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ELECTION NIGHT 2022 RECAP! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Senator. It is right now eleven thirty at night. For
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Speaker 1: everyone that's listening this morning, we have been doing a
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Speaker 1: live verdict before this. I want to do a recap.
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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear now that if we were
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Speaker 1: gonna be waiting up for an official result in a
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Speaker 1: lot of these races, we would not get any sleep
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Speaker 1: at all. Let's kind of recap where we are at
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Speaker 1: this moment. I think you would agree with me. That
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Speaker 1: is the highlight of the night is we're taken back
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Speaker 1: the House. The concerning moment of the night is the
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Speaker 1: Senate is still very much it's even at this point,
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Speaker 1: and that concerns all of us. This was a map
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Speaker 1: that was a map that was designed in this midterm
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Speaker 1: for Democrats. They had the advantage. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: tribalism in this country. We can see now shocking that
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Speaker 1: Fetterman is still in this one. Shocking what we're seeing
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Speaker 1: in Arizona right now. But let's focus on the one
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Speaker 1: exciting point in the House races. We are going to
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Speaker 1: have a substantial red wave in the House. That means
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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi is going to retire and we won't have
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Speaker 1: to deal with her anymore. But we're also going to
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Speaker 1: have subpoena power in the House to get some stuff
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Speaker 1: downe that needs to be looked at. Well. I think
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Speaker 1: that's right. I think it is a good election tonight,
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Speaker 1: but I also think it could have been much better.
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Speaker 1: So it is a red wave, but it's not as
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Speaker 1: big a wave as it should have been. Frankly, given
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Speaker 1: the disaster from the Democrats, this should have been a
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Speaker 1: massive red wave and we're going to take the House.
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Speaker 1: But at this point it's not clear how big a majority.
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Speaker 1: I had hoped it would be a forty fifty vote majority.
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Speaker 1: I think it will be substantially smaller than that. We
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Speaker 1: are losing a number of close House races that we're
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Speaker 1: winnable that we didn't win. The Republicans at this moment
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Speaker 1: have one hundred and seventy five seats, Democrats are one
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Speaker 1: thirty eight in the House. There's one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 1: one at eleven thirty one Central time that are still
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Speaker 1: out there. And again we're going to win back the House.
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Speaker 1: That's going to be great. Senator. I want to get
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Speaker 1: the Senate right now, and this is the part that
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Speaker 1: is very concerning. It's forty seven forty seven as we speak.
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Speaker 1: We're going we're headed for probably a runoff in Georgia.
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Speaker 1: For people that don't understand this, if you don't get
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Speaker 1: above fifty percent right now in Pennsylvania, if Fetterman has
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Speaker 1: a forty thousand vote lead with eighty two percent in,
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Speaker 1: and that's concerning that, that is very concerning. What does
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Speaker 1: that tell you about the mistake that was made with
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Speaker 1: And I say mistake because I think Oz was the
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Speaker 1: easier candidate to beat him my opinion in the general. Look,
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Speaker 1: I went all in for Dave McCormick in the primary.
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Speaker 1: I leaned in vigorously. Part of the reason I went
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Speaker 1: all in as I thought he was the strongest conservative
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Speaker 1: who could win. I think if McCormick had been the nominee,
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Speaker 1: he would have won decisively. I hope oswins as we're
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Speaker 1: sitting here late at night. I supported Oz once he
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Speaker 1: was the nominee. I wanted him to win. I think
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Speaker 1: Fetterman is a spectacularly bad candidate. He's radically, he's extreme,
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Speaker 1: he's on the bleeding left. He's going to join if
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Speaker 1: he if he becomes the Senator, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie
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Speaker 1: Sanders in the cuckoo caucus of the Democrat Party. That
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Speaker 1: is not good. That's not I think where a lot
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Speaker 1: of Pennsylvanians are. But but there were. What does it
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Speaker 1: takeaway that a guy that has clearly cognitive issues has
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Speaker 1: had this stroke. I hate that for him sincerely. But
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Speaker 1: can't even get through debates, says good night at the
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Speaker 1: beginning debate. Cannot understand questions, basic questions. This is a
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Speaker 1: guy you wouldn't want to be the pilot of your
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Speaker 1: plane or your uber driver. You probably wouldn't hire him
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Speaker 1: for a lot of jobs right now. It's because of
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Speaker 1: the of the medical issues, and yet he's leading as
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Speaker 1: we speak at eleven thirty three at night, in a
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Speaker 1: race that is so important that could that could really
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Speaker 1: deal with who's in charge of the Senate. Look the
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Speaker 1: two million, three hundred and eighty six thousand, five hundred
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Speaker 1: ninety five people who as of now have voted for Fetterman,
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Speaker 1: they only care about one voticass and that's for Chuck Schumer.
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Speaker 1: That they don't care that he can spell his name,
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Speaker 1: they don't care that he knows what's going on. They
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Speaker 1: want him to vote for Chuck Schumer because we are
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Speaker 1: so deeply divided and tribalized. That's their team for the
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Speaker 1: same reason that there were no Philadelphia residents rooting for
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Speaker 1: the Houston Astros. Why because their team is the Phillies.
