Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Karimah Westbrook Full Interview
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- 1:07Speaker 1: I heart my next guest as an actress, writer and producer.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Shee right there. We are on the same line, but
- 1:13Speaker 1: she can actually just only active. I only have one
- 1:16Speaker 1: acting opportunity that I accepted. That was Jason's lyric. I
- 1:19Speaker 1: played Fast Freddy. That's my historical moment in acting, spending
- 1:23Speaker 1: nearly twenty years her career, spending nearly twenty years in television,
- 1:26Speaker 1: film and theater. When you do a theater you can act.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Just tell you that now theater you can act now
- 1:31Speaker 1: because usually especially when you start the early days of theater,
- 1:34Speaker 1: because people right sitting right next up to you. You know,
- 1:36Speaker 1: early theater, you know you can like to lean forward
- 1:39Speaker 1: and see you and touch your customers. Her latest project
- 1:42Speaker 1: includes To Set Up Your Drama All American, which is
- 1:45Speaker 1: based on a true story, starting the role of Grace James.
- 1:50Speaker 1: She's also start in the upcoming movie called Bolden, a
- 1:53Speaker 1: reimaged life story of the influential New Orleans music legend
- 1:57Speaker 1: Buddy Bolden, which we in theaters May three. But He's
- 2:00Speaker 1: welcome to money making conversations. Karema Westbrook, thank you for
- 2:06Speaker 1: having me. Oh she comes on with that. You know
- 2:08Speaker 1: that that great voice, gracious voice, I got the morning voice.
- 2:13Speaker 1: That's your voice here. I'm just going to say one thing.
- 2:18Speaker 1: All American is inspired by story, So not all the
- 2:23Speaker 1: details on the series is exactly true. And um, I
- 2:28Speaker 1: have a co star role in Embolden. I just don't
- 2:32Speaker 1: want to mislead people. They're going to go to the
- 2:33Speaker 1: movies and think I'm a lead and then they're gonna
- 2:35Speaker 1: watch all Americans think it's all true. Okay, okay, okay,
- 2:39Speaker 1: alrighty um. You know a lot of people think Black
- 2:42Speaker 1: Panther real. You know that they're looking for Wakanda. Just
- 2:48Speaker 1: let you know at the at the Delta they change
- 2:50Speaker 1: one of the one of the flight schedules to Wakanda.
- 2:53Speaker 1: You know that. You know that. So you know it's
- 2:57Speaker 1: who wants to know the truth will believe it to
- 2:59Speaker 1: be the truth. My whole thing is that you're absolutely right,
- 3:02Speaker 1: is inspired and so you have to say these things
- 3:04Speaker 1: so people want will sue you because that's my life.
- 3:08Speaker 1: They told that's me, that's that's really me. And there
- 3:11Speaker 1: that's my role you're lying. I need I need to check.
- 3:13Speaker 1: So that's why I used the word inspired. But more importantly,
- 3:16Speaker 1: your career has been inspired twenty years. So what did
- 3:19Speaker 1: you want? So I'm someone that you said, you're early
- 3:22Speaker 1: morning bars, You're on the West coast. Yes, okay. Usually
- 3:27Speaker 1: people thank you for getting up early to do my show.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Thank you? What did it all start? What did it
- 3:33Speaker 1: all start for you? Being inspired? What city? What state?
- 3:36Speaker 1: They said? You know, I want to do this for
- 3:38Speaker 1: a little Well. I was born and raised in Chicago,
- 3:44Speaker 1: and as a child, I've always been very active in
- 3:47Speaker 1: sports and in the arts. I did plays, um community
- 3:52Speaker 1: plays as a kid and end in school and I
- 3:56Speaker 1: I kind of went back and forth between um acting
- 4:00Speaker 1: in sports. I was very active in sports, and my
- 4:03Speaker 1: biggest influence growing up was Whoopi Goldberg, Like I love
- 4:07Speaker 1: Hippy Goldberg and it's so funny. As a kid, I
- 4:10Speaker 1: never realized that it was something that I could do professionally.
