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MAGA Targeted Though Financial Institutions, Sen Ted Cruz Weighs In · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We now know the federal government flagged terms. Okay, the
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  Speaker 1: federal government flagged terms like MAGA and trump. Who do
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  Speaker 1: they flagged them for? To financial institutions? If Americans completed
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  Speaker 1: transactions using those terms, that's not all that was flagged.
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  Speaker 2: You want to know what else they flagged?
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  Speaker 1: If you bought a religious text like a Bible, or
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  Speaker 1: even shopped at bass pro shops. The Committee on the
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  Speaker 1: Judiciary and the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the
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  Speaker 1: Federal Government are conducting oversight a federal law enforcement receipt
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  Speaker 1: of information about American citizens without legal process and its
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  Speaker 1: engagement with the private sector. Based upon documents obtained by
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  Speaker 1: the Committee and the Select Committee, we believe that you,
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  Speaker 1: as the former director of the Office of Stakeholder Integration
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  Speaker 1: and Engagement in the Strategic Operations Division of the Financial
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  Speaker 1: Crimes Enforcement Network also known as fin ce IN, possesses
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  Speaker 1: information necessary for our oversight. We asked that you appear
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  Speaker 1: for a transcribed interview. The Committee and the Select Committee
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  Speaker 1: have obtained documents, and this is what you need to share, folks,
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  Speaker 1: because if you don't do it, no one will know
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  Speaker 1: this happened. The Committee and Select Committee have obtained documents
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  Speaker 1: indicating that following January sixth, twenty twenty one, FENCEND distributed
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  Speaker 1: materials to financial institutions that, among other things, outlined the
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  Speaker 1: typologies of various persons of interest and provided financial institutions
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  Speaker 1: with suggested search terms and merchant category codes own as
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  Speaker 1: MCCs for identifying transactions on behalf of federal law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: These materials included a document recommending the use of generic
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  Speaker 1: terms like trump and MAGA to search Zell payment messages,
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  Speaker 1: as well as prior fence and analysis of loan actors
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  Speaker 1: SLASH homegrown violent extremism indicators. According to this analysis, Fence
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  Speaker 1: and Warren financial institutions of extremism indicators that included transportation
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  Speaker 1: charges such as a bus ticket, then you're treated like
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  Speaker 1: a terrorist rental cars around DC during that time that
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  Speaker 1: would now you're like a terrorist. Or a plane ticket
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  Speaker 1: to go anywhere around Washington, d C. You would be
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  Speaker 1: treated like a you guessed it terrorist for travel to
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  Speaker 1: areas with no apparent purpose or the document says, the
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  Speaker 1: purchase of books, including religious texts that would be the Bible,
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  Speaker 1: and subscriptions to other media containers extremist views. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: FENCEN urged large financial institutions to comb through the private
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  Speaker 1: transactions of their customers for suspicious charges on the basis
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  Speaker 1: of protected political and religious expression. We then found out
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  Speaker 1: this as Jim Jordan put it out there. In addition,
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  Speaker 1: the Committee and Select Subcommittee have obtained documents showing that
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  Speaker 1: Fence and distributed slides prepared by a financial institution explaining
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  Speaker 1: how other financial institutions can use MCC codes to detect
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  Speaker 1: customers whose transactions may reflect potential active shooters and who
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  Speaker 1: may include dangerous international terrorists, domestic terrorists, homegrown violent extremists,
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  Speaker 1: lone wolves. For example, the slides instruct financial institutions to
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  Speaker 1: query for transactions using certain MCC codes such as thirty
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  Speaker 1: four eighty four that would be small arms, fifty ninety one,
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  Speaker 1: sporting and recreational goods and supplies, and keywords listen carefully, Cabe,
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  Speaker 1: Dick Sporting Goods, among several others. You go out and
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  Speaker 1: buy a Bible or go to Dick Sporting Goods or
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  Speaker 1: Cabela's or Bass Pro, and they were saying, treat them
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  Speaker 1: like they are a possible domestic terrorist. Earlier today, I
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  Speaker 1: sat down with sender Ted Cruz to talk about this
