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Tika Sumpter & Thai Randolph Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: There are a dynamic duo. They're very talented in their
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  Speaker 1: separate world, but they on this show as a dynamic duo.
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  Speaker 1: One is an accomplished actress and talented producer. They are
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  Speaker 1: the founders of sugar Berry. Ticka Sumter stars in the
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  Speaker 1: and former member of Facebook's Global Marketing Solutions team. She
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  Speaker 1: is currently the executive vice president general manager for Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Harts That's My Boy, Laugh Out Loud Network. On the
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  Speaker 1: show today, they will be sharing that podcast I've listened to,
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  Speaker 1: sugar Please welcome to money Making Conversation. The owners of
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  Speaker 1: sugar Berry, tick A Sumter and Tyrandolf thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Later that we want to thank you everywhere. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thank you for taking the time, because you
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  Speaker 1: know my show. You know, you just start things with ideas.
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  Speaker 1: And twenty seventeen, I just was interviewing friends that I know,
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  Speaker 1: and they were celebrities and I didn't know why I
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  Speaker 1: was interviewing them, and uh, then I shut it down.
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  Speaker 1: I said, I asked my staff ago, why are they
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  Speaker 1: calling me? Because I don't even know why I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: to him? And so I had to get a point
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  Speaker 1: of view. And so the reason I was excited about
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about sugar Bear, but I want to
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  Speaker 1: first talk about your relationships that you two have and
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  Speaker 1: then the podcast sugar because you guys have a point
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  Speaker 1: of view. And I went like, wow, they upfront, they
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  Speaker 1: started it with the idea of a concept of who
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  Speaker 1: they're talking to. So let's talk about the whole how
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  Speaker 1: that process of creating that podcast shoot got started. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, well it was kind of it's weird. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was the first it was Sugarberry, and then
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  Speaker 1: we decided, you know, okay, out of this we can
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  Speaker 1: have real conversations. So kind I got together through a
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  Speaker 1: mutual friend of ours who introduced us, and I kind
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  Speaker 1: of hitched throughout some kind of ideas that had on
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  Speaker 1: the wall about creating the space for black mothers um
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  Speaker 1: where we can be free to speak on anything we
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  Speaker 1: need to speak on or sometimes we're not included in
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  Speaker 1: all conversations, including you know, our bodies and and and
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  Speaker 1: even being hospitalized with pregnancy, but even I VS. We're
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  Speaker 1: just just somewhere to laugh and indulge in every everything
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  Speaker 1: across the spectrum of motherhood and sisterhood. So you know
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  Speaker 1: it's I love this idea, and we we came together
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  Speaker 1: to create what Sugarberry is now in the sugar on Stitcher,
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  Speaker 1: which is our podcast. So we just wanted to laugh.
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  Speaker 1: And and also I think it's very therapeutic for both
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  Speaker 1: of us as well as being mothers, but not only mothers,
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  Speaker 1: but just human beings. You know, who are who are
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  Speaker 1: career women in this world who needed an outlet and
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  Speaker 1: if we we know, if we needed it, there's so
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  Speaker 1: many other women who who who who who needs it
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  Speaker 1: as well? Well you know tie your thoughts as well. Yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think, um, you know, Montika came up
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  Speaker 1: with the idea for launching a platform and a community
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  Speaker 1: you know that catered to you know, women of color
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  Speaker 1: and black moms in particular. When I first set to
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  Speaker 1: hear out there, when when we first got together and
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  Speaker 1: she told me about the idea. You know, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: skeptic ten nature, so I'm always looking to you know,
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  Speaker 1: poke holes and a business idea. But what captured me,
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  Speaker 1: that's what you've got business with. Yeah, let me tell
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  Speaker 1: you with somebody who is opposite of all the towns
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  Speaker 1: that you have. Yeah, you need someone to poke a
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  Speaker 1: whole through everything. I want you? Why why nobody else
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  Speaker 1: asking me why you want meet? Well? Well we we
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  Speaker 1: we both had respect for this mutual friend. And I
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  Speaker 1: was a huge fan of Kika's work, but I was
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  Speaker 1: I was very skeptical about, you know, sort of the
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  Speaker 1: digital publishing space. You know. I know that you know,
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  Speaker 1: we as black women are you know, the fastest growing
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  Speaker 1: segment of entrepreneurs of this country, but we also faced
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  Speaker 1: the most hurdles when it comes to things like access
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  Speaker 1: to capital, and I wanted to make sure when you know,
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  Speaker 1: we were even as I was listening to the idea
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  Speaker 1: before she invited me to, you know, become her partner,
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  Speaker 1: I was ready to to sort of like poke the hole.
