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Matthew Chapter 9: Bible Study by Atheists · Sacrilegious Discourse - Bible Study for Atheists

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  [SPEAKER_00]: husband wife do you know what we're doing today hey hey well last time we read Matthew chapter eight sure's fucked it yeah and in that chapter we had um jesus curian leprosy he did from and and then then he cured a roman servant slash slate slave he did from from a distance he was over there
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Superman, Lisa R. I.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Power.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then there was like demons all over the place.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was demons on every street corner.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And specifically, down in front of like a cave or something, you couldn't do a rock without hitting a demon.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And the water.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then he took the demons that were in those two guys.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They were in the tomb.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He infected a whole, you know, like herd of pigs.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then he drove the pigs into the sea and they died.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the channel was like, yeah, thanks.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they didn't like that much.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They did not accept Jesus that day.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They did not take Jesus into their heart.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They took Jesus out of their town.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he killed a lot of people.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of bacon, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they don't need baking, but those other people might.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, as I'm saying, if they didn't like Jesus, maybe they weren't, you know, Jewish.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what they were, but they were not fans.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We tell you what they weren't.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They killed their pigs, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And there was a guy that was shepherding those pigs.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a curse.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Two guys.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then you just lost their job that day.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not cool.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not a good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not a good thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Just to un- un- demonize to guy, why didn't we hear the follow-up from those guys?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Why didn't we get their backstory?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We should know more about them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you guys just had demons taking out of you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What's up?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: How did that go?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What was that like?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Tell us that story.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to know more about this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What's the before and after?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What's the like to have a demon- But no, we should move along.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They, you know, we put the demons in the pigs and then the pigs die and that's all we get.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, could you, like, still have thought process when the demon was inside of you?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you know what was happening and going on around you when the demon wasn't inside of you?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: See, I think that would, on an interview with the ex-demons, would have been, would have been very appropriate, I feel.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I have a lot of questions.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, how, how's do I?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: How's do I?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think, what did, what did it, how did it feel when Jesus took the demons out of you and put him into the pan?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you feel empty afterwards?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Did your brain feel overstretched?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Was it a thing that was just in your head or was it like in your body, too?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You think you'd want to be a demon again?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What was the like?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The whole thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that was Matthew chapter eight.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Prison cons of being possessed.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Go.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Which means that today we're going to be reading.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Little Matty chapter nine.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's do this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We are getting to know little Maddie chapter nine.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck is Jesus going to get up to in this crazy chapter?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he'll kill some Falcons with demons or let proceed or I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Remember last time when he got on a boat?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We forgot to mention that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's on a boat.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's on a boat motherfucker.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So Jesus stepped into a boat, again, I guess.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, all right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Crossed over and came to his own town.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-oh.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: His own town?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: His own town.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is my town.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Is this Bethlehem?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It could be.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Nazaree or something.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know which one is his town.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to keep reading.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Does that sign says no, that is down.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That is a good question.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, just for geography sake.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we should answer that in the Q&A.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Some men brought to him a paralyzed man lying on a mat as you do.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I always be carrying men.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And drag men on mats to people that are paralyzed all the time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the man, take heart, son, your sins are forgiven.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you like how I gave Jesus a Texan accent?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And this point and you know that it was Jesus because it's in red ink.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I just put out to mention that totally.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean that makes it real.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: At this point, some of the teachers of the law said to themselves, this fellow is blaspheming, knowing their thoughts, however.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he can read that to, oh, that's right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's doing the math.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He used this said, mm-hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus did not like that on thing, but this is what Jesus said and ready.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that there's more to that sentence and that the rest of it goes
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the, you know, we don't, I don't know that we, there might be stories of him having a girlfriend, but if he does, this is probably why he doesn't.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Why he doesn't have a girlfriend.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not a big thing because like, you can read someone's mind.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's just not cool.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I told you to stop bringing my thoughts, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He asked, which is easier to say your sins are forgiven or to say you don't been walk.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So he said to the paralyzed man, get up, take your mat and go home.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So just because he says that he has the ability to forgive sins, they should believe him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: they just, they just know that they're good then, they're, their, their problems are solved.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They've, they've been saved.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to heaven.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He had to make him be walkie for them to believe about the forgiven part.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's like, I know that you're paralyzed or whatever, but don't worry, because your sins are forgiven.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, excuse you, that's rude.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You're blaspheming.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't just walk around for given people.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And Jesus is like, fine.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I thought it was just enough to say you're forgiven, but okay, get up and walk too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So then the man got up and went home.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And they praised God who had given such authority to man.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, but my question here would be, wouldn't God have been the one that caused them to be paralyzed, maybe, or could have been involved in it at the very least?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Everything does come from God.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, like, if he,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, the whole of the whole thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a circle.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Goggles, my mind.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: First, the chicken or the egg, which came first, the paralyzed or the unparallized.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, like, and people are like, well, people deserve the things that they get.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, so a child with leukemia deserves that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, that's something they deserve.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: My nephew deserves Type 1 diabetes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was diagnosed when he was two.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, he deserves that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: right and that that always bothered me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't think people really put a whole lot of thought into the whole
