Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Zelda Sayre - TPR's In Focus - March 5, 2026
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- 0:00Support comes from the Janice Hawkins Cultural Arts Park
- 0:03on the main campus of Troy University,
- 0:06featuring the International Arts Center,
- 0:09the Fred Nall Hollis Museum,
- 0:11and the Huo Bao Zhu Gallery.
- 0:18From Troy Public Radio, this is In Focus,
- 0:24and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:26March is Women's History Month,
- 0:29and today we delve into the story of Zelda Sayre
- 0:33and who she was before she met F. Scott Fitzgerald in 1918
- 0:39and later married him.
- 0:41Our guest is Tisha Rose, Executive Director
- 0:44of the Montgomery County Historical Society,
- 0:47based at the historic Phi Pickett House.
- 0:51And this month, the group honors the contributions
- 0:54of Zelda Sayre and those who influenced her.
- 0:58♪♪
- 1:05Tisha Rose, welcome back to Troy Public Radio.
- 1:09Thank you, Carolyn, for having me.
- 1:11Always love being here.
- 1:13One of the most exciting women in history
- 1:16in the capital city is Zelda Sayre Fitzgerald.
- 1:20How is the Montgomery County Historical Society
- 1:24honoring her memory this month?
- 1:26So we have a great exhibit right now called
- 1:29Zelda's Muses, the Women of Montgomery.
- 1:32And the exhibit is a collaboration
- 1:36with the Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald Museum,
- 1:38as well as Dixie Art Colony Foundation.
- 1:41And it explores Zelda's Southern roots
- 1:44and the creative women who inspired and surrounded her.
- 1:48Coming up next week on March the 11th,
- 1:51you have a Lunch and Learn at the Phi Pickett House.
- 1:56What's that going to be about?
- 1:58So our brown bag lunches accompany
- 2:01each of the exhibits that we do.
- 2:04They always take place from 1130 until about one.
- 2:08They're free and open to the public,
- 2:11and people are encouraged to bring a sack lunch
- 2:13if they choose.
- 2:15And this talk is going to be presented by Elena Doten,
- 2:20who is the executive director at the Fitzgerald Museum.
- 2:24And she's going to talk about Zelda and Anne Goldthwaite,
- 2:28a time together here in Montgomery.
- 2:31So the larger idea behind this exhibit
- 2:35was birthed out of a question
- 2:39that Elena Doten at the Fitzgerald had.
- 2:42And that was, who was Zelda
- 2:45before the day that she met Scott?
- 2:49Was she an artist then?
- 2:51She was.
- 2:52She was full of creativity and energy and enthusiasm.
- 2:59That was because she was surrounded
- 3:03by these incredible women, starting with her mother,
- 3:08Minnie Minkinsayer, who started the Press and Authors Club.
- 3:14She co-founded a group called the Honeybees,
- 3:17which was a literary and music society.
- 3:21Who were some of Zelda's contemporaries?
- 3:25Marie Bankhead Owen,
- 3:26who was the first woman in the United States
- 3:31to lead a state archive.
- 3:35She was one of the women that surrounded Zelda.
- 3:40Tallulah Bankhead, who was a famous actress,
- 3:44was Marie Bankhead Owen's niece
- 3:47and a friend of Zelda's.
- 3:49And then you have Anne Goldthwaite,
- 3:51who became a world renowned painter.
- 3:56She was born here in Montgomery
- 3:59and she and Zelda were here at different times
- 4:02and would paint together.
- 4:04You seem to be saying that these friends,
- 4:07these women were ahead of their time.
- 4:10They were, they were trailblazing.
- 4:12They were doing incredible things.
- 4:15All of these women grew up here in Montgomery.
- 4:20They made an impact here locally,
- 4:23but they also did things that contributed
- 4:26beyond just our small town.
- 4:30And in the case of Anne Goldthwaite,
- 4:32she was a world renowned painter, printmaker, and educator.
- 4:37Her work is in major museums,
- 4:40including our Montgomery Museum of Fine Arts.
- 4:43Didn't she partner with the Dixie Art Colony
- 4:46while she was here?
- 4:48She did.
- 4:48That is part of her history.
