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Michael Boatman Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: just gonna tell you I've been watching this dude for
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  Speaker 1: a long time. You hear something, You're here about these
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  Speaker 1: credits and after the credits, we're gonna talk about my
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  Speaker 1: next guest. As an actor of great versatility, he's a
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  Speaker 1: two time n Double A CP Image Award winning actor
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  Speaker 1: screenwriting Arthur I first saw him on the hit comedy
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  Speaker 1: series Spend City, for which he received two in double
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  Speaker 1: A CP Image Awards, while simultaneously doing double duty at
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  Speaker 1: sports agent Stanley on the HBO series All of That,
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  Speaker 1: All the Sailors Serious was Crazy, while Sam That was
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  Speaker 1: the Best botman completely recurring role on Madam's Secretary, and
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  Speaker 1: prior to that, he did double duty as a serious
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  Speaker 1: regular on Nickelodeon with Instant Moms, Opted My Girl Tamra,
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  Speaker 1: who I worked with on Sister Sister, and recurred as
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  Speaker 1: Charlie seens Breath Charlie Sheen's best friend on f Serious
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  Speaker 1: Anger Management. In addition here the recurring series on CBS
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  Speaker 1: The Good Wife. The Good Fight is a spin off
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  Speaker 1: of the of the of The of the Good Wife,
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  Speaker 1: which Michael had a recurring role as Julius Kane. Please,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to money making conversations. I'm happy to have them
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  Speaker 1: on my show. Michael Boatman, Hello, Hello, Hello, Michael, happy
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  Speaker 1: to be here. That's a lot, man, that's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You know I've been I've been very fortunate. Happy to say, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know the thing about it is that you you
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  Speaker 1: you played all your roles with comedic dignity. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that is that like right now,
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  Speaker 1: are you're playing a lawyer right now? Correct? I am, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the Good Fight like like on and and
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  Speaker 1: and so You've always, when I said, comedic dignity, you've
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  Speaker 1: been able to take all these white college jobs and
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  Speaker 1: make them funny. And I record is saying that, yes,
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  Speaker 1: absolute Lee. And you know, I've always I thought about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the kinds of roles and the kinds of
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  Speaker 1: actors when I was a kid. You know, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know when I was a kid that I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be an actor. I I really wanted actually a career
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  Speaker 1: in the sciences. I was always interested in um the ocean,
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  Speaker 1: and I was interested in space. I mean, what little
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  Speaker 1: kid hasn't said that they wanted to be an astronaut.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I wanted to be an astronaut for
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  Speaker 1: a while. And so the arts and performance wasn't really
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  Speaker 1: something that I paid attention to, but I did always
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  Speaker 1: for some reason, I was always drawn to you know,
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  Speaker 1: in like in Chicago where I grew up, we had
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  Speaker 1: this great public television channel wtt W, and they had theater.
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  Speaker 1: They would have plays and things on on on late
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  Speaker 1: nights on Sundays, and for some reason, that stuff sort
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  Speaker 1: of drew me, and I was just sort of always
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  Speaker 1: interested in it. But I thought I was going to
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  Speaker 1: be you know, off figuring out how the ocean works
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  Speaker 1: or you know, solar energy or something. And and then
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  Speaker 1: life took turns the way life does, and I found
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  Speaker 1: myself became an actor and found something that I also
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  Speaker 1: really loved to do, and so, um, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's just funny, how you know. Obviously life, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it can throw curves at you. And do you take
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  Speaker 1: lemons and make lemonade? I guess you know, well you've
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  Speaker 1: been making a punch, uh, strawberry sohlda, uh you know
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  Speaker 1: Ruby or floats you been? You know, let' let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about you know, when I first saw you, I first
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  Speaker 1: saw you. I guess I kind of saw you on
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  Speaker 1: two things. I saw you on spen City and then Arless.
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  Speaker 1: And those are really two different shows. One was the
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  Speaker 1: television and then one was cable which they could go
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  Speaker 1: edgy and go edgy. Okay, how were you able to
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  Speaker 1: balance those two different scripts, those two different writing styles?