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  [SPEAKER_00]: God is in control of everything and creates this whole plan and the plan includes it's an ineffable killing children, you know, like even even today.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If we're going with the whole God plan thing, it seems like a really bad plan, honestly.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, it really does.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I would love to be on board.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I've said this multiple times.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me be the judge of it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good plan or not.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Which you know?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think anybody should really get to be the judge, but she should be able to judge for yourself whether you think it's a good plan.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know what the plan is, but I can't imagine a plan good enough that would involve murdering children.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't even like kids that much.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna need a lot of too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I like those too, but I don't like much more other children.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm gonna need a very thorough and nuanced reason why we have to kill children.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You're really after getting the weeds on this one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: God, God, you know, it's true.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: As Jesus, we're entering a new little, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the text collector's booth.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Follow me!
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, hold on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Is this the book of Matthew talking about Matthew the tax collector?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if this is a different Matthew or if this is a match collector, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to follow him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is literally the book of Matthew saying, and he found Matthew and now if he's following him, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is, which is yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Matthew, which is, which is, let's just find the Matthews really weird.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew's house, many tax collectors and sinners came in eight with him and his disciples.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, whoa, what does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: On hearing this, Jesus said, and it's in red ink, so you know, it's real, it is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But go and learn what this means.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I desire mercy, not sacrifice, for I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So basically, he's like, I know tax collectors and sinners are so gritty, but I'm sitting with them
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  [SPEAKER_01]: like he's basically agreeing with them that they're gritty.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, and that's all well and good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But if he's there to help because they need help, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They're centers and they're bad people or whatever, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: for the most part in the Old Testament, if you were a bad person, you were just fucked.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't, you didn't get to be redeemed.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got exiled.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: At least not that I was aware of, but now, but now even before Jesus dies, Jesus is like, oh, I can redeem you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna redeem you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's a very bold statement.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a very bold statement.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a very bold statement.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I get that he's saying he's the son of God and everything.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But think of all the other prophets running around at the same time and they are probably not preaching anything like this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: or they are, who fucking knows?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody knows what, but there's a crazy message though.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Comparatively speaking of what we were used to here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as compared to the Pentatoo.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And look, look, look, I like the idea, like one of the things that used to appeal to me about Jesus was that he tried to bring up the lower, the less than that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like what you knew of Jesus as a child, being you being raised in a non-religious home, where the only thing you knew about Jesus is, I think he's a good guy who takes care of the downtrodden.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that aspect of it is seems admirable, but it also, like if we're taking this in context of the whole Bible thus far, it's a little, like, this is really weird.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're having to reconcile two different takes on this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: One is as a literary critic.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: how this fits into the greater story.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Overall, versus how you feel about, but do you like this guide?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that sound cool?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess it sounds cool.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know me pretty well.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel
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  [SPEAKER_00]: much more compelled to give people the benefit of the doubt than you would, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, so I kind of lean towards that, yeah, bring the bad people to me and let's see we can figure out common ground and work there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's how I operate.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that's how people have to operate.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You have a much greater understanding of nuance in society than I do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That is true.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I'm not saying that that's for everybody.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I understand, you know, I also agree that, you know, punch and ask Nazi, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're, they're, they're, they're levels of shittiness.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, it's new ones you might say.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not hugging a Nazi and you would never make me try to hug a Nazi.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Never.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck Nazis.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Go on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that was, I don't remember what I was giving to, honestly.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We were just talking.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I, I, I, I, so I, I, I, I, I, I,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I understand what Jesus is trying to do, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Trying to get those people and speak to them and work with them and, you know, that makes sense to me and it seems like something that's very admirable to do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I approve of this Jesus activity.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Even though I don't like him going text collectors and sinners, I know, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They're so gritty, but I mean, I am trying to help them, those groovy fox.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now we're moving on to a different thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Then John's disciples.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, remember John that Baptist.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was in jail.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess he's not in jail today.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Lisa's disciples.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is says his disciples.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You, you were paying better attention than I was.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Then John's disciples came and asked him, is it that we in the Pharisees fast, often, but your disciples do not fast.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, who gives this?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is just a contest, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The fastest the most.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you care?
