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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:05Welcome
- 0:06back
- 0:06my
- 0:06friends
- 0:07to
- 0:07another
- 0:07episode
- 0:08of
- 0:08Pearls
- 0:08and
- 0:08Prep
- 0:09npz.
- 0:09Here
- 0:10your
- 0:10preceptor
- 0:10in
- 0:11your
- 0:11pocket,
- 0:11your
- 0:11go
- 0:12to
- 0:12place
- 0:12for
- 0:12pearls
- 0:13that
- 0:13prep
- 0:13you
- 0:14to
- 0:14practice.
- 0:15Today
- 0:15my
- 0:15friends,
- 0:16we
- 0:16are
- 0:16going
- 0:16to
- 0:16enter
- 0:17the
- 0:17fascinating
- 0:18world
- 0:19of
- 0:19Luvox,
- 0:20An
- 0:20SSRI
- 0:21that
- 0:22you
- 0:22have
- 0:22probably
- 0:23never
- 0:23prescribed
- 0:24in
- 0:24your
- 0:24life.
- 0:25You
- 0:25might
- 0:25have
- 0:25only
- 0:26seen
- 0:26it
- 0:26in
- 0:26the
- 0:26movies
- 0:27or,
- 0:27or
- 0:27in
- 0:27your
- 0:28lectures.
- 0:28It
- 0:29is
- 0:29also
- 0:29known
- 0:29as
- 0:30Fluvoxamine.
- 0:31It's
- 0:31a
- 0:31super
- 0:32uncommonly
- 0:33prescribed
- 0:33SSRI
- 0:34for
- 0:35known
- 0:35reasons
- 0:36and
- 0:36a
- 0:36lot
- 0:36of
- 0:36unknown
- 0:37reasons.
- 0:37I
- 0:37don't
- 0:37think
- 0:38this
- 0:38medication
- 0:38quite
- 0:39gets
- 0:40the
- 0:40credit
- 0:41it
- 0:41deserves.
- 0:42And
- 0:42we're
- 0:42gonna
- 0:42take
- 0:43a
- 0:43critical
- 0:43look
- 0:43at
- 0:43it
- 0:44and
- 0:44at
- 0:45least
- 0:45empower
- 0:45you
- 0:46to
- 0:47keep
- 0:47it
- 0:47as
- 0:47an
- 0:47option
- 0:48in
- 0:48select
- 0:49patients
- 0:49where
- 0:50it
- 0:50might
- 0:50make
- 0:51the
- 0:51most
- 0:51sense.
- 0:52Now
- 0:54I
- 0:54can
- 0:54tell
- 0:54you
- 0:55off
- 0:55the
- 0:55bat
- 0:56that
- 0:57a
- 0:57lot
- 0:57of
- 0:57the
- 0:58reasons
- 0:58people
- 0:58don't
- 0:59prescribe
- 0:59Luvox
- 1:00is
- 1:01because
- 1:01of
- 1:01its
- 1:01CYP
- 1:03metabolic
- 1:03interactions.
- 1:04It
- 1:05can
- 1:05be
- 1:05very
- 1:05problematic.
- 1:06It
- 1:06can
- 1:06inhibit
- 1:07a
- 1:07lot
- 1:07of
- 1:07other
- 1:08medications.
- 1:09However,
- 1:09if
- 1:09you
- 1:09work
- 1:10with
- 1:10a
- 1:10population
- 1:10that
- 1:11is
- 1:11not
- 1:11very
- 1:12acute,
- 1:12there's
- 1:12not
- 1:13a
- 1:13lot
- 1:13of
- 1:13polypharmacy.
- 1:14I
- 1:14think
- 1:14it's
- 1:15something
- 1:15we
- 1:15should
- 1:15definitely
- 1:16reconsider.
- 1:16It's
- 1:17an
- 1:17SSRI
- 1:18just
- 1:18like
- 1:18the
- 1:18rest
- 1:19of
- 1:19the
- 1:19and
- 1:19it
- 1:19even
- 1:19has
- 1:20some
- 1:20really
- 1:21unique
- 1:21properties
- 1:22that
- 1:23we
- 1:23can
- 1:24exploit
- 1:25and
- 1:25leverage
- 1:26to
- 1:26improve
- 1:27our
- 1:27patients
- 1:27lives.
- 1:28So
- 1:29let's
- 1:29get
- 1:29into
- 1:29it,
- 1:29my
- 1:30friend.
- 1:30So
- 1:31Luvox
- 1:32is
- 1:32actually
- 1:32FDA
- 1:33approved
- 1:33for
- 1:34OCD
- 1:34and
- 1:35for
- 1:35social
- 1:35anxiety
- 1:36disorder.
- 1:36Very
- 1:36interestingly,
- 1:37it's
- 1:37not
- 1:38FDA
- 1:38approved
- 1:39for
- 1:39mdd.
- 1:39And
- 1:40that
- 1:40might
- 1:40be
- 1:40why
- 1:41some
- 1:41people
- 1:41are
- 1:41hesitant,
- 1:42why
- 1:42they
- 1:42don't
- 1:42go
- 1:42straight
- 1:43to
- 1:43Luvox
- 1:44when
- 1:44they
- 1:44could
- 1:44be
- 1:44going
- 1:45to
- 1:46other
- 1:47medications.
- 1:48Obviously
- 1:49Lexapro,
- 1:49Prozac,
- 1:51Zoloft,
- 1:51those
- 1:52are
- 1:52the
- 1:52most
- 1:53common
- 1:54medications
- 1:54that
- 1:54people
- 1:55reach
- 1:55to
- 1:55for
- 1:55depression
- 1:56or
- 1:56GAD
- 1:56or
- 1:57ptsd.
- 1:58Luvox
- 1:58doesn't
- 1:59seem
- 1:59to
- 1:59be
- 1:59on
- 1:59the
- 1:59radar.
- 2:00And
- 2:00I
- 2:00think
- 2:00part
- 2:00of
- 2:00that
- 2:00is
- 2:01because
- 2:01of
- 2:01all
- 2:01the
- 2:01drug
- 2:02interactions.
- 2:02You've
- 2:03got
- 2:03to
- 2:03run
- 2:03these
- 2:03complex
- 2:04interaction
- 2:05checks.
- 2:05And
- 2:06once
- 2:06you
- 2:06place
- 2:06somebody
- 2:07on
- 2:07Luvox,
- 2:08especially
- 2:08if
- 2:08they're
- 2:08older
- 2:09and
- 2:09there's
- 2:09more
- 2:09polypharmacy,
- 2:10then
- 2:11you
- 2:11definitely
- 2:13are
- 2:14having
- 2:14to
- 2:14play
- 2:14a
- 2:15lot
- 2:15of
- 2:15dodgeball.
- 2:15Right?
- 2:16There's
- 2:16a
- 2:16lot
- 2:16of
- 2:16medications
- 2:17they
- 2:17can't
- 2:18necessarily
- 2:19pursue
- 2:19anymore
- 2:20and
- 2:20that
- 2:20puts
- 2:20your
- 2:21patient
- 2:21in
- 2:21a
- 2:21difficult
- 2:22situation.
- 2:22And
- 2:22why
- 2:22would
- 2:22you
- 2:23want
- 2:23to
- 2:23do
- 2:23that
- 2:23when
- 2:24all
- 2:24the
- 2:24SSRIs
- 2:25are
- 2:25more
- 2:26or
- 2:26less
- 2:26equally
- 2:27efficacious?
- 2:28So
- 2:29pick
- 2:29the
- 2:30ones
- 2:30that
- 2:30have
- 2:30minimal
- 2:31CYP
- 2:31interactions.
- 2:32Right.
- 2:32Something
- 2:32maybe
- 2:33like
- 2:33Lexapro
- 2:34would
- 2:34be
- 2:34a
- 2:35lot
- 2:35cleaner
- 2:35and
- 2:35a
- 2:35lot
- 2:35more
- 2:36simple
- 2:36in
- 2:36this
- 2:36case.