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Speaker 1: Of course, like you know that, it's not complicated. If
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Speaker 1: you're a Philly guy, you root for the Phillies across
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Speaker 1: the country. And this is true on both sides, This
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Speaker 1: is true red and blue. Were people right now put
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Speaker 1: on their jersey and they're not focused on If you
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Speaker 1: could pull those Democrat voters, I'd love to see a
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Speaker 1: room attended those Democrat voters and be like, Okay, do
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Speaker 1: you agree with Fetterman voting over and over and over
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Speaker 1: again to release murderers do you agree with that? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Do you agree with Fetterman saying we should release one
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Speaker 1: third of the criminals in prison in Pennsylvania? Do you
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Speaker 1: agree with that? Like, his positions have been radical, and
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Speaker 1: yet at least in this election, and we've been moving
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Speaker 1: more and more in that path, radical or not. And
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Speaker 1: by the way, I think many, if not most, of
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Speaker 1: those Democrats have voted for him, don't actually agree with
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Speaker 1: those views, but they don't really know about them. The
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Speaker 1: corporate media doesn't cover them, and their view is just
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Speaker 1: I'm on team Democrat. Yeah, soote I vote Democrat and
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Speaker 1: that's where we are. If you're going to win, you've
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Speaker 1: got to make the election about issues and not personalities.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, this is a broader point. I
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Speaker 1: think too many of these Republican races became personality battles.
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Speaker 1: I when you have first time candidates who've never run,
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Speaker 1: who are celebrities or you know, coming from outside, they
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Speaker 1: have no record, they have no voting record, they've not
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Speaker 1: been involved in issues, they've not that, they've never taken
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Speaker 1: a stand on anything. They frequently make major mistakes, and
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Speaker 1: you know, experience matters, like actually knowing what you're doing matters.
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Speaker 1: You were a serious competitive tennis player. You played at
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Speaker 1: all miss. You know, if I wandered out on the
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Speaker 1: tennis court for a competitive Division one game, I'd get crushed.
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Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter that that on my iPhone, I
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Speaker 1: have a tennis game that if I flicked my finger,
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Speaker 1: I can I have a wicked backhand on my iPhone.
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Speaker 1: But it actually experience does matter, and acts does matter,
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Speaker 1: and spending. You know, when you were seven years old,
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Speaker 1: you were going to tennis camp and practicing and you know,
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Speaker 1: hitting a backhand over and over and over and over again,
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Speaker 1: so that it became routine. If you look at some
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Speaker 1: of these races with first time candidates, what they became
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Speaker 1: was personality battles. The single best political advice I've ever
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Speaker 1: gotten came from Heidi, and it came years ago, right
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Speaker 1: when I was getting started, and she said, remember, it's
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Speaker 1: not about you. It's about them. It's about their lives,
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Speaker 1: it's about their kids, it's about their family, it's about
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Speaker 1: their future. You can tell a bad candidate if they
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Speaker 1: stand up there and say over and over again the
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Speaker 1: word I I I. You know, I remember back in
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight the Iowa Caucuses, Hillary Clinton
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Speaker 1: was supposed to have a coronation and this unknown senator
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Speaker 1: from Illinois stuns the world by beating her. And I'm
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Speaker 1: watching the TV speeches that night and Hillary Clinton gets
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Speaker 1: up at her concession speech such as it was every
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Speaker 1: third word was I I I and over her right shoulder,
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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton was standing the best natural politician of his generation.
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Speaker 1: And you could see Bill Clinton physically wins. It was
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Speaker 1: like he was being punched. I remember, I remember watching it.
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Speaker 1: It was the difference between Hillary and Bill Clinton was
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Speaker 1: just night date. It's like, how did he not coach
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Speaker 1: her more? He was in agony. I mean it was
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Speaker 1: he was in actual pain. Every time she said I,
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Speaker 1: you could see the pain in his eyes. You cut
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Speaker 1: to Barack Obama and his speech that night, every third
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Speaker 1: word was we we we watching them. My reaction is
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Speaker 1: that guy's gonna win. And I will say, in too
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Speaker 1: many of these races, it became about the personality and
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Speaker 1: not about the issues that impact the kitchen table, the kids,
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Speaker 1: the family, the safety, the security that impact the people.