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: This would be my answer.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because everything was on display back then.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Remember, everything was very performatory, performatory, performative.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Performative.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the word I was looking for.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus answered, and it's all in red.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: How can the guests of the bridegroom mourn while he is with them?
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: The time will come when the bride groom will be taken away from them.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then they will fast.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: No one so is a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: For the patch will pull away from the garment, making the tear worse.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Neither do people pour new wine into old wine skins.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they do, the skins will burst.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: The wine will run out, and the wine skins will be ruined.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, they pour new wine into new wine skins and both are preserved.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have no wine skins.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I see no one's given before.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Any idea what I just read except for I did get the part about like putting a patch on a torn garment that you don't I think he's saying something and I could be wrong here, but I feel like he's saying that he's the son of God.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't gone through the whole thing yet and they're not gonna fast until after they've completed their mission or whatever the fuck they're doing.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, okay.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, again, I could be completely off here but that's kind of what it sounded like to me.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so he's saying that these kids are still new, these are the new kids on the block.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: They haven't been tested yet.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: They haven't, they've only just joined up.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't know anything about all this shit.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he only just gathered them.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: That, and Jesus has got a thing, he's got a die, you know, and they've got to be there to witness all these things happening.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a purpose, and they're going through that purpose right now, they'll fast when they're done.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or something.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I don't know.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to work them in.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it means something like no one shows a patch of untrun cloth on a normal garment or else the patch will pull away, right?
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got to work work that patch.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what he's saying.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to work them in.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to, they're not ready for all that fasting.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were just fishermen and actually that's what I'm saying he just picked he just did twitchy game twitchy game do Right, yeah, okay.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: If y'all have not seen that as an out.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's from SNL It's one of the do not destroy's that Pete Davidson did with with them and it would like a pre-recorded skit
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: and um they were like for whatever reason like everybody just loves Stanley Tucci which of course I do and and so this song was Tucci Gain Tucci Gain Tucci Gain and it was the funniest thing and every time I bring it up you're always like I don't know what that is.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I kind of remember.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I show you and you're like oh right anyway he just picked up his Tucci Gain.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm telling you, go watch that because it's fucking hilarious.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I love Pete Davidson.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, whatever, I don't care.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so he's like, don't get there.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Which, I mean, that was a better answer than I would have given, which is why you worried about it, fuck off.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mind your own.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Get off my dick.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't be.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that would not go over well in the red print in the Bible.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: get off my deck.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would not probably.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like everybody's always asking too many personal questions.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like when are you blah blah blah?
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like the answer is, what are you care?
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like what if we just don't be smiling at each other?
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know I sound like a villain from like an 80s cartoon.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, next section ready.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: While he Jesus was saying this, a synagogue leader came, oh, oh, this guy is getting in Jesus' face.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now before him, oh, that's not getting in his face.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, he's not, never mind.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's not getting in this face.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's getting in his lap.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: He knelt before him and said, my daughter is just died, but come and put your hand on her and she will live.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Aw, he's cute.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, we all meet.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is a synagogue leader.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just, he just casually won't come.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Someone keep bringing this person back to life for me.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bring me back to my life.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I messed up song up so bad.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was singing two different songs.
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I tried to mash them together.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And in my head.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Back to, nope.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: but that was good though, that was good.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was not what I was doing.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, no.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I was doing that in essence.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, and nobody can do that in essence.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So why did I do that?
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: What did I do?
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and get up.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, wake up.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is that evidence to you?
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so perfect.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly the song that I was trying to do.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Goofy get it so good.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: You did.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, wake up.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So good.
• 18:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, that's another clip we've got to try to remember the share in the discord Which if you're not in discord that's sad for you Because you're gonna miss all of the fun links that I share over there and we're doing this live in discord Which we do every Tuesday at 10 p.m. Eastern on discord.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, you should be there.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is what we're saying.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, so the synagogue leader He's like, oh no my daughter just died bring her back to life.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Whatcha?
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, wake up!
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus got up and went with him and so did his disciples, just then a woman who had been subject to bleeding for 12 years, what Jesus Christ?
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, okay, listen, you're saying what the fuck?
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is real, like when in, you know, they have periods, right?
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And normally it's like,
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: your five to seven days cycle once a month, right?
