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[BxBD] Daniel Dubois SMASHES Fabio Wardley · Boxing B-Sides

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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back, back,
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back. Back, back, back. Before. Before. Before.
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Before. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before
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Dark. This is Boxing Before Dark. All right,
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here we go. Boxing Before Dark. Holy shit, Shanada,
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we're back. Another week, more fights to talk.
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They keep fishing them out. We're going to keep
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watching them. Hell yeah. How's Japan treating
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you? It's getting too hot for me now. We're up
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in the high 20s already. It's going to be a rough
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summer until I go home. But tomorrow... There
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is a big festival in Tokyo, and one of the Yakuza
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families still participates. They've been banned
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from going directly to the big shrine, but they
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carry the mikoshi, like the little shrine things
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they carry. They take it close and then pass
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it off to non -tattooed members. But they're
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pretty famous for showing off their tattoos at
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this festival. So I'm going to go see if I can
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kick it with some Yakuza. Oh, yeah. You'll blend
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right in. Yeah. Yeah. Me with my tattoos. But
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yeah, my plan is I had been trying to get a friend
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who speaks Japanese to come with me and she had
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to bail. So I'm just going to buy a six pack
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of beer and hand them out and see if anyone will
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talk to me. That's. That's kind of how I, when
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I, like, all of my friends are online, right?
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So I can't, I can't go, I can't call somebody
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up. And the only person who lives nearby is Benji.
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So, like, I can't call him up because he's married,
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he has a kid and everything. So, like, oh, well,
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if I'm going to go somewhere, I just walk up
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to a group and say, hey, I'm here by myself.
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I get around for the table. I just hang out for
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a little while. What do you think? Yeah, yeah.
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It's not a bad plan. I did that in England, all
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over the place. At worst, I'm out, what's a six
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-pack here, like eight bucks, ten bucks. Damn.
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Prices are up everywhere. Yeah. But it's still
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pretty affordable in Japan to try and make friends.
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But, yeah, I'm hoping... Yeah, I'm hoping I can
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get a picture with some of the ladies. I'm going
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to wear my tank top. Yeah, they get the big tattoos
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too. Oh, very cool. Yeah. Oh man, if you can,
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get one with, if someone has a... I am not looking
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for people missing fingers. That seems dangerous.
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I remember it from a movie. where one of the
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characters is a Yakuza guy. And then he finally
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talks, like halfway through the movie, he finally
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says his first words. And they're like, holy
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shit, why don't you talk more? And then he shows
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his hand missing a pinky. It's like, because
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I talk too much. Excellent. I've been playing
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Yakuza like a dragon. Kind of stupid, but I'm
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really hoping I can mingle a little bit. We'll
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see. My Japanese has not gotten any better, so
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I'll have to find some bilingual Yakuza. I think
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there's quite a few. They tend to work internationally.
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Oh, yeah. Import, export. Yeah. Let's break into
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the boxing news and rumors and shit. Before we
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start, the boxing survey. is going to continue.
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I'm going to keep doing it until we get like
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at least 100 respondents. bxng .co slash survey.
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Tell me what you think about the titles and like
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their... Which one do you think is more corrupt,
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least corrupt, more prestigious, etc. And the
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Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act. It
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is very likely to clear committee in the Senate.
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say whatever you want but we got to do something
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we still have time um it still needs to go to
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the floor of the senate for a vote so if we can
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get enough people bothering their senators about
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this then maybe we can uh get them to vote against
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it but that's enough of the not so fun stuff
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fun stuff fabio i don't know if this one is fun
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uh activates his rematch clause We'll be talking
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about the fight in a few moments. Do you want
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to hold off until we get to that point? It doesn't
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matter to me. It might make more sense to just
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discuss it after the fight. No spoilers at the
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beginning. This was a piece of stupid news. Jaron
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Ennis has to vacate his interim. WBA 154 title
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in order to be eligible to compete for the full
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title that is held by Xander Zayas. This is absolutely
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stupid. I don't have any words besides things
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like this is ridiculous. This is stupid. This
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is why Zufa and those people get to push the
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American Boxing Revival Act because of garbage
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like this. Yeah, the interim belts are supposed
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to exist for a little while and then go away.
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They're not supposed to be their own belt that
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people fight eliminators for and vacate and stuff
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like that. It just shouldn't exist that long.
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It's interim. It's supposed to be temporary.
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Right. It's like the champ is injured. or something,
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then you make an interim title real quick, and
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then once the champ is no longer injured, then
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you consolidate them. The interim champ fights
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the full champion. They shouldn't be using it
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for, like, the number one contender position.
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Ridiculous. So stupid. I suppose they get fees
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when people fight for it, though, hey? They probably
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get more... get paid more because it's a quote
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-unquote title versus just fighting for a ranking.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, but it's just...
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This is corrupt bullshit. Yeah, 100%. That...
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It pains me to say that it... No, it doesn't.
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We know that boxing needs to change. We know
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that it needs changing. One of the things that
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the Revival Act does do well... Is mandate one
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champion per division. Yeah. So. None of this
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interim garbage. If it's not necessary. No regular
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titles. WBA. Silver titles. Yeah. We don't need
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them. Because there's one champion. You fight
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for a ranking. And then when you get to the top.
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You fight for the title. Yeah. Steve McKenna.
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Whoever that is. Signs with Zufa. He will be
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debuting against some dude named Streeter. Streeter.
