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Why is The Media Covering for Hamas, a Gag Order Will Not Allow a Free and Fair Election, plus Helping the People Of Israel the Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is a Verdict with Ted Cruz Weekend Review.
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Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you, and these are the big stories
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Speaker 1: that you may have missed that we talked about this week.
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Speaker 1: Story one a big one. Why is the media covering
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Speaker 1: for a terrorist organization Hamas and lying to you about
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Speaker 1: what Israel is doing? A perfect example is the fake
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Speaker 1: bombing of the hospital in Gaza that everyone blamed on Israel.
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Speaker 1: Story number two, Donald Trump election interference. A new gag
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Speaker 1: order has been put on the former president. How on
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Speaker 1: earth can he run in a free and fair election
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Speaker 1: if they won't let him talk or defend himself on
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Speaker 1: some of these charges. And finally, what can you do
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Speaker 1: as an American to actually help people in Israel? We
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Speaker 1: talk to someone on the ground in Israel and he
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Speaker 1: will explain exactly what the needs are. It is the
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Speaker 1: Weekend Review with Ted Cruz and it starts right now.
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Speaker 2: You know, I would like to ask MSNBC to put
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Speaker 2: out a formal statement explaining how someone who's raping a
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Speaker 2: little girl is not a bad guy, because that's apparently
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Speaker 2: their position. There are no good guys and bad guys.
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Speaker 2: You got to understand, because the Palestinians are living under
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Speaker 2: the boot of the Israeli military.
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Speaker 1: That is a lie.
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Speaker 2: That is a lie, but it's convenient propaganda. This is
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Speaker 2: the strategy. Push the lie, push the lie, put it
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Speaker 2: out there, and the reason we've devoted this entire pod
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Speaker 2: to this. More of this will come, much more. This
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Speaker 2: is just the beginning. I'm sorry to tell you. Next
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Speaker 2: week it's going to be worse, and in two weeks
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Speaker 2: it's going to be even worse, and in three weeks
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Speaker 2: it's going to be even worse than that. Because as
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Speaker 2: this war proceeds, Hamas is going to succeed in getting
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Speaker 2: Palestinian civilians killed. They want to succeed, and when they
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Speaker 2: have dead Palestinian civilians that they put in harm's way,
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Speaker 2: then all the CNN cameras are going to rush to
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Speaker 2: film the bodies and stand there and say Israel has
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Speaker 2: committed war crimes once again. Now mind you. Their alternative
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Speaker 2: is do what the Biden State Department asked them to do,
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Speaker 2: do a ceasefire. Sayta Hamas, never mind, don't know, you
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Speaker 2: can attack, you can murder one two hundred Israelis and
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Speaker 2: we'll do nothing. Because look, the objective of Hamas is
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Speaker 2: the same as the objective of anti Semites in America,
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Speaker 2: and it is to utterly destroy Israel. And these corporate
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Speaker 2: media propagandists are integral in the effort to destroy Israel.
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Speaker 2: You know, Ben, We've given several examples from MSNBC, from CNN,
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Speaker 2: and from ABC. But I don't want people to think
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Speaker 2: that CBS and NBC are blameless in this, because sadly,
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Speaker 2: the corporate media, they're all corrupt. So let's turn. I
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Speaker 2: want to turn to two headlines from CBS. First of all,
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Speaker 2: was the initial headline they put up, and it reads,
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Speaker 2: Israeli twin babies found hidden and unharmed at kibbutz where
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Speaker 2: Hamas killed their parents, allegedly beheaded children. So that's on
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Speaker 2: October twelfth, the headline from CBS News. Now, thankfully CBS
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Speaker 2: came back and edited that headline, and so the second
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Speaker 2: headline they put up was Israeli twin babies found hidden
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Speaker 2: and unharmed at kibbutz where Hamas killed their parents. Now
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Speaker 2: the second headline is fine. The first headline is part
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Speaker 2: of a very deliberate propaganda effort to say babies were
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Speaker 2: not beheaded. And you look at allegedly beheaded children and
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Speaker 2: the point is aha, we found some babies, so it's
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Speaker 2: not true that they beheaded children, because here are two
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Speaker 2: babies who are alive. I mean that that is so
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Speaker 2: mendacious it doesn't even pass the laugh test. And the topic.
