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Spying on Senators, Cruz, Grassley, Johnson, Biden's Political Hit List · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Senaer Chuck Grassley, the Republican from Iowa, has now released
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety seven subpoenas that the Biden administration's
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  Speaker 1: FBI used to seek testimony and documents related to hundreds
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: of Republicans and GOP entities as part of the bureau's
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Arctic Frost probe. The prosecutor to former Special Council Jack
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  Speaker 1: Smith's election investigation, which now is in essence a hit list,
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  Speaker 1: a target list, a black book of influential conservatives and
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  Speaker 1: members of Congress who they wanted to target. Arctic Frost
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  Speaker 1: was the vehicle by which partisan FBI agents, Chuck Grassley said,
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  Speaker 1: and DOJ prosecutors could improperly investigate the entire Republican political apparatus.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to hear Execs exactly what Chuck Grause
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  Speaker 1: had to say at.
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  Speaker 2: This press conference.
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  Speaker 1: It is shocking, and now we know just how corrupt
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  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party was under the Biden administration.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit of history before I get to what
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  Speaker 3: we're releasing today. I started the investigation into Arctic Frost
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  Speaker 3: July twenty twenty two based.
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  Speaker 4: On whistleblower disclosures.
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  Speaker 3: Based on these disclosures, we know that weaponized taxpayer funded
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  Speaker 3: agents and prosecutors advanced the investigation. As Arctic Frost advanced,
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  Speaker 3: ninety two Republican organizations or individuals were targeted, not just Trump,
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  Speaker 3: and they were added to its scope. And author of
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  Speaker 3: that targeting list was Special Agent wash and Walter Jaredino.
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  Speaker 3: He's the same weaponized agent who was involved in other
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  Speaker 3: cases against Republicans, including Peter Navarro. We've learned Jack Smith
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  Speaker 3: secretly obtained phone record data from at least eight senators
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  Speaker 3: and one Congressman. I've recently been informed by Verizon that
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  Speaker 3: at least eleven members with Verizon accounts were affected. That
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  Speaker 3: includes a hardline for Senator Cruz's office and a staffer
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  Speaker 3: sell phone for former Senator Leffler At and T inform me.
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  Speaker 3: They challenged the legal basis for Jack Smith's efforts and
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  Speaker 3: Smith back down. So today we're making public new records
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  Speaker 3: that I've attained through legally protected whistleblower disclosures. One hundred
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  Speaker 3: and ninety seven subpoenas were issued by Jack Smith and
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  Speaker 3: his team. These subpoenas were issued to thirty four individuals
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  Speaker 3: and one hundred and sixty three businesses, including financial institutions
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  Speaker 3: and One of the points of contact on many of
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  Speaker 3: these subpoenas was that person I previously named Special Agent
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  Speaker 3: Walter Geardino. The subpoena requested records and communications related to
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  Speaker 3: over four hundred and thirty individual and organizations, all of
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  Speaker 3: them appear to be aimed at Republicans. A subpoena to
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  Speaker 3: Event Strategies requested records relating to Turning Point USA and
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  Speaker 3: the Republican Attorney General's Association. One subpoena to Apple sought
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  Speaker 3: records relating to Trump and the January sixth prison choir.
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  Speaker 3: Earlier this year, I obtained emails between and among JP Cooney,
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  Speaker 3: one of Jack Smith's prosecutors. That email exchange was March
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty three about a partisan news article on January
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  Speaker 3: six and this is what Cooney said in the email.
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  Speaker 3: Can we do some work to nail down Trump's role
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  Speaker 3: in this, perhaps with the same process on Ed Henry's LLCT.