- 4:14Speaker 1: It always seemed so far away, even though I did
- 4:17Speaker 1: it to entertain. I did plays that I just never
- 4:19Speaker 1: really connected the docks, like, oh, you can actually earn
- 4:22Speaker 1: a living doing this until I was in my late teens,
- 4:27Speaker 1: and once I was done in high school, I started
- 4:31Speaker 1: to look at acting more seriously, trying to figure out exactly,
- 4:35Speaker 1: you know, how I could do it on a professional level.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Once I knew I could do it on a professional level,
- 4:40Speaker 1: and I started auditioning for still auditioning for plays in
- 4:43Speaker 1: Chicago independent films, and then there was excuse me, there
- 4:47Speaker 1: was a movie that came to Chicago call Saved the
- 4:51Speaker 1: Last Dance. There was a big production coming from Hollywood,
- 4:56Speaker 1: and at the at the time, I didn't have an agent,
- 4:59Speaker 1: but all the actor to that knew in Chicago was
- 5:01Speaker 1: talking about this movie. I got an audition, You got
- 5:04Speaker 1: an audition, You got an audition. I was like, oh
- 5:05Speaker 1: my god, I don't have an audition. And at the
- 5:08Speaker 1: time I only had a commercial agent. And so this
- 5:11Speaker 1: girl that I worked with and she was like, yeah,
- 5:13Speaker 1: I have an audition tomorrow for Stable as Dance. I
- 5:16Speaker 1: was like, oh, learn really what time? And then she
- 5:19Speaker 1: told me one time. I was like, oh, yeah, who's
- 5:20Speaker 1: doing the casting? Tell me who was doing the casting
- 5:23Speaker 1: where they were located. So sure enough, that very next
- 5:27Speaker 1: day I showed up at the audition and clearly they
- 5:30Speaker 1: were looking for a certain type and I was not
- 5:33Speaker 1: it so I stuck out like a sore thumb, and
- 5:36Speaker 1: the casting director she came out and she said, does
- 5:39Speaker 1: everybody here have an audition? That was clearly for me,
- 5:43Speaker 1: and um, you know, I kind of got up, like
- 5:45Speaker 1: can I talk to you for a minute, and so um,
- 5:49Speaker 1: I pulled over right and pull it over, but we
- 5:51Speaker 1: kind of walked over to the side, and I was like,
- 5:53Speaker 1: I don't have an audition, but I really really want
- 5:55Speaker 1: audition for this role. And she let me audition and
- 5:58Speaker 1: then I ended up getting the all back. And it
- 6:00Speaker 1: was the whole thing with my hair because I was
- 6:02Speaker 1: wearing my hair and natural back then, but they wanted
- 6:05Speaker 1: someone with long straight here. So I went through this
- 6:07Speaker 1: whole thing and trying to find a wig. I didn't
- 6:09Speaker 1: want to put a stew in in my head. Back then,
- 6:11Speaker 1: my wig was like a mop because back then it
- 6:14Speaker 1: was like Louis talking like almost twenty years ago. So
- 6:17Speaker 1: the wig like literally set up on top of my head.
- 6:20Speaker 1: It was look awful. But I went back. I had
- 6:23Speaker 1: to call back audition again. They called me back again,
- 6:27Speaker 1: and um, they wanted to be auditioned for a different
- 6:29Speaker 1: role and then call me back again. I met with
- 6:31Speaker 1: the director and then I got a part in the
- 6:34Speaker 1: movie and that was the start of me earning enough
- 6:37Speaker 1: money to move to California. And um, after I worked
- 6:43Speaker 1: on the film, I ended up moving to California and
- 6:49Speaker 1: the rest is kind of history. I mean, there was
- 6:51Speaker 1: a lot of different things in between that. You know.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I went to the Academy of Dramatic Arts one summer
- 6:56Speaker 1: for their summer program prior to that, and I knew that, uh,
- 7:00Speaker 1: I had to get back to California in order to
- 7:02Speaker 1: pursue a career in television and film. And so I've
- 7:07Speaker 1: always been very goal oriented. So I wrote out all
- 7:10Speaker 1: of my goals and what I want to do, and
- 7:12Speaker 1: it seemed like everything was like falling into place. Like
- 7:16Speaker 1: literally even from when I book say the Last Dance,
- 7:19Speaker 1: I remember meeting with the director Thomas Carter, and he
- 7:22Speaker 1: was like, so, what are your goals? And that was
- 7:24Speaker 1: like the perfect question for me because I had all
- 7:26Speaker 1: the answers. I was like, I want to get my
- 7:27Speaker 1: sad car, I want to want to get into Union,
- 7:29Speaker 1: I want to move to l A. I want to
- 7:31Speaker 1: be television you know. I had like this was long list.
