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Hollywood Producer Will Packer talks HBCUs and earning more than $1 billion at the box office · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: decision maker. His name is Will Packer. Will Packers an
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  Speaker 1: HPCU graduate of Family and holds a Bachelor of Science
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  Speaker 1: degree and electrical engineering. His company, Will Packer Production has
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  Speaker 1: produced films that have earned more than one billion dollars
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  Speaker 1: at the box office, and ten of those films have
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  Speaker 1: opened at number one, including Girls, Trip, Night School. Uh goodness, man,
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  Speaker 1: my movies. You don't think like a bad thing like
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  Speaker 1: a bad to ride Long, Ride Long? Whoa obsessed breaking
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  Speaker 1: in up to y'all Come on now is on the
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  Speaker 1: shiltern talking about HBCUTH changing your career, narrative, self promotion,
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  Speaker 1: and the many projects he is currently producing and have
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  Speaker 1: on his production schedule. Please working to money making conversation,
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  Speaker 1: my man Will Packer, Hey, what's happened my friends? You've
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  Speaker 1: been having me well, I thank you man. You know
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  Speaker 1: our journey man has been an interesting one and uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know for as your career and just seen you
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  Speaker 1: open up. But one thing I've always noticed about you
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  Speaker 1: will you can kind of change the narrative as a producer.
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  Speaker 1: You've always been out front promoting what you do along
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  Speaker 1: with some of your projects, and it's really changing the
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  Speaker 1: narrative caause now everybody does it properly and I don't
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  Speaker 1: see nothing wrong because you really understood social media from
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  Speaker 1: a producing standpoint as an individual early on. What drove that?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's interestary Shine, you hit it on the head. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Film and television has always been a director's meeting, and
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that at all. But those typically
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  Speaker 1: we're the only names that you knew, the stars of course,
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  Speaker 1: and then the directors. Well, when I came in as
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  Speaker 1: a producer, I knew how important it was to connect
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  Speaker 1: with an ardience. And I'll be honest with you to Sean,
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  Speaker 1: that really started with my journey at FAMU because I
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  Speaker 1: made my first film project, which was Chocola City, while
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  Speaker 1: I was still a an undergraduate at FAMU. I was
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  Speaker 1: a junior. We shot Chocolate City, This a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of movie. We didn't know, you know, what it was
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  Speaker 1: gonna do. We didn't really know what we were doing,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but we had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of dry a lot of passion, a lot of hustles,
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  Speaker 1: and in order for that film to be successful, I
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  Speaker 1: had to go out to my audience, my core audience,
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  Speaker 1: which at that time was my family peers that those
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  Speaker 1: were the only people that cared about that movie at
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  Speaker 1: that time. We tried to send into Hollywood and they
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  Speaker 1: sent it back to Big Friday and Sears, and they
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  Speaker 1: sent it back to try to send it the big actors.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't even have the courtesy to send it back
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  Speaker 1: to John They but that's part of the journey, that's
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  Speaker 1: what it takes. And I realized I needed to go
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  Speaker 1: out and explain to that audience why they should care
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  Speaker 1: about this family. And that really started something that I
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  Speaker 1: still do to this day, which is going out and
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  Speaker 1: trying to touch people with every project that I had,
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  Speaker 1: trying to connect with people. Back in the days after
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  Speaker 1: Chocolate City, which was that first movie we shot at
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  Speaker 1: fam You, we made a movie called Ta and with
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  Speaker 1: Ta We literally drove all around the country. We drove
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  Speaker 1: city to city to city. We rented a Ford Excursion,
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  Speaker 1: which which was a bad plan. I realized now I'm sean,
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  Speaker 1: because it takes so much gas. It was a big gas.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have any money, so we spent almost all
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  Speaker 1: our promotion money trying to fill up that big old truck.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what it took. And we went to each
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  Speaker 1: city and we would tell people literally hand out flying
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  Speaker 1: we go to the mall, we go to the church,
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  Speaker 1: and we go to the club wherever people were, and
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  Speaker 1: we'd say, please go see our movies. Please go see
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  Speaker 1: our movie. Well a version of that is what we
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  Speaker 1: do and I still do to this day. Now we've
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  Speaker 1: got social media. You talk about us on your show, Shan.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to use the tools that you have access to.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to use the resources that are available to you.