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Excellent. On Zufa 7. That's going to be the
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card in Burnham. In where? Is that in the UK?
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Yes. UK. On location. Zufa's leaving the Apex.
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I didn't realize they were going overseas, though.
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Yeah, they signed a deal with Sky Sports a few
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months ago. I guess I forgot about it. Yeah.
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It's an unfortunate reality that we're going
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to have to get accustomed to, is dealing with
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Sufa. Especially as I sign more and more people.
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The right guy. Is this a heavyweight? No. Okay,
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I have the wrong guy then. Never mind. Do you
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have the right guy? Galal Yafai, injured. Pulled
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out of the June 6th card that he was supposed
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to be fighting on. I have never really liked
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the Yafais. This doesn't seem like a big loss
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to me. Is it a big loss? Ashton Silva will be
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facing Jojo Diaz. Thunder Studios on June 19th.
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How does Jojo keep getting fights? I don't understand.
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Like, I really feel like people are just waiting
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for him to get hurt badly. Silva's not going
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to be the one to do it. That's not his style.
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That's not his MO. Yeah, so. He'll at least box
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up Jojo while it lasts. Yeah, but Jojo taking
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another loss is whatever. Like, I guess he's
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still kind of a name, but not really. He's fighting
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on an MF Pro card, for whatever that counts.
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Not much. Lewis Crocker vs. Liam Parrow will
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be taking place in Brisbane on June 24th. This
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one could be fun. Yeah, it should be good. Liam
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Parrow has found his killer instinct, I'll say,
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since he moved up from 140. And Lewis Crocker's
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good. He's alright. I guess. I mean, yeah. He's
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fine. I don't know. That's about all I got. Should
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be okay. Yeah, it should be a good time. Crocker
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does come to bang. And Liam Parrow, like I said,
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he's found his inner Mexican, I guess, for lack
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of a better term. This is a much better main
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event than the Australian cards usually have,
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in my opinion. Yeah, it is. Like the Australian
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public gets to see a decent fight for a change
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instead of a one -sided mismatch. A full -on
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title fight at that. Yeah. I'm excited for the
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Aussies. In Brisbane. What part is that in? I
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made myself learn Australian geography. And I'm
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completely forgetting where Brisbane is. I think
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it's on the east coast. Southeast, I think. Give
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me two seconds and I can tell you. Almost the
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Middle East. Oh. I did get the east part right.
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It's just north of the Queensland -New South
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Wales border. I see it. It's Sydney that's the
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southeast. Yeah. I had those mixed up. I do not
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know Australian geography at all. I just know
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where the major cities are. That's pretty much
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it. Bruce Carrington versus Rene Palacios will
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be taking place on the July 4th card in Cleveland.
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So I think he'll be co -maning to Abdullah Mason.
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Nice. Should I know who Palacios is? No. Okay.
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Not really. You might, I don't know. Mexican
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Rene Palacios? There is a lot of Rene Palacios
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on BoxRec. Oh yeah, I recognize his face. Lamont
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Roach. Wait, Bruce Carrington. Who are... What's
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Rene's record? You still have him up? I just
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closed it, but I can get him back. He is 19 -0
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-1 with 10 KOs. So not a real threat, like power
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-wise. Probably not. He's left -handed. I assume
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his nickname's Zerto. Always so creative with
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the fucking nicknames. His last fight was Sagawa.
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And he won by a split decision. Was that on the
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Pro Box card? Maryland Live Casino. I assume
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it's a Pro Box card. Yeah, that's one of their
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usual hunts. Yeah, Provox. Promoted by Lamont
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Sr., that one. Yeah, that's why I recognize him.
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I watched the Sagawa fight. Yeah, same. I suspect
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Carrington's gonna just outbox him, but... You
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never know. Righty versus lefty, he might be
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able to find the straight right pretty easily.
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Maybe. Has Carrington fought many southpaws?
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You know, I don't know. I don't pay that much
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attention to Bruce Carrington, to be honest.
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I don't either. Partly because his nickname is
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kind of lame. Shushu? Yeah. He also beats Sagawa.
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Made me sad. So Sagawa... Looking... I'm down
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his list here. Two Southpaws after 2024. That's
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it. Yeah, I would still pick Carrington by decision
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would be my official prediction. Lamont Roach
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versus William Zepeda for the vacant WBC title
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in Vegas on August 1st. Been a while since we've
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seen Zepeda. Yeah, not since the Shakur fight.
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This one might turn into a banger. Lamont Roach
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can. That's Zapata's MO. It would be unwise,
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I think, for Lamont to get drawn into that type
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of firefight. It would be unwise, but more fun.
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Yes, of course. I think Lamont, he can stay in
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the pocket and be as, well, not as evasive as
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Shakur, but he can be evasive in the pocket like
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that. But he's a lot more offensively minded
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while he's in the pocket and being evasive. It's
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more evade to set up than evade for the sake
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of evading. Yeah, I don't hate this matchup.
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No, it's a good one. Especially for a title,
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too. It's about time. Like, Lamont Roach won
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his last two fucking title fights. And somehow
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didn't get a title. Yeah, exactly. And Zepeda,
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this is his title aspirations coming to fruition.
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I still think Lamont Roach is going to win, though.