- 4:51And Dixie Art Colony was a group of people
- 4:56who were working with Kelly Fitzpatrick
- 5:00to learn from him and from one another.
- 5:04And they met in various places in Montgomery
- 5:08and Lake Martin around our area for many years.
- 5:12And Anne participated in that group
- 5:15during her time in Montgomery.
- 5:16Tisha, I remember from one of your earlier visits
- 5:19that you told us that the Fye Pickett House
- 5:22was the oldest brick house in Montgomery.
- 5:26Can you give us a little bit more of its history
- 5:28since it will be hosting this occasion next week?
- 5:32Love to talk about the Fye Pickett House.
- 5:35It is the oldest remaining brick structure in Montgomery
- 5:41built in 1837 by John Fye,
- 5:45who was a well-respected contractor during the time.
- 5:50And he also built the Klein Building
- 5:54and he helped rebuild the Capitol when it burned.
- 5:59That was the original builder and owner of this house.
- 6:04And then the house was purchased
- 6:07by Colonel Albert Pickett, Alabama's first historian.
- 6:13And he was moving to Montgomery,
- 6:15this is why he purchased the house,
- 6:17because he was ill and he wanted to be in town.
- 6:22But unfortunately, Pickett died
- 6:25before he ever lived in the house.
- 6:28His wife lived in this house for many, many years.
- 6:32And Tisha, the Fye Pickett House
- 6:35is conveniently located adjacent to I-85.
- 6:40Yes, it is very convenient for people in and out of town.
- 6:45We are located at 512 South Court Street,
- 6:49and we have plenty of parking
- 6:52to the rear inside of our building.
- 6:55We also have a lift for anybody who has mobility issues.
- 7:01It takes somebody from the front entrance,
- 7:05lower level to our front porch and into the main room
- 7:10where all of our events are hosted.
- 7:12Putting together this exhibit about Zelda Sayre
- 7:15before she became Zelda Fitzgerald,
- 7:18was there anything about her earlier life
- 7:21that surprised you?
- 7:23You know, just staying on the theme of this exhibit,
- 7:27realizing that Zelda had all of these influences,
- 7:34that these women in this show
- 7:37were both mentors and muses for her,
- 7:42gave her the strength and courage to be
- 7:46and pursue her dreams,
- 7:49has really been an interesting thing to understand.
- 7:53You know, we've heard these women's names,
- 7:56but we don't make the connection
- 7:58of how they knew one another or that their lives overlapped.
- 8:03And that's been a really fun thing to do
- 8:05through this exhibit.
- 8:06She was a creative, independent, strong woman
- 8:12who had many interests and positive female influences
- 8:18far outside of her marriage and life with Scott Fitzgerald.
- 8:24Bring us back to March 11th, next Wednesday,
- 8:28and who's invited and what will be the topics
- 8:31for the Brown Bag Lunch and Learn?
- 8:34Next Wednesday, March the 11th,
- 8:36from 11.30 until about one o'clock
- 8:39here at the Phi Pickett House.
- 8:42Everybody is welcome.
- 8:43It is open to the public.
- 8:45We encourage you to bring your lunch if you would like.
- 8:49And the topic will be
- 8:50Zelda and Anne Goldthwaite's Time Together,
- 8:54presented by Elena Doughton,
- 8:57the Executive Director at the Scott
- 8:59and Zelda Fitzgerald Museum.
- 9:01The web information is m-c-h-s-a-l.org.
- 9:09Tisha, thank you so much for being our guest today.
- 9:13Thank you.
- 9:14Again, thanks for having me
- 9:16and happy Women's History Month.
- 9:19Joining us for Women's History Month was Tisha Rhodes,
- 9:23Executive Director
- 9:24of the Montgomery County Historical Society.
- 9:27More information about the March 11th event
- 9:30at the Phi Pickett House can be found at the website,
- 9:34m-c-h-s-a-l.org.
- 9:37Thanks for joining us for In Focus,
- 9:39which is a podcast on NPR One
- 9:42or wherever you get your podcasts.
- 9:45I'm Carolyn Hutcheson
- 9:46and this is listener-supported Troy Public Radio.