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Awakening, Incarnation & Free Will | Dean Graves on the Evolution of Consciousness · The Living Conversation

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  Foreign.
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  I'm
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  Anthony
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  Wright
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  and
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  I
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  am
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  your
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  co
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  host
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  today
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  on
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  the
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  Living
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  Conversation
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  with
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  Adam
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  Dietz.
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  Welcome,
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  everyone.
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  We
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  are
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  here
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  with
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  our
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  guest,
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  Dean
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  Graves.
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  And
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  Dean
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  is
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  an
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  author,
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  podcaster,
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  keynote
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  speaker,
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  mental
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  health
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  counselor,
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  and
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  meditation
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  and
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  mindfulness
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  guide.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  what
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  I
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  would
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  be
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  interested
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  to
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  learn
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  about
• 0:39
  you,
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  Dean,
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  first
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  is
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  what's
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  your
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  basis
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  for
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  your
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  excursion
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  into
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  these
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  areas?
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  The
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  basis
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  for
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  my
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  excursion
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  into
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  these
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  areas
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  is.
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  Is,
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  I
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  guess,
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  triggered
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  by
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  an
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  experience
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  that
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  we
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  are
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  all
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  programmed
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  to
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  have
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  at
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  some
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  point
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  in
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  time
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  or
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  another.
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  And
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  that
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  experience
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  is
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  often
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  referred
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  to
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  as
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  an
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  awakening.
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  Right.
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  Which
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  is
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  often
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  misunderstood
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  concept.
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  It
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  is
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  nothing
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  more
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  than
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  that
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  point
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  in
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  our
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  lives
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  when
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  we
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  come
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  to
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  the
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  awareness
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  that
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  all
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  the
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  stuff,
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  all
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  the
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  things
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  that
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  we've
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  been
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  doing
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  may
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  be
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  providing
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  us
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  with
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  what's
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  deemed
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  to
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  be
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  conventional
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  success,
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  but
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  it's
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  not
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  making
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  us
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  happier.
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  Right.
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  So
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  is
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  this.
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  And
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  go
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  ahead.
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  Sorry,
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  go
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  ahead.
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  Well,
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  I
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  was
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  wondering
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  about,
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  is
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  this
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  based
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  in
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  Asian
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  philosophy
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  or
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  Western,
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  or
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  do
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  you
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  even
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  classify
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  it
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  that
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  way?
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  It
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  is
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  a
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  universal
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  experience
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  that
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  we
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  are
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  programmed
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  to.
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  To
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  have.
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  Certainly
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  the
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  interpretations
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  and
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  the
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  preparation
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  for
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  that
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  experience
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  differed
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  greatly
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  with
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  Western
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  philosophy
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  from
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  Eastern
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  philosophy.
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  Right.
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  So.
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  But
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  the
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  end
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  result
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  is
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  ideally
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  the
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  same.
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  Okay.
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  So,
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  Adam,
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  you
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  had
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  some
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  questions
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  about
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  Dean's
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  mindfulness.
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  Well,
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  the
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  first
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  thing
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  I
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  wanted
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  to
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  circle
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  back
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  on,
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  Dean,
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  is
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  very
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  interesting
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  that
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  you
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  say
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  we're
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  programmed
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  to
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  have
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  this
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  awakening
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  experience.
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  And
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  we
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  had
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  a
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  previous
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  guest
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  on
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  maybe
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  a
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  month
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  ago
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  or
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  so,
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  Dr.
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  Nick
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  Egan,
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  and
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  his
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  expertise
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  is
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  in
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  Tibetan
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  Buddhism.
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  And
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  he
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  mentioned
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  something
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  that
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  was
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  very
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  curious.
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  And
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  it
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  reminds
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  me
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  very
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  closely
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  of
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  what
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  you're
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  mentioning
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  here,
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  that
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  in
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  Tibetan
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  Buddhism,
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  there's
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  a
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  thought
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  that
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  we
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  all
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  have
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  an
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  enlightenment
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  experience.
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  And
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  we.
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  It
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  comes
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  to
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  us
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  throughout
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  our
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  lives.
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  And
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  in
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  fact,
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  when
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  these
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  traditions,
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  they're
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  so
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  detailed.
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  He
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  actually
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  said
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  that
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  each
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  person
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  has
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  that
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  experience
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  to
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  the
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  point
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  where
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  it
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  adds
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  up
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  to
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  a
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  certain
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  amount
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  of
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  time
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  in
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  everyone's
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  life,
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  somewhere
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  around
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  three
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  years.
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  So
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  I
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  was
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  wondering
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  if
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  you
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  had
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  any
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  thoughts
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  connecting
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  that
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  or
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  how
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  that
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  relates
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  to
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  your
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  work,
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  if
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  at
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  all.
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  Well,
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  yes.
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  The
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  teachings
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  of
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  the
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  Buddha,
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  however,
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  interpreted
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  since
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  their
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  presentation,
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  are
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  strategic
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  to
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  all
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  of
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  our
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  awareness
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  process.
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  There
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  is
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  there
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  we
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  all.
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  We
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  exist
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  as
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  humans.
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  We
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  exist
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  in
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  both
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  the
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  metaphysical
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  world
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  and
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  the
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  physical
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  world
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  simultaneously.
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  Our
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  enduring
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  self
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  is
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  our
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  metaphysical
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  self,
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  which
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  is
• 3:39
  a
• 3:39
  consciousness
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  pattern.
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  It
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  is
• 3:41
  not
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  a
• 3:41
  physical
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  being
• 3:42
  as
• 3:42
  we
• 3:43
  perceive
• 3:44
  ourselves
• 3:45
  to
• 3:45
  be.
• 3:46
  We
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  experience
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  a
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  multitude
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  of
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  incarnations.
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  The
• 3:52
  average
• 3:53
  human
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  has,
• 3:54
  by
• 3:54
  this
• 3:54
  stage
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  of
• 3:55
  our.
• 3:55
  Our
• 3:56
  experience
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  in
• 3:57
  creation
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  has
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  experienced
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  over
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  3,000
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  incarnations,
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  many
• 4:02
  as.
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  Many
• 4:03
  as
• 4:04
  much
• 4:04
  as
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  8,000
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  incarnations.
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  And
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  they're
• 4:08
  very
• 4:09
  purposeful.
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  They
• 4:11
  are
• 4:11
  how
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  we
• 4:12
  learn
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  and
• 4:13
  what
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  we
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  learn
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  during
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  an
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  incarnation
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  accrues
• 4:17
  to
• 4:18
  our
• 4:18
  metaphysical
• 4:19
  self
• 4:19
  and
• 4:20
  modifies,
• 4:20
  reforms
• 4:21
  our
• 4:22
  consciousness
• 4:23
  pattern.
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  And
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  the
• 4:25
  consciousness
• 4:25
  pattern
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  is
• 4:26
  what
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  is
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  actually
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  on
• 4:28
  the
• 4:28
  evolutionary
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  path.
• 4:30
  The
• 4:31
  evolutionary
• 4:31
  path
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  is
• 4:32
  synonymous
• 4:33
  with
• 4:33
  the
• 4:33
  Enlightenment
• 4:34
  path.
• 4:34
  There's
• 4:34
  no
• 4:34
  difference
• 4:35
  between
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  two.
• 4:37
  Enlightenment
• 4:37
  refers
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  light.
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  By
• 4:40
  virtue
• 4:40
  of
• 4:41
  its
• 4:41
  name,
• 4:42
  Light
• 4:42
  is
• 4:42
  information,
• 4:45
  and
• 4:45
  light
• 4:46
  informs
• 4:47
  energy
• 4:48
  and
• 4:48
  how
• 4:48
  to
• 4:49
  be.
• 4:49
  We
• 4:50
  are
• 4:50
  energy.
• 4:51
  And
• 4:51
  by
• 4:52
  virtue
• 4:52
  of
• 4:52
  the
• 4:53
  experiences
• 4:53
  that
• 4:54
  we
• 4:54
  have
• 4:54
  during
• 4:55
  an
• 4:55
  incarnation,
• 4:56
  we
• 4:57
  shape
• 4:57
  this
• 4:57
  consciousness
• 4:58
  pattern
• 4:59
  uniquely
• 4:59
  as
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  our
• 5:00
  in.
• 5:00
  Our
• 5:01
  incarnations
• 5:02
  are
• 5:02
  unique
• 5:03
  in
• 5:03
  and
• 5:03
  of
• 5:03
  themselves.
• 5:05
  And
• 5:05
  so
• 5:06
  consequently,
• 5:06
  by
• 5:07
  doing,
• 5:07
  by
• 5:08
  having
• 5:08
  this
• 5:08
  type
• 5:09
  of
• 5:09
  experience,
• 5:09
  we
• 5:10
  fulfill
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  purpose
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  creation
• 5:12
  and
• 5:13
  our
• 5:13
  individual
• 5:14
  purpose
• 5:15
  as.