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  Speaker 1: exact issue of what Congress can do with real oversight
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  Speaker 1: of how this abuse of power took place with these
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  Speaker 1: financial institutions. And I want you to hear what he
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  Speaker 1: had to say. I want to move Senator also to
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  Speaker 1: this other really shocking story and it just shows you
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  Speaker 1: how bad our government has become. And I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: the deep state here with the FEDS targeting conservatives with
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  Speaker 1: alarming new surveillance. The FEDS asked banking institutions to search
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  Speaker 1: private transactions without any type of warrants for terms like
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  Speaker 1: Maga Trump or other words that dealt with things that
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  Speaker 1: were biblical purchases that can include a Bible. Also, keywords
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  Speaker 1: that they said that they suggested that banks look for
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  Speaker 1: in transactions would be things like sporting goods stores like
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  Speaker 1: Dick's Sporting Goods, Kabbella's Bass Pro Shop in more. This
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  Speaker 1: is such an abuse of power and a weaponization of
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  Speaker 1: the federal government on the American people. When I hear this,
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  Speaker 1: I want to know, how is this not breaking the
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  Speaker 1: law to be able to do this without there being
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  Speaker 1: any probable cause or search warrants where they can just
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  Speaker 1: go to my bank and say, hey, if any of
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  Speaker 1: these things are there.
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  Speaker 2: We want to know about it.
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  Speaker 3: Look, this is an enormous abuse of power. It is
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  Speaker 3: an enormous violation of the privacy of Americans. This happened
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  Speaker 3: the House Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan released the documents that
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  Speaker 3: they got from the Treasury Department. And this all happened
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  Speaker 3: after January sixth, twenty twenty one. So after January sixth,
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  Speaker 3: you had Joe Biden in power, and these zealots said,
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  Speaker 3: we are going to target our political enemies. We have
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  Speaker 3: the entire federal government as a weapon. We are going
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  Speaker 3: to go after them. And this was driven by the
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  Speaker 3: Treasury Department's Office of Stakeholder Integration and Engagement in the
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  Speaker 3: Strategic Operations of the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, And it's
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  Speaker 3: called Finnsen is the acronym, and it distributed materials to
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  Speaker 3: financial institutions that outlined quote typologies of quote various persons
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  Speaker 3: of interest. Now, those typologies included anyone using the term Trump,
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  Speaker 3: anyone using the term MAGA. And they said, these are
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  Speaker 3: people more likely to be quote loan actor, homegrown violent extremists.
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  Speaker 3: But they and according to the Judiciary Committee's analysis, finn
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  Speaker 3: Send wanted this is a quote Finnsend wanted financial institutions
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  Speaker 3: of extremism indicators that include transportation charges such as bus tickets,
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  Speaker 3: rental cars, plane tickets for travel areas with noparent purpose,
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  Speaker 3: or the purchase of books, including religious texts and subscriptions
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  Speaker 3: to other media containing extremist views. Now what kind of
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  Speaker 3: religious books. Well, among them was the Bible. If you
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  Speaker 3: went and bought the Bible, the Biden Treasury Department was
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  Speaker 3: reporting that, Okay, we think you're in danger of being
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  Speaker 3: a terrorist because you purchased the Bible. So if you
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  Speaker 3: had any financial transaction that included the word Trump or maga,
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  Speaker 3: they thought you were in danger of being a terrorist.
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  Speaker 3: If you bought the Bible, you were in danger being
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  Speaker 3: the terrorist. And they also instructed financial institution to query
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  Speaker 3: transactions using certain codes like small arms and that that
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  Speaker 3: is an MCC code of three four eight four, or
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  Speaker 3: sporting and recreational goods in supply that's an MCC code
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  Speaker 3: of five zero nine to one, and the keywords and
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  Speaker 3: this is what Treasury specified Cabbella's, Dick Sporting's Goods, and
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  Speaker 3: Bass Pro Shop. And I'll point out Dick Sporting good
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of all the Democrat efforts to engage
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  Speaker 3: in gun control came out rather loudly against the Second Amendment.
