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- 2:21Speaker 1: my Guest is a graduate of the University of Alabama
- 2:24Speaker 1: with a degree in psychology. She's an actress a singer
- 2:28Speaker 1: who's credits include television, stage and VOS over work. She's
- 2:32Speaker 1: currently starting in one of my favorite series on BT,
- 2:36Speaker 1: Tyler Perry's The Oval, which airs every Wednesday on BT,
- 2:40Speaker 1: Like I stated, and she's also starting in another series
- 2:43Speaker 1: that I've fallen in love. It's a sci fi series
- 2:45Speaker 1: from the d C universe called d C Stargirl, which
- 2:49Speaker 1: airs every Tuesday on the c W. Please welcome to
- 2:52Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Karen More. Hello, thank you, yes, great,
- 3:00Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. First of all,
- 3:02Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time to call him out.
- 3:04Speaker 1: You know, when you watch a character, Let's let's go
- 3:06Speaker 1: back to the very first episode. Okay, in a fight,
- 3:13Speaker 1: got gott take a breathta take here, gotta take breath here,
- 3:16Speaker 1: let's more, I gotta take bro, you know, drag out
- 3:20Speaker 1: physical fight with the President of the United States. Let's
- 3:25Speaker 1: hold that thought. Hold that thought. Then let's go back
- 3:29Speaker 1: to you getting the script, okay from Tyler Perry, who
- 3:33Speaker 1: all knows a genius. Let's go and admit that publicly.
- 3:36Speaker 1: If you don't know what I'm telling you, he's a genius.
- 3:39Speaker 1: What were your thoughts, you know, President, you know Michelle
- 3:42Speaker 1: Obama coming out of the White House and you playing
- 3:45Speaker 1: this over exaggerated character of an African American female entering
- 3:50Speaker 1: the White House in a dramatic series. What were your thoughts?
- 3:55Speaker 1: When I first got the side for the audition, I
- 3:59Speaker 1: was is horrified because I thought to myself, how could
- 4:05Speaker 1: I possibly I'm an actress and I'm just like, I
- 4:08Speaker 1: don't know how I can pull this off. This character
- 4:11Speaker 1: is so opposite my personality. I'm just like, Wow, what
- 4:15Speaker 1: what do I have or what can I pull from
- 4:19Speaker 1: to bring this character to life? Um, And so I
- 4:23Speaker 1: thought at the challenge and uh, in that first chool,
- 4:28Speaker 1: I didn't know how the audience would really stun but
- 4:32Speaker 1: it was shocked. Value. I mean, that's the first scene
- 4:34Speaker 1: of the series and what like what like a casual
- 4:40Speaker 1: slap slap no, no, no, this was a knockdown, drag
- 4:45Speaker 1: drag out beat down like the entire hotel room. And
- 4:52Speaker 1: um yeah I was. I was afraid going into it.
- 4:54Speaker 1: But once we started rolling, oh my gosh, we had
- 4:57Speaker 1: so much fun. Okay, now now you said this is
- 5:01Speaker 1: this character is not like your personality? What is your personality?
- 5:04Speaker 1: It's more honestly, I've always been py um. So I
- 5:10Speaker 1: think I've come out of my sinus a little bit book,
- 5:12Speaker 1: but I'm kind of an introvert. Um. I will say
- 5:16Speaker 1: that the character is strong, and I think I have
- 5:17Speaker 1: a strong I have strong views, and I have a
- 5:19Speaker 1: strong personality. But I am yes, but I'm not. I'm
- 5:24Speaker 1: not overt like so I'm not over and over selfish, Uh, domineering, Uh, sexist, uh,
- 5:36Speaker 1: child abuser uh liar Uh going and going a dressing
- 5:42Speaker 1: shop and beat the heck out of your husband's mistress, uh,
- 5:47Speaker 1: taste your daughter. Uh come on now, it's a lot
- 5:50Speaker 1: of qualities issue. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm Benny the
- 5:55Speaker 1: best things in my real life. I want people and
- 5:59Speaker 1: you know they're just like you. It doesn't um come caring. Now,
- 6:05Speaker 1: here's the funny thing about it is that we're gonna
- 6:07Speaker 1: have a good time with it. Were already having a
- 6:09Speaker 1: good time. I'm talking to one of the stars of
- 6:11Speaker 1: the Oval. She plays uh the first League first lay Lady.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Victoria's the name correct that word lading. Her husband's name
- 6:20Speaker 1: is Hunter. Now, as the story as the series evolved,
- 6:25Speaker 1: you know, you're starting to get a little bit the
- 6:27Speaker 1: pieces about the background of your family and how he
- 6:31Speaker 1: got there. But let's go to the beginning of the
- 6:33Speaker 1: series here, because first of all, you want to say, Rashan,
- 6:36Speaker 1: how successful this has. Has the reaction to this series
- 6:39Speaker 1: been okay? First of all, it's been renewed for a
- 6:41Speaker 1: second season, which we all know in the acting game
- 6:44Speaker 1: is a blessing. Come on that because you started like
- 6:48Speaker 1: preparing life a little bit okay, you know, because people
- 6:54Speaker 1: don't the stand and you're in the acting game. It's
- 6:57Speaker 1: like it's almost like check to check. You can't you
- 6:59Speaker 1: can't buy a car, you might not make the notes
- 7:02Speaker 1: because you don't know if you're gonna get a job.
- 7:04Speaker 1: It's really came about how it really starts. You really
- 7:07Speaker 1: have to be a person that's really patient and also
- 7:10Speaker 1: and just really just have strong faith and also have
- 7:14Speaker 1: a good, good people around you that a support system. Now,
- 7:17Speaker 1: the original series has been a hit for b et.
- 7:20Speaker 1: We're talking about The Oval some highlights. Is now in
- 7:23Speaker 1: the first half of this debate season number one new
- 7:26Speaker 1: scripted series on cable for all audiences eighteen to forty nine,
- 7:31Speaker 1: Number one in both broadcasting cable for African Americans eighteen
- 7:35Speaker 1: the forty nine, which is an incredible number cover number. Now,
- 7:43Speaker 1: you know, when the series came out, I didn't know.
- 7:46Speaker 1: I wasn't watching it in the beginning. So I had
- 7:48Speaker 1: to bend drop because people couldshan because they always know
- 7:51Speaker 1: I like watch. I watched a lot that would tell
- 7:52Speaker 1: me how do you manage to watch some of TV
- 7:54Speaker 1: and read some of the books When I get a
- 7:56Speaker 1: good series like this though, that's that every every episode
- 8:03Speaker 1: is like really really, So I'm a back off a
- 8:06Speaker 1: little bit. Here, tell us about just let's let's tell
- 8:09Speaker 1: about tell about tell everybody about the family dynamics of
- 8:12Speaker 1: the Oval Office. If you miss anything, I'm I'm a Phelian. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Well,
- 8:17Speaker 1: the Oval overall is it's people like to compare it
- 8:20Speaker 1: to just Initially they like to compare it to Scandal,
- 8:23Speaker 1: but it is that it isn't a political sell. Oh no,
- 8:26Speaker 1: it's not political. Oh no, it's not not at all.