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  Speaker 1: But what if she was talking? I found myself taking
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  Speaker 1: off my business hat, and as a consumer, it just
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  Speaker 1: resonated with me. I saw as um, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: woman of color, as a new mom, someone who's up
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  Speaker 1: really mobile and thinking about where do I invest my money?
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  Speaker 1: Where do I find the resources you know, what products
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  Speaker 1: and brand and um should I support? There was just
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  Speaker 1: this sort of deficit of resources and particularly resources that
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  Speaker 1: we're speaking to people who look like me and to
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  Speaker 1: shared my experience. So you know, I said, hey, not
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  Speaker 1: only am I interested in this, I would be your
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  Speaker 1: first customer. And I think what's really informed all of
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  Speaker 1: our efforts, you know, whether it's you know, the content
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  Speaker 1: that we program on our site or you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know what we're doing with the sugar or the
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  Speaker 1: brand partnership that we're forming, it's all deeply personal, right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's we want to make sure that when we're rolling
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  Speaker 1: out conversations or content that it's stuff that we can
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  Speaker 1: identify with. And and that's what I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: could really resonated so far with it with the audience,
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  Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, our community feels like we're
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  Speaker 1: speaking with them and not ask them. We know. It's
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  Speaker 1: great And I'm just joking about the relationship because options
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  Speaker 1: do attract. And then you know, in business, what what
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  Speaker 1: you guys both bringted their tables, a huge amount of
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  Speaker 1: success and a huge amount of work ethic from from
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  Speaker 1: different lanes, and and the fact that I love about
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  Speaker 1: it because I've been tracking Chick a little bit. You know,
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  Speaker 1: she's she produces a lot of projects, she pictures a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things, and she has a strong entrepreneurial base.
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  Speaker 1: And then you're coming from that Facebook side, which is
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  Speaker 1: the beast of social media. So that that's a knowledge
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  Speaker 1: that when you guys come together, that's almost like a
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  Speaker 1: I can see why somebody would say you two need
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  Speaker 1: to talk because you're emerging digital social Uh. You know
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  Speaker 1: it's from a celebrity stand because it tickers a celebrity.
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  Speaker 1: She's a brand, she's a visual brand, and it allows
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  Speaker 1: you to get news articles and get interviews and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden you get on the show and
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  Speaker 1: you tell your story. But the thing I always tell
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  Speaker 1: people about the most successful black magazine right now currently
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  Speaker 1: is Essence Magazine, and that's because it talks about women
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  Speaker 1: of color, black women. It's point of view, and that's
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  Speaker 1: what I love. When I heard your podcast and I
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  Speaker 1: had to go to it, I said, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: interview YouTube and not listen to your brand. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the things that stood out when interview was like,
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  Speaker 1: when you guys say I hate being pregnant, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you know you know, you know when you'll explain that. Okay, Look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy to know you because you know, people would
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  Speaker 1: say stuff you go that makes sense. They have the
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  Speaker 1: right to say. I love being pregnant, but I hate
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  Speaker 1: being pregnant. Okay, get this. I don't like the process.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the weight getting. I don't like the ankles,
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  Speaker 1: I don't like I don't like you taking me that months.
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  Speaker 1: If this could be done in a couple of hours,
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  Speaker 1: we're good. So yeah, I mean, I think it's giving
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  Speaker 1: you know, exactly what you said. It's giving um people
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  Speaker 1: the place to be able to say things that they
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  Speaker 1: normally couldn't say in public or just the face where
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  Speaker 1: you know that's the truth, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: And we are able to say the truth, especially around
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  Speaker 1: each other, because we're not gonna look at each other
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  Speaker 1: oh wow, that's funny, you know, And then sometimes when
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  Speaker 1: my mother's a space where they can be super honest.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like so in love with that. I
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  Speaker 1: think you're the smartest guy in the room all the time.
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  Speaker 1: But I was making going to an environment and gain information.