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I would lean towards Roach as well. I think this
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one should be entertaining. Even if it's a bit
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one -sided, I think it'll be entertaining. Because
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the beta won't go away. Like, even if Roach is
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kind of piecing him up. Boils the shrimp. Such
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a rude nickname. It's an odd choice, but when
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you're light -skinned and you turn red for exercise.
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But why shrimp? Probably because he's smaller.
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He's at the smaller weight classes. Good point.
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And he turns red when he's boiling in the gym.
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Lamont Roach has his nickname listed as the Reaper.
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I don't think I've heard anyone call him that.
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I don't think I've heard that outside of introductions.
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Yeah. Jake Paul claims he's fighting Canelo next
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for 200. He's paying Canelo 200 mil for the fight.
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I mean, Canelo will take the money. Has Jake
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Paul done anything since AJ? No. Is he healed
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up? I would hope. Well, I would imagine he is.
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Like, because it was a while ago now, but I read
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somewhere he still hadn't had that tooth replaced
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because they were waiting for the bones to really
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harden before they fuck with his teeth. Yeesh.
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Gross. Yeah. But $200 million, you'd be stupid
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not to take the fight. It's not like Canelo's
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really worried about his legacy that way. $200
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million could buy you a different legacy. Yeah.
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Oh, speaking of legacies, that's what? I was
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just going to say, that's crazy money. I can't
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imagine $200 million. No, I can't either. But
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speaking of legacies, Lomachenko is coming out
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of retirement. Now that his top -ranked contract
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has officially expired. He apparently tweeted
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that, like, at midnight when it expired. So he
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just didn't want to fight for top rank? Is that
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what it... Seems so. I don't understand this
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one a whole bunch. Like, I just... Why? money
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I guess but there's rumors I think it's all just
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rumors I don't think anything's substantiated
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that he's coming back to fight Tio again so then
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it's definitely like trying to correct his legacy
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yeah I guess but that could just be shit people
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have made up I don't think any of it has come
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from Lomachenko Yeah, I haven't seen anything
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from him directly either or anyone that's like
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in a position to speak on his behalf. Yeah. Just
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like the speculation also is that he's coming
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back to fight Tank because they had been negotiating
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that one before. Right. Is Tank coming back anytime
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soon? That's also on the rumor mill that he'll
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be back sometime in July or August. Oh, okay.
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That one I think I'll believe when I see it.
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Yeah, that's a guy coming fresh out of retirement.
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He's been retired for a few years anyway. And
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another guy who's kind of in a shaky situation.
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Yeah, I guess they're both on long layoffs. It
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could make sense. Yeah, shrug, I suppose. That's
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all we got for news, though. Cursory glance.
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A weird bag of news this week. It's very random.
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Oh, here's the... You were telling me about the
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Dave Allen underwear situation? Yeah. I didn't
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watch the weigh -in or whatever, but I saw clips
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of him prancing around in, like, dairy cow patterned
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underwear with his shirt tucked in. Did not get
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it. Just put your pants back on, man. Nobody
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wants to see that. Gigas Kavalaskas versus Blair
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the Flare. Excellent. That's a rumor, not a set
23:49
thing. I did kind of enjoy Blair's WWE shtick.
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It was fun. Have we mentioned Spence vs. Tim
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Zhu is set for July 25th? I don't think we have
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mentioned it. I don't know how to feel about
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that fight. It's not the worst one Spence can
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come back for, but also I feel like I know he's
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the no tune -ups guy, but he could probably use
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a tune -up. Tim Zoo's the closest thing to a
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tune -up he's ever taken, though. Adam Azeem
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versus Steve Claggett. Which one's Steve Claggett?
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Is he the Canadian? Yes, that is correct. Oh
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my god, he calls himself the dragon? Of course
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he does. I think he has a big dragon tattoo.
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I do like dragons, but he doesn't deserve that
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P -R -O -T -O -N Alright. Recaps. Quick Wednesday
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night fights for you. Yeah, Wednesday, May 6th,
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we had three on the No Limit card in Broadmeadow,
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New South Wales, Australia. That's on the southeast
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part, as we established. Three fights that I
28:51
wanted to point out. Jack Bowen knocks out Tonga
28:56
Tongotongo in two. Our boy drops another one.
29:02
Damn. Sad times. Joshon James, a Pro Box alum,
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drops the UD to Callum Peters. And Nikita Zu
29:16
retires Oscar Diaz after the sixth. Beating up
29:22
Spaniards. Good. Moving to taken promotions at
29:33
Korakuen Hall. We had one fight to point out
29:37
here. Shanada, what did you have? Yeah, so the
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co -main Kenji Fujita was the taken guy. He had
29:47
the I want to say Oriental Pacific belt. Give
29:51
me one second. No, the WBO Asia Pacific belt.
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He's an older guy. He's had the belt for a while.
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And he got massively upset by Ryota Muto. We
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were trying to figure out who promotes him, and
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it's a different promoter every fight. Yeah.
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It's 9 -1 -1, and it's been a different promoter
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every time. Yeah, he's only 21. um and he knocked
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out the asia pacific belt holder in round six
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or seven i can't remember but the um the commentators
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just kept screaming huge upset huge upset for
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like 30 seconds after it happened nobody expected
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it and it was a it was also a fun fight it was
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a firefight i quite enjoyed it i just wanted
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to mention it Muto doesn't even have a pitcher
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on box rec. That's how much no one cares about
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this kid. We care, Ryota. We care about your
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huge upset. Yeah, it was a really fun fight.