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  Speaker 1: And so with the advent of the social media and
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  Speaker 1: the digital landscape expanding the way that it has, I
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  Speaker 1: knew that I didn't needed to use that aspect of
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  Speaker 1: my promotion. My grassroots hustle to connect with people, and
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  Speaker 1: so that's exactly what we did with some of those
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  Speaker 1: big movies that you name. But it really started right
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  Speaker 1: there on the campus and family going and knocking on
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  Speaker 1: doors and trying to get people to care about the movie,
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  Speaker 1: getting them to understand it wasn't just something that was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be released, you know, on their campus and maybe
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  Speaker 1: they go, maybe they don't. I was going around telling
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  Speaker 1: people you have to go see this movie, and a
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  Speaker 1: version of that is what I still do to this day,
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  Speaker 1: do it very well. Now. But your electrical engineer, that
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  Speaker 1: was your degree plan? Okay, now, okay, it's really interesting
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  Speaker 1: because I always tell people, like, you know, I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be a stand up. I got my degree in mathematics,
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  Speaker 1: my mind and sociology. Just because I wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: in that direction didn't mean I need to change my
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  Speaker 1: degree plan. And I think it's really impressive, and I
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  Speaker 1: know you get the reaction. I get what I tell
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  Speaker 1: people about degrees in mathematics. When you tell people your
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  Speaker 1: electrical engineer, they always go huh and then but they said,
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  Speaker 1: but they said in a good way because they're stunned
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  Speaker 1: because they know how difficult it is to achieve because
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  Speaker 1: you was an unders graduate as well, and they have
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  Speaker 1: to re plan. So let's talk about that now, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I left my job. I left, I graduated math, I
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  Speaker 1: went to work for IBM, so everything was normal, and
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  Speaker 1: then I went to pursue my career as a stand
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  Speaker 1: up comic. You left college with your electrical engineer honors
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  Speaker 1: graduate and pursued a Hollywood career. What do people think
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  Speaker 1: that I was crazy? The same thing they thought about you.
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  Speaker 1: You know that when you left a good stable, corporate
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  Speaker 1: gig to change your dream and your passion, they said,
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  Speaker 1: didn't know where Hollywood was. We didn't have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of uh, Hollywood connections, We didn't have you know, big
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  Speaker 1: money and resources and all that. So people thought it
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  Speaker 1: was fanciful. They thought that I was just chasing a
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  Speaker 1: dream that was unlikely to ever be realized. But one
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  Speaker 1: a possibility of happening, and so um, I Yes, graduated
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  Speaker 1: magnicum laude with a degree in electrical engineering. And I
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  Speaker 1: got into electrical engineering because I was strong in math
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  Speaker 1: and science when I was coming up in high school
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  Speaker 1: and got a scholarship to attend FAM you in engineering.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of helped to shape that path because
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to go At the time that I first
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  Speaker 1: went into college, I didn't know that I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: but they weren't offering me a single dime and you
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  Speaker 1: was offering me a big old scott A ship to
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  Speaker 1: and now I was on Steve Harvey Morning Show and
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  Speaker 1: this movie Stump the Yard came out, and I and
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  Speaker 1: Steve Harvey and I we we would act well. I
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  Speaker 1: format allowed us to talk to all the black people
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  Speaker 1: in America. Wherefore we felt, you know, we're talking to
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  Speaker 1: all the black people with number one more thing shore
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  Speaker 1: in the country. And I told Steve as to Steve,
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  Speaker 1: let's make this movie. Let's really put some effort. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: made a media by, Nobody made the media by. But
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  Speaker 1: I said, we gotta start supporting because Steve has the
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  Speaker 1: ability and he has such a loyal and passionate fan base.
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  Speaker 1: I said, let's drive this movie. Let's let's push this
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  Speaker 1: movie and make it number one. And I didn't even know,
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  Speaker 1: you just felt that black projects at that time, especially
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  Speaker 1: your movie, and it was about fraternity these, it was
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  Speaker 1: about hbcuth School. It was hit. It hit all of
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  Speaker 1: the uh the points that I wanted to support, and
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  Speaker 1: it became number one, and unknowingly that was a really
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  Speaker 1: a strong lynch point pen to launching your brand. Correct. Well, listen,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's what you saw was potential in a young
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  Speaker 1: black filmmaker that you didn't know. You saw a project
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  Speaker 1: that had the right themes and the right elements that
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  Speaker 1: needed to be out there, right, and you supported you
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  Speaker 1: use your platform that you were associated with at that
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  Speaker 1: time to help elevate it. That's what we can all
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  Speaker 1: do every day, the projects that you see a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people sit back and talk about stuff, right, you
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  Speaker 1: know we should. There should be more movies like this,
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  Speaker 1: more content like this, more more politicians like this. But
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  Speaker 1: you have the power. Are you putting your brand your money?