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or every four weeks, right?
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the perfect thing.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are women who have various issues and I shouldn't say women people with ovaries and philopian tubes.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who they're shedding is like a continuous thing.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: People with endometriosis are other conditions where they constantly bleed.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's the thing.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's only been within, I don't know, I'm gonna be generous and say the last hundred years that women have been able to control when they're cycle, like via medications or surgeries or whatever.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I keep saying women and I apologize, I wanna be more inclusive.
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just women, it's anybody who has a period.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a thing.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, if I had been bleeding for 12 years, I would come up to Jesus too and be like, fucking help.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, not to get TMI, but I'm gonna anyways.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I had issues where my period was getting very, very painful and...
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it was not good.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I was done having kids and the last time I'd had a kid, uh, which was kid who we referenced often on this podcast, they tore my shit up.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I was way done.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I had a hysterectomy and that stopped me from having those.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So like, I'm very sympathetic to, uh,
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I heard you laughy.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mean to get offended at you, but like this lady's like, I've been bleeding for 12 years.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, what the fuck?
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, wait, no, actually that one that one could happen.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'm just, it's just the way that things are presented in the Bible.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: My daughter just died.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been bleeding for 12 years.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: A man on a mat is paralyzed.
• 21:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like there's no lead up.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: These are just like instant character have sympathy.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, with the bad thing.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, over, like, what is the vetting process for Jesus curing these people?
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is there a vetting process?
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or is he just willing to lay care?
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anybody who comes to him with a problem?
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like you've got a problem.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yo, Jesus.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll solve it.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like anybody who approached them and got voice time with them.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was in.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, like it sounds like there's not really, except for that he can read mind apparently.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe he is vetting, but like internally, I don't know.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but look.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't read the rest of this.
• 22:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's read the rest of the lady that had been bleeding for 12 years.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: She came up behind them and she just touched the edge of his cloak.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: She said to herself, if I only touch his cloak, I will be healed.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was like, I'm not trying to bother her.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I'm gonna like intentionally heal.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was just like, he's just got touched.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: But she felt like she didn't want to bother him.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, surely, if I just, you know, only just touch his clock, it'll be fine.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you can see this represented an image before, like the woman is crawling off the screen or something.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, like the woman crawling up behind him and pulling on his, I feel like that's probably what that art is depicting.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Jesus turned and saw her.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: He cart daughter, he said, your faith has healed you.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was like, you're,
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're so good that just whatever you're wearing, your robe will help.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the next question I have here.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the woman was healed at that moment, sorry.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, these people are getting healed, right?
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Left and right, up and down.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: All the other fucking place.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Jesus always says this because of their faith, right?
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yet, they have to, oh, oh, I'm so fucking stupid.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: What?
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: They have to come to Jesus.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just their faith that their faith leads them to Jesus.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what a bunch of shit.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's, that's, that's.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love the life of just when off over your head.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I wish y'all could have seen husband's faiths.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, they all came to Jesus.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just their faith, though.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's that their faith made them come to him.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, sure.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's, but it seems like said, okay, but it still seems shitty, right?
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have faith.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: You already have faith because Jesus is telling you, you've got faith.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got to have faith, faith, faith, faith.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mmm, gonna have faith.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: But in the Bible, though, and in the New Testament here, you have to show up and like ask for the,
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: God, I'm saying all of it.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's literally right there.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is literally what you have to Because what Jesus is asking Christianity is this is exactly what you have to come to Jesus to the You have to come to Jesus and ask him to heal you
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love this.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is so fun.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: The people have to come to cheat.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm getting happy.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have to ask him specifically.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't like go off in my brain until just now.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just their faith.
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: This was just like literally just happened my brain.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, they literally have to quote unquote come to Jesus and ask for.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: the forgiveness slash healing and all of this is literally happening in real time in Matthew right now.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then and then they got a whole bit more like, oh my gosh, we can make this symbolic.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Literally, that's what happened.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: When Jesus entered the synagogue leader's house and saw the noisy crowd and people playing pipes, he said, go away.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: The girl is not dead but asleep.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: What?
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: They laughed at him.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: After the crowd had been put outside, he Jesus went in and took the girl by the hand and she got up.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: News of this spread through all that region.
• 25:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: The girl with the 12 year period is not the same as the girl.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the dead girl.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: The dead girl was the synagogue leader's daughter.
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they said that she was asleep.
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus said that she was asleep.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus says she's asleep, not dead.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm gonna go with she was asleep.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they all thought she was dead, though.
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you don't believe in magic.