- 8:29Speaker 1: No about it's all about relationships and the drama within.
- 8:36Speaker 1: So it addresses the upstairs, downstairs thing that goes on
- 8:40Speaker 1: in the White House where you have the first family,
- 8:44Speaker 1: and we pulled back the curtain on this family who's
- 8:46Speaker 1: been placed in the White House by the powers that be,
- 8:51Speaker 1: and all of their dysfunction is completely uncovered. And then
- 8:55Speaker 1: we find the White House staff home and they have
- 8:58Speaker 1: a whole other at a drama while dealing with the
- 9:01Speaker 1: drama in the White House, which is a lot to
- 9:05Speaker 1: handle for anybody at work. And then they go home
- 9:07Speaker 1: and deal with their own personal things. So there's drama
- 9:10Speaker 1: on both sides of it. Now she's left out so
- 9:13Speaker 1: much good stuff. Okay, the daughter, the daughter who was
- 9:18Speaker 1: sleeping with the drug dealer, right, and then your boy
- 9:23Speaker 1: good please described everybody. What is what? What is your
- 9:26Speaker 1: son Jason? What is his character? What? What is he?
- 9:30Speaker 1: He could keep hopping he's a pervert in the series,
- 9:32Speaker 1: what what what? What? What is it? I've heard that
- 9:35Speaker 1: word throwing out a lot in the series. He's a pervert.
- 9:37Speaker 1: He's a pervert. What exactly is Jason's character in The Oval. Okay, Jason,
- 9:44Speaker 1: who has played by Daniel Corey Henderson, and he's like
- 9:46Speaker 1: a wonderful actor. He's nothing like this. By the way,
- 9:49Speaker 1: he is nick he's saying naked most of the time
- 9:53Speaker 1: in the series. By the way, y'all just let y'all
- 9:54Speaker 1: know about that, he's all the way naked. He's naked
- 9:58Speaker 1: and most and he's disturbed. But here's this thing about
- 10:03Speaker 1: the kids. Um, people don't understand. They hate They don't
- 10:08Speaker 1: hate me, they hate me and and they kind of
- 10:11Speaker 1: hate Hunter too. Because what we've done is we brought
- 10:15Speaker 1: them through the Mayor's office, as govern his office and
- 10:17Speaker 1: now the White House. So these children have been brought
- 10:20Speaker 1: up in a bubble and have had their lives, you know,
- 10:23Speaker 1: under a microscope, and so protected from a normal life
- 10:28Speaker 1: that they act out in ways that's probably other other
- 10:31Speaker 1: children wouldn't, but they asked out. Um, they act all
- 10:36Speaker 1: the way out, all the way. So they're they're just
- 10:38Speaker 1: they're yeah, they're disturbing. Jason is in him, He's got
- 10:42Speaker 1: a lot of he's got a lot of issues that
- 10:44Speaker 1: will be uncovered as the season goes. Um, I don't
- 10:48Speaker 1: want to get too much away. There were there were
- 10:52Speaker 1: more what we're gonna talk about, we'll cover enough to
- 10:56Speaker 1: make you want to watch the rest of the seas
- 10:57Speaker 1: Like I just tell you number one. Note you number
- 10:59Speaker 1: one for a reach and not eighteen fortnight because you
- 11:02Speaker 1: got your boy, your boy and seen it at all. Now,
- 11:05Speaker 1: see this is see the great thing about the lady
- 11:08Speaker 1: Victoria character, which is the first lady, and then Hunter
- 11:11Speaker 1: he's the president. Then Jason and Sophia they're they're their kids,
- 11:15Speaker 1: outrageous kids. Then, like she said, it's more even juicier
- 11:19Speaker 1: storylines when you get to poll Nancy, Richard and crazy Barry.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Crazy Barry does he have emotional Barry is the son
- 11:29Speaker 1: of Nancy and Richard, and he came by the White
- 11:33Speaker 1: House one day to help out, and all hell broke
- 11:35Speaker 1: loose because he got in the room with Sophia, and
- 11:37Speaker 1: Sophia says something later on Gail Gail, Yeah, it was
- 11:43Speaker 1: girl like Paola. Gail and Jason correct so many series
- 11:47Speaker 1: in my head, Gail and Jason are the character. They
- 11:49Speaker 1: are your children. So Gail got in the room with Barry,
- 11:52Speaker 1: and then she made the story by Barry, and then
- 11:54Speaker 1: it just calls j Richard to lose his job, and
- 11:57Speaker 1: but the storyline didn't stop after that. These story lines
- 12:01Speaker 1: are just so so outrageously juicy that they make you
- 12:06Speaker 1: want to see more. Correct they are they are, and
- 12:09Speaker 1: they're so so twisted and intertwined. It's it's really interesting
- 12:13Speaker 1: to see them unsold and see how the White House
- 12:17Speaker 1: staff and their families um are a part of the
- 12:22Speaker 1: actual family of the White the first family. It's really
- 12:25Speaker 1: interesting to see how they're connected and in ways that
- 12:28Speaker 1: you wouldn't think they would be. But yeah, my daughter Gail, yes,
- 12:32Speaker 1: she had a relationship. Her boyfriend was a drug dealer,
- 12:36Speaker 1: is the cousin of Barry, who was the son of
- 12:40Speaker 1: our butler, who was fired because Gail accused him of
- 12:45Speaker 1: rape when he was, like you said, helping out. And
- 12:48Speaker 1: then you had the Then you then you had to
- 12:51Speaker 1: change your dought. I had to. Lady Victoria had went
- 12:58Speaker 1: as far as she can go, but she tasted the
- 13:01Speaker 1: daughter to see if it worked. That's what That's what
- 13:03Speaker 1: I loved about. You taste your daughter to see if
- 13:05Speaker 1: it could work. And then but that's your story. Now,
- 13:09Speaker 1: if you got some extra juice, what you left out,
- 13:13Speaker 1: what you left out before before Victoria tastes sale, Gail
- 13:19Speaker 1: jumped from the moving car on the way to these
- 13:25Speaker 1: and when we got to the White House, Yeah, found
- 13:29Speaker 1: it necessary that. Oh my good. You know we were
- 13:32Speaker 1: about to break here and we haven't gotten to yet too,
- 13:35Speaker 1: d C Star Girl, I want to get to that.
- 13:38Speaker 1: It's a couple of more questions I got to ask
- 13:39Speaker 1: you the next break because it's just can I say congratulations?
- 13:44Speaker 1: You want an amazingly entertaining, juicy soap operative soap opera
- 13:50Speaker 1: format that uh, it is funny, is sexy, is over
- 13:55Speaker 1: the top? And your character, like I said, you know
- 13:58Speaker 1: when you made a pass it poor Sam, he didn't
- 14:00Speaker 1: know what to do. That's about the third guy in
- 14:04Speaker 1: this series. You made a really strong pass up. The
- 14:08Speaker 1: little white guy turned you down earlier in the season.