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I just happened to turn on you next and they
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had boxing, so. Moving to... Friday, May 8th.
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This one was just a quick selection that I wanted
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to point out. God, mouse. Ivan Zuko stops Emiliano
31:34
Pucheta in four. That was a super middleweight
31:38
fight. I want to skip ahead to Sunday, May 10th.
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We can talk about Zufa Boxing 6 really quick
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so that we can devote our time to the card that
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mattered. What did we have on here? Rakhmatulo
32:00
Boymatov. In his debut, stops Caleb Hall in one.
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Alexis Alvarado, majority decision. Demajian
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Van Hooter stops Raphael Murphy in one. That's
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all I'm going to point out from the prelims.
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In the main portion, Andreas Katsourakis. If
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you had listened to us, and if you're a gambling
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type, you should have known. He upset us. This
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was a fun fight. Yeah. Katsourakis is legit.
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Julian Rodriguez, UD over James Perella. And
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Shane Mosley stops Sergei Bohachuk in six. This
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made me sad, Leo. I think, I know, like, years
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-wise, Sergei's not that old. But man, has he
33:00
taken damage. Even when he wins, he takes a ton
33:03
of damage. Yeah, mileage -wise, he's way higher
33:08
up on the clock than Shane Mosley is. I thought
33:13
Mosley looked good in, like... Although, I guess
33:20
two of the refs had him down on the cards, or
33:23
the judges had him down on the cards. So technically,
33:27
a come -from -behind knockout. Upset of the year?
33:35
This one? I don't think so. Yeah, probably not.
33:40
I don't think, uh... Like we said, Boa Chucks
33:45
just got too many miles. I think Mosley Jr. was
33:48
probably the favorite, wasn't he? I would think
33:51
so. Yeah. If I was a bookmaker, I would have
33:55
had Mosley as the favorite. Yeah. As far as this
34:00
card goes, I think Katsurakis was the fight of
34:02
the night. Need to see how they published their
34:09
bonuses. Oh, do they do bonuses? Yeah. I didn't
34:15
realize. Overall, it was a decent card, though.
34:19
I have to give it to Zufa. The card was fun.
34:23
They're getting better. But, Queensberry on the
34:34
zone in Manchester. Some stuff from the undercard.
34:41
Gavin Gwynn, majority decision over Khalil Majeed.
34:44
Bradley Ray stops Liam Cameron in four. Jack
34:49
Rafferty retires Ekau Essaman in six. Zach Shelley
34:54
knocks out David Morrell in ten. That might be
35:02
upset of the year. I think so. At least so far.
35:06
That was crazy. The substitute teacher on relatively
35:09
short notice knocks off the hot Cuban prospect.
35:15
The dangerous one, too. It's not like he's just
35:19
a flashy Cuban -style sort of slickster. He's
35:23
a fucking menace. And he got beat by an elementary
35:29
school substitute. We are currently chatting
35:43
on May 15th in the evening. For me, it's Friday
35:50
evening for you. It's Saturday morning. But this
35:53
was the week that Chelly was back at school.
35:58
Yeah, he had to teach on Monday. Yep, he had
36:01
work on Monday. That's crazy. And because he's
36:08
a substitute, I assume he moves around a lot.
36:12
The kids probably don't even know he's a boxer.
36:15
So your substitute teacher, who is this jacked
36:18
man, comes in with, I assume, a black eye. Like
36:22
he'd have some marks. Yeah, he has a bruise or
36:25
something somewhere. Yeah, and you're like, who
36:28
is this scary man? And he teaches young children
36:31
too. I bet you they don't bully their substitute
36:36
like we used to. How could you? He'll hand you
36:42
a pair of gloves and say, well... Square up,
36:45
kid. Yeah. Damn. Nah, that's the storyline of
36:51
the week for me. Yeah, definitely. Substitute
36:56
teacher. Short notice. Has work on Monday. Knocks
37:03
off the prospect. The contender. I think he held
37:07
minor titles. Did he? Yeah. I think he had the
37:12
WBA regular for a while. Ridiculous. Before Benavides
37:20
took it off him. I loved when he was walking
37:26
out. The lady's like, did you expect this? He's
37:29
like, of course I expected this. I didn't come
37:32
here to lose. He held the WBA regular at 168
37:39
and the regular at 175. So the scary contender.
37:49
Yeah. Quote unquote boogeyman. Knocked off by
37:54
a substitute teacher. Taught him a lesson. And
38:01
Morel looked pretty bad like the entire time
38:06
too. I think it was his first fight with Salas
38:10
in this corner. And I really wish that they would
38:15
have put a camera in that corner because I wanted
38:18
to hear what they were telling him because Morel
38:20
was not making adjustments. He kept getting hit
38:24
with stupid shit. He just was not there. This
38:30
is not what I expect of David Morrell. We use
38:35
this question jokingly in Discord, but who does
38:38
that to David Morrell? Zach Shelley, apparently.
38:43
Zach fucking Shelley does. No kidding. I guess
38:49
Shelley did have the English light heavy title.
38:55
For whatever that's worth. Apparently, it's worth
38:58
a lot. Oh, man. Speaking of who does that to
39:08
XYZ Fighter, Daniel Dubois stops Fabio Wardley
39:13
in the 11th. What are your thoughts on the timing
39:19
of the stoppage? It's a bit late. I agree. A
39:24
few rounds too late. Yeah. Wardley's corner was
39:32
waiting for him to hit the triple sevens. And
39:35
after about round nine. I was going to say eight.
