker 4: competent president, which you did, and the war wouldn't have happened.
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  Speaker 4: The war in Ukraine would have never happened I president.
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  Speaker 4: But that couldn't happen because the election was rigged.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just recap this twenty four to forty eight
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  Speaker 1: hours of massive movement.
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  Speaker 2: Trump becomes president. He shuts down the funding.
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  Speaker 1: He says, you ain't getting it from US, Ukraine and
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  Speaker 1: Russia if you don't stop this damn war. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that you suffer and your economy suffers
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  Speaker 1: massive consequences that we both know you can't afford. So
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  Speaker 1: the moment that Trump was horn in, Russia changed their policy.
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  Speaker 1: The President Putin declared on state TV that he was
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  Speaker 1: ready for a long term peace with Ukraine and says
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  Speaker 1: Russia's open for dialogue with President Trump. This goes back
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  Speaker 1: to what Donald Trump said if he was elected.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to have peace through strength.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have the same policy, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to use these sanctions in a hardcore way. And the
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  Speaker 1: threat clearly seems to have worked, because I think Vadimir
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  Speaker 1: Putin understand he's not blinking. It's not a threat if
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  Speaker 1: you're going to do it, it's a reality, and he's
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  Speaker 1: reading the room and he understands that Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 1: going to do what he says he's going to do
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  Speaker 1: to do and Zelenski understands he didn't have the money
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  Speaker 1: to do what he's doing right now without American dollars
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  Speaker 1: paying for it, subsidizing this death and destruction. Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: also said, I have a very good relationship with Putin's Zlensky.
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  Speaker 1: I hope we can get more relations with us. Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump said, then, well, it takes two to tango.
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  Speaker 2: How do we know this was said, Well, the video
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  Speaker 2: has been released.
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  Speaker 1: The president making clear is Elynski like, hey, dude, you're
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: not my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you're not my guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and treat you like
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  Speaker 1: America has been treating you with just with open arms,
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  Speaker 1: unlimited funds.
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  Speaker 4: So we have a very good relationship, and I also
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  Speaker 4: have a very good relationship, as you know, with President Putin.
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  Speaker 2: And I think if we win, I think we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get it resolved very quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Word.
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  Speaker 4: I really think to get.
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  Speaker 2: Normal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, it takes two.
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  Speaker 2: To tench takes two to tango.
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  Speaker 1: President Trump's like, screw you man, Like you're the guy
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  Speaker 1: out there hoarding all this money coming in from America.
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  Speaker 2: The amount of corruption. And this is what it really
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  Speaker 2: boils down to.
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  Speaker 1: And I think part of the reason why Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: there was not real friendly with with with Zelenski is
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  Speaker 1: he knows what he's dealing with.
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  Speaker 2: He's dealing with a thug. He's dealing with a con artist.
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  Speaker 2: He's dealing with a.
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  Speaker 1: Fake, you know, military general looking guy whears his fatigues
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  Speaker 1: on the front, you know, but has people doing hair
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  Speaker 1: and makeup for Vanny Fair when there's a quote war
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  Speaker 1: going on. This is a guy and the oligarchs in
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  Speaker 1: Ukraine that are getting rich off American dollars flowing into
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  Speaker 1: that country to quote stand up to Vladimir Putin. And
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: so now the gig is up. I'm sure he's sitting
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  Speaker 1: on billions. I'm sure his oligarks, his family members have
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: funneled billions into their pockets. They will never want or
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: need for the rest of their lives and their kids' lives.
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  Speaker 2: And they're grandkids lies.
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  Speaker 1: They are oligarchs now because of American dollars that they
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: have stolen.
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  Speaker 2: So what Trump understood was.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I need to find the pain point to
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  Speaker 1: get both men to the table. The pain point for
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  Speaker 1: Zelensky as you're out of money, and the pain point
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  Speaker 1: for Vladimir Putin was massive sanctions and going after the
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: oligarchs in Russia. That's the pain point here. It's actually
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: very simple. Is it is not hard to figure out
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: the math here. And so when Trump tells Putin to
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: end the Ukraine War now or else we can do
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  Speaker 1: it the easy way of the hard way, he's not flinching.
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  Speaker 2: He actually means it.
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  Speaker 1: You want to know who else, by the way, is
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: calling for an immediate end of the war after Trump
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: won the election, Hamas Donald Trump has been the president
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: now for a couple of days, and what we know
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: is that everyone is responding to the things that he
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: has said. Hamas is calling for the end to the
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: war in the Middle East because they don't want to
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  Speaker 1: screw with Trump. The Iran back Huthis announced the ceasefire,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: and Putin said he's ready to work towards peace. What
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: else do you need to know here? Donald Trump is
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: not a bs politician. He always backs up his words
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: with real actions, and only actions matter to these men.
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  Speaker 1: And unfortunately Zelenski knew that President Biden and the EU
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: did not have proper strategy or action to win against Putin.