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  Speaker 1: And but then here's the funny part about it. I said,
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  Speaker 1: I guess the compliment you did not you were not
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  Speaker 1: the same character on both shows. Yeah, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was funny. Those jobs came around almost actually strangely enough,
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  Speaker 1: on the same day. And Um I had auditions and
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  Speaker 1: met both of them. And this would have been in
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  Speaker 1: nine six now. And Carter Haywood, who was the character
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  Speaker 1: I played on Spin City, UM was an activist and
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  Speaker 1: you know, sort of a loud mouth and kind of
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  Speaker 1: a troublemaker. And UM Stanley who Stanley Batson, who was
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  Speaker 1: the uh, the money maker, the money man on for
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  Speaker 1: the artist. Michael's UM Sports agency firm, which was on
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  Speaker 1: our lists, was kind of stiff and conservative and and
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  Speaker 1: UM I just enjoyed both sort of trying to play
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  Speaker 1: sort of both extremes. You know, both of those characters
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  Speaker 1: kind of had their own kind of comic dignity as
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  Speaker 1: you as you sort of noted. But you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: always interested. I think most actors are interested in in
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  Speaker 1: kind of what makes people tick and the way people
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  Speaker 1: move and the way people speak. And so I always
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  Speaker 1: found I mean, you know, any actor sort of takes
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  Speaker 1: elements that he or she finds within himself or herself
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  Speaker 1: and tried to sort of magnify them, and so it
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  Speaker 1: was it was just fun. I mean, we fortunately um
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  Speaker 1: shot at different times of the year. So Spen City
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  Speaker 1: we would start in September in the fall, and Vision
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  Speaker 1: May late May, and that usually meant we I would
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  Speaker 1: start up, you know, I would finish spin City just
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  Speaker 1: in time to head out to l A. We shot
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  Speaker 1: Spen City in New York. We finished there, and I'd
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  Speaker 1: head out to l A and for three months spent
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  Speaker 1: three months in l A working on our list, And
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  Speaker 1: so I had a great amount of time to kind
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  Speaker 1: of you know, constantly sort of be thinking about both
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  Speaker 1: characters and kind of and of course, obviously the demands
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  Speaker 1: of every episode are different that you basically are the
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  Speaker 1: character of the script needs you to be that week.
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  Speaker 1: So um, but they always and any good writer, like
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  Speaker 1: any great, great writing staff that I've worked with on
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  Speaker 1: all the shows I've done, they they also see what
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  Speaker 1: the actor can do and what they're good at, and
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  Speaker 1: they sort of begin to write towards those strengths. And
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  Speaker 1: so I was very fortunate in both of those instants.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm just shouting out some of the big names,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but he's he's working to timar. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Sister Sister Harness one of my favorite human beings on
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  Speaker 1: the planet. Oh my god. I loved working with her
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  Speaker 1: on Instant Mom. She was just she's just she's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: She's just a fantastic person, just positive and just just
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  Speaker 1: a just a bright light at all times. As you know. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and I would throw another name that Cherry Shepherd another
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Ry Sherry, listen, that's a fun Sherry Shepherd
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  Speaker 1: and I we didn't know it at the time. We
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  Speaker 1: grew up on the same block in Chicago, on the
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  Speaker 1: South side of Chicago. Our grandmothers were actually very good friends.
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  Speaker 1: I knew Sherry's grandmother because she was Mrs Shepherd, the
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  Speaker 1: lady who used the front block club and would come
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  Speaker 1: around and you know, twice a year to collect for
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  Speaker 1: the block club and all that stuff. But and her
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  Speaker 1: grandchildren spent part of the year living with her. But
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  Speaker 1: we didn't know that because they were, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: Mrs Shepherd kind of lived on the end of our block.