- 2:37You
- 2:37could
- 2:37even
- 2:37go
- 2:38for
- 2:38Remeron.
- 2:38Right?
- 2:39It
- 2:39helps
- 2:39you
- 2:40sleep.
- 2:40So
- 2:40does
- 2:40Luvox.
- 2:41So
- 2:41why
- 2:41would
- 2:41we
- 2:41go
- 2:42for
- 2:42Luvox?
- 2:43All
- 2:44very
- 2:44fair
- 2:44questions,
- 2:45but
- 2:45again,
- 2:45the
- 2:46devil's
- 2:46in
- 2:46the
- 2:46details
- 2:47here.
- 2:47And
- 2:47although
- 2:48I
- 2:48would.
- 2:48Although
- 2:49I
- 2:49can't
- 2:49argue
- 2:49with
- 2:49the
- 2:50fact
- 2:50that
- 2:51we
- 2:51were
- 2:51all
- 2:51taught
- 2:52that
- 2:52SSRIs
- 2:52are
- 2:53mostly
- 2:53all
- 2:53equally
- 2:54efficacious,
- 2:55I
- 2:55would
- 2:55argue
- 2:56that
- 2:56that
- 2:56is
- 2:56true
- 2:57in
- 2:57theory
- 2:57in
- 2:57your
- 2:58textbook,
- 2:58but
- 2:58it
- 2:59is
- 2:59not
- 2:59necessarily
- 3:00true
- 3:00in
- 3:00person
- 3:01with
- 3:01your
- 3:01patient.
- 3:02Because
- 3:02remember,
- 3:02your
- 3:03patient
- 3:03is
- 3:04going
- 3:04to
- 3:04have
- 3:04the.
- 3:05Their
- 3:05own
- 3:05preferences
- 3:07and
- 3:07their
- 3:07own
- 3:08deal
- 3:08breakers.
- 3:08Right.
- 3:09Some
- 3:09patients
- 3:09will
- 3:09absolutely
- 3:10refuse
- 3:11to
- 3:11gain
- 3:11weight
- 3:11on
- 3:12an
- 3:12antidepressant.
- 3:13Well,
- 3:13then
- 3:13Remeron
- 3:14is
- 3:14really
- 3:14not
- 3:14as
- 3:14efficacious,
- 3:15at
- 3:15least
- 3:16for
- 3:16that
- 3:16patient.
- 3:17It
- 3:17might
- 3:17be
- 3:17in
- 3:17population
- 3:18based
- 3:18studies
- 3:18and
- 3:19RCTs,
- 3:19that's
- 3:20fine,
- 3:20but
- 3:20that
- 3:21lives
- 3:21in
- 3:22research
- 3:22studies.
- 3:23What
- 3:23lives
- 3:23in
- 3:23your
- 3:23office,
- 3:24in
- 3:24your
- 3:24outpatient
- 3:25practice
- 3:26is
- 3:26a
- 3:26flesh
- 3:27and
- 3:27bone
- 3:28patient
- 3:29who's
- 3:29going
- 3:29through
- 3:29something.
- 3:30And.
- 3:30And
- 3:30so
- 3:31not
- 3:31all
- 3:31SSRIs
- 3:32are
- 3:32equal,
- 3:33actually,
- 3:34when
- 3:34you
- 3:34have
- 3:34a
- 3:35patient
- 3:35in
- 3:35front
- 3:35of
- 3:35you
- 3:35who
- 3:36has
- 3:36a
- 3:36certain
- 3:36deal
- 3:37breaker.
- 3:37Okay.
- 3:38And
- 3:38I'm
- 3:38using
- 3:38SSRIs
- 3:39very
- 3:39broadly
- 3:40here.
- 3:40Technically,
- 3:41Remeron
- 3:42is
- 3:42not
- 3:42an
- 3:42SSRI
- 3:44by
- 3:44a
- 3:44conventional
- 3:45definition.
- 3:46Okay.
- 3:48But
- 3:48my
- 3:48greater
- 3:49point
- 3:49is
- 3:49with
- 3:50all
- 3:50of
- 3:50the
- 3:50common
- 3:51medications
- 3:51that
- 3:52we
- 3:52typically
- 3:52prescribe,
- 3:53statistically
- 3:54they
- 3:54might
- 3:54be
- 3:55more
- 3:55or
- 3:55less
- 3:55equal,
- 3:55but
- 3:56with,
- 3:56with
- 3:56respect
- 3:56to
- 3:56your
- 3:57individual
- 3:57patient,
- 3:57they
- 3:58are
- 3:58not.
- 3:58And
- 3:59so
- 3:59this
- 3:59is
- 3:59where
- 4:00Luvox
- 4:01might
- 4:01have
- 4:01an
- 4:02important
- 4:02play
- 4:02in
- 4:02a
- 4:03particular
- 4:03patient.
- 4:04So
- 4:04what
- 4:04really
- 4:05separates
- 4:05Luvox
- 4:06from
- 4:06Prozac
- 4:07or
- 4:08Lexapro?
- 4:09There's
- 4:10a
- 4:11very
- 4:11important
- 4:11feature
- 4:12of
- 4:12it,
- 4:13and
- 4:13it
- 4:13is
- 4:14the
- 4:14fact
- 4:14that
- 4:14Luvox
- 4:15has
- 4:15a
- 4:15pretty
- 4:15high
- 4:16affinity
- 4:16for
- 4:17the
- 4:17sigma
- 4:171
- 4:18receptor
- 4:18receptor.
- 4:19What
- 4:19is
- 4:20that?
- 4:20It's
- 4:20not
- 4:21a
- 4:21very
- 4:21common
- 4:21thing
- 4:22we
- 4:22talk
- 4:22about
- 4:22in
- 4:22psychiatry.
- 4:23I
- 4:23think
- 4:23there
- 4:23is
- 4:24growing
- 4:24interest
- 4:24in
- 4:24the
- 4:25sigma
- 4:251
- 4:25receptor.
- 4:26I
- 4:26think
- 4:26we
- 4:26should
- 4:27all
- 4:27kind
- 4:27of
- 4:27do
- 4:27nerdy
- 4:28deep
- 4:28dives
- 4:28into
- 4:29it
- 4:29to
- 4:29explore
- 4:29it
- 4:30more.
- 4:30It's
- 4:30very
- 4:30fascinating,
- 4:31but
- 4:31it
- 4:31has
- 4:32the
- 4:33most
- 4:33potent
- 4:33sigma
- 4:341
- 4:34receptor
- 4:35agonism
- 4:36among
- 4:36all
- 4:36the
- 4:36SSRIs,
- 4:37but
- 4:37it's
- 4:38really
- 4:38not
- 4:38even
- 4:38close.
- 4:38So
- 4:39if
- 4:39we're
- 4:39talking
- 4:39about
- 4:39sigma
- 4:401
- 4:40receptor,
- 4:40Luvox
- 4:41is
- 4:41the
- 4:41name
- 4:41of
- 4:42the
- 4:42game.
- 4:42And
- 4:43with
- 4:43Sigma
- 4:431,
- 4:44what
- 4:44we're
- 4:44talking
- 4:44about
- 4:45in
- 4:45particular
- 4:45is
- 4:45neuroprotection
- 4:46and
- 4:47neuroplasticity.
- 4:47Well,
- 4:48you
- 4:48can
- 4:48imagine
- 4:49if
- 4:50the
- 4:50evidence
- 4:50suggests
- 4:50that
- 4:51sigma
- 4:511
- 4:52agonism
- 4:54eventually
- 4:55leads
- 4:56to
- 4:56neuroprotection
- 4:57and
- 4:57neuroplasticity.
