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- 3:32Speaker 1: they're very consistent with their goals and very uh, very
- 3:36Speaker 1: articulate and how they're changing the world. Their true entrepreneurs
- 3:39Speaker 1: and on the show today to talk about several of
- 3:41Speaker 1: their enterprises. There are many. They're the co creators and
- 3:45Speaker 1: this is something new co founders, a fragrance line for
- 3:48Speaker 1: men and women. You know, I gotta talk about that.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Rashaan always like to smell good. Sprinkle of Jesus, which
- 3:54Speaker 1: is the number one Christian mobile app with over five
- 3:56Speaker 1: million users, curl Bible which is the number one Black
- 4:00Speaker 1: owned online but you just supply distribution store, and Jumping
- 4:04Speaker 1: Jack Tax the fastest growing tax preparation service company in
- 4:07Speaker 1: the country. See all I lay it out there. They
- 4:10Speaker 1: number one across the board. Bam, bam, bam bam. Please
- 4:13Speaker 1: welcome back to Money Making Conversation. My girl Danish and
- 4:17Speaker 1: now and my boy Prince done. What's up team and Prince,
- 4:21Speaker 1: how y'all doing? Good morning? How are you d you
- 4:26Speaker 1: literally give a little exciting introduction we've ever heard, so
- 4:30Speaker 1: thank you for that. You are so good at what
- 4:32Speaker 1: you do. Well, you guys are good at what you do.
- 4:35Speaker 1: You know, I recently had prints on the show and
- 4:37Speaker 1: I wanted this, Uh, thank you guys. I gave him
- 4:40Speaker 1: some information. I think I told Prince about the success
- 4:43Speaker 1: when you when you guys came down to the HBCU
- 4:45Speaker 1: week that was in Wimington, Delaware, September twenty or last year. UM,
- 4:49Speaker 1: you know with that college fair where you were speaking
- 4:51Speaker 1: at dana UM they had owned registration for hbc U
- 4:55Speaker 1: schools and they registered twelve hundred students over full during
- 5:00Speaker 1: the twenty seven receives scholarships full and partial. They total
- 5:04Speaker 1: three point nine million dollars. Wow, that's that level of participation.
- 5:11Speaker 1: You you have to take credit. You were there. You know,
- 5:13Speaker 1: your your time was there, Your time was spaid. Prince
- 5:16Speaker 1: was there doing his thing, motivating talking though. I remember
- 5:19Speaker 1: you guys sat down and hit the conversation with Stephen A.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Smith about what what you guys are trying to do.
- 5:24Speaker 1: And there's always you, always the both of you guys
- 5:26Speaker 1: are always moving forward to inspire people. I want to
- 5:29Speaker 1: hear from you first day and then Prince, I want
- 5:32Speaker 1: you to share your vision on moving forward? What what
- 5:35Speaker 1: what drives that inspiration? I mean, the goal is to
- 5:40Speaker 1: move forward together, you know what I mean? I just
- 5:42Speaker 1: feel like there are so many you know all we're
- 5:46Speaker 1: all about family business, and we're all about family generational
- 5:49Speaker 1: wealth and and the goal is for us to continue
- 5:52Speaker 1: to aspire that one person in the family who has
- 5:55Speaker 1: the chosen one. Because at the end day, we know
- 5:57Speaker 1: that our message is not for everyone. We know that
- 5:59Speaker 1: everyone's not called to be an entrepreneur, we know that
- 6:02Speaker 1: everyone is not called to be a leader. But if
- 6:04Speaker 1: our message and we could just get it out to
- 6:07Speaker 1: that specific chosen person and your family and their family
- 6:12Speaker 1: and the families across the country, then we can rise
- 6:16Speaker 1: them up to the accountability and responsibility level that they
- 6:19Speaker 1: need to have in order to change the next generation
- 6:22Speaker 1: of their family. And so when it comes to business,
- 6:25Speaker 1: there's just so many hidden talents and just extraordinary things
- 6:29Speaker 1: that each individual family member could do, but there was
- 6:32Speaker 1: just never that one person that could pull it all
- 6:34Speaker 1: together for them to do it. For each other instead
- 6:37Speaker 1: of doing it for a corporation who could care less
- 6:39Speaker 1: what responsibility you have. And you are just a number,
- 6:41Speaker 1: You are just a you know, you're just a You're
- 6:44Speaker 1: just a person that at any point in time they
- 6:45Speaker 1: can let go. And so for us, our vision behind
- 6:48Speaker 1: all of our companies is literally creating an opportunity from
- 6:52Speaker 1: licensing to um with jumping jack tax to distribution for
- 6:58Speaker 1: getting people's products out there. But what's most important is
- 7:01Speaker 1: that we were able to do it together. And Don
- 7:03Speaker 1: and I have quickly found like what we're both individually
- 7:09Speaker 1: really good at, and then together it's like we have
- 7:11Speaker 1: absolutely no weaknesses and so um our recent project that
- 7:15Speaker 1: we came out with was co Founders, which is a
- 7:18Speaker 1: his and her fragrance on their two completely different sense
- 7:22Speaker 1: um and the goal behind it was, Dude, you have
- 7:26Speaker 1: no idea how much love and support we've gotten from
- 7:31Speaker 1: like social media, like people always in especially like older
- 7:34Speaker 1: people too, so like oh my gosh, social media is
- 7:36Speaker 1: the enemy blah blah blah, like it's the devil's playground,
- 7:39Speaker 1: but it also the breeding ground of purpose and extraordinary
- 7:42Speaker 1: like love when you're using it in the right way.
- 7:45Speaker 1: And from the beginning, since me and Don have started dating,
- 7:48Speaker 1: like literally, so many people have been so supportive, so
- 7:50Speaker 1: we just kind of wanted to put it in product form.
- 7:53Speaker 1: It's called co founders because we believe that every family business,
- 7:56Speaker 1: every family unit, starts with its co founders. Well, great, prince,
- 8:00Speaker 1: your turn, my man. I was kind of challenging the
- 8:05Speaker 1: file from there, but well, you know, I let the
- 8:08Speaker 1: headline and go first night, Let the headline go first.
- 8:14Speaker 1: That's the benefits of being with an extraordinary women. So
- 8:18Speaker 1: I think that she summed it up correct, is that
- 8:23Speaker 1: we are the co founders of our family, and we've
- 8:27Speaker 1: been using this term more and more over the past
- 8:29Speaker 1: few months. I think that when me and Dana first
- 8:32Speaker 1: originally started our brands, it was separate. You know, she
- 8:36Speaker 1: had her own separate brand and what she was selling
- 8:38Speaker 1: it and I had my own separate brand and what
- 8:40Speaker 1: I was selling because we were trying to build individually.
- 8:43Speaker 1: But now we've come to realize over these of course
- 8:47Speaker 1: of these past six months, that everything that we do
- 8:51Speaker 1: together in a sense of promotion and a sense of
- 8:54Speaker 1: putting our minds together from a business standpoint, from a
- 8:57Speaker 1: marketing standpoint, knowing how to run the company from a
- 9:00Speaker 1: corporate perspective when we put it like how to lead
- 9:04Speaker 1: our teams effectively, that when we put our minds together, uh,
- 9:08Speaker 1: we we just truly can be stopped. And when we're believers,
- 9:11Speaker 1: were we're believers that you know, uh, that our business
- 9:15Speaker 1: will only go as far as the bond that we
- 9:18Speaker 1: have with each other. And so we lean on each
- 9:21Speaker 1: other and we understand our weaknesses, we understand our strengths,
- 9:24Speaker 1: and we we we play our lane and play our position.
- 9:27Speaker 1: And ultimately what keeps I don't know, you know, Danny
- 9:30Speaker 1: gave her perspective, but what keeps me going is that, Um,
- 9:33Speaker 1: I believe that it sounds cliche, but I truly have
- 9:37Speaker 1: a purpose from God of understanding that uh we're sent
- 9:41Speaker 1: here on this earth with a mission. Right like for example,
- 9:45Speaker 1: when Moses was sent here, when Jesus was sent here,
- 9:48Speaker 1: when Abraham was sent here, they all had missions that
- 9:51Speaker 1: they had to play and that mission could not be
- 9:55Speaker 1: like in no way, shape or form, nobody could deter
- 9:58Speaker 1: them from that mission. They knew that they to hit
- 10:00Speaker 1: the target. And even when you look at uh animals, right,
- 10:04Speaker 1: an animal when he's when he or she is on
- 10:07Speaker 1: this earth has a mission to either mate to hunt
- 10:10Speaker 1: and to reproduce, like reproduce, and they follow that mission
- 10:14Speaker 1: to the team. Humans make it complicated. So for me,
- 10:19Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to the point to where
- 10:23Speaker 1: I'm not trying to complicate my life but focusing in
- 10:26Speaker 1: specifically on the mission of what God has me here
- 10:30Speaker 1: to do until it's my time to go. And uh
- 10:35Speaker 1: hopefully I hopefully I make him proud of that that
- 10:38Speaker 1: make me proud and that I'm telling you it really does.
- 10:43Speaker 1: As a couple, you make me proud because in the
- 10:45Speaker 1: lanes that you guys are changing the game. First of all,
- 10:48Speaker 1: usually it's like people before that, you know, people my age,
- 10:50Speaker 1: you know, we experience people you know, you know, and
- 10:53Speaker 1: you guys are like telling young people and it's important
- 10:56Speaker 1: that you hear there's in a positive manner because like
- 10:58Speaker 1: I told Prince last he's on the show, Dan, I
- 11:01Speaker 1: went to the website and I saw these young people
- 11:03Speaker 1: on the cover, you know, and that letting letting them know.
- 11:07Speaker 1: And I always tell people in my conversation with him
- 11:09Speaker 1: this that your dream starts in your in your early years,
- 11:14Speaker 1: you know, when you're in a team, to when you
- 11:15Speaker 1: you know you're inspired to do great things. And what
- 11:18Speaker 1: happens is when people hit their forties and fifties, sometimes
- 11:21Speaker 1: those dreams are have been in a different direction. They
- 11:24Speaker 1: may get mad, they may have kids. They might people
- 11:26Speaker 1: if they saw listening to the wrong people too much,
- 11:28Speaker 1: saying hey, man, you're crazy for doing that. I remember
- 11:30Speaker 1: when I left IBM to be a stand up comic.
- 11:32Speaker 1: You know what, I many people told me I was crazy,
- 11:34Speaker 1: But look at me now. So you have to you
- 11:36Speaker 1: have to stop listening to people and so. But you
- 11:38Speaker 1: guys didn't listen y'all, y'all stay focused because you had
- 11:41Speaker 1: a family of entrepreneurship pushing you forward. That drive, it's
- 11:46Speaker 1: what makes you successful today. Just this this, I'm about
- 11:49Speaker 1: to wrap up this break because you know you guys, y'all, y'all.
- 11:51Speaker 1: You know I could just say as one question, I'm
- 11:53Speaker 1: gonna talk about two or three minutes. That's why I
- 11:54Speaker 1: love both of you. I don't have to work. I
- 11:56Speaker 1: don't have to work when I get d n P
- 11:57Speaker 1: on the phone, you know, Dan and prints on the phone.
- 11:59Speaker 1: But what I do want to make sure that people
- 12:01Speaker 1: understand that Jumping Jack Taxes is the first and fastest
- 12:05Speaker 1: growing tax company in the country to bring tax professional
- 12:08Speaker 1: to you. Just located Jumping Jack partner on our mobile app.
- 12:13Speaker 1: That right there, My man, it's a game change. We
- 12:15Speaker 1: come back, We're gonna get a little bit more detailed
- 12:17Speaker 1: because I want to also talk about the co founders.
- 12:19Speaker 1: We kind of like glossed over that because you know,
- 12:21Speaker 1: you got to ship me some cologne on here so
- 12:23Speaker 1: I can smell good for the young folks. You're back
- 12:26Speaker 1: from more money making conversations with Sean McDonald and my
- 12:30Speaker 1: favorite couple, Dana and Prince. Hi just ra Sean McDonald
- 12:41Speaker 1: and you're listening to money making conversation? Is tax season?
- 12:44Speaker 1: And Dana and Prince created the virtual tax preparation service
- 12:47Speaker 1: Jumping Jack Tax and the book keeping service software jack
- 12:52Speaker 1: Books to help people file their taxes and manage their
- 12:55Speaker 1: business finances on the phone. Is Dana and press tell
- 12:59Speaker 1: me again? Uh? I know French, she was on the
- 13:01Speaker 1: show of December talking about this. Dana as well. Talk
- 13:04Speaker 1: to me about exactly why did jump in Jack tax
- 13:08Speaker 1: jump off? How can you license it? And why is
- 13:11Speaker 1: it growing so fast? Absolutely? Uh well, basically I think
- 13:17Speaker 1: number one we can all agree right now that the
- 13:20Speaker 1: tax business is a universal service. Me need that every
- 13:25Speaker 1: single person across the country one needs their taxes done
- 13:29Speaker 1: or they're going to get penalties that they're going to
- 13:31Speaker 1: go to jail. Thank the government for that. So, but
- 13:34Speaker 1: that being we went into an industry where every single
- 13:39Speaker 1: person needs their taxes done, so everybody is your customer.
- 13:42Speaker 1: And also when you look at it as well, when
- 13:45Speaker 1: you when you walk around our communities, this is a
- 13:47Speaker 1: need based business. This is something that everybody, uh, everybody needs.
- 13:51Speaker 1: So when I look at it, I say to myself, Uh,
- 13:54Speaker 1: this is a perfect business for uh, somebody that wants
- 13:59Speaker 1: to go into entrepreneur worship it needs a blueprint, or
- 14:02Speaker 1: somebody that is already in entrepreneurship but looking for an
- 14:05Speaker 1: additional stream of revenue, or an entrepreneur who's looking for
- 14:08Speaker 1: an exit playing out of the business that they're currently in.
- 14:11Speaker 1: I think Taxes is the perfect opportunity. And the reason
- 14:14Speaker 1: why it's jumping off the way it is with so
- 14:17Speaker 1: much momentum is because we've created a blueprint. I think
- 14:21Speaker 1: something that why the reason why you see so many
- 14:24Speaker 1: nel salons all across the country is because they have
- 14:28Speaker 1: a set blueprint in place that whoever wants opened up
- 14:31Speaker 1: in nelsalon. That's in the Asian community can follow that
- 14:33Speaker 1: blueprint to the tea and just open it up. But
- 14:36Speaker 1: people hate complication, especially going into entrepreneurship. Um everybody, I
- 14:41Speaker 1: don't believe that everybody is a visionary, right, You've got
- 14:45Speaker 1: some people who can follow a system, because remember we
- 14:48Speaker 1: were all taught to follow systems from from from children.