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  Speaker 1: You look at what Chuck Grassley is talking about here,
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  Speaker 1: and it's truly incredible. What he's describing is the Democratic
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  Speaker 1: Party saying we are going to use our DOJ, the FBI,
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  Speaker 1: thisa whoever, we need to open up investigations and then
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  Speaker 1: go out and attack our political enemies. Now, this is
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  Speaker 1: a direct contradictory statement of facts to what Smith had
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  Speaker 1: said publicly. This was clearly a phishing expedition. Grassley went
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  Speaker 1: on to say, standing alongside Grassley center Ron Johnson, he
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  Speaker 1: called the subpoenas nothing short of a Biden administration enemies list.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to Johnson in his own.
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  Speaker 5: Words, I think it's important to note that the records
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  Speaker 5: that we are now making public in the personal Transparency
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  Speaker 5: were not obtained from the agency. They were obtained through
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  Speaker 5: a whistleblower. So our first point is we need more whistleblowers.
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  Speaker 5: We need people men and women inside these agencies who
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  Speaker 5: have integrity, who want to see the integrity incredibility of
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  Speaker 5: the Department Justice of the FBI restored. Come forward because
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  Speaker 5: right now I think cash for tail Pam BONDI are
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  Speaker 5: overwhelmed by all the messages they're trying to clean up.
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  Speaker 5: The agencies have been lost a lot of personnel. People
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  Speaker 5: simply couldn't serve the Trump administration. It's hard to hire
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  Speaker 5: people because of all the lawfare, and they're still partisan
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  Speaker 5: actors burrowed in trying to sabotage their efforts.
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  Speaker 4: So we need whistleblowers.
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  Speaker 5: The reason they come forward to Chairman Grassley is because
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  Speaker 5: he's been such a champion of whistleblowers, So again I
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  Speaker 5: thank him for that. What is revealed in those seventeen
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  Speaker 5: hundred pages of documents, in those one hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 5: seven subpoenas, is nothing short of a Biden administration enemies list.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm old enough to understand how toxic a
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  Speaker 5: term that was under Richard Nixon. This is far worse,
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  Speaker 5: far worse orders the magnitude worse. People need to understand
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  Speaker 5: how politicized the Biden ministration turned all these agencies. And again,
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  Speaker 5: the best way to describe President Biden's attitude his exact quotes.
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  Speaker 5: He thought, basically half America were domestic terrorists. In September
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, in front of Indpenn's Hall, he said
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump and the Magan Republicans represent an extremism that
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  Speaker 5: threatens the very foundation of our republic. A year later,
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  Speaker 5: in New York City, Donald Trump is mega Republicans are
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  Speaker 5: determined to destroy American democracy. Now, nothing could be further
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  Speaker 5: from the truth. That is a level of paranoia that's
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  Speaker 5: actually astonishing, but the fact that thirty eight Wisconsinites are
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  Speaker 5: on that enemy's list.
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  Speaker 4: I know most of those individuals.
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  Speaker 5: They are god fearing, country loving law law, law enforcement
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  Speaker 5: supporting people who want to see America succeed. The fact
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  Speaker 5: that they are on a Biden administration enemies list, we're
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  Speaker 5: targeted by that administration is outrageous. It should shock every
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  Speaker 5: American and so I am calling on and I appreciate
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  Speaker 5: all the members of the Jitiary Committee. We need to
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  Speaker 5: get to the bottom of this.
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  Speaker 4: We need to do everything we can.
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  Speaker 5: To assist Director Patel and ag Bondi in making sure
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  Speaker 5: that they have the staff to take control of these agencies,
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  Speaker 5: that they're the heads of them. I don't think they
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  Speaker 5: have the control. I think they're being sabotaged within. But
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  Speaker 5: the American people need to understand exactly what happened. And
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  Speaker 5: again I'm calling on members of the Juiciary Committee to
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  Speaker 5: help send a grass in myself get to the bottom
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  Speaker 5: of this, so we can expose this so this doesn't
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  Speaker 5: happen again in America.
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  Speaker 4: This has to end.
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  Speaker 1: You can hear Johnson there obviously very angry about what
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  Speaker 1: he has witnessed and now the data that he has uncovered.