- 4:58Well,
- 4:58that
- 4:58is
- 4:58fundamentally
- 4:59critical
- 5:00in
- 5:01a
- 5:02condition
- 5:02like
- 5:03depression
- 5:03or
- 5:03anxiety
- 5:04or
- 5:04O
- 5:04C
- 5:04D,
- 5:05because
- 5:06all
- 5:06of
- 5:06those
- 5:07disorders
- 5:08are
- 5:08essentially
- 5:09thought
- 5:10disorders
- 5:11on
- 5:11some
- 5:12level.
- 5:12Right.
- 5:12There's
- 5:13they're
- 5:13brain
- 5:13network
- 5:14disorders
- 5:15that
- 5:15ought
- 5:15to
- 5:15be
- 5:16reconfigured
- 5:16and
- 5:16reorganized.
- 5:17It's
- 5:17the
- 5:17same
- 5:18reason
- 5:18people
- 5:19pursue
- 5:19psychotherapy.
- 5:20Well,
- 5:20now
- 5:21you
- 5:21have
- 5:21a
- 5:21medication
- 5:22that
- 5:22can
- 5:23more
- 5:23directly
- 5:24enhance
- 5:25neuroplasticity
- 5:26and
- 5:26neuroprotection
- 5:27more
- 5:27broadly.
- 5:28That's
- 5:29a
- 5:29really
- 5:29big
- 5:29deal.
- 5:29And
- 5:29that
- 5:30happens
- 5:30exclusively
- 5:31through
- 5:31the
- 5:32sigma
- 5:321
- 5:33receptor.
- 5:34Very
- 5:34neat.
- 5:35Another
- 5:36important
- 5:36piece
- 5:37of
- 5:37the
- 5:37sigma
- 5:371
- 5:38receptor
- 5:39is
- 5:40cognitive
- 5:40enhancement.
- 5:41Okay,
- 5:42so
- 5:42you
- 5:42have
- 5:43a
- 5:43lot
- 5:43of
- 5:43patients,
- 5:43of
- 5:43course,
- 5:44that
- 5:44come
- 5:44to
- 5:44you
- 5:44with
- 5:44cognitive
- 5:45deficits.
- 5:46And
- 5:46right
- 5:46now
- 5:46we
- 5:47kind
- 5:47of
- 5:47gravitate
- 5:47towards
- 5:48Trintellix
- 5:48when
- 5:49they
- 5:49have
- 5:49cognitive
- 5:49deficits
- 5:51instead
- 5:51of
- 5:51getting
- 5:51a
- 5:52prior
- 5:52authorization
- 5:53and
- 5:53waiting
- 5:53several
- 5:54weeks
- 5:54or
- 5:55having
- 5:55your
- 5:55patient's
- 5:56insurance
- 5:57not
- 5:58approve
- 5:58of
- 5:58Trintellix.
- 5:59We
- 5:59do
- 5:59have
- 6:00Luvox
- 6:01here
- 6:01that
- 6:01has
- 6:01sigma
- 6:021
- 6:02receptor
- 6:03agonism
- 6:03and
- 6:04it
- 6:04has
- 6:04shown
- 6:05to
- 6:05actually
- 6:06improve
- 6:07cognitive
- 6:08deficits.
- 6:09And
- 6:09that's
- 6:09really
- 6:09exciting.
- 6:10It's
- 6:10also
- 6:10anti
- 6:11inflammatory.
- 6:11It's
- 6:12a
- 6:12very
- 6:13interesting
- 6:14mechanism
- 6:14of
- 6:14action
- 6:15here
- 6:15because
- 6:16sigma
- 6:161
- 6:16receptors
- 6:17actually
- 6:17sit
- 6:18on
- 6:18your
- 6:18immune
- 6:19cells.
- 6:19Well,
- 6:20that's
- 6:21really
- 6:21cool
- 6:22actually,
- 6:23because
- 6:24by
- 6:24agonizing
- 6:25the
- 6:25sigma
- 6:261
- 6:26receptor,
- 6:27you
- 6:27put
- 6:27a
- 6:28kind
- 6:28of
- 6:28a
- 6:28hard
- 6:28break
- 6:29on
- 6:29the
- 6:29inflammatory
- 6:30cascade
- 6:30before
- 6:30it
- 6:30starts.
- 6:31And
- 6:31we
- 6:31know
- 6:32that
- 6:32neuroinflammation
- 6:33is
- 6:33such
- 6:34a
- 6:34problem
- 6:34in
- 6:34a
- 6:35certain
- 6:35phenotype
- 6:36of
- 6:36depressed
- 6:36people,
- 6:37right?
- 6:37Not
- 6:37all
- 6:38depression
- 6:38is
- 6:38created
- 6:39equally.
- 6:39There's
- 6:39many
- 6:39different
- 6:40kinds
- 6:40and
- 6:40flavors
- 6:41of
- 6:41depression.
- 6:41And,
- 6:42and
- 6:42there's
- 6:42a
- 6:42particular
- 6:42subtype
- 6:43of
- 6:43depressed
- 6:44patients
- 6:44who
- 6:45are
- 6:45known
- 6:45to
- 6:46have
- 6:46more
- 6:46inflammatory
- 6:48conditions
- 6:49that
- 6:49actually
- 6:49destroy
- 6:50their
- 6:50neurotransmitters,
- 6:51that
- 6:51prevent
- 6:51neurotransmitter
- 6:52synthesis,
- 6:53they
- 6:53degrade
- 6:53existing
- 6:54neurotransmitters
- 6:55and
- 6:55particularly
- 6:56dopamine,
- 6:57which
- 6:57can
- 6:57cause
- 6:58anhedonia
- 6:58in
- 6:58the
- 6:59prefrontal
- 6:59cortex.
- 6:59It
- 7:00can
- 7:00lead
- 7:00to
- 7:00brain
- 7:00fog.
- 7:01We
- 7:01know
- 7:01COVID
- 7:0219
- 7:02had
- 7:02some
- 7:03evidence
- 7:03that
- 7:03suggested
- 7:04it
- 7:04was
- 7:04a
- 7:04very
- 7:04inflammatory
- 7:05condition
- 7:05that
- 7:06made
- 7:06it
- 7:06difficult
- 7:07to
- 7:07think
- 7:08long.
- 7:08Covid
- 7:08folks
- 7:09have
- 7:09very
- 7:09low
- 7:09energy.
- 7:10They're
- 7:10a
- 7:10lot
- 7:10less
- 7:11likely
- 7:11to
- 7:11enjoy
- 7:12certain
- 7:13hobbies
- 7:13they
- 7:13used
- 7:14to
- 7:14enjoy.
- 7:14They
- 7:14just
- 7:14don't
- 7:15have
- 7:15the
- 7:15physical
- 7:15energy
- 7:16or
- 7:16cognitive
- 7:17reserve
- 7:17that
- 7:17they
- 7:17used
- 7:18to
- 7:18have.
- 7:18So
- 7:18if
- 7:18you
- 7:19have
- 7:19a
- 7:19patient
- 7:19who
- 7:19has
- 7:20an
- 7:20inflammatory
- 7:21type
- 7:21of
- 7:21depression,
- 7:22maybe
- 7:22an
- 7:22elevated
- 7:23CRP
- 7:24or
- 7:24IL6,
- 7:25then
- 7:26there
- 7:26is
- 7:26some
- 7:27evidence
- 7:27to
- 7:27support
- 7:28that
- 7:28Sigma
- 7:291
- 7:29receptor
- 7:29agonism
- 7:30via
- 7:31Luvox
- 7:31is
- 7:32a
- 7:32little
- 7:32bit
- 7:32better
- 7:33suited
- 7:33for
- 7:33that
- 7:34patient.
- 7:35And
- 7:35there's
- 7:36even
- 7:36evidence
- 7:36to
- 7:37suggest
- 7:37that
- 7:37Luvox,
- 7:38through
- 7:38its
- 7:39SIRT
- 7:39inhibition,
- 7:40and
- 7:40remember,
- 7:41it
- 7:41does,
- 7:41it
- 7:41is
- 7:41still
- 7:41an
- 7:42ssri.