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  Speaker 1: They knew that the money would flow in and they
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: would get risk they would get rich, and they knew
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: that there was going to be a lot of people
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: that were going to die while they were getting.
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  Speaker 2: Rich, and they were totally fine with it.
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  Speaker 1: There's one other thing I think you need to know,
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  Speaker 1: and this is also very very very interesting. Russian President
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  Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin not only did he say he's ready to
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: come to the table, but he also congratulated Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: on his inauguration and says that Russia is ready for
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  Speaker 1: quote peaceful relations with the US.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's very clear that.
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  Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin is spooked a little bit by Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: and they know.
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  Speaker 2: That he's not messing around.
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  Speaker 1: You look at just these late night moves where Putin
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: arrived at the Kremlin unusually late, and it comes, as
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Reuters reports, Trump is calling for an immediate meeting. I mean,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: this is midnight diplomacy or even something bigger brewing where
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: it's like wake his blank up and get him on
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  Speaker 1: the phone. And what happened, Well, apparently Vladimir Putin got
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: in the car and went to the Kremlin.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's now in this scenario.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: It's amazing, this is happening, and it's happening this fast. Now,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I go back to what I said at the very beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Does this sound like a guy that is trying to
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: start World War three? No, this is a guy that
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: is clearly going to use the economic mechanisms at his
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: disposal to get what he wants from people because he
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to go to war. And he's not listening
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: to the warmongers in Congress, are the people that are
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: begging for wars to break out so they can sell
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you ammunition and rockets and missiles. Like, that's not what
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Trump's going to allow to happen here. This is a
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: guy that doesn't want wars to break out. That's not
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: good for the industrial complex. Military industrial complex. They love war,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: they love Look the people.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: In Washington that are making money off this war between
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Ukraine and Russia, and the amount of money they're making
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: is astronomical. Like, make no mistake.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: How much money these contractors and these lobbyists are making
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: because there's war and the amount of money these company,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: these military contracts and these are making off of this war.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: They don't want it to end, they want it to expand.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And what Donald Trump is said, I don't give a
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: crap about you making money off of war. I care
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: about how many people are dying, and I want there
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: to be peace, and that, apparently, by the way, is
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: what we're about to get.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: And it looks like very quickly, all right.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I want to shift also to another story that we
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: actually talked about yesterday, and that was in that sit
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: down interview that President Trump did from the Oval Office,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: his first interview in the Oval Office, he gave to
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, and in that interview and I played it
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: for yesterday in the long version I have in the
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: yesterday show. So go back listen to that podcast if
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you want to hear it all. But what I want
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you to hear, okay, is something specifically that Donald Trump said,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and there has been some fallout from this. Trump was
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: asked about, you know, why didn't you pardon yourself and
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: he was like, look, I was told that I should
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: do this, I could do this.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't do it because we didn't do anything wrong.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: And so that's why I didn't pardon myself and others
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: around me preemptively. And then he goes into Joe Biden's
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: pardons and he also says, Joe Biden may have screwed
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: up by not pardoning himself.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Take a listen.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: He heard that I going to do I didn't want
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: to do it. I was given the option. They said, sir,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: would you like to pardon everybody, including yourself? I said,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to pardon anybody. We didn't do anything wrong,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: and we had people that suffered, their incredible patriots. We
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: had people that suffered. You had Bannon put in jail,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: you had Peter Navarro put in jail. You had people
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: that suffered, and far worse than that. They've lost their fortunes,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: they've lost their whatever, their nest egg, paying it to
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: lawyers and those people. And people said to you, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: they don't even They wouldn't have even taken most of
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: those people, they wouldn't have even taken a parton. This
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: guy went around giving everybody pardons, And you know that
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: the funny thing, maybe the sad thing, is he didn't
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: give himself a part.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: He didn't give himself a pardon.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Now I learned something today and I'm going to play
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: it for you because as I was doing the podcast
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I do with Sentertach Cruz, I asked him about this audio.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: And you're gonna hear his response to it. But he
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: also broke some news and I didn't know this. He said,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you know those that got all those pardons, well, guess what,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: including Fauci, We can call them back to Congress to
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: answer questions, and they cannot plead the fifth.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Let me say that again.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: They cannot plead the fifth Why because there is no
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: threat of actually self incrimination because they can't be charged
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: with crimes because they've been given a pardon, which means
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: they would then have to answer questions, and if they
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: chose not to answer questions, they could be inheld in
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: contempt of Congress, which then they would vote on in Congress,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: which would then go to the Department of Justice, which
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: is no longer run by the Democrats. It is run
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: by Donald Trump's administration. You see where I'm going with this.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: This was just mind blowing to me. Take a listen
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to what Center Cruz had to say. I want to
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: get your thoughts on something that was said in Trump's