• 5:16
  As
• 5:17
  a
• 5:17
  participant
• 5:18
  in
• 5:18
  creation.
• 5:19
  Lovely.
• 5:22
  Okay.
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  guess
• 5:27
  I
• 5:27
  would
• 5:27
  want
• 5:27
  to
• 5:27
  know,
• 5:27
  Dean,
• 5:31
  One
• 5:31
  thing
• 5:31
  that
• 5:31
  comes
• 5:31
  to
• 5:32
  mind
• 5:32
  is
• 5:32
  that
• 5:32
  this
• 5:32
  reminds
• 5:33
  me
• 5:33
  a
• 5:33
  little
• 5:33
  bit
• 5:33
  of.
• 5:34
  In
• 5:34
  our
• 5:34
  background,
• 5:34
  we
• 5:35
  learned
• 5:35
  it
• 5:35
  as
• 5:35
  being
• 5:36
  and
• 5:36
  non
• 5:36
  being.
• 5:37
  When
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  talk
• 5:37
  about
• 5:37
  the
• 5:37
  metaphysical
• 5:39
  consciousness
• 5:39
  pattern,
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  think,
• 5:40
  Anthony,
• 5:40
  maybe
• 5:41
  you
• 5:41
  could
• 5:41
  speak
• 5:41
  to
• 5:41
  that
• 5:41
  later.
• 5:41
  It's
• 5:42
  very
• 5:42
  interesting,
• 5:42
  and
• 5:43
  it
• 5:43
  has
• 5:43
  a
• 5:43
  lot
• 5:43
  of
• 5:43
  relatable
• 5:44
  topics
• 5:44
  to
• 5:44
  us
• 5:45
  as
• 5:45
  well.
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  also
• 5:46
  had
• 5:46
  two
• 5:47
  thoughts.
• 5:47
  One,
• 5:48
  first
• 5:49
  of
• 5:49
  all,
• 5:49
  I'd
• 5:49
  like
• 5:49
  to
• 5:49
  hear
• 5:50
  about
• 5:50
  your
• 5:50
  experience
• 5:51
  in
• 5:51
  early
• 5:52
  adulthood
• 5:52
  and
• 5:53
  how
• 5:53
  you
• 5:53
  started
• 5:53
  to
• 5:53
  come
• 5:53
  to
• 5:54
  these
• 5:54
  realizations,
• 5:54
  how
• 5:55
  you
• 5:55
  decided
• 5:55
  this
• 5:55
  was
• 5:55
  part
• 5:55
  of
• 5:56
  your
• 5:56
  path.
• 5:56
  But
• 5:57
  before
• 5:57
  we
• 5:57
  get
• 5:57
  to
• 5:57
  that,
• 5:57
  I
• 5:58
  want
• 5:58
  to
• 5:59
  touch
• 5:59
  on
• 5:59
  something
• 5:59
  that
• 5:59
  I've
• 5:59
  thought
• 6:00
  of
• 6:00
  before,
• 6:00
  where
• 6:03
  sometimes
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  feel
• 6:03
  like
• 6:03
  the
• 6:03
  incarnations,
• 6:04
  since
• 6:05
  we
• 6:05
  can't.
• 6:06
  Nine
• 6:06
  times
• 6:06
  out
• 6:07
  of
• 6:07
  10,
• 6:07
  99
• 6:07
  times
• 6:07
  out
• 6:07
  of
• 6:08
  100,
• 6:08
  we
• 6:08
  can't
• 6:08
  really
• 6:08
  experience
• 6:09
  them.
• 6:10
  Sometimes
• 6:10
  I
• 6:11
  feel
• 6:11
  like
• 6:11
  the
• 6:11
  karma
• 6:12
  is
• 6:12
  almost
• 6:12
  like
• 6:12
  John
• 6:12
  Lennon's
• 6:13
  instant
• 6:13
  karma,
• 6:14
  where
• 6:14
  we
• 6:14
  have
• 6:14
  all
• 6:14
  these
• 6:14
  incarnations
• 6:15
  in
• 6:15
  our
• 6:15
  own
• 6:16
  life,
• 6:16
  or
• 6:17
  in
• 6:17
  a
• 6:17
  Zen
• 6:17
  way,
• 6:18
  it's
• 6:18
  like
• 6:18
  we
• 6:18
  have
• 6:18
  so
• 6:18
  many
• 6:19
  moments.
• 6:19
  We
• 6:20
  have
• 6:20
  maybe
• 6:20
  a
• 6:20
  million
• 6:21
  incarnations
• 6:21
  even
• 6:22
  in
• 6:22
  this
• 6:22
  life.
• 6:23
  So
• 6:24
  one,
• 6:24
  I'd
• 6:24
  like
• 6:24
  to
• 6:25
  get
• 6:25
  your
• 6:26
  take
• 6:26
  on
• 6:26
  that,
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  sense
• 6:27
  that
• 6:27
  maybe
• 6:28
  every
• 6:28
  moment
• 6:28
  is
• 6:28
  almost
• 6:28
  like
• 6:29
  a
• 6:29
  new
• 6:29
  incarnation.
• 6:30
  And
• 6:30
  second,
• 6:30
  I
• 6:31
  would
• 6:31
  love
• 6:31
  to
• 6:31
  hear
• 6:31
  more
• 6:32
  about
• 6:32
  how
• 6:32
  you
• 6:32
  went
• 6:33
  from,
• 6:33
  you
• 6:33
  know,
• 6:34
  adolescence
• 6:34
  into
• 6:34
  adulthood
• 6:35
  and
• 6:35
  where
• 6:35
  this
• 6:36
  kind
• 6:36
  of
• 6:36
  struck
• 6:36
  a
• 6:37
  nerve
• 6:37
  with
• 6:37
  you
• 6:37
  at
• 6:38
  the
• 6:38
  earliest
• 6:38
  stage.
• 6:39
  Okay,
• 6:40
  well,
• 6:42
  answer
• 6:42
  that
• 6:43
  fairly
• 6:44
  quickly.
• 6:45
  My
• 6:48
  teenage
• 6:48
  years
• 6:49
  and
• 6:49
  early
• 6:49
  early
• 6:50
  adolescence
• 6:51
  were
• 6:51
  as
• 6:51
  chaotic
• 6:52
  as
• 6:52
  everyone
• 6:52
  else
• 6:53
  in
• 6:53
  the
• 6:53
  world.
• 6:53
  It's
• 6:54
  a.
• 6:54
  Is
• 6:55
  intended
• 6:55
  to
• 6:55
  be
• 6:55
  chaotic
• 6:56
  because
• 6:57
  we
• 6:57
  are
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  nature
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  human
• 7:01
  experiences.
• 7:02
  When
• 7:03
  we
• 7:03
  are
• 7:03
  born
• 7:03
  into
• 7:04
  an
• 7:04
  incarnation,
• 7:06
  we
• 7:06
  have
• 7:08
  a
• 7:08
  set
• 7:08
  of
• 7:09
  chakras,
• 7:09
  our
• 7:10
  consciousness
• 7:11
  pattern
• 7:11
  has
• 7:11
  a
• 7:11
  set
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  chakras,
• 7:13
  and
• 7:13
  our
• 7:14
  incarnate
• 7:15
  self
• 7:15
  has
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  set
• 7:16
  of
• 7:16
  chakras.
• 7:18
  And
• 7:18
  they
• 7:18
  are,
• 7:18
  for
• 7:19
  all
• 7:19
  intent
• 7:19
  purposes,
• 7:20
  they
• 7:20
  are
• 7:21
  independent
• 7:22
  of
• 7:22
  one
• 7:22
  one
• 7:23
  another
• 7:24
  A
• 7:24
  chakra
• 7:25
  is
• 7:25
  nothing
• 7:25
  more
• 7:26
  than
• 7:26
  an
• 7:27
  assessment
• 7:27
  point
• 7:29
  of
• 7:29
  a
• 7:29
  level
• 7:29
  of
• 7:30
  consciousness.
• 7:32
  So
• 7:32
  when
• 7:32
  we
• 7:33
  are
• 7:33
  born,
• 7:34
  we,
• 7:34
  we
• 7:34
  exist
• 7:35
  within
• 7:35
  a
• 7:35
  range
• 7:36
  of
• 7:36
  consciousness.
• 7:37
  That
• 7:37
  a
• 7:37
  range
• 7:37
  of
• 7:38
  consciousness
• 7:38
  is
• 7:39
  very
• 7:39
  low
• 7:40
  on
• 7:40
  the
• 7:40
  consciousness
• 7:41
  scale.
• 7:42
  We
• 7:42
  are
• 7:42
  third
• 7:43
  from
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  bottom
• 7:45
  in
• 7:45
  that
• 7:45
  consciousness
• 7:46
  scale,
• 7:48
  and
• 7:48
  it's
• 7:48
  called
• 7:48
  third
• 7:49
  density.