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Speaker 2: How are we discussing babies being beheaded? It's not difficult
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Speaker 2: to tell the political agenda of the headline writer who
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Speaker 2: wrote the first headline. Yep, it is Hamas didn't do this.
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Speaker 2: The Israelis are lying. Nothing to see here.
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Speaker 1: Cast down on all stories of atrocities you may have
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Speaker 1: heard over the last week, allegedly right, allegedly.
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Speaker 2: By the way, that word allegedly sometimes they use it,
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Speaker 2: sometimes they don't. When Israel strikes at Gaza and they're
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Speaker 2: Palestinian civilians killed, twenty bucks says right now, CBS will
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Speaker 2: not use the word allegedly, allegedly will disappear. Let's give
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Speaker 2: an example from NBC. Yeah, NBC News, NBC News. Here's
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Speaker 2: the headline, Conservative stoke fears of a Hamas attack in US.
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Speaker 2: No credible threat, FBI says. The post show how quickly
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Speaker 2: the latest bloody conflict between Israel and Hamas has upended
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Speaker 2: online political debate thousands of miles away.
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Speaker 1: Now I've been part of this debate online because I
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Speaker 1: told the story you and I did this on the
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Speaker 1: podcast of the Day. There have been more terrorists on
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Speaker 1: the terrorists watch list this year that have been caught
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Speaker 1: coming across the border in the last five years combined.
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Speaker 1: So I guess I'm a part of the online you know,
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Speaker 1: the online political debate. By telling the facts that there
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Speaker 1: have been more people on the terrorists watch lift that
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Speaker 1: have come across the border have been caught this year,
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Speaker 1: doesn't county the godaways any of the people that got
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Speaker 1: across we don't know about then the last five years combine.
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Speaker 1: And if you say that now, now you're part of
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Speaker 1: some weird conspiracy theories group.
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Speaker 2: NBC went all in trying to cover that there's no
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Speaker 2: reason to think terrorism will happen in the United States.
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Speaker 2: By the way, among the conservative stoking fears are apparently
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Speaker 2: you and me, because Friday's podcast we went into great
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Speaker 2: length on this how this is particularly dangerous when you
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Speaker 2: have Hamas calling for a global day of Jahad, and
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Speaker 2: we've had two and a half years of open borders
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Speaker 2: with hundreds, if not thousands of criminals and terrorists crossing
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Speaker 2: into this country. Illegally, and look the numbers that we
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Speaker 2: have with people on the terror watch list, the numbers
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Speaker 2: that we have of people from special interest countries. Those
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Speaker 2: are disturbing, but it's the tip of the iceberg. What
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Speaker 2: is really worrying are the god aways. We don't know
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Speaker 2: how many terrorists came on the god aways. We know
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Speaker 2: that the fact that they got away shows they're deliberately
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Speaker 2: evading arrest. It suggests that they're not blameless. They're not
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Speaker 2: because if you're blameless, if you don't have a criminal record,
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Speaker 2: if you're not a gang member, if you're not a terrorist,
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Speaker 2: you turn yourself into the Biden administration and they let
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Speaker 2: you go. So there's no reason to be a got
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Speaker 2: away unless you're a drug dealer, unless you're a criminal,
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Speaker 2: unless you're a terrorist. That's the only reason. Yes, that's
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Speaker 2: why people are got aways. And the number you're looking
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Speaker 2: at upwards of a million and a half got aways.
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Speaker 2: We don't know how many terrorists are among that group.
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Speaker 2: But NBC is reporting as news. There's no reason to
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Speaker 2: be a friend terrorism in America. Never mind the million
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Speaker 2: and a half people who came in who could be terrorists.