- 14:51Speaker 1: You know, go to school, go to lunch, go to break,
- 14:54Speaker 1: do our homework, come back to school every day. And
- 14:57Speaker 1: we're doing that every single day of our of our
- 14:59Speaker 1: entire life eyes. So people follow systems very rarely do
- 15:04Speaker 1: you have somebody that goes the opposite way of the
- 15:06Speaker 1: system to start something, you know, creative. So what we
- 15:10Speaker 1: did was we wanted to create a simple system, a
- 15:12Speaker 1: simple blueprint that when we license out the Jumping Jack
- 15:16Speaker 1: Tax brand to you or whoever is listening to this,
- 15:19Speaker 1: basically you hop on, we give you the blueprint and
- 15:22Speaker 1: you'll be able to start generating revenue right away. And
- 15:25Speaker 1: that's the reason why it's becoming so popular because people
- 15:28Speaker 1: are like, wow, I didn't know how simple it was
- 15:30Speaker 1: for me to do this. Now I'm not saying simplicity
- 15:32Speaker 1: in the sense of you don't got to do work,
- 15:34Speaker 1: because within any system, you still gotta work hard, but
- 15:37Speaker 1: the work required to build the foundational piece of the business,
- 15:41Speaker 1: that's the part that they're skipping over, uh to be
- 15:44Speaker 1: able to start generating revenue. And that's when made Jumping
- 15:47Speaker 1: Jack Tax super unique. I don't think that we did
- 15:49Speaker 1: anything different than other tax companies other than the fact
- 15:52Speaker 1: that we did, of course implement technology, but technology was
- 15:56Speaker 1: still already around in the tax industry to begin with. Um,
- 15:59Speaker 1: you have other tax companies that have way bigger, way
- 16:03Speaker 1: bigger budgets for technology. But I think that we brought
- 16:06Speaker 1: such a great cool perspective, a fresh and cool perspective,
- 16:10Speaker 1: and we also brought the culture to the company. What
- 16:13Speaker 1: do I mean by the culture? While when you look
- 16:15Speaker 1: at a lot of other tax companies, many of them
- 16:18Speaker 1: are are ran by those of the white community, or
- 16:23Speaker 1: maybe not the white community, of other other nationalities that
- 16:26Speaker 1: are not African American or other minorities such as Hispanic.
- 16:31Speaker 1: So when we brought the culture, we now brought this
- 16:34Speaker 1: vision to where the everyday person can do taxes from
- 16:38Speaker 1: their home and they got a sweatsuit on and they
- 16:41Speaker 1: look really cool like in every day individual. So with
- 16:45Speaker 1: that being said, it made everybody say, wow, you look
- 16:48Speaker 1: just like me, and you prepare taxes in generating money.
- 16:52Speaker 1: I didn't know that I could do that, And now
- 16:54Speaker 1: everybody is like, hey, this is this is a great
- 16:57Speaker 1: opportunity for me. Really, it really is because of the
- 17:00Speaker 1: fact that you're, you know, the the young generation, and
- 17:03Speaker 1: you guys are the young generations get such a bad rap.
- 17:06Speaker 1: You know, you want to do things. You don't work hard.
- 17:09Speaker 1: You know, you know you you you you wanna, you
- 17:12Speaker 1: want to run before you crawl, you know. But but
- 17:15Speaker 1: I love the fact that again, you're talking to your audience. Okay,
- 17:20Speaker 1: And I tell you right now that that audience you're
- 17:22Speaker 1: talking to I probably wouldn't reach. I probably wouldn't reach
- 17:25Speaker 1: because I'm not relatable. Because I'm there, I'm there. I
- 17:28Speaker 1: look like their father, I look like their uncle. You know.
- 17:31Speaker 1: You know. Okay, but then you you looking at YouTube tractive,
- 17:36Speaker 1: intelligent artick lick couple saying you can be me in
- 17:41Speaker 1: that same age twenty two three, twenty four, twenty six,
- 17:45Speaker 1: I can be you? Well, how can I be you?
- 17:48Speaker 1: Then you guys started talking. Then Daniels started talking, and
- 17:51Speaker 1: when she get tied prints take hold, I got your
- 17:53Speaker 1: baby tag team. We're gonna go get this money. I'm
- 17:55Speaker 1: gonna get paid. We're gonna let people, these young people
- 17:57Speaker 1: know they could be the look like us. They could
- 17:59Speaker 1: be millionaires and too, they could be millionaires of twenty
- 18:01Speaker 1: five correctly, correctly, that is what That's why I'm so
- 18:07Speaker 1: motivated when I talked to you, too, because at twenty two,
- 18:11Speaker 1: I didn't know who Rashana mcdonne was. You know, I was.
- 18:14Speaker 1: They took me seven years to graduate from college, so
- 18:16Speaker 1: I was just I was, you know, I was trying
- 18:18Speaker 1: to figure it out. And then when I was when
- 18:20Speaker 1: I figured it out, I was still allowing other people
- 18:22Speaker 1: to direct me and Shin, I don't know about that
- 18:27Speaker 1: because what I've learned is that you cannot talk to
- 18:29Speaker 1: people who cannot understand your dreams, because you cannot talk
- 18:33Speaker 1: to somebody who goes to work and realize they want
- 18:35Speaker 1: a career as afford they are afford our weak career
- 18:38Speaker 1: because they want They know what they're gonna do there,
- 18:41Speaker 1: and there's nothing negative. They know they're gonna be as
- 18:43Speaker 1: a bank teller. They know what they're gonna do if
- 18:45Speaker 1: they're a shelf, they know what they're gonna do if
- 18:47Speaker 1: they're truck driving or or data management person they know.
- 18:51Speaker 1: But if you asked me what I do every day,
- 18:53Speaker 1: I'm gonna really go I don't really, I really don't
- 18:56Speaker 1: feel like telling you because it's so tiring because of
- 19:00Speaker 1: changes every day. Isn't that correct, Nina? Yeah, absolutely, But
- 19:05Speaker 1: I think there's something extraordinary that you mentioned. I would say,
- 19:10Speaker 1: once again, the only reason we are here. And I
- 19:13Speaker 1: think this is very important to say out loud because
- 19:16Speaker 1: I hate the idea of like everyone on social media
- 19:19Speaker 1: being quote unquote successful, but yet you don't know their
- 19:22Speaker 1: history and not understanding where their money comes from. Because money,
- 19:25Speaker 1: like whenever you buy something, there's a receipt, whenever you
- 19:28Speaker 1: got the r SCS, money has been transferred. It needs
- 19:31Speaker 1: to be taxed, right, so there needs to be a
- 19:33Speaker 1: clear history. Okay, how are these young stupid kids who
- 19:36Speaker 1: are like you said, how why older people call us
- 19:39Speaker 1: um they're so they're so stupid, they're just young, they're
- 19:41Speaker 1: just run in real fact, they don't know what they're doing, Like,
- 19:44Speaker 1: how is it that they're year old millionaires and the
- 19:47Speaker 1: and the answer is is because this is what happens
- 19:50Speaker 1: when you build a strong foundation in the household and
- 19:53Speaker 1: you mix old wisdom with young stamina. And that is
- 19:58Speaker 1: the key that is important when you mix old old
- 20:01Speaker 1: wisdoms given by our father an extraordinary plans. And I
- 20:07Speaker 1: think that's something that we need to just remember, is
- 20:10Speaker 1: that the goal isn't for your kids to go figure
- 20:12Speaker 1: it out, go into more debt and then make decisions
- 20:15Speaker 1: trying to look for their life when we're supposed to
- 20:18Speaker 1: be starting life with thirty forty years experience. However old
- 20:20Speaker 1: your parents are. And so when our dad looked at
- 20:23Speaker 1: us and said, yo, I see your gifts and I
- 20:24Speaker 1: see your talents. Right, John, you're good with numbers, and
- 20:26Speaker 1: you're good with finances, right, and then I see you're
- 20:29Speaker 1: good with with communication skills. Got to hear you're good
- 20:31Speaker 1: with marketing, and I see that you're going to bring
- 20:32Speaker 1: people together for a common goal in a cals you
- 20:35Speaker 1: guys would be great. Let's actually pick a product or
- 20:37Speaker 1: service that actually is beneficial to our community. And so
- 20:41Speaker 1: once again it started with our co founders, and we
- 20:43Speaker 1: were our dad's first co founders. Now as we push
- 20:46Speaker 1: the envelope and we're taking on the next generation, we
- 20:48Speaker 1: will be the co founders of the next generation of
- 20:51Speaker 1: the family. Now when my father dies, and so we
- 20:53Speaker 1: are only in the tax business because there was wisdom
- 20:55Speaker 1: that said, hey, this is extraordinary service that you better,
- 20:59Speaker 1: you better take this over. But what happens is the
- 21:01Speaker 1: reason why we're jumping so far ahead of these other companies,
- 21:04Speaker 1: like I won't even say their names, because they don't
- 21:06Speaker 1: pay us right, they're not listening to young people. They're
- 21:10Speaker 1: not listening to us. And mind you, they're not even
- 21:12Speaker 1: utilizing our our stamina to say, yo, I got these
- 21:15Speaker 1: young kids who are willing to fight for a cause
- 21:18Speaker 1: and bring people together to let me use them. So
- 21:20Speaker 1: once again, our lane was so open. I believe on
- 21:23Speaker 1: God fooes us for this because he saw that our
- 21:25Speaker 1: families was willing to share, share money, share information, share opportunity.
- 21:30Speaker 1: And that's the only reason why we're here today is
- 21:33Speaker 1: because God saw that we were a family that was
- 21:35Speaker 1: going to rise up a nation of other minority families
- 21:37Speaker 1: to be self sufficient, self reliant, and capable of making
- 21:40Speaker 1: money so that we don't fall behind the april when
- 21:43Speaker 1: these jobs are sitting there just firing us because computers
- 21:46Speaker 1: are taking over. So that's specifically why my dad gave
- 21:49Speaker 1: us wisdom and we built the company there you go,
- 21:51Speaker 1: there you go, see you. I'll tell you I just
- 21:53Speaker 1: love to talk about Let me just tell you something
- 21:56Speaker 1: about this, uh, this conversation we have it. How do
- 21:59Speaker 1: I'll just want to reach out? How does want to
- 22:01Speaker 1: get in touch about becoming a part of the Jummy
- 22:04Speaker 1: Jack text platform and the book he from software service
- 22:08Speaker 1: Jack Books. Yeah, download the Jumping Jack tax app. All
- 22:12Speaker 1: our contact information is in there. Don't ever be afraid
- 22:14Speaker 1: to give us a call. But most importantly, like like,
- 22:17Speaker 1: and I just want to thank you for such an
- 22:18Speaker 1: extraordinary platform. Is like, dude, we can't keep listening to
- 22:22Speaker 1: inspirational content but doing nothing with what God breeds. Inspiration.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Inspire means God breathe. And so my thing is when
- 22:29Speaker 1: God breathes life into your mind, whoever is listening, who's ever,
- 22:32Speaker 1: whoever's watching, When God says something to you and gives
- 22:35Speaker 1: you that bright idea or that very thing that says,
- 22:38Speaker 1: you know what I need to make a change, do
- 22:40Speaker 1: something about it, act on it. Stop listening to inspirational content,
- 22:44Speaker 1: stop watching it on social media on Instagram fifty million times,
- 22:47Speaker 1: and let's do something about it. We are not out
- 22:49Speaker 1: here for our health. We're not out here for you
- 22:51Speaker 1: to watch us the most importantly, We're out here to
- 22:53Speaker 1: make sure you can provide for your family, So please
- 22:55Speaker 1: download the Jumping Jack tax app and support the co founders.
- 22:58Speaker 1: We're just trying to do every thing we possibly can
- 23:01Speaker 1: to make sure our families are good and not just
- 23:03Speaker 1: are yours? Still? Now? Friends? Amen? Can I get amen?
- 23:06Speaker 1: Right there? I gotta throw amen. Let everybody know you
- 23:09Speaker 1: your transition from that without saying amen or hallelujah. Now,
- 23:15Speaker 1: I want to say thank you so much. And I'm
- 23:16Speaker 1: so proud of what you're doing. And I'm glad that
- 23:18Speaker 1: wisdom like you helps and and put puts their hand
- 23:21Speaker 1: down to rise up young people like us. And I
- 23:23Speaker 1: just want to say thank you so much. This show
- 23:25Speaker 1: is so much for that, and I'm just so grateful.
- 23:28Speaker 1: I'm just tell you something. It's it's it's you know,
- 23:30Speaker 1: it took me a minute to figure out what rochean
- 23:33Speaker 1: what my what my next step in life. I've had
- 23:35Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of success in my life, but this
- 23:38Speaker 1: next step my legacy. This is my legacy journey. There'll
- 23:40Speaker 1: be able to create this platform and be able to
- 23:42Speaker 1: come on here. Hey, No. Nine and nine gonna pop
- 23:45Speaker 1: up when you click on my YouTube channel, my links.
- 23:48Speaker 1: So it's about this is free information. I'm fortunate to
- 23:51Speaker 1: get people like you to come on my show. You know,
- 23:53Speaker 1: there's no negative spirit on this show, so you can
- 23:56Speaker 1: tell people, Look, this is how we do it. Hard
- 23:58Speaker 1: work is always tied to six sense gold planning, persistency.
- 24:02Speaker 1: That's always And now now we've got this new fragrance line.
- 24:05Speaker 1: That's what really, that's why I wanted to bring you
- 24:07Speaker 1: on the show. Go and they's stepping over again, they's
- 24:10Speaker 1: stepping in a smell good lane co founders on Valentine's Day.