- 14:11Speaker 1: You're just a but but then but then you always
- 14:13Speaker 1: making like you were really talking to them, just kind
- 14:18Speaker 1: of talking past. But I want to wrap up a
- 14:22Speaker 1: few more questions about the oval uh uh Salmon Priscilla character.
- 14:27Speaker 1: You know, Sam, he worked security at the d C
- 14:30Speaker 1: h at the White House and you made a pass
- 14:32Speaker 1: in him, or that they seemed to be the most
- 14:34Speaker 1: stable characters on the show. Unless unless I missed something.
- 14:38Speaker 1: I usually called every episode. But Sam and Priscilla seemed
- 14:42Speaker 1: to be the most stable characters on the show. I
- 14:45Speaker 1: thought Nancy and Richard was, but they both of them
- 14:48Speaker 1: crazy too. But what about Sam and Priscilla? Sam, and
- 14:53Speaker 1: I would venture to say that they do have the
- 14:55Speaker 1: most stable relationship so far. They have the most stareful
- 15:04Speaker 1: relationship thus far, you know, but there is a whole mess,
- 15:08Speaker 1: and she has a way of working her way into
- 15:12Speaker 1: people's lives and causing causing trouble. Yes, okay, now let's
- 15:18Speaker 1: here's an interesting backstory, because I finally at your grandmother, okay,
- 15:22Speaker 1: and it seems to me that your family, your family
- 15:26Speaker 1: in particular, okay, sent your way. You know, they got money, okay,
- 15:31Speaker 1: and they got influence, and so, like Hunter said, you know,
- 15:34Speaker 1: they shocked me when I became mayor. Then they shocked
- 15:37Speaker 1: me when I became governor. And now I am the
- 15:40Speaker 1: President of the United States. And I don't I didn't
- 15:41Speaker 1: ask for any of this, And so what what what
- 15:45Speaker 1: what was your role in all of this? Your characters role?
- 15:47Speaker 1: Were you along for the ride or you just afraid
- 15:51Speaker 1: to make a uh say no because of who your
- 15:53Speaker 1: parents were you know a little bit of both, because
- 15:58Speaker 1: Victoria is about the business of money, right, but she
- 16:02Speaker 1: had she had a sumultuous childhood where her her her family.
- 16:05Speaker 1: She felt as though her family didn't love her. She
- 16:07Speaker 1: was a blessing of the family, and there is pun
- 16:10Speaker 1: intended there. Um and her her parents are they're they're powerful.
- 16:16Speaker 1: They're one of the top five families in the country.
- 16:18Speaker 1: They run the country. So they sent her away when
- 16:20Speaker 1: she was a child, and Um, she's always felt like
- 16:24Speaker 1: she was under their control, but she never felt their acceptance.
- 16:28Speaker 1: So in trying to trying to be accepted by her family,
- 16:32Speaker 1: she's left herself onto this man who they found to
- 16:36Speaker 1: be Um kind of like a catalyst, you know, to
- 16:40Speaker 1: to to place their influence into the White House and
- 16:45Speaker 1: and and its apologies and procedures. And so Victoria is
- 16:47Speaker 1: along for that ride, but she's really trying to get
- 16:50Speaker 1: off the roller coaster, you know, honestly, she she she's
- 16:53Speaker 1: done everything that she can and now it's she wants
- 16:58Speaker 1: his money and she wants out. You want to talk,
- 17:01Speaker 1: but then you have then you have Donald's character and
- 17:04Speaker 1: Coyle's character their lovers. Okay, but it seems to me
- 17:09Speaker 1: now they've been with you guys a long time, because
- 17:11Speaker 1: the storylines seem to talk about they know about the family,
- 17:14Speaker 1: your family, and they know what they can do. So
- 17:18Speaker 1: give me a little backstory on them, if you can.
- 17:20Speaker 1: Just being nosy now and just being nosy, Well, their
- 17:24Speaker 1: story is currently unfolding. So um yeah, so so Donald,
- 17:30Speaker 1: I don't know how unfolding. It could be the man
- 17:32Speaker 1: with naked in his bed, buck naked in his and
- 17:36Speaker 1: then I got to see you got to see the
- 17:38Speaker 1: brother got to see his butt in the hotel room. Okay,
- 17:41Speaker 1: when when Lily showed up and told the girl that
- 17:44Speaker 1: told the girl to get the heck out? Okay, so so,
- 17:47Speaker 1: but but I digress. I digress later, Victoria, please continue.
- 17:55Speaker 1: So she's from Staff and he has been a White
- 18:02Speaker 1: House namestaate, but he's relatively new too, um Hunter's wife.
- 18:06Speaker 1: But what Hunter doesn't know is that Donald is somehow
- 18:10Speaker 1: connected to one of these five families. I can't say
- 18:12Speaker 1: whether it's you know, our family or not, but he's
- 18:15Speaker 1: connected to one of these thy family who's puppeteering, you know,
- 18:19Speaker 1: the people in the White House. And so he's got
- 18:21Speaker 1: to stay in line. That's why he needs to stay
- 18:23Speaker 1: Mary to Lily for the optics of it. But he
- 18:26Speaker 1: has Kyle as his look right right that that that
- 18:30Speaker 1: that that was previous lovers. Then the Kyle cheated on him, Okay,
- 18:35Speaker 1: then they broke up. And then when he broke up,
- 18:38Speaker 1: that's when she found found Lily from watchs She's from
- 18:41Speaker 1: watch the Community or don't know? She said, boy, you
- 18:45Speaker 1: do watch this series, don't you? And and so, but
- 18:49Speaker 1: I got to go back to the biggest food in
- 18:51Speaker 1: the show. I got to go back to before we
- 18:53Speaker 1: move on Barry. Oh god, Okay, before I go to Barry,
- 19:00Speaker 1: I want to just compliment Tyler Perry on this sets
- 19:04Speaker 1: in this series. I have not been to his campound.
- 19:06Speaker 1: I'm based in Atlanta, but the sets you're based here, Yes,
- 19:11Speaker 1: the sets are amazing. The sets are amazing. Listen. What
- 19:16Speaker 1: he did was he built a white house almost to
- 19:19Speaker 1: scale on his campus. It only took a couple of
- 19:21Speaker 1: months to do. We watched it be erected as we
- 19:24Speaker 1: were preparing for the show, and it is amazing. As
- 19:29Speaker 1: an understatement, whenever everything calms down and we're going to
- 19:33Speaker 1: get back to normal, I encourage you to come to
- 19:35Speaker 1: the campus and tour it. It is phenomenal. I'm looking
- 19:39Speaker 1: at it. You know, I've been fortunate. Guy. I was
- 19:42Speaker 1: in the Oval Office, I met President Obama, so I
- 19:46Speaker 1: know walking down that hallway, I know, going in that room,
- 19:48Speaker 1: I know exactly. You know how this stuff lays out.