• 7:49
  We
• 7:50
  are
• 7:51
  learning
• 7:52
  the
• 7:52
  curriculum
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  third
• 7:53
  density.
• 7:53
  In
• 7:54
  anticipation
• 7:54
  of
• 7:55
  graduating
• 7:55
  to
• 7:56
  the
• 7:56
  next
• 7:56
  range
• 7:57
  of
• 7:57
  consciousness.
• 7:59
  The
• 8:00
  first
• 8:00
  and
• 8:00
  second
• 8:00
  ranges
• 8:01
  of
• 8:01
  consciousness
• 8:03
  are
• 8:03
  nondescript.
• 8:05
  So
• 8:05
  what
• 8:05
  is
• 8:06
  learned
• 8:07
  by
• 8:07
  consciousness
• 8:08
  participating
• 8:09
  in
• 8:09
  those
• 8:09
  ranges
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  consciousness
• 8:11
  essentially
• 8:12
  is
• 8:12
  not
• 8:13
  preserved
• 8:14
  in
• 8:14
  an
• 8:14
  individual
• 8:15
  being's
• 8:16
  evolutionary
• 8:16
  advancement.
• 8:18
  The
• 8:18
  first
• 8:18
  range
• 8:19
  of
• 8:19
  consciousness
• 8:20
  is
• 8:20
  what
• 8:20
  we
• 8:20
  would
• 8:21
  consider
• 8:21
  to
• 8:21
  be
• 8:22
  inorganic
• 8:23
  matter.
• 8:24
  But
• 8:25
  it
• 8:25
  also
• 8:25
  begins
• 8:26
  with
• 8:26
  fire.
• 8:26
  Fire
• 8:27
  is
• 8:27
  the
• 8:27
  lowest
• 8:27
  range
• 8:28
  of
• 8:28
  consciousness.
• 8:30
  The
• 8:30
  second
• 8:31
  range
• 8:31
  of
• 8:31
  consciousness
• 8:32
  is
• 8:32
  what
• 8:32
  we
• 8:32
  would
• 8:33
  consider
• 8:33
  to
• 8:33
  be
• 8:34
  plants
• 8:34
  and
• 8:34
  animals,
• 8:35
  organic
• 8:35
  matter.
• 8:36
  Those
• 8:37
  both
• 8:37
  are
• 8:38
  foundational
• 8:40
  densities.
• 8:40
  Because
• 8:41
  they
• 8:41
  are
• 8:42
  necessary
• 8:43
  to
• 8:43
  exist
• 8:45
  in
• 8:45
  their
• 8:45
  own
• 8:46
  uniqueness.
• 8:47
  So
• 8:47
  that
• 8:48
  we,
• 8:48
  participating
• 8:49
  in
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  third
• 8:50
  range
• 8:50
  of
• 8:51
  consciousness
• 8:51
  can
• 8:52
  have
• 8:52
  a
• 8:52
  platform
• 8:53
  in
• 8:53
  order
• 8:53
  to
• 8:54
  have
• 8:54
  experiences.
• 8:56
  And
• 8:57
  so
• 8:57
  they
• 8:58
  are
• 8:58
  very
• 8:58
  strategic
• 8:59
  to
• 9:00
  our
• 9:00
  experience
• 9:01
  of
• 9:01
  creation.
• 9:02
  But
• 9:02
  they
• 9:03
  themselves
• 9:04
  are
• 9:04
  not
• 9:04
  considered
• 9:05
  to
• 9:05
  be
• 9:07
  as
• 9:08
  potentially
• 9:09
  informational
• 9:11
  for
• 9:11
  creation
• 9:12
  as
• 9:12
  our
• 9:13
  range
• 9:13
  of
• 9:13
  consciousness.
• 9:14
  Our
• 9:15
  range
• 9:15
  of
• 9:15
  consciousness,
• 9:16
  by
• 9:17
  far
• 9:17
  is
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  most
• 9:17
  intense
• 9:18
  range
• 9:18
  of
• 9:19
  consciousness.
• 9:20
  Because
• 9:20
  we
• 9:21
  have
• 9:21
  adequate
• 9:22
  awareness
• 9:22
  in
• 9:22
  order
• 9:23
  to
• 9:23
  assume
• 9:23
  responsibility
• 9:24
  for
• 9:24
  our
• 9:25
  progression
• 9:25
  through
• 9:26
  the
• 9:26
  range
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  consciousness.
• 9:27
  But
• 9:28
  we're
• 9:28
  not
• 9:28
  smart
• 9:28
  enough
• 9:29
  to
• 9:29
  know
• 9:29
  how
• 9:29
  to
• 9:29
  do
• 9:29
  that,
• 9:30
  okay?
• 9:32
  And
• 9:32
  so
• 9:32
  it
• 9:32
  makes
• 9:32
  it
• 9:33
  very
• 9:33
  intense.
• 9:35
  The
• 9:36
  first
• 9:36
  two
• 9:36
  ranges
• 9:37
  of
• 9:37
  consciousness
• 9:39
  are
• 9:39
  considered
• 9:39
  to
• 9:40
  be
• 9:40
  foundational.
• 9:42
  There
• 9:42
  are
• 9:42
  multitude.
• 9:43
  Every
• 9:44
  planet
• 9:46
  out
• 9:46
  there
• 9:46
  is
• 9:47
  at
• 9:47
  least
• 9:48
  a
• 9:48
  first
• 9:48
  density
• 9:49
  consciousness.
• 9:51
  Many
• 9:52
  of
• 9:52
  them
• 9:52
  are
• 9:52
  first
• 9:52
  and
• 9:53
  second
• 9:53
  density
• 9:54
  consciousness.
• 9:55
  And
• 9:56
  time
• 9:56
  is
• 9:56
  required
• 9:57
  for
• 9:57
  them
• 9:57
  to
• 9:58
  create
• 9:58
  their
• 9:58
  uniqueness.
• 10:00
  To
• 10:00
  initiate
• 10:01
  a
• 10:01
  third
• 10:01
  density
• 10:02
  range
• 10:02
  of
• 10:03
  consciousness.
• 10:04
  None
• 10:04
  of
• 10:04
  these
• 10:05
  developments
• 10:06
  are
• 10:06
  arbitrary.
• 10:08
  They
• 10:08
  are
• 10:08
  all
• 10:09
  determined
• 10:10
  to
• 10:10
  be
• 10:11
  ready
• 10:12
  for
• 10:14
  a
• 10:14
  new
• 10:15
  experience.
• 10:16
  Within
• 10:16
  creation.
• 10:19
  There
• 10:19
  are
• 10:22
  32
• 10:22
  archetypes
• 10:23
  of
• 10:23
  the
• 10:23
  Creator.
• 10:25
  Five
• 10:25
  inherent
• 10:26
  characteristics,
• 10:28
  and
• 10:29
  26
• 10:30
  other
• 10:32
  distortions.
• 10:33
  Of
• 10:33
  those
• 10:34
  five
• 10:34
  inherent
• 10:34
  characteristics,
• 10:35
  of
• 10:36
  which
• 10:36
  free
• 10:36
  will
• 10:37
  is
• 10:37
  one.
• 10:38
  Free
• 10:39
  will
• 10:39
  is
• 10:39
  the
• 10:39
  originating
• 10:40
  distortion
• 10:41
  that
• 10:41
  allows
• 10:42
  creation
• 10:42
  to
• 10:43
  begin
• 10:44
  and
• 10:44
  to
• 10:44
  develop
• 10:45
  as
• 10:45
  it
• 10:45
  has
• 10:46
  begun.
• 10:47
  As
• 10:47
  philosophers,
• 10:48
  I'm
• 10:48
  sure
• 10:48
  you're
• 10:49
  familiar
• 10:49
  with
• 10:49
  the
• 10:50
  multitude
• 10:50
  of
• 10:51
  debates
• 10:51
  as
• 10:51
  to
• 10:52
  whether
• 10:52
  we
• 10:52
  have
• 10:52
  free
• 10:53
  will
• 10:53
  or
• 10:53
  don't
• 10:53
  have
• 10:53
  free
• 10:54
  will,
• 10:54
  which
• 10:54
  has
• 10:54
  been
• 10:55
  reoccurring
• 10:56
  over
• 10:57
  the
• 10:57
  history
• 10:57
  of
• 10:57
  mankind.
• 10:59
  The
• 10:59
  problem
• 10:59
  with
• 10:59
  that
• 11:00
  argument
• 11:00
  is
• 11:00
  it
• 11:01
  misunderstands
• 11:02
  free
• 11:03
  will.