39:39
Yeah. There's absolutely no way that was happening.
39:45
To his credit, Wardley was still trying. Yeah.
39:49
Fuck. Wardley's got more dog than anybody. He
39:55
wasn't going to stop, and he wasn't going to
39:58
tell his corner to stop it, but somebody should
40:00
have saved that man. I think the fucking doctor
40:03
should have saved him. The second time he checked
40:06
that eye and let him out, I was like, what are
40:08
you doing? But I gotta give it to Dubois. He
40:15
got up twice. Apparently flash KDs, according
40:22
to Daniel, anyway. I think the first one was
40:26
that when he took a knee in the third, I don't
40:29
think that was a flash knockdown. I don't either.
40:34
That really quick one in the first, I'll agree,
40:38
was a flash knockdown. But this fight was crazy.
40:44
I do not understand how Wardley took that much
40:47
punishment and never went down. He never hit
40:50
the canvas. What I would what I noticed was during
41:00
the during the like the later rounds, whenever
41:05
Fabio Wardley would get into trouble, there was
41:09
at most a minute left on the clock. And he would
41:14
he would be able to just survive that one minute
41:17
and then he gets the round break. And that's
41:21
how a lot of his a lot of those like. those later
41:25
rounds when you're like what when i'm thinking
41:28
about the ref like what more do you want to see
41:31
i don't i don't know what else you need to make
41:34
a minute's a long time it is for dubois to be
41:36
teeing off on him like and he had no defense
41:40
at all yeah like if if it was joseph parker he
41:50
would have pulled the plug already He did pull
41:53
the plug already on Joseph Parker. There was
41:57
a couple times where Wardley was not walking
42:00
well and they let him continue. Like, when they
42:04
do the take two steps towards me. That fight
42:08
should have been stopped earlier. Wardley took
42:11
a bunch, a bunch of damage for absolutely no
42:15
reason. Yeah. When he was leaving the ring, he
42:23
was standing on the apron, yelling at his mom
42:26
that he was okay. I was like, you are not okay,
42:28
sir. Please go to the hospital. But Dubois looked
42:36
good. He did. Man, I thought I was like, I'm
42:41
not betting against Fabio Wardley ever again.
42:45
Now, if they rematch, I don't... I don't know
42:49
if I could bet against Daniel Dubois. Yeah, yeah,
42:54
okay. So you said Wardley activated his rematch
42:58
clause? Correct. I think that's a bad move. He
43:03
got soundly outboxed and beat the fuck up. I
43:07
don't see the rematch really going any different.
43:11
Yeah, I don't see it going better for him. I
43:14
guess the two knockdowns probably are giving
43:17
him hope. That next time he can keep Dubois down.
43:22
But I think it's a bad move. I think Wardley,
43:26
if I was managing Wardley, I would try and talk
43:29
him into taking a step back and actually working
43:32
on his boxing. Add a little bit of defense to
43:37
that power and... Well, he's dangerous now, but
43:43
add a little bit of defense and footwork and
43:45
actual boxing if you can. Something. Get a little
43:52
bit of... Watch some Mike Tyson highlight videos.
43:57
Give you an idea of how to move your fucking
44:00
head. Yeah, I think Wardley's maybe a little
44:04
too big for a Mike Tyson style. But even if he
44:12
shoots for the Mike Tyson moon and he misses,
44:16
he'll land amongst the heavyweight stars. The
44:22
cheesiest thing you've ever said. That was pretty
44:25
goddamn bad. I'm ashamed of myself. Oh, God.
44:31
But this was a fucking banger of a heavyweight
44:36
fight. I usually don't like the heavies. If anybody
44:40
has missed this, and I don't know how you would
44:42
have, but you have to go find a replay. Yes,
44:48
definitely get this one on replay. I might rewatch
44:51
it just for the fun of it. Yeah. And whatever
44:55
they charged for this card, the pay -per -view
44:57
was worth it. I don't know what they charged,
45:01
but this whole card was fun. This was possibly
45:05
card of the year. I don't know. Maybe I could
45:15
get a refund and use the money to pay for the
45:20
therapy I need. I'm watching David Morrell get
45:24
knocked the fuck out. By a school teacher. He
45:30
was out on his feet. He was like dead man walking.
45:35
Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, those are the two
45:42
fights you absolutely have to see from this card.
45:46
The Bradley Ray one was pretty fun, like, while
45:49
it lasted. Rafferty retiring Esserman, not bad.
45:55
Yeah. Made me sad. I like Gekko Esserman. I do
46:00
too. But then, Fabio Wardley being a fucking
46:05
lunatic in the main, like... Just go down, man.
46:11
He was just spamming power shots. At first, he
46:17
was just swinging super wide with his hooks.
46:20
And then as the fight progressed, he switched
46:23
to the one -two, where he tried to just land
46:26
the bomb overhand right. But he forgot the one
46:31
by the end. He was just... Just winging it. Just
46:35
winging twos. It's crazy. That was a good fight.
46:44
Does that... Would that go into fight of the
46:48
year or beatdown of the year? I feel like beatdown
46:51
is a little bit more apt. Yeah. Sorry, Fabio.
46:58
That's... You'll be... At the mid -year point,
47:01
you'll probably be a more memorialized... Yeah.