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  Speaker 1: And because they they spent you know, I guess some
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  Speaker 1: part of the year, you know, with their parents. But
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  Speaker 1: in some strange somehow we missed each other and we
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. And when I worked with Sherry on her show,
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  Speaker 1: he told me, um that she grew up in Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: I said, no, you didn't read to you grew up
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago. She said, seventy six Carpenter, which was the
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  Speaker 1: street I grew up. And I said, it can't be
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  Speaker 1: seventy six and conferent. I grew up on seventy six
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  Speaker 1: and conferent And I didn't know you. I knew everybody
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  Speaker 1: on my block, you know. We we had that conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It turned out her grandmother had told her years after
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  Speaker 1: I had left, I'm a little older. Years after I
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  Speaker 1: had left. Oh, you gotta watch out when you get
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  Speaker 1: to Hollywood. There's a boy out there who grew up
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  Speaker 1: down the street. Well, what's his name? Grandma? She would say,
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  Speaker 1: And Mrs Shepherd said, I don't remember, but watch out
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  Speaker 1: for him. He lives down the street. So Sherry Sherry said,
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  Speaker 1: she went around for ten years trying to figure out right,
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  Speaker 1: and she just forgot all about it until we just
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  Speaker 1: happened to be sitting on the set one day eating lunch,
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  Speaker 1: and where'd you grow up? Chicago? On? Me too? Where
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  Speaker 1: south Side? Well too, We're on the south Side. And
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it was like she said, no
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  Speaker 1: and we we grew up on the same block. And
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  Speaker 1: Mark Michael hold that thought. We're gonna be back on
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  Speaker 1: another break to talk about your show, The Good Fight. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be back with more money making conversation with Michael Boatman. Cool, Um,
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  Speaker 1: you're back and listening to money making conversation. And guess
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  Speaker 1: who your host is? Rashwan McDonald on the phone is Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say from a visual standpoint, he's a
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  Speaker 1: good friend because I've been watching him, laughing with him,
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  Speaker 1: admiring the career he's put together over the years. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Born in our Colorado springs, raised in the mean streets
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  Speaker 1: of Chicago, and he's wars both coasts. Success on the
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  Speaker 1: East coast, success on the West coast. Uh. The resume
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  Speaker 1: that allows him to uh woman die out, loose to
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  Speaker 1: matter secretary. That's a resume to spend the city to
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  Speaker 1: his new show, The Good Fight. Welcome back to the show,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Boatman. Hello, Hello, Michael. Um. We're just laughing about
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  Speaker 1: these good people. And uh, I know you get interviewed
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  Speaker 1: a lot, and uh. The the cool thing about my
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  Speaker 1: show is that a lot of people that you know,
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  Speaker 1: I know, and so when I bring up their names,
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  Speaker 1: it's relationships that have allowed me to sustain a career.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about relationships that have helped you sustained your rather
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  Speaker 1: successful and lengthy career and still going on career. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting because relationships have been very critical in in
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  Speaker 1: in in ways that I think are kind of common sensical,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe people don't think about it. The one thing
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  Speaker 1: I have been able to observe in my time in
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood is that people like to work with people they like.
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  Speaker 1: They like to work with people with good, positive attitudes.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been very fortunate in that way. I've worked
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  Speaker 1: with a lot of folks who, you know, could be
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  Speaker 1: you know, Dick Divas or whatever, but mostly you know,
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  Speaker 1: Michael J. Fox, Charlie Sheen, you know, but the great, great,
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  Speaker 1: great folks to work with. Professional, you know, always ready
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  Speaker 1: to work when they're at work, and no bad attitudes,
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  Speaker 1: and and you'd be surprised at how a negative attitude
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  Speaker 1: or bad or you probably wouldn't be surprised actually, because
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm sure. But even in a place
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  Speaker 1: like in a place well even in a place like Hollywood,
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  Speaker 1: where you know, everybody sort of thinks about egos and
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  Speaker 1: and and the way that uh uh, you know, big
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  Speaker 1: stars can sort of be depicted as misbehaving or acting
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  Speaker 1: like uh tyrants or bullies or whatever. You know, people
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  Speaker 1: don't don't want to deal with that. In the old days,
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  Speaker 1: I guess it used to be sort of more permissible.