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Speaker 1: That's what we need to make races about. There's some
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Speaker 1: good news tonight. One of your dear friends, one of
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Speaker 1: your closest friends in the Senate. We were concerned about
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Speaker 1: this race, talked about it on this show. You went
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Speaker 1: out there for Mike Lee. That race has now been
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Speaker 1: called for Mike Lee. You've got to be happy about
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Speaker 1: that personally. Look, I'm very happy. If Mike Lee had
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Speaker 1: lost tonight, it would have been cataclysmic. I literally would
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Speaker 1: have been in tears if Mike Lee had lost. He
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Speaker 1: is by far my closest friend in the Senate. He
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Speaker 1: has a smart, principled conservative. He's also the single most
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Speaker 1: frequent guests on Verdict. I think Mike has been three
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Speaker 1: times on Verdict. There's no other person that has been
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Speaker 1: that many times on Verdict. His race was close. Public
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Speaker 1: polling had it three points. At one point, it had
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Speaker 1: him down. He ended up winning by as of tonight,
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Speaker 1: twelve points. He ended up winning pretty decisively. And I
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Speaker 1: think what happened was Republicans came home that even the
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Speaker 1: sort of so the reason he was in danger is
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Speaker 1: all the d's we're voting for McMullan, and the sort
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Speaker 1: of wobbly ours who want to be nice and aren't
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Speaker 1: sure and think Mike is really conservative. They were flirting
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Speaker 1: with McMullan and and I think the tribalism prevailed, and
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Speaker 1: they said, Okay, I'm not voting for the guy the
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Speaker 1: Democrats support. I'm coming home. I'm glad of it there,
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Speaker 1: I'm not glad of it. In the New York ubernatorial race.
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Speaker 1: I wish Lee's elded in one. He ran an amazing campaign,
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Speaker 1: by the way, with not near the resources that the
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Speaker 1: Democrats had. You and I talked about this on the
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Speaker 1: Live portion earlier and for I think it's important to recap.
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Speaker 1: If there's any big take way from these midterm elections,
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Speaker 1: is that Democrats are doing a hell of a lot
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Speaker 1: better job of fundraising and funding their candidates. Republicans are
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Speaker 1: holding back great candidates by not raising as much money
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Speaker 1: as we need to to be competitive and to win
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Speaker 1: some of these races. And that may be one of
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Speaker 1: the biggest takeaways from these midterms is it is time
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Speaker 1: for Republicans to go out there and to get in
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Speaker 1: this game and write more checks and to give more
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Speaker 1: money to candidates because Democrats are doing an amazing job
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Speaker 1: of that. Republicans are are letting too many candidates kind
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Speaker 1: of hang out to drive for too long before at
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Speaker 1: the last minute they go, Okay, let's give a little
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Speaker 1: extra cash here. Well, the damage has already done. Democrats
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Speaker 1: are far better at fundraising nationwide than we are. We
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Speaker 1: should learn from this now getting ready for the president
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Speaker 1: in the big election twenty twenty four. Look, we also
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Speaker 1: need Republicans to step up and answer the call, and
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Speaker 1: we need serious candidates with experience. You look at the
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Speaker 1: best candidates this cycle. Adam Laxalt in Nevada, who I
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Speaker 1: backed early. Adam was the attorney general in Nevada. He
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Speaker 1: ran for governor, did not win governor. But he's smart, experienced, talented,
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Speaker 1: he has a record, he read a disciplined campaign. Sitting
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Speaker 1: here tonight, we don't know if he'll win or lose,
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Speaker 1: but he was the best candidate to win in Nevada.
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Speaker 1: If Adam doesn't win in Nevada, nobody could have won.
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Speaker 1: And he was by far the best candidate to win
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Speaker 1: in Nevada. Another one of the really good candidates this
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Speaker 1: cycle was Eric Schmidt in Missouri. Same thing. He was
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Speaker 1: the attorney general in Missouri. Smart, discipline, it had been
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Speaker 1: on the ballot, had a very conservative record, knew the pitfalls,
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Speaker 1: knew the questions that knew the ways you can step
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Speaker 1: on a landmine, and blow up if we end up
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Speaker 1: if the Democrats keep control of the Senate, which is
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Speaker 1: entirely possible as we sit here tonight. I don't think
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Speaker 1: it'll happen, but it's possible. You know one person who
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Speaker 1: could have altered that single handedly, Kris s Unw, the
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Speaker 1: governor New Hampshire. Yeah, Kris sin Uknew, a very popular governor.
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Speaker 1: If he had run for Senate, he would have won.
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Speaker 1: And he made the decision. I like being governor. It's
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Speaker 1: a better job, you know my reaction. So what it's
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Speaker 1: a better job that's good for you. How about for
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Speaker 1: the country. How about for the three hundred million people
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Speaker 1: that are getting screwed by these left wing socialists. Look
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Speaker 1: Arizona right now. I hope we pull out Arizona. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about Arizona, because Arizona is one that you
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Speaker 1: and I talked about a lot. You've been out there.
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Speaker 1: This was a race that was obviously personality driven. To
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Speaker 1: go back to that theme for a moment, and what
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Speaker 1: we're seeing in Arizona is not what we wanted to see,
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Speaker 1: at least at this point tonight. As we are recording
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Speaker 1: this at eleven forty three in the evening, and I
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Speaker 1: will say, if you followed traditional standards for how you
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Speaker 1: win Arizona, the obvious candidate to run was Doug Doocy,
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Speaker 1: the incumbent Republican governor, relatively popular in the state. If
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Speaker 1: you're talking about who could beat an incumbent Democrat with
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Speaker 1: a ton of money, Doocey was the obvious choice. So
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Speaker 1: why did Doocy not run? Doucy didn't run because Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump Patson and if Doocy had run, Trump would have
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Speaker 1: carpet bombed him into oblivion. They would have had a
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Speaker 1: civil war and we would have lost. So as a
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Speaker 1: result Doocy didn't win. If we end up losing Arizona,
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Speaker 1: I think we ought to look back and say, well,
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Speaker 1: was there a candidate who could have won, and why
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Speaker 1: didn't they run? And is that good? You look at Colorado.