- 7:42So
- 7:42it
- 7:42is
- 7:42still
- 7:43inhibiting
- 7:43the
- 7:44reuptake
- 7:45of
- 7:45serotonin,
- 7:45just
- 7:46like
- 7:46Lexapro,
- 7:46just
- 7:47like
- 7:47Prozac,
- 7:47just
- 7:47like
- 7:48Zoloft.
- 7:48But
- 7:49it
- 7:49also
- 7:49has
- 7:49that
- 7:49sigma
- 7:501
- 7:50receptor
- 7:51activation
- 7:51and
- 7:52the
- 7:52combination
- 7:52of
- 7:52those
- 7:53actually
- 7:53enhances
- 7:54prefrontal
- 7:55dopaminergic
- 7:56neurotransmission.
- 7:57That
- 7:57is
- 7:58pretty
- 7:58cool.
- 7:58We
- 7:58don't
- 7:58see
- 7:59that
- 7:59a
- 7:59lot
- 7:59with
- 7:59other
- 7:59SSRIs.
- 8:01That
- 8:01is
- 8:01certainly
- 8:02an
- 8:02edge.
- 8:02And
- 8:02again,
- 8:02it's
- 8:03the
- 8:03cognitive
- 8:03enhancement
- 8:04there
- 8:05that
- 8:05can
- 8:05really
- 8:05help.
- 8:05So
- 8:06now
- 8:06you
- 8:06have
- 8:06neuroprotection,
- 8:07neuroplasticity,
- 8:08cognitive
- 8:08enhancement.
- 8:09It's
- 8:09good
- 8:09in
- 8:10inflammatory
- 8:10subtype
- 8:11of
- 8:11depression.
- 8:12So
- 8:12when
- 8:12SSRIs
- 8:13aren't
- 8:13really
- 8:13working
- 8:14for
- 8:14particular
- 8:14patients
- 8:15and
- 8:15you've
- 8:15already
- 8:15ruled
- 8:16out
- 8:16the
- 8:16fact
- 8:16that
- 8:16they're
- 8:17being
- 8:17non
- 8:17adherent
- 8:18and
- 8:18you're
- 8:18like,
- 8:19wait
- 8:19a
- 8:19minute,
- 8:19this
- 8:19patient's
- 8:19not
- 8:20bipolar,
- 8:20they're
- 8:20not
- 8:20borderline.
- 8:21I
- 8:21don't
- 8:22see
- 8:22B12
- 8:22folate
- 8:23deficiencies,
- 8:23I
- 8:23don't
- 8:23see
- 8:23vitamin
- 8:24D
- 8:24deficiencies.
- 8:25What
- 8:25else
- 8:25is
- 8:25going
- 8:25on
- 8:25here?
- 8:26Like
- 8:26how
- 8:27come
- 8:27they're
- 8:27not
- 8:27responding?
- 8:28Well,
- 8:28maybe
- 8:28they
- 8:28have
- 8:29the
- 8:29inflammatory
- 8:30subtype
- 8:30of
- 8:30depression.
- 8:31Don't
- 8:32quote
- 8:32me,
- 8:32but
- 8:32I
- 8:32think
- 8:32past
- 8:33evidence
- 8:33suggests
- 8:34it's
- 8:34anywhere
- 8:34up
- 8:35to
- 8:3533%
- 8:35or
- 8:36so
- 8:36of
- 8:36patients
- 8:37I
- 8:37think
- 8:37is
- 8:37what
- 8:38I
- 8:38read
- 8:38in
- 8:38the
- 8:38past,
- 8:39have
- 8:39that
- 8:39inflammatory
- 8:40subtype
- 8:41potentially
- 8:41contributing
- 8:42to
- 8:42their
- 8:42depression.
- 8:42You
- 8:43may
- 8:43need
- 8:43to
- 8:43reach
- 8:43for
- 8:43Luvox
- 8:44because
- 8:44it's
- 8:45a
- 8:45different
- 8:45mechanism
- 8:46of
- 8:46action.
- 8:46You
- 8:47can
- 8:47actually
- 8:47put
- 8:47brakes
- 8:48on
- 8:48that
- 8:48inflammatory
- 8:49cascade,
- 8:49enhance
- 8:50prefrontal
- 8:51dopamine
- 8:52and
- 8:52cognitively
- 8:53the
- 8:53patient
- 8:53will
- 8:53be
- 8:53more
- 8:54flexible.
- 8:55And
- 8:56that
- 8:56of
- 8:56course
- 8:56changes
- 8:57the
- 8:57game
- 8:57of
- 8:57really
- 8:57any
- 8:58mental
- 8:58illness.
- 8:58I
- 8:58would
- 8:59argue
- 8:59every
- 8:59mental
- 8:59illness
- 9:00on
- 9:00some
- 9:00level
- 9:01has
- 9:01to
- 9:02deal
- 9:02with
- 9:02inflexibility
- 9:03in
- 9:03the
- 9:03way
- 9:03we
- 9:03think,
- 9:04most
- 9:04notably
- 9:05in
- 9:05ocd.
- 9:05Right.
- 9:06It's
- 9:06very
- 9:06rigid,
- 9:07it's
- 9:07very
- 9:07entrenched.
- 9:08The
- 9:08ways
- 9:08we
- 9:08think,
- 9:09we
- 9:09feel
- 9:09compelled
- 9:10to
- 9:10neutralize
- 9:11obsessive
- 9:11thoughts.
- 9:12Right.
- 9:12This
- 9:12is
- 9:12a
- 9:12defined
- 9:13circuit,
- 9:14very
- 9:14well
- 9:14known
- 9:14in
- 9:14the
- 9:15literature
- 9:15called
- 9:16the
- 9:16CSTC
- 9:17circuit,
- 9:17the
- 9:18corticostriatothalamocortical
- 9:20pathway.
- 9:20It's
- 9:21quite
- 9:21literally
- 9:21a
- 9:21brain
- 9:22circuit
- 9:22where
- 9:23our
- 9:23thoughts
- 9:23get
- 9:24kind
- 9:24of
- 9:24stuck.
- 9:24We
- 9:24feel
- 9:25compelled
- 9:25to
- 9:25continue
- 9:26to
- 9:26engage
- 9:26in
- 9:26those
- 9:27thoughts
- 9:27and
- 9:27we
- 9:27don't
- 9:28really
- 9:28have
- 9:28a
- 9:28break
- 9:29to
- 9:29stop
- 9:29the
- 9:29thought.
- 9:30But
- 9:30lo
- 9:31and
- 9:31behold,
- 9:31through
- 9:31your
- 9:32prefrontal
- 9:32dopamine
- 9:33enhancement
- 9:33with
- 9:34sigma
- 9:341
- 9:34receptor
- 9:35agonism,
- 9:35bam,
- 9:36you
- 9:36have
- 9:36that
- 9:36dopamine
- 9:37in
- 9:37the
- 9:37prefrontal
- 9:37cortex,
- 9:38that
- 9:38top
- 9:38down
- 9:39CEO
- 9:40that
- 9:40can
- 9:40inhibit
- 9:40those
- 9:41obsessive
- 9:41thoughts
- 9:42more
- 9:42readily.
- 9:42And
- 9:43so
- 9:43why
- 9:43is
- 9:43this?
- 9:44One
- 9:44of
- 9:44the
- 9:44reasons
- 9:44this
- 9:45is
- 9:45FDA
- 9:45approved
- 9:45for
- 9:46ocd
- 9:47might
- 9:47have
- 9:47to
- 9:47do
- 9:47with
- 9:47the
- 9:48prefrontal
- 9:48dopamine
- 9:49enhancement.
- 9:49Right.
- 9:50That's
- 9:50extremely
- 9:51important
- 9:52because
- 9:52again,
- 9:52that's
- 9:52a
- 9:53very
- 9:53entrenched
- 9:53pathway.