• 26:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is draining incredulity too far for husband.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look, like this is way too healing, a sleeping beauty.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: He also healed somebody with endometriosis.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like these people are wanting to see miracles.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so they are.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I mean, and even at that, we're trying to imagine that these are based on real stories, which they probably aren't.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: They probably aren't.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're written after Jesus' death.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's true.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's fair.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: These are stories at the very least Second-hand stories of something that somebody told somebody else.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
• 26:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Next section ready.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: As Jesus went on from there, two blind men following him called out, have mercy on a son of David.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, wait, they're just like son of David, him.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, I mean, I mean, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, so they're still trying to figure, they're still trying to, these two guys just walking around, they're blind, and they're like, hey, hey, you person over there that I can't see, hey, son of David.
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, he, this Jesus had crowds of people following around, so they probably just heard the clamoring.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, it's like the Beatles coming down the street.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Stop, just now you were telling me, absolutely fucking not.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe in that.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now you're like defending it.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm defending that there was a crowd around Jesus probably.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And two blind guys heard the crowd.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, hey, son of Jesus.
• 27:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or son of Jesus.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can believe that.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: When he had gone indoors, he, Jesus, the blind bank came up to him, Jesus, and he, Jesus asked them, do you believe that I'm able to do this?
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Lord, they replied.
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you say yes.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you had seen him cure leprosy, well, they haven't seen him do that.
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's a reason they've not heard about him.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason that they were like, hey, hey, hey, hey, they're coming after him for a reason.
• 28:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: They want to be healed.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So when you say yes, whether you believe that they're not sure.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, hey, they're saying this guy heals people.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: The crowd is like, they're saying this guy heals people.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the blind guys are like, huh, I wonder if you can heal my blindness.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so then they're like, hey, hey, so the David is so then they like, elbow their weight of the front of the crowd.
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, hey, have mercy on us, man, heal my shit.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Jesus is like, do you believe what I'm able to do?
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: wouldn't you say yes.
• 28:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, you would say yes, but also apparently God can read people's minds and hearts.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I know that's the other thing.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this sounds like he's not going to heal these guys.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because they're not true believers.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Lord, they replied, then he touched their eyes and said, according to your faith, let it be done to you and their sight was restored.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I guess they were.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: You just have to say, you're going to go.
• 29:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You just have to say it.
• 29:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 29:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus warned them, sternly, see that nobody knows about this.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: We tell them people.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, he said that in the last chapter, and we had questions about it, which I do have answers to that when we get to our Q&A over this section.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So FYI, that is a question that will be answered.
• 29:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he's like, don't tell anybody.
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Stop telling everybody about all my fucking miracles that I'm doing in plain sight, but they went out and spread the news about them all over that region.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I said, ha, ha, but I'm at Womp Womp.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But honestly, same, same thing.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, while they were going out, a man who was demon possessed and could not talk so many demons, swear God, this was an amazing time period.
• 30:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: While they were going out a man who was demon possessed and could not talk was brought to Jesus.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when the demon was driven out, the man who had been mute spoke.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Where did the demon go?
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: To take over the more pain?
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: What the effect with that demon?
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or did the demon just be like,
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe these were lesser demons.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were just like the, uh, you can't talk demons.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can't touch this.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this mute guy spoke that.
• 30:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: The crowd was amazed and said nothing like this has ever been seen in Israel.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the Pharisee said it is by the Prince of demons that he drives out demons.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they're saying okay.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I remember I did in the Q&A over the sermon on the mound talk a little bit about the Pharisees.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were the ones that were like the rule followers, but only the letter of the law not the spirit of the law.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they weren't like really feeling it.
• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 31:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they like pretend that they're all
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: into the whole religion and faith thing?
• 31:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: That.
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: According to, according to, this is what the Pharisees are according to the people of the Bible.
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't that kind of what the whole revival of Christianity is right now?
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when I was younger, it felt very much like Christianity was very perfumfree and like you, you go to church, you check that box, you come home and
• 31:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: You might read a Bible verse another time or another week or something, but that's about it, right?
• 31:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You, that's how you do church, but now, but now, we have all these like very charismatic and influential pastors and priests and things like that that are trying to reinvigorate religion by bringing it
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: making it hit home closer to home and more heartfelt and more personal, right?
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not great, like I don't think it's a good thing.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not good.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's actually very, they're pulling in strings that are very divisive, you know, and, but it's a similar act, right?
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: These people, the Pharisees were the perfunctory group and Jesus and all these other people that were like, Jesus' eye were,
• 32:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: being all, they're like, no, we've got to feel this religion.