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  Speaker 1: But these days, I guess there's so much television, there's
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  Speaker 1: so many movies, there's so much out there that I
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  Speaker 1: think there's a kind of, uh like a process of
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  Speaker 1: filter that kind of you know, people get a bad,
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  Speaker 1: bad reputation, people don't want to deal with it. And
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  Speaker 1: so I find that and relationships ships that are good
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  Speaker 1: usually um tend to kind of come back around. The
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  Speaker 1: writer that you worked with on your first series could
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  Speaker 1: be an executive producer ten twelve years down the road,
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  Speaker 1: who goes, you know what, I like working with bothmen.
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  Speaker 1: He's a good guy. Let's see, you know. And that
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  Speaker 1: is that has happened for me many many times. And
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  Speaker 1: so you know, I've been very fortunate in that some
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  Speaker 1: of those relationships have come back in surprising ways. But
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  Speaker 1: you never you know, they say, have the same people
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  Speaker 1: you meet on the way up are the ones you
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  Speaker 1: meet up on the way back down. That is, there's
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  Speaker 1: no place truer than that than Hollywood. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's really interesting because I would like to tell people
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  Speaker 1: about relationships. I remember, I was a sitcom writer, and
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  Speaker 1: so I live to do the details, just stay on
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  Speaker 1: one sitcom, and but I decided to and I decided
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  Speaker 1: to go. I went from UH to the Parenthood, and
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  Speaker 1: I went to on Senior Hall, ABC sitcom, and I
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  Speaker 1: went to UH Sister Sister That which is Jamie Foxx
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  Speaker 1: with the Parkers, and then started developing on shows. And
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  Speaker 1: what happened to me was I made all these executive producers,
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  Speaker 1: I made all these directors, I made all these writers,
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  Speaker 1: and so they always and I was a hard worker,
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  Speaker 1: that's all he's saying. I created relationship. So if I
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  Speaker 1: needed a job, or needed a script, or was low
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  Speaker 1: on funs, I could call a friend who was a showrunner,
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  Speaker 1: said Hey, yeah, can I come in and write a script?
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  Speaker 1: And script will pay you like sixteen thou dollars. So
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  Speaker 1: writing the script, you write two or three of those scripts,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're forty eight sixty dollars depend on I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you get that's a nice little income just sitting around
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  Speaker 1: writing scripts. But that's based on relationships. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: I wanted people to understand that Michael, as talented as
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  Speaker 1: he is, he's smart enough to realize when I get
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  Speaker 1: on set, I don't have an attitude. They tell me
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  Speaker 1: to show up all time. I show up earlier than
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  Speaker 1: on time, and I'm there to win. I'm there to win,
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  Speaker 1: and that's really important. So am I am I correcting
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying that Michael, You're very correct, And I
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  Speaker 1: mean they can think because apart from also being you know,
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  Speaker 1: someone that people want to work with because they helped
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  Speaker 1: create a good work environment, you also got to be
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  Speaker 1: able to deliver the goods when it's time you know,
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  Speaker 1: because that also helps. It's not like, well, he's a
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  Speaker 1: nice guy, but he's you know, not very good. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to have discovered something that I
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  Speaker 1: really like to do and that I enjoy and in
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  Speaker 1: fact love doing. And so, you know, I studied. I
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  Speaker 1: went to Western Illinois University and but you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was a drama major there. And when I was in college,
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea about TV and film. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think anything about it. I was a theater person, and
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  Speaker 1: my plan at the time was that I was gonna,
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  Speaker 1: you know, graduate and do regional theater for a while
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  Speaker 1: and then go back and get my master's degree and teach.
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  Speaker 1: But then I got this film called Hamburger Hill, which
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  Speaker 1: was nineteen eighty who you were young and that one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you barely had a mustache in that one. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I had any facial air at that absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: but I had. I had hair on top of my head, yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: I remember remember that he would coming down on it, yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: And so you know, the one thing that I've always
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  Speaker 1: prided myself in in as an actor is trying to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, find opportunities to keep working even if it
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  Speaker 1: may not necessarily be a pay day, but it's always
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  Speaker 1: something that you're either creating a relationship, you're doing good
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  Speaker 1: work for someone, You're you're expanding your own abilities, you hope,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just sort of trying to keep
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  Speaker 1: yourself sharpened. So that's why I think also for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's been beneficial to be able to do to work
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  Speaker 1: in comedy and drama, you know, I mean sort of
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  Speaker 1: do both because back when I back when I started,
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  Speaker 1: you you were really only kind of allowed to do
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  Speaker 1: you know, you were a drama actor or you were
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  Speaker 1: a comedy actor, or you were a film actor, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And um, I've just been fortunate enough,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, and that I love comedy. I love doing comedy.