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  Speaker 1: And so when I was listening and first of all,
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  Speaker 1: you know on the podcast, I listened to you when
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  Speaker 1: you Gave Love to Megan the Stallion because sugar album
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  Speaker 1: I c d O by the same name. So like,
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  Speaker 1: so when I was listening to it, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: because I got first of all, I have six sisters. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so no, you're talking about a guy who has been
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  Speaker 1: around women all his life. Okay, four of them are
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  Speaker 1: older than me. And so so here I am going,
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  Speaker 1: really do believe you two are hitting the home run
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  Speaker 1: with what you're doing with your podcast. That's just something
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  Speaker 1: just telling you that I've done a lot of great
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  Speaker 1: things in our life. I produced a lot of great
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  Speaker 1: things in the life. You guys are onto something very
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  Speaker 1: very special, And I just wanted to say that we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna continue this interview, but I want to let you
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  Speaker 1: know that I was laughing. I was like, are you
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  Speaker 1: guys are natural? First of all, articulate, everything was very clear. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, because you know exactly we don't
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  Speaker 1: even talked about the fact that both of you guys
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  Speaker 1: are malls. You know, y'all start talking about that, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, you know, I said, how do you
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  Speaker 1: know in life we're always caught up in looks? Were
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  Speaker 1: caught up in and um and because you know when
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  Speaker 1: i'm when I look at it, because you know, she's
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  Speaker 1: a star, you know, she's beautiful. I wouldn't even think
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  Speaker 1: she had a child. So I listened to the pocket.
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  Speaker 1: When when did she dropped this time? So something like
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm heavily in form very well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just having a good time laughing
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  Speaker 1: at both of you guys going sty're crazy. I said,
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  Speaker 1: they're crazy, they're crazy and so and so yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for that. Well that's crazy in
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  Speaker 1: that's t n T. That's Tika and ticket something. Tyrandall
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  Speaker 1: brilliant on fields. You know her for mixing and a sonic.
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  Speaker 1: The Hedge Hard Hit movie made over three hundred million
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  Speaker 1: dollars worldwide hundred and thirty six million dollars locally. Um.
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  Speaker 1: general manager and executive vice president. Please welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show. Let's talk about uh, further expanding into the lifestyle,
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  Speaker 1: the culture of women of colors sugar berries talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: You take that one? Sure? Um so you know so so,
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, Fantica came with the idea and we
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  Speaker 1: first started talking about it. What was interesting is we
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  Speaker 1: had seen similar efforts really scale and grain traction with
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  Speaker 1: you know, non black women. So you have the Groops
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  Speaker 1: of the World with Sinnis Paltrow. Um, you know Jessica album,
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  Speaker 1: who are a great you know fan of his his
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  Speaker 1: launch and scale honest company in a really interesting way,
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  Speaker 1: Corney Kardashian launch, and we said, where is ours right?
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  Speaker 1: And to your point about UM, you know, sort of
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  Speaker 1: Tika being a huge celebrity but also just so well
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  Speaker 1: loved by the community and very respected, it was who
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  Speaker 1: better to helm this and she's been so open and
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  Speaker 1: honest about, you know, her own experiences, and then we
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  Speaker 1: wanted to make sure those that sort of you know,
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  Speaker 1: the one thing you wanted to separate, Yes, you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be aspirational but very inclusive UM. And so on
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  Speaker 1: one side of this sugar Bearer, you really feel when
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  Speaker 1: we launch UM. There's a video on the site where
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: we talk about the reason for being in and we
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: say this is a love letter to black mom. And
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: so this really is a passion project UM, with us
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: wanting to provide the resources that we were looking for
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that we didn't have. On the flip side of that, however, though,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: there was this grounding and this being really really good business.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Black African American women build a tremendous amount
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  Speaker 1: of purchasing power. UM. You know, if African Americans alone
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: work country, they would be the fifteenth largest economy in
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the world, and African American women control the lion share
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: of that purchasing power, and so the impact that we
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: can have on consumer goods, on media consumption. You talk
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: about face both look at how Red Table Talk literally
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: resides the watch platform, or when you look at you know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: network television and the success of the likes of This
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Is Us and Blackish and now Mixed Ish, you see
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: that it's not just that we influence our own purchasing behavior,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: but we have a tremendous amount of general market um
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: purchase influence. And so in founding Sugar Barrier, we wanted
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: to really develop and embraced um, you know, black moms
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and tell a different story about black motherhood or a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: myriad of different stories. But we also wanted to connect
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: with brands and advertisers and media companies in a real
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: way and say, here's our community. Let's communicate to them
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: with care and nuance. Right. You know, it's really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: One of my other favorite shows, romantic shows is a
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Cherish Today. I don't know if you've seen that series.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: That's one of the most ability that beautiful, beautiful, I'll
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: just laid down there. I'm feeling your ladies I'm feeling
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you your boart feeling both of you guys. Is the
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: is the only thing about it is that when we're
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: talking about you know, you're welcoming and love and environment
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: for moms of color by providing content surrounding health, which