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  Speaker 1: This is a massive abuse of power by the Biden administration,
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  Speaker 1: and it attacked anyone they thought was their political enemy.
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  Speaker 1: There's also other members of Congress who were spied upon
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  Speaker 1: sitting members of Congress. One of them was Senator Ted Cruz.
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  Speaker 1: And I want you to hear what Senator Cruz said
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  Speaker 1: after he found out that his office phone in his
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  Speaker 1: actual office in the United States Senate building was tapped.
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  Speaker 1: Why because he was a Conservative? That was the crime.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen.
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  Speaker 6: Arctic Frost is Joe Biden's Watergate Merrick Garland was a
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  Speaker 6: fundamentally corrupt Attorney General. Jack Smith was a fundamentally corrupt prosecutor.
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  Speaker 6: This was a political enemies list from the beginning, one
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  Speaker 6: hundred and ninety seven subpoenas for four hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 6: Republican entities and individuals. That is an absolute and egregious
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  Speaker 6: abuse of power. The Biden Justice Department signed off on
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  Speaker 6: issuing subpoenas for the phone records of at least nine
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  Speaker 6: US senators, twenty percent of the Republicans in the United
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  Speaker 6: States Senate where the target of this fishing expedition. They
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  Speaker 6: did so in complete prevention of the Constitution of separation
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  Speaker 6: of powers of the speech and debate clause of free
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  Speaker 6: speech of basic rights of privacy. This is an executive
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  Speaker 6: who believes it is justified spying on their opponents in
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  Speaker 6: the legislature because they convinced themselves the ends justify the means.
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  Speaker 6: I want to talk to you about one of those subpoenas.
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  Speaker 6: One of those subpoenas went from Jack Smith to AT
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  Speaker 6: and T seeking my cell phone communications. It went to
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  Speaker 6: AT and T, and I actually want to commend AT
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  Speaker 6: and T for doing the right thing.
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  Speaker 4: AT and T is based in Texas.
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  Speaker 6: AT and T looked at that subpoena, and they went
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  Speaker 6: to their legal council and they said, what should we
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  Speaker 6: do with that subpoena? And their legal council said, you
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  Speaker 6: cannot comply because this is protected by the speech and
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  Speaker 6: debate clause of the US Constitution. And so AT and
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  Speaker 6: T declined to comply. Did not hand over my cell
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  Speaker 6: phone records. Now, one might ask, ordinarily a phone company
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  Speaker 6: being asked to hand over the phone records of a
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  Speaker 6: sitting senator would notify that senator. Well, there was a
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  Speaker 6: reason AT and T did not do so. Accompanying the
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  Speaker 6: subpoena was an order which I have in my hand
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  Speaker 6: right here. An order that was signed by Judge James E.
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  Speaker 4: Bosberg. Now, who is Boseburg.
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  Speaker 6: Boseburg is that radical leftist judge who is out of control,
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  Speaker 6: who has been issuing nationwide injunctions one after the other,
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  Speaker 6: trying to stop President Trump from carrying out his mandate
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  Speaker 6: from the voters. Judge Bosburg issued an order to the
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  Speaker 6: US to AT and T and sign that order prohibiting
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  Speaker 6: AT and T from informing me of this subpoena for
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  Speaker 6: at least one year. And Judge Bosburg gave the basis
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  Speaker 6: for that order. And I'm going to quote from the
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  Speaker 6: order Judge Boseburg signed. The Court finds reasonable grounds to
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  Speaker 6: believe that such disclosure will result in destruction of or
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  Speaker 6: tampering with evidence, intimidation of potential witnesses, and serious jeopardy
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  Speaker 6: to the investigation.
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  Speaker 4: That's an order a judge sign.
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  Speaker 6: Now, I can tell you right now there is precisely
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  Speaker 6: zero evidence to conclude that I am likely to destroy
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  Speaker 6: or tamper with evidence, or to intimidate potential witnesses, zero
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  Speaker 6: evidentiary basis for that. This order is an abusive power.