• 11:04
  The
• 11:04
  decision
• 11:04
  to
• 11:05
  be
• 11:05
  able
• 11:05
  to
• 11:05
  choose
• 11:06
  right,
• 11:06
  to
• 11:06
  turn
• 11:06
  right,
• 11:07
  or
• 11:07
  to
• 11:07
  turn
• 11:07
  left
• 11:08
  is
• 11:08
  a
• 11:08
  product
• 11:08
  of
• 11:09
  free
• 11:09
  will.
• 11:10
  Free
• 11:10
  will
• 11:10
  is
• 11:11
  the
• 11:11
  perception
• 11:11
  of
• 11:12
  separation.
• 11:14
  And
• 11:14
  so,
• 11:14
  because
• 11:15
  we
• 11:15
  have
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  perception
• 11:16
  of
• 11:16
  separation
• 11:17
  in
• 11:17
  our
• 11:17
  range
• 11:18
  of
• 11:18
  consciousness,
• 11:19
  autonomy
• 11:19
  of
• 11:20
  a
• 11:20
  being,
• 11:21
  we
• 11:21
  have
• 11:21
  a
• 11:21
  multitude
• 11:22
  of
• 11:22
  choices,
• 11:23
  even
• 11:24
  in
• 11:24
  interacting
• 11:25
  with
• 11:25
  one
• 11:25
  another.
• 11:26
  But
• 11:26
  it
• 11:26
  is
• 11:26
  through
• 11:26
  Those
• 11:27
  interactions
• 11:28
  that
• 11:28
  we
• 11:28
  are
• 11:28
  provided
• 11:29
  with
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  opportunity
• 11:30
  to
• 11:30
  explore
• 11:31
  ourselves.
• 11:32
  And
• 11:32
  so
• 11:33
  free
• 11:33
  will
• 11:33
  is
• 11:34
  the
• 11:34
  first
• 11:34
  originating
• 11:35
  distortion
• 11:36
  of
• 11:38
  creation
• 11:39
  that
• 11:39
  allows
• 11:39
  creation
• 11:40
  to
• 11:40
  exist.
• 11:42
  And
• 11:43
  it
• 11:43
  is
• 11:44
  the
• 11:44
  tool
• 11:44
  that
• 11:45
  creates
• 11:45
  consciousness.
• 11:50
  Now,
• 11:50
  as
• 11:50
  far
• 11:50
  as
• 11:50
  my
• 11:51
  going
• 11:51
  back
• 11:52
  to
• 11:52
  your
• 11:52
  other
• 11:52
  question.
• 11:54
  After
• 11:55
  my
• 11:55
  teenage
• 11:56
  chaotic
• 11:57
  years
• 11:58
  and
• 11:58
  going
• 11:58
  to
• 11:58
  university
• 12:00
  and
• 12:00
  beginning
• 12:01
  to
• 12:02
  actually
• 12:02
  pay
• 12:03
  attention
• 12:03
  to
• 12:03
  my
• 12:04
  studies
• 12:04
  for
• 12:04
  a
• 12:05
  period
• 12:05
  of
• 12:05
  time.
• 12:06
  Sure.
• 12:07
  And
• 12:08
  found
• 12:09
  philosophy.
• 12:09
  And
• 12:10
  began
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  study
• 12:10
  philosophy
• 12:11
  and
• 12:12
  was
• 12:14
  greatly
• 12:16
  intrigued
• 12:17
  primarily
• 12:18
  of
• 12:19
  Kant's
• 12:19
  conclusions
• 12:21
  of
• 12:21
  our
• 12:21
  inability
• 12:23
  to
• 12:24
  actually
• 12:24
  experience
• 12:25
  the
• 12:25
  world.
• 12:26
  And
• 12:27
  that
• 12:29
  is
• 12:29
  more
• 12:30
  foundational
• 12:30
  than
• 12:31
  I
• 12:31
  think
• 12:31
  most
• 12:31
  of
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  philosophy,
• 12:34
  philosophy
• 12:35
  world
• 12:36
  realizes
• 12:37
  in
• 12:37
  that
• 12:39
  it
• 12:39
  discounts
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  authenticity
• 12:42
  of
• 12:42
  the
• 12:42
  physical
• 12:43
  world
• 12:43
  experience
• 12:44
  entirely.
• 12:46
  And.
• 12:48
  And
• 12:49
  which
• 12:49
  is
• 12:50
  reiterated
• 12:51
  by
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  Buddha's
• 12:51
  teachings
• 12:52
  as
• 12:52
  well.
• 12:52
  Right,
• 12:53
  right.
• 12:55
  So
• 12:56
  that
• 12:56
  with
• 12:57
  that
• 12:57
  understanding,
• 12:58
  it
• 12:59
  is.
• 12:59
  It
• 13:00
  was
• 13:00
  a
• 13:00
  breakpoint
• 13:01
  in
• 13:01
  our.
• 13:02
  As
• 13:03
  our.
• 13:03
  As
• 13:03
  human,
• 13:04
  as
• 13:04
  humans
• 13:06
  understanding
• 13:06
  of
• 13:07
  who
• 13:07
  we
• 13:07
  were
• 13:08
  and
• 13:09
  potentially
• 13:09
  gave
• 13:10
  us
• 13:10
  that
• 13:10
  opportunity
• 13:11
  to
• 13:12
  develop
• 13:12
  our
• 13:13
  perception
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  self
• 13:14
  more
• 13:14
  accurately.
• 13:16
  Well,
• 13:17
  I
• 13:17
  am
• 13:18
  very
• 13:19
  interested
• 13:19
  in
• 13:20
  how
• 13:20
  you've
• 13:20
  come
• 13:21
  to
• 13:21
  these
• 13:21
  ideas.
• 13:22
  We
• 13:22
  have
• 13:22
  to
• 13:22
  take
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  short
• 13:23
  break.
• 13:23
  We
• 13:24
  are
• 13:24
  here
• 13:25
  with
• 13:25
  our
• 13:25
  guest,
• 13:26
  Dean
• 13:26
  Graves.
• 13:27
  How
• 13:28
  can
• 13:28
  people
• 13:28
  contact
• 13:28
  you?
• 13:29
  I
• 13:29
  have
• 13:30
  a
• 13:30
  website
• 13:30
  with
• 13:30
  all
• 13:30
  of
• 13:30
  my
• 13:31
  contact
• 13:31
  and
• 13:32
  resource
• 13:32
  information.
• 13:33
  It's
• 13:33
  the
• 13:34
  initial
• 13:34
  D,
• 13:34
  Dean
• 13:35
  Graves.
• 13:36
  All
• 13:36
  one
• 13:36
  word.
• 13:40
  And
• 13:40
  they
• 13:40
  can
• 13:40
  contact
• 13:41
  me.
• 13:41
  They
• 13:41
  have
• 13:42
  contact.
• 13:43
  Are
• 13:43
  they.
• 13:43
  All
• 13:44
  my
• 13:44
  books
• 13:44
  are
• 13:44
  linked
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  that.
• 13:45
  The
• 13:46
  podcasts
• 13:46
  are
• 13:46
  linked
• 13:47
  to
• 13:47
  that.
• 13:47
  And
• 13:48
  I
• 13:48
  also
• 13:48
  do
• 13:49
  mental
• 13:50
  health
• 13:50
  work
• 13:50
  with
• 13:50
  people
• 13:51
  that
• 13:52
  I.
• 13:52
  I
• 13:53
  focus
• 13:53
  primarily
• 13:53
  in
• 13:54
  people
• 13:54
  that
• 13:54
  have
• 13:54
  experienced
• 13:55
  traumas
• 13:56
  and
• 13:57
  have
• 13:57
  some
• 13:57
  unique
• 13:58
  techniques
• 13:58
  for
• 13:59
  trauma.
• 13:59
  Rapid
• 14:00
  trauma
• 14:00
  release.
• 14:01
  Sure.
• 14:02
  So
• 14:02
  we'll
• 14:03
  be
• 14:03
  back
• 14:04
  in
• 14:04
  just
• 14:04
  a
• 14:04
  moment,
• 14:04
  so
• 14:05
  stay
• 14:05
  tuned.
• 14:20
  I'm
• 14:20
  Anthony
• 14:21
  Wright
• 14:21
  and
• 14:21
  I
• 14:22
  am
• 14:22
  your
• 14:22
  co
• 14:23
  host
• 14:23
  today
• 14:23
  on
• 14:24
  the
• 14:24
  Living
• 14:24
  Conversation
• 14:24
  with
• 14:25
  Adam
• 14:26
  Dietz.
• 14:26
  And
• 14:28
  we
• 14:28
  are
• 14:29
  here
• 14:29
  with
• 14:29
  our
• 14:29
  guest,
• 14:30
  Dean
• 14:31
  Graves.