47:06
I can't imagine anything... Before the end of
47:11
June, topping that for beatdown. Dubois was late
47:15
to the venue because he was partying again. Really?
47:19
It's crazy. Yeah. Man. Apparently he does that
47:24
every time. We just only heard about it when
47:27
he lost. So what does a fully rested, non -partied
47:34
Daniel Dubois look like? Is that mythical status?
47:42
What does Daniel Duvall look like if you get
47:45
him away from his father? Ask Caroline. She's
47:52
doing well. She's doing great. Anything more
47:56
for the Queensbury card? Nah, I think that covers
47:59
it. Hell of a card. Upset of the year and beat
48:03
down of the year. Both on the same card. Hell
48:06
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48:15
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48:19
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48:23
one time, he did not hit triple sevens. It was
48:26
cherry, cherry, bar. Fucking bomb, bomb, bomb.
48:31
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48:38
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May 22nd. Golden Boy on DAZN at the SAP Center
52:08
in San Jose, California. This is an interesting
52:15
card. It's actually not bad. for Golden Boy,
52:19
given the state that Golden Boy's currently in.
52:21
Headlining, Amari Jones versus Vincenzo Gualtieri.
52:26
Scrappy Ramirez versus Lucas Fernandez. Jordan
52:32
Panthen, if you remember him. I think he's the
52:37
blue -collar worker guy. Yeah. Yeah. His nickname
52:43
is The Patriot, yeah. He's on a... Losing streak.
52:49
Yeah. He stepped in on super, super hours short
52:54
notice against Raul Curiel and he gave him a
52:58
pretty decent fight. Like all things considered.
53:05
He's facing John Rivera Pacheco. Robin Safar
53:10
versus Yamil Peralta. Darius Fulgham. Versus
53:18
Joanki Urrutia. They've got some international
53:22
folks on this card. Where are you from? He's
53:26
cute. Safar is from Sweden. You don't see very
53:30
many Scandinavians. But yeah, that's the golden
53:38
boy card. They've got a Mongolian too. this is
53:44
very international a sweden an argentinian volgum's
53:53
american yeah uh golden boy is kind of dying
54:01
but it's a slow death they could come back too
54:09
really who's german gualtieri With a name like
54:14
that, you wouldn't expect it. This might be the
54:21
most international card I've noticed. That's
54:24
like eight countries. Puerto Rico. If you want
54:30
to count that separately. Mexico. Now I'm just
54:38
checking everybody's. Oh, shit. Bosnia. Herzegovina.
54:44
Anel Duda. Who's that? At the very bottom. Ah.
54:48
Yeah, that's like eight countries. It's a few.
54:52
Quite a few. Argentina. Kind of bad when that's
55:01
the most interesting thing about the card. They
55:04
got a pair of Argentines on here. But yeah. Walkouts
55:08
should be fun. Yeah, it should be a good... It
55:13
should be... It's boxing on a Friday, so, you
55:16
know, enjoy it. But, you know, if you got other
55:20
plans, then don't be too fussed. You're not missing
55:25
a whole lot. Scrappy Ramirez isn't, like, somebody
55:30
to be writing about. He's not worth... Yeah,
55:32
not worth changing your plans. Oh, but changing
55:37
your plans for Gloria Giza. On the zone. At the
55:44
Pyramids of Giza. What do we got here? You know
55:51
who I'm excited for. They have four fights on
55:55
the prelims that we still don't have the round
55:59
count yet. For two of them, we don't even have
56:02
the fucking weight class yet. That's crazy. Yeah,
56:09
at this point, you'd think you'd have your shit
56:11
together. I need to know where this dude is from.
56:14
His name is Deddy Imprax. Indonesia. But let's
56:24
start on the main portion here. Mizuki Hiruta,
56:27
WBO Superflyweight Champion versus Mai Soliman.
56:34
I'm excited about this one. Just because it's
56:38
Mimi. She is fighting... I was just going to
56:42
say, she is fighting an Egyptian that moved to
56:44
Australia. That's pretty cool. I'm sure RJ is
56:49
excited about that one too. She is pretty. Yeah.
56:58
I am most... I honestly am not expecting all
57:03
that much out of Soliman. Yeah. But I'm always
57:12
just excited for Mimi Walkout, to be honest.
57:14
Her ring attire, walkout attire. Yeah. She's
57:18
always very fashionable. Hamza Shiraz versus
57:25
Alim Begich. Yeah, this is going to be pretty
57:33
one -sided, right? Yeah, I think so. Hold on,
57:37
I want to check. rankings are for super middleweight.
57:46
Hamza Shiraz is number two. Begich is number
57:49
four. And this is a decent matchup, I guess.
57:53
Vacant title fight. It could be interesting,
58:00
but I'm really just expecting Shiraz to really
58:03
just outbox him. I wouldn't be surprised if he
58:07
stopped him, to be completely honest. Could happen.
58:18
Begich is German. He's fought a lot in Austria.
58:26
And other than that, mostly fighting in Germany.
58:31
I don't recognize a whole bunch of the names.
58:34
I don't really watch his weight class, but I
58:38
don't recognize many of the people he's fought.