- 19:51Speaker 1: I want. They gave me a complete tour of the
- 19:53Speaker 1: White House. So when I'm going room, when you guys
- 19:55Speaker 1: are going room in the room and going that's a
- 19:57Speaker 1: authentic That's what authentic. That's legitimate because you was like,
- 20:00Speaker 1: once you go on something you know you're only gonna
- 20:02Speaker 1: adventure into once in your lifetime. You kind of like
- 20:04Speaker 1: making snapshots so you can remember the experience because they
- 20:08Speaker 1: won't let you take photos. They won't let you take photos,
- 20:10Speaker 1: and so the photos they take of you, as a
- 20:12Speaker 1: professional photo photographer didn't have to screen the photos, and
- 20:16Speaker 1: they eventually was sending the photos to you are the
- 20:18Speaker 1: ones they took of you, taking taking of you while
- 20:21Speaker 1: you were at the White House. But when I when
- 20:23Speaker 1: I look at Barry's character, another over the top character,
- 20:27Speaker 1: that's funny and uh that that that that can you
- 20:31Speaker 1: explain to me? How could we say stupider or dumber
- 20:36Speaker 1: or how many bad decisions can you make? In one season.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Let's just say poor decisions. But he was he started
- 20:45Speaker 1: off at this advantage because this poor child was auge
- 20:49Speaker 1: over rage. Okay, and he didn't do it. But then
- 20:52Speaker 1: you know, he used to be involved with this, uh,
- 20:56Speaker 1: this woman who's going to call and they had a
- 20:59Speaker 1: child together. She comes in with her cult members and
- 21:03Speaker 1: kidnaps his kid, and so he's looking for his kid
- 21:06Speaker 1: and he goes into you know, neighborhood shouldn't be at
- 21:09Speaker 1: a part of Oh my god, and we forgot that.
- 21:14Speaker 1: I forgot the fact that the Gail got you know,
- 21:17Speaker 1: got taken around the corner about five dudes. I forgot
- 21:20Speaker 1: about that little storyline you know that was you know,
- 21:26Speaker 1: Gail snuck out of that white house to be with
- 21:30Speaker 1: her dealer boyfriend and in the in the course of it, yeah,
- 21:35Speaker 1: he was almost read by some gang members and Sir
- 21:38Speaker 1: Richard happened to be in the area and picked her up.
- 21:41Speaker 1: And it's a whole drummer. But but you know, before
- 21:46Speaker 1: I move on to d C Star Girl, Bobby, Now,
- 21:50Speaker 1: what is Bobby is he comes some kind under He
- 21:53Speaker 1: plays like he hasn't he knows some people who are
- 21:58Speaker 1: trying to get dirt on some more dirt. What is
- 22:01Speaker 1: Bobby's roll? I know he's having an affair with Lily,
- 22:04Speaker 1: and Lily you know she went to him at the
- 22:07Speaker 1: that the Big John in with the I got God,
- 22:18Speaker 1: this story's crappy. Oh my gosh, core Bobby, Bobby, Bobby,
- 22:26Speaker 1: he was an insider at one point, and it's not
- 22:29Speaker 1: been real, Lady Victoria, a sexy insider because I've yet
- 22:35Speaker 1: to see him with his clothes on. Uh, the scene
- 22:40Speaker 1: may start with his clothes on, but the brother gonna
- 22:44Speaker 1: be out of his clothes really quick in that scene.
- 22:46Speaker 1: You know that, right. I know his tattoos, I know
- 22:51Speaker 1: the dimples in his but I know the muscles on
- 22:54Speaker 1: his shoulder. I could count the lot apps on his stomach.
- 22:58Speaker 1: The little and this man don't keep his clothes on
- 23:01Speaker 1: long at all. It makes me feel really bad when
- 23:03Speaker 1: I watching him though he looks. Don't feel about listed.
- 23:06Speaker 1: I mean, it's to have a body like that a
- 23:08Speaker 1: lot like Why finished with your description of this fool, Bobby.
- 23:15Speaker 1: I just had a break in and just tell y'all
- 23:17Speaker 1: what I see. No, Bob. Yeah, Bobby is definitely the
- 23:21Speaker 1: sexual chocolate of the show, and he really was. Yeah,
- 23:27Speaker 1: he's an insider, and he hadn't yet revealed it's exactly
- 23:31Speaker 1: his relationship. But he's an insider, and he knows a
- 23:34Speaker 1: lot about what's going on in the White House and
- 23:36Speaker 1: a lot about the family that's controlling what's going on
- 23:39Speaker 1: in the White House, and so he's trying to tell
- 23:41Speaker 1: really literally you and danger Girl. So's he's he's let's
- 23:45Speaker 1: have sex first. Let's let's get Yeah, let's get let's
- 23:49Speaker 1: get down first, and then I need you to go
- 23:52Speaker 1: back to take sure of the business. Right, Oh my god,
- 23:56Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, cool, um, let's go on to
- 24:00Speaker 1: this next fantasticist. Because you know TV every Wednesday and
- 24:03Speaker 1: your TV which is on the b Et every Wednesday
- 24:06Speaker 1: with the Oval, now every Tuesday, we can catch you
- 24:09Speaker 1: on an exciting new sci fi series called DC star Girl,
- 24:13Speaker 1: and you play an extremely different character. You're a doctor
- 24:18Speaker 1: little nerd ish type doctor ish uh, the daughter to
- 24:23Speaker 1: one of the characters I believe that's eventually going to
- 24:26Speaker 1: become one of her sidekicks. I'm talking about Stargirls sidekick.
- 24:29Speaker 1: Tell us about that character and the opportunity it brings
- 24:31Speaker 1: to just show your acting range. Well, HC Star Girl,
- 24:36Speaker 1: like like you said, I play a character. Her name
- 24:39Speaker 1: is Dr Chapel, and she is she's a medical doctor,
- 24:42Speaker 1: and she's brilliant and she is a completely buttoned up nerd,
- 24:47Speaker 1: that's what she is. And um, she's unaware of what's
- 24:51Speaker 1: about to unfold in her daughter's life. But yeah, her daughter,
- 24:54Speaker 1: it's Sandersville. But well we'll find out this come this Tuesday,
- 24:58Speaker 1: what happens. But she may be one of the recruits,
- 25:02Speaker 1: um star girl, to join the the new Justice League.
- 25:08Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's fun playing her. She's completely opposite Victoria. Um,
- 25:14Speaker 1: she's still intelligent and polished, but on the complete opposite
- 25:18Speaker 1: end of the spectrum. You know, her hair is natural,
- 25:20Speaker 1: you know, she's understated, buttoned up. It's fun. Well, it's
- 25:25Speaker 1: first of all, your your life that you're living right now.
- 25:29Speaker 1: Congratulations on the Oval on bt B renewed for a
- 25:32Speaker 1: second season. Congratulate because we know what that's a blessing.