• 14:32
  So
• 14:33
  before
• 14:33
  the
• 14:33
  break,
• 14:34
  you
• 14:34
  were
• 14:34
  talking
• 14:35
  about
• 14:35
  a
• 14:36
  model
• 14:36
  about
• 14:36
  There's
• 14:37
  32
• 14:37
  archetypes
• 14:38
  of
• 14:38
  the
• 14:38
  divine
• 14:40
  and
• 14:42
  five,
• 14:45
  forgive
• 14:45
  me,
• 14:47
  five
• 14:47
  inherent
• 14:48
  characteristics.
• 14:49
  That's
• 14:49
  right.
• 14:49
  Okay.
• 14:50
  How
• 14:50
  did
• 14:50
  you
• 14:51
  come
• 14:51
  to
• 14:51
  this
• 14:52
  understanding
• 14:52
  of
• 14:53
  what.
• 14:53
  Where
• 14:53
  does
• 14:53
  this
• 14:53
  model
• 14:54
  come
• 14:54
  from?
• 14:55
  It
• 14:55
  comes
• 14:57
  from
• 14:57
  my
• 14:58
  teacher,
• 14:59
  for
• 14:59
  lack
• 15:00
  of
• 15:00
  better
• 15:00
  description.
• 15:01
  Okay.
• 15:02
  My
• 15:02
  teacher
• 15:02
  is.
• 15:03
  Is
• 15:03
  not
• 15:03
  incarnate.
• 15:04
  They
• 15:04
  were,
• 15:05
  but
• 15:05
  they
• 15:05
  are
• 15:06
  not
• 15:06
  incarnate.
• 15:07
  And
• 15:07
  they
• 15:07
  are
• 15:08
  one
• 15:08
  of
• 15:08
  the.
• 15:09
  The
• 15:09
  creators
• 15:10
  of
• 15:10
  our
• 15:11
  experience,
• 15:12
  human
• 15:13
  experience.
• 15:14
  And
• 15:14
  all
• 15:15
  of
• 15:15
  creation
• 15:15
  is
• 15:15
  structured
• 15:16
  according
• 15:17
  to
• 15:17
  these
• 15:18
  five
• 15:18
  inherent
• 15:19
  characteristic
• 15:19
  characteristics.
• 15:22
  Okay.
• 15:25
  Dean,
• 15:26
  could
• 15:26
  you.
• 15:26
  Could
• 15:26
  you
• 15:26
  list
• 15:26
  the
• 15:27
  five
• 15:27
  briefly
• 15:27
  for
• 15:28
  our
• 15:28
  listeners?
• 15:28
  Yes.
• 15:29
  Awareness,
• 15:30
  Love,
• 15:31
  wisdom,
• 15:32
  unity
• 15:33
  and
• 15:33
  stillness.
• 15:35
  And
• 15:35
  they
• 15:35
  are
• 15:36
  hierarchical
• 15:37
  from
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  standpoint
• 15:39
  of
• 15:39
  you
• 15:39
  have
• 15:40
  to
• 15:40
  become
• 15:40
  aware
• 15:40
  before
• 15:41
  you
• 15:41
  can
• 15:42
  explore
• 15:43
  love.
• 15:43
  You
• 15:43
  have
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  become.
• 15:44
  Become
• 15:45
  love
• 15:45
  in
• 15:45
  order
• 15:45
  to
• 15:46
  explore
• 15:46
  wisdom
• 15:46
  and
• 15:47
  so
• 15:47
  forth.
• 15:48
  Our
• 15:49
  range
• 15:49
  of
• 15:49
  consciousness.
• 15:50
  The
• 15:50
  curriculum
• 15:51
  for
• 15:51
  our
• 15:51
  range
• 15:52
  of
• 15:52
  consciousness
• 15:52
  is
• 15:53
  elementary,
• 15:54
  and
• 15:54
  we
• 15:54
  are
• 15:55
  tasked
• 15:55
  with
• 15:56
  becoming
• 15:56
  Awareness
• 15:57
  in
• 15:57
  order
• 15:57
  to
• 15:58
  prepare
• 15:58
  for
• 15:58
  graduation
• 15:59
  to
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  next
• 15:59
  range
• 16:00
  of
• 16:00
  consciousness.
• 16:02
  So
• 16:02
  I'm
• 16:03
  real
• 16:03
  interested
• 16:04
  about
• 16:04
  how
• 16:05
  you
• 16:06
  came
• 16:06
  to
• 16:07
  contact
• 16:07
  your
• 16:07
  teacher.
• 16:09
  Well,
• 16:10
  they
• 16:11
  contacted
• 16:11
  me,
• 16:12
  okay.
• 16:14
  And
• 16:14
  it
• 16:15
  was
• 16:15
  a
• 16:15
  pre
• 16:15
  incarnate
• 16:18
  plan.
• 16:20
  And
• 16:21
  by
• 16:21
  virtue
• 16:21
  of
• 16:22
  that,
• 16:22
  I'm.
• 16:22
  I'm
• 16:23
  simply
• 16:23
  a
• 16:23
  messenger,
• 16:24
  right?
• 16:25
  I
• 16:25
  have
• 16:25
  a
• 16:25
  long.
• 16:26
  I'm
• 16:27
  part
• 16:27
  of
• 16:27
  that.
• 16:29
  In
• 16:30
  our
• 16:30
  range
• 16:30
  of
• 16:31
  consciousness,
• 16:31
  it's
• 16:32
  difficult
• 16:32
  for
• 16:32
  us
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  understand
• 16:34
  that
• 16:34
  most
• 16:35
  of
• 16:35
  creation
• 16:36
  is
• 16:36
  not.
• 16:37
  Does
• 16:37
  not
• 16:37
  perceive
• 16:38
  itself
• 16:38
  as
• 16:39
  an.
• 16:39
  As
• 16:39
  autonomous
• 16:40
  beings.
• 16:42
  As
• 16:42
  we
• 16:42
  evolve,
• 16:43
  what
• 16:43
  we're
• 16:43
  actually
• 16:44
  doing
• 16:44
  is
• 16:45
  surrendering
• 16:46
  this
• 16:46
  concept
• 16:47
  of
• 16:48
  free
• 16:48
  will,
• 16:49
  perception
• 16:50
  of
• 16:50
  separation.
• 16:51
  So
• 16:52
  we
• 16:52
  are
• 16:52
  beginning
• 16:53
  to
• 16:53
  see
• 16:54
  other.
• 16:54
  What
• 16:55
  we
• 16:55
  now
• 16:55
  perceive
• 16:56
  to
• 16:56
  be
• 16:56
  other
• 16:56
  beings,
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  be
• 16:57
  other
• 16:58
  autonomous
• 16:59
  beings
• 17:00
  as
• 17:00
  extensions
• 17:01
  of
• 17:01
  ourself.
• 17:02
  And
• 17:02
  as
• 17:02
  we
• 17:03
  do
• 17:03
  that
• 17:03
  and
• 17:03
  surrender
• 17:04
  that
• 17:04
  perception
• 17:04
  of
• 17:05
  separation,
• 17:05
  then
• 17:06
  we
• 17:06
  actually
• 17:09
  migrate
• 17:09
  more
• 17:10
  towards
• 17:10
  the
• 17:11
  perception
• 17:11
  of
• 17:11
  unity.
• 17:12
  And
• 17:13
  we
• 17:13
  actually
• 17:13
  surrender
• 17:14
  this
• 17:14
  perception
• 17:15
  of
• 17:15
  autonomy
• 17:16
  and
• 17:16
  become
• 17:17
  a
• 17:17
  larger
• 17:18
  unit.
• 17:19
  What
• 17:20
  we
• 17:20
  would
• 17:21
  perceive
• 17:21
  to
• 17:21
  be
• 17:21
  a
• 17:22
  unit
• 17:23
  called
• 17:23
  a
• 17:23
  social
• 17:23
  memory
• 17:24
  complex.
• 17:25
  Social
• 17:25
  memory
• 17:26
  complex
• 17:26
  is
• 17:27
  simply
• 17:27
  an
• 17:27
  accumulation
• 17:28
  of
• 17:28
  what
• 17:29
  we
• 17:29
  perceive
• 17:29
  to
• 17:29
  be
• 17:30
  autonomous
• 17:30
  beings
• 17:31
  having
• 17:31
  merged
• 17:32
  into
• 17:32
  one
• 17:32
  consciousness.
• 17:35
  Wow,
• 17:35
  that's
• 17:36
  very
• 17:36
  interesting
• 17:36
  to
• 17:36
  me,
• 17:36
  Dean.
• 17:37
  And
• 17:37
  while
• 17:37
  you're
• 17:38
  speaking
• 17:38
  on
• 17:38
  that,
• 17:38
  it
• 17:38
  reminds
• 17:39
  me
• 17:39
  of
• 17:39
  a
• 17:39
  few
• 17:39
  things
• 17:40
  that
• 17:40
  my
• 17:40
  background
• 17:41
  is
• 17:41
  most
• 17:42
  deeply
• 17:42
  in
• 17:43
  Confucianism.