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Speaker 2: Never mind the fact that if you were a terrorist,
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Speaker 2: if you wanted to commit Jahad, there's an obvious way
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Speaker 2: to do that you and I are not giving away
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Speaker 2: some state secrets saying if you're a terrorist who wants
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Speaker 2: to murder Americans, the way to do it is cross
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Speaker 2: over our southern border, because these idiots in the White
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Speaker 2: House will let you go, and they're not enforcing the border,
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Speaker 2: and it's not hard to be a got away. You
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Speaker 2: can get away because the border patrol agents are so
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Speaker 2: swamped with processing paperwork and changing diapers and dealing with
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Speaker 2: the seven point six million illegal immigrants that they're not
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Speaker 2: able to be actually protecting this nation. And mind you,
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Speaker 2: the Biden administration has also pulled federal air marshals off
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Speaker 2: a plane, so our planes are less secure because they're
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Speaker 2: down there doing paperwork as well. These two crises are intertwined,
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Speaker 2: and NBC News does not want anyone to connect that
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Speaker 2: our open borders makes us subject to a greater risk
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Speaker 2: of terrorism. I believe it is indisputable. The risk of
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Speaker 2: a major terror attack today is greater than any time
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Speaker 2: it has been since nine to eleven.
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Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. This
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Speaker 1: gag order that was just put on former President Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: plain and simple, is this election interference at its worst,
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Speaker 1: but also at its finest. For Democrats who say, hey,
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Speaker 1: we can shut up a candidate running the leader in
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Speaker 1: the lead by I don't know forty plus points depending
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Speaker 1: on what poll you look at, we're going to make
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Speaker 1: sure this guy can't defend himself. And what we're trying
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Speaker 1: to do to.
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Speaker 2: Him, this gag order is blatantly unconstitutional. Really, it is
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Speaker 2: an absolute abuse of power. Here's what the gag order reads. Quote,
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Speaker 2: all interested parties in this matter, including the parties in
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Speaker 2: their council, are prohibited from making any public statements or
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Speaker 2: directing others to make any public statements that target won
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Speaker 2: the Special Council prosecuting this case or his staff. Two
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Speaker 2: Defense councilor of the staff. Three any of this court
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Speaker 2: staff or other supporting personnel. And four any reasonable foreseeable
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Speaker 2: witness or the substance of their testimony. Now I want
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Speaker 2: to focus in particular on two of them. Number one,
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Speaker 2: the Special Council prosecuting the case. The judge is saying
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Speaker 2: You're not allowed to make this case that the Special
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Speaker 2: Council is a rabid partisan Democrat who's made a career
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Speaker 2: out of prosecuting Republicans, out of abusing his power. And
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Speaker 2: he's saying Trump can't make that point, but no, sheep,
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Speaker 2: rather the judge. But even more importantly, number four, Trump
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Speaker 2: is prohibited from saying any making any public comments about
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Speaker 2: any reasonable foreseeable witness or the substance of their testimony.
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Speaker 2: So one of the witnesses is Mike Pence. Mike Pence
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Speaker 2: is currently running against Donald Trump for President of the
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Speaker 2: United States. So you now have a federal judge saying you,
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Speaker 2: the leading candidate for president of the United States, as
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Speaker 2: a Republican, are prohibited by the court from making any
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Speaker 2: comments positive or negative about Mike Pence, one of your opponents.
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Speaker 1: That's impossible, by the way.
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Speaker 2: You know, I can just envision if Trump participated in
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Speaker 2: a debate, and I don't know if he will or not,
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Speaker 2: but you can imagine him on a debate stage and
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Speaker 2: Mike Pence stands up and a taxi and Mike Pence
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Speaker 2: has criticism of Trump, and Trump turns to him. And
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Speaker 2: if Trump were to follow this order, I guess Trump
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Speaker 2: would say, I would like to respond to those comments,
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Speaker 2: but I am prohibited by court order from saying anything
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Speaker 2: regarding the individual who just said that. That's absurd. That
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Speaker 2: is right in the face, laughing at the First Amendment,
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Speaker 2: laughing at free speech, laughing at the democratic process. Now
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Speaker 2: watch and listen to what Donald Trump said in response
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Speaker 2: to this.
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Speaker 3: They think the only way they can catch me is
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Speaker 3: to stop me from speaking. They want to take away
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Speaker 3: my voice. And a judge gave a gag order today.
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Speaker 3: Did you hear that? On speech? Which I believe is
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Speaker 3: totally unconstitutional? What she did. A judge gave a gagorder.
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Speaker 3: A judge doesn't like me too much. Her whole life
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Speaker 3: is not like in me, but she gave a gag order.