- 24:14Speaker 1: That's the launch date, Prince Absolutely. Lunch date is February four,
- 24:20Speaker 1: Chief two thousand and twenty. Now, now you got any
- 24:26Speaker 1: free at Banners dot com, which is also one of
- 24:29Speaker 1: our companies. But we wanted to not just um, you know,
- 24:32Speaker 1: drop the perkium and cologne line, but we wanted to
- 24:35Speaker 1: show people, Hey, you don't need permission, you know what
- 24:37Speaker 1: I mean, You don't need someone to tell you that
- 24:39Speaker 1: you can do this. We are on the owners of
- 24:41Speaker 1: the co founder name, we're owners of we trademark that
- 24:44Speaker 1: we're owners of the actual product itself and um all
- 24:49Speaker 1: the content and we're owners of the actual distribution platform,
- 24:52Speaker 1: and so we're here to support support not just us,
- 24:55Speaker 1: but the other people on carall Bible um. But we're very,
- 25:00Speaker 1: very excited and we just wanted a fragrance because it
- 25:02Speaker 1: is our love and our obedience to God. And when
- 25:05Speaker 1: we became co founders and became married, we brought two
- 25:09Speaker 1: families together that just broke so many generational curses, like
- 25:12Speaker 1: do you know that we were the first ever for
- 25:14Speaker 1: our family, our our little brother and sisters to see
- 25:16Speaker 1: a wedding m hm and your family. You can see
- 25:20Speaker 1: our parents get married before. So this is a huge
- 25:23Speaker 1: thing for us, for our family, for for you know,
- 25:26Speaker 1: for young black couples to see, there's no reason to
- 25:29Speaker 1: go looking for something you're not gonna find, but to
- 25:31Speaker 1: find purpose in your spouse. And you might as well
- 25:32Speaker 1: start getting to work for God as soon as possible
- 25:35Speaker 1: because your time is limited in here and both of you,
- 25:38Speaker 1: both of you to talk. You know, there's a responsibility
- 25:41Speaker 1: that comes because you know you're asking people to step
- 25:43Speaker 1: out and it's not the love. The point I like
- 25:46Speaker 1: is that it's not about just stepping out on fate,
- 25:48Speaker 1: but stepping out on the plan. And also you remind
- 25:51Speaker 1: people there's a lot of work involved. You know, let's
- 25:54Speaker 1: let's let's not just just don't get in land lying
- 25:57Speaker 1: with me. If you if you're hoping, if you hope
- 25:59Speaker 1: this happen, you know, harsh, I'll hope I get some money.
- 26:02Speaker 1: I show hope I get this, I get my taxes done,
- 26:05Speaker 1: I show hope I can start a business with them.
- 26:07Speaker 1: There's a business principle that's put in place, and that
- 26:10Speaker 1: that cares with a responsibility because people can follow you
- 26:13Speaker 1: out there and then not realizing that there's a certain
- 26:16Speaker 1: time commitment that has to be put in place. What
- 26:20Speaker 1: in saying that, then, what is the responsibility of being
- 26:24Speaker 1: who you two are when you're out there marketing, when
- 26:27Speaker 1: you're out there talking to people about being successful that
- 26:30Speaker 1: you can do or create your own legacy within the
- 26:33Speaker 1: minority community. I think the responsibility is showing ownership um
- 26:39Speaker 1: over the things that you have as opposed to what
- 26:41Speaker 1: you got um. I think one of the biggest one
- 26:44Speaker 1: of the biggest things I tell people all the time
- 26:46Speaker 1: is there's a difference between what you own versus what
- 26:50Speaker 1: you got right right, So, and this is what we
- 26:52Speaker 1: want to explain to people. This is the reason why
- 26:54Speaker 1: we're going to all of these different lanes because we
- 26:57Speaker 1: want to show the blueprint. Um, I give a clear
- 27:00Speaker 1: example of what that means. When people go to college,
- 27:03Speaker 1: for example, and they go and get a degree, they
- 27:06Speaker 1: think that they own a degree, but what they actually
- 27:08Speaker 1: got as a degree. And what I mean by that is, uh,
- 27:12Speaker 1: my definition of ownership is when you have the ability
- 27:15Speaker 1: to sell or transfer an asset at any given time,
- 27:18Speaker 1: at any given price, whenever you feel like it's right. Um,
- 27:22Speaker 1: I can because I own it, I own the name,
- 27:24Speaker 1: I own the right. Now, when you watch something, my
- 27:27Speaker 1: definition of what you got basically means that you're holding
- 27:31Speaker 1: this asset for the true owner. But at while you're
- 27:35Speaker 1: holding it, it comes with perks, right, that's this is
- 27:38Speaker 1: my definition of what you got. So my ideas when
- 27:41Speaker 1: you go to college, right, you go to college, you
- 27:43Speaker 1: get a degree, you don't own a degree. You got
- 27:46Speaker 1: a degree because if I got a degree, basically admit
- 27:48Speaker 1: that I could transfer or sell that degree to somebody
- 27:52Speaker 1: else if I wanted to, because I control the rules
- 27:54Speaker 1: of the degree. But the university told me no, I
- 27:58Speaker 1: can't do that. They said, no, you can't do that.
- 28:00Speaker 1: This is yours you gotta somebody else gotta go get it,
- 28:03Speaker 1: because that means you have right to sell um to us.
- 28:07Speaker 1: What we're trying to do is ownership. We're trying to
- 28:13Speaker 1: show true ownership, and basically in a sense of, Hey
- 28:16Speaker 1: own your name, Hey own intellectual properties, Hey only own
- 28:21Speaker 1: your ideas. Hey own real estate, Hey own stocks and bonds,
- 28:27Speaker 1: Hey own uh whatever it is that you have the
- 28:31Speaker 1: ability to sell or transfer down to your children or
- 28:36Speaker 1: to somebody else for profit, or in a sense of
- 28:41Speaker 1: if the economy were to collapse right now, do I
- 28:45Speaker 1: have anything to sell to be able to transfer for
- 28:48Speaker 1: the newest asset that makes my family comfortable? What if
- 28:52Speaker 1: that newest asset is right? Because we all need rights
- 28:55Speaker 1: in order to eat. But money no longer exists, Fiat
- 28:57Speaker 1: money is no longer around, So now I don't have
- 29:00Speaker 1: money no more because that that has no value. Do
- 29:03Speaker 1: I have some sort of asset that I own that
- 29:05Speaker 1: I can transfer now to say, Hey, I need to eat,
- 29:08Speaker 1: I need to take care of my family. And that's
- 29:10Speaker 1: basically all we're trying to do is co Foundlies is
- 29:12Speaker 1: just push that message that YO keep owning, keep owning,
- 29:15Speaker 1: and keep owning some things that you own may not
- 29:18Speaker 1: have any value. Some things that you own may collapse.
- 29:21Speaker 1: Other things that you own, though, might end up increasing
- 29:24Speaker 1: in value. And the more that you keep trying to
- 29:26Speaker 1: own things, the more that it's going to uh, something's
- 29:30Speaker 1: gonna stick that you're now going to be able to
- 29:33Speaker 1: transfer and have access to to have with your family.
- 29:36Speaker 1: But I just preached the ownership part as opposed to
- 29:39Speaker 1: people chasing the things that they got that that that
- 29:42Speaker 1: can be taken from the man in the given time.
- 29:44Speaker 1: Oh my man, we're talking. I'm talking to the creators
- 29:46Speaker 1: of co founders Freglan's Land for men and women that
- 29:49Speaker 1: will drop on Valentine's Day of this year. Uh. Sprinkle
- 29:53Speaker 1: of Jesus, the number one Christian mobile Apple over five
- 29:56Speaker 1: million and counting users, curl Bible, which is the number
- 30:00Speaker 1: one black owned online beauty supply distribution store, and Jumping
- 30:04Speaker 1: Jack Tax the fastest growing tax preparation service company in
- 30:08Speaker 1: the country. They're the best DNP. That's what I call
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- 32:59Speaker 1: first see into the new Food Network show Chop Sweets.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Her dream is to provide pastries and chocolates, private chef services, catering,
- 33:08Speaker 1: consulting and teaching on a grander scale. Please working the
- 33:11Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. Executive pastry chef amber Croom, Hi, I
- 33:19Speaker 1: can mess up your intro and bro, I had the
- 33:20Speaker 1: head that slow it down. I can't do that. I
- 33:23Speaker 1: slow down. You know you're coming on my show. You
- 33:25Speaker 1: know they ended that out, you know they it's definitely
- 33:29Speaker 1: a mouthful. But you know the thing I gotta, I gotta,
- 33:32Speaker 1: you know, give you what you've accomplished. And that's what
- 33:34Speaker 1: this interview and what I do on Money Making Conversation
- 33:36Speaker 1: because I always tell people there are a lot of
- 33:38Speaker 1: stars out there, and this in the in the world
- 33:40Speaker 1: of entrepreneurship, in the world of baking, I'm I'm on
- 33:44Speaker 1: the war winning baking. So I was like, you know,
- 33:47Speaker 1: you're a little happy when I talked to other bakers,
- 33:49Speaker 1: and because we're like a little club, because you know,
- 33:52Speaker 1: I always tell people I cannot watch TV. I cannot
- 33:55Speaker 1: watch I cannot listen to music when I'm baking because
- 33:58Speaker 1: one mistake you you're done it is That's that's what's
- 34:02Speaker 1: so what's so special about baking versus like savory And
- 34:06Speaker 1: I'm not knocking the safety. You know, chefs, you know
- 34:09Speaker 1: we love savory food, but definitely when you're baking, it's
- 34:12Speaker 1: a science behind it. And you know, if you make
- 34:15Speaker 1: one mistake, I feel like one teaspoon or tablespoon off
- 34:18Speaker 1: of a cake or a or something like that, you
- 34:20Speaker 1: gotta start all way over, like there is no I
- 34:23Speaker 1: will let me see how I can fix this real quick.
- 34:25Speaker 1: Now you gotta throw it away. And I started all
- 34:27Speaker 1: the way over. And sometimes that's like thirty minutes to
- 34:30Speaker 1: an hour, you know, worth the work that you've just
- 34:32Speaker 1: put yourself behind. So, you know, baking definitely is something
- 34:36Speaker 1: special um for me as well as a lot of people.
- 34:39Speaker 1: I love the science behind it. Well, I'm gonna tell
- 34:41Speaker 1: you this is this is how I started baking. That
- 34:44Speaker 1: was executive producing and co created that Steve Harvey talked
- 34:47Speaker 1: shows Chicargo and Steve Hardy twenty twelve, and Steve Harvey
- 34:50Speaker 1: pranked me into baking. That's how I started, you know,
- 34:54Speaker 1: Chris prank me and said and basically Darren me, I
- 34:57Speaker 1: never baked in my life. In front of a live
- 34:59Speaker 1: study ord, he dared need to bake a cake. Of course,
- 35:02Speaker 1: I baked three cakes and the rest is history. Basically
- 35:05Speaker 1: because I have an app with eighty different desserts called
- 35:09Speaker 1: Perfect Bacon. Uh, I'm a brain ambassador for that. That's
- 35:12Speaker 1: how I started. How did you get started into into baking? Well,
- 35:16Speaker 1: like most people, UM, who you know always says, you know,
- 35:20Speaker 1: my mom is a great cook. You know my mom
- 35:23Speaker 1: really is. Um, she's an amazing coach. He's an amazing woman.
- 35:28Speaker 1: And she was always in the kitchen, you know, having
- 35:31Speaker 1: us try like all these different things. And I have
- 35:34Speaker 1: to say, like our house, especially for like Christmas Eve,
- 35:36Speaker 1: because that's when we had our parties, was the house
- 35:39Speaker 1: to go to because you know, we're not having like
- 35:41Speaker 1: a traditional food. She's doing duck and quail and you
- 35:44Speaker 1: know oyses and lamb. You know that fried chicken exactly.
- 35:51Speaker 1: And for somebody that you know grew up in the
- 35:53Speaker 1: inner city of Birmingham, Alabama. I'm originally from the area
- 35:56Speaker 1: of Petsville from the from them yeah, him from they am.
- 36:02Speaker 1: I have to represent my magic city, Um, but exactly
- 36:07Speaker 1: being from that area, you don't think that, you know,
- 36:09Speaker 1: necessarily these are the things are going to be having.
- 36:11Speaker 1: You know, we were having you know, like kid Lives
- 36:14Speaker 1: and him in Turkey and you know all that black
- 36:16Speaker 1: peas in college and all those things are great and
- 36:18Speaker 1: please don't get in twisted, but you know, she definitely
- 36:21Speaker 1: like opened my eyes, um to this world that's out there.
- 36:25Speaker 1: And I remember us going to um San Antonio if
- 36:27Speaker 1: I want of how works trips and this was I'm
- 36:29Speaker 1: just like I seek like eleven and twelve and this
- 36:31Speaker 1: is my first trying trying s cargo, you know what
- 36:35Speaker 1: it was, you know, and this was her. This was
- 36:38Speaker 1: what she did in our lives is you know, give
- 36:41Speaker 1: us a different type of palette. So watching her in
- 36:44Speaker 1: the kitchen like baking, you know, all these pund kicks
- 36:47Speaker 1: you know, for you spens and you know all this
- 36:49Speaker 1: is just it made me love it and I spell
- 36:51Speaker 1: in love with it then even though most of the
- 36:53Speaker 1: time I just watched her, you know, we like to
- 36:56Speaker 1: read the benefits of the labor We don't want to
- 36:58Speaker 1: actually want to do with the labor um. But she's
- 37:00Speaker 1: definitely what got me into it um in the beginning. Well,
- 37:04Speaker 1: this is awesome, This is awesome talking to you now
- 37:07Speaker 1: that I know you're from the ham Burmham, Alabama. You know,
- 37:13Speaker 1: I do eat chiplins, I do eat black eyed peas.
- 37:16Speaker 1: I put my chilens on white rice. I also eat
- 37:19Speaker 1: this car go. I'm not a duck guy. You know,
- 37:21Speaker 1: I tried it. You know it's it's it's you know,
- 37:24Speaker 1: it's it's a dark side of the meat for me,
- 37:26Speaker 1: and I kind of like it's. Yeah, it's it's very gamy.
- 37:29Speaker 1: It's it's prepared perfectly though. It's really good, but it
- 37:33Speaker 1: is a little bit, you know, a little bit too
- 37:35Speaker 1: fatty for me, so I don't just consume it like
- 37:38Speaker 1: I wouldn't just necessarily pick it from a mini most
- 37:40Speaker 1: of the time, you know, I'll eat it off of
- 37:42Speaker 1: somebody else's please, But you know it terms it's perfectly
- 37:45Speaker 1: really good. You know I can get down with that. Well,
- 37:49Speaker 1: you know that the whole thing about it, that's what
- 37:51Speaker 1: the menu is all about. That's what that's what being
- 37:52Speaker 1: able to serve different people because everybody likes has a
- 37:55Speaker 1: different taste. You know, a lot of people like Chinese food.