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Speaker 1: I think Colorado was a winnable state, although given the
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Speaker 1: tribalism that played out, it may have been less winnable
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Speaker 1: than possible. Initially it was perceived. I think Bennett was
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Speaker 1: a very weak incumbent. I think it was vulnerable. But
16:57
Speaker 1: you look at the Republican Canada at Joe O'Day, he's
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Speaker 1: a business guy, never run for office, didn't know anything
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Speaker 1: about politics. Were nice guy, I met him, I liked him,
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Speaker 1: I supported him. What killed him? One? He was massively outspent.
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Speaker 1: But secondly he went on one of the Sunday shows
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Speaker 1: and they asked him, Hey, what do you think about
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Speaker 1: Trump running in twenty four And he said, well, I
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Speaker 1: would actively oppose that, that's a bad idea, and I
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Speaker 1: would campaign against him, and he listed several other people
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Speaker 1: that he would support. Now, in a normal universe where
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Speaker 1: you had someone trying to run in Colorado, trying to
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Speaker 1: appeal to moderate or independent or liberals in the Denver suburbs,
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Speaker 1: that's not an insane answer for someone to say in
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Speaker 1: a state like that. But the reaction of Trump should
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Speaker 1: have been obvious at this point. Trump's reactions are entirely
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Speaker 1: predictable and consistent, yes, which he is not waver in
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Speaker 1: his response. The next day, Trump turned around and punched
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Speaker 1: him in the face and told people, don't vote for
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Speaker 1: the guy, and the race was lost at that point. Now, look,
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Speaker 1: I wish O'Day when asked that question, that's not a
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Speaker 1: hard question for O'Day to dodge to simply say, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm focused on twenty two and and and the voters
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Speaker 1: can worry about that in the future. But it is
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Speaker 1: an example where the fact that you had a candidate
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Speaker 1: never run who didn't understand, how are they going to
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Speaker 1: try to get me to step on a landmine? The
18:33
Speaker 1: reason that's a landmine in Colorado is whatever answer he gave, yeah,
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Speaker 1: pissed off a big chunk of voters He needed. He
18:40
Speaker 1: needed all the Trump hardcore supporters to be with him
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Speaker 1: to have a prayer, but he also needed to not
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Speaker 1: alienate the rest of the voters. And so that combination
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Speaker 1: I think was unfortunate. You look at one of the
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Speaker 1: other thing, yesteen points as a governor, while at the
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Speaker 1: same time we lose the Senate race. That's shocking. If
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Speaker 1: the Democrats keep the Senate by one seat, Chris Sanuna
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Speaker 1: single handedly could have changed that, which it's amazing it's
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Speaker 1: going to come down to that. You look at Georgia.
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Speaker 1: Now we're seeing a little bit of a lead for Warnock.
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Speaker 1: I don't think either person at this point in the night,
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Speaker 1: it looks pretty clear they're not going to get to
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Speaker 1: the fifty plus one that you're gonna need to win.
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Speaker 1: That's going to go back to runoff. This could also
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Speaker 1: be for the control of the Senate. It could all
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Speaker 1: come down to Georgia, which which is not a place
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Speaker 1: we want to necessarily go back to. Look right now,
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Speaker 1: it looks like we're headed to a runoff in Georgia.
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Speaker 1: Oh this is good Wisconsin. Right now, it looks like
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Speaker 1: Ron Johnson has a three point lead with eighty eight
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Speaker 1: percent in a seventy four thousand vote lead. That's positive.
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Speaker 1: I think Ron will hold on. That's another seat we
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Speaker 1: need him to hold on. I think you will. Fetterman
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Speaker 1: is up sixty two thousand votes with eighty three percent in,
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Speaker 1: and so how we deal with that? All right? Warnock
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Speaker 1: Warnock is up right now, Yeah, almost thirty thousand votes
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Speaker 1: with ninety five percent in. But they're both below fifty
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Speaker 1: percent right now. So it looks like we're headed to
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Speaker 1: a runoff. When you look at this, the media is
20:20
Speaker 1: obviously going to go really, really crazy and analyzing how
20:26
Speaker 1: much the Donald Trump endorsement helped her hurt? What is
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Speaker 1: the takeaway from this from from that, because they're going
20:33
Speaker 1: to spend weeks on this saying was he was he
20:37
Speaker 1: an asset or did he take away? You look at
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Speaker 1: he went all in in that ration. Michigan for Tutor Dixon.
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Speaker 1: She lost there. That was called pretty early in the night.
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Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't put money behind it. Well that's true. Look,
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Speaker 1: going all in, when you have one hundred million dollars
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Speaker 1: in the bank, go spend money. Tutor Dixon had no money. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I mean it was it was a massive differential
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Speaker 1: in spending. Look, going all in is not sending out
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Speaker 1: a tweet. Look did it help or hurt both? It
21:07
Speaker 1: helped enormously. Jd Vance would not be a senator without
21:10
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, period, full stop. Jady Vance was losing that primary.
