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Phil Thornton (2nd Appearance) Full interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: My next guest is a industry friend and a personal friend.
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  Speaker 1: Uh He's a music industry executive, television producer and senior
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  Speaker 1: vice president and general manager of r C A Inspiration.
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  Speaker 1: Inspiration is the number one label and gospel music honed
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  Speaker 1: to Kirk Franklin. That's my man, Fred Hammond, that's my boy,
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  Speaker 1: the Walls Group, Landraw Johnson, and many many more. Please
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  Speaker 1: welcome the money making conversation. I call him a visionary.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome Phil Thornton Man. I'm honored Mann. You know
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  Speaker 1: I thank you for that compliment. I know I enjoyed lunch,
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  Speaker 1: and that means that once this calls down, I missed
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  Speaker 1: your smile of phase I did to you in l
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  Speaker 1: A when you're being undered in the Legends Award h
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  Speaker 1: ceremony and uh good friend about Kelly Rowland's uh brought
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  Speaker 1: you on stage and many more good people could bring.
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  Speaker 1: I was just happy I was there to to see
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  Speaker 1: you being on it for that tell us before we
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  Speaker 1: get started. Because it's all about music, it's all about
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  Speaker 1: a body of work. What it felt like to be
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  Speaker 1: be honored at that at that ceremony, it was humbling.
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  Speaker 1: It was I couldn't believe it, just to be in
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  Speaker 1: the room filled with so many people that I've known
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  Speaker 1: since my journey in this business and starting at twelve
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  Speaker 1: years old. Just to be in that room and to
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  Speaker 1: feel that love. Just it was humbling and just grateful
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  Speaker 1: and just I couldn't even believe it. I almost I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't even remember my speech right right. It was just overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 1: It was overwhelmed. Well, it was happy because of the
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  Speaker 1: fact that I know I was blessed with that honor
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  Speaker 1: and it was unexpected, and that those are the type
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  Speaker 1: of honests you you appreciate more because you know you're
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  Speaker 1: just working hard. Okay, Phil, and then somebody tapped you
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  Speaker 1: on the shows. You know something, we noticed that you
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  Speaker 1: know thise what you're doing and and it's a blessing.
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  Speaker 1: We're wanna bless you by honoring you and telling the
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  Speaker 1: world what we think about you. And we also know
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  Speaker 1: that the celebration always benefits to go to a charitable
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  Speaker 1: donation to help out people who have not been successful
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  Speaker 1: in business, all have fallen on hard time. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a dual honor. You get honored, but also we celebrate
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  Speaker 1: by honoring individual of creating income for individuals who are
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  Speaker 1: suffering or not doing well at the time. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's a double edge celebration. Absolutely absolutely, and to
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  Speaker 1: my you know, my understanding, we raised a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money that night and which is and it's a path
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  Speaker 1: the goal, which was the blessing in it all. So
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  Speaker 1: that was great to hear that. So yeah, we know,
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  Speaker 1: we do. You know, just we're going into the third quarter,
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  Speaker 1: and when we were started out the year smiling, then
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic hitt and uh, now we're into this civil arrest,
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  Speaker 1: which is understandable as an African American man. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna let people know, one out of one thousand black
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  Speaker 1: men and black boys who have stopped by the police
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  Speaker 1: are likely to be die. That's a statu that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people don't know. I read their story in
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles time. That's two point five times higher than
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  Speaker 1: white men. That happens to white men and white boys
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  Speaker 1: when they're stopped by the police one out of one thousand.
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  Speaker 1: And people wonder why we are concerned about police brutality. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: concern when police stop us as black individuals, especially black men.
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  Speaker 1: And let's let's just talk about your business from a perspective,
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  Speaker 1: starting with the pandemic when it hit, some changes you
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  Speaker 1: had to make in the whole circle of communicating people,
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  Speaker 1: your personal life, your business life. Phil you know, in
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  Speaker 1: that pan didn't make hit this is uh in March.
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  Speaker 1: We're actually on you know, past the Ada market within
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  Speaker 1: Quarantine and Social Distancing and Sony Music. So we you know,
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  Speaker 1: our meetings have been converted to all Microsoft Teams meetings,
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  Speaker 1: so we're still getting some face time, but it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a little different. Uh. You know, we were sharing all
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  Speaker 1: of our meeting agendas and you know, data and sales
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  Speaker 1: everything by way of the share feature of Microsoft Teams.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just it's been quite a transition. But we've
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  Speaker 1: still been grateful to police music videos and songs because
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  Speaker 1: some music videos we had already in the can and
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  Speaker 1: then somebody actually created over during the pandemic. But we're
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  Speaker 1: being very responsible with a very limited crew and social
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  Speaker 1: distance thing. We've still been recording songs and albums. He
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  Speaker 1: still open recording music videos, one of which is Kirk
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  Speaker 1: France's new video which just came out called Strong Guys.