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Speaker 3: You know what a gagorner is. You can't speak badly
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Speaker 3: about your opponent. But this is weaponry. All being done
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Speaker 3: because Joe Biden is losing the election and losing very
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Speaker 3: very badly to all of us in the polls. He's
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Speaker 3: losing badly. But what they don't understand is that I
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Speaker 3: am willing to go to jail if that's what it
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Speaker 3: takes for our country to win and become a democracy again.
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Speaker 1: By the way, that's why people love him. Look, he's
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Speaker 1: calling it out and saying, fine, you want to go there,
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Speaker 1: you can put me in jail. I'm willing to go
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Speaker 1: to defend my rights to that end.
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Speaker 2: There are very few statements Donald Trump has made that
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Speaker 2: I agree with more emphatically than what he just said
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Speaker 2: there that is exactly right. By the way, on the
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Speaker 2: face of it, he argues violated the gag order right there,
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Speaker 2: because he's pointing out that the judge is a radical
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Speaker 2: leftist and is in fact one of the most liberal judges,
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Speaker 2: if not the most liberal judge on the entire DC Court.
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Speaker 2: I don't think the DC judge is going to dare
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Speaker 2: to put him in jail like you could.
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Speaker 1: She really couldn't. That was my question based on that.
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Speaker 1: Could she actually go and arrest him.
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Speaker 2: She could issue an order go arrest him and put
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Speaker 2: him in jail. Part of me wants her to do
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Speaker 2: that because if she did, he would immediately appeal and
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Speaker 2: I am absolutely certain the appellate courts would reverse it.
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Speaker 2: I put it at one hundred percent even for a
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Speaker 2: hardcore leftist judge. She knows that she's not going to lie.
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Speaker 1: And why did she do the gag order, That's my
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Speaker 1: question because if you know Donald Trump at all, you
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Speaker 1: know he's going to push that button.
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Speaker 2: Because there's an arrogance to it. And I think what
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Speaker 2: she probably will do is fine him. I think you
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Speaker 2: will see her at some point. I don't think she'll
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Speaker 2: take that comment. I think she'll try to find something
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Speaker 2: that is really explicitly blasting the prosecutor explicitly blasting Mike
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Speaker 2: Pence or some other potential witness. And I think what
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Speaker 2: is likely to that we're likely to see is that
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Speaker 2: she enters an order finding him one thousand dollars or
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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars or fifty one or hundred whatever some amount.
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Speaker 2: And I expect that find to be appealed, but it
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Speaker 2: will not be appealed with the urgency of if she
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Speaker 2: issued an order for the leading Republican candidate to be incarcerated.
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Speaker 1: And the former president of the United States of America.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that appeal would be resolved within hours like that
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Speaker 2: would be done on an emergency expedited basis, And even
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Speaker 2: the DC Circuit leans left. I don't believe the DC
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Speaker 2: Circuit look The Supreme Court in a case called Seattle
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Speaker 2: Times versus Reinhart said that Litigan's First Amendment rights quote
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Speaker 2: maybe subordinated to other interests that arise in the courthouse.
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Speaker 2: For instance, on several occasions, this Court has approved restrictions
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Speaker 2: on the communication of trial participants where necessary to ensure
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Speaker 2: a fair trial for a criminal defendant. But this isn't
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Speaker 2: designed to ensure a fair trial for criminal defendant. In fact,
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Speaker 2: just the opposite. This is designed to hurt the criminal defendant.
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Speaker 2: And I will point out in New York Times versus Sullivan,
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Speaker 2: which is a landmark, maybe the landmark free speech freedom
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Speaker 2: of the press case, the Supreme Court said that the
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Speaker 2: First Amendment reflects quote, a profound national commitment to the
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Speaker 2: principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust,
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Speaker 2: and wide open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic,
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Speaker 2: and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attack on government and public officials.
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Speaker 2: What this judge just said is you're not allowed to
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Speaker 2: criticize the prosecutor. You're not allowed to criticize Merrick Garland,
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Speaker 2: the most political Attorney general in America's history, for weaponize
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Speaker 2: the Department of Justice to go after you because he's
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Speaker 2: afraid you'll win the election. And he wants to abuse
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Speaker 2: the justice system to lock you up because he doesn't
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Speaker 2: want the voters to be able to vote for you.