- 37:58Speaker 1: A lot of people don't like know a lot of
- 38:00Speaker 1: people don't like sushi. And I eat sushi. I don't
- 38:03Speaker 1: get too too sushi ish. You know it's me. You
- 38:06Speaker 1: don't need this. It's some stuff over that. I will
- 38:09Speaker 1: mess with it now, but you know you don't like
- 38:12Speaker 1: your fist straight out the open, just right. I'm a
- 38:16Speaker 1: California roll guy. I had some temporal shrimp roll your
- 38:20Speaker 1: boy winning. I'm winning. I'm winning. Listen. I I can'tnock
- 38:24Speaker 1: that because that used to be me too. I was like, yeah,
- 38:26Speaker 1: I never really liked the taste of raw fish period,
- 38:30Speaker 1: But like I said, certain places will make it. And
- 38:32Speaker 1: I'd be like, I can rock with that. I can. Yeah,
- 38:35Speaker 1: you know, stick with that temporal. Those crabs, you know,
- 38:38Speaker 1: the invitation crabs, don't be shooting down my taste buds.
- 38:44Speaker 1: Invitation crazy crazy, using a little I was stop talking
- 38:50Speaker 1: to you. I was talking to you. That's what you
- 38:51Speaker 1: have good people that I'm just trying to be old.
- 38:54Speaker 1: I'm opening my heart to you already, said dunk. So
- 38:59Speaker 1: you really kind I told you you chling, he's so country.
- 39:04Speaker 1: I thought he was a big time over you don't
- 39:05Speaker 1: want but I'm country. Yo. It's so funny because people
- 39:09Speaker 1: talk to me and then it's like, well, you don't
- 39:11Speaker 1: really have an excent. I was like, no, I'm not
- 39:13Speaker 1: really until I talked about number one, something I love
- 39:16Speaker 1: and I started talking fast, and that that that thing
- 39:19Speaker 1: in the back of your voice where you just can't
- 39:21Speaker 1: help us say Alabama country and if you just start
- 39:24Speaker 1: and then I'm like, talk to my friends and my
- 39:26Speaker 1: family gonna come back, you know, from seeing them and
- 39:29Speaker 1: my workar was like, I can't even understand you right now.
- 39:31Speaker 1: I don't even I understand. My listener will understand. YouTube.
- 39:34Speaker 1: We're talking to Amber Croom. She's competing in the first
- 39:38Speaker 1: season of the new Food Network show Chop Sweets. Tell
- 39:42Speaker 1: us about that. First of all, tell us about the show,
- 39:45Speaker 1: and second, tell us how you became I guess a
- 39:48Speaker 1: contestant on the show. Okay, oh man. So you know,
- 39:52Speaker 1: Chop Sweets is an amazing endeavor for them because out
- 39:56Speaker 1: of I think the forty four or the forty five
- 39:59Speaker 1: seasons that Chops has been on, I think it started
- 40:02Speaker 1: in like two thousand and nine. You know, that's you know,
- 40:06Speaker 1: eleven plus years of the show has been on. They've
- 40:08Speaker 1: may be done three or four episodes where they feature desserts,
- 40:13Speaker 1: that's it out of And so for them to say, Okay,
- 40:16Speaker 1: you know there's a market out there. These you know,
- 40:18Speaker 1: these talented artists are out there and they need to
- 40:21Speaker 1: be tested, just like the Savory chefs. And they decided
- 40:26Speaker 1: to do this platform. They decided to give us a
- 40:28Speaker 1: chance to kind of shine a little bit. And I'm
- 40:30Speaker 1: grateful for it because, you know, as a chef who
- 40:32Speaker 1: hasn't watched shops and sat there and thought, I know
- 40:35Speaker 1: what I would do. Why do you do that? That's nasty,
- 40:37Speaker 1: I would have you know, but you get there and uh,
- 40:42Speaker 1: hindsight and it's not somebody gonna say that day she's stupid,
- 40:51Speaker 1: but she nervous do that? Oh he left that off
- 40:56Speaker 1: the play. I wouldn't have left that off the play.
- 40:57Speaker 1: How are you going to leave that off? The leaves? Like,
- 40:59Speaker 1: sitting right there there, you could just dissect that thing.
- 41:05Speaker 1: And you know, as a chef, that's like a pinnacle
- 41:08Speaker 1: for you. You know, you really want to get on
- 41:10Speaker 1: that stage and really be you know, tested, and you
- 41:12Speaker 1: want to shine, so you know, to be able to
- 41:15Speaker 1: do it on a pastry platform is is simply amazing.
- 41:19Speaker 1: And I got on the show because um, in two
- 41:22Speaker 1: thousand and sixte I actually did the Holiday Baking Championship UM.
- 41:26Speaker 1: And so I was already like in my my casting
- 41:30Speaker 1: company's pool of like chefs, and so they contacted me
- 41:34Speaker 1: and asked me if I wanted to auditions UM or
- 41:37Speaker 1: like put in my you know, my information and stuff
- 41:39Speaker 1: to actually be considered. And that was like a week
- 41:42Speaker 1: and the next week they called me is like, hey,
- 41:44Speaker 1: can you get to New York in a week? I'm like, oh, okay,
- 41:48Speaker 1: you know I'm not working, but sure. So that process
- 41:53Speaker 1: was so fast, like super super fast, and they're like, okay,
- 41:57Speaker 1: well you know we need you here on on that day.
- 42:00Speaker 1: Can't comment? I was like, yeah, why not? Just part
- 42:05Speaker 1: of you know, they've people have contacted me to be
- 42:09Speaker 1: a contestant on these shows and that's not what I do.
- 42:14Speaker 1: You know, I'm just a fun baker, you know. You know,
- 42:18Speaker 1: you tell me, you know, one of them judges tell
- 42:20Speaker 1: me something my stuff is dry on tape. It's gonna
- 42:23Speaker 1: be a different conversation. You gonna it could be a
- 42:26Speaker 1: different conversation. You know, you know you tell me I
- 42:28Speaker 1: can't all you know I got, I got fans. Everything
- 42:32Speaker 1: I post gets liked. Everything I post goes viral. You
- 42:35Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I can't go on the show.
- 42:37Speaker 1: And somebody I don't even know what we cannot bleep
- 42:40Speaker 1: out the entire episode. We can't. We can't do it.
- 42:44Speaker 1: See see, certain people just can't get on the show
- 42:46Speaker 1: like me. I would like they go who booked him
- 42:49Speaker 1: to be getting executive to do some fire to look
- 42:51Speaker 1: casting agent girl over there crying, I don't know why
- 42:54Speaker 1: we book that dude. He was so nice on the phone.
- 42:57Speaker 1: Well I don't. I don't like heard my failing that
- 43:02Speaker 1: I'll be taking I'll be taking my little desserts to
- 43:04Speaker 1: people that be crying. Who do you believe you bag
- 43:06Speaker 1: for me? And I go to that TV show, sir,
- 43:09Speaker 1: you know your iceing is dry and your cupcake is
- 43:13Speaker 1: dry to uh and they pick it through with the
- 43:17Speaker 1: with the fark. I hate when they do that, when
- 43:18Speaker 1: they when they pull it like like they surgically like
- 43:21Speaker 1: my stuff ain't ain't ain't touchable no more be pulling
- 43:24Speaker 1: it up that your mama mama. You know you automatically
- 43:30Speaker 1: want to go back. And but I had this. I
- 43:33Speaker 1: had to call my mom. I was like, you know,
- 43:35Speaker 1: I know you're gonna watch this show and your southern mom,
- 43:38Speaker 1: So I want to apologize in advance for my mouth.
- 43:41Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't, I don't. I just want
- 43:43Speaker 1: you to know I'm sorry right right when. You're the
- 43:48Speaker 1: thing about it this day. First of all, I know
- 43:50Speaker 1: while you're on the show, you got a great personality.
- 43:52Speaker 1: And secondly, y'all you know I want you to be
- 43:54Speaker 1: a friend of the show because I want to follow you.
- 43:57Speaker 1: This is just one step. I always tell people, you know,
- 43:59Speaker 1: a lot of people what they get old TV, Oh
- 44:01Speaker 1: this is my moment. Who I'm gonna be discovered and
- 44:03Speaker 1: be famous? Well, yes, and though you know these are
- 44:07Speaker 1: the steps, like you're going up a ladder, you know
- 44:09Speaker 1: you're gonna you just want to keep climbing and climbing.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Nobody knows what that top step is, you know, because
- 44:13Speaker 1: you always here a billionaires, they want to make more billions.
- 44:16Speaker 1: So that means everybody's goal. Keith moving. Now, if you
- 44:19Speaker 1: get a point like Pat mahomes Patrick mahone, he wants
- 44:22Speaker 1: super Bowl you want. You want the super Bowl. You
- 44:24Speaker 1: know already he wants six, you want seven. So your
- 44:27Speaker 1: goal is gonna always keep moving forward and on your
- 44:31Speaker 1: next step. I want to talk about some of those
- 44:32Speaker 1: steps they happened when in the past they're a good step.
- 44:36Speaker 1: They got you to be this very personable girl from
- 44:39Speaker 1: the Ham that you dug scaRNA go oh, you know,
- 44:44Speaker 1: real eggs, all that good stuff all in the city
- 44:47Speaker 1: of Birmingham, the Ham Magic saying we'll be back more
- 44:50Speaker 1: with the executive pace yourself who started the New Food
- 44:53Speaker 1: Network show Chop Sweets. We'll be right back with more
- 44:57Speaker 1: from March McDonald the money making conversations. Touch that down.
- 45:02Speaker 1: I just Rashan McDonald and you're listening to money making
- 45:04Speaker 1: conversations on the phone today is a good friend of mine.
- 45:07Speaker 1: I'm gonna calling my friend. We had one good interview.
- 45:09Speaker 1: We've been laughing and you know, doing mama jokes, all
- 45:13Speaker 1: kind of good stuff on this phone and we talked
- 45:15Speaker 1: about pastries and appearance on the New Food Network show
- 45:19Speaker 1: Chop Sweets. Please welcome back to the call Amber Chrome Amber. Now,
- 45:25Speaker 1: I'm I you know, early in my stand up comedy career,
- 45:29Speaker 1: one of the things that I did on the regular basis,
- 45:32Speaker 1: was performed on cruise lines. I performed on the Royal
- 45:35Speaker 1: Caribean Cruise Line, performed on the Norwegian Cruise Line. And
- 45:39Speaker 1: one of the things I loved was food, food, food,
- 45:43Speaker 1: and one of the beauties was the pastries that they
- 45:46Speaker 1: gave out there. Now you performed on a six star
- 45:48Speaker 1: cruise line called the Silver Sea in twenty level. How
- 45:52Speaker 1: did that help your pastry career? Oh? Man, um that
- 45:57Speaker 1: that helped me in so many ways that it's not
- 46:01Speaker 1: necessarily just pastry, but just personally on the pastry side
- 46:04Speaker 1: of it. You know, this this particular cruise line. You
- 46:08Speaker 1: know why I chose it is because it went around
- 46:11Speaker 1: the world. It went literally, it literally went around the
- 46:14Speaker 1: entire world. And you know, I remember when I started
- 46:18Speaker 1: in this industry, I sat down and I say, Okay,
- 46:21Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this dream board thing. You know, I'm
- 46:24Speaker 1: just gonna do it. And I just said there, I said, okay, well,
- 46:26Speaker 1: what in your wildest dreams, if money were never an option,
- 46:30Speaker 1: if obstacles were never in your way, what would you
- 46:33Speaker 1: want to go? What would you want to do? When
- 46:34Speaker 1: I just created this board and in my time with
- 46:39Speaker 1: Silver Sea, I literally crossed off every single place I
- 46:44Speaker 1: wanted to visit in the world. And yeah, it's like
- 46:48Speaker 1: it just when I look back at it, it was
- 46:50Speaker 1: just it was mind blowing. Um to be able to
- 46:53Speaker 1: have this opportunity again. This little girlfriends, his real little
- 46:58Speaker 1: girlfriends is real. Is you know, sitting in the Mediterranean, see,
- 47:02Speaker 1: you know, making pastries, just you know, sitting and I'll
- 47:05Speaker 1: show you making pastries. And you know, the cruise line
- 47:08Speaker 1: will test you because you know every night, like you
- 47:12Speaker 1: you know, you generally work six months. Um, when you're American,
- 47:14Speaker 1: they only give you like six four to six months
- 47:16Speaker 1: of contracts. Everybody else is like eight to nine. But
- 47:19Speaker 1: if this is an everyday thing, you know, and everyone's like,
- 47:21Speaker 1: well you didn't have a day off, Like no, honey,
- 47:23Speaker 1: Like we worked every single day, you know for six
- 47:27Speaker 1: for six months, you know, and I was able because
- 47:31Speaker 1: the line I was on, I mean change daily. So
- 47:36Speaker 1: every day I was making a different type of cuisine pastrie.
- 47:40Speaker 1: So I'm learning how to make Indian, I'm learning how
- 47:42Speaker 1: to make you know, Asian influence. I'm learning English, I'm
- 47:45Speaker 1: learning Irish, I'm learning all these different messes and all
- 47:49Speaker 1: these different types of pastries. That now when I make things,
- 47:53Speaker 1: I have a box support from where I'm not, you know,
- 47:55Speaker 1: one dimensional in my creations. And not just that. It
- 47:59Speaker 1: teaches you time to management. It teaches you, you know,
- 48:01Speaker 1: how to make quantity, but not just quantity, but actually
- 48:04Speaker 1: making quality um things. And you know it's it texts
- 48:08Speaker 1: you that whole no crying in the kitchen, um, yeah,
- 48:11Speaker 1: I mean I cried in the cool look a few
- 48:13Speaker 1: times when it took when my French step is yelling
- 48:20Speaker 1: at me because I didn't know how to make a
- 48:22Speaker 1: proper crepe. And I remember one day they just had
- 48:24Speaker 1: me standing at you know, this eight ten top burner
- 48:29Speaker 1: with ten pans where I'm making crepes for like five
- 48:32Speaker 1: hours boom boom boom, like you know, and then I
- 48:35Speaker 1: got amazing at it and now I'm, you know, a
- 48:37Speaker 1: great crepe maker. But you know, in that environment, you're
- 48:41Speaker 1: either gonna thrive or you're gonna fail. And that's your choice.