21:15
Speaker 1: Trump came in, endorsed him, and it catapult advanced to
21:19
Speaker 1: the lead. Now it's clear that Trump's endorsement has a
21:23
Speaker 1: much bigger impact in a Republican primary than in a
21:26
Speaker 1: general election. That much is clear. With Vance, it turned out,
21:31
Speaker 1: and he's one of the exceptions. He'd never run before,
21:35
Speaker 1: he was a first time candidate, and yet he proved
21:37
Speaker 1: more disciplined than some of the other first time candidates.
21:42
Speaker 1: And I will say you and I have talked at
21:44
Speaker 1: length about the nationwide month long seventeen state bus tour
21:48
Speaker 1: I did. I spent an entire day with Jade Vance
21:51
Speaker 1: I'd met JD before, but I didn't really know him,
21:55
Speaker 1: and he really impressed me. For one thing. When I
21:58
Speaker 1: came to Ohio, we given to and said use it,
22:01
Speaker 1: and we told that to other candidates. Yeah, his campaign
22:05
Speaker 1: did a better job of using my time. So they
22:09
Speaker 1: had three rallies all over the state in different parts
22:11
Speaker 1: of the state. They had a big fundraiser where they
22:13
Speaker 1: raised a bunch of money that they had me come
22:15
Speaker 1: to on the bus. In between each of the different stops.
22:19
Speaker 1: They had me on the phone non stop to talk
22:21
Speaker 1: radio host all over the state. So they systematically one
22:24
Speaker 1: call after the other. Now you're particularly sympathetic to being
22:27
Speaker 1: on the phone with talk radio host, absolutely, but it
22:30
Speaker 1: was It was impressive. The first rally we did was
22:34
Speaker 1: at nine or nine thirty in the morning, and they
22:36
Speaker 1: had a packed house. They had hundreds of people come
22:38
Speaker 1: out early in the morning or relatively early. Yeah, that's unusual.
22:43
Speaker 1: There are a lot of campaigns that can't do that.
22:46
Speaker 1: And so Trump won the primary for him hands down.
22:51
Speaker 1: But I will say Vance ran a disciplined, effective campaign
22:55
Speaker 1: and won the general. And one of the lessons I
23:00
Speaker 1: think we need to take is to win to win
23:05
Speaker 1: in twenty two and to win in twenty four. We've
23:07
Speaker 1: got to be united. We've got to have There are
23:11
Speaker 1: desperate parts of the Republican Party where if we're at war,
23:17
Speaker 1: the Democrats win. Now, that doesn't mean that within the
23:21
Speaker 1: party we shouldn't press the party. Look, I have famously
23:24
Speaker 1: battled Republican leadership for years, and I fully expect going
23:28
Speaker 1: forward to continue doing so. We should have vigorous fights
23:32
Speaker 1: about what we should stand for and what we should do.
23:35
Speaker 1: And I'm going to press harder than anyone for the
23:41
Speaker 1: Republican majorities to act like it and deliver on our promises.
23:44
Speaker 1: By the way, we just saw Wisconsin narrow it's now
23:47
Speaker 1: thirty thousand vote margin. That's less than ideal than Fetterman's
23:52
Speaker 1: up sixty two thousand votes, which is just shocking to
23:55
Speaker 1: me in Pennsylvania that Fetterman, a guy that had the
23:57
Speaker 1: worst debate I think in history modern political times, is
24:02
Speaker 1: actually winning by sixty two thousand votes. As we do
24:05
Speaker 1: this at eleven fifty two Central Time at night, over
24:08
Speaker 1: doctor Oz there, and I want to say, by the way,
24:12
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, the Democrats have gone out of their way
24:15
Speaker 1: to say, remember the votes won't be done on election night,
24:17
Speaker 1: we're gonna be counting for days to come, So who
24:20
Speaker 1: the heck knows what kind of cluster, Yeah, is gonna
24:26
Speaker 1: unfold in Pennsylvania. But the degree to which both Pennsylvania
24:31
Speaker 1: and Arizona, I don't know if the counting, and it
24:33
Speaker 1: may be true in Nevada also that the counting could
24:37
Speaker 1: continue for some time. It seems I have a feeling
24:40
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing another verdict, especial one on Wednesday,
24:43
Speaker 1: because that's how long it's going to take to figure
24:45
Speaker 1: out what all this actually is going to look like.
24:48
Speaker 1: But a clear lesson is when you go into a
24:54
Speaker 1: general election, you've got to unite the clans to use
24:59
Speaker 1: a Braveheart reference, You've got to bring everyone together. If
25:03
Speaker 1: we're divided, we lose. Another clear lesson is you need effective,
25:14
Speaker 1: serious candidates maya philosophy is the strongest conservative who can win,
25:19
Speaker 1: And you've got to have resources that if we send
25:21
Speaker 1: our candidates in and they're being out spent three to
25:24
Speaker 1: one or five to one or ten to one, they
25:26
Speaker 1: will lose. And at the end of the day, we
25:30
Speaker 1: need to ask ourselves, do we want to lose our
25:32
Speaker 1: country because we're not funding these people because the differential
25:36
Speaker 1: is deeply concerning. So those are two significant takeaways. Well,
25:42
Speaker 1: let's talk about the mindset for everyone that's hearing this.