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  Speaker 1: So we actually capture that over the pandem. So can
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  Speaker 1: you get that video to it so I can put
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  Speaker 1: it on my social media and my newsletter because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know the name brother, you know me, I'm in
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  Speaker 1: the marketing Google. You will have it in your inbox. Short,
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  Speaker 1: my boy, you're my boy. You're talking about Kirk a
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  Speaker 1: new song, come on man, Yeah, definitely and and and
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  Speaker 1: it's so timely reshound of what Kirk's talking about. The
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  Speaker 1: song is called strong Guy, and he's speaking about some
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  Speaker 1: of the social injustices, you know, in our country and
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  Speaker 1: just everything happening and he addressed depends there and it's
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  Speaker 1: a really profound, such a powerful song, um and powerful video.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely well. This month is Black Music month. Um I uh.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to Diana Williams. I called her the mother
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  Speaker 1: of Black History, of the brand ambassador of Black History.
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  Speaker 1: She's uh, she's incredible. I always tell her, I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we won't see like like what you. I
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  Speaker 1: don't see her enough. And this is gonna change in
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  Speaker 1: the third and four quarter this year because we want
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  Speaker 1: the mission to change the game. And she was telling
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  Speaker 1: me about the the Hall of Fame at the museum
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  Speaker 1: that's opening in Nashville in the Labor Day weekend, know
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  Speaker 1: that month of labor, the month of September. But let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about black history, mark the importance of it, the
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  Speaker 1: importance of black music period well as if it was
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  Speaker 1: as a black man and as an executive at a
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  Speaker 1: major record company. I telela, I celebrate black music. That's
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  Speaker 1: just my position. But we're gonna put extra emphasis on
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  Speaker 1: black music. You know about that black music. But when
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  Speaker 1: you think about black music and black musicians, it is
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  Speaker 1: they are the basis of all genres of music. Thing
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  Speaker 1: about R and B blue hip hop, blue, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about R and B blom chazz, gospel, like so many
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  Speaker 1: genres of music were derived from just those initial genres
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  Speaker 1: of music. Those are rock and roll country like, those
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  Speaker 1: are created by black individuals. And so this is a
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  Speaker 1: month where we, you know, just salute and honor them.
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  Speaker 1: I did it an ed piece of Billboards last year
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  Speaker 1: about the importance of black music, and they continue are
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  Speaker 1: important not only about black music for black executives. And
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  Speaker 1: that's another thing in the other areas, because we also
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  Speaker 1: need people in the board rooms and that these companies
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  Speaker 1: to reflect the music that we're releasing at these trecord companies. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because it's really important because like you said
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  Speaker 1: with Kurt Franklin, it's timely. Music is timely because music
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  Speaker 1: plays a major portion, a major part in protests, made
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  Speaker 1: a part of inspiring people. Music. Music, music is emotionally
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  Speaker 1: driven and that that emotion can turn into activation, which
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  Speaker 1: you can turn into change. So so we've been a
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  Speaker 1: guy who's been in the music business and because you're
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  Speaker 1: an inspiring figure, you know, you know that, you know that,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, something you've been wanting to do since
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  Speaker 1: you were twelve years old? What what? What those the
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  Speaker 1: natural instincts of music that affects you feel music? Just
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  Speaker 1: you know, I listened to what I'm happy. So what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, I listened to her when it's trying times
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  Speaker 1: and we're going through a crisis, like we're dealing with,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's the pandemic or some of these horristic, you know,
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  Speaker 1: traumatic events that we've witnessed. I've heard about. We've seen
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  Speaker 1: the videos for brother George Floyd and Amara Arebury. We
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  Speaker 1: saw those videos. We saw and her that audio. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, like when I think about the Civil Rights movement,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the actual movement itself, music was such a
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  Speaker 1: part of that time, but it's such as you know,
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  Speaker 1: when I think about you know, the Curtis Mayfield and
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  Speaker 1: the James Browns, and you know what I mean, like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these brothers, they were speaking to what
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  Speaker 1: was happening during that time and to me, it's no difference.
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  Speaker 1: So to me, music when I listened to those songs,
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  Speaker 1: I've listened on to the market gay actually, uh yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and I'm in Dallas now, but you know, literally, I
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  Speaker 1: was in my hotel just vibe and out and I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 1: just somethings haven't changed, But it's getting the lyrics still.