- 48:45Speaker 1: You know, that's your choice, and to how you're gonna
- 48:48Speaker 1: take this experience. It's not just about being able to
- 48:51Speaker 1: travel the world. This place tested who I was and
- 48:54Speaker 1: built me, you know, to where a lot of times
- 48:57Speaker 1: I look in the kitchen now and you know a
- 48:59Speaker 1: lot of people four are so sensitive and so soft
- 49:02Speaker 1: because you gotta work like nine hours. I'm like, boo,
- 49:04Speaker 1: I was sixteen hours in the kitchen. Come on, let's go,
- 49:07Speaker 1: let's go. You know you're younger than me. Let's go,
- 49:08Speaker 1: let's go, let's get it. And I feel like that
- 49:11Speaker 1: being in that environment actually fostered that inside of me.
- 49:15Speaker 1: It fostered my work ethic, it fostered, you know, my creativity.
- 49:20Speaker 1: And then on you know, on top of all that,
- 49:22Speaker 1: I'm getting east An amazing foods, you know places and
- 49:26Speaker 1: get the authentic cuisine of these places, and it was amazing. Well,
- 49:32Speaker 1: you know, you've told me a couple of stories here, Okay,
- 49:34Speaker 1: you told me about your mom teaching you how to
- 49:37Speaker 1: do just watching her because you really watched and had
- 49:40Speaker 1: this amazing option to view her. Just having a diverse
- 49:45Speaker 1: kitchen menu. And then we talked about the Silver City
- 49:49Speaker 1: in twenty eleven. Where did the education and the training
- 49:52Speaker 1: come from. Well, originally I went to school in New Orleans.
- 49:56Speaker 1: I went to the University of New Orleans and I
- 49:58Speaker 1: did enable arcas textra and marine engineering. So I was
- 50:02Speaker 1: on a totally and I was on a totally different
- 50:06Speaker 1: path than what I'm on now. And um, when her
- 50:10Speaker 1: Kane Katrina happened, I was there, but I wasn't one
- 50:12Speaker 1: of the people that actually evacuated. So I was there
- 50:16Speaker 1: for four to five days during that entire old deal,
- 50:18Speaker 1: like everything we saw and TV, that was when we
- 50:20Speaker 1: were dealing with And I remember, um getting to Houston
- 50:26Speaker 1: and stay in the night and like sitting on the
- 50:28Speaker 1: edge of my bed and just trying to figure out
- 50:30Speaker 1: what happened, what just happened. And I got to Alabama,
- 50:34Speaker 1: and um, nothing seemed right, and I really didn't know
- 50:38Speaker 1: what to do. And I knew I didn't want to
- 50:39Speaker 1: go back to New Orleans. I didn't, you know, want
- 50:41Speaker 1: to pursue his career anymore. Um, while it was you know,
- 50:45Speaker 1: lucrative and you know, I'm still creating, it wasn't making
- 50:49Speaker 1: me happy. And I saw a lot of sadness. I
- 50:53Speaker 1: saw a lot of death that happened, you know, during Katrina,
- 50:56Speaker 1: and I just realized that, you know, life was too
- 50:59Speaker 1: short to not be doing what you love. And you know,
- 51:02Speaker 1: I had to sit there and say, what do I love?
- 51:04Speaker 1: What can I do every day and not get paid
- 51:06Speaker 1: for it? And I was like, well, I love eating
- 51:08Speaker 1: and I love paigetries and I want to pursue this.
- 51:11Speaker 1: So I actually went to culinary school in Birmingham and
- 51:14Speaker 1: Obama time at the colon Ard and that is where
- 51:18Speaker 1: I got like my former education and that's where it
- 51:21Speaker 1: all really started for me. In two thousand and ten.
- 51:24Speaker 1: Good well, it's uh, it's led to you are opening
- 51:27Speaker 1: your own business called and for desserts. That's a cool day.
- 51:31Speaker 1: And for desserts and for dessert yeah, you know every
- 51:34Speaker 1: every way wages and for dessert you like you know
- 51:37Speaker 1: they I was asking that what do you want for dessert?
- 51:40Speaker 1: You know? You know it's funny. That's exactly where that
- 51:43Speaker 1: came from. That's exactly where it came wrong. I was
- 51:45Speaker 1: on brain Songe with my friend one day. We were
- 51:47Speaker 1: in the basement um of my church that I was
- 51:50Speaker 1: going to at the time, and um, I'm just like,
- 51:53Speaker 1: you know what, I really want to open my own
- 51:54Speaker 1: dessert restaurant. I don't want just sing on big ground,
- 51:57Speaker 1: want you know, to be able to have like the
- 51:59Speaker 1: things that I up and my favorite with your appetizers
- 52:01Speaker 1: because I love appetizers. I love a good app I
- 52:03Speaker 1: really do. I could just eat like six seven apps
- 52:05Speaker 1: and you know call it a day and then really
- 52:08Speaker 1: good dessert and really good drinking, really great ambi hont
- 52:11Speaker 1: and so what are you CAUs like, I don't know,
- 52:13Speaker 1: you know, we started throwing it up. It's like, you
- 52:16Speaker 1: know when you go in there like one for dessert,
- 52:17Speaker 1: you haven't right there? Cool. Now here's the thing you've
- 52:22Speaker 1: set me up for the show because you've shown me
- 52:25Speaker 1: that you know, you have this little southern background. You know,
- 52:28Speaker 1: your mom kind of set the stage before you to
- 52:30Speaker 1: be very open mind. And then you went on this
- 52:32Speaker 1: cruise line and you had had all these different styles,
- 52:36Speaker 1: all the different uh you know, Indian, Chinese, all these
- 52:40Speaker 1: different dessert Now you're on the dessert show that you're that.
- 52:42Speaker 1: Food Network has launched a competition show called Chop Sweets.
- 52:47Speaker 1: Did it help you? Did your background help you this?
- 52:49Speaker 1: This this, especially the cruise line opportunity to help you
- 52:52Speaker 1: and being able to provide I noticed at the first
- 52:55Speaker 1: competition show. But it is this It is kind of
- 52:57Speaker 1: like the d did what they say they the top
- 53:01Speaker 1: of the line, chop chopping the top of the line.
- 53:04Speaker 1: You know they're coming in with the dog like don't
- 53:06Speaker 1: don't don't you know you walk in there. You know
- 53:10Speaker 1: they got they suited up. They know that they know
- 53:12Speaker 1: they this just the Oscar of the Emmy Award. When
- 53:15Speaker 1: you chopped right here, were you intimidating it all? And
- 53:19Speaker 1: were you intimidated it all? Were you just ready? You know,
- 53:22Speaker 1: you're ready to get fired up about this? You know, honestly,
- 53:26Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be intimidated, but you know,
- 53:28Speaker 1: I had to have the coming Jesus meeting with myself
- 53:30Speaker 1: before it started, and I was like, you, you know
- 53:34Speaker 1: what I mean, You've been through so much. You you've
- 53:36Speaker 1: been tested, you've been tried. This ain't nothing. You got this.
- 53:39Speaker 1: Either you're gonna win, you're gonna lose one or Two's
- 53:41Speaker 1: only one, you know what I mean. And whatever you're
- 53:44Speaker 1: gonna do, go out there and leave it on the floor,
- 53:46Speaker 1: because those couple of shows can be really nerve wracking.
- 53:49Speaker 1: You know, the way they do it, you gotta do it.
- 53:51Speaker 1: Separate interviews and repeat what you already. You got like
- 53:55Speaker 1: thirty people just looking at you, and that's all they're
- 53:58Speaker 1: paid to do is just stand there and look at you.
- 54:01Speaker 1: Like that in itself is like it it's hard, and
- 54:04Speaker 1: got the cameras and you know, certain places you can't walk,
- 54:07Speaker 1: you know, like you know, and then they want you to,
- 54:09Speaker 1: you know, actually engage with your people. Were you trying
- 54:11Speaker 1: to focus? But you know, I I was prepared for it.
- 54:15Speaker 1: I was when I lose you know, everything that I've
- 54:18Speaker 1: done in my career prepare me for that moment. It
- 54:22Speaker 1: really did, you know, cruise ship teaching how to manage
- 54:25Speaker 1: my time, you know, checking the clock, making sure I'm
- 54:27Speaker 1: you know, I'm on point. It taught me how to
- 54:29Speaker 1: you know, actually do my menu. You know, Okay, I
- 54:32Speaker 1: can do this, is this while I'm doing that. I'm
- 54:34Speaker 1: gonna do that. While I'm doing that. I'm only that,
- 54:35Speaker 1: you know, you're multitasking. Um. And then it also the
- 54:40Speaker 1: box and you're a good talker to so that really helps.
- 54:43Speaker 1: You know, you got personnelit that really helps. So what's
- 54:45Speaker 1: next for you, Amber Croom? Um? You know, honestly, my
- 54:50Speaker 1: next step after opening my place is I want to
- 54:53Speaker 1: do my own show. I'm not going to speak too
- 54:55Speaker 1: much on it, like you know, you know, you're talking
- 54:59Speaker 1: of the one of the biggest producers and television Rashan McDonald.
- 55:02Speaker 1: And that's why we're friend. That's why we're friends. What
- 55:08Speaker 1: are you based in the ham or use someplace of
- 55:10Speaker 1: the hand with where you came from. Um, that's where
- 55:13Speaker 1: I'm from. But I'm currently living in Baltimore, Maryland, the
- 55:16Speaker 1: East Coast. Okay, well you know I'm up there alive,
- 55:18Speaker 1: being DC. So I'm coming to the DC next month.
- 55:21Speaker 1: This morning, fact, I got us the meeting tot so
- 55:23Speaker 1: maybe we can coordinate some things and and and because
- 55:26Speaker 1: some things that you ran and that you talked about,
- 55:29Speaker 1: I thought this would be a great television idea. So
- 55:31Speaker 1: I like to like to connect that in your head
- 55:34Speaker 1: because of the fact that you are a very very
- 55:37Speaker 1: talented artists. Artists as they say. I always tell people
- 55:41Speaker 1: that you know that food and it's just art that
- 55:45Speaker 1: you eat, that's all. It's just odd that you look
- 55:47Speaker 1: at that's so pretty. Then you eat it, you know, yeah, exactly,
- 55:52Speaker 1: you just eat it. And so so you you you
- 55:54Speaker 1: you you. You can't tell us how it goes. When
- 55:57Speaker 1: is this? When does the competition start? When when is
- 55:59Speaker 1: this starts? When is the show airrors? And um, the
- 56:02Speaker 1: first episode air is February third at timpm, but my
- 56:05Speaker 1: episode airs February tenth, tympm Eastern Standard time. Because you know,
- 56:09Speaker 1: that's the one I want. The February tenth one. Yeah,
- 56:12Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people out there I
- 56:13Speaker 1: should be promoting, but I'm only going to promote you
- 56:15Speaker 1: because you're my friend. You're from the Ham, You're not
- 56:18Speaker 1: living in Baltimore. You know, You've You've cruised the world.
- 56:21Speaker 1: You you you you survive Haricane. Katrina went to my
- 56:26Speaker 1: sister city, Houston. That's why I'm from Houston. So I
- 56:28Speaker 1: felt kind of a little a little something about you
- 56:30Speaker 1: when you said you was in Houston feeling bad on
- 56:32Speaker 1: the edge of the bed. Wow, Okay, Houston is not
- 56:35Speaker 1: that bad. But I realized that it was challenges that
- 56:38Speaker 1: you're facing like make you. They shape you and make
- 56:41Speaker 1: you who the special person that you are. More important,
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- 58:30Speaker 1: a two time Billboard forty Under forty power player. In
- 58:34Speaker 1: his career, he has overseen the development of many notable
- 58:37Speaker 1: artists and brands, including Anita Baker, Emily Keene, Corey, Henry Luke,
- 58:43Speaker 1: James Michelle, Willim's Miguel Cooling, the Game, Look craz Leon Thomas,
- 58:49Speaker 1: festivals like Outside Lands Music Festival, and many more. He's
- 58:53Speaker 1: an artist manager, founder of Culture Collective and Culture Collective Records.
- 58:59Speaker 1: Please welcome back to Money Making Conversations, My man, Jonathan A.
- 59:02Speaker 1: Zool Hey, how are you doing? Hey man, it's the
- 59:07Speaker 1: the intra only gets bigger every time you come on
- 59:09Speaker 1: the show. Appreciate I appreciate the invite to be back
- 59:15Speaker 1: on the show speaking with you. Well, you know the
- 59:17Speaker 1: great thing about watching your brand and and it's all
- 59:21Speaker 1: about reinventing yourself. You know, you're doing this, this this process,
- 59:24Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you see an opportunity.
- 59:26Speaker 1: But there's always a possibility that ship may not work.
- 59:30Speaker 1: In the process of how you're building your brand and
- 59:32Speaker 1: leading talent but also recognizing that you are a brand
- 59:35Speaker 1: and a talent to how do you separate the difference?
- 59:40Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. I mean I've always considered myself
- 59:43Speaker 1: personally a brand, right, and and you know, people ask
- 59:47Speaker 1: me what do you do and I usually say, well,
- 59:49Speaker 1: I'm a longer, very hard right, I'm an artist manager
- 59:53Speaker 1: and I apply that market that approached the marketing as
- 59:56Speaker 1: raised to my my ideals with my clients, but also
- 59:58Speaker 1: the relates to myself as a brand. And I used
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: to always think about myself like a blank cereal by
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: walking down of a grocery store. You know, what are
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: the what are the things, what are the images of colors,
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: what's on the side of the packaging that is going
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: to make what to say? I want to I want
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: to buy that, I want to do business with that person?
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: And um, you know, if you got one of the
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: elements to make up Jonathan, and what are the elements
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: to make up Culture Collective. And I think about that
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: packaging and the thing that we want to apply to it,
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: and that's all marketing and all marketing, that's all brand development, um.