- 25:35Speaker 1: And then to be on television in a totally opposite
- 25:38Speaker 1: role in the mainstream show, that's what Starker this is.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Stark is a mainstream show. And and then and may
- 25:45Speaker 1: be accepted in that role and having fun at and
- 25:47Speaker 1: being nerdy ish and being able to look authentic in
- 25:52Speaker 1: that in that role, and I was, you know, it
- 25:54Speaker 1: was kind of you know, because I was I watched
- 25:55Speaker 1: a series and so I was kind of like, oh,
- 25:57Speaker 1: I wish I could interview her right after two because
- 26:00Speaker 1: that would be more juicy stuff to talk about. But really,
- 26:03Speaker 1: but really, this Oval, I took up the whole show.
- 26:06Speaker 1: That's how amazing that is. So that what that means
- 26:09Speaker 1: is that you gotta come back on my show if
- 26:10Speaker 1: you don't mind. I really loved interviews. You're funny, you're entertaining,
- 26:16Speaker 1: you're beautiful, you're smart. Uh, please don't stop being you
- 26:20Speaker 1: and uh again, I can't wait till the season finale.
- 26:23Speaker 1: But I'm just dropped this little dam on you because
- 26:25Speaker 1: everybody keeps saying there's an insider, there's an inside somebody,
- 26:29Speaker 1: there's a leak in the White House. There's a leak
- 26:30Speaker 1: in the White House. You know who I think it is?
- 26:34Speaker 1: Who do you think, Jason? You think it's yes, m Well,
- 26:40Speaker 1: let's keep well, we'll see stay tuned and every Wednesday,
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- 26:53Speaker 1: dashing members of the White House who it's not about
- 26:56Speaker 1: changing America, it's about holding that white house together because
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- 29:21Speaker 1: E R dot Ai. My next guests left Wall Street
- 29:24Speaker 1: to keep up with the demand of a company where
- 29:27Speaker 1: she is the founder and CEO of The lip Bar,
- 29:30Speaker 1: a vegan beauty brand that exists to disrupt an outdated
- 29:33Speaker 1: beauty care industry. Please welcome to money making Conversation. The
- 29:37Speaker 1: CEO of the lip Bar, Melissa Butler. Thank you so
- 29:42Speaker 1: much for having me. That was such a warm intro
- 29:45Speaker 1: that we're warm, but but you're in Detroit, right Betray
- 29:50Speaker 1: the weather up there in Detroit. It's finally gotten nicer.
- 29:56Speaker 1: Crazy may may A may A was snowing. I gotta
- 30:02Speaker 1: get out of here, That's what I'm asking you'll. You
- 30:04Speaker 1: know I lived. I was like, I'm in the wrong place. Well,
- 30:08Speaker 1: first of all, used in New York doing working at
- 30:10Speaker 1: Wall Street. Correct, when I graduated, Yeah, I went to college.
- 30:18Speaker 1: I went to college at fam you a Ka, Florida
- 30:22Speaker 1: and m Universal when I was there exactly exactly, And
- 30:29Speaker 1: so I studied business finance. And I decided that in
- 30:35Speaker 1: college that if you're going to do finance, that you know,
- 30:38Speaker 1: there's no better place to do it than than in
- 30:40Speaker 1: New York. So I moved to New York. Was working
- 30:43Speaker 1: on Wall Street for about four years excuse me, and
- 30:47Speaker 1: the year too I quit my job. I quit my
- 30:51Speaker 1: job to focus on the lip bar Um, this cosmetic
- 30:55Speaker 1: company that I just felt super inspired and empowered to
- 30:59Speaker 1: start because I wanted to stop complaining about the industry
- 31:03Speaker 1: and instead of be the changes, we just stop complaining
- 31:08Speaker 1: about an industry. What do you mean? What what were
- 31:10Speaker 1: the complaints about the industry? So yeah, I started the
- 31:14Speaker 1: lit bar because I was completely frustrated with the beauty industry.
- 31:17Speaker 1: I hated it's lack of diversity, its excessive amounts the chemicals, um,
- 31:23Speaker 1: just this idea that that beauty looks like one particular
- 31:27Speaker 1: thing and like in one way. So I found, you know,
- 31:31Speaker 1: of a country full of women black and white that
- 31:34Speaker 1: was trying to fit into this very small beauty box
- 31:38Speaker 1: of like what's considered socially and societally accepted as beautiful.
- 31:43Speaker 1: And I was like, no, like, why are we all
- 31:46Speaker 1: trying to conform to be something that we're not in
- 31:50Speaker 1: terms of like that that beauty image. And it's like
- 31:53Speaker 1: I felt like we had been taught that you can
- 31:55Speaker 1: only be one thing in order to be beautiful. And
- 31:58Speaker 1: it's always been then my my understanding that everyone has baby,
- 32:04Speaker 1: you know, and everyone is beautiful. But the conditioning of
- 32:08Speaker 1: the media and the beauty companies, you know, it consistently
- 32:11Speaker 1: told this story in this linear LFE and so that
- 32:14Speaker 1: was my frustration. I hated that people were made to
- 32:17Speaker 1: feel like they were not enough, and so I decided
- 32:20Speaker 1: to create the lip far to remind women that they
- 32:23Speaker 1: don't have to transform and be beautiful. They're already beautiful. Okay,
- 32:27Speaker 1: now you degree was it? What? Now? Business finance? Okay,
- 32:31Speaker 1: business finance. And so I'm just reading your bio, so
- 32:34Speaker 1: you will created the formula or you mixed it, or
- 32:39Speaker 1: you made the brand or the lip bar in your
- 32:42Speaker 1: Brooklyn kitchen. To my understand that I've read that wrong. Yeah,
- 32:46Speaker 1: you know, you read it right. So I did not
- 32:49Speaker 1: have experience in the chemistry. I was working on Wall Street,
- 32:54Speaker 1: like looking at stocks and bombs and still spreadsheets all day. Um,
- 32:59Speaker 1: but that's what happens when you when you're operating in
- 33:02Speaker 1: purpose and you're operating with determination. Like no, I didn't
- 33:06Speaker 1: know how to make lipstick, but I did everything in
- 33:08Speaker 1: my power to learn and I'm not going to say
- 33:10Speaker 1: it was easy. It took probably a thousand batches of lipstick,
- 33:14Speaker 1: you know, me making these products before I got to
- 33:17Speaker 1: a good one. It was a story of resilience, and
- 33:20Speaker 1: I think that's largely the lit Bar story. Now, the
- 33:23Speaker 1: real product is a vegan product. Correct. Every single thing
- 33:27Speaker 1: that we make is vegan and cruelty free. So that
- 33:29Speaker 1: means that we don't use any animal products, we don't
- 33:32Speaker 1: test on animals, and we try to be as natural
- 33:34Speaker 1: as possible without compromising the products. The brain what you're
- 33:38Speaker 1: saying that you do, which is really important now, you know,
- 33:42Speaker 1: I love your energy. First of all, um, I have
- 33:44Speaker 1: a newsletter there I had set out every Friday nine am.