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  Speaker 1: They're still here and that's a present. But it's just
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  Speaker 1: that you think about that time and how to cope
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  Speaker 1: and get through what we're dealing with now because we've
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  Speaker 1: seen this. My ancestors have seen this, my parents, my grandparents,
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  Speaker 1: my family, they've named this before because they made it
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  Speaker 1: on the other side and so we're weak. But music
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  Speaker 1: is a is a source to getting to the other
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  Speaker 1: side and coping and hoping. You still distressed and just
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  Speaker 1: the anxiety that yeah, that's that's music for me. Wow, brother, brother,
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  Speaker 1: there's also many of us dying. Marvin Gaye, I got
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  Speaker 1: to I've got chills when you said that those lyrics.
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  Speaker 1: Think about those lyrics and you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they still impact you the same way of us dying. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you play that song right now on top of George Floyd.
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  Speaker 1: You play that song right now on the mall. Mom Aubrey,
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  Speaker 1: you play that song right now, on top of Brianna Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: You play the song right now on Anybody that's black
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  Speaker 1: in America will understand what that is. People who may
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  Speaker 1: not just hear that's good music, we hear that as
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  Speaker 1: an anthem of truth in our community. And that's why,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's why. That's why when when the whole
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  Speaker 1: concept of Black Music Month and the month of June
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  Speaker 1: was being recognized, I felt it was important because sometimes
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  Speaker 1: we need to take a moment and say, this is
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  Speaker 1: why music. This is why music makes a difference. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're this is why we're we're special to us, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why it's important that I'm talking about it and
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  Speaker 1: you're you're being a person that delivers that content and
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  Speaker 1: knows how it affects people, not only just in record sales,
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  Speaker 1: but how they get up, how they live there to day,
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  Speaker 1: how they celebrate weddings and birthdays and parties, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I know that when I was driving field. When I
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  Speaker 1: was I drove from when the pandemic immediately hit, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't fly. I drove from Atlanta to Houston, where my
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  Speaker 1: family was at and so I loaded up by the
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty of my best songs. You know I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't load up no talking book, no
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  Speaker 1: audio book. I loaded up a hundred and fifty of
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  Speaker 1: my best songs that I hit the role. Brother. But
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  Speaker 1: post anonymous against and a lot of them created by
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  Speaker 1: our very own people, all black people like present. Come on,
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  Speaker 1: my friend, I'm talking about man Field Thornton. He's uh
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  Speaker 1: television producer, senior vice president, general manager r C, A inspiration,
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  Speaker 1: already just sneaked it in on me that Kurt Franklin
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  Speaker 1: on the phone with the senior vice president gentleman of
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  Speaker 1: RC Inspiration. I always look at myself. I feel good
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  Speaker 1: about my life. I feel even better about my life
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  Speaker 1: when I've impacted our influenced individuals and let them know
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  Speaker 1: that they can do what I do and do it bigger.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of these other He's an individual that has
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  Speaker 1: because that means I gotta work harder because I'm not through. Phil,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not through, okay, But you're the boy. We we
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  Speaker 1: working on the project that you can't be through until we. Man,
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  Speaker 1: don't get me, mad man. This pandemic got me stopping,
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  Speaker 1: Now you're the board of the National Museum of African
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  Speaker 1: American Music. Tell us about the museum. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: super excited about the National Museum of African American Music,
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  Speaker 1: which will be being National Tennessee opening. We're looking at
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  Speaker 1: the September. I mean, the pandemic has really impacted our
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  Speaker 1: you know, opening grand opening plans. But it's just all
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  Speaker 1: things black music, RV CHAZ, hip hop, great game, gospel,
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  Speaker 1: uh you you name it, and just it just it's
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  Speaker 1: a really one destination. Located on Fifth and Broadway in National, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: directly across the street from Bridge Stone Arena and on
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  Speaker 1: the other interspaces, the Rhyman Auditorium, perfect location, but celebrating
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  Speaker 1: all Thames Black music. We got artifacts in there, you've
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  Speaker 1: got music, interactive activities. I mean it's as a movie
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  Speaker 1: going and viewing the room. I mean it's it's incredible. Now,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of concerts and Steve Harry not winning there
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  Speaker 1: and so that bad bar several times. Now, how did
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  Speaker 1: y'all get that location right there? Because that's a prime
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  Speaker 1: real estate location. You're not buried at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the corner. Around the corner, nobody see you right in
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  Speaker 1: the primary fifty six thousand square feet dedicated to preserve it, educating,
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  Speaker 1: suburbating after good Americans in their music, come on talking
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  Speaker 1: about how do you get that? How do you on
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  Speaker 1: the board? You got some inside information? I got a
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  Speaker 1: I got a little. You know, originally the actually the
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  Speaker 1: location was gonna be on Jefferson Street. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you knew that, but ritinally was gonna be on
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  Speaker 1: Jefferson which is iconic and iconic street. But um, we
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  Speaker 1: city of Nashville and the state of Tennessee. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: say they've been extremely supportive of this whole you know,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the museum, uh, financial and otherwise, and everyone thought, why,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: you know, why have this cut away from where we
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: can actually put it prime real estate as far as
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: this new Fifth and Broadway development that you know they