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: And we applied that. We played that same to that
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: same approach to working with our clients as well as ourselves. Well,
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: you know the good thing about I know a lot
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: of your clients. And just a little side note, Anita
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: Baker giving to you the best that I got. My
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: wife now got married on that song. It was our
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: song at our wedding. So you know, I always wanted
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: to tell the needs whatever I meet. I'm a Hugson.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: There's a two years later we steered together, Nita and
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: your song, your song help does that. And so but
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: you know, grab thank you really are. I appreciate what
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: you're doing. Let's let's let's define where UH from one
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: of my research UH you founded Culture Collective in twent
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: and eighteen. Importance of Culture Collective regards to urban artists
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: make up less than one percent of the client base
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: at stations UH top firms nationwide. So just a drive
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: to understand that that urban artists are underrepresented in the
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: field that they may dominate and so that's what the
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: basis of your development, correct, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: it's somebody that's out of the top of major organizations
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: and had an opportunity to look down at you know what,
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: what's what's coming up next with what's having a cultural impact,
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: but then also who's working on it. I saw this
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: massive lack of diversity and inclusion um within the corporate
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: ranks of these bigger companies um. And then in addition
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: to that, and when you look at the artists that
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: are that are the trend setters and warning the payment
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: in today's generation, and you know, they look like us,
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: right and people that are representing them do not that
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: that it's it's necessarily a race thing, but ultimately the
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: CULTI perspective, you want to be able to look across
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: the table and know that you're that you're you're you know,
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: somebody really connects with what you're doing. So I started
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: Culture Collective with that mind step of permission statement, where
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: diversity inclusion is how we think about who we work
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: with and how we hire. My goal is to really
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: really have a well represented set of team members that
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: can fit with our clients and come up with the
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: concerts an idea to build their career and it's a
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: birth the culture collective. Uh. And you know, I'm having
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It's been almost a year as
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: you last spoke. I joke that we still have a
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: new car smell, you know, right, So we're in but
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: we're you know, we're having We're having a lot of
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: fun and and being entrepreneurs, we get an opportunity to
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: look at opportunity spaces that, um, that need to be
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: filled and within that. We have some clients that were
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: in between record labels. Uh, they didn't have partners to
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: put out music. But they have very very force and
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: careers and touring and other other aspects of what they
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: were doing, but they didn't have a partner without music.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: And I started to look at why why can't we
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: put out that music? You know, what are the various
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: entries of us putting out that music? Um and UM,
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: you know, we started talking collective records with that mind
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: and we we we partnered with in Groups, which is
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: a universal company to help make sure that our artist
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: music is available across all digital service providers, and we
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: were closely with their team on the marketing promotion of
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: those artists and Luke James, a long time client, is
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: the first artist to be released through this new venture. UM.
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: His new album, To Feel Loved was released on January
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: thirty one. UM To Feel Loved Extuiing was released on
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: January thirty one. And uh, we not only are the
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: managers fools, but now we're probably the record label foods. Well.
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: You know the interesting part of why I maintain a
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: relationship with you because of the visionary relationship that I
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: feel that you're bringing to the industry. When you're talking
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: about the limited recognition of you know, urban talent, the
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: African American town, of the talent of color, how we participate,
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: but we seem to be bottled in you know. I know.
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: I know that for a fact because I executive produced
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: and create co created The Steve hard Mornin Show and
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: I was on there from two thousands. So I know
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: how the music industry can industry can play itself out.
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: And what I'm what I'm getting at, it's like, you know,
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: we always get underrepresented. For instance, we have June is
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: our Black music month. You know, June is Black music month. Okay,
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: then you look at the music month for everybody else.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: You have the Grammys, you have American Music Award, Yeah,
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: bill Boards, you know how our radio we know, even
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: talking about Carting Western and then BT Music Award is
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: basically our watcher when we should have more, you know
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: we you know, that's the area that I really want
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: to start talking to you about. How can we get
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: more visual representation in award shows on television because that
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: is necessary. We have to have more than just be
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: two awards. And my mistaken when I say at Jonathan,
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: I agree, and I think it's interesting. It's interesting point
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: because they think that part of that more is our
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: culture in in brands coming to life, UM in more
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: ways than just you know, our worship the BET Awards,
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: I mean, one of the most cognitive awards shows ever. UM,
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: you know, the Hip Hop Awards as well, and when
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: we look at the Grammys and Amis and all these
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: other shows, it's important for us to be able to
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: have a presence within those environments to UM and not
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: be underrepresenting. And I think part of that is making
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: sure that we do have people that represent our culture
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: within the executive rings of these companies so they could
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: hire the right folks and be in the right room
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: for these conversations to come to life and this is
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: about business. Because one of the big things about the
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: Grammars this year was diversity, and uh he did. He
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: made a big deal on stage doing his speech about diversity. Now,
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: explain to people why was it important to have diversity
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: in music behind, you know, behind the moments, behind the talent.
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, I'm gonna go back to
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: last graining because it's just something that was that was
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: that was well talked about, not not this past graend.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: It's not two thousand in betweenty, but two thousand nine,
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: and there was Amazetown. There was a Motown tribute. A
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: lot of people had a lot to say about, and
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: most of that was around the fact that we want
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: well represented within that tribute. Okay, and I think that
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: sometimes that can happen if we don't have the right
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: people in the rooms to make sure that our culture
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: is really really represented. The wrong people singing Motown hits right,
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: the wrong just because you're trying to get a hit.
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: Don't just throw somebody out there singing something that there's
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: not There's not that there shouldn't be singing it correct Yeah,
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: or or or has no has no real time, has
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: no real Tide, to the to the to the history
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: of Motown. So you know, I think, um, you know,
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: I think it's it's super important at the end of
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: the day. And and you know, creating Culture Collective it's
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: just my way of helping to break that cycle UM
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: and really developed the next executive. And we focus a
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: lot around hiring young talent and hiring interns and mentoring
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: the folks. I always say that the ways, the ways
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: into the world of Jonathan Azoo and Culture Collectives are
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: as high touch of negotiating um deals, uh, partnering on
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: on deal, on doubts, you just inspiring each other. Well,
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: you know, it's really it's so special when I talk
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: to Jonathan Jonathan and the fact that you know, I
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: am meeting and talking to so many minds like you
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: you know, whether it's a Charles Kane and Macrow. Now
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: he's starting to managing the division of his company and
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: you know your visionary and I know that this year
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: we're all going to meet in the room because because
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: it's it's it's you know, you have to talk to
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: this conversation even with Byron Allen is doing you know,
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: you know he's talking about you know, it's a. It's
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: a group of people make a decision for everybody. Don't
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: look like everybody and so and I'm not trying to
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: turn this call into a war path call, but it's
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: an information call about the fact that if you really
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: want to be successful in any business, you have to
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: be allowed to participate. And so that's what you're trying
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: to get and that's what you're saying and starting the
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: management firm that you have and what you've done all
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: your life. Correct. Yeah, you know recently on Martin the
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: King day, I got together, um about twenty in the
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: last minute thing. You know, I was supposed to be
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: traveling on that day. We thought that was actually be
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. No one having a shot out of
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: an email about thirty or so both within my network. Um, um,
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: you know, senior level executives in the company are down
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: to two interns and said, you know, I want to
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: I want to cheat everybody in dinner and let's get
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: in the room, closed the door and let's have a
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: conversation how we can lift ourselves, right, um, and open conversation.
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: And it was a beautiful thing. And it's something that
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: need to happen or not. Just so Himmel Kingdad. It
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: needs to happen every single day, uh, for us to
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: be able to share with each other and in tight
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: guidance knowledge that we have in the struggles of how
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: we lift ourselves with an entertainment. Often times, you know,
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: one of the things that came out in that in
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: that conversation when people are like, well, it's not just
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: in my head. You know, uh, this other, this other,
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: you know, leading leading voyts in that spaces is creating
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: the same challenges. So I'm not crazy, right, because when
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: we receive in the environments and you're the only one
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: of color, you also to get side your head to
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: think that it's just me right cool. We're talking to
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: John A. Zoo. He's the founder of a culture collective
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: started in twent and nineteen and guess what he's rolling
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: with partnerships he's created with in Grooves. We'll be back
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: with more on money making conversation. This is awesome again.
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: Collective minds, collective thoughts generate success. We'll be right back
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: with more from Marsa McDonald and money making conversations. Don't
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: touch that down. Just for Sean McDonald and you're listening
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: to money making conversation. I'm talking to Jonathan Azoo. Uh.
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: He founded UH Culture Collective eighteen and right now I
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: want to talk about the current artist roster that includes
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: Emily King, Luke James, Leon Thomas and my favorite person
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: and good friend, Michelle Weaves. Talk about your roster and
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: why are those particular people on your roster? Uh? You know,
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: and for me, I got into this business because I
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: have a passion for it, and um, I was able
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: to take a passion her into profession and include the
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: arts that I work with. I'm I'm fan. I'm a
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: fan everyone I've ever worked with in my career. I've
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: been a fan of. I've never once worked with somebody
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: that I was like, right working on this, I know
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: you're not into it, right, I'm passionately, passionately a fan
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: in each one of those artists that you mentioned, um
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: are I've always been on my playlist, right, So it's exciting.
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: It's excited to be to be working with him, and
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: it's exciting experience growth and you know, as you know
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and successful business executive yourself, growth is a
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: is A is A is a powerful world word. Um,
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: And you know, we develop a lot of really great
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: blue prints and road maps to help to help help
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: help growth, right, And that's from the bottom line at
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: that point. That's from an audience ree standpoint, that's from
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: a streaming standpoint, from the ticket sales standpoint. Uh. And
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: each one of those artists had great growth to their
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: their their careers working with us. Well, it's really important
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: that when I'm looking at you, when I when I
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: introduce you, we're just talking about the brands that you've seen,
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: overseen the development. I need a banker, Emily King in,
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: Luke James and share with Miguel cooling the game look crazy.
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: That's my man right there. So that's that's gospel gospel
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: as Miguel, that's hip hop. Coles in the Gang. You know,
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: there's R and B. I need the Banker, that's social
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: all and B. You know. Okay, that's that's a love
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: of fair music. That means your playlist is like you're
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: grooving and you're popping and then you're praising the Lord. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Um.
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: You know it's again, it's it's so food in some
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: form of fashion, right, And it's really really important that.
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: So what do you see the direction of music like
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: I was. I was at NAPTY that's a national associat
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: Television program and program executives, and podcasts was just the
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: rage you know, we know streaming out there came out
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: and explode it, and uh now podcast is the rage
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: of not just the audio version of but the video
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: version of podcasts. Next level that you'll see that more
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: and more being being spoken about because they realized the
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: generation really don't care about screen on the wall here.
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: Don't they care about what's in their hands, and right
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: now what's their hand is things they're willing to download,
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: willing to play, willing to care with them. We're just
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: the future of music in that in that particular era
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: of that particular space or does it stay the same Yeah,
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: I think you know. And then just to just to
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: build on what you're saying, they wanted when we wanted
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: wherever they are right So, if I want to to
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: do a podcast, I don't. I don't want to to
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: to schedule it as I want to if I'm sitting
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: on the bus on the way home, like full look
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: on my phone, whether it be audio or visual, at
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: that time, that's the time that they wanted. And it's
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: almost like, you know, music music, and it's in any
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: in stream music really was the leader in that behavior
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: that adopts to that behavior. You know, you know, what
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: I want, what I want when I want UM, And
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: now you've seen to start that the later through other
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: forms of media. Um, as far as you know, you
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: music and streaming is obviously beginning to have aggressive growth.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: When it first handing take and tip to pouition. Um.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of different companies trying
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: to figure out streaming, and I always felt that once
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: it was all said and done, there would be a
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: handful left, maybe a few. It was were proven that
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: to be the case between Amazon, iTunes and Spotify, and
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: now we kind of have the three, the big three
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: for the most part. Um. There's a couple of other
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: small ow one within that that the step fourth and
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: to the sixth positions. But ultimately this is how people
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: consume music. And now you're starting to see you know,
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: as uh, you know, as as as as older older
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: audience just get older and younger artists start to come
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: into the consumption mix, streaming won't only get bigger and bigger,
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: you know, it's really look at you're tied to festivals,
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: are you tied to festival as a person who's a
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: blast talent or as a producer. So I, after many
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: years working in the radio myself, I just went over
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: to a company called super Fly, which was which was
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: a group of of of guys that graduated Jewlian that
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: come up with the concept of putting a large scale
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: music festival together in the United States. That was built
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: off of the Glastonberry So what would happens when you
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: duty dropped sixty seventy eight thousand people into a field
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: and you build multiple stages and multiple experiences within that
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: environment and live live on that property for that site
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: for for three to four days. And that was the
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: birth of Bonaroo And I went into work with the
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: team that actually put that festival together. I wasn't on
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: the talent buying side, that was more on the operational side,
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: but all aspects of the festival fall underneath operations, so
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: we had a very very good preview of of of
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: of talent and who's coming up. One of the funner
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: things that I do around my house is I have
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: all the old posters from all the shows that we produced,
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: and you know, you know, you know, you know, billing
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: for for a show or the fight of like who's
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: at the top of the poster, Who's at the bottom
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: of the poster? Right, um, and I just need to
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: look at the bottom of the poster some of these
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: previous years and looking at the artists that are down
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: there that have now, you know, a ride to the
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: top of the top list. Yeah, like Miguel way back. Yeah,
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: say wow, I think Drake about to break his record
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: or something on airplay or something like that. It's really
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: amazing money. When when? When? When the first tour I
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: did was was Miguel uh Chip remember of the year?
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: But Miguel was direct support to Drake, right, So drink
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: of the headline? It was it was would you like
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: a tour? Right? Drink the headline? And began opened in future?
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: Was the was the was the first act? Oh my god,
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: well knows that's the beauty of of Sining the beginning
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: and watched it come to the end and watch the
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: path of growth and you go, you know, because you know,
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: everybody has that hustle, that hustle, that hustle, and you
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: like I met nim Miguel because its side of the
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: l A when Steve and I was doing local radio
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: hip hop and R and B. When he was when
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: he was when he when he was trying to find
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: his bars, getting his music out there. And I was
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: looking at him now and go, wow, it's been that
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: many years and he's still got the passion to win.
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: He still has the passion to say, I'm gonna be
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: number one, I'm gonna be successful. That's a drive when
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: you when you manage talent. I always tell people, like,
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: right now, manage that Steven A. Smith. You know, for
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: many years people have known me to Twitter. Actually sixteen
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: or twenty years I managed Steve Harvey and built his
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: brand to the Media Media International media brand. But it's
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: a lot of work when you manage talent. A lot
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: of people don't understand that. Talk about your version or
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: your skills, or are the things that you put in
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: place so you can manage the different talent that you have. Yeah,
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: I think for me, you know, I'm an interesting intersection
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: because I spent many years in media. You know, you
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: have essentially doing label relations um and developing interesting partnerships
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: for CBS Radio corporately. So we had a hundred any
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: radio stations, fifty program directors, and then I leave that world.