• 17:44
  And
• 17:44
  in
• 17:44
  Confucianism
• 17:46
  we
• 17:46
  are
• 17:46
  all
• 17:47
  made
• 17:47
  of
• 17:47
  heaven.
• 17:48
  And
• 17:48
  this
• 17:49
  relates
• 17:49
  to.
• 17:50
  I
• 17:50
  often
• 17:50
  relate
• 17:51
  it
• 17:51
  back
• 17:51
  to
• 17:51
  Carl
• 17:52
  Sagan,
• 17:52
  Neil
• 17:52
  Tyson,
• 17:53
  De
• 17:53
  Grass
• 17:53
  scientific
• 17:54
  theory
• 17:54
  that
• 17:54
  we're
• 17:54
  all
• 17:54
  from
• 17:55
  the
• 17:55
  big
• 17:55
  Bang,
• 17:55
  we're
• 17:55
  all
• 17:56
  starvest
• 17:57
  and
• 17:58
  the
• 17:58
  sense
• 17:58
  of
• 17:58
  oneness.
• 18:00
  When
• 18:00
  you,
• 18:01
  Confucius
• 18:01
  and
• 18:02
  the
• 18:02
  sage
• 18:02
  kings
• 18:02
  before
• 18:02
  him
• 18:04
  said
• 18:04
  that
• 18:04
  when
• 18:04
  you
• 18:04
  investigate
• 18:05
  things,
• 18:05
  you.
• 18:05
  You
• 18:06
  basically
• 18:06
  you
• 18:06
  can
• 18:07
  extend
• 18:07
  your
• 18:07
  knowledge
• 18:07
  into
• 18:08
  all
• 18:08
  things.
• 18:08
  You
• 18:08
  can
• 18:08
  understand
• 18:09
  that
• 18:09
  we
• 18:09
  are
• 18:09
  all
• 18:09
  one
• 18:10
  in
• 18:10
  heaven,
• 18:11
  so
• 18:11
  to
• 18:11
  speak.
• 18:13
  Then
• 18:13
  Confucius
• 18:14
  takes
• 18:14
  it
• 18:14
  a
• 18:14
  step
• 18:14
  further
• 18:14
  and
• 18:15
  talks
• 18:15
  about
• 18:15
  how
• 18:15
  we
• 18:16
  are
• 18:16
  actually
• 18:18
  come
• 18:18
  into
• 18:18
  this
• 18:19
  body,
• 18:19
  come
• 18:19
  into
• 18:20
  this
• 18:20
  being,
• 18:20
  come
• 18:21
  into
• 18:21
  this
• 18:21
  humanity
• 18:23
  as
• 18:23
  our
• 18:23
  destiny.
• 18:24
  And
• 18:24
  our
• 18:24
  destiny
• 18:25
  is
• 18:25
  we
• 18:25
  have
• 18:25
  this
• 18:27
  destiny
• 18:27
  in
• 18:27
  our
• 18:27
  own
• 18:28
  unique
• 18:28
  set
• 18:28
  of
• 18:29
  relationships.
• 18:29
  That
• 18:30
  we
• 18:30
  are
• 18:30
  actually
• 18:31
  meant
• 18:31
  to
• 18:31
  be
• 18:31
  bringing
• 18:32
  heaven
• 18:32
  and
• 18:32
  harmony
• 18:33
  into
• 18:33
  our
• 18:33
  unique
• 18:34
  set
• 18:34
  of
• 18:34
  relationships.
• 18:35
  I
• 18:35
  wonder,
• 18:36
  you
• 18:36
  also
• 18:36
  mentioned
• 18:37
  something
• 18:37
  about
• 18:37
  social
• 18:38
  memory.
• 18:39
  Do
• 18:39
  you
• 18:39
  also
• 18:39
  see
• 18:40
  a
• 18:40
  relation
• 18:40
  to
• 18:41
  the
• 18:41
  way
• 18:41
  I'm
• 18:41
  seeing
• 18:42
  it
• 18:42
  in
• 18:42
  these
• 18:42
  concepts?
• 18:45
  Well,
• 18:45
  in
• 18:46
  our
• 18:46
  range
• 18:46
  of
• 18:46
  consciousness
• 18:47
  we
• 18:47
  do
• 18:47
  not
• 18:47
  have
• 18:48
  the
• 18:48
  capacity
• 18:49
  yet
• 18:50
  in
• 18:50
  order
• 18:50
  to
• 18:51
  form
• 18:51
  a
• 18:51
  social
• 18:51
  memory
• 18:52
  complex.
• 18:53
  But
• 18:53
  certainly
• 18:54
  we
• 18:54
  can
• 18:54
  learn
• 18:55
  to
• 18:55
  live
• 18:55
  together
• 18:55
  more
• 18:56
  harmoniously
• 18:57
  and
• 18:59
  the
• 19:00
  nature
• 19:00
  of
• 19:00
  our
• 19:01
  design.
• 19:01
  And
• 19:02
  we.
• 19:02
  Well,
• 19:02
  let
• 19:03
  me
• 19:03
  preface
• 19:04
  that
• 19:04
  a
• 19:04
  little
• 19:05
  bit.
• 19:06
  Our
• 19:06
  experience
• 19:07
  is
• 19:08
  by
• 19:09
  design.
• 19:10
  We
• 19:10
  function
• 19:11
  according
• 19:12
  to
• 19:12
  an
• 19:12
  archetypical
• 19:13
  mind.
• 19:14
  An
• 19:14
  archetypical
• 19:15
  mind
• 19:15
  very
• 19:15
  simply
• 19:16
  is
• 19:16
  just
• 19:16
  a
• 19:16
  blueprint
• 19:17
  for
• 19:17
  how
• 19:17
  we
• 19:18
  process
• 19:18
  thought
• 19:21
  and
• 19:21
  with
• 19:21
  the
• 19:22
  understanding
• 19:22
  of
• 19:23
  what
• 19:23
  a
• 19:23
  mind
• 19:23
  is.
• 19:25
  A
• 19:25
  mind
• 19:25
  is
• 19:25
  nothing
• 19:26
  more
• 19:26
  than
• 19:26
  a
• 19:26
  bundle
• 19:27
  of
• 19:27
  thoughts,
• 19:27
  of
• 19:28
  beliefs.
• 19:29
  That's
• 19:29
  all
• 19:30
  that
• 19:30
  a
• 19:30
  mind
• 19:30
  is.
• 19:32
  It
• 19:32
  has
• 19:32
  no
• 19:32
  physical
• 19:33
  presence.
• 19:33
  It
• 19:34
  has
• 19:34
  no
• 19:35
  significant
• 19:36
  longevity
• 19:37
  other
• 19:37
  than
• 19:37
  our
• 19:38
  willingness
• 19:39
  to
• 19:39
  preserve.
• 19:41
  Has
• 19:42
  no
• 19:42
  physical
• 19:43
  body,
• 19:43
  in
• 19:43
  other
• 19:43
  words,
• 19:43
  of
• 19:44
  any
• 19:45
  sort.
• 19:47
  Our
• 19:48
  mind
• 19:48
  becomes
• 19:49
  the
• 19:49
  lens
• 19:50
  that
• 19:50
  we
• 19:50
  use
• 19:50
  to
• 19:51
  interpret
• 19:51
  our
• 19:51
  experiences
• 19:52
  and
• 19:52
  thereby
• 19:53
  create
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  uniqueness
• 19:54
  of
• 19:54
  our
• 19:55
  experience.
• 19:56
  The
• 19:57
  brain
• 19:58
  and
• 19:58
  our
• 19:58
  body
• 19:59
  is
• 19:59
  a
• 19:59
  man
• 19:59
  of
• 20:00
  the
• 20:00
  condition
• 20:00
  of
• 20:00
  the
• 20:01
  brain.
• 20:01
  And
• 20:01
  body
• 20:02
  is
• 20:02
  a
• 20:02
  manifestation
• 20:03
  of
• 20:03
  the
• 20:04
  mind.
• 20:05
  So
• 20:06
  that
• 20:08
  illness
• 20:09
  is
• 20:09
  not
• 20:11
  predetermined.
• 20:12
  Certainly
• 20:14
  a
• 20:14
  lot
• 20:14
  of
• 20:14
  bodies
• 20:15
  have
• 20:15
  a
• 20:15
  predisposition
• 20:16
  towards
• 20:17
  an
• 20:17
  illness,
• 20:18
  but
• 20:18
  that
• 20:18
  doesn't
• 20:19
  necessarily
• 20:19
  mean
• 20:19
  it
• 20:20
  has
• 20:20
  to
• 20:20
  be
• 20:20
  triggered.