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: just built brand second new and just to have it
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: in the heart of the city because just you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: increase that foot traffic. Again, you can't get no better
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: location than the rhyme And I said, Bridge Stone and
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: some of the the you know, bars and everything down there.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: But it's gonna be restaurants in there in this whole
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: new development. But it's what I mean, like it's the
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: fifty six thousand square feet um this is in Again
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: there's an educational component, but I'm loving that it's about
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: music and it's prime location. That that's fine real estate
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: right there. You are, Come on now the thing that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: that's what I like about it because of the fact
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: that you want to, like I'm trying to do now
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: during this civil arrest, I'm educating people and it's important.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: So if you educate people there know why you're frustrated
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: while you're why there's a need to be upset and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: maybe you're joined the upset team, okay, instead of the
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: confused team. But the whereas that means that other other
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: other than African Americans will be able to, oh what's
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: that and walk in there and comfortably enjoy the experience
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: because the National Museum of African African American History and
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Culture in DC is off the chain. You can't even
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: get in any place. And that's the goal of what
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: you guys are trying to accomplish with the museum in Nashville. Correct, absolutely,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: and where I can't wait to people seeing. I mean
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: it's I've seen all these sketches and I actually did
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: a hard hat tour recently. It is phenomenal. Now it's
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: in free admission or donations. How how does that work
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: as far as the entry, Yes, sir, yeah, there will
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: be being an emergent ticket for the attend the museum,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, every ticket in group fails available. Awesome.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: That is that's important to say that. Now has a
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I know I'm talking in June, just just turn June
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: and Septembers and potential has a lineup been set yet
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: or potential? This is what we're gonna do on the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: inaugural day of the event because you know, President Obama
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: was at the inaugural event and uh for the African
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: American Museum. So was just that opening week opening day
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: looking at If you don't have it on your agenda yet,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you can tell me. But I'm just trying to get
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: some sneak sneak sneak peak information from our listeners, you know.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And originally, you know, before the pandemic, we had this elaborate,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: bigger grand opening for September. But due to the you know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the current circumstances, we're reevaluating everything to see what makes sense.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: But I will tell you that said, we have a
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: huge gonna be a huge celebration either way, even though
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: we have to move the actual opening celebrations back a
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: two months. We've got some big, big, big names and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: ben for our Legend Gale that we host. You know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: any Lee Dan Williams when you mentioned earlier, the co
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: founder and mother Black Music, She and I, you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: co chair the you know, the Legend Gale a couple
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: of years ago, and so we're actually gonna co chair
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the next one and honor I'll tell you one of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the biggest artists in the world. That's all I'll say
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: right there, well, I know, come on now, the biggest artists,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: come on, now, we got is. I'm not gonna miss
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not eve gonna mess with you like that. I'm
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: not gonna mess with that because because it's only one.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: You know, Michael Jackson did Okay, she she left out
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that by herself. I'm just gonna say some I just
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: said one of the biggest artists. Perfect everyone. I love it.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I love talking to you. Now. Let's let's talk about
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: what are some of the ways in your eyes, you
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: see music industry changing over next several years, Because you know,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: we've seen how labels and people are dropping their own music,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the digital growth of digital and everything as far as
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the music injuwy concern. What do you see now with
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the music industry over the next several years? Feel I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: see the increased growth of our independent labels. I think
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: we're gonna see even more. We've seen them a huge
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: ride already, but I think we're gonna see more uh
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: indie labels popping up and just having more strategic partnerships
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: with majors. There will always be a place your major
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: record labels because that the added services and the value
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: they add with you know, some of the accountant. On
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the sink licensing level, there's a lot of value of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: majors add so I still see majors having a place.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I just think the relationship will change where I think
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: we're gonna see a huge increase of independent labels and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: artists and producer only. I think we're gonna get big
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: d R right. I know my intro. I just spoke
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to Nerica. I said music industries, academic, television user and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. But tell us about some of the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: artists that you you you manage and some of the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: people you've had at your label that you work with.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: So people here a clear understanding feel of your body
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: of work and why I'm so how and you you
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: know your accomplishment at such a young age, and your
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: your television h features that you've been out there that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you pitched and as well as Adam executed. Telling us
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: about a little bit more in detail, and uh, you
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: know the floor is yours as well. On the on
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the management side, you know, I'm a little bit older