- 7:33Speaker 1: I was like completely ready and um so after booking
- 7:37Speaker 1: that film I moved to. I had enough money to
- 7:41Speaker 1: move to l A. And um, you know, prior to that,
- 7:45Speaker 1: as I was saying, I'm always in very goal oriented,
- 7:47Speaker 1: So I was planning to get to l A. I
- 7:50Speaker 1: didn't know how I was going to get there. I'm
- 7:53Speaker 1: very familiar with Saving Last Dance. It's one of my
- 7:56Speaker 1: familiar was as an interracial relationship as a young lady
- 8:00Speaker 1: African American lead and a white female lead and uh,
- 8:05Speaker 1: and she was wanted to be a ballet dancer, okay,
- 8:07Speaker 1: and then by going into the black community, she was
- 8:11Speaker 1: ostracized because you know, she was she had rhythm, she
- 8:14Speaker 1: was cool, and that was what she was dating this
- 8:16Speaker 1: kind of popular black guy who was also tied to
- 8:19Speaker 1: a game, a game. So so it was one of
- 8:23Speaker 1: my favorite movies. And just that's why I know so
- 8:24Speaker 1: much details about it. So so I was like, you
- 8:27Speaker 1: really know the thing way when it came out, because
- 8:32Speaker 1: I was writing, I was writing and doing sitcoms to
- 8:34Speaker 1: the time, my thought was a silly concept. I was
- 8:36Speaker 1: gonna watch this and I became one of my favorite movies.
- 8:38Speaker 1: And so, so, what's the One of the Road. Were
- 8:41Speaker 1: you one of the that the the girls that didn't
- 8:44Speaker 1: like her or which one did? Did you did your
- 8:47Speaker 1: character make the screen? I did make the stra screen.
- 8:51Speaker 1: I had one line, and I was um. I was
- 8:56Speaker 1: one of the girls who didn't like her and his
- 9:00Speaker 1: ex girlfriend. So initially I auditioned for the girl the
- 9:03Speaker 1: ex girlfriend, and I didn't get that role, but I
- 9:06Speaker 1: ended up getting like one of her friends. Right, So
- 9:09Speaker 1: I was just instigating in the club and yeah, when
- 9:13Speaker 1: she was dancing with John Patrick comments the guy, I
- 9:17Speaker 1: was instigating, like you were one of them girls. Yeah,
- 9:23Speaker 1: because they were like yeah right, yeah, huh yeah, okay.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Co Well that's that's great because see, my whole thing
- 9:31Speaker 1: about it is that, first of all, I got to
- 9:33Speaker 1: get a Chicago story out of you about the weather.
- 9:35Speaker 1: I just came back from Alaska last week, and so
- 9:38Speaker 1: it was cold, and so I was walking around just
- 9:40Speaker 1: being normal. It was like twenty six degrees. I was
- 9:42Speaker 1: just being normal, and then the guy said, man, it's
- 9:44Speaker 1: cold out there. I said, excuse me, excuse me, I've
- 9:46Speaker 1: lived five years in Chicago. Yeah, I'm the five years
- 9:50Speaker 1: in Chicago. I'll just let you understand this is nothing. Yeah,
- 9:54Speaker 1: you have no haark. You have the wind coming around
- 9:57Speaker 1: the corner. Knocking your face off. You have in the
- 10:00Speaker 1: wind that drives up your tears and nicky eyes, blink icicles.