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Speaker 2: You're not allowed to say that because while you're running
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Speaker 2: for president. I don't want I don't want the voters
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Speaker 2: to hear that. That's not about the jury pool. That's
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Speaker 2: not about protecting the integrity of the trial. That's about
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Speaker 2: I don't like anyone knowing what's going on. Now everyone
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Speaker 2: knows what's going on. That's why every time Trump gets indicted,
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Speaker 2: his numbers in the primary go up, because it's obvious
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Speaker 2: whether you like Trump or don't like Trump. Even people
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Speaker 2: that don't like Trump, they look at this and say,
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Speaker 2: this is garbage. And this gag order. I gotta say,
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Speaker 2: this judge may overreach, and I think this gag order
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Speaker 2: is overreaching. Now, the gag order, on the face of it,
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Speaker 2: is not likely to be immediately appealable on an expedited basis.
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Speaker 2: When the appeal will speed up in all likelihood is
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Speaker 2: when the judge orders a consequence. If the judge ordered incarceration,
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Speaker 2: If the judge says locks on, do that, I don't
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Speaker 2: think she is. I actually don't. I think I don't
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Speaker 2: know this judge at all, have never practiced in front
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Speaker 2: of her. I don't know her, but from everything I know,
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming and her record indicate she's a hardcore leftist.
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Speaker 2: But I don't think she's stupid. If you issue an
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Speaker 2: order go incarcerate the president of the United States, lock
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Speaker 2: him up, by the way, you want to talk about unprecedented,
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Speaker 2: put it in handcuffs, put it in prison. Secret Service
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Speaker 2: is coming with him, so in the cell, you're gonna
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Speaker 2: have Secret Service agents protecting Donald Trump in prison. If
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Speaker 2: she issued that order, you would have an emergency expedited appeal,
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Speaker 2: and my prediction is in less than a day it
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Speaker 2: would be reversed. I actually think in hours. I don't
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Speaker 2: even think it would take It wouldn't take twenty four hours.
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Speaker 2: It would take a couple of hours. And Trump is
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Speaker 2: exactly right. Send me to jail, you crazy lunatic partisan
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Speaker 2: who is rubber stamping this abuse of power from the
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Speaker 2: most partisan attorney general we've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: It's incredible.
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Speaker 2: This gag order is a sad moment in American democracy.
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Speaker 2: It's a sad moment for American free speech. And let
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Speaker 2: me close the podcast with this question. Can you name
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Speaker 2: a single Democrat who's criticized the gag order.
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Speaker 1: Not a one.
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Speaker 2: So I can't name an elected Democrat, but I can, Actually,
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna close with this. I can name Erwin Chimerinsky.
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Speaker 2: So Erwin Chimerinsky, I know him well. He's a very liberal,
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Speaker 2: left wing law professor. When I litigated the case defending
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Speaker 2: the Texas Ten Commandments monument in Texas went to the
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court, we won five to four. The lawyer on
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Speaker 2: the other side was Erwin Chimerinsky. He and I have
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Speaker 2: done multiple debates one on one. He's a very smart,
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Speaker 2: very affable, very liberal constitutional law professor. So Erwin wrote
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Speaker 2: on October seventeenth, twenty twenty three, an op ed in
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Speaker 2: the La Times entitled a federal judges gag order against
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Speaker 2: Trump may be satisfying, but it is isn't constitutional. And
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Speaker 2: here's what Erwin wrote. Basic First Amendment principles cast serious
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Speaker 2: doubt on the judge's order. Quote. The Supreme Court is
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Speaker 2: long held that court orders prohibiting speech constitute prior restraint
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Speaker 2: and allowed are allowed only in extraordinary, compelling circumstances. Quote.
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Speaker 2: What is particularly troubling about Chutkin's order is that it
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Speaker 2: seems primarily concerned with protecting prosecutors and court personnel from
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Speaker 2: Trump's vitriol. The law is clear that speech can't be
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Speaker 2: restricted to prevent government officials from being criticized or even vilified. Quote.
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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the First Amendment
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Speaker 2: protects a right to criticize government officials, even harshly. Quote.