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  Speaker 6: This order is a weaponized legal system. My assumption we
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  Speaker 6: don't have the subpoenas that were issued for the other senators.
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  Speaker 6: But my assumption is Judge Boseburg printed these things out
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  Speaker 6: like the placemats at Denny's, one after the other. We
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  Speaker 6: don't know that for a fact, but I feel confident
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  Speaker 6: that he concluded it's likely that Lindsey Graham would destroy evidence,
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  Speaker 6: and Marsha Blackburn would destroy evidence, and Eric Schmidt would
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  Speaker 6: destroy evidence, and Chuck Grassley would destroy evidence. If a
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  Speaker 6: litigant makes a claim for which there is no factual basis,
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  Speaker 6: that litigant is subject to sanctions in federal court. And
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  Speaker 6: if a judge signs an order reaching a factual conclusion
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  Speaker 6: for which there is zero evidence whatsoever, that judge is
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  Speaker 6: abusing his power. I am right now calling on the
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  Speaker 6: House of Representatives to impeach Judge Boseburg. Judge Boseburg put
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  Speaker 6: his robe down, stood up, and said, sign me up
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  Speaker 6: to be part of the partisan vendetta against twenty percent
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  Speaker 6: of the Republicans in the Senate. That is a dereliction
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  Speaker 6: of duty and a vibe of the judicial oath.
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  Speaker 4: And I want to.
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  Speaker 6: Thank Chairman Grassley and Chairman Johnson for pursuing this tenaciously like.
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  Speaker 4: A dog on a bone.
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  Speaker 6: We are going to get the answers of every person
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  Speaker 6: who signed off on this abuse of power, and mark
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  Speaker 6: my words, there will be accountability for these zelots who
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  Speaker 6: wanted to corrupt the Department of Justice and corrupt the
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  Speaker 6: judiciary in order to try to attack their enemy's list.
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  Speaker 6: That is unconstitutional, it is ibmoral, and it is wrong.
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  Speaker 1: This is Biden's Watergate. I could not agree more with
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  Speaker 1: Senator Cruz when he said that earlier. I couldn't agree
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  Speaker 1: more with Senator Ron Johnson when he called the subpoenas
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  Speaker 1: nothing short of Biden's administration's enemies list. These subpoenas were
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  Speaker 1: non public for a reason. These subpoenas were confidential grand
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  Speaker 1: jury material the Grassy said he obtained through whistleblower disclosures.
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  Speaker 1: They were trying to hide this from the current administration.
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  Speaker 1: The subpoena sought certain communications with media companies as well.
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  Speaker 1: We've now learned that those media companies included Fox News Channel, CBS, Sinclair, Newsmax,
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  Speaker 1: and with members of aids in Congress also being put
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  Speaker 1: under the well phishing expedition, we also know they sought
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  Speaker 1: sweeping financial information from conservative entities as well. Those conservative entities.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted to use the federal governments to silence them,
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  Speaker 1: to shut them down. This was literally an enemy's list,
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  Speaker 1: and it was all disguised by the Democratic Party in quiet,
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  Speaker 1: privately to make sure that you and I never found it.
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  Speaker 1: It was also designed to make sure that people like
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  Speaker 1: Senator Cruz could not stop it when it was happening.
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  Speaker 1: And why did they not want them to know about it?