- 10:05Speaker 1: You don't have that here. You have cold. You have
- 10:09Speaker 1: drama in Chicago with the weather. So yeah, now, miss Westbrook,
- 10:13Speaker 1: do you have a cold story you can share with
- 10:16Speaker 1: us before we go before we are a continuous interview,
- 10:19Speaker 1: because I just can't let as Chicago native just come
- 10:21Speaker 1: on my show and just talk about Chicago like it's
- 10:24Speaker 1: because that that's an experience that five years I was
- 10:26Speaker 1: up there, five years, I know I would walk around
- 10:28Speaker 1: the street and be unrecognizable. They won't know if I
- 10:31Speaker 1: was black and white. That's how much clothes I had
- 10:32Speaker 1: on Chicago. Yeah, that is something that I really tried
- 10:39Speaker 1: to forget about the weather. I would say that it
- 10:44Speaker 1: is definitely I did not miss the weather at all,
- 10:48Speaker 1: so very low. But you know, once you live there,
- 10:51Speaker 1: you kind of adjust it's being so cold, but it's
- 10:55Speaker 1: still very cold, And I honestly just have completely tried
- 10:59Speaker 1: to forget those brutal cold days of having them go
- 11:02Speaker 1: out and turn the car on and let it run
- 11:05Speaker 1: about ten minutes before you get in at it. Yeah,
- 11:08Speaker 1: you just don't dropping the cold Chicago call, yeah, I does.
- 11:13Speaker 1: I don't care if you got the heat warmer. It's
- 11:15Speaker 1: just it's just ain't happening. So I just want to
- 11:18Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring that up because I had to.
- 11:20Speaker 1: It was whenever somebody said it from Chicago, it just
- 11:23Speaker 1: brings back a flood of cold memories to meet Miss Western,
- 11:26Speaker 1: and so I just gotta I just gotta like bring
- 11:29Speaker 1: your pain to my pain, you know what I'm saying. Especially,
- 11:32Speaker 1: I was just in Alaska this weekend and I'm walking
- 11:34Speaker 1: around at twenty six like it's nothing. You know. I
- 11:36Speaker 1: didn't even have the Chilians on. I didn't have anything.
- 11:39Speaker 1: I was just walking around regular, regular, regular pants. I
- 11:42Speaker 1: was just cool, just and but the thing about it
- 11:45Speaker 1: is that I love the fact that Chicago is such
- 11:49Speaker 1: a melting pot of creativity. It's it's really one of
- 11:53Speaker 1: my favorite cities. And I want to get in more
- 11:55Speaker 1: detail about the writing aspect that you were talking about
- 11:58Speaker 1: because of the fact that you producer and all that,
- 12:00Speaker 1: because there's so many layers that people don't understand. When
- 12:03Speaker 1: you get into Hollywood, you just can't be just an actress.
- 12:06Speaker 1: You have to have layers. It's called multiple talents. Which
- 12:10Speaker 1: leads the multiple streets of incomes, would leads the multiple opportunities.
- 12:13Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll be right back with more
- 12:15Speaker 1: of It's Westbrook. As we talked about her career from
- 12:18Speaker 1: Chicago to l A, say the last dance, because we've
- 12:21Speaker 1: got more break with her. I just ra Sean McDonald's
- 12:25Speaker 1: heading into the final break of my show money making
- 12:28Speaker 1: conversations on the phone. Is a very talented actress, writer, producer,
- 12:34Speaker 1: straight out of Chicago, not living in uh Los Angeles. Um,
- 12:39Speaker 1: and the she's got up early for my show. Twenty
- 12:41Speaker 1: years in the business. When when you tell somebody twenty years,
- 12:45Speaker 1: I always tell people that that's a resume builder. That's ah,
- 12:48Speaker 1: it doesn't happen overnight. Um, you have to do a
- 12:51Speaker 1: lot of different things. It's Westbrook to be successful. And uh,
- 12:55Speaker 1: you you you you came in as an actress. When
- 12:57Speaker 1: did you start shifting to the writing and produce some
- 13:00Speaker 1: phases of your career. I started writing and producing in
- 13:05Speaker 1: two thousand seven. This was right before the oddly was
- 13:09Speaker 1: right before the writer's strike and two thousand and seven.