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Speaker 2: There is no reason to believe, however, that Trump's criticism
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Speaker 2: of Smith, his staff, or court personnel will prevent a
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Speaker 2: fair trial. It is impossible to imagine that Trump's attacks
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Speaker 2: will change how the prosecutors behave Irwin Chemerinsky is demonstrating principle.
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Speaker 2: Here's absolutely right. Name one Democrat senator who's shown this principle.
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Speaker 2: Name one Democrat House member who shown this principle. If
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Speaker 2: they exist, I don't know about it. Because today's Democrat
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Speaker 2: members of Congress hate Donald Trump so much that the
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Speaker 2: rule of law, the First Amendment, the Constitution, free speech,
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Speaker 2: none of it matters. Trump hatred defines today's Democrat.
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Speaker 1: Party as before. If you want to hear the rest
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Speaker 1: of this conversation on this topic, you can go back
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Speaker 1: and down the podcasts from earlier this week to hear
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Speaker 1: the entire thing. I want to get back to the
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Speaker 1: big story number three of the week you may have missed. Lastly,
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Speaker 1: for everyone in the US, it's going to be hearing this.
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Speaker 1: Is there anything that they can do? I've had so
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Speaker 1: many people reach out saying they want to get involved,
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Speaker 1: they want to help. What is it they can do? Obviously,
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Speaker 1: pray for the people of Israel and those of the
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Speaker 1: loved ones that still have their loved ones who are missing,
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Speaker 1: that are being held hostage. But is there anything else
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Speaker 1: that Americans can do if they want to be involved?
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Speaker 4: Thank you for asking and having had the privilege of
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Speaker 4: representing America here in Israel for four years. I know
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Speaker 4: that Americans love Israel, and I know that Americans loved
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Speaker 4: being on the side of good and Israel is a
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Speaker 4: great example of that. Here are the three things that
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Speaker 4: somebody can do, and I just want to highlight for
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Speaker 4: one moment, it's important for all the listeners to know
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Speaker 4: that there were thirty Americans killed in this tragedy and
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Speaker 4: there are eleven Americans at least still missing. I remember
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Speaker 4: a time where there is a submarine, a tourist submarine
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Speaker 4: to go see the Titanic, and I think there were
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Speaker 4: five six seven people on board, and the Nationals gripped
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Speaker 4: by how many hours of oxygen that they had left.
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Speaker 4: And it was a porn of watching these people die.
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Speaker 4: But the world was gripped and prayed and whatever else
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Speaker 4: happened happened. And I'm not belittling that by any stretching magination.
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Speaker 4: But I do not see the same captivation of America
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Speaker 4: of eleven American young men and women being held hostage.
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Speaker 4: The Red Cross has not been able to see them.
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Speaker 4: We don't know where they are. The leaders of their
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Speaker 4: organization fit in a major non NATO allied country, Katarre.
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Speaker 4: They sit there in the four season villas and are
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Speaker 4: living it up while they know where our young men
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Speaker 4: and how young women are. And I don't know why
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Speaker 4: there's not a counter of how many seconds have gone
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Speaker 4: by since their parents, if their parents are still alive.
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Speaker 4: I've seen them last since America knows where they are.
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is this is yes in Israel.
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Speaker 4: But there are Americans amongst the hostages, and and Americas
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Speaker 4: amongst the killed in action, and and and we have
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Speaker 4: people protesting the streets rooting these people on that they
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Speaker 4: are there. They are rooting on the killing and the
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Speaker 4: kidnapping of Americans. Let's let's I just want to be
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Speaker 4: the crystal cinematic. Yeah. Three different things we can do
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Speaker 4: as human being, certainly as Americans, we're highly influential and connected.
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Speaker 4: The first is prayer to God in either sweet story plumbers,
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Speaker 4: Let's make sure that he's busy twenty four to seven.
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Speaker 4: If you pray, pray more. If you don't pray yet,
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Speaker 4: start now. That's critical. Number two is Israel will defend
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Speaker 4: itself by itself. It does not want an American troop,
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Speaker 4: never is wanted an American troop. It needs arms, needs wespons,
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Speaker 4: and needs to be able to be resupplied, and it
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Speaker 4: needs diplomatic cover to be able to continue to do this.