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  Speaker 1: Why did they lie and say that, well, these senators
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  Speaker 1: who they were spying on could not be trusted, that
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  Speaker 1: they might try to intimidate witnesses with no evidence to
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  Speaker 1: back that up. Because they knew if these senators found
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  Speaker 1: out about this, they would have the legal grounds to
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  Speaker 1: stop the Biden administration immediately. And that is exactly why
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  Speaker 1: they said, Okay, we are done. We will do it
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  Speaker 1: in silence, we will do it quietly. And they were
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  Speaker 1: betting on winning the next election so they'd never be
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  Speaker 1: held accountable for what they just did. And the massive
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  Speaker 1: abuse of power that they were in charge of. This
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  Speaker 1: was not legal in any way. This was corruption in
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  Speaker 1: every way, and now Donald Trump's administration has exposed it
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  Speaker 1: because of great men and women who have risked their
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  Speaker 1: careers as whistle blowers trusting the system. One of the
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  Speaker 1: things you heard there at the very beginning was Senator
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  Speaker 1: Grassley and Johnson talking about we need more whistleblowers to
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  Speaker 1: come forward, and whistleblowers that are witnessing now the protections
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  Speaker 1: they're receiving from the Trump administration are probably a thousand
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  Speaker 1: times more likely to come forward than they would have
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  Speaker 1: during the Biden era when they could clearly see just
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  Speaker 1: how corrupt they were as a administration. One final thing
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  Speaker 1: about this, I expect there is going to be even
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  Speaker 1: more bombshells to come forward, more corruption that will be unearthed.
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  Speaker 1: And as all of this corruption continues to be exposed,
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  Speaker 1: the question now is who will be held accountable for it.
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  Speaker 1: Will keep you updated on that, I can promise you.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get you an update on the government's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: shutdown because it's important. This shutdown that began at twelve
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  Speaker 1: oh one eight on October the first, is now over
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  Speaker 1: a month long. And there were different moments where there
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  Speaker 1: were well saying people that thought the shutdown would end.
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  Speaker 1: There were many that believe Democrats are holding out until
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  Speaker 1: last week's No King's rally to then open the government.
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  Speaker 1: Their psychological behavior is well unhinged, and no one really
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  Speaker 1: knows what's going to happen moving forward, even in the
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  Speaker 1: Democratic Party. But we are now on track to become
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  Speaker 1: the longest government shutdown in US history if it continues
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  Speaker 1: pass November fourth. Now, the Senate has voted to reopen
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  Speaker 1: the government and Democrats continue to block them. According to reporting,
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  Speaker 1: the Senate has rejected a bill to reopen the government,
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  Speaker 1: a stop gap continuing resolution, a clean cr that has
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  Speaker 1: now happened yet again, the procedural vote failing fifty one
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  Speaker 1: to forty five to advance the bill, which needs sixty votes.
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  Speaker 1: That means Democrats have to come along to overcome the filibuster.
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  Speaker 1: We have also seen Democrats now celebrating an essence Americans hurting.
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  Speaker 1: There have even been some Democrats and Republicans that have
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  Speaker 1: majority of Americans will be ignorant and just blame Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump for everything.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that brings us to the data.
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  Speaker 1: CNN's data guru, a guy by the name of Harry Hitten,
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  Speaker 1: was caught off guard to find what he described as
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  Speaker 1: a rare bright spot for Republicans during the government's shutdown.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, the polling numbers have improved for Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: because the American people are not as stupid as the
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  Speaker 1: Democrats were hoping. Take a listen to what they had
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  Speaker 1: to say with their new poll that has come out
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  Speaker 1: and the shock that actually Trump's numbers have improved and
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  Speaker 1: not gone down during the shutdown.
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  Speaker 7: One thing that might end a shutdown is political pain,
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  Speaker 7: if parties start to feel that it's hurting them. So
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  Speaker 7: let's talk about that. Starting with Republicans. How is the
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  Speaker 7: shutdown seem to have affected their political standing?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you might think, given that the Republicans are in
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  Speaker 8: charge of both the House and the Senate, that a
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  Speaker 8: government shutdown might actually hurt the Republican brand, but.
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  Speaker 2: In fact it hasn't.
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  Speaker 8: If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a
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  Speaker 8: look here the shift in net popularity versus pre shutdown
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  Speaker 8: among the g When we're looking at the Republican Party overall,
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  Speaker 8: that brand actually up two points. That's within the margin verraa.
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  Speaker 8: But clearly it hasn't dropped. Come over this side of
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  Speaker 8: the screen. Look at the net approval ratings for Republicans
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  Speaker 8: in Congress it's actually up five.