- 13:12Speaker 1: But I just felt the desire to create my own opportunities,
- 13:18Speaker 1: you know, instead of waiting for work. I mean, the
- 13:23Speaker 1: the amount of work that was available, it wasn't the
- 13:27Speaker 1: same back then that it is now. And so I
- 13:29Speaker 1: thought it was important for me to create and not
- 13:33Speaker 1: just wait. And so that's what I did. Well, you know,
- 13:37Speaker 1: it's interesting, did you say that, because that was at
- 13:39Speaker 1: the time where, you know, where where reality shows started dominating,
- 13:44Speaker 1: and then that came out of that strike. Remember, that's
- 13:46Speaker 1: why there was a lot of people, well, you know,
- 13:48Speaker 1: we can, we can get back, because everybody was questioning,
- 13:50Speaker 1: what is a writer? What are there right now? It's
- 13:53Speaker 1: a reality or show or those right? Oh no, no,
- 13:54Speaker 1: we're just producing them. We're just producing them. And so
- 13:58Speaker 1: at one time, because I had our of producing the
- 14:00Speaker 1: awards show called the Neighborhood Awards the Hoodie Awards, and
- 14:04Speaker 1: it was becoming very difficult for me to find talent,
- 14:08Speaker 1: celebrity talent to go on stage because they weren't working.
- 14:10Speaker 1: They weren't working, and so I really I thought that
- 14:15Speaker 1: was a dark time for African American talent as well
- 14:18Speaker 1: as storytelling, because all our images were argumentative in reality shows,
- 14:24Speaker 1: you know, spending on each other, throwing drinks on each other,
- 14:26Speaker 1: climbing on top of the fight, over men fight over
- 14:29Speaker 1: each other, fighting over clothes. That for a boy, the
- 14:32Speaker 1: like a like a four year window. That's all we
- 14:34Speaker 1: were on television, and that was I thought that was sad.
- 14:37Speaker 1: So when you say that, hey, the opportunities weren't there,
- 14:40Speaker 1: you started building your armor to you wanted to create
- 14:43Speaker 1: your opportunities. That was tied to reality shows right right, um,
- 14:49Speaker 1: and it was squite the best thing I could have did.
- 14:51Speaker 1: I think every actors should create their own opportunities, right
- 14:57Speaker 1: because it also serves as a calling card. Know, the
- 15:00Speaker 1: big thing for a lot of actors is to try
- 15:03Speaker 1: to you know, get a demo reel and get their
- 15:05Speaker 1: demo real together and all this and that. But writing
- 15:08Speaker 1: and producing a film, even if it's like a short. Um,
- 15:14Speaker 1: Now you don't need a whole lot of money to
- 15:16Speaker 1: create something good. It serves as a bigger calling card.
- 15:20Speaker 1: And now with so many different avenues and outlets to
- 15:24Speaker 1: distribute your work and have places license it, there's more
- 15:29Speaker 1: opportunities for you to even get paid for the things
- 15:32Speaker 1: that you create. Now, thats theater you do? A theater
- 15:36Speaker 1: you've done? Have you done? Sitcoms? Are your sitcomfers or
- 15:39Speaker 1: your drama? I normally have mainly done drama, but I
- 15:44Speaker 1: have done some sitcoms. Back in the day, I worked
- 15:46Speaker 1: on shows like Girlfriends and Militia, but those are probably
- 15:50Speaker 1: the only two sitcoms I've ever worked on. I'm a
- 15:54Speaker 1: sitcom guy, you know, I'm the Jamie Fox. Some ten
- 16:00Speaker 1: to Marry Maras have a sitcom guy, Steve Harvey. So
- 16:03Speaker 1: so I know there is a big difference. I always
- 16:05Speaker 1: tell people. In the sitcom, they you you open the door,
- 16:09Speaker 1: and a drama they allow you to walk to the
- 16:10Speaker 1: door and then open it and so so well used.
- 16:15Speaker 1: And also dramas are more emotional. But now theater that's
- 16:18Speaker 1: a different calling card, isn't it. Yeah, theater you have
- 16:22Speaker 1: more space. Um, when I say that, television you're working
- 16:27Speaker 1: within certain frames. Film you're working within certain frames, but
- 16:32Speaker 1: you still have a little more space than television. Theater
- 16:35Speaker 1: you're completely free. Theater is consistent. There's no stop, cut,
- 16:40Speaker 1: you know, let's do it again. You're living the story
- 16:43Speaker 1: all the way through. There's no breaks in between, maybe
- 16:46Speaker 1: if there's an intermission, but outside of that, there's no cut,
- 16:50Speaker 1: there's no let's redo it. You know, you're living it
- 16:53Speaker 1: completely all the way through and you have to project more.