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  Speaker 1: And I don't mean you have to be Rashya McDonald
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  Speaker 1: or even wild Packing, right, you can just be somebody
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  Speaker 1: at home. You're voting with your dollars, you're voting with
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  Speaker 1: your clicks, You're voting with you at the balance box.
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  Speaker 1: Literally voting, but people don't utilize their power enough. So
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  Speaker 1: you use your platform, which helped to elevate what we
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  Speaker 1: were trying to do. And if it weren't for people
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  Speaker 1: like yourself and others that came in and said, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go and support this movie, right, this is the type.
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  Speaker 1: So these are the types of stories that we want
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  Speaker 1: to see on the big screen. There's no way we
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  Speaker 1: would have been number one movie in the country for
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  Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: that was because people came out and supported that movie.
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  Speaker 1: And so I try to make sure that people realize
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  Speaker 1: you still have that power today. You don't have to
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  Speaker 1: be some big celebrity figure. You got a network whoever
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  Speaker 1: you are, You've got people that you talked to. I
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  Speaker 1: don't care if is that the Nelson Lion, Barbershop, online, Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is. You're talking to people, You're connecting with people.
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  Speaker 1: How are you using your network? How are you using
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  Speaker 1: your own personal plator? Well, you know that you have
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  Speaker 1: a highlight ability and that's really important. I remember that
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  Speaker 1: when Steve already book blew up, Act like a lady,
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  Speaker 1: Think like a man, and uh I remember Oprah came
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  Speaker 1: to us about a book opportunity. Uh, screen Jims came
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  Speaker 1: to an opportunity. We all said no. And then this
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  Speaker 1: black dude who had never met my knife name Will Packer,
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  Speaker 1: called me say, hey, man, let's talk. Let's talk, and
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  Speaker 1: flew down to Dallas would be a Steve and drove
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  Speaker 1: around and convinced us, man that that's a skill. Will
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  Speaker 1: you know that's that's a skill, because I say, no, easy,
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  Speaker 1: real easy, And but you have learned to be able
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  Speaker 1: to disseminate the positive and why this will work, and
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  Speaker 1: even because you know we will how much. Just tell
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  Speaker 1: everybody Steve and I envisioned this to be a white
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  Speaker 1: cast and you said no. Rachelle, I got this guy
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  Speaker 1: named Kevin Hard, and I really didn't know Kevin Hard
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  Speaker 1: like you knew Kevin Hart. You know you should reshard
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  Speaker 1: this guy. He's the next, next one. He's the next
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  Speaker 1: I said, I said, Steve, he's gonna Steve, Steve being
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  Speaker 1: Steve Hard. I said, he wants Kevin Hard to start it.
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  Speaker 1: I said, he's Steve s okay, Kevin Hard. Huh? I
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  Speaker 1: said yeah, he said he's the one, and so we
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  Speaker 1: trusted you, and the rest is history. How do you
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  Speaker 1: see talent like that, and because that's what's happening to
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  Speaker 1: all your movies, all your problem. You're not number one
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  Speaker 1: by accident. You have a skill to be able to
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  Speaker 1: see talent and cast it along with great storylines. Talk
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  Speaker 1: to us about that. Apreciate you. I appreciate you saying
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  Speaker 1: average him, But I also want to give give some
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  Speaker 1: love back to you because if you don't take that
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  Speaker 1: call right you had a lot of people that were
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  Speaker 1: calling you, trying to get into your universe, trying to
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  Speaker 1: get on there with you and Steve and being you
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  Speaker 1: guys world. But you took the call and you gave
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  Speaker 1: me an opportunity, and I really do appreciate that. Brother.