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  Speaker 3: So as for me, I don't go to dick Sportings Goods,
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  Speaker 3: but bass Pro shops and Cabela's are both fantastic institutions,
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  Speaker 3: and if you shop there, the Biden administration wanted to
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  Speaker 3: know because if you go to bass Pro shops, they
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  Speaker 3: think you're a likely terrorist. It's it's outrageous.
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  Speaker 1: It's also I think shocking how easily people were giving
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  Speaker 1: up this information. Why is it that we now find
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  Speaker 1: out that so many businesses are willing to just say
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  Speaker 1: here's everything when they're asked, not say hey, we'd get
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  Speaker 1: a warrant for this or show me some actual paperwork.
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  Speaker 1: It seems that almost all of these companies are complicit,
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  Speaker 1: saying we're more than happy to help you invade on
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  Speaker 1: the privacy of our customers. From a standpoint you just
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  Speaker 1: mentioned of Dick's Sporting Goods. When I look at companies
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  Speaker 1: that do this, I say I'm never wanting to go
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  Speaker 1: there again, certainly not with a credit card, yeap.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not clear that the retailers were engaged in
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  Speaker 3: this process. So it's not clear that Cabela's, are Dick
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  Speaker 3: Sporting Good or Best Pro shops were participating. This was
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  Speaker 3: directed at banks, and listen, banks. Banks are massively regulated
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  Speaker 3: by the federal government. They are dealing literally every day
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  Speaker 3: with their federal regulators. The federal government has enormous power
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  Speaker 3: over banks, and so I understand from a bank's perspective
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  Speaker 3: is Treasury is leaning on them and saying we want
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  Speaker 3: this information. The federal government has the ability to shut
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  Speaker 3: down a bank, to destroy a bank's business if they
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  Speaker 3: disagree with you, and so it is an area where
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  Speaker 3: for big state leftists that want to know everything about
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  Speaker 3: your personal life. Banks are a real vulnerability because every
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  Speaker 3: one of us, if you're dealing with modern life, if
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  Speaker 3: you're depositing a paycheck in your bank account, if you're
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  Speaker 3: paying your bills with a bank account, if you have
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  Speaker 3: a credit card, your financial records detail what you're spending
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  Speaker 3: money on. And by the way, the left, just like
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  Speaker 3: communist China, wants to know every single thing you spend
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  Speaker 3: money on. You know, one of the very first versions
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  Speaker 3: of the Build Back Broke bill, they called it Build
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  Speaker 3: back Better, but I think build Back Broke defined it
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  Speaker 3: more accurately. One of the earliest versions required banks to
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  Speaker 3: report to the federal government. So if you're making a
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  Speaker 3: car payment, if you're making a rent payment, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're not quite there, but we're not far away from.
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  Speaker 3: If you're filling up your tank with gas, you had
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  Speaker 3: to report to the federal government. And for leftist Elizabeth
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  Speaker 3: Warren and President she and China both want to know
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  Speaker 3: every single thing you spend a penny on. And this
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  Speaker 3: is an example of the Treasury Department. Janet Yellen, you
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  Speaker 3: know George Orwell's nineteen eighty four talked about big brother.
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  Speaker 3: Janet Yellen is perfectly happy to be big sister and
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  Speaker 3: try to gather as much information about your personal financial
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  Speaker 3: transactions as humanly possible.
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  Speaker 1: What will the outcome be of this, I guess you
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  Speaker 1: could say new investigation. And is there any way to
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  Speaker 1: stop this from happening in the future or as long
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  Speaker 1: as the Biden administration's in power, can they continue to
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  Speaker 1: get away with this abuse of power?