- 16:57Speaker 1: You have to really use your your voice to reach
- 17:01Speaker 1: the people in the back of the theater. You know. Um,
- 17:04Speaker 1: some bigger theaters have microphones, but most of them don't,
- 17:08Speaker 1: so you really have to have um strong vocal um
- 17:13Speaker 1: tools to really project. But they'll be able to live
- 17:16Speaker 1: truthfully where the person in the back of the theater
- 17:18Speaker 1: can still what you're experiencing. So it is a different approach,
- 17:23Speaker 1: but all in all, you're still being and all three
- 17:27Speaker 1: of the mediums with you know, with the whatever story
- 17:30Speaker 1: you're telling, you're still being as your character. It's just
- 17:32Speaker 1: about how you're using your your body at this point, um,
- 17:38Speaker 1: and your your instrument, your voice and stuff like that
- 17:40Speaker 1: within the three mediums. Yeah, I'm on the phone. She's
- 17:43Speaker 1: on the phone talking up talking to Karema Westbrook Or.
- 17:46Speaker 1: She's one of the co stars of the TV series
- 17:49Speaker 1: or c W drama called All American. It airs every Wednesday,
- 17:52Speaker 1: nine pm and you can also catch the show or
- 17:55Speaker 1: streaming for you of course on the c W app.
- 17:58Speaker 1: She's also will be appearing in the UH movie are
- 18:02Speaker 1: called The Uh. The The Boat's Tall Bolden, which is
- 18:06Speaker 1: the influential New Orleans music legend called Buddy Bolden that
- 18:10Speaker 1: would be in theaters May third, and you'll be playing uh,
- 18:14Speaker 1: playing his mom in that in that movie, I'm assuming
- 18:17Speaker 1: it's uh as a period of there and so, so
- 18:20Speaker 1: when do you start? This is just an honest question
- 18:22Speaker 1: because as I always tell people, if you're gonna go
- 18:25Speaker 1: to Hollywood, go to Hollywood young, because as you go
- 18:27Speaker 1: to Hollywood, they're more opportunities. You know, I always tell
- 18:29Speaker 1: people there's only one teacher teaching the classroom, but they're
- 18:32Speaker 1: usually teaching it the thirty students. So there's thirty young
- 18:34Speaker 1: people opportunities that you have in there. So and we
- 18:37Speaker 1: all know that there's a window that when we turn
- 18:40Speaker 1: these headshots. We said, hey, if I'm twenty one, I
- 18:42Speaker 1: can still play six Team. When I'm thirty, I can
- 18:44Speaker 1: still play early twenties. So when people start casting you
- 18:47Speaker 1: for different roles and you start accepting them, do does
- 18:50Speaker 1: it define your place in Hollywood? Or you just say, hey,
- 18:53Speaker 1: I accept the opportunity that they give me and I
- 18:56Speaker 1: will I'm a working actress. I think it ends on
- 19:00Speaker 1: the medium that um you're working in, because if you're
- 19:06Speaker 1: in a big film and like you're like, for instance,
- 19:10Speaker 1: I'm in a big film and I play a mom.
- 19:13Speaker 1: People who see the film, that's what they're gonna see
- 19:16Speaker 1: me as Naturally, it's kind of like, oh, they will
- 19:18Speaker 1: be perfect for this because they saw you play the
- 19:21Speaker 1: same exact character, which is why they think you would
- 19:23Speaker 1: be perfect for the other characters. That's exactly the same
- 19:26Speaker 1: as a character you just saw you As with television,
- 19:29Speaker 1: you have a little more range because you might just
- 19:33Speaker 1: be guest starring on a role on the on the
- 19:36Speaker 1: show in a particular role, and so you might be
- 19:39Speaker 1: a doctor on one show, you might be a police
- 19:41Speaker 1: officer on another show. But typically people started casting you
- 19:46Speaker 1: based off of how they seen you, Like if they've
- 19:49Speaker 1: seen your work, your demo real when you playing a doctor,
- 19:52Speaker 1: most of the times they're like, they're gonna kind of
- 19:55Speaker 1: see you in that, in that in that vein um.