25:46
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people that are going
25:48
Speaker 1: to be waking up and be a little bit depressed
25:52
Speaker 1: that this is the outcome. It is still significant that
25:56
Speaker 1: we're going to take back the House. Yes, that is
25:59
Speaker 1: some thing that is going to hold this administration accountable.
26:03
Speaker 1: It's going to be able to investigate this administration. It
26:05
Speaker 1: could lead to things like a possible impeachment and my
26:08
Speaker 1: archists and other things like that that are very important.
26:11
Speaker 1: And accountability for Fauci and what he did with getting
26:14
Speaker 1: a function research and funding in Wuhan Institute of Virology
26:18
Speaker 1: and all of the things that happened there. Let's not
26:22
Speaker 1: overlook that that is a big moment. We should celebrate
26:25
Speaker 1: it and for people that might be a little bit down,
26:28
Speaker 1: don't be because that is huge for this country. Fully agree,
26:32
Speaker 1: Senate wise, I mean, this is that's where you serve.
26:39
Speaker 1: What's your takeaway? I don't know looking at it right now.
26:46
Speaker 1: Ninety six percent in in Georgia warnox ahead walkers behind
26:52
Speaker 1: neither over fifty. If that goes to a runoff. It
26:55
Speaker 1: could be control of the Senate Pennsylvania right now, Fetterman's winning. Yeah,
27:05
Speaker 1: if we lose Pennsylvania. Let's suppose we lose Pennsylvania and
27:12
Speaker 1: we win Nevada. And by the way, we don't have
27:13
Speaker 1: any numbers right now from Nevada. So I think I
27:17
Speaker 1: think La Salt is a good candidate. But we've seen
27:21
Speaker 1: tribalism Democrats returning to their team. I don't know that
27:26
Speaker 1: Adam wins Nevada. I hope he does. I want him
27:29
Speaker 1: to have campaigned with him repeatedly. I think he's a
27:31
Speaker 1: good candidate, but the results in other states are not
27:36
Speaker 1: suggesting the kind of red tsunami that there's some Nevada
27:42
Speaker 1: numbers that we just got in there. This is obviously
27:44
Speaker 1: with Harley any this is maybe the first place coming in.
27:47
Speaker 1: It's reporting there with zero point one four percent coming
27:51
Speaker 1: in at eleven fifty nine. And these are going to
27:54
Speaker 1: change a lot because they're talking about one polling place
27:56
Speaker 1: or two coming in there. But like you said, you
27:58
Speaker 1: look at tribalism that as a as hopeful there as
28:01
Speaker 1: we would have been a couple of hours ago. Yeah,
28:04
Speaker 1: so listen, if we are looking at a scenario where
28:10
Speaker 1: we lose Pennsylvania and we win Nevada, then we're back
28:17
Speaker 1: to the runoff in Georgia determining control of the Senate.
28:23
Speaker 1: That's not always something. We don't win Arizona and I
28:25
Speaker 1: guess there's an outside chance. But we're looking at the
28:28
Speaker 1: numbers right now and Kelly's up sixteen points and no,
28:30
Speaker 1: fifty percent is in. Maybe, but that's a big, big no.
28:35
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're talking about two hundred and twenty
28:37
Speaker 1: eight thousand vote differential, that's that is significant. That would
28:41
Speaker 1: be a lot to overcome it. Now, you can't overgeneralize
28:45
Speaker 1: because it depends like there can be really blue counties
28:49
Speaker 1: and really red counties, and maybe the blues are all
28:51
Speaker 1: in and the red seven come. So I've seen swings,
28:56
Speaker 1: but swings are typically in the five point range and
28:58
Speaker 1: not the seventeen point. Yeah, this is uh, this is
29:03
Speaker 1: not the night we were hoping for in the Senate.
29:06
Speaker 1: I think we can agree with that. There's the newest
29:08
Speaker 1: Nevada numbers. We just got a big dump that came
29:11
Speaker 1: in thirty three percent reporting there, Adam at forty two percent,
29:16
Speaker 1: she's it now at fifty four percent. Up on the
29:20
Speaker 1: screen there that is significus called fan and this in Pennsylvania,
29:26
Speaker 1: this is not the news here wanting and Fox News
29:30
Speaker 1: has just called the Fetterman race as the winner there
29:33
Speaker 1: forty nine point four to Odz at forty eight point two.
29:37
Speaker 1: That is a gain for the Democrats there. That now
29:42
Speaker 1: changes everything in the Senate. Senator. Um, we've got to
29:47
Speaker 1: win Georgia and Nevada to take control of the Senate
29:50
Speaker 1: and not lose Wisconsin. I think you and I both
29:54
Speaker 1: thought at dinner we'd be fifty two fifty three. That's gone.
29:58
Speaker 1: I was at fifty three fifty or that that ain't happening.