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want to say that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in front of everybody, because if you don't have that opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: if I don't have somebody like you that that takes
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that call, uh, it makes it so much harder for
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: me to get to that next level. And that's basically
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing when it comes to talent like like
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Kevin hard or or or address Elba, Tippety Hattes, some
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: people I'm very proud to have have worked with on
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: some of their early projects that kind of launched them
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: into into superstardom. They've got the talent, right, It's not
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: that that you know, Um, I've had anything to do
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: with Kevin's talent, even amazing comedian and actors saying with
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Tiffany Say with interest in their own rights and other
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: people that I've worked with. But I did have a platform, right,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I had the movie that at that time was a
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: foundation for them to be a launching path for their careers.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I'm very proud of them. But I gotta be able
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: to take the call right like you took the call.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And I also do have to be able to ascertain
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: who I think has got talent that is I'm gonna
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: call it big screen worthy for the purposes of this conversation, Right, everybody,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: there's some great talent out there that work really well
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: on say Instagram or or on TikTok, and everybody is
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: not set up to be the star of a big
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: television show or a big movie. You do have to
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and this is something that I've phoned over the years,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you do have to be able to ascertain whether or
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: not talent has something that is transferable, because all talent
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: is not. But Kevin, for instance, would think like a man.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: He definitely had a transferable skill set, and you aren't
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: the only one that was saying, you know who's Kevin
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Hart was the big deal? All the Hollywood was saying
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: trust me, like there was you know, there were not
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of people knocking down Kevin door because it
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: has some products that had come out before that that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: had failed, right, they were not successful. So people felt like,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: we know Kevin Hart, and we know what the ceiling
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: of his talent is and it's not very high. Whereas
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I felt like that's not true. He was having a
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: moment at that time. People were really connecting with him,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: and I felt like if he just had the right platform,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: he could take it to the next level. So that
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: mirror is the story that you told about how you
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: know when you and Steve allowed me to come down
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to Dallas and pitch the movie. It's the same thing.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: You need an opportunity, You need somebody to give you
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a chance to listen to you and to see your talent.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: You know, It's funny. I talked to people all the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: time about perception, about perception, I tell everybody if Vice
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: President and Kamala Harris didn't tell anybody what schools she
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: went through, they would immediately say Ivy League. They would
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: meedily say Ivy League. And so if Will Packard didn't
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: hype the fact he graduated from FAMI, you they would
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: probably say in USC Film School U c l A.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: They would immediately throw you in the because that's what
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to be coming from, according to the industry,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: according to perception. But you're an HBCU Grant tell us, Wow,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the difference that made in your life and how you
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: caring at that mantra live everybody know the quality of
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: education and opportunity that is being presented to African Americans,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: all people of color are those schools, and they're changing
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the landscape of America. Yeah, education at the highest levels.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing that um sometimes people even black people,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: uh don't realize and give hbc US enough credit for
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it is education at the highest level. More importantly though,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: because you can get a great education at a lot
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: of different places. What you don't get is the sense
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: of community that creates a Kamala Harris, that creates a
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Will Packer, that creates an Oprah Winfrey, that creates a Spikely,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that creates so many folks that have come out of
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: these HBCUs and going on to greatness. There's a sense
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: of community. There's a feeling of you are good enough,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: you are important enough, and a a pressure that is
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: in the best way to push you to get to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the next level. See, I was somebody that had taken
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: advantage of the fact that I was very often the
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: only black kid in the honors classes and the ap
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: classes um at my high school because I grew up
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: in St. Pete, Florida, and and my high school was
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: only temperasent black, and so often times I was the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: only kid in the honors class. I got a lot
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: of attention, right, and I've got a lot of the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: white kids and white teachers and administrators, frankly who underestimated me.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: And I was savvy enough and strategic enough to take
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: advantage of that. When when I went to fail, they
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: weren't impressed. They were like, we all came from the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: honors class, right, we all know how to talk to talk,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Like you know how to talk, will pack. We're not
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: impressed by you. You gotta do more, you gotta do
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: something else to make yourself stand out. And it really
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: honed the skills that I used today being pitching a
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: movie or selling a project, or like you talked about
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the likability factor, trying to get people to support what
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: it is that I'm doing. I learned all of that
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: at Family. So I'm a big proponent of FAMI, you
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and and HBCUs in general. And the thing I think
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: people don't realize is that they're not monolithic, and they
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: are truly a pipeline. So many of our professionals, I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: don't care if you're talking about entertainment industry, um, the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: stock market, doctors, teachers, pharmacists, so many of them come
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: from HBC. Is the pipeline is unquestionable, unquestioned and unmatched.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Right it really is? It really is? Now you know
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you've read lately on TV become a relationship man. You
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: know you've been our match maker king. Now you know
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Peter ring on it and got my boy and nephew
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Tommy hosting Ready to Love on own. Now how you
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: how you become how you get it to the relationship game?