- 19:59Speaker 1: But there's always room for you to break out of
- 20:03Speaker 1: that by choosing to do different types of roles so
- 20:06Speaker 1: people can see you differently, and you can also create
- 20:10Speaker 1: your own content or something that's a completely different character
- 20:14Speaker 1: than you've been playing you've been hired to do to
- 20:17Speaker 1: show people that you can do something else. So it's
- 20:19Speaker 1: just a matter of how people initially see you. A
- 20:22Speaker 1: lot of times it's how they feel like, oh, you
- 20:25Speaker 1: will be great for that, because that's the imprint that's
- 20:28Speaker 1: on their mind based off with the work they've seen
- 20:30Speaker 1: you do. But that's not an absolute. There's people, you know,
- 20:34Speaker 1: character actors done all types of things, you know, And
- 20:38Speaker 1: when I first started, I did a lot of character work.
- 20:41Speaker 1: When I first started, how did my career and every
- 20:44Speaker 1: character was completely different. So um, but I think you know,
- 20:50Speaker 1: once I started playing moms, like, oh, they want to
- 20:54Speaker 1: hire you as a mom. Oh, they want to hire
- 20:56Speaker 1: you as the mom. You're hired as the mom. You're
- 20:59Speaker 1: his mom. So I've been the mom for the last
- 21:02Speaker 1: several years. It's I'm okay with that. But yeah, I
- 21:06Speaker 1: think that I've played that role enough that that I
- 21:09Speaker 1: gotta ask you because you know, our our audition for
- 21:12Speaker 1: one role in my whole life, and I got it.
- 21:15Speaker 1: You're going to competing. How do you land roles? How
- 21:18Speaker 1: do you how do you win when you're going in
- 21:21Speaker 1: the casting session? I think you got to just go
- 21:25Speaker 1: based off of the material. This is what I've learned
- 21:28Speaker 1: from just being on the other side. Sometimes it has
- 21:32Speaker 1: nothing to even do with your performance because somebody could
- 21:36Speaker 1: come in and do a really great job. But as
- 21:39Speaker 1: a writer, as a creator, sometimes you just see the
- 21:43Speaker 1: character as being a certain way. Um. A lot of
- 21:47Speaker 1: times you know it when you see it. Sometimes it's
- 21:50Speaker 1: just a person's essence that it works. It's like that's
- 21:54Speaker 1: who it is. So above all of that, you've gotta
- 21:59Speaker 1: be as prepared, aired as possible, um with the material
- 22:04Speaker 1: um and totally believe in the circumstances that are written
- 22:08Speaker 1: that it's written and going in and just being free
- 22:12Speaker 1: and doing the work. But ultimately a lot of times
- 22:15Speaker 1: it boils down to a person's essence. It boils down
- 22:20Speaker 1: to what feels right. Because somebody could come in and
- 22:24Speaker 1: flood the lines and be perfect for the role, and
- 22:28Speaker 1: it wasn't even about them, like getting the lines right
- 22:31Speaker 1: and being perfect. It was just something about them feels right.
- 22:35Speaker 1: They feel like that character so or it feels like
- 22:39Speaker 1: what we were looking for. The writer it's like this
- 22:42Speaker 1: is how I see it, or the director it's like
- 22:44Speaker 1: this is how I see the character. That's him. And
- 22:47Speaker 1: the actor could be like my audition was terrible, but
- 22:51Speaker 1: they don't realize that it was something about their essence
- 22:54Speaker 1: that was right for the part. So I think there's
- 22:57Speaker 1: a lot of different components that play a part in
- 22:59Speaker 1: some mighty being being cast in the role. But the
- 23:03Speaker 1: only thing actor can really can concern themselves with is
- 23:08Speaker 1: being prepared, a being as prepared as possible, and believing
- 23:12Speaker 1: in the circumstances that's written in the script, and going
- 23:15Speaker 1: in and letting go and doing their thing and letting
- 23:19Speaker 1: it go when they walk out of the room. That's important.
- 23:23Speaker 1: On the phone, you know, she's twenty years in television,
- 23:27Speaker 1: film and theater. UH latest project is UH She's co
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