30:04
Speaker 1: Maybe we get to fifty one, but we could easily
30:09
Speaker 1: be with a Democrats Senate. That losing Pennsylvania changes the
30:14
Speaker 1: math profoundly now that they're calling it this way. The
30:18
Speaker 1: biggest mistake in Pennsylvania was picking odds. I did rallies
30:25
Speaker 1: all over the state of Pennsylvania with McCormick. I went
30:27
Speaker 1: all in and by the way, people may not realize this,
30:30
Speaker 1: that was a very very very slim loss in number
30:34
Speaker 1: of votes that night. A few thousand vote, yeah, a
30:36
Speaker 1: couple of thousand votes, and McCormick would have won tonight.
30:38
Speaker 1: So it may be that that primary gave the Democrats
30:44
Speaker 1: the Senate. If that's the outcome, that's hard to stomach.
30:51
Speaker 1: Hard to stomach if you go back and look at
30:53
Speaker 1: that primary, it was a very divided primary and there
30:58
Speaker 1: were forces that were involved that we're very influential and
31:02
Speaker 1: picking Oz that may have been one of the biggest
31:05
Speaker 1: mistakes for control of the Senate. Again, now everyone calling
31:10
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania now for Fetterman. Look, Um, that's not good. Yeah,
31:21
Speaker 1: it's not good for the country. One thing I know
31:24
Speaker 1: for sure, we'll be doing another podcast I think on Wednesday,
31:27
Speaker 1: because it's not gonna it's not gonna end. Uh, We're
31:30
Speaker 1: not gonna know tonight, I think for sure, as we're
31:33
Speaker 1: doing this at midnight. But by the way, Ben, since
31:35
Speaker 1: this is airing tomorrow morning, yes, um, some of the
31:38
Speaker 1: folks watching it tomorrow morning will not have participated in
31:42
Speaker 1: our live event tonight. They may wonder why the hell
31:45
Speaker 1: we're drinking white claws. Yes, that's very true. We should
31:48
Speaker 1: end on at least an entertaining note. We are both
31:51
Speaker 1: having a white claw. Will you ever drink another one
31:53
Speaker 1: of these? Big the rest of your life? I doubted this.
31:57
Speaker 1: That's the only one I'm not gonna do as well
31:59
Speaker 1: I have ever drunk. It was mango. I like mango,
32:01
Speaker 1: but but I tend if I'm going to drink an
32:04
Speaker 1: alcoholic beverage of beer is quite fine, or a glass
32:07
Speaker 1: of wine. I think hard seltzer is not my thing. Well,
32:10
Speaker 1: and honor of you taken two shots of white claw
32:12
Speaker 1: this week and blocking one. I figured it was entertaining.
32:16
Speaker 1: Why so I had two cans full cans on opened
32:19
Speaker 1: cans of white cloth thrown at me. By the way, Ben,
32:23
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, so this is now an empty plant
32:25
Speaker 1: can because I've drunk it. So I'm going to throw
32:27
Speaker 1: it at you that by the one, I'm not gonna
32:31
Speaker 1: throw this. Mine's like ninety percent full. I'm like the
32:35
Speaker 1: kid that's just holding the fake beer in college, right, yeah,
32:38
Speaker 1: no I I well, then please don't throw it because
32:40
Speaker 1: I don't wish you to. I don't wish to smell
32:42
Speaker 1: of mango. Yes, yes, like okay? That will really you
32:45
Speaker 1: come home to two, Heidi, You walk in the bedroom.
32:48
Speaker 1: Your husband stinks of mango. Man, don't even know what
32:50
Speaker 1: you accuse him of. Like where are you? Maybe I
32:53
Speaker 1: rand to cancoon? That would be the only thing where
32:55
Speaker 1: were you really tonight? I don't election nights, um, but yes,
33:00
Speaker 1: in the victory parade for the Astros, where there were
33:05
Speaker 1: over a million people came out in Houston, there were
33:07
Speaker 1: some angry Democrats. Actually, I think every Beto supporter in
33:11
Speaker 1: the state came out. Even though he Beto lost by
33:13
Speaker 1: twelve points statewide. They were at the parade and they
33:16
Speaker 1: were yelling and convinced their guy was gonna win. And
33:20
Speaker 1: you know, one guy flung two full and unopened cans
33:24
Speaker 1: of white claw, which I think the fact that it
33:26
Speaker 1: was white claw is highly revealing. Yes, first one missed,
33:31
Speaker 1: landed in the vehicle. The second one was headed at
33:34
Speaker 1: me and I blocked it with my arm, knocked it
33:36
Speaker 1: down in the vehicle. I wasn't hurt at all. But
33:39
Speaker 1: the fellow was arrested and is facing charges. And I
33:43
Speaker 1: will say I put out a statement thanking the police
33:45
Speaker 1: who did a fabulous job keeping me safe arresting him.