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: I go into the life of festival. Business with festivals
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: were just really starting to take off in the United States. Right,
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: We're pioneers in that space, and now you see a
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: lot of festivals out there, but we were the first
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: to be there and then to jump over and help
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: help to run Red Light, which you know eventually became
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: one of the biggest management companies in the world. You know,
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: I had this, like am I seeing that this is
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: an interesting intersection where I have the ability to be
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: able to go in there and work with artists and
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: when things come up absolutely to their career on one
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: phone call away from you know, you know, figuring something
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: out in the life of that in the media space,
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: technology space, or the managers. I've been around there. I've
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: been always places. So one of the things that I
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: always try to be stone upon the young executives that
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: work on my team and let's get you as diversify
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: it as possible, right in your skill set, in your
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: ability to be able to um speak from a strong
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: standpoint of various topics of business because you have experience
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: within those worlds. And you mentioned it, you said, I
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: hear you radio. You know red Light you talk about management,
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: which means you see contracts, which means you you're dealing
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: with decision making situations. When you talk about the festivals,
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: you talk about the operational end. You know that those
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: those things like really help you out. I'm say, calm writer,
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: just myself. I'm the stand up comments. I understand talent
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: to go, I managed shows, I produce shows. So when
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: I walk in the room, there's a lot of information
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: that I can absorb rapidly and make decisions associated with it.
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: And that's all you're saying to young people as they
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: come into are being mentored by you. The more you know,
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: the more diversified your pality is for information that you
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: zor through experience. That's how you have longevity in this
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: business and respect in this business. Correct, Jonathan, that's absolutely right.
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: You know that's absolutely right. And in respected the big
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: thing I mean you want to you know, conducting character
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: and respect. Ultimately, that's all businesses, but especially within entertainment,
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: especially as a minority with entertainment, you want to make
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: sure you preserve that in the best way possible. So
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: conducting yourself in the most positive, upbeat, respected, professional manner possible,
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: you could do nothing but grow well, my friend, just
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: recap a little bit about your partnership with in Groove
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: before we wrap up the interview. Uh that you you
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: have Culture Collective Records. You have a partnership with in Grooves.
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: Talked to us about again while I was that launching
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: that manner and what's the future. Yeah, Luke James isn't
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: a client that we worked with so many years in.
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: Luke was a former major label artist and for various reasons,
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: Ted left the Island Records um uh label, which is
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: the major record able. And here here you was sitting
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: with a bank of beautiful music to put out and
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: nobody to partner with to do it um. And you
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: know we're as his managers, dealing with him on a
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: daily basis on development his road map in his career.
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: So well, what if we just develop a strategic relationship
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: and let's work with the music out, Well we'll be
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: beliebel right, um. And I've done some work with Injuries
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: in the past, a lot of great success with them.
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: And when I sat with them and launched Culture Collective
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: a little less than a year ago, I wanted to
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: their officers and share the vision in initial statement of
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: the company. It thought it was great, They thought it
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: was during much needed in the business and at the
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: same time as if there's any way in which we
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: can be helpful um to you or your clients, we
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: should have a larger conversation. And that was you know,
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: the birth of our first uh you know, you know,
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: brain storms around coming together to develop a pipeline for
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: us to be able to put music out through their system.
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: So fast forward eight months later, you know, Luke James
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: is putting out his release through the Injuries Universal Pipelining
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: digital service providers. Um, we are gonna, we are gonna,
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: you know, working with ingres Um on all aspects of
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: this release. And uh it's been great. It's in a great,
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: great relationship, awesome as always, articulate, informative and uh spewing
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: out the knowledge we all need to hear. Johnathan Zoo,
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: thanks for coming back on money making conversation. We're talking
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- 1:23:53Speaker 1: thank you. It's truly a pleasure in honor to be here.
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Mr Rashawn. It's always a pleasant, well
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: awesome a friend. You know. I'm a member of the
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: Lincoln LinkedIn Social Media society. So I get a chance
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: to watch your videos, I'm motivated. Uh. I find them entertaining.
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: I find them. Uh. I could never do them because
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: you you know, you're very active. You're very active in
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: your in your in your video video. Explain that technique
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: that you developed in you in your videos. Well, I,
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: first of all, thank you, and when it comes to
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: the videos, it's all passion, it's all purpose to me.
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: I gotta drop a name for you. Paul Brunson, they
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: recently moved to the UK. Has the Relationship show was
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: picked up my own years ago and they put them
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: on a great path. I was in the Mastermind group
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: with Paul and he said, Mark, your power, your energy
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: is amazing, but you got to get it out to
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: the world. So he said, in today's era of social media,
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: you just gotta let it all out. And that led
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: me to start doing videos. And I was standing still.
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: He said, Mark, that's not enough. You too possible start
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: walking around. And then when I was in Atlanta, I
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: was at John Hope Bryant's Hope Global for for him.
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: And I was the first one I did walking around
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: and he said, that's good. Mark, I feel it. But
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: it's another level. And and and listen, Mr Rashwan, when
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: I started putting that video camera down and just start
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: letting guy use me naturally, that's what you see today,
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: and that's what's bringing everyone in the world that's taking notice. Well,
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: I take notice. I showed it to my staff. I
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: told him, I said this, I helped up. I said
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: this the guy one on my show right here, Mark,
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: look at it. Let guy right here look at it.
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: Moves back, he runs to the camera, goes back, he
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: makes that statement, and the steps back. I said, he
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: does it everywhere. He could be. He could be on
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: the street, he could be in the parking lot, he
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: could be in front of the building. I just love
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: the fact that you're saying you're willing to take your
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: your message wherever needs to be heard. That's basically what
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: you're saying in your videos. Correct. I am definitely saying that.
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: And here's the thing. See, I get motivated when I
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: can motivate others. God set me up, and see what
- 1:25:52Speaker 1: happens is that this is the only thing that's this
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: liberating for me, it's liberating. I've been holding that power
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: and of so long and now you know, we getting
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: the other questions later. But I made millions and lost
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: it all. But now I'm in alignment with my purpose.
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: So now I'm able to do things like this video
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: and just let all the power out because my job
- 1:26:14Speaker 1: is to take the power that's in me and transferred
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: to the people of the world. Well, what you do?
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: You caught my eye and I find it because I
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: feel you know when you when you're in this business
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: is a competitive business, Okay, motivation and information and you
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: know what separates you what catches a person I and
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: and allows them to share your views, And that's the
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: whole thing in social media. You know, you're marketing and
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: branding machine. And so what's your hook, what's your take
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: on it and how you can grow your brand and
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: basically what you're doing and developing this technique? I find it. Uh,
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: Can I congratulate you on that? And one of the
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: reasons I'm a fan is because I know that's tied
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: to a plan, a plan of action. Correct, yes, absolutely, absolutely, yes,
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: it's definitely tied to a plan of action. And again
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: you know, um, and that's how ironic. We're in Black
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: History month, and um, what happened is that you know
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: Martin had a dream. We all know that. But I
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: also had a dream at the age of fifteen. In fact,
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: I had the same dream each and every night for
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: an entire year. And this is what it looked like.
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: I'm talking about. When I wake up and fall back
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: to sleep, to dream continue. When I go to sleep
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: the next night, the dream continues for an entire year.
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: So so Mr rashawn Is, I stand on your show
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: and I sit and I spilled my heart out to
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: you into the audience. I'm here to tell you that
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: that dream is coming true right here, right now. So
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: I'm a testament that life is real. You can create
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: your own life. We're on a delayed gratification scale. That's
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: why your life is created by how you think, how
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: you feel, and how you respond to situations. I'll say
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: it again, your life is created by how you think,
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: how you feel, and how you respond to situation. Well,
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: Mr back, you have not failed me so far in
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: this interview. Now your book here, how to be One
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: with your Greatness. Before we get into the book, I
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: had one question, though, what is your greatness, my greatness
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: and I And this is a great question. In fact,
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: I was talking to a couple of friends the other day,
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: and my view of greatness is that greatness is in
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: the eye of the beholder, meaning that everyone's greatness may
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: look and feel different. That's why we're all made distinctively different.
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: And here's how you know, because that fingerprint that you
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: walk around with that DNA is unmatchable. You can search
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: the whole world, but there's no one that can specifically
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: match your fingerprints. So that's basically what my greatness is
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: this to come and total alignment with that fingerprint, with
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: that uniqueness that I was created to be. So in
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: doing that, and I'm trying to get into the book
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: a little bit, but you gotta come in alignment with
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: your truth and the so so therefore you gotta first
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: learn what your truth is. Because what life does. It
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: forces things on you. So it forces education, all these
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: other things on But the true true definition of education
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: is not systematic knowledge to go out and make other
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: people wealthy. True definition of education is not is development
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: from within. So we're already wired for greatness, but when
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: we come into this world, they've bombard you with other
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: aspects of what you have to do, and often times
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: we we put up these artificial layers to try to
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: suffice all of these things that are coming at us
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: in life. When the truth of the matter is that
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: you're already wired for greatness. You just gotta resist the
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: external and believe and what's inside. My man. We're talking
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: to Mark D. Baxter, author of How to Be One
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: with Greatness. You were Born to be great this book,
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: I read it always what I when I do when
- 1:29:46Speaker 1: I bring authors on the show. I always read the
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: book to day out, you know, like I get up earlier,
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: read this so everything stays real fresh. And there was
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: some really key moments in your growth, you know, five six, nine,
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: early years. You know that with the mining and if
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: the reason I bringing that up because it's important to
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: understanding you can be shaped so clean in those early
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: years and a lot of people understand how important it
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: is to start really, you know, putting a proper imprint
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: on the kid, because those memories can carry you to
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: adulthood as it has you because it's it's written in
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: your book. When you were five years old, when your
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: brother Tony walked you down to your school for the
- 1:30:24Speaker 1: first time he was excited and then he just let
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, it was a traumatic It was a
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: traumatic experience. And what you you said that, Mr Rashawn,
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: you said it. We are all a product of our home,
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: our environment, and our experience. We are all products of
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: our home, our environment, and our experiences. And whatever you
- 1:30:47Speaker 1: choose to do back in the day, way mixed it
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: in a pot like gumbo. So however you mix it
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: in your pots, and whatever recipe you come out with
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: is what you have to deal with. See, I was
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: challenged with a lot of adversity early on in my
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: life and throughout my life because I understand for who
- 1:31:04Speaker 1: much has given, much is required. And see, you gotta
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: change your perception of adversity. Adversity is not bad. Adversity
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: is nothing more than growth opportunities because the only way
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: you can grow is by being challenged. So you gotta
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: change the way you look at adversity. And that's what
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: my life has toward me early on in my life.
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: I'm from I'm from a very dysfunctional household. I have
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: a mom that didn't finish high school. She's from South Carolina,
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: has to grow up really really hard. And I have
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: a dad that only went to the sixth grade from Savannah, Georgia,
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: and they both migrated here to Philadelphia and and and
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: created a relationship. And don't get me wrong, God rest
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: my dad and my mom. I lost my dad on
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: June eight to, two thousand and eighteen. I lost my
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: mom on June twenty last year, two thousand nineteen. God
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: rest their soul. But the truth of the matter is that,
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: you know, I'm a realist. They should have never been married.
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: You know, they created a high I love my siblings,
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: and I'm thankful for being created, but you know, you
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: gotta call us fade of space. And growing up in
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: the household it was very traumatic. I mean, they slept
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: in separate rooms, stretching to kill each other every day.
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: And then we were in the hood, we were from poverty,
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: and then on top of that and so so so
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: everything is just reinforcing the negativity. And then on top
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: of that, I was the youngest at all of this
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: drive and all of this insight inside of me, and
- 1:32:25Speaker 1: I had no outlet to let it out, no mentors.
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: You know. That came later on and I found refuge
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: to football and in church. That saved my life, and
- 1:32:37Speaker 1: I poured all of my pain into it, and henceforth
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: it got me a scholarship to college in football, and
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: I got a tremendous relationship with God because I didn't settle.
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: You know, you got a choice. I mean, listen, adversity
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: comes free, but you gotta fight to secure the blessing.
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: Every adversity comes with an equal with not greater blessing.
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: The adversity will find you free, but you gotta fight
- 1:32:59Speaker 1: to secure a blessing. And the difference is that us,
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: especially as a people, we've become comfortable with simply surviving
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: as this you get a reward for surviving. You know,
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: it's admirable to survive. But it's time that we start
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: to thride. So you gotta push the issue to thride
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: to get to those blessings. And that's what I just
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: learned how to do, and that's what I'm showing the
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: world how to do it. He's doing on a First
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: of all, you're successful, and you called my attention. That's
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: why you're on money Making Conversation. I'm talking to Mark
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: the Baxter, the author of the book How to Be
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: One with Greatness. You were born to be great, motivational
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: He's honest. Uh, Mark, do you have a YouTube channel? Absolutely? Absolutely,
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: if it's in my name, Mark Baxter, Mark Baxter, and
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: so to all the videos that I see on LinkedIn
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: stored on your your YouTube channel. YouTube, Absolutely, I have
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: over to I have hundreds of videos on YouTube. I
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: haven't counted in a year, but I'm I'm very very
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: active on YouTube, my daily videos on YouTube. In fact,
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: I've been doing videos on YouTube for years. It's just
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: that I picked it up. I've had great people around me,
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: you know, runs to give me a vibe. You know,
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: I'm on you know, the Rash Donald's show. So it's amazing.
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: I'm getting people around. Success is closing in on me.
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: I can't lose. You can't lose, you can't not lose
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: because of the fact that, first of all, I'm chasing
- 1:34:20Speaker 1: the man. I appreciate you. That's what money made conversation
- 1:34:23Speaker 1: is all about. First of all, individuals who willing, who
- 1:34:26Speaker 1: are willing to share their stories so everybody can find
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: that the path can't be relatable, okay, because you know
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: you can see that journey. You can see superstars, you
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: can see millionaires, you see big cars, you see Blaining
- 1:34:37Speaker 1: basically was always played out in music videos. Now it's
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: being played out in social media because people post their
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: best Nobody pay post their tragic Everybody wants post their
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: best clothes, the best play, the food, you know, the
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: best vacation experience. You know, they're sitting them from They're
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: standing in front the car. They might not even own
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: that car, but they're standing in front of you know,
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: so they're presenting that image to you. And so so
- 1:34:59Speaker 1: you are. You're a guy who's sitting in the middle
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: of all that. You know, you like like peeping through
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: the curtains and guess who's on the other side. Mark,
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: we know that said come on over here, don't be afraid,
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: don't be afraid, don't be afraid, and that's why I
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: started Money Making Conversation. We will come back in our
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: next break and getting more detail on this board. I
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: hope enjoying the interview here, Mark, because I'm so happy
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: you came on my show. I follow him on LinkedIn,
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: uh and uh he's spectacular on LinkedIn. He he motivates
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: me every week with his videos with his energy as
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: you hear in this interview is incredible. We'll be back
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: with more money Making Conversation with my man, Dr Mark Baxter.