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, we can have congressional oversight, and we will
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  Speaker 3: and the House will engage in it because the House
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  Speaker 3: has a majority, and so they can hold hearings in
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  Speaker 3: the Senate. No doubt Democrat cares so in the Senate,
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  Speaker 3: we will not have a single hearing on this. Why
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  Speaker 3: because the consequence of having a majority in the Senate
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  Speaker 3: is whoever as the majority has the committee chairman. So
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  Speaker 3: I am the ranking member on the Senate Commerce Committee.
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  Speaker 3: That means I'm the senior Republican on the Senate Committee
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  Speaker 3: on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. That's a committee that has
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  Speaker 3: jurisdiction over forty percent of the US economy. It's an
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  Speaker 3: enormously consequential committee. As the ranking member, I have the
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  Speaker 3: ability to fight hard for jobs and economic growth in
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  Speaker 3: the state of Texas, and I do that and across
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  Speaker 3: the country, and I do that every day. But what
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  Speaker 3: I don't have the ability to do is I can't
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  Speaker 3: convene a hearing. Only the chairman can convene a hearing.
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  Speaker 3: So in the Senate, there is literally not a single
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  Speaker 3: Democrat that gives a dam that the Biden administration is
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  Speaker 3: violating your privacy by engaging in the searches. Because they
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  Speaker 3: all of them, they hate Donald Trump so much that
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  Speaker 3: they've been radicalized and they believe it's perfectly justify viable
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  Speaker 3: to weaponize the federal government. So you ask, what can
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  Speaker 3: Congress do? Look, if we had control of both bodies,
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  Speaker 3: we could pass legislation to stop this. Under a Chuck
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  Speaker 3: Schumer Democrat Senate, They're not going to pass legislation to
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  Speaker 3: stop it. No Democrat will support it. So that means
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  Speaker 3: we can do oversight. I can write letters, I can
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  Speaker 3: give speeches, I can shine a light on it. I
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  Speaker 3: can do this podcast. But I can't convene a hearing
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  Speaker 3: of the Judiciary Committee because Dick Durbin, the chairman, won't
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  Speaker 3: do it. I can't pass legislation because no Democrat will
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  Speaker 3: support it. And so at this point, elections have consequences,
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  Speaker 3: and as long as we're in the minority, what I'm
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  Speaker 3: limited to be able to do on something like this
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  Speaker 3: an abuse of power of the Biden administration is shine
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  Speaker 3: a light and do everything I can to encourage the
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  Speaker 3: American people to be outraged at this and hold their
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  Speaker 3: elected officials accountable for violating their privacy.
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  Speaker 1: New documents obtained by the Selection Committee on the Weaponization
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  Speaker 1: of the Federal Government confirm that the federal government, your government,
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  Speaker 1: was spying on you if you were using terms like
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  Speaker 1: maga or trump, that's right, those two words could then
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  Speaker 1: get you monitored by your government. They use those words
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  Speaker 1: and sent them to financial institutions in America to spy
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  Speaker 1: on Americans, saying if people were using those phrases when
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  Speaker 1: completing transactions that dealt with finances like Venmo or zell
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  Speaker 1: or anything like that, Individuals who shopped at stores also
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  Speaker 1: like Cabellas or Dick Sporting Goods, or purchased religious texts,
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  Speaker 1: including the Bible, may also have had their transactions flagged
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  Speaker 1: by those financial institutions and then given to the United
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  Speaker 1: States of America's government to then look at you as
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  Speaker 1: a possible domestic tarant Yes, this kind of financial surveillance
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  Speaker 1: carried out in coordination with and at the requests of
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  Speaker 1: federal law enforcement into Americans' private transactions is also raising
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  Speaker 1: alarms and serious concerns about the FBI's respect for fundamental
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  Speaker 1: civil liberties in this country.
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  Speaker 2: How did all this even happen?