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I know, thinking like a man, but that was just
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: a movie there. But now you've become a relationship king,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the Black relationship King on TV. Talk to us about that?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Will I like, how that sound. But I take that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I'll wear that. I wear that crowd. Uh. You know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I think it was an opportunity man opportunity that honestly
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: really did start with Things Like a Man. Things Like
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: a Man was the first relationship movie that I did
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: that really was big. And Uh. It started with the
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: conversation frankly with Oprah. I have a relationship with own
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and with Discovery, who is the parent company that that
• 22:12
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• 22:15
  Speaker 1: went to to Oprah's house promising land and talk to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: her about what I thought was missing. That's what she
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: asked me, where are the opportunities on my network? What
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: is missing? And I said, one of the first things
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I said, I pitched a couple shows, but one of
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the first ones was I said, you know, where are
• 22:31
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• 22:35
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• 22:38
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• 22:40
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• 22:42
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• 22:45
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• 22:47
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• 22:59
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• 23:02
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• 23:05
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  Speaker 1: transitioning um to another great Black film director and producers
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Tyler Perry. And Tyler Perry was talking about you know,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: he'll call people when he cast him. A lot of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: time when they kid casting in this project, he'll call
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: him and and and you know a lot of them
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: don't think it's a prank phone call. Not really. I
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: was talking to interview and nephew talking me. He said,
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  Speaker 1: when you called him about Ready to Love, he thought
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: he was being a prank because he's the king up ranks.
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  Speaker 1: So so when does it get now when you make
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the phone call? Where? Because I know, you make the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: call and tell people, and it's a blessing to tell
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: people they've been cast in different projects. When you started
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: noticing the turn, because first you're just doing your job
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and just happy. But your Will pack you are a brand.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: You are in some ways, let's be honest, a career maker,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: because you can put people in leaving roads, your boxer,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: box office, a star. So that phone call that you make,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: now it's a little bit different. Now the talent isn't
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: it's different. You're right, and I appreciate saying every shot
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: it is. Uh. It feels good to be in a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: position to get people opportunities because you're talking about folks
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that have worked very, very hard to get in the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: position that they're in to be noticed by someone like
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Will Packer, who has a platform, who has a show,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: who has a movie, right, and so you worked hard
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: to get yourself in that position. When you do get
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that call, it's amazing. It's nothing like it. It's a
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: true validation not only of the work you put in,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: but of your talent, because I can't hire everybody that
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: works hard. A lot of people work hard, but you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: gotta work hard. You gotta have the talent. You gotta
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: have them both and be focused and be persistent, because
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: you could be talented and working hard and still not
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: get a call from a Will Packer. Tyler Barry anybody.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: It's very possible. Right, But if you are focused and persistent,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you keep working and if you got that talent, you
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: just keep getting better and better and better. I think
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I am a big believer that the opportunity will present
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: itself and then it's on you to take advantage when
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you have that moment. Don't let that moment pass you by.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: And see that sometimes too, Rishan, I see people that, um,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: they're not ready when the opportunity presents itself, right, maybe
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: not mature enough, maybe not focused enough. Um. And that's unfortunately,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: because you don't know how many of those shots you're
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: gonna get. When you get that shot you're taking, you're taking,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: you go for you run with it and never let
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it go. That's what somebody like Kevin Hard or Tivity
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Hass has done. You know, I really appreciate that. But
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: also the reason I love talking to you because you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: we we can laugh at each other and tease each other.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: You tell somebody will see Will will well, you know
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: he threw he threw out a conversation during this interview
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: like it was no big deal. Well, you know, Oprah
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: asked me, what do you think what's missing on my network?
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Oprah asked me, Now, you know, well, when do you
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: get to the point your life that Oprah asked anybody?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: She asked you and you're like, where I think, Oprah?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: You know, can you give me a glass of wine?