33:51
Speaker 1: But I did say I'm glad the clown who threw
33:53
Speaker 1: his white claw at me had a noodle for an arm,
33:57
Speaker 1: because if he you know, if he could throw a
33:59
Speaker 1: ninety mile hour fastball, I might have been might have
34:03
Speaker 1: been in the hospital rather than here with you on
34:05
Speaker 1: the Verdict stage. And that's very true. As we sign
34:08
Speaker 1: off tonight, Senator, biggest race, you're happy that we won
34:11
Speaker 1: to night at least I want to get that, Mike Lee.
34:13
Speaker 1: Mike Lee, Mike Lee, biggest house race you're excited about
34:18
Speaker 1: for you. You busted your tail on the bus tour.
34:20
Speaker 1: There's gotta be one that you're going I love that victory.
34:23
Speaker 1: So I haven't seen all the results. I need to
34:25
Speaker 1: go through the house victories. I'm very glad Monica Dela
34:27
Speaker 1: Cruz one. That's a big deal in the valley history.
34:30
Speaker 1: It is a seat that has been Democrat for over
34:34
Speaker 1: one hundred years, and so the valley is turning red.
34:37
Speaker 1: It didn't fully turn red this time. I thought it
34:40
Speaker 1: was this time, but it is moving that direction. I
34:43
Speaker 1: think that's a good thing. Biggest shock race of the
34:45
Speaker 1: night for you, Pennsylvania. That's mine too. I was hoping
34:52
Speaker 1: you're going to say that. Look, I think Fetterman is
34:58
Speaker 1: such a radical handidate, and I'm sad that the party
35:07
Speaker 1: tribalism of Democrats in Pennsylvania trumped reason and rationality. It's
35:17
Speaker 1: gonna be very telling for the presidential election Pennsylvania. This
35:21
Speaker 1: one tonight, for me, just tells me there is such
35:23
Speaker 1: a small number of voters that are willing to switch tribes,
35:30
Speaker 1: even with a terrible economy. And maybe it's more on
35:32
Speaker 1: the Democratic side right than the Republican side, but it
35:35
Speaker 1: is shocking to me that with how bad things are
35:38
Speaker 1: in this country and in Pennsylvania, that you still can't
35:42
Speaker 1: get people to vote for what may be best for
35:44
Speaker 1: the community. Instead it's just I'm a Democrat, damn it,
35:47
Speaker 1: and I'm going to always be a Democrat, and I'll
35:49
Speaker 1: vote for the most incompetent human being out there if
35:53
Speaker 1: they have a D next to their name. And that
35:55
Speaker 1: concerns me about the presidential because it's no longer three
35:58
Speaker 1: or four percent of independence that you've got a swing right,
36:00
Speaker 1: the swing voters. It may be down to half a
36:03
Speaker 1: percentage point in some of these states. Look, this election
36:07
Speaker 1: was a turnout battle, and we'll see where turnout comes out.
36:14
Speaker 1: But we're gonna have to process the numbers. Um. I
36:21
Speaker 1: don't know how much of it was that ours didn't
36:24
Speaker 1: turn out as much as they needed to, And I
36:25
Speaker 1: don't know how much of it was that D's despite
36:28
Speaker 1: everything being and the crapper showed up and pulled the
36:31
Speaker 1: lever d anyway and said, you know, you know, give
36:34
Speaker 1: me more cowbell. That that's just what I need, you know,
36:37
Speaker 1: it's it's, you know, to mix my metaphors. I just
36:39
Speaker 1: at Christopher Walkin, but let's go to animal House, thank you, sir,
36:42
Speaker 1: And I have another. Apparently they really like getting smacked
36:45
Speaker 1: with the board and and and want more of it,
36:47
Speaker 1: and that we need to do a better job making
36:56
Speaker 1: clear the stakes of these elections in people's lives. We
37:02
Speaker 1: mentioned before, this can't be a personality battle. It needs
37:06
Speaker 1: to be about substance and policy and how people can
37:11
Speaker 1: have a better life, yeah, or a worse life, because
37:14
Speaker 1: that's what the stakes are. As we end to night
37:16
Speaker 1: twelve h five am Central Time, well after one o'clock
37:20
Speaker 1: Eastern time. If there's any I like to leave people
37:23
Speaker 1: with one thing that you can hold on to, Nancy
37:26
Speaker 1: Pelosi will no longer be the speaker of the House.
37:29
Speaker 1: If there's anything that can get you fired back up,
37:32
Speaker 1: even if you're upset about where some of these races went.
37:35
Speaker 1: At least Nancy Pelosi will retire and we will not
37:38
Speaker 1: have to deal with her ever again. In my side
37:40
Speaker 1: bed as she will become a constituent of Rhonda Santasist,
37:43
Speaker 1: which is particularly amusing because I think she'll to retire
37:47
Speaker 1: to Florida and live on the beach, which which is irony. Personify. Hey,
37:55
Speaker 1: if we made any history night, you drank a wide
37:57
Speaker 1: call and I drank one tenth like tonight, Sentator. I
38:03
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Speaker 1: Senator God bless American to night. The people have spoken
38:39
Speaker 1: in many places. We may not like what they said everywhere,
38:42
Speaker 1: but at least this is the greatest country in the world.
38:45
Speaker 1: And people got to vote today and that always makes
38:48
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38:51
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