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from Marsa McDonald. The
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: money making conversations don't touch that down. Just Rashan McDonald
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: and you're listening to money making conversations. I host this
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: show to bring individuals on the show that can give
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: you information on how to be successful. I know their
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: life is different, their path to success is different, but
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: they will share with you nuggets of information that will
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: allow you to understand that your path after your dreams
- 1:36:01Speaker 1: can be achieved. One of the true uh and inspirations
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: of this whole technique, seeking your greatness, accepting your greatness
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: is on the phone with me today. Is a very
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: successful book alcohol How to be One with Greatness. You
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: were born to be great? Uh. Dr Mark d Factor Mark,
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: how are you doing to day, my friend? I'm doing excellent.
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: Nesr Rashine and listen. It's such a pleasure to be
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: here and I want to thank you again for having
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: me well great. Um. I was talking about we we
- 1:36:29Speaker 1: kind of dipped in a little bit when you know,
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: like I love the fact that you know you just
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: told her on the story about your home life. But
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: it was these these little slices of life that stories
- 1:36:39Speaker 1: are experiences you provide your book, like like dealing with issues,
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: how we how we will hide and how we will shield,
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: how we tend to stop ourselves, like like expecting something
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: that happened, and then when it doesn't have that happen
- 1:36:54Speaker 1: that way, how do you deal with it? And that
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: was that simple walk to school when your brother Tony
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: was taking you. You thought he's gonna walk you all
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: the way to school, and you was having a good time.
- 1:37:04Speaker 1: You know, you're barely keeping up with him with your
- 1:37:05Speaker 1: little short legs, and he was just he was just
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: walking normal. You know, what are you looking at? You?
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: You just trying to keep up. And then you just
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: you just say a word or two. You thought there
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: was gonna be like a big brother little brother conversation
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: and he's gonna just tell you about life on the way,
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: and he barely spoke to you. And then when he
- 1:37:20Speaker 1: was almost almost out of school, he just pointed at it.
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: You got it from here, I got you now. But
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: that's what the life feels about though, because a lot
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: of people, they get on the job, they think the
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: job is gonna go this way, and then when the
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: when the job throws in the curve, how they how
- 1:37:36Speaker 1: they deal with it is the next step on how
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: they're going to be successful. That's what I took away
- 1:37:41Speaker 1: from that story. You walk in to school with an
- 1:37:44Speaker 1: expectation your brother's gonna take you to the front door
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: that school, and he didn't. How you dealt with it
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: along the way for the rest of your life. Really,
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: it's who you are today and and and I thank
- 1:37:57Speaker 1: you for the for the knowledge that you use with
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: social media and things, I say the same thing. Everybody
- 1:38:02Speaker 1: proclaim their own goodness is a perfect place for me
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: invent yourself. But no, you're you're you're a hundred percent right.
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: It's all about what how you handle the situations that
- 1:38:11Speaker 1: you're faced with. And when my brother was walking me
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: to school, um again, you were perfect. You're in your
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: analysis of me thinking it's going to be a big
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: brother and little brother interaction. I rarely saw him. He
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: was about sixteen years older than me. I was the youngest,
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: and it's a big gap in between us. And this
- 1:38:29Speaker 1: was individual time and then when he left me. But
- 1:38:32Speaker 1: what I had to realize, this is what I encourage
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: us all to do. The first person you have to
- 1:38:36Speaker 1: look at in any situation is yourself, because all of
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: the answers to life's problems are in the mirror. And
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: what I realized at a young age is that I
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: mislad my older brother. See, any situation that you're part of,
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: there's something that you gotta learn, even if it seems
- 1:38:52Speaker 1: like it's not your fault, Like if it seems like
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: you're Huney innocent, there's still something you gotta learn, or
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: else you wouldn't have never been encountered the situation. So
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: when I had to look in the mirror, I realized
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: that I created that situation because I used to act
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: tougher than I really was. You see, because I had
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: these older brothers that were cool, and I used to
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: act that way too. I act more mature. I had
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: some pride in there. Because of that pride is what
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: my brother called on too. He he felt those vibrations
- 1:39:21Speaker 1: and in his mind, he didn't feel like he was
- 1:39:23Speaker 1: doing anything wrong. He felt like he may have been
- 1:39:26Speaker 1: doing me a favorite because I was. I was projecting
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: as if I was more mature than I really was.
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: So I had to look in the mirror fers to
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: acknowledge how could I do different or what how can
- 1:39:39Speaker 1: I change my behavior in order to get a different result.
- 1:39:42Speaker 1: And I had set the tone for the rest of
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: my life. And I realized I used to question God
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: all the time because I didn't just have little things
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: happened to me. I had big things happened to me.
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: Like I didn't E just break her arm. I broke
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: my femur bone, the biggest bone in your body, your
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: side bone. So I had to be in a body
- 1:39:57Speaker 1: cast for three to six months. I had to learn
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: how to walk all over again. So I didn't just
- 1:40:02Speaker 1: have little stuff happened to me, And I used to
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: always question, you know, God, why me? Why me? I
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: didn't ask for my mom not to like me. I
- 1:40:10Speaker 1: didn't do anything. I didn't ask for her to do,
- 1:40:13Speaker 1: to do anything in her power to try to tear
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: me down. You're the one that I looked to. You're
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: you're my point guard, you're my go to first, and
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: you're my quarterback. You know what I mean. But what
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: I realized about life is that that was just life
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: challenging me to be my best self. And now that
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: I was able to meet those challenges, that where they are.
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: And I mentioned earlier, every adversity comes with an equal,
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: if not greater blessings. Adversity comes free, but you gotta
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: fight to secure the blessings. And I'm just one that
- 1:40:43Speaker 1: fights to secure my blessings. And now I'm just trying
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: to help other people to fight to secure their well man,
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: that's exactly what I have you on this just to
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: tell my fans and my listeners are people who are
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: listening for the first time because it also plays out
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: on my YouTube channel, who might just click on your
- 1:40:59Speaker 1: your photo and say wow, because I wanted to share
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: your values. You know this book that you've written, How
- 1:41:05Speaker 1: to Be One with Greatness? You were born to be great?
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: What can we buy this book at? Mark? Well, the
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: book is an Amazon, I mean I published it through me,
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: uh the book Essence Essence Publishing, UM. And you can
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: email me directly and I'll ship it out to you.
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: You know, I met M Baxter at Mark Baxter dot com.
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: That's M Baxter, b a x tr at Mark Baxter
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: dot com. UM. You can also hit my website Mark
- 1:41:32Speaker 1: at www dot Mark Baxter dot com and just shoot
- 1:41:35Speaker 1: me an info or whatever. But I'll get it to
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: you because and I appreciate you, Mr Rashaan, because it's
- 1:41:41Speaker 1: all about awareness. You know, a lot of people need
- 1:41:44Speaker 1: exactly what I have, just like we all need each other,
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: but we don't know, you know, so we have to
- 1:41:50Speaker 1: keep expecting and having a desire for better. It's all
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: about your desire. If you don't have a desire for better,
- 1:41:57Speaker 1: better is not gonna come your way, you know. So
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: it's all about your desire. And uh, let's talk about it.
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: Let's talk about the business side of you. You. We
- 1:42:05Speaker 1: know you're a great motivator. We know you you're passionate
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: about your reminding people that your past. Do not allow
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: your past to determine your future, your destiny's chide to
- 1:42:15Speaker 1: your effort. Now, you have a business that I wanted
- 1:42:17Speaker 1: to bring up to apparel company called Gangster Mindset LLC
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: is reading redefining the word gangster with a positive spin.
- 1:42:24Speaker 1: Talk about that absolutely, like I've always um, you know,
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: I've always had designed being from the inner city, from
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: poverty and things like that, and coming out being a
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: being a man of character and integrity, you know, not
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: not perfect, but as pure of a hard as you'll find.
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: You know, I realized that, you know, it's all about
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: growth and development. You know, it's all about growth and development.
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: So you gotta put yourself in the best position so
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: you can continue to grow and develop. And that's all.
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: That's all that I do, and that's all that I
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: aspire other people to. The So Empartment Unlimited is a
- 1:42:57Speaker 1: company for individuals, businesses and then higher world and it's
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: it's about coaching and consulting from a mindset and leadership perspective.
- 1:43:06Speaker 1: So I have a mindset methodology program that I use
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: to take people and master themselves. Because I have a
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: personal quote, once you master yourself, life has no choice
- 1:43:18Speaker 1: but to forever bowed down to you. I'll say it again,
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: Once you master yourself, life has no choice but to
- 1:43:24Speaker 1: forever bowed down to you. And here's why. Because the
- 1:43:28Speaker 1: world is all fake as you just mentioned social media,
- 1:43:31Speaker 1: but yourself, you have your wired with greatness and authenticity.
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: So when you master that the world can't touch you.
- 1:43:37Speaker 1: So in my company, I raised businesses, individuals, two levels
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: unimaginable you know, gainster mindset of parer with a closing
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: company I just dropped. And what it means is boldness, excellence,
- 1:43:50Speaker 1: and uniqueness. So every day I do a video and
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: I get three steps on that video. The last step
- 1:43:55Speaker 1: is always you got to develop against mindset. And I
- 1:43:58Speaker 1: give a different description of what gangster mindset is in
- 1:44:01Speaker 1: fact today's video. The third point is you got to
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: develop a gainster mindset, a mind bold enough to believe
- 1:44:08Speaker 1: that life is always happening for you and not to you,
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: regardless of what it may look like or feel like.
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: My man, Okay, you know you got me fired up right,
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: let's been messing accomplict. Thank you everyone. Well, you know
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: the beauty. First of all, you noticed that the last
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: time on my show. Because I don't reach out to
- 1:44:31Speaker 1: people because I have a vision. People have called me
- 1:44:33Speaker 1: a visionary. I see things and how I talk to
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: people and these conversation. A lot of people call me
- 1:44:38Speaker 1: their uncle. And you you can come into the Little
- 1:44:41Speaker 1: Roushan Uncle club because of the fact that I want
- 1:44:44Speaker 1: to be there for you. You know, if you ever
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: want to call and uh, I give myself. If you
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: want to call and say, Rashan, what do you think
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: about this? It's about not about me making money. It's
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: about making ensure you that you're getting the advice from
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: a successful person who's had many paths out there and
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: and and many some people call me a renaissance man
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: because I'm able to rechange myself. I'm able to reinvent
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: the process of that path. I see an opportunity. What
- 1:45:10Speaker 1: I do not do, Mark is think about it. I
- 1:45:13Speaker 1: go forward. You know, if we're shining over there thinking no,
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: I think he's over there digging the ditch. Now, I
- 1:45:19Speaker 1: think he's already laying the concrete to the foundation for
- 1:45:22Speaker 1: his next house. I think that's what you're doing. So
- 1:45:24Speaker 1: when you turn out before we get off there, when
- 1:45:26Speaker 1: you see you contribute most to business success, can you
- 1:45:30Speaker 1: give us some nuggets and what you mean when you
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: say that statement? Oh man, listen, business success is nothing more.
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: Before you got a business, you got an individual. All
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: the team is as a group of individuals. And what
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: what makes it the team as the commitment to the
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: common goal. You see. So in order to have a
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: successful business, you gotta first have a successful why. You
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: gotta know your why. Why do you want this business?
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: Who are you serving? Why do you want to serve
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: that population? As Damon John says, I've been a rising
- 1:46:02Speaker 1: Grind ambassador. Now I'm a power Shift ambassador for Damon
- 1:46:06Speaker 1: John over the last two years, and his main thing
- 1:46:09Speaker 1: is know your target audience, Who are you selling to
- 1:46:13Speaker 1: So you gotta know your why, like why do you
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: want to get this product or this service out? And
- 1:46:18Speaker 1: then you gotta know who wants the service and products,
- 1:46:21Speaker 1: and then you gotta find creative ways to put it
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: in their hands, make them friends, make them, you know, customers,
- 1:46:28Speaker 1: and you gotta and that's what you have to do.
- 1:46:29Speaker 1: And you gotta constantly reinvent yourself. See the reason when
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: Puffy and Damon John broke up, you know, I mean,
- 1:46:36Speaker 1: not Puffy, when jay Z and Damon and David, I said,
- 1:46:39Speaker 1: Damon John. When Puffy and Damon Dad broke up, you
- 1:46:43Speaker 1: know from Rocket Feller, you know what I mean. And
- 1:46:45Speaker 1: jay Z said, okay, you may, you may hold make
- 1:46:48Speaker 1: another hole in his recordcy So, so what happened is
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: that jay Z was able to reinvent himself. Now you
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: see billionaire Jazz It See this game is about reinventing
- 1:46:59Speaker 1: yourself because sins constantly changed. Life is about evolution, constant change.
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: So if you think you can stay the same and
- 1:47:05Speaker 1: continue to rise and elevate your wrong, So in order
- 1:47:09Speaker 1: for you to be successful in life and in business,
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: you gotta want you gotta know your why, sitting to
- 1:47:14Speaker 1: the depth of it. You gotta know your why, why
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: are you doing it? Why are you want to be successful?
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: Who can you help? And then you gotta know who
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: who you going to help, Who's who likes your product,
- 1:47:24Speaker 1: who wants your product, who needs your product or service?
- 1:47:26Speaker 1: And then you've gotta find creative ways to make them
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: want it and need it over and over and over
- 1:47:31Speaker 1: again while not being afraid to dive then and reinvent yourself.
- 1:47:36Speaker 1: I'm talking to Dr Mark the Baxter, the author of
- 1:47:39Speaker 1: the incredible book How to Be One with Greatness. You
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: were born to be great. Mark, thank you for coming
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: on my show where you making conversations the pleasures all mine. Man,
- 1:47:48Speaker 1: I thank you so much on the depth of my
- 1:47:49Speaker 1: heart and we would talk to my friend keep winning
- 1:47:52Speaker 1: and uh I keep watching those videos, so you better
- 1:47:54Speaker 1: not stop. Okay, I can't stop. Won't stop. That's the
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