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: than I look, but you know I U I've managed
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: everyone from Faith Evan to Kenny Lattimore to the group
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: s w V. You know I was instrument want to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: reunited them in they years back and work with them.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So I've worked at a wide range there. I've managed actors,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: you know Mac Wild, I had worked with Michael B.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Jordan's for abrief Stead. I mean, I've worked with a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: wide range of talent in addition to producing some of
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you know, great TV shows for Lifetime. I didn't Surviving
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Content movie that was you know, Biopico, mich Lay. I've
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: also done you know, the R and B DVA series
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: in the Man World on for BT and TV. One
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: of those shows I've lived on. But yeah, just you know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: those are just some of the artists. And then on
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: when I worked at my previous company E one, you know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I worked with life of Layla Hathaway. We won three
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Grammys together for her live album and you know now
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: we said nine weeks the number one with the song Angel,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: but also had the fun You're working with the iconic
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Shirley Caesar and with instrumental working with my family over
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: w and w uh. You know you want to secure
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: her her star on the Walk of Thames Walking. I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: was so again again, I've worked with some of the best,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the best, and I'm completely grateful. I would do it
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: again again, just greatful to have all these different touchpoints
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: of people on TV, music, film, It's incredible. We don't
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: don't well. The thing about it is, you know, I've
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: been fortunate to slide alone that same run. You know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: being a talent manager, which is a whole different langue,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and being in the television producer's a whole different lane.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Drop to CD with my man Osley with Ron Ron
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Easley back in the day when he was over the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Island Records. So each genre called for a different hat.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: How do you manage all the different hats and maintain
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: your sanity? My team, my team in each area with
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: each venture and each relationship, whether it's an artist I'm managing,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: whether it's a TV show I'm producing, so whether it's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: my birth day of the label, it is the team
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: in those respective areas that I rely on and trust
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and support because I may have the initial baby, you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: know how this, We may have that initial idea, but
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: we're nothing about the people to help with textecutes. So
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta give credit to my team. I
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: could not do it. So, whether it's my production crew
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: on one of my TV or film projects, or again
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: my artists that I may manage all of the day
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: to day people be accounting the alterney, the assistance, like
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: we couldn't do without them. So that that's me is
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: how I'm able to balance and juggle at all. And
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: it is a juggle. But I'm also making sure I'm
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: getting making time for me as well, my mental, my physical,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: my just my overall standards. So that's important too. Awesome,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: awesome and closing, you know, I you know gospel music.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Does gospel music get the respect it gets? As far
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: as you know, you're a pop you have R and B,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: hipp up and all these genres kind of like explode
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and and in the industries for its video or views
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: as far as sales, what and in gospel has influences,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: influences at all. You know, it's the it's the basis
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of everything happening pop, so R and B all at
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: hip hop? What? What is? What? What do your what
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: is the state of your thoughts about gospel music as
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a genre when you talk about music in general? You
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: know what gospel has gone back, you know when you
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: came back to to the seventeen seventeenth century has been around.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: It's one of those beginning of genres, the foundations of
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: what we call American music to this day actually actually
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: doing the pandemic gospel. Interesting enough, with one of the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: few gals that we saw entries in streaming down that
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: is that that you know, So that's that is a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: testament to the longevity and no gospel it's not going anywhere.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, we just did versus online Sattle with a
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: celebration should I say, with Kirk Franklin and Fred Hammond,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you know, just you know a little while ago, and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: just to see the outpouring of love and support from
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: everybody from Kerry Washington to Snoop Dogg just literally part
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: of this celebration and just to see the numbers and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: people celebrating with something gospel music on the big stage
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and so gospel absolutely, I think it's gonna get better
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: some of these new artists, uh in the marketplace, like
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: your current Hawthorns you're Travis Green and Johnson mcgremold's. It's
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: it's a bright spot. It's a bright spot to gospel
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: going forward. So we're gonna continue to celebrate with Kirk
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Franklin and you're line to Adams or a married Mary
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and the people we know, I love, but we're also
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: gonna pay it for But I think the future was
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: extremely bright for you like that. And you said, Travis Green,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I love that young man. Look crazy. I love that
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: young man. You know it's a beautiful thing as usual.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on the show.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: You owe me Kurt Franklin's video and you over a
• 26:55
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• 26:58
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• 27:00
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• 27:03
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• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Feel you're my man. You are my inspiration. You're perfectly
• 27:09
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• 27:12
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