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  Speaker 1: My very first TV job though was China Beach, which
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  Speaker 1: was a drama absolutely, and that was, you know, way
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  Speaker 1: back in the eighties. And so I think being versatile
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  Speaker 1: and being able to sort of be flexible with the versatile.
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  Speaker 1: But but I want to say, there's ageless though. You
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  Speaker 1: look good. You look good now, you know, you look good,
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  Speaker 1: and and and that's that looks like good, you know
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  Speaker 1: what they say? I know, but they we all some people.
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  Speaker 1: Some of they say that, but there's some of us
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  Speaker 1: out there cracking though, were cracking. Yeah, I know they
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  Speaker 1: need to stop they need to stop that live Michael.
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  Speaker 1: They need to stop that live. Yeah. You're right, you
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  Speaker 1: look good and God has blessed you, my friend. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but before we get off there, I want I'll be remissed.
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  Speaker 1: It started the third season in March of The Good Fight.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about that show and what can we respect
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  Speaker 1: and what do you like about the character? Well, you know, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I started playing this character, Julius Kane on The
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  Speaker 1: Good Wife. I was there over over the course of
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  Speaker 1: nine seasons. I showed up. You know, I wasn't a regular.
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  Speaker 1: I was a recurring character. So I came in when
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  Speaker 1: they needed me. And he was kind of a mystery
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  Speaker 1: and and and which I like, you never really kind
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  Speaker 1: of knew where he was going to come from. So
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  Speaker 1: if he had to be a hatchet man for one episode,
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  Speaker 1: he was a hatchet man. If he was the guy
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  Speaker 1: that needed to smooth something over, he was that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Then they spun off A Good Wife for CBS All Access,
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  Speaker 1: which is the channel we're on, the streaming service we're
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  Speaker 1: on now, which is the great Christine Baranski who plays
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  Speaker 1: Diane Diane Lockhart, who was working at an all African
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  Speaker 1: American firm law firm in Chicago, and um, so they
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  Speaker 1: Julius Kane um is now the managing partner at this
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  Speaker 1: law firm. And uh, people, you're your fan. Your audience
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  Speaker 1: may be a little surprised to hear, and I was
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  Speaker 1: surprised to learn, but Julius is revealed to be a
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  Speaker 1: Trump supporter in the first of I Love Heard, I heard,
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  Speaker 1: I had you heard. I had to. I had to
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  Speaker 1: lay the groundwork for that because they when he told
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  Speaker 1: me that, when they told me they were thinking about it,
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  Speaker 1: I said, he the one that Okay, well I told you,
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  Speaker 1: I told you a good acting that I oh, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, man, you don't even understand the challenges. But
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  Speaker 1: listen what it what it's done has helped me to
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  Speaker 1: be a little more patient and listening to people who
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  Speaker 1: who express ideas which I may vehemently disagree, because obviously
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  Speaker 1: it's a character who was around before they decided what
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  Speaker 1: his politics were. So that's sort of became, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a whole new area to explore. And and so he's
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  Speaker 1: the only conservative in in this liberal African American law firm,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously there's a lot of conflict, but it's fun
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  Speaker 1: and they play it for for I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: situation is, you know, there's there's a lot of comedy
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was saying, great job, that's your gift.
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  Speaker 1: Did Your gift is the ability to to to take
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  Speaker 1: these white color roles and squeeze natural comedy out of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know. And sometimes and I would tell you this
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  Speaker 1: But you you your ability to have a career to
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's amazing. And I'm I'm I just want
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say that, thank you for this journey of
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  Speaker 1: Thank you that very much. Again. He's on my show
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