58:42
Do you recognize Frank Sanchez versus Richard
58:45
Torres? I do. I don't know what to expect from
58:53
this fight, to be honest. I'm thinking that Frank
58:58
Sanchez is still going to be having knee issues,
59:01
and so his mobility is going to be drastically
59:05
reduced. And Richard Torres is just going to
59:09
kind of... style on him as he's moving around
59:12
him. With his tap dancing feet? Yep. I like Richard
59:19
Torres. I'm going to be cheering for him. Me
59:23
too. Frank Sanchez is also old, right? He's a
59:28
Cuban 33? That's pretty old. Oh, his date, his
59:35
age. He's enlisted because he's inactive. Ah.
59:46
And then co -main is Jack Catterall and Shakrim
59:51
Giyasov. Yeah. This is for the regular WBA title.
1:00:00
I'm not sure how Rawley got out of having to
1:00:04
fight Giyasov. Politics. I suppose. I'm not very
1:00:12
excited about the co -main, to be honest. I'm
1:00:14
more excited about the ones that we talked about
1:00:16
before it. Yeah. I know... Kataral is not with
1:00:23
the Ennis camp for this one. I'm surprised. He's
1:00:29
back to Jack. He's not Jeron anymore. He's not
1:00:32
Jackron. That's it. But main event, Oleksandr
1:00:41
Usyk, Rico Verhoeven, WBC heavyweight title on
1:00:45
the line. I do not care about this at all. The
1:00:53
WBA and IBF are recognizing this as a sanctioned
1:01:01
bout for them. Their titles are not on the line.
1:01:05
No title should be on the line. It's fucking
1:01:09
ridiculous to see a 1 -0 fighter. And Rico's
1:01:14
only boxing match, correct me if I'm wrong, was
1:01:17
a four -rounder. Knockout in two. Of the four.
1:01:22
Yeah, but he should not be fighting for any titles
1:01:28
in boxing. He's an amazing kickboxer, but that
1:01:32
doesn't count. Yeah, like WBC, if you want to
1:01:38
make a fucking commemorative pyramid spell, then
1:01:42
go ahead, dude. You'd do that for fucking everything
1:01:44
else. Yeah. This is stupid. Would you be as down
1:01:56
on it if the WBC title was not on the line? If
1:02:02
the title wasn't on the line, I wouldn't care.
1:02:05
As much. Like, letting somebody who's 1 -0 fight
1:02:10
for the title is just... It makes boxing look
1:02:14
bad. Yes. The WBC having no scruples about putting
1:02:20
their title on the line just makes boxing look
1:02:23
corrupt and circus -y. If Usyk was just fighting
1:02:28
Verhoeven in a professional bout, but basically
1:02:32
an exhibition, like... nothing important is on
1:02:35
the line, it would be fine. Usyk deserves to
1:02:39
go get his bag, and Verhoeven deserves a big
1:02:43
payday, because I don't think the kickboxers
1:02:45
get paid very well at all. Yeah, not as well
1:02:48
as boxers do. So, I have no problem with the
1:02:52
fight as a fight, but the title is ridiculous.
1:02:58
IBF is going to be mandating, they're calling
1:03:02
their mandatory, At six months. It has to be
1:03:08
set up within six months of this fight being
1:03:11
completed. And who's their mandatory? I always
1:03:14
forget who's in what line. One and two are empty.
1:03:17
Frank Sanchez and Richard Torres are fighting
1:03:20
the IBF final eliminator. Okay, so the winner
1:03:24
of that one becomes the mandatory? Yes. That's
1:03:29
fair. Do you think Usyk takes that mandatory
1:03:33
or just drops the belt again? I would kind of
1:03:37
prefer that he drops the belt. And I would like
1:03:40
for him to, if you want to keep doing these like
1:03:42
circus acts, go right ahead, dude. Like you said,
1:03:45
get your bag. Like these other dudes are going
1:03:48
to want to get in the ring with you because it
1:03:50
gets them a big payday. And you're one of Turkey's
1:03:56
favorite action figures. So he's going to continue
1:03:59
paying you. Yeah, whether you have the belt or
1:04:03
not, you're gonna make money. You're still the
1:04:06
guy. The heavyweight guy, regardless of who has
1:04:09
a belt around their waist or not. Yeah, I think
1:04:14
Usyk just drops this belt. Whoever wins that
1:04:18
fight isn't gonna get him as much money as any
1:04:22
of the fights he's mentioned. Ah, Fury 3? No
1:04:27
thank you. Yeah, no thank you. I guess the Wilder
1:04:32
one has some interest, but not really. Honestly,
1:04:39
at this point, I don't think Usyk has any fights
1:04:42
I'm very excited for. No, at this point, no.
1:04:47
He's just beat everybody. There's no one new
1:04:51
for him to style on. I guess the Moses Satauma
1:04:57
one. Might be interesting, but that's moving
1:05:00
a Tauma way too fast. Uh, Kabael? I think that's
1:05:08
a good fight for him to take. Yeah. Yeah, I guess
1:05:13
that one, that one would be an interesting new
1:05:16
fight, but, like, at this point, almost, it's
1:05:20
like Usyk just retire amazing. Like... There's
1:05:25
nothing left for him to do. Nah, he's ran the
1:05:29
board twice. I still have Alan Begich. I have
1:05:37
his box rec up still. There's a guy named Nenad
1:05:41
Stankovich. Stankovich? Yeah. Nice. Nice. That
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seems like it would be the name of a really...
1:05:52
Bad guy in a comic? No, cheesy rapper that makes...