• 20:21
  It's
• 20:22
  triggered
• 20:22
  by
• 20:22
  the
• 20:23
  mind
• 20:23
  through
• 20:23
  the
• 20:24
  nature
• 20:24
  of
• 20:24
  our
• 20:24
  experience
• 20:25
  interpretation
• 20:26
  during
• 20:26
  the
• 20:26
  course
• 20:27
  of
• 20:27
  the
• 20:29
  the
• 20:29
  life
• 20:30
  that
• 20:30
  we're
• 20:30
  living.
• 20:32
  Part
• 20:33
  of
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  design
• 20:34
  for
• 20:35
  the
• 20:36
  archetypical
• 20:37
  mind
• 20:37
  is
• 20:37
  that
• 20:37
  we
• 20:38
  will
• 20:38
  begin
• 20:39
  each
• 20:39
  incarnation
• 20:40
  in
• 20:41
  and
• 20:41
  this
• 20:41
  is
• 20:41
  also
• 20:41
  true
• 20:42
  of
• 20:42
  our
• 20:43
  metaphysical
• 20:44
  self.
• 20:45
  Our
• 20:45
  metaphysical
• 20:46
  self
• 20:47
  begins
• 20:47
  its
• 20:48
  participation
• 20:48
  in
• 20:49
  creation
• 20:49
  in
• 20:50
  a
• 20:50
  condition
• 20:50
  called
• 20:51
  primordial
• 20:52
  darkness,
• 20:52
  which
• 20:52
  very
• 20:53
  simply
• 20:53
  means
• 20:53
  we
• 20:54
  know
• 20:54
  nothing.
• 20:54
  We're
• 20:55
  a
• 20:55
  clean
• 20:55
  slate.
• 20:56
  We
• 20:56
  can
• 20:56
  paint
• 20:56
  anything
• 20:57
  on
• 20:57
  that
• 20:57
  slate,
• 20:58
  on
• 20:58
  that
• 20:58
  canvas
• 20:59
  that
• 20:59
  we
• 20:59
  want
• 20:59
  to.
• 21:00
  We
• 21:01
  essentially
• 21:01
  begin
• 21:02
  each
• 21:02
  new
• 21:03
  incarnation
• 21:04
  on
• 21:05
  a
• 21:05
  relatively
• 21:06
  clean
• 21:06
  canvas.
• 21:08
  But
• 21:08
  we
• 21:08
  begin
• 21:08
  in
• 21:09
  the
• 21:09
  condition
• 21:09
  that
• 21:10
  our
• 21:10
  metaphysical
• 21:11
  self
• 21:11
  is
• 21:11
  at
• 21:12
  the
• 21:12
  time
• 21:12
  of
• 21:12
  the
• 21:12
  incarnation.
• 21:14
  And
• 21:14
  so
• 21:14
  if
• 21:15
  you've
• 21:15
  any,
• 21:16
  anybody
• 21:16
  that's
• 21:17
  had
• 21:17
  more
• 21:17
  than
• 21:17
  one
• 21:17
  child
• 21:18
  knows
• 21:19
  that
• 21:19
  there's
• 21:20
  absolutely
• 21:21
  no
• 21:22
  way
• 21:22
  that
• 21:22
  these
• 21:22
  children
• 21:23
  could
• 21:23
  have
• 21:23
  been
• 21:23
  reared
• 21:24
  in
• 21:24
  the
• 21:24
  same
• 21:24
  environment
• 21:25
  and
• 21:25
  behave
• 21:26
  so
• 21:26
  differently.
• 21:28
  And
• 21:28
  the
• 21:29
  reason
• 21:29
  for
• 21:29
  that
• 21:29
  is
• 21:30
  each
• 21:30
  one
• 21:31
  is
• 21:31
  a
• 21:32
  separate
• 21:32
  metaphysical
• 21:33
  soul
• 21:33
  that
• 21:34
  has
• 21:34
  incarnated
• 21:35
  according
• 21:35
  to
• 21:36
  how
• 21:36
  it's
• 21:37
  metaphysical
• 21:38
  self
• 21:38
  is
• 21:38
  at
• 21:39
  the
• 21:39
  time
• 21:39
  of
• 21:39
  that
• 21:39
  incarnation.
• 21:41
  And
• 21:41
  so
• 21:41
  they
• 21:42
  have
• 21:42
  already
• 21:42
  developed
• 21:43
  a
• 21:43
  personality
• 21:44
  in
• 21:44
  their
• 21:44
  metaphysical
• 21:45
  self.
• 21:45
  And
• 21:46
  some
• 21:46
  of
• 21:46
  them
• 21:46
  are
• 21:46
  more
• 21:47
  advanced
• 21:47
  than
• 21:47
  others,
• 21:48
  and
• 21:48
  others
• 21:48
  are
• 21:48
  less
• 21:49
  advanced
• 21:49
  than
• 21:49
  others.
• 21:50
  But
• 21:50
  we
• 21:51
  choose
• 21:51
  our
• 21:51
  incarnations
• 21:52
  for
• 21:53
  the
• 21:53
  sole
• 21:53
  purpose
• 21:54
  of
• 21:54
  that
• 21:55
  incarnation
• 21:56
  has
• 21:56
  the
• 21:57
  probability
• 21:58
  of
• 21:58
  providing
• 21:59
  us
• 21:59
  with
• 21:59
  the
• 21:59
  type
• 21:59
  of
• 22:00
  experiences
• 22:01
  that
• 22:01
  we
• 22:01
  need
• 22:01
  in
• 22:02
  order
• 22:02
  to
• 22:02
  evolve.
• 22:04
  So
• 22:04
  some
• 22:04
  of
• 22:04
  those
• 22:05
  are
• 22:05
  very
• 22:05
  difficult
• 22:06
  by
• 22:06
  choice,
• 22:07
  others
• 22:07
  are
• 22:08
  very
• 22:09
  non
• 22:10
  challenging
• 22:11
  by
• 22:12
  choice.
• 22:12
  But
• 22:13
  during
• 22:13
  the
• 22:13
  course
• 22:14
  of
• 22:14
  that
• 22:14
  lifetime,
• 22:15
  there's
• 22:15
  a
• 22:16
  high
• 22:16
  probability
• 22:17
  that
• 22:17
  that
• 22:18
  being
• 22:19
  is
• 22:19
  going
• 22:19
  to
• 22:19
  encounter
• 22:20
  the
• 22:20
  types
• 22:20
  of
• 22:20
  experiences
• 22:21
  that
• 22:21
  they
• 22:22
  need
• 22:22
  in
• 22:22
  order
• 22:22
  to
• 22:23
  evolve
• 22:23
  their
• 22:23
  metaphysical
• 22:24
  self.
• 22:25
  Hero's
• 22:25
  journey
• 22:26
  yeah,
• 22:27
  one
• 22:27
  of
• 22:27
  the
• 22:28
  conditions,
• 22:28
  the
• 22:28
  elementary
• 22:29
  conditions,
• 22:30
  and
• 22:30
  when
• 22:31
  we
• 22:31
  were
• 22:31
  talking
• 22:32
  in
• 22:32
  our
• 22:32
  previous
• 22:32
  session,
• 22:33
  we
• 22:33
  were
• 22:33
  talking
• 22:33
  about
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  teenage
• 22:34
  years
• 22:34
  and
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  difficulty
• 22:35
  of
• 22:36
  teenage
• 22:36
  years.
• 22:37
  This
• 22:38
  is
• 22:39
  the
• 22:39
  range
• 22:40
  of
• 22:40
  consciousness
• 22:40
  that
• 22:41
  we
• 22:41
  are
• 22:41
  tasked
• 22:41
  with
• 22:41
  becoming.
• 22:42
  Awareness.
• 22:43
  We
• 22:44
  begin
• 22:44
  each
• 22:45
  incarnation
• 22:46
  as
• 22:46
  an
• 22:46
  infant
• 22:47
  and
• 22:47
  our
• 22:48
  metaphysical
• 22:50
  chakra,
• 22:51
  just
• 22:51
  the
• 22:52
  first
• 22:52
  one,
• 22:52
  is
• 22:52
  the
• 22:53
  only
• 22:53
  one
• 22:54
  that
• 22:54
  is
• 22:54
  open
• 22:55
  during
• 22:55
  our
• 22:56
  infant
• 22:56
  years
• 22:57
  when,
• 22:57
  when
• 22:57
  we
• 22:57
  enter
• 22:58
  the
• 22:58
  Terrible
• 22:59
  Twos.
• 23:00
  That
• 23:00
  means
• 23:00
  that
• 23:01
  our
• 23:01
  second
• 23:01
  metaphysical
• 23:02
  chakra
• 23:03
  has
• 23:03
  been
• 23:03
  activated.
• 23:05
  When
• 23:05
  we
• 23:05
  go
• 23:05
  through
• 23:06
  puberty,
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  third
• 23:08
  metaphysical
• 23:08
  self.
• 23:09
  Metaphysical
• 23:10
  chakra,
• 23:10
  has
• 23:11
  been
• 23:11
  activated.