- 33:48Speaker 1: And a good friend of mine I found out about you,
- 33:50Speaker 1: was and Simbowski Ward, she's the CEO of Yes. She
- 33:58Speaker 1: she texts me said, Shan, you got to put it
- 34:00Speaker 1: on your show. Who Melissa lip Bar. She's really good
- 34:06Speaker 1: because you know she lives in Detroit and she lives
- 34:08Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and so that's how I found out about you.
- 34:11Speaker 1: Then I then every Tuesday I meet with my staff
- 34:14Speaker 1: and I said, uh, I've been recommended to interview a
- 34:17Speaker 1: young lady by the name of Melissa Butler as she
- 34:20Speaker 1: owns the lip Bar. And then my staff go, we've
- 34:21Speaker 1: already contacted her, so you're already on their radar. My
- 34:29Speaker 1: staff's radar people that I should bring on my show
- 34:32Speaker 1: is entrepreneurs. So the blessings are is that a good
- 34:36Speaker 1: friend of mine who was or I loved the death
- 34:40Speaker 1: and she's a fantastic smart person, and you know, a
- 34:43Speaker 1: good person to recommended you. And then my staff already
- 34:46Speaker 1: was greater to book you. So with that being I
- 34:50Speaker 1: love and to death, I love that woman. She has
- 34:53Speaker 1: been so hopeful in my journey. She she called your
- 34:58Speaker 1: boy right now, told me that this as a person
- 35:00Speaker 1: I should have on the show because you're a blessing.
- 35:03Speaker 1: You're gifted. And that's what I do on money making conversations,
- 35:06Speaker 1: I bring brands in and I use my brand free charge.
- 35:09Speaker 1: I'm not here to try to make money. I'm just
- 35:10Speaker 1: trying to give a platform to entrepreneurs that they can
- 35:13Speaker 1: talk to tell their story when no no, when no
- 35:15Speaker 1: hidden agendas. It's about so the nuggets that you share
- 35:20Speaker 1: on my show, hopefully other people hear it and go wow,
- 35:23Speaker 1: I can do it too. That's what this shows about.
- 35:26Speaker 1: Motivating people believe that they can do it too. Like
- 35:28Speaker 1: my degree. Just a little quick backstory, very short backstory.
- 35:32Speaker 1: My degree is in mathematics and computer and sociology. That's
- 35:36Speaker 1: my degree. I got into mathematics, and I went to
- 35:37Speaker 1: work for IBM and left IBM to pursue a career
- 35:40Speaker 1: as a stand up comedian and became a sitcom writer
- 35:43Speaker 1: and managed talent and marketing, branding gurgle for Fortune five
- 35:47Speaker 1: companies and producing television shows and film. That's my background. Okay,
- 35:51Speaker 1: but I didn't start out like that. I was a
- 35:53Speaker 1: math My degree is a mathematic Just like you said,
- 35:55Speaker 1: you know your your degree wasn't in chemistry. That didn't
- 35:58Speaker 1: stop you. So with that, I said, I'm trying to
- 36:02Speaker 1: because but that's a that's a big swing. I just
- 36:03Speaker 1: went from telling from mathematic to telling jokes. That wasn't
- 36:07Speaker 1: that big of a jump. I just I just got
- 36:11Speaker 1: your jump is huge. Here. I'm I'm trying to figure
- 36:14Speaker 1: out how confident did you have to be? So could
- 36:17Speaker 1: you walk me through the steps? Not trying to reveal anything,
- 36:20Speaker 1: but that's pretty impressive, miss Butler. The fact that you
- 36:24Speaker 1: were confident enough, and I'm sure you were the guinea pig,
- 36:28Speaker 1: of your of all your stuff, maybe some close friends
- 36:30Speaker 1: and things like that. Once you got going there a
- 36:32Speaker 1: little bit because you wanted to try it on different
- 36:34Speaker 1: skin tones and different skin textures and things like that.
- 36:37Speaker 1: So when you thought of just talking about the time
- 36:40Speaker 1: that you said, Okay, I want to do this, what
- 36:42Speaker 1: did other people say to you? Oh? I mean, people
- 36:46Speaker 1: thought I was crazy. My mom thought I was crazy.
- 36:50Speaker 1: My mom was like, oh, wait, you're quitting your job
- 36:53Speaker 1: because and two years in, I quit my job not
- 36:57Speaker 1: because I was making a ton of money, but because
- 36:59Speaker 1: I really believed in what I was doing, and I
- 37:01Speaker 1: knew that what I was doing could be powerful and
- 37:04Speaker 1: could really impact to women across the country. Um So
- 37:08Speaker 1: when I quit my job, I wasn't even replacing my salary.
- 37:11Speaker 1: I wasn't even gonna be able to pay myself a salary.
- 37:13Speaker 1: But I knew that that was the risk that I
- 37:16Speaker 1: was willing to take it because I knew that I
- 37:18Speaker 1: didn't have any other real responsibility. So for me, it
- 37:22Speaker 1: was more so like I would rather risk it all
- 37:25Speaker 1: and and either fall flat on my face or regret
- 37:28Speaker 1: not going after it. And so that was a decision
- 37:32Speaker 1: that I had to make and yeah, you're right, like
- 37:36Speaker 1: you have to have some level of confidence. But at
- 37:38Speaker 1: the end of the day, I didn't know what I
- 37:40Speaker 1: was doing. I had no idea what I was doing
- 37:44Speaker 1: or you know, how big or how small it could get.
- 37:47Speaker 1: But I knew that what I was doing was important.
- 37:51Speaker 1: So you know, for all business owners, they they told
- 37:53Speaker 1: you to make sure you're starting with a problem, right.
- 37:56Speaker 1: So I very clearly knew that there was a problem
- 37:59Speaker 1: within the in the street. And I was like, you
- 38:01Speaker 1: know what, I don't know. I don't know how this works.
- 38:03Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the beauty industry. I don't
- 38:06Speaker 1: know anything about manufacturing. But I'm going to try because
- 38:09Speaker 1: I think this is a problem that's worth solving, and
- 38:12Speaker 1: you are and obviously people are reacted to it. Here's
- 38:14Speaker 1: there's something funny. I'm just let you know. I have
- 38:17Speaker 1: a newsletter that goes out every Friday at nine am,
- 38:19Speaker 1: goes out like to ninety thousand subscribers and so on.
- 38:24Speaker 1: And I told mar my staff, I said, trump one
- 38:27Speaker 1: of her and you know, one of your ads, uh
- 38:31Speaker 1: banners in there with the link and everything. It was
- 38:34Speaker 1: the most clicked link in my newsletter two weeks ago.
- 38:39Speaker 1: That's how popular your brand is it? And I always
- 38:43Speaker 1: tell people, you know, wow, it was the most click link.