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  Speaker 4: Points since pre shutdown. So what we're seeing.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: Here is the Republican brand in Congress has actually improved
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  Speaker 8: somewhat compared to where we were pre shutdown, despite the
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: fact the Republicans control. And that's the mat that John
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: Thune and Mike Johnson are looking at, is Hey, why
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  Speaker 8: should we give an electorally speaking when our brand has
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: actually improved a little bit?
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: Now we say their position is getting better with whom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, with whom?
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  Speaker 8: So I think it's two groups that it's so important
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  Speaker 8: to keep them an eye out on. All right, change
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  Speaker 8: in the Republican Congresses and net approval rating versus pre shutdown.
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  Speaker 2: It's rallying the base for sure.
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  Speaker 8: Look at this, the net approval rating up twelve points
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  Speaker 8: versus pre shutdown. But it's not just with the base,
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: it's also with the middle of the electorate. Look at
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: this among independents it's up eight points as well. So
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: we've got a situation here where Republicans with this shutdown
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: are actually rallying their base. But it's also something that's
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: not hurting them with the folks in the middle of anything.
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  Speaker 8: It's helping them with folks in the mill And this
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  Speaker 8: is the type of math that if you're Republicans you
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: like to see, right, because something could rally the base
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: but alienate those in the middle, or something could rally
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: those in the middle but alienate the base.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: But the truth is we're not seeing that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: What we're seeing is the Republican brand has actually gotten
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: better among independents, and it's also gotten better among Republicans
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: as well, that Republican brand when it comes to those
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: in Congress. So again, what's the electoral reason that Republicans
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: were given at this point in Democrats?
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: Of course, they have their eyes on the midterm elections. Yeah,
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: we have elections one week from today, but what Democrats
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: in Congress are mostly focused on or one year in
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: one week from today from the midterms. So how do
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: Democrats how are they positioned right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: So, I mean, look the general congressional ballot, which traditionally
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: Democrats have done really well on. And if you look
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: at this point back when Trump was present the first
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: time around, Democrats are up eleven points.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Look at where it is now.
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: Democrats are head but they're actually only up three points.
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: This is, in fact, the worst position Democrats have been
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: on in a generic ballot at this point in midterm
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: when there was a Republican president in the last twenty years,
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: And this is no different from pre shutdown. So Republicans
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: aren't losing on this metric either. They become more popular
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: and they're actually in a pretty good position for them
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: historically when it comes to the generic congressional ballot.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: This is a concerning number for Democrats, if you're saying, this.
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: Is a concerning number for Democrats because it's considerably worse
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: than they traditionally do in midterm elections when there's a
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: Republican president.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Now, if Democrats were sane, they would hear these numbers
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: from CNN and say, Okay, it's time to end the shutdown.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: It's not going in our face. But you have to
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: understand that they want this shutdown to hurt They want
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: small businesses to be destroyed. In fact, Small Business Administrator
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Kelly Lefler just said this on Fox Business with Larry
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Kavlow about what the intended effects of the government shutdown
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: for the Democrats may actually be, and it's to put
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: you out of business.
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: Straight, you're here to tell me, I think that the
• 26:23
  Speaker 9: shutdowns killing small business. But Pardoner, this whole show is
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: very bullished. The stock market is booming, the economy is
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: growing close to four percent. How bad can it be
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: for small business? I mean the shutdown thing, you know whatever,
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: We should be pulling the trigger on those two point
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: zero and reduced spending. But really, you intind small business
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: is really hurting now.