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: is important, wellness, finances, self care, travel, and so much more.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Now let's go back to let's talk about the health first,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: because you know right now during this pandemic, you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: immediately more African Americans affect are dying because of the pandemic.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: What do you talk about when when your what is
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: your platform for health when it comes to women of color. Well,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you know, some of our articles have been about real
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: immediate financial health, like the financial literacy of it all
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: with the stimulus check or just COVID nineteen, how do
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you apply for unemployment or or things like that. So
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: we've been really trying to drive articles like that out.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: We've been trying to talk about the disparities. I mean,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: that's what we do anyway, we talk about the disparity.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: But that's one way we've been trying to get information
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: out to the people who need it most. We know
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: it's really because in the business as we live that
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a male dominated business. You know, where
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: there's a producing executives, and but women are becoming you know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: they are as far as entrepreneur women of color. What what,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting you on the spot to say, you
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: guys are the experts. But you all my sugar team. Okay.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna come to you, Okay. And so I
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: got I got, I got megastar over here, I got
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Mega Mega produced over here, I got Mega executive over here,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Megastar Mega executive. Okay, y'all dynamic team. So with that
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: being said, why why is it? Why? Why how African
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: American women feel they can do it? Then they don't
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: have to work for anybody anymore. When they've been portrayed
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you know as as and you know Fams Maids or
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: overweight on television a lot or the or the lovable
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: character that's always funny. Other than they have been very
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: few times on TV that African women have been traded
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: as professionals. So why do you feel that now African
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: women say, no, we can do this, we can go
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: out there and we can be business people. Well, I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: think black women have been carrying the load of all
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: businesses from the time he came to this country. Every
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So I think Michelle Obama talker, that's that the young
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Michelle Obama. We've just been we've just been pushed down
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: all the way to the bottom of the totem pole,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: have not gotten anything back for all the work we've done.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: But I think now, obviously the time has changed, and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you know, people are starting to create things for themselves.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: They're like, listen, I can you know all the streaming platforms,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: all the platforms online that people are posting their stuff
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and not waiting for people anymore or the powers that be.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And I think we're Our culture is the culture that pushes,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you know, pushes forth the conversations. We we pushed forward
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: what's cool, you know, and we've been doing that for
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: so long. And I think we've been doing it and
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: everybody else has been taking it and capitalizing all of it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: And now we're like, wait a second, we're always left behind.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Let's do stuff for ourselves. Let's collaborate, and let's let's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: show who we are. We're very dynamic, well rounded people
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and every aspect, you know. And so I think it's
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: not that we couldn't do it before. It's just the not.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Not only was the opportunity not there, but the tools
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: weren't all there, and people weren't leaving doors open for us,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: you know, or acting like they knew our stories better
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: than we knew ourselves. So I think just the time,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: timing has changed, and people are, probably especially people of color,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Black people are we're sick and tired of being sick
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and tired of people constantly taking control of our narratives.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Then I thank you, and I think we have we're
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: living in the residual reality of a couple of generations
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: of really strong black you know, of generations of strong
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Black women who really prepare this generation of women, right
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: like I think if you look at the pasture that
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: our mom's had. What's interesting is if you look at
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the research and not just the number of um new
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: entrepreneurs who are asking American women, but if you look
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: at how many of those are first generation college students,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it's pretty daggerant. So you have to think about the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: seeds that we're sing, you know, just you know tonys ago,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: yours or shirty years ago that said, Okay, I'm gonna
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: make sure my daughter goes to school and the school
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that he has this you know sort of pastors independent
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and so you know, I said, I really think that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: this is like the fruit of many of our mother's
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: labors to them yeay um. And then I think you
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: see this solidarity forming where they're almost seemed to be
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: this resistance for so long there could only be one
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: of us. And whether it's seeming or the number of
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you know, um women's groups and sororities and um, you
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: know sort of consortions that you're seeing where you know,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: we're pooling our resources, um in our efforts to really
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: amplify and support each other. It's a really beautiful movement
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: that's going on amongst women of color. I can't tell
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you on the sugar how many amazing entrepreneurs we have
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: had in one fast or another, from interior designers and
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: furniture store owners to um, you know, people in the
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: wellness fields or trans you know, like Debbie Brown and
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: the wellness field who's really transforming things. But the one
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: through line is that everyone has been so supportive of
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: other women of color. So I think movement or undercurrent
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: there too. You know, it's really Uh. The thing about
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: it is that in hearing both of your articulate the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: play and the mission and I'm talking to take us