- 9:54And
- 9:55so
- 9:55if
- 9:55you
- 9:55can
- 9:56try
- 9:56and
- 9:56modulate
- 9:57obsessional
- 9:58thoughts
- 9:58and
- 9:58compulsions
- 9:59in
- 9:59Any
- 9:59way
- 9:59you
- 9:59can
- 10:00beyond
- 10:00just
- 10:01serotonin
- 10:01reuptake
- 10:02inhibition,
- 10:03then
- 10:03if
- 10:04Sigma
- 10:041
- 10:04is
- 10:05a
- 10:05great
- 10:05way
- 10:05to
- 10:05do
- 10:05that,
- 10:06which
- 10:06leads
- 10:06to
- 10:07again,
- 10:07more
- 10:07prefrontal
- 10:08dopamine,
- 10:09very
- 10:09important,
- 10:10even
- 10:10bigger
- 10:11bonus
- 10:11that
- 10:11you
- 10:12can
- 10:12stop
- 10:12the
- 10:12inflammatory
- 10:13cascade
- 10:13that
- 10:14might
- 10:14be
- 10:14detrimental
- 10:14to
- 10:15neurotransmitters
- 10:15and
- 10:15make
- 10:16it
- 10:16even
- 10:16harder
- 10:17to
- 10:17promote
- 10:18dopamine
- 10:18synthesis
- 10:19and
- 10:19thereby
- 10:20exhibit
- 10:21top
- 10:21down
- 10:21control
- 10:22of
- 10:22those
- 10:22circuits.
- 10:23So
- 10:23very
- 10:24neat
- 10:24thing
- 10:24that
- 10:24Luvox
- 10:25is
- 10:26actually
- 10:26doing
- 10:26here
- 10:27and
- 10:27I
- 10:27think
- 10:27it's
- 10:28a
- 10:28pretty
- 10:28useful
- 10:29weapon
- 10:30in
- 10:30O
- 10:30C
- 10:30D.
- 10:31Again,
- 10:32you
- 10:32can
- 10:32imagine
- 10:32how
- 10:32it's
- 10:33effective
- 10:33in
- 10:33social
- 10:33anxiety
- 10:34disorder
- 10:35to
- 10:35kind
- 10:35of
- 10:35stop
- 10:36that
- 10:36anxiety
- 10:37response
- 10:37with
- 10:37just
- 10:38more
- 10:38top
- 10:38down
- 10:39inhibition,
- 10:40the
- 10:40block
- 10:41of
- 10:41the
- 10:41reuptake
- 10:42of
- 10:42serotonin.
- 10:42Of
- 10:43course,
- 10:43we've
- 10:43talked
- 10:43about
- 10:43in
- 10:44our
- 10:44recent
- 10:44episode
- 10:45how
- 10:45serotonin
- 10:46is
- 10:46less
- 10:46of
- 10:47a
- 10:47happy
- 10:47neurotransmitter
- 10:49in
- 10:49and
- 10:49of
- 10:49itself
- 10:50and
- 10:50instead
- 10:50it
- 10:50sort
- 10:51of
- 10:51attenuates
- 10:51or
- 10:52lessens
- 10:52the
- 10:52emotional
- 10:53reactivity
- 10:54to
- 10:54a
- 10:54situation.
- 10:55So
- 10:55you
- 10:55can
- 10:55imagine
- 10:56how
- 10:56that's
- 10:56very
- 10:56helpful
- 10:57in
- 10:57social
- 10:57anxiety
- 10:58disorder
- 10:58where
- 10:58maybe
- 10:59we
- 10:59have
- 10:59obsessional
- 11:00thoughts
- 11:00about
- 11:00how
- 11:01we're
- 11:01being
- 11:01perceived.
- 11:02And
- 11:03well,
- 11:03lo
- 11:03and
- 11:03behold,
- 11:03now
- 11:04we
- 11:04have
- 11:04more
- 11:04top
- 11:04down
- 11:05control
- 11:05with
- 11:05dopamine
- 11:06in
- 11:06the
- 11:06prefrontal
- 11:06cortex
- 11:07via
- 11:07sigma
- 11:08agonism.
- 11:09And
- 11:09then
- 11:09boom.
- 11:09We
- 11:10also
- 11:10have
- 11:11serotonin
- 11:11reuptake
- 11:12inhibition
- 11:12where
- 11:12there's
- 11:12more
- 11:13serotonin
- 11:13in
- 11:13the
- 11:13synapse
- 11:14that's
- 11:14telling
- 11:14us,
- 11:14hey,
- 11:15everything's
- 11:15gonna
- 11:15be
- 11:15okay,
- 11:16kind
- 11:16of
- 11:16attenuating
- 11:17or
- 11:18modifying
- 11:19our
- 11:19extreme
- 11:20reactions
- 11:21to,
- 11:21to
- 11:22our
- 11:22sources
- 11:22of
- 11:22anxiety
- 11:23and
- 11:23things
- 11:23like
- 11:24that.
- 11:24So
- 11:24that's
- 11:25pretty
- 11:25darn
- 11:26cool.
- 11:26Also,
- 11:27Luvox
- 11:28is
- 11:28known.
- 11:28Some
- 11:29of
- 11:29the
- 11:29evidence
- 11:29shows
- 11:30that
- 11:30it's
- 11:30not
- 11:30as
- 11:30likely
- 11:31to
- 11:31cause
- 11:31weight
- 11:31gain
- 11:32or
- 11:32sexual
- 11:32side
- 11:32effects.
- 11:33So
- 11:33that
- 11:33can
- 11:34be
- 11:34a
- 11:34pretty
- 11:34neat
- 11:35added
- 11:35benefit
- 11:35to
- 11:36prescribe
- 11:36Luvox.
- 11:38Another
- 11:38really
- 11:38neat
- 11:39thing
- 11:39that
- 11:39can
- 11:40be
- 11:40a
- 11:40problem,
- 11:40don't
- 11:41get
- 11:41me
- 11:41wrong,
- 11:41but
- 11:41it
- 11:41also
- 11:41can
- 11:42be
- 11:42used
- 11:42to
- 11:42your
- 11:42advantage.
- 11:43Is
- 11:43there's
- 11:44evidence
- 11:44that
- 11:44Luvox
- 11:45potently
- 11:46inhibits
- 11:47the
- 11:47hepatic
- 11:47metabolism
- 11:48of
- 11:48melatonin,
- 11:49okay.
- 11:49Via
- 11:49the
- 11:49CYP1A2
- 11:51blockade.
- 11:51Now
- 11:51my
- 11:52friends,
- 11:53you
- 11:53probably
- 11:54already
- 11:54know
- 11:54this.
- 11:54It's
- 11:55worth
- 11:55reinforcing
- 11:56though
- 11:56that
- 11:56not
- 11:57all
- 11:57CYP
- 11:59interactions
- 11:59are
- 12:00negative.
- 12:00We
- 12:00can
- 12:00actually
- 12:01leverage
- 12:01those
- 12:02to
- 12:03be
- 12:03quite
- 12:03beneficial.
- 12:04As
- 12:04a
- 12:04matter
- 12:05of
- 12:05fact,
- 12:05there
- 12:05are
- 12:06some
- 12:06folks
- 12:06who
- 12:06intentionally
- 12:07use
- 12:08CYP
- 12:08inhibition
- 12:09with
- 12:09Clozapine
- 12:10and
- 12:10Luvox
- 12:11to,
- 12:12to
- 12:12achieve
- 12:13therapeutic
- 12:14goals
- 12:14with
- 12:14Clozapine
- 12:15at
- 12:16lower
- 12:16doses
- 12:17because
- 12:17they
- 12:18know
- 12:18that
- 12:18the
- 12:19Luvox
- 12:19is
- 12:19inhibiting
- 12:20it.
- 12:20So
- 12:21lower
- 12:21doses
- 12:21are
- 12:22required
- 12:22to
- 12:22achieve
- 12:23the
- 12:23therapeutic
- 12:24effects,
- 12:25but
- 12:25via
- 12:25that
- 12:25inhibition
- 12:26without
- 12:26the
- 12:26extra
- 12:27side
- 12:27effects.