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: And you got that was a little bit of a
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: name that has a big name. That's a perion there,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: black woman, Okay, who is defined blackness for us all
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the last twenty years of our life. But you're sitting
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: right there now, Will, when we see so many elegant
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: African Americans in the entertainment business that are getting deals,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that are getting that being being recognized for the black
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: culture is now being viable and it's not on the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: streaming networks but the film and network television. That has
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: to make you feel good. Will, I fact makes me
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: feel good to be a part of it. Right. Um,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I am now looking at another generation coming up behind me.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: This everything runs in cycles and the film and is
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: is no different. And so when I was coming up,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I was able to look at people like Spike Lee,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: like the Huddling Brothers, like the Huge Brothers. These were
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: filmmakers that John Singleton God blessed Soul. These were people
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: that were making movies when I was trying to get
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: in Robert Towns and I would look at them and say, Bam,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to do what they're doing. Right. I
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: got my shot, and I've been very blessed and very
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: fortunate to have a lot of success within that industry.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Now when I look at this new prop of filmmakers
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: that's coming up, I see this cycle, I see this
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: new wave, and it's so man, it is so um.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: It's really validating, Mi Sean. I'll be honest with you,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: because it feels like, Okay, the work that I put in,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: laid the pen, laid the foundation, and and put in
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the groundwork so that this next generation can come in
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: and I hope surpass everything you know that I've ever done.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I got ten number ones. I hope someday that's somebody
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: with twenty number ones at the box office. Box office
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit different now, you know the way that
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: they do. You know, everything is on streaming, so we'll
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: see that that record might stand for a while. But
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the point is that there are a lot a lot
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of new African American filmmakers that have a chance to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: tell their stories. And I'm hopeful that my success because
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: this industry is all about success, right, somebody has a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: big movie, makes a bunch of money. Hollywood wants the next.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Who else can do what they do? You know, give
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: us the next you know Ryan Kubin, right, give us
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the next Shaka King, you know Judice in the Black Masside,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Give us the next whoever it is. Well, I'm hopeful
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: that Will Packer made some of the folks in the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: industry say we need another World pack We need to
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: work with some more black producers because they can be
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: successful the way that Will Packer was And that, honestly,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that's legacy, and that's really what you're doing for. Honestly,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's what I'm most
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: proud of my legs. Well, I've always been most proud
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of the fact that you understood value because you understood
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Roshan number one. I remember when we were after we
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: did think like a man. We were talking on the phone.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: You go here for Sean. Put a little extra juice
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: so on this one, you know, because y'all hyping up
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: as a little bit more because I want to be
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: number one. You knew as far as your brand by
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: hanging on to that. Montro are releasing number ones, it
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: would pay off down the line. And it's like I said, ten,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: that is nothing that well, let me tell yourself, never
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: been done before. Okay, white or black, never been done before,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: and so but you always have a vision about that.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Now that leads to these upcoming projects that you have
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: coming up ed Universal and then you're also developed a
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: dog Williams bio pick talk about the upcoming projects and
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the podcast that you have roling out again the will
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: pack of brand. You know what, first of all, I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: got amazing team around me, Rashan, and I want everybody
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: listening to this to know that, like, at the end
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: of the day, you're only as strong as your team,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: right It's it's my name is at the top of
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the of the company letterhead and all of that. But
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I got good people
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: around me. And so as you're looking to build yourself
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: up and and do what we've talked about in this interview,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: make sure you got to write people around you. Uh.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: And we're busy, man, we are busy. We are We
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: announced in a podcast deal with my Heart. As you know, um,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: one of the the major, the biggest in terms of podcasting,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: the one the major audio services that are out there.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So we're doing podcast We've got one dropping this summer.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: It's a narrative podcast. So it literally is us getting
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: a chance to develop stuff which may turn out to
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: be a movie or a television show later, but it's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: starting off in the podcast format. Um, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: shoot with in your Selvil, who we talked about, uh
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  Speaker 1: this summer. I've got a movie called Beast that I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited about it. In Yourselvi's he's uh he's trapped in
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  Speaker 1: fun escapist fair. Um so that's good. And then we've
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  Speaker 1: got um a television show called Bigger, which is airing
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  Speaker 1: Then of course you talked about raiding love on Friday Nights.
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  Speaker 1: I got another relationship show called put a Ring on
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  Speaker 1: It about couples that have been dating for a very
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  Speaker 1: long time but have never gotten married, and they do
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  Speaker 1: the social experiment where they see what would happen if
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  Speaker 1: you allow your significant other to date someone else for
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  Speaker 1: dirty days does it make your relationship stronger? Does it
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  Speaker 1: Ring on It? And that was yeah, man, that that was.
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  Speaker 1: That was over his face when I pitched her that
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  Speaker 1: one too, exactly, just you say, oh, you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: overcoming adversity. He is the epitome, the troop personification of that.
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  Speaker 1: Doug Williams first black quarterback ever to win a Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl m v p UM a personal hero of mine.
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  Speaker 1: We're actually doing a story with Sean, Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: bringing that up. We're doing his story as a big
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  Speaker 1: screen biopic um and he deserves the big screen telling.
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  Speaker 1: He is the precursor to Russell, with Wilson and Patrick
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  Speaker 1: He was the first one to go out and succeed
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