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  Speaker 1: This now coming from the House of Representative Judiciary Committee
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  Speaker 1: Chairman Jim Jordan, who is blowing the whistle on this, saying,
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  Speaker 1: in light of these revelations, Jim Jordan has now officially
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  Speaker 1: requested transcribed interviews with Peter Sullivan. He's the senior private
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  Speaker 1: sector partner for Outreach and the Strategic Partner Engagement Section
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  Speaker 1: of the FBI, and Noah Bissoff, former Director of the
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  Speaker 1: Office of Stakeholder Integration and Engagement in the Strategic Operations
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  Speaker 1: Division of the Financial Crimes and Enforcement Network. The Committee
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  Speaker 1: and the Select Subcommittee have obtained documents, he says, indicating
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  Speaker 1: that following January sixth, twenty twenty one, there was distributed
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  Speaker 1: materials to financial institutions that, among other things, outline these
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  Speaker 1: types of various people of interests and provide financial institutions
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  Speaker 1: with suggested search terms and merchant category codes. I want
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  Speaker 1: you to hear exactly what Jim Jordan had to say
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  Speaker 1: to Sean Hannity about this spye on you the American people.
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  Speaker 4: All right, turning down to a very disturbing report from
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  Speaker 4: Jim Jordan. Now get this, Apparently, federal investigators, we're asking
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  Speaker 4: banks to search the personal transactions of individual Americans for.
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  Speaker 5: Terms like trump and MAGA.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for also asking to use merchant category codes to
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  Speaker 4: identify potentially suspicious transactions. And what transactions did Treasury think
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  Speaker 4: were so suspicious? Small arms sporting recreational goods. In other words,
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  Speaker 4: if you go to stores like Dick's Sporting Goods and
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  Speaker 4: Bass pro shops. By the way, I got my boots
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  Speaker 4: for Iowa at Dick's Sporting Goods.
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  Speaker 5: Thank god for instacart.
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  Speaker 4: If you are a law abiding American who legally purchased
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  Speaker 4: a gun after twenty twenty one, your government thought you
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  Speaker 4: needed to be monitored. Now sources are telling Fox News
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  Speaker 4: Digital tonight that the impetus for this very serious invasion
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  Speaker 4: of privacy was, of.
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  Speaker 5: Course, none other than January sixth.
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  Speaker 4: These revelations should scare every single American. You want to
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  Speaker 4: talk about privacy, constitutional rights or do you want to
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  Speaker 4: live in an Orwellian knightwear nightmare with big Brother? Here
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  Speaker 4: was the latest on all of this. House Judiciary Committee
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  Speaker 4: Chairman Jim Jordan. I want to understand this. Tell me
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  Speaker 4: what they did here, because do we not have privacy
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  Speaker 4: and more in America? Is this not a constitutional violation?
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  Speaker 4: Unreasonable search and seizure?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Now, in the last year's song, we've exposed the
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  Speaker 6: censorship where you had big government, big tech, big media,
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  Speaker 6: big academia working to censor Americans. Now we have financial
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  Speaker 6: surveillance where it's big government working with big banks, big
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  Speaker 6: corporations to surveil, to spile on Americans.
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  Speaker 5: And so it was big banks looking.
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  Speaker 6: And searching private transactions using key terms at the suggestion
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  Speaker 6: of the federal government to find out what you're buying,
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  Speaker 6: what you're spending your money on. Scary stuff. All it
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  Speaker 6: looks like, without any warrant, without any legal process, they
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  Speaker 6: undertook this as a way to identify domestic violent extremists.
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  Speaker 5: And here here's here's what it sounds a lot like.
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  Speaker 6: Remember that memorandum in Richmond about pro life Catholics are
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  Speaker 6: extremists because they go to church and their pro life
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  Speaker 6: when they talk about, you know, protecting humans. That's exactly
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  Speaker 6: what these documents sound like. We're right on the on
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  Speaker 6: the front edge of this. We'll see how it all progresses.
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  Speaker 6: But it's scary stuff. It's financial surveillance of the American people.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's really just take a moment and dissect what
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  Speaker 1: Jim Jordan just said. Not only did the federal government
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  Speaker 1: give to financial institutions a hit list of people that
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to go after, they gave them the exact
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  Speaker 1: words that they think make you a threat to our democracy.