1:05:57
Like weed music. Yeah. But that's it. That's
1:06:04
all we got. Yeah. I think the Pyramids card's
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going to be a spectacle. I hope they don't make
1:06:15
it too much spectacle. I'm glad the singer said
1:06:18
she wasn't doing a concert. I forget which one
1:06:21
they were trying to get. It was either Olivia
1:06:26
Rodrigo or Doja Cat. I think it was Doja Cat.
1:06:34
That doesn't sound right. Dilupa? Is Dilupa a
1:06:37
person? Dua Lipa. Yeah, there we go. I knew I
1:06:44
wasn't going to get the name right. But I'm glad
1:06:47
there's no concert. I hope they keep it mostly
1:06:50
on time. But there's a few fights I'm excited
1:06:54
for. Yeah, there's some good fights on the undercard.
1:07:00
Like, what are we looking... What's the over
1:07:04
-under on Rico throwing a kick? It would be kind
1:07:12
of funny. That would be a hell of a way for the
1:07:15
fight to end. He fucks up and throws a head kick
1:07:17
and gets disqualified. What's the timing on this
1:07:25
one? Egypt would be close to UK time? I would
1:07:32
say a few hours ahead. That's going to be awful
1:07:35
timing. It's going to start at like 11pm for
1:07:38
me. I think it starts at 10am West Coast time.
1:07:45
Your 17 hours? West Coast is 17 hours for me?
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Yes. So 10 p .m. plus seven hours. Oh, that's
1:07:55
not so bad. Start at like 7 a .m. Not too bad.
1:08:00
All right. Well, I guess if that's all we have
1:08:02
this week. That's it. Watch some international
1:08:06
shit on Golden Boy the day before and then watch
1:08:09
some spectacle at the pyramids. Can you believe
1:08:13
David Morrell got knocked out by a fucking teacher?
1:08:16
No. That's still shocking. God damn. Like he
1:08:22
hit the power switch on him. He did. He hit the
1:08:26
power switch on him. It was... Wow. That's going
1:08:30
to be hard to beat for upset of the year. That's
1:08:33
random Frenchmen knocking out Munguia levels.
1:08:38
But worse, because Morales was supposed to be
1:08:42
better than Munguia. Yeah. And Saras was... Whatever
1:08:48
his record may have been, he was still like a
1:08:50
full -time fighter. Yeah. Mr. Chelly, why do
1:08:55
you have a black eye? I get a black eye every
1:09:02
time you don't turn in your homework. All right.
1:09:07
So we are heading into Gloria Giza. Parting words.
1:09:14
I'm going to go make some Yakuza friends this
1:09:16
weekend. So if I'm not back next week, you know
1:09:20
what happened. Or you're missing a pinky. I need
1:09:24
that. I don't have parting words. Guarana. Look
1:09:34
it up. It's freaky. Yeah, the fruits are eldritch
1:09:39
horrors. Seriously, they look freaky. They look
1:09:43
like they could be in like a Legend of Zelda
1:09:45
game. Like if you get too close to it, it'll
1:09:47
attack you. But yeah, look those up. That's it
1:09:53
for this edition of Boxing Before Dark. We'll
1:09:56
fucking see you on the other side of Giza. Bye.
1:10:14
How do you want to convince them to watch MMA
1:10:16
instead? Or not instead, but just to start watching
1:10:20
MMA? I'm going to go, like, a different route
1:10:23
than Nathan went. I'm going to go with, first
1:10:26
of all, I think MMA has more frequent watchable
1:10:31
events. You know, there's some weeks in boxing
1:10:34
where it's, like, it's either super degenerate
1:10:36
or, like, no names, whatever. I think in UFC,
1:10:39
there's, like, it's slightly better at times.
1:10:42
And then... the big big point it's just more
1:10:45
hectic i think mma at times is just more hectic
1:10:48
you're seeing stuff from street fights all the
1:10:51
way to like movie type fights uh you know you
1:10:54
got roundhouse kicks uh straight up like bar
1:10:57
fights at times uh you just you get a wider range
1:11:00
of enjoyable fights i i would say um and then
1:11:06
just like i don't know it's just it's more enjoyable
1:11:10
the fact The fact that at times you get to see
1:11:11
just guys like standing and banging, it's just
1:11:14
more primal in a way is what I'd say. That's
1:11:18
how I would try to convince like boxing only
1:11:20
fans that it's just more if you enjoy chaos.
1:11:24
We saw it in the Wild Riches or fight. If you
1:11:26
enjoy that type chaos, you know, because that
1:11:29
wasn't exactly like a bunch of technique in that
1:11:31
fight. But if you enjoyed something like that,
1:11:33
I would definitely try out MMA just because.
1:11:38
At times, there is high -level things, and that
1:11:41
is incredible to watch. People like Mauricio
1:11:43
Hufi, you're seeing incredible knockouts with
1:11:46
kicks. But even the lower -level stuff can be
1:11:51
enjoyable, with people just going to town on
1:11:53
each other, standing and banging. That'd probably
1:11:57
be the driving point that I would say to boxing
1:12:00
only fans, is that if you enjoy that chaos, I
1:12:04
would say definitely give MMA a try. If you like
1:12:07
chaos, I like that. If you do decide to give
1:12:10
MMA a shot, well, you can check out Ultimate
1:12:13
FN Casuals. You can hear us chat about all the
1:12:16
fights that happen every weekend, just like on
1:12:18
the boxing side.