• 23:12
  Each
• 23:13
  chakra
• 23:13
  activation
• 23:15
  increases
• 23:16
  our
• 23:16
  capacity
• 23:17
  for
• 23:17
  awareness.
• 23:18
  So
• 23:19
  what
• 23:19
  the
• 23:20
  Terrible
• 23:20
  Twos
• 23:21
  are
• 23:21
  doing
• 23:21
  is
• 23:21
  they
• 23:22
  have
• 23:22
  this
• 23:22
  additional
• 23:22
  awareness,
• 23:23
  but
• 23:23
  they
• 23:23
  have
• 23:23
  no
• 23:24
  information
• 23:24
  to.
• 23:25
  To
• 23:25
  fill
• 23:25
  it.
• 23:25
  And
• 23:26
  so
• 23:26
  they're
• 23:26
  challenging
• 23:27
  the
• 23:27
  world
• 23:27
  around
• 23:28
  them
• 23:28
  in
• 23:28
  order
• 23:28
  to
• 23:29
  provide
• 23:30
  them
• 23:30
  with
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  information
• 23:31
  that
• 23:31
  they
• 23:31
  need
• 23:31
  in
• 23:32
  order
• 23:32
  to
• 23:33
  develop
• 23:33
  further
• 23:34
  develop
• 23:34
  their
• 23:35
  hierophant,
• 23:36
  their
• 23:36
  perception
• 23:37
  of
• 23:37
  self.
• 23:38
  The
• 23:38
  same
• 23:38
  thing
• 23:39
  occurs
• 23:39
  again
• 23:40
  when
• 23:40
  we
• 23:40
  are
• 23:42
  going
• 23:42
  through
• 23:42
  puberty,
• 23:43
  and
• 23:43
  that's
• 23:44
  why
• 23:44
  teenage
• 23:44
  years
• 23:45
  are
• 23:45
  so
• 23:45
  difficult,
• 23:46
  is
• 23:46
  we
• 23:46
  have
• 23:47
  adult
• 23:47
  capacity
• 23:48
  for
• 23:48
  awareness,
• 23:48
  but
• 23:49
  we
• 23:49
  have
• 23:49
  no
• 23:49
  information.
• 23:51
  And
• 23:51
  so
• 23:51
  we're
• 23:51
  trying
• 23:52
  to
• 23:52
  gather
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  information
• 23:53
  to
• 23:54
  fill
• 23:54
  the
• 23:54
  void
• 23:54
  that
• 23:55
  has
• 23:55
  been
• 23:55
  left
• 23:56
  by
• 23:56
  this
• 23:56
  increased
• 23:57
  awareness,
• 23:57
  but
• 23:57
  not
• 23:58
  additional
• 23:58
  information.
• 24:00
  We
• 24:00
  will
• 24:00
  stay
• 24:01
  at
• 24:01
  that
• 24:01
  range
• 24:01
  of
• 24:02
  consciousness
• 24:02
  until
• 24:03
  we
• 24:03
  assume
• 24:04
  the
• 24:04
  responsibility
• 24:05
  to
• 24:06
  open
• 24:06
  our
• 24:07
  next
• 24:07
  metaphysical
• 24:08
  range
• 24:09
  of
• 24:10
  chakra,
• 24:11
  our
• 24:11
  next
• 24:11
  metaphysical
• 24:12
  chakra.
• 24:13
  If
• 24:13
  we
• 24:14
  do
• 24:14
  not,
• 24:14
  we
• 24:14
  will
• 24:15
  repeat
• 24:16
  our
• 24:16
  incarnational
• 24:17
  process,
• 24:18
  conceivably
• 24:19
  forever,
• 24:20
  until
• 24:21
  we
• 24:21
  awaken,
• 24:22
  as
• 24:23
  we
• 24:23
  talked
• 24:24
  about
• 24:24
  briefly,
• 24:25
  and
• 24:25
  assume
• 24:26
  responsibility
• 24:27
  for
• 24:27
  our
• 24:27
  progression
• 24:28
  through
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  evolutionary
• 24:29
  path.
• 24:31
  This
• 24:31
  sounds.
• 24:33
  Adam,
• 24:34
  maybe
• 24:34
  you
• 24:34
  can
• 24:34
  remember
• 24:35
  the
• 24:36
  Bill
• 24:36
  Murray
• 24:36
  film
• 24:38
  that
• 24:38
  he
• 24:38
  keeps
• 24:39
  repeating.
• 24:39
  Groundhog
• 24:40
  Day.
• 24:40
  Groundhog
• 24:41
  Day.
• 24:41
  Right.
• 24:41
  Groundhog
• 24:42
  Day.
• 24:42
  Yeah.
• 24:43
  We
• 24:43
  all
• 24:43
  have
• 24:43
  our
• 24:44
  patterns.
• 24:44
  Well,
• 24:44
  I
• 24:45
  got
• 24:45
  news
• 24:45
  for
• 24:45
  you.
• 24:45
  We've
• 24:46
  been.
• 24:46
  We've
• 24:46
  been
• 24:46
  in
• 24:46
  the
• 24:46
  groundhog.
• 24:47
  This.
• 24:47
  Our
• 24:48
  population
• 24:48
  has
• 24:49
  been
• 24:49
  in
• 24:49
  Groundhog
• 24:50
  Day.
• 24:50
  For
• 24:50
  this
• 24:51
  is
• 24:51
  our
• 24:52
  fourth
• 24:53
  planet.
• 24:54
  Oh,
• 24:55
  okay.
• 24:56
  Not
• 24:56
  just
• 24:56
  Earth,
• 24:57
  but
• 24:57
  the
• 24:57
  fourth
• 24:57
  planet.
• 24:58
  We
• 24:58
  didn't
• 24:59
  do
• 24:59
  well
• 24:59
  with
• 24:59
  the
• 24:59
  other
• 25:00
  three
• 25:00
  planets
• 25:01
  either.
• 25:01
  Well,
• 25:02
  hopefully
• 25:02
  we
• 25:03
  can
• 25:04
  come
• 25:05
  to
• 25:05
  a
• 25:05
  higher
• 25:06
  level
• 25:06
  of
• 25:06
  resonance.
• 25:07
  Well,
• 25:08
  there
• 25:08
  are
• 25:08
  lots
• 25:08
  of
• 25:08
  things
• 25:09
  happening
• 25:09
  in
• 25:09
  order
• 25:10
  to
• 25:11
  further
• 25:11
  ensure
• 25:12
  that
• 25:12
  that
• 25:12
  will
• 25:12
  happen.
• 25:13
  Right,
• 25:13
  right.
• 25:14
  Well,
• 25:14
  we're
• 25:14
  coming
• 25:15
  up
• 25:15
  on
• 25:15
  another
• 25:15
  break.
• 25:16
  And.
• 25:18
  I'm
• 25:19
  Anthony
• 25:19
  Wright,
• 25:20
  and
• 25:20
  I
• 25:20
  am
• 25:20
  your
• 25:20
  co
• 25:21
  host
• 25:21
  today
• 25:21
  on
• 25:21
  the
• 25:21
  Living
• 25:22
  Conversation
• 25:22
  with
• 25:23
  my
• 25:23
  co
• 25:23
  host.
• 25:24
  Yeah.
• 25:24
  Adam
• 25:25
  Dietz.
• 25:25
  And
• 25:25
  we're
• 25:26
  talking
• 25:26
  with
• 25:26
  our
• 25:27
  guest,
• 25:27
  Dean
• 25:28
  Graves.
• 25:30
  And
• 25:30
  Dean,
• 25:30
  you
• 25:31
  are
• 25:31
  a
• 25:33
  author,
• 25:33
  podcaster,
• 25:34
  keynote
• 25:34
  speaker,
• 25:35
  mental
• 25:35
  health
• 25:35
  counselor,
• 25:36
  and
• 25:36
  meditation
• 25:37
  mindfulness
• 25:37
  guide.
• 25:38
  And
• 25:38
  how
• 25:38
  can
• 25:39
  people
• 25:39
  contact
• 25:39
  you?
• 25:41
  They
• 25:41
  can
• 25:41
  contact
• 25:41
  me
• 25:42
  through
• 25:42
  my
• 25:42
  website,
• 25:42
  the
• 25:43
  initial
• 25:43
  ddeangraves.org
• 25:46
  and
• 25:46
  all
• 25:46
  my
• 25:46
  books
• 25:47
  and
• 25:47
  podcasts.
• 25:48
  Everything
• 25:48
  is
• 25:48
  referenced
• 25:49
  on
• 25:49
  that.
• 25:49
  Great.
• 25:50
  All
• 25:50
  right,
• 25:51
  we're
• 25:51
  going
• 25:51
  to
• 25:51
  take
• 25:51
  a
• 25:51
  short
• 25:52
  break,
• 25:52
  so
• 25:53
  stay
• 25:53
  tuned.