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Speaker 4: The Senator has pointed out so clearly how fast the
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Speaker 4: world turns against Israel. The United States needs to have
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Speaker 4: the moral clarity to allow Israel to exercise this tumor
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Speaker 4: along its side called Kamas as long as gi Iran.
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Speaker 4: It needs that diplomatic space and needs the wessonry to
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Speaker 4: be able to do it by itself. The third thing is, look,
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Speaker 4: all of my neighbors that I've said, have somebody who's
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Speaker 4: at the front. I don't know how they sleep a night,
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Speaker 4: which is by more than more than honor to be
23:03
Speaker 4: up in the middle of the night, to be able
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Speaker 4: to be on this podcast through the very little bit
23:07
Speaker 4: that I can do. If you post posts, if you
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Speaker 4: give charity, give charity. But whatever it is that you do,
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Speaker 4: do it until it hurts. There are mothers who cannot
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Speaker 4: sleep tonight because their kids are missing. There are fathers
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Speaker 4: who cannot sleep tonight because their kids are on the
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Speaker 4: front and they don't know if they will come home.
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Speaker 4: If we want to be with them, we need to
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Speaker 4: be with them, and that means do something differently than
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Speaker 4: you would normally do. If you normally pray for privates,
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Speaker 4: pray until you're missing. The football game is Saturday, pray
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Speaker 4: until right. If you give charity, you can apport one
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars. Figure out how to get two thousand dollars.
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Speaker 4: There are ways that we can be with the people
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Speaker 4: of Israel at this point in time, the Americans who
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Speaker 4: are still missing at this point in time, in a
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Speaker 4: way that God will know that I ain't willing to
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Speaker 4: sacrifice in order to help share the pain. Pain can
23:57
Speaker 4: be diffused, pain can be shared, and so we'll ise,
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Speaker 4: will win, the free world will win, America will win.
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Speaker 4: We just need to do those three things.
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Speaker 2: So Aria, that was profound and powerful and and and
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Speaker 2: and I agree with all three. Let me make a
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Speaker 2: couple of observations. One, Uh, the fact, my friend, that
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Speaker 2: you were a rabbi came through loud and clear when
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Speaker 2: when you gave the the the wonderful advice if you pray,
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Speaker 2: pray more. If you don't pray, start praying now. I
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Speaker 2: I love that advice. And that's that's good advice to
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Speaker 2: every listener. A verdict. I enthusiastically second that that council.
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Speaker 2: And and you're right in terms of all of the
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Speaker 2: steps of adding the voice, adding the voices of truth
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Speaker 2: that that that are really needed powerfully right now, you know,
24:44
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, I want to shift just
24:47
Speaker 2: as we're wrapping up to a broader policy question, because
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Speaker 2: you are living in Israel, you're experiencing firsthand what's happening there.
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Speaker 2: But you also have been a very senior United States official,
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Speaker 2: the chief of State to the American ambassador to Israel
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Speaker 2: during one of the most consequential times in the history
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Speaker 2: of Israel, and that was the Trump presidency. David Friedman
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Speaker 2: was ambassador. We moved the American embassy to Jerusalem, something
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Speaker 2: presidents of both parties had promised, both Republican and Democrat,
25:18
Speaker 2: and presidents of both parties had broken that promise, and
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Speaker 2: yet we were able to deliver on it. And you
25:25
Speaker 2: also were integral in a process. Just two and a
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Speaker 2: half years ago, we were at a moment where where
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Speaker 2: peace was breaking out in the Middle East, the Abraham
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Speaker 2: Accords were being signed, and we were seeing Arabs and
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Speaker 2: Israelis coming together in a moment that many of us
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Speaker 2: were afraid we would never see. And it was extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: And you played an important part in that process. And
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Speaker 2: so what I want to ask you is a question
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Speaker 2: what changed three years ago? I remember standing on the