- 38:46Speaker 1: It was like it was crazy because you know, I
- 38:49Speaker 1: said it out on Fridays and on Mondays meet with
- 38:51Speaker 1: the staff and I go at eight am when I
- 38:53Speaker 1: go zoom because when the pandemic time. And I go,
- 38:56Speaker 1: They said, what, what's trying to give us a update
- 38:58Speaker 1: on newsletter? I said, all the most clicked link in
- 39:02Speaker 1: the newsletter was the lip box. And and you know
- 39:08Speaker 1: the reason, I just have to say that because it
- 39:09Speaker 1: wasn't tied to you a famous person. It wasn't. It
- 39:13Speaker 1: was just your product and either the name recognition or
- 39:17Speaker 1: your product of the first of all, the marketing it
- 39:20Speaker 1: looks so you have a beautiful looking product, first of all,
- 39:23Speaker 1: and and doing a tre minute job of marketing it
- 39:27Speaker 1: and so and so. So I didn't know what to
- 39:30Speaker 1: expect when I put in there. I just know that
- 39:32Speaker 1: I support, you know, African American entrepreneurs. That's the purpose
- 39:35Speaker 1: of where I created money making conversations. But I also
- 39:40Speaker 1: noticed that when people clicked, you have you know, you
- 39:42Speaker 1: have unique clicks and you have a total clicks, all right,
- 39:46Speaker 1: And people just kept going back to your ad. So
- 39:50Speaker 1: I always tell people that generally is a sign that
- 39:51Speaker 1: people were buying things when they keep going back, you know,
- 39:54Speaker 1: they go they go back to try and figure stuff out,
- 39:56Speaker 1: and go back and go back and go back. Usually
- 39:58Speaker 1: when people click one time, there could be some sales,
- 40:01Speaker 1: but usually, you know, because you rather do people click
- 40:04Speaker 1: and they just go through the process of buying unless
- 40:06Speaker 1: they really know what they're doing. So I just know
- 40:09Speaker 1: that you are doing a great job of marketing and
- 40:12Speaker 1: the story you're telling on the air with me right now,
- 40:15Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive. Um, thank you. I'm not finished with
- 40:19Speaker 1: any I just want to thank you. How do you
- 40:21Speaker 1: want to thank you? You know what I'm I'll be
- 40:27Speaker 1: having celebrities in there. You know, Erica Campbell, you're learning
- 40:29Speaker 1: the Adams, Kelly Rowlands. You know, I have a superstar paddler,
- 40:34Speaker 1: but I have superstars being they're selling stuff in my
- 40:36Speaker 1: news letter. And then little lot ms clip bar click
- 40:40Speaker 1: click click click click, congratulations, We go back with my
- 40:47Speaker 1: friend like the little bar ceo. She moved from New
- 40:51Speaker 1: York to Detroit and may ain't there was snowing in Detroit.
- 40:54Speaker 1: She to know what she had gotten herself into, but
- 40:57Speaker 1: she's a happy person. There's a lot of cliches. You
- 40:59Speaker 1: hear a lot in this business of being successful. You know, gifts, passion, um,
- 41:06Speaker 1: don't sleep on who you should really be. A lot
- 41:08Speaker 1: of quotes on the phone as a person who um
- 41:11Speaker 1: got a degree, family, family, rattlers down there, will packer
- 41:17Speaker 1: down there. You know. My board did two movies with
- 41:20Speaker 1: him Thinking like a Man and Think Like a Man too,
- 41:23Speaker 1: and just a number of great things. Before we go
- 41:26Speaker 1: into further into your brand, I want to talk about
- 41:29Speaker 1: the HBCU experience. I always like to talk to the
- 41:32Speaker 1: individuals and I have that experience, that level of education,
- 41:38Speaker 1: and to reflect on the importance of HBCUs. Can you
- 41:41Speaker 1: can you talk to us about it? Melissa oh man, Um,
- 41:47Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm gonna be honest, family changed my life,
- 41:50Speaker 1: Like honestly, it changed my life. I before I got
- 41:55Speaker 1: to fam you, I didn't know how culturally diverse Black
- 41:58Speaker 1: people are. Um, I didn't. I didn't really know how
- 42:04Speaker 1: to fill myself. I didn't know what made um a
- 42:09Speaker 1: special And like you know, when you grow up, you
- 42:11Speaker 1: always here that you know, we have to work prices hard,
- 42:14Speaker 1: and I think at an institution like FAMU and like
- 42:17Speaker 1: other HBCUs, you know, you're surrounded by black excellence, so
- 42:22Speaker 1: it doesn't become something that that you have to strive for,
- 42:26Speaker 1: it becomes your default. So FAM you taught fam You
- 42:30Speaker 1: taught me how to make excellence to my default. And
- 42:33Speaker 1: it taught me how to have just such such pride
- 42:36Speaker 1: in the diversity of black people. Now I'm from Detroit,
- 42:40Speaker 1: so Detroit is one of the blackest cities in America.
- 42:43Speaker 1: Is not the blackest city in America. So I've always had, like,
- 42:47Speaker 1: you know, the very strong racial pride. Like I've always
- 42:51Speaker 1: been a very proud black woman, but like going to
- 42:54Speaker 1: FAMU it really cemented that. And and I'm I'm just
- 42:58Speaker 1: really proud to have had merely black experiences because I've
- 43:02Speaker 1: never had the question who I am. I've never I've
- 43:05Speaker 1: never been in an environment where I felt the need
- 43:08Speaker 1: to assimilate, even when I was working on Wall Street
- 43:10Speaker 1: and I'm surrounded by you know, older white men. It
- 43:14Speaker 1: was my days at FAM YOU that prepared me for
- 43:17Speaker 1: those moments. So, like, I just really feel so blessed
- 43:20Speaker 1: to have have gone to that university. If I'm gonna
- 43:23Speaker 1: be honest, well, I'm just telling you, congratulations also it
- 43:26Speaker 1: also taught you that that be fearless obviously in developing
- 43:31Speaker 1: this liber Yeah, let's talk about because I mentioned the
- 43:34Speaker 1: newsletter and I and how it was the most clicked
- 43:38Speaker 1: um a banner or link in my newsletter that week.
- 43:44Speaker 1: How did the marketing starts talking? You talked about the product, okay,
- 43:48Speaker 1: and how you developed that. Let's talk about the marketing
- 43:51Speaker 1: and the art work. How did that come about and
- 43:53Speaker 1: who did you work with? So it's a couple of
- 43:57Speaker 1: different facets of the lit bar as a company. So
- 44:01Speaker 1: number one, I always say that that we don't like
- 44:05Speaker 1: the product is just something that we happen to sell,
- 44:08Speaker 1: But what we do is empower women. So like what
- 44:11Speaker 1: we do as a company is empower women and remind
- 44:13Speaker 1: them that they are enough. And then what we happen
- 44:16Speaker 1: to sell the byproduct of that is you know, these
- 44:19Speaker 1: vegan and cruelty free and high quality makeup products that
- 44:22Speaker 1: we actually sail on the website. So just understanding that
- 44:25Speaker 1: our goal is always to remind people that they are
- 44:29Speaker 1: enough and to allow themselves to be seen within the
- 44:32Speaker 1: beauty industry, that then dictated the rest of the marketing.
- 44:35Speaker 1: So if our goal is like okay, we're gonna increase
- 44:37Speaker 1: representation within the beauty industry, then that automatically decides what
- 44:42Speaker 1: models we use. So we're not going to use the
- 44:44Speaker 1: same models that you see in every single and and
- 44:46Speaker 1: every other ad because that is that is the default.