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: Well, look, Larry, prior to this shutdown. As of September,
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: small business confidence hit a seven year high. Not since
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: President Trump's first term had small business felt so confident
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: in the economy. And that's all things to President Trump's
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: economic agenda, which by the way, is a supply side
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: agenda that I know you support. It's free and fair trade,
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: it's low taxes, it's deregulation, it's access to capital. And
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: because of their confidence in twenty twenty five, the fiscal
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: year we just wrapped up twenty seven days ago, the
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: SBA broke through a seventy two year lending record, surpassing
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: forty five billion to eighty five thousand small businesses across
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: this country because they believe in President Trump's economic agenda
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: of drill baby drill, making sure that we have the
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: supply chains we need in restoring American manufacturing they were
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: quite bullish heading into this shutdown. But look, this shutdown
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: is having the intended effect by the Democrats. They want
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: to hurt Main Street and that's what they're trying to
• 27:42
  Speaker 10: do right now.
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: Well, you make a the National Federation of the Independent
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: Business Survey, that may be what you're talking about. It
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: did drop. I mean it was one hundred point eight
• 27:54
  Speaker 9: in August. The last reading is ninety eight point eight
• 27:57
  Speaker 9: in September. Year ago was only ninety one point five.
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: But really, I mean with all the things in the
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: one big beautiful bill, and you're seeing a fabulous stock market.
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: Now these are small businesses, they're not necessarily publicly owned businesses,
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: but I you know, I think the future is very,
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: very bright. You have tremendous tax incentives in that bill.
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: Kelly Leffler, I mean, I want to shut down the
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: end two and I think the Democrats are all wrong,
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: and we're going to make fun of it in the
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: next segment. But the fact of the matter is the
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: ecomomy's booming and the stock market is telling us that,
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: and I you know, I want you to You've been
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: growing at four percent, three point nine percent in the
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: second and third quarters of going into the Atlanta FED.
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: That's pretty good, don't you think.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: You listen to Kudler there and what he's saying, as
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the government shut down drags into a month and it
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: could go to the longest shutdown in history, and yes,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the government shutdown is having the intended effects by Democrats.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: They want to shut down and hurt small business owners.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: They want you to not be able to pay for
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: food if you're on food stamps.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: They want you to suffer.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: So that then maybe you'll decide that somehow this shutdown,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: which is clearly the Democrat's fault and their plan, will
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: then somehow turn to you blaming the Republicans for it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: That is the key here for them. This is what
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: they want to happen. They want you to just get
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: so angry that you finally just say to Republicans, all right,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: screw it. Give the hostages the Democratic Party what they
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: demand so that I get whatever relief I want right now.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: One other thing about this government shutdown that I also
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: think is an important point to make. The Republicans seem
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to be doing a much better job of explaining this shutdown,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: why it's happening, and who's behind it than they have
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: done in the past. They seem to be much more
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: focused on explaining it, and the Erican people seem to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: understand it now better than they ever have before. A
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: lot of this goes back to what's happening this country.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: On another issue, law and order, the Republican Party has
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: an incredible job explaining why law and order is important,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: why we should make sure that the men and women
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: who are in this country illegally should be found and deported,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and how many criminal aliens there are. This subject right
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: now is literally no different than that. This subject is
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the same thing. You have a Democratic party that is
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: holding Americans hostage because they lost their power, and when
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: they lost their power, they decided this was the game
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: plan it is to hurt Americans and try to make
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you just beg for some sort of relief, even if
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: that means a terrible deal overall for the future of
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: this country and the American people, Which bring us to
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: looking forward, how long will the shutdown last? Honestly, when
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you're dealing with these types of people that are holding
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you hostage, there's no way to tell, there's no way
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to know, there's no way to know what they're going
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: to do next. And if they're going to listen to you.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: The one thing I can tell you is it's time
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: to start getting on the phone, calling your congressman, calling
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: your senators and explaining to them, if they're Republicans, you
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: stand with them, and if they're Democrats voting against reopening
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the government, that you're going to hold them accountable in
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the future. I do think the American people are understanding
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: one thing right now. The Democratic Party is not listening
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: to the American voters at all, and when they don't
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: get their way, their goal and objective is to go
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: rogue because they don't respect the laws or the will
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: of the American people.
• 31:55
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