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: first sit down interview that he did in the Oval office.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: He did it with our good friend John Hannity, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: he was asked about the pardons that Joe Biden gave
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: out and he made a comment, and I want to
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: get your reaction to it about, Hey, he may have
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: messed up because he didn't pardon himself.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Take a listen.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: He heard that I was going to do I didn't
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: want to do it. I was given the option. They said, sure,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: would you like to pardon everybody, including yourself. I said,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to pardon anybody. We didn't do anything wrong,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: and we had people that suffered, their incredible patriots. We
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: had people that suffered. You had Bennon put in jail,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: you had Peter Navarro put in jail. You had people
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: that suffered, and far worse than that. They've lost their fortunes,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: they've lost their whatever, their nest egg, paying it to
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: lawyers and those people and people said to you, and
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: they don't even they wouldn't have even taken most of
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: those people. They wouldn't have even taken a part. This
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: guy went around giving everybody pardons, and you know that
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: the funny thing, maybe the sad thing, is he didn't
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: give himself a parton.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: He didn't give himself a pardon.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Senator, I gotta I gotta ask you your take on
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: that is that is that a foreshadowing comment coming from
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: from Donald Trump.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: There, well, listen, it may well be. And we've been
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: been very clear. We've talked a lot on on on
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: Verdict about how the scandal with with Hunter Biden and
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: the Biden crime family was never about Hunter being a
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: you know, guy who abuses drugs and and and has
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: made a lot of wrong choices in life. The scandal
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: was always that the entire Biden family made millions of
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: dollars selling favors from the big guy, selling favors from
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Joe Biden. It was always about Joe Biden's corruption. And
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: we talked a lot about how the Biden doj that
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: the tell in terms of whether they were being politicized
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: on protecting Biden would be if they fought in the
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Hunter Biden investigation to protect Joe himself and to prevent
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: any inquiry into his corruption. If they kept it focused
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: on the drug crime or the gun crime, or even
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: the the the income tax crimes that were personal to
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Hunter rather than examining the corruption, That's exactly what they did.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: And so I think that corruption needs to be investigated.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: I think we need to enforce the law fairly regardless
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: of party. And I got to say, by the way
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: we predicted on this podcast when when the we number
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: one predicted the Hunter Biden pardon, and in fact I
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: put the odds of the hunder b and pardon at
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent. We even predicted the date. I said
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: it would be December of twenty twenty four. It happened
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: on December first of twenty twenty four. But second when
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: that happened, we went on this podcast and predicted said
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: he's going to pardon the rest of his family. Well
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: he did that on the very last day, moments before
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: he left office. He pardoned the rest of his family
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: because they were all involved in the corruption. They were
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: all involved in selling favors. And so right now the
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: only one with potential liability is Joe Biden himself. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: you know, Trump's right that it's interesting he didn't pardon himself. Well,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: we'll see if that has real consequences. By the way,
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: one of the results of all these pardons is that
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Congress can now subpoena the members of the Biden family
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: and force them to answer questions under oath, and they
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: don't have a Fifth Amendment right to decline to answer.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Really, okay, so a lot of people to know that
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: including me. So explain that.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: A little bit for everybody, because that is that is
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: big news.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: So the Fifth Amendment says that you can't be forced
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: to testify against yourself. Now, that only applies if you
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: have criminal jeopardy. If you can be prosecuted. Once you've
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: been pardoned, you have no criminal jeopardy, which means you
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: don't have the right to say, I'm not going to
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: answer that because I might incriminate myself in a crime.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: Because if it's a federal crime, you can't be prosecuted
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: for it, which means if you refuse to answer, you
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: can be held in contempt and put in jail. And
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: so it h it has changed.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I will be there's a very there's a very real
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: chance that members of the Biden crime family that were
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: pardon could be asked to come and testify in Congress
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and they would be forced to answer the questions for
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the reasons you just stated, yep.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: And if they don't, by the way, same is true
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: about Fauci that you know, you know, Biden pardon Fauci.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: That means Fauci doesn't have a Fifth Amendment right to
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: refuse to answer questions under oath. I certainly hope that
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: he's forced to answer those questions.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: And I got to say, so a hypotheticl You get
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Fauci in front of you, you start asking him questions
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and he just refuses to answer those questions.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Is that in contempt of Congress at that point.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Well, Congress has to vote to hold him in contempt
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: for refusing to answer those questions, and then the Department
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: of Justice has to prosecute him. I got to say,
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: I think if Congress voted to hold him in contempt,
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: I think DOJ would prosecute him. And by the way,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: to be clear, the Biden Department of Justice Trump mentioned
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: putting Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro in prison. They did
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: that because they held them in contempt to Congress. And
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: that was even aside from from pleading the fifth there
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: they just refused to testify, they argued, they asserted executive privilege,
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: and DOJ prosecuted them after Congress, after the House voter
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: to hold him in contempt of Congress.
• 27:44
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