- 12:27So
- 12:28when
- 12:28you
- 12:28use
- 12:29this
- 12:29Intentionally
- 12:30and
- 12:30purposefully.
- 12:31CYP
- 12:31interactions
- 12:32can
- 12:32actually
- 12:32benefit
- 12:33you,
- 12:33but
- 12:33of
- 12:33course,
- 12:34they
- 12:34can
- 12:34also
- 12:34cause
- 12:34headaches,
- 12:35unforeseen
- 12:36challenges.
- 12:37The
- 12:37biggest
- 12:38being
- 12:38that,
- 12:38you
- 12:38know,
- 12:38you
- 12:38start
- 12:39someone
- 12:39on
- 12:39an
- 12:39inhibitor,
- 12:40you
- 12:40know,
- 12:41you
- 12:41see
- 12:41them
- 12:41regularly,
- 12:41but
- 12:42maybe
- 12:42they
- 12:42don't
- 12:42tell
- 12:42you
- 12:43about
- 12:43their,
- 12:43their
- 12:44PCP
- 12:44appointment
- 12:45they
- 12:45had
- 12:45in
- 12:45between
- 12:46sessions,
- 12:46or
- 12:47they
- 12:47don't
- 12:47tell
- 12:47their
- 12:47primary
- 12:48care
- 12:48doc
- 12:48that
- 12:48they're
- 12:48on
- 12:48luvox.
- 12:49Maybe
- 12:50the
- 12:50EHRs
- 12:50aren't
- 12:51integrating
- 12:51together,
- 12:51they're
- 12:52two
- 12:52separate
- 12:52systems.
- 12:53Right?
- 12:53So
- 12:54you
- 12:54can
- 12:54see
- 12:54how
- 12:54this
- 12:55can
- 12:55get
- 12:55really
- 12:55fuzzy
- 12:56really
- 12:56quickly.
- 12:56Maybe
- 12:57they're
- 12:57paying
- 12:57you
- 12:57cash,
- 12:58pay,
- 12:58and
- 12:59your
- 12:59documentation
- 13:00is
- 13:00not
- 13:00even
- 13:00visible
- 13:01by
- 13:01their
- 13:01primary
- 13:02care
- 13:02doc.
- 13:02And
- 13:03oh
- 13:03my
- 13:03God,
- 13:03now
- 13:04they
- 13:04have
- 13:04this
- 13:04major
- 13:04inhibitor
- 13:05on
- 13:05board.
- 13:05The
- 13:05patient
- 13:06doesn't
- 13:06really
- 13:06think
- 13:06about
- 13:07CYP
- 13:08inhibition
- 13:08all
- 13:08day.
- 13:09And
- 13:10you
- 13:10haven't
- 13:10called
- 13:11that
- 13:11provider.
- 13:11Maybe
- 13:12you
- 13:12didn't
- 13:12even
- 13:12know
- 13:12they
- 13:12had
- 13:12a
- 13:13new
- 13:13provider.
- 13:13Maybe
- 13:13when
- 13:14you
- 13:14did
- 13:14your
- 13:14intake,
- 13:15they
- 13:15didn't
- 13:15have
- 13:15a
- 13:15provider.
- 13:16Now
- 13:16they
- 13:16do.
- 13:17And
- 13:17so
- 13:18this
- 13:18is
- 13:18all
- 13:18getting
- 13:18lost
- 13:19in
- 13:19the
- 13:19sauce
- 13:19that
- 13:19there's
- 13:20this
- 13:20potent
- 13:20inhibitor.
- 13:21And
- 13:21maybe
- 13:22the
- 13:22PCP
- 13:23didn't,
- 13:23didn't
- 13:23ask
- 13:24about
- 13:24psychiatric
- 13:24medications
- 13:25or
- 13:25didn't
- 13:25quite
- 13:26catch
- 13:26it,
- 13:26or
- 13:26maybe
- 13:27the
- 13:27patient
- 13:27assumed
- 13:27this
- 13:28PCP
- 13:29had
- 13:30record
- 13:30of
- 13:30that
- 13:30already,
- 13:31and
- 13:31they
- 13:31don't.
- 13:31And
- 13:32lo
- 13:32and
- 13:32behold,
- 13:32you
- 13:33have
- 13:33this
- 13:33big
- 13:33problem.
- 13:34But
- 13:34with
- 13:34melatonin,
- 13:35this
- 13:36is
- 13:36a
- 13:36bit
- 13:36of
- 13:36leverage,
- 13:36because
- 13:37if
- 13:37you
- 13:38have
- 13:38Luvox
- 13:38on
- 13:39board
- 13:39and
- 13:39the
- 13:39patient's
- 13:39taking
- 13:40Melatonin,
- 13:41some
- 13:41evidence
- 13:41suggests
- 13:42a
- 13:42three
- 13:42fold
- 13:43higher
- 13:44nocturnal
- 13:44melatonin
- 13:45peak
- 13:45after
- 13:45a
- 13:46single
- 13:46dose.
- 13:46And
- 13:47that's
- 13:47not
- 13:47the
- 13:47case
- 13:47with,
- 13:48you
- 13:48know,
- 13:48Celexa
- 13:49or
- 13:49paxil
- 13:49or
- 13:49other
- 13:50SSRIs.
- 13:51So
- 13:52that's
- 13:52a
- 13:52way
- 13:52that
- 13:53you
- 13:53could
- 13:54actually
- 13:54leverage
- 13:55Melatonin
- 13:56to
- 13:56realign
- 13:56your
- 13:57patient's
- 13:57circadian
- 13:57rhythm.
- 13:58That
- 13:58can
- 13:58also
- 13:58backfire,
- 13:59though,
- 13:59if
- 14:00the
- 14:00peak
- 14:00levels
- 14:01are
- 14:01way
- 14:02too
- 14:02high
- 14:03and
- 14:03the
- 14:03overall,
- 14:04you
- 14:04know,
- 14:04what
- 14:04we
- 14:05call
- 14:05area
- 14:06under
- 14:06the
- 14:07curve.
- 14:07In
- 14:08other
- 14:08words,
- 14:08just
- 14:09how
- 14:10much
- 14:10medication
- 14:12is,
- 14:12is
- 14:12being
- 14:13therapeutically
- 14:15exerted
- 14:15at,
- 14:16at
- 14:17any
- 14:17given
- 14:17time
- 14:17during
- 14:17the
- 14:18entire
- 14:18administration.
- 14:19Right?
- 14:19So
- 14:19the
- 14:19area
- 14:20under
- 14:20the
- 14:21curve
- 14:21is
- 14:21also
- 14:22going
- 14:22to
- 14:22increase
- 14:23because
- 14:23that
- 14:23could
- 14:23mean
- 14:24daytime
- 14:24sedation
- 14:25if
- 14:25you
- 14:25inhibited
- 14:26melatonin
- 14:27and
- 14:27it
- 14:27went
- 14:27overboard.
- 14:28Of
- 14:28course
- 14:28that
- 14:28can
- 14:29be
- 14:29different.
- 14:29And
- 14:29remember,
- 14:29it's
- 14:30different
- 14:30in
- 14:30every
- 14:30patient.
- 14:31It's
- 14:31not
- 14:31like
- 14:31every
- 14:32patient's
- 14:32going
- 14:32to
- 14:32have
- 14:32a
- 14:32threefold
- 14:33higher
- 14:33melatonin
- 14:34peak.
- 14:35Right?
- 14:35That
- 14:35could
- 14:36be
- 14:36six
- 14:36fold
- 14:36for
- 14:36someone
- 14:37else,
- 14:37it
- 14:37could
- 14:37be
- 14:37twofold
- 14:38for
- 14:38another
- 14:38person.