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  Speaker 1: Because this list was about being a threat to our democracy.
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  Speaker 1: And the words that they use the ones that we
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  Speaker 1: obviously could see at the beginning like maga, right and Trump,
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  Speaker 1: those are words that are associate you, associating you with
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  Speaker 1: conservative values. Right, you are public enemy number one to
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  Speaker 1: the left if you voted for Donald Trump, if you
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  Speaker 1: are a make America great Again conservative, and those actually
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  Speaker 1: make a little more sense to me. I would expect
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  Speaker 1: them to use those types of words to then discriminate
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  Speaker 1: and take away our heights and our protections from our constitution.
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  Speaker 1: They believe that if you voted for Donald Trump, that
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  Speaker 1: you should be treated like a terrorist, a domestic terrorist specifically.
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  Speaker 1: How do we know this because they've said that. Remember
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  Speaker 1: this is the same group of people that believe that
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  Speaker 1: you should be unprogrammed, right, you should go to a
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  Speaker 1: deprogramming camp. That was their words. In fact, that was
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  Speaker 1: something that was talked about by so many in the media.
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  Speaker 1: It was something that was said a lot, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: to the point where we were able to put together
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  Speaker 1: an entire montage about why Trump's supporters should in fact
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  Speaker 1: be d programmed.
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  Speaker 2: Take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 7: Sadly, so many of those extremists, those mega extremists, take.
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  Speaker 8: Their marching orders from Donald Trump, and.
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  Speaker 2: When do they break with him?
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  Speaker 7: You know, because at some point, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe they're to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members.
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  Speaker 4: Terms being tossed around like deprogramming Trump followers.
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  Speaker 9: All of America needs deprogramming because we've all been negatively
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  Speaker 9: influenced by Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 7: Can't sit down with people that don't recognize there was
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  Speaker 7: an insurrection or theygan alluded the other day to the
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  Speaker 7: deprogramming that Katie Kirk talked about.
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  Speaker 10: Deprogramming that might work in other cases. It's obviously proven
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  Speaker 10: to be difficult.
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  Speaker 8: But many of them have allowed the lies really to
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  Speaker 8: seep into their soul and it's beginning to rot their minds.
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  Speaker 11: Taking it even a step further, Raskin told The New
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  Speaker 11: York Times that he's ordered books about Culton deprogramming to
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  Speaker 11: try to understand his Republican colleagues.
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  Speaker 10: There are a couple accounts lives of TikTok, a few
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: really prominent anti transit sort of far right activists who
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: started to essentially make the argument that any exposure to
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  Speaker 10: children about LGBT people is automatically grooming.
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  Speaker 12: It seems to be invol Anti ga trolls explain how.
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  Speaker 10: Just lives of TikTok with this guy James lindsay. They
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  Speaker 10: would say, Hey, there's going to be something at this library.
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  Speaker 5: You know that they're going to read books.
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  Speaker 2: You know a dragon is going to come and read books.
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  Speaker 2: How do you fix it?
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  Speaker 5: How do you want to do it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, at this point, you know it's deprogramming.
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  Speaker 8: That's what we're being fed. People of other races are
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  Speaker 8: out to get you. We accept that. We get fed that,
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  Speaker 8: and so when that doorbell rings or the basketball comes
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  Speaker 8: into your yard, your first response is to pull that gun.
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  Speaker 8: It's a programming that's occurring. The deprogramming question is much
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: tougher to answer.
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  Speaker 7: People have literally been brainwashed, and it's scary by the
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: myths and disinformation that is online that is being the
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: propaganda on Fox News. It is another epidemic that our
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: country is facing. And until we really hold platforms accountable,
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  Speaker 7: until we really do some deprogramming.
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  Speaker 9: And anyone like him that says the presses the enemy
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  Speaker 9: of the people, that's what Harbard would say, That's what
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  Speaker 9: Moon said.