• 32:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is real, this is coming right now.
• 32:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: But in this night, holy shit, they're making it real and present as opposed to just a ritual.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think a way that you could summarize everything you just said is that the Christian political leaders of today are Pharisees.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not exactly where I was going with that, but I was saying more like the Christian leaders of whole were Pharisees, the new batch of Christian leaders, if you want to call them that, are more in line with this like reinvigoration of the religion.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're all the false prophets running around town.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of, yeah.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can get down with that.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're either false prophets or Pharisees, all of them.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: How about that?
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not down 40, the way I hate it.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus is just all right with me for the most part, except for his stance on the queer community, he can get right fucked with that.
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm holding off any judgments until I, I mean, I make no judgments until I hear the whole story.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 33:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say up until this point, Jesus is just all right with me.
• 34:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I still already have some issues with Jesus still.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, women were still chattel and owning humans, slavery.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 34:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 34:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just leave the, you know, leave the pigs a long man.
• 34:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, how about if we just leave each other alone and leave everything?
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just be nice, just don't be a dick.
• 34:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God, it's just not that hard.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we're gonna bring this home now, ready?
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus went through all the towns and villages, teaching in their synagogues, proclaiming the good news of the kingdom, any good afternoon, after life, right?
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And healing every disease and sickness.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's not very quiet and sneaky.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't trying very hard to keep things on the deal.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 34:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: When he saw the crowds, he had compassion on them, because they were harassed and hopeless, like sheep without a shepherd.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then he said to his disciples, in red ink, we go.
• 35:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: The end.
• 35:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's trying to group people.
• 35:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: OK.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's saying, damn, there's a lot of needy people out here to grift.
• 35:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: We need to get more people in our duty game.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I also think there's something to go back to the demon thing, real quick.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's something really dangerous about attributing mute to
• 35:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: demons and attributing all these things to demons or physical ailments and mental illness is everything, everything like that is a demon possession.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, so essentially you're saying that if it can't be cured then you just don't have enough faith and then you literally will ruin people's lives because these things can't be cured through faith.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: And
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: They might grow up in a way where they are made to feel lesser because they have these afflictions, these things that they... Or where the people around them feel like these afflictions were self-wrought and what's wrong with you, that you can't heal it.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, but in reality, though, you know,
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: you can live your whole life as someone who cannot speak and still have a full and rich life as long as people don't treat you as lesser than.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: There are ways to live that life and be just fine.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: But in a religious community, you might be made to feel lesser than because you are that type of person because of these ideas that are in the Bible where you obviously have a demon in you.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You obviously have something wrong with you, you know, spiritually.
• 36:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you are not
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: fully spiritually developed.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You need work.
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of just your good person, and like, why can't we just treat people like people and not throw in evil to things we just can't explain?
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's such bullshit.
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I totally agree.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a very dangerous slippery slope that slides right on end to eugenics, you know?
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it does.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, it does.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: When you start talking about people with what you define as an ailment.
• 37:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and you decide that we don't want those in this society if you have them then that's evil.
• 37:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: We need to get rid of them and if Jesus can't cast it out, we sure as fuck will.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I feel like that would almost be sacralitis because if you, if you use your genics to do that, you're not, you're not allowing God to make that decision.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're letting people take that job away from God.
• 37:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the whole eugenics program was, um,
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was buried under this ledge of Christian white Christianity.
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 38:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can bury anything.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can use Christianity or religion to justify or not justify pretty much anything you want to.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: But that's what I'm saying.
• 38:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's what I'm saying.
• 38:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: When you start calling ailments evil,
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: then you can take it upon yourself to start doing the job for God, because God's not, you know, kind of like how Americans are like, whoa, Jesus is too woke.
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll just do it, do things our way.
• 38:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, you see what I mean?
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can, you can decide Jesus, God, whatever isn't doing it, fast enough hard enough or the way I want it enough.
• 38:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I will enthusiastically take on that work
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know, start being violent or getting rid of the people that I have decided are not things that Jesus wants.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 39:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure.
• 39:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess that.
• 39:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it could make sense either way really, but which is again, more cherry picking more, you can take it however you want to take it.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But just another reason why religion is dangerous.
• 39:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that was Matthew chapter 9.
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, I spoke with.
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think we still have one more chance.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so that means the next time we back with.
• 39:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Little Matty chapter 10.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we will follow that with our Q&A covering chapters eight nine and 10.
• 39:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we'll see you then.