- 14:39It
- 14:39all
- 14:39kind
- 14:39of
- 14:39depends
- 14:40on
- 14:40how
- 14:40we
- 14:40metabolize
- 14:41our
- 14:41medications.
- 14:42But
- 14:42that
- 14:42is
- 14:42something
- 14:43you
- 14:43could
- 14:43potentially
- 14:43use
- 14:44to
- 14:44your
- 14:44advantage.
- 14:45I
- 14:45know,
- 14:45I'm
- 14:45a
- 14:46sucker.
- 14:46And
- 14:47I
- 14:47have
- 14:47a
- 14:47soft
- 14:48spot
- 14:48for
- 14:48any
- 14:49antidepressant
- 14:50that
- 14:50helps
- 14:50you
- 14:50sleep.
- 14:51I'm
- 14:51a
- 14:51big
- 14:51believer
- 14:52in
- 14:52that.
- 14:52And
- 14:53my
- 14:53hesitancy
- 14:54with
- 14:54prescribing
- 14:54Luvox
- 14:55is
- 14:55because
- 14:55of
- 14:55the
- 14:56drug
- 14:56interactions.
- 14:57I
- 14:57think
- 14:57if
- 14:57you
- 14:57have
- 14:58a
- 14:58patient
- 14:58that
- 14:59can't
- 14:59sleep
- 15:00and
- 15:00really
- 15:00needs
- 15:01to
- 15:01sleep
- 15:02and
- 15:03they,
- 15:04and
- 15:04you're,
- 15:04you
- 15:04know,
- 15:05I
- 15:06maybe
- 15:06obsessional
- 15:07thought
- 15:07circuits
- 15:08too.
- 15:08You
- 15:08think
- 15:09they
- 15:09have
- 15:09OCD
- 15:09or
- 15:10they
- 15:10might
- 15:10have
- 15:10obsessional
- 15:10thought
- 15:11processes.
- 15:11Maybe
- 15:12you
- 15:12didn't
- 15:12declaratively
- 15:13diagnose
- 15:14ocd,
- 15:14but
- 15:14you
- 15:15highly
- 15:15suspect
- 15:15it,
- 15:16which
- 15:16is
- 15:16so
- 15:16often
- 15:17the
- 15:17case.
- 15:17Right.
- 15:17We
- 15:17don't
- 15:18just
- 15:18come
- 15:18in
- 15:18and
- 15:19cleanly
- 15:19diagnose
- 15:20everyone
- 15:20on
- 15:20day
- 15:20one.
- 15:21This
- 15:21could
- 15:21be
- 15:22a
- 15:22good
- 15:22hedge.
- 15:22Cause
- 15:23it's
- 15:23like,
- 15:23okay,
- 15:23I'm
- 15:23gonna
- 15:23get
- 15:23my
- 15:24patient
- 15:24to
- 15:24fall
- 15:24asleep.
- 15:25I'm
- 15:25going
- 15:25to
- 15:26potentially
- 15:27inhibit
- 15:27some
- 15:28of
- 15:28those
- 15:28obsessional
- 15:28thought
- 15:29patterns
- 15:29and
- 15:29break
- 15:30the.
- 15:30Break
- 15:31those
- 15:31obsessional
- 15:31compulsion,
- 15:32compulsive
- 15:33thought
- 15:33cycles
- 15:34in,
- 15:35in
- 15:35the
- 15:35CTSC
- 15:37circuit.
- 15:37I
- 15:38think
- 15:38sleep
- 15:38is
- 15:38just
- 15:38so
- 15:39transdiagnostic,
- 15:39it
- 15:40can
- 15:40independently
- 15:41improve
- 15:41depressive
- 15:42symptoms
- 15:43regardless.
- 15:44And
- 15:44so
- 15:45that
- 15:45alone
- 15:45is,
- 15:45is
- 15:46a
- 15:46very
- 15:46appealing
- 15:47piece
- 15:47of
- 15:47Remeron.
- 15:48And
- 15:48also
- 15:48why
- 15:48I
- 15:49love
- 15:49Luvox,
- 15:49because
- 15:50most
- 15:50of
- 15:50the
- 15:50other
- 15:51antidepressants
- 15:51I
- 15:51prescribe,
- 15:52Prozac,
- 15:52Zoloft,
- 15:53Lexapro,
- 15:53they
- 15:54don't
- 15:54make
- 15:54people
- 15:54sleepy.
- 15:55In
- 15:55fact,
- 15:55they
- 15:55can
- 15:55make
- 15:55them
- 15:56more
- 15:56wired,
- 15:56can
- 15:57make
- 15:57it
- 15:57harder
- 15:57to
- 15:57sleep
- 15:58at
- 15:58times.
- 15:59So
- 15:59that,
- 16:00to
- 16:00me
- 16:00is
- 16:00one
- 16:00of
- 16:00my
- 16:01biggest
- 16:01things
- 16:01I
- 16:02wish
- 16:02I
- 16:02could
- 16:02change
- 16:02if
- 16:02I
- 16:03had
- 16:03a
- 16:03magic
- 16:03wand,
- 16:03is
- 16:03if
- 16:04antidepressants
- 16:05could
- 16:05reliably
- 16:06make
- 16:06people
- 16:06sleep
- 16:07and
- 16:07improve
- 16:07sleep
- 16:08architecture.
- 16:09Of
- 16:09course,
- 16:10that's
- 16:10not
- 16:10always
- 16:11realistic,
- 16:12but
- 16:12hey,
- 16:13it's
- 16:13something
- 16:13I,
- 16:13I
- 16:14wish
- 16:14for.
- 16:14So
- 16:15I
- 16:15hope
- 16:15you
- 16:15have
- 16:15a
- 16:15better
- 16:16idea
- 16:16of
- 16:16what
- 16:17Luvox
- 16:17can
- 16:18offer,
- 16:18what
- 16:18it
- 16:18does.
- 16:19I
- 16:19think
- 16:19your
- 16:19ideal
- 16:21patient
- 16:21with,
- 16:22you
- 16:22know,
- 16:22who
- 16:22you
- 16:22may
- 16:23prescribe
- 16:23Luvox
- 16:24for
- 16:24is
- 16:25probably
- 16:25someone
- 16:25with
- 16:25OCD
- 16:26or
- 16:26social
- 16:27anxiety,
- 16:27maybe
- 16:28depression
- 16:28with
- 16:29a
- 16:29lot
- 16:29of
- 16:29cognitive
- 16:30complaints
- 16:30and
- 16:30comorbid
- 16:31insomnia.
- 16:32And
- 16:32the
- 16:32most
- 16:33important
- 16:33thing,
- 16:33of
- 16:33course,
- 16:34is
- 16:34that
- 16:34they're
- 16:35not
- 16:35on
- 16:35medications
- 16:36that
- 16:36are
- 16:36metabolized
- 16:37by,
- 16:37you
- 16:37know,
- 16:381A2
- 16:38or
- 16:39C,
- 16:39C1
- 16:409
- 16:40or
- 16:403A4.
- 16:41Right.
- 16:42Those
- 16:42are
- 16:42the
- 16:43inhib.
- 16:43You
- 16:43know,
- 16:43Luvox
- 16:44can
- 16:44inhibit
- 16:45those.
- 16:46And
- 16:46so
- 16:46those
- 16:46medications
- 16:47and
- 16:47raise
- 16:47their
- 16:48levels
- 16:48to
- 16:49toxic
- 16:50levels
- 16:50or
- 16:51increase
- 16:51major
- 16:51side
- 16:52effects.
- 16:52That's
- 16:53a
- 16:53big
- 16:53problem,
- 16:54right?
- 16:54It
- 16:54is
- 16:55a
- 16:55new
- 16:55arrow
- 16:55in
- 16:56your
- 16:56quiver,
- 16:56and
- 16:56I
- 16:56think
- 16:56you
- 16:57should
- 16:57consider
- 16:57it
- 16:57for
- 16:58sure
- 16:58when
- 16:59it
- 16:59makes
- 16:59sense.