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  Speaker 8: If you say this as a cult, what's the first
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  Speaker 8: step of deprogramming?
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  Speaker 9: The first step with anyone who's a true believer is
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: contact with people that are outside the bubble.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I was just trying to engage in a
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  Speaker 8: little deprogramming with all of these myths about COVID nineteen.
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  Speaker 12: Is there any convincing those people that they're not living
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  Speaker 12: in a world of reality or fact?
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  Speaker 13: Now, listen, if there was a deprogramming pill that I
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  Speaker 13: could put in everybody stocking for Christmas, I would do.
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  Speaker 13: It's because of Facebook. It's gotten out into wine moms
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  Speaker 13: and yoga groups and some maybe that's something that started
• 23:35
  Speaker 13: as innocuous online that turns into something completely different, Brian,
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  Speaker 13: And that's part of the challenges you write of deprogramming it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: We have issues that are going to take a long
• 23:46
  Speaker 11: time to root out, and it's really about deprogramming. People
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  Speaker 11: have been listening to stuff coming from Marjorie Taylor Green
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: and other big social influencers, and that includes the President.
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  Speaker 8: I hope deprogramming some people, one person at a time.
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  Speaker 6: They just need a little bit of app You know,
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  Speaker 6: I spent a lot of time reading.
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  Speaker 12: That deprogramming, deprogramming, deprogram you're reading my mind. Yeah, I
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: see a lot of that happeningly.
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  Speaker 5: No, you don't need to be deprogrammed.
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  Speaker 12: You look pretty No, no, no, I'm not talking about me.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: But this is what they think of you. And not
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: only do they think you need to be deprogrammed, but
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: they also think that your financial transactions must be investigated
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: if you use words like maga and trump. And we
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: know this for a fact. Now it's not just the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: terms maga in trump that we're getting flagged by the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: government and financial institutions were turning in Americans obviously that
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: use the words maga and trump. But what else was flagged?
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  Speaker 1: Religious texts And this is even outside of maga and
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  Speaker 1: trump world.
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  Speaker 2: If you bought a religious text.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Or a Bible, yes, a Bible or a Bible study book,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and you use the word Bible, that would flag you
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in the these category codes identifying transactions on behalf of
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the federal government by banking institutions. And they said these
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: are terms that they wanted to search in Zell payments.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: For example, they wanted to see if anybody that bought
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: a Bible or a Bible study book or anything like
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that and had that term in the payment would then
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: be looked at as a homegrown violent extremist indicator. So
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: buying a book or reimburse somebody for Bible study, right,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and let's say you were in a Bible study or
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and somebody bought all the Bible study books and you
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: reimbursed somebody and had that in the ZELL and the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: word Bible appeared. Bam, You're now in the government's watch list.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Not only that, but it wasn't just words like the Bible,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: it was also where you shopped. You heard Jim Jordan
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: mention earlier in that audio I played to Sean Hannity
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: about what word could get you busted, like bass pro
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: or Cabella's.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Imagine you go hunting.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Imagine you have a friend that picks up for you
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: something at academy sports and then you have a transaction
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: in there. I've had this happen many times where I'd
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: have a friend that would be going there. But yeah,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: grab me this right, you're doing a weekend guys trip,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: or maybe you've got your kid that's on a team
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: that you know with other kids. And so it would
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: be a Christian school, right, so it may be reimbursement
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: for ZELL that would say my son's school name basketball,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: but it would have Dick's Sporting Goods in there, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: it would have the name of the school, the religious school,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: which would have a religious name in at BAM. Now
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  Speaker 1: you're on a list. This is not just an invasion
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: of privacy. I want to be very clear about that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: This is a shocking abuse of power to spy on you.