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Speaker 2: south lawn of the of the White House for the
25:59
Speaker 2: signing of the Abraham Accords, and people were marveling, how
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Speaker 2: did this happen? And now we're facing the worst war
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Speaker 2: in Israel in over fifty years, And and and in
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Speaker 2: your judgment, as someone who was intimately involved in the
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Speaker 2: policy that led to the good outcome, what has changed
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Speaker 2: to have led to this horrific state of affairs where
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Speaker 2: we find ourselves today, My goodness.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know when your phone shows you like images
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Speaker 4: that happen on that day. So three years ago this morning,
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Speaker 4: I was in Abu Davi with our Secretary of the Treasury,
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Speaker 4: Stephen Denucin, leading the first ever Abraham of Court business
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Speaker 4: delegation Dawodabi in the height of Covid, who brought one
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Speaker 4: hundred is Raey business people met and women com meet
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Speaker 4: with one hundred Amarati business people met in women in
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Speaker 4: the middle of Covid. And had it not been Covid,
26:53
Speaker 4: they would have been hugging each other and said they
26:55
Speaker 4: were doing that stupid out boat thing which like was
26:59
Speaker 4: forced for people. And just three there's an l place
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Speaker 4: flying from Israel to Avru Valley to the United Arab
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Speaker 4: Emirates and five peace treaties in one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 4: three days, and there were more to come. Had the
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Speaker 4: Bible administration capitalized on that the answer and I will
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Speaker 4: agree with how you started the show. Thanks God for
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Speaker 4: President Biden's showing up to Iszel. Thanks God that President
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Speaker 4: Biden brought the carriers into the Mediterranean close in order
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Speaker 4: to do an act of deterrence. I praise him. I
27:31
Speaker 4: thanked him, and I think those are important. I think
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Speaker 4: that's great, But the three years prior to that is
27:37
Speaker 4: why we're in this position. When you appease Iran, that
27:41
Speaker 4: is a Neville Chamberlain action. Yeah twice Iran, that is
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Speaker 4: the Churchill reaction. We have given money to Iran, We've
27:50
Speaker 4: taken our plus off of their financial neck. There's the
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Speaker 4: billion to tens of billions, hundreds of billions of dollars
27:57
Speaker 4: that Iran has gotten over the last three years. We're
27:59
Speaker 4: not used to rebuild their economy, their universities, they're their
28:03
Speaker 4: high tech sector. They were used to fund terror And
28:07
Speaker 4: when Biden decided that he wasn't going to use the
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Speaker 4: words Abraham Aports, that sent the message to every country
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Speaker 4: that joined the Israel in peace that leave the United
28:18
Speaker 4: States of America do not stand with you. It left
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Speaker 4: a vacuum in the region. And when the United States
28:24
Speaker 4: needs a vacuum and the region is not filled by
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Speaker 4: Costa Rica, it's filed by China, Iran, and Russia. And
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Speaker 4: the only deal that's been broken in the last three
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Speaker 4: years in the Middle East that when we get five
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Speaker 4: in one hundred and twenty three days, with ten other
28:38
Speaker 4: countries ready to go, we gain the playbook to the
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Speaker 4: Biden administration, China brokeer a deal in between Iran and
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Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia. Now, why would Saudi Arabia, a chief relationship
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Speaker 4: of the United States of America a wreached to a
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Speaker 4: deal with their number one adversary, Iran brokeer by China
28:58
Speaker 4: because they didn't trust with the United States and America
29:01
Speaker 4: would be there for them. And our inability to be
29:05
Speaker 4: able to tell our allies concrete me, we will be
29:08
Speaker 4: with you. Create a vacuum. And when that vacuum exists,
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Speaker 4: it's killed by terror. Under the Obama administration, who's called ice.
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Speaker 4: Under the Bided administration, it's called Cormas Husballah and Iran
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Speaker 4: it's the same thing, the same radicals run. But it's
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Speaker 4: because we are not precisive, we are not here, and
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Speaker 4: we fund this. We fund this with our Iran deal
29:29
Speaker 4: that you fought against. We fund this with our hostage
29:32
Speaker 4: negotiations which I would call land and payments, which you
29:35
Speaker 4: fought against. But we nonetheless have enfranchised these monstrous barbarians
29:42
Speaker 4: who direct, fund and lead these attacks. And we can
29:45
Speaker 4: call it Romas, you can call it Hugballah, but it's
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Speaker 4: the Iran.
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