- 17:00Watch
- 17:01out
- 17:01for
- 17:01inflammation
- 17:02and
- 17:02how
- 17:03this
- 17:03can
- 17:03potentially
- 17:04help
- 17:04with
- 17:04that.
- 17:05Embrace
- 17:05the
- 17:05neuroprotection,
- 17:06the
- 17:06neuroplasticity,
- 17:07the
- 17:07prefrontal
- 17:08dopamine
- 17:08enhancement,
- 17:09that
- 17:09sigma
- 17:091
- 17:10receptor,
- 17:10that
- 17:10potent
- 17:11affinity
- 17:11for
- 17:11sigma
- 17:121,
- 17:12which
- 17:12separates
- 17:13this
- 17:13from
- 17:13other
- 17:14from
- 17:14other
- 17:15SSRIs.
- 17:16And
- 17:16that's
- 17:16a
- 17:16really
- 17:17big
- 17:17deal
- 17:17when
- 17:17you're
- 17:17battling
- 17:18OCD,
- 17:18because
- 17:19as
- 17:19we
- 17:19know,
- 17:19it's
- 17:20not
- 17:20that
- 17:20simple
- 17:21with
- 17:21OCD,
- 17:21right?
- 17:22It's
- 17:22not
- 17:22as
- 17:22simple
- 17:22that
- 17:22this
- 17:23is
- 17:23a
- 17:23serotonergic
- 17:24deficiency.
- 17:25This
- 17:25is
- 17:25a
- 17:25much
- 17:26more
- 17:26ingrained
- 17:27neurobiological
- 17:28thought
- 17:29loop
- 17:29that
- 17:30has
- 17:30a
- 17:30distinct
- 17:30pattern
- 17:31and
- 17:31neurobiological
- 17:32signature
- 17:33in
- 17:33the
- 17:33brain.
- 17:33Again,
- 17:33the
- 17:34ctsc,
- 17:34the
- 17:35corticostriatothalamocortical
- 17:36pathway,
- 17:37it's.
- 17:38It's
- 17:38much
- 17:38more
- 17:38ingrained
- 17:39and
- 17:39it
- 17:39requires
- 17:40the
- 17:40modulation
- 17:41of
- 17:42a
- 17:42lot
- 17:42more
- 17:42than
- 17:43just
- 17:43serotonin,
- 17:44right?
- 17:44There's
- 17:44glutamate,
- 17:45there's
- 17:45dopamine.
- 17:46And
- 17:46so
- 17:46we
- 17:46can't
- 17:47attack
- 17:47that,
- 17:47usually
- 17:48through
- 17:48one
- 17:48mechanism.
- 17:49So
- 17:49I
- 17:49think.
- 17:50I
- 17:50think
- 17:50Luvox
- 17:51does
- 17:51offer
- 17:51a
- 17:51little
- 17:52bit
- 17:52more
- 17:52in
- 17:52that
- 17:52regard.
- 17:54And
- 17:54so
- 17:55just
- 17:55keep
- 17:55it
- 17:56in
- 17:56mind.
- 17:56Keep
- 17:56it
- 17:56in
- 17:56your
- 17:57back
- 17:57pocket.
- 17:57And
- 17:58now,
- 17:58my
- 17:58friends,
- 17:59I
- 17:59can't
- 17:59emphasize
- 18:00enough.
- 18:01If
- 18:01there's
- 18:01one
- 18:01thing
- 18:01you
- 18:02don't
- 18:02forget
- 18:02to
- 18:02do
- 18:03before
- 18:03you
- 18:03go
- 18:03to
- 18:03bed
- 18:04tonight,
- 18:04highly
- 18:04recommend
- 18:05you
- 18:05go
- 18:05into
- 18:05our
- 18:06Show
- 18:06Notes
- 18:06and
- 18:06become
- 18:06a
- 18:07Patreon
- 18:07member.
- 18:08I
- 18:08will
- 18:08tell
- 18:08you
- 18:09now,
- 18:09I
- 18:09am
- 18:10genuinely
- 18:10terrified
- 18:11of
- 18:11who
- 18:11I
- 18:11would
- 18:11be
- 18:11as
- 18:12a
- 18:12clinician
- 18:12if
- 18:12I
- 18:12didn't
- 18:13have
- 18:13access
- 18:13to
- 18:14this
- 18:14full
- 18:14clinical
- 18:15library.
- 18:15It
- 18:16makes
- 18:16all
- 18:16of
- 18:16these
- 18:17concepts
- 18:17sticky
- 18:18and
- 18:18fun
- 18:18and
- 18:18visually
- 18:19incredible.
- 18:20I
- 18:20would
- 18:21be
- 18:21lost
- 18:21without
- 18:21this
- 18:22today.
- 18:22And,
- 18:23you
- 18:23know,
- 18:24the
- 18:24difference
- 18:24between
- 18:25a
- 18:25good
- 18:25and
- 18:25a
- 18:26great
- 18:27clinician
- 18:27is
- 18:27are
- 18:27the
- 18:28ones
- 18:28who
- 18:28really
- 18:28understand
- 18:29the
- 18:29how
- 18:29and
- 18:29the
- 18:29why
- 18:30of
- 18:30what
- 18:30we're
- 18:30doing.
- 18:30And
- 18:31patients
- 18:31smell
- 18:31that
- 18:31a
- 18:32mile
- 18:32away.
- 18:33And
- 18:33I
- 18:33built
- 18:34this
- 18:34library
- 18:35so
- 18:35that
- 18:35you
- 18:35would
- 18:36understand
- 18:36the
- 18:36how
- 18:36and
- 18:36the
- 18:37why.
- 18:37The
- 18:37nitty
- 18:37gritty.
- 18:38Why
- 18:38are
- 18:38we
- 18:38switching?
- 18:39You
- 18:39know,
- 18:39the
- 18:39patient
- 18:40might
- 18:40wonder,
- 18:40why
- 18:40are
- 18:41we
- 18:41going
- 18:41to
- 18:41Luvox?
- 18:41What
- 18:42can
- 18:42you
- 18:42tell
- 18:42me?
- 18:42Well,
- 18:42how
- 18:42is
- 18:43that
- 18:43different
- 18:43than
- 18:43Prozac?
- 18:44They
- 18:45ask
- 18:45a
- 18:45lot
- 18:45of
- 18:45questions,
- 18:46and
- 18:47it's
- 18:47important
- 18:48that
- 18:48you're
- 18:48empowered
- 18:49to
- 18:49answer
- 18:49them.
- 18:49And
- 18:49it
- 18:50will
- 18:50transform
- 18:50your
- 18:51sense
- 18:51of
- 18:51confidence
- 18:51and
- 18:51efficacy
- 18:52in
- 18:52what
- 18:52you
- 18:52do.
- 18:53Go
- 18:53to
- 18:53the
- 18:53Show
- 18:53Notes,
- 18:54click
- 18:55the
- 18:55Show
- 18:55Notes,
- 18:56link
- 18:56to
- 18:57Patreon.
- 18:57Become
- 18:58a
- 18:58member.
- 18:58You
- 18:58will
- 18:58not
- 18:58regret
- 18:59it.
- 18:59We
- 18:59have
- 18:59rap
- 19:00songs,
- 19:00we
- 19:00have
- 19:00visual,
- 19:01really
- 19:02sticky
- 19:02visual
- 19:03mnemonics
- 19:04lectures.
- 19:04It
- 19:05is
- 19:05just
- 19:05a
- 19:06hoot
- 19:06on
- 19:07Patreon
- 19:07and
- 19:08it's
- 19:08growing
- 19:08fast.
- 19:09So
- 19:09without
- 19:09further
- 19:10ado,
- 19:10my
- 19:10friends,
- 19:10thank
- 19:10you
- 19:11for
- 19:11tuning
- 19:11in
- 19:11to
- 19:11Pearls
- 19:12and
- 19:12Prep.
- 19:12Bye
- 19:13bye.