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  Speaker 1: This should not I want to be clear, be okay,
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  Speaker 1: this should not be something that we say, Wow, I've
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: got nothing to hide, so therefore I'm not worried about
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: it moment. This should be a moment that should enrage you.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is because this
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  Speaker 1: is what happens in socialists and communist countries. In the
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: United States of America, our constitution says you're not supposed
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to be able to do that. I'm gonna say that again.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: In our country. You're not supposed to be able to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: monitor the financial transactions of a person because they bought
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: a Bible or went shopping at a sporting goods store,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: or they use a word like maga. That is not
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: something that you're supposed to be able to do. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: yet that's exactly what the government was doing without a warrant.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: There was no judge involved here, There was no probable cause.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: This was a straight up fishing expedition to turn you
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: into an extremist domestic terrorist and That is exactly what
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the left is trying to do here. They're trying to
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: create a narrative in this country that if you vote
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, you're a threat to society. If you
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: vote for Donald Trump this go around, you need to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: be deprogrammed, and your financial transactions need to be looked
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: at by the way. I know people that went to
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: January the sixth. I know people that were there that
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: did not go into the Capitol. I know people that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: were there that went there peacefully. I know people that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: went there that absolutely did not break any laws. Should
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: they be treated like a domestic terrorist? Should they be
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: treated like they are some sort of threat to the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: United States of America.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: And let's be also clear about this.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: They do not believe And when I say they, I'm
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: talking about the Biden administration, the FBI and these scumbags
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that went down this road and did this. They Okay,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I want to say, I'll say it again. They don't
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: believe you're actually a threat. They want to lock you
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: up because you are a threat to their power. They
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: don't believe you're a threat to this country. You are
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a threat to their power. That's why they're treating you
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: like you're a terrorist. That's why they want to put
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: you on a list. They're not actually worried about you
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: doing something wrong. They're worried about you doing something right.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: They're worried about you getting involved in the process. They're
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: worried about you voting. They're worried about you exposing their corruption.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Let me remind you about parents, parents who went to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: school board meetings. Do you remember what happened to parents
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that went to school board meetings? The FBI put them
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: on a list and then they lied about it to
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: try to cover it up. And that list was if
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you were a parent that went to a school board
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: meeting to voice your frustrations about the indoctrination of your children,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: things that had nothing to do with an education, had
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with the reading, writing, and arithmetic, to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: voice your concerns about transgender bathrooms and the assault of
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: young girls in those bathrooms of the hands of men.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: You are to be treated like a domestic terrorist. You
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: are to be put on a list like you are
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a domestic terrorist. This is the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And I will also say this, and I've said this before,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and I hope you're understanding now just how accurate.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: It is is dead.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: For all intents and purposes, The Democratic Party is dead.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: They are masquerading like they are Democrats, when in reality
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: what they actually are are socialists, communists, and Marxists. The
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Democratic Party of Bill Clinton's years is over. It is gone, folks,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: It does not exist. I'll be honest with you, Bill Clinton,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: he would have never done this. And the reason why
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: is because I think even Bill Clinton, when he was
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the president of nineteen nineties, knew you couldn't get away
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: with this and it was against the United States of
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: America's constitution and against the rights of the people.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Notice I didn't say Hillary Clinton wouldn't do this.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I absolutely believe Hillary Clinton would do this and go
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: much further than this.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: She's just like Barack Obama. She's just like Joe Biden.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: But there are many other Democrats back in the day
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: that would have never even tried this because they would
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: have said this is wrong. You don't lock up your
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: political opponents this way. And if you think things aren't
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: coming unhinged, look at just another example that happened in
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours. There was an elected official
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that was arrested by the police because she was criticizing
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the sheriff in the town, and she said, what are
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: you doing? And they arrested her. They arrested her because
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: she is an elected official was holding the sheriff accountable
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: and criticizing the sheriff, and the sheriff said, no, no, you
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: can't do that. You can't criticize me. I'm going to
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: arrest you. At this meeting. There are people right now
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: that are so power hungry and drunk, and they're realizing
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: now that you can pretty much get away with whatever
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the hell you want to get away with if you're
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: willing to just break the law and the other questions,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: who's going to stop you? Not this Department of Justice.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: If you're on their team. Make sure you share this
• 32:20
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• 32:23
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