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: something in Tyrande Off their the host of The Sugar,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: one of their many and devors as a podcast which
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: airs every week and the listeners can laugh, learn love
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: and as they spill the sugar instead of the tea,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: they shared infibrary celebrating sisterhood and motherhood. And you know
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the thing about it is that when I when you
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: when you mentioned you know, Jessica album, you're missening to
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: some other people you know right now as a podcast,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and then you mentioned red Table. Now what you guys
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: are doing is not red Table. It's something totally different.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Does this does will this become visual? Will we'll be
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: able to see this in a streaming platform maybe or
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a syndicated player maybe, Because I'm telling Sean McDonald's a fan,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Because first of all, I love talking to you guys.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Y'all really, are you know kids been muddon? Jeff? You
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: know Lauren Hardy, y'all really are y'all opted? And yeah,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: y'all sounded like you know you know that I need
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: to see y'all on TV because I go is that
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Tika Tuck? You know, I got put that old ear
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: to the to the phone, you know what he's talking about. Yeah, Yeah,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: we're absolutely excited to once we get out. Obviously, once
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: we're all able to leave the house again, we have
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of plans. You got to you got to, yeah,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: a bunch of series on our on our platform sugarberry
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: dot Com. But also, um yeah, see the visual of
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the actual podcast on streaming, because it's just a wonderful Um.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I've always been a fan of Falward
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Essence Magazine, the Essence Festivals all those years and just
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: going down there and seeing five hundred thousand you know,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Black people and to walk around and at least eight
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: of them or African American women walking around, you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: examining their culture, building their culture, and throughout this country.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: You know, your uh Circle of Sisters in New York
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: that's a giant festival. Charlotte, that's a giant female festival.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: So they're always festivals for women, geared towards women. But
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I like the fact that you guys are becoming a
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: varce an entrepreneurial vorce and saying women are beyond let's
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: let's sen to beyond the kitchen, beyond being just cute,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: being just being being a person. A face of attractiveness,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: your business people, your people who you know, your your
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: your your wives, you're raising kids. But guess what you're
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: more than that is that is that basically the story
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: in a in a version of what you guys are
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: trying to accomplish and tell on a daily basis, not
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: only with your platforms Sugar, but with your brand Sugarberry.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, motherhood should be enjoyed not in
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: doors to all these stories. But I also think you know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to your point about you know, knocking being a pretty
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: face and not just being what's what's so interesting is
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: from a business partnership perspective in Tatica's earlier point about
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: finding someone who you know is sort of who balances
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: your strength and weaknesses, but also who has the same
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: work ethic. Think that it's so hands on, not just
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: in sort of the program she's hands on in the
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: creative direction and the programming and the editorial in do
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: deal structures, and so I think that you know, it's
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: it's really really hope to lay up a blueprint for
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you know, women and just entrepreneurs in general. Um, it's
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: a it's a lot of hardware, but but also um,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you know there's their space for everyone at the table,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and so so much of what we talked about, even
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: on the sugar is what this journey has been like
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: for us, like watching during the COVID crisis and you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: our own you know, sort of hurdles with you know,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: raising capital. So um, So yeah, I do think it's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: a it's a point of inspiration, Chica. What would you say? Yeah,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's a point of inspiration. And I think
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: it's just I mean, I don't think I think having
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a pretty face is just not enough, and I don't
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: think anybody just I don't think anybody wants to just
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: be a pretty face. I think they just have to
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: find their passion and what they're really good at and
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: then go from there, you know, and try to seek
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the opportunities where they are, and start from where you are.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we know, you know, I'm talking to very
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: two very smart, smart ladies. And I would say, you know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I saw Tica. I saw in one of these movies.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I think you start with Jamie Lee Curtis and um,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and you are and yeah right right right and you
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: um and you were rattling off these terrorist names and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I went, I went ain't no way I could say
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: two of those names correctly. You just articulate them so smooth,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and so it's just it's just, you know, there's nothings
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: like that impressed me. I'm just sorry. Yeah, I'm just
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a simple guy. Tica T A T. I'm just simple
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: like that. That. But the more because I was like,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm gonna do that. You did it.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: You did it. I believe you. I believe you even
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: if you said it ain't wrong, you said it clear well.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Talking to the Stars of the Sugar is an incredible podcast.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I would do me this favorite send me some banners
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: so I can promote I got, you know, I got
• 30:20
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• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I got my fan club all with ainty thousand. I
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: got several platforms. I'm a fan and not just a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: fan of you too. I'm a fan of what you
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: guys are accomplishing. And I know a journey takes a
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: lot of village members, and I'm a village. I'm one
• 30:39
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• 30:41
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