- 44:50Speaker 1: And we're trying to expand the minds of our customers
- 44:54Speaker 1: and show them that they are enough. So so it's
- 44:56Speaker 1: a lot of storytelling, and that storytelling really comes from,
- 45:00Speaker 1: you know, who we are as a company and who
- 45:02Speaker 1: we who we're trying to serve as a company. So
- 45:05Speaker 1: you know, we make sure that we're using you know,
- 45:08Speaker 1: women of all complexions, deep deep skin tone, um women
- 45:12Speaker 1: with no hair, women who are plus sized, the women
- 45:16Speaker 1: who um are Muslim. We're we're using all sorts of
- 45:20Speaker 1: women just to show that again, beauty doesn't come in
- 45:23Speaker 1: one shape or size, or one hair texture or one complexion.
- 45:27Speaker 1: Beauty isn't all of us. And so that really dictates
- 45:30Speaker 1: the marketing and it's just constantly telling the stories of
- 45:34Speaker 1: those women because ultimately, that's that's what it's about. It's
- 45:37Speaker 1: not about the product. It's about how this product makes
- 45:39Speaker 1: that woman feel and where this woman uses the product.
- 45:42Speaker 1: You know, where is this product accompanying her in her life. Um,
- 45:47Speaker 1: and that's that's really like what dictates all of our marketing.
- 45:51Speaker 1: Well he's done with it? Well, yeah do I'm on
- 45:53Speaker 1: the website now and seeing this as six products seven
- 45:57Speaker 1: minutes your full faith? What exactly is that? Yeah? I'm
- 46:05Speaker 1: so have you asked? So we just launched our fast
- 46:08Speaker 1: face system. It's called fast Face System, right yet, fast face? Yeah?
- 46:14Speaker 1: Slow down? You know, I got six sisters. But you
- 46:17Speaker 1: you know, just a world. I gotta stay, stay in
- 46:19Speaker 1: the loop with you. Don't you just race out there
- 46:21Speaker 1: like your boy. Know what you're talking about here? Okay,
- 46:24Speaker 1: I feel you. I feel so. So it's called the
- 46:30Speaker 1: fast Face. I found is that a lot of women
- 46:34Speaker 1: buy makeup and wear makeup, but they don't really know
- 46:37Speaker 1: how to use it, and they all really know what
- 46:40Speaker 1: works for them. It's kind of like when you go
- 46:42Speaker 1: to the grocery store if you don't know how to cook,
- 46:44Speaker 1: and you're just buying a bunch of seasonings, but you
- 46:46Speaker 1: still don't know how to put them in youth. It's
- 46:49Speaker 1: very it's a very funny analogy. It's very funny. I
- 46:52Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, you can't cook, then you can't cook.
- 46:59Speaker 1: You get buy every easy thing in the store, don't
- 47:01Speaker 1: make it mean that addition, don't turn off better. And
- 47:04Speaker 1: so we've we've found that a lot of women were
- 47:07Speaker 1: buying makeup products but didn't really know what worked for them,
- 47:11Speaker 1: what worked for their complexion, how to use the product
- 47:14Speaker 1: um And so we were like, we need to solve
- 47:17Speaker 1: the problem of the lack of education around makeup because
- 47:21Speaker 1: makeup is one of those things that that's been around
- 47:24Speaker 1: for a really long time. You just automatically expect that
- 47:27Speaker 1: people know what they're doing, but they don't. Like my
- 47:30Speaker 1: my customers are not makeup artists. They're not the people
- 47:33Speaker 1: who are watching YouTube videos. They don't have time, you know,
- 47:36Speaker 1: they're raising kids, or they're they're growing in their careers,
- 47:40Speaker 1: or they're just spending time more time on what actually matters.
- 47:44Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest, we've we've never believed that
- 47:47Speaker 1: makeup was the most important thing, and it should never be.
- 47:50Speaker 1: So we were like, okay, well, how do we allow
- 47:52Speaker 1: our customers to show up there as their best selves
- 47:57Speaker 1: without having to spend so much time trying to learn it.
- 48:00Speaker 1: So we launched our Face, our fast Faced system, which
- 48:04Speaker 1: is basically like the proactive of makeup where in six
- 48:07Speaker 1: products and it's designed to give you your full makeup
- 48:10Speaker 1: look in seven minutes or less. And we tell you exactly,
- 48:14Speaker 1: you know how to use the products, and we curate
- 48:17Speaker 1: what works for your complexion for you. So once we
- 48:20Speaker 1: know your foundation, we select all the rest of the
- 48:23Speaker 1: products for you, so you don't have to think about
- 48:25Speaker 1: what Blessed works from my complection, what likst it works
- 48:28Speaker 1: for me. If we know your skin tone, then we
- 48:30Speaker 1: select every single item in that fast Face kid, this
- 48:34Speaker 1: is awesome. Um so I'm just looking at your sight here,
- 48:38Speaker 1: I'm looking at her site as uh, the lip bar
- 48:41Speaker 1: dot com. That's why I got the information about the
- 48:43Speaker 1: six products, seven minute minutes your full face, which is
- 48:46Speaker 1: the fast faced system that she was talking about. And
- 48:49Speaker 1: then you have then then I clicked tutorials and then
- 48:52Speaker 1: you have the was that the fast Faced challenge right there? Yeah,
- 48:57Speaker 1: that's that's that's so much fun. That's like the content out.
- 49:00Speaker 1: You know, I'm just going through your site having fun.
- 49:02Speaker 1: I'm just always just clicking just but you know, I'm
- 49:09Speaker 1: very complimentary of you because of the fact that, uh,
- 49:13Speaker 1: it's a you know, everything I love walking in I
- 49:16Speaker 1: love branding I love trying to figure out what white
- 49:19Speaker 1: people relate to anything. First of all, your your lines
- 49:23Speaker 1: and your artwork clean. They're very clean, and and and
- 49:28Speaker 1: and everything's very it's it's just it's just almost like
- 49:31Speaker 1: it's three dimensional, but it's not. It's just done that well.
- 49:35Speaker 1: And so you tell a really good, fun story on
- 49:39Speaker 1: your website, and that's important because you know it's online,
- 49:43Speaker 1: it's online business, and so you're not working out of
- 49:46Speaker 1: a storefront, and so that is important. So when I'm
- 49:50Speaker 1: just having fun and going, I'm at the fast Faced
- 49:52Speaker 1: Challenge that clicked tutorials. I got options, I'm not I'm
- 49:55Speaker 1: not limited. I got the shade find I got the eye,
- 49:58Speaker 1: the face, the lips, the as faced kids. All this
- 50:01Speaker 1: good stuff is a guy. I'm a guy now, older
- 50:04Speaker 1: guy that not wearing in it. And I'm having fun.
- 50:07Speaker 1: So I can imagine that the women that come to
- 50:09Speaker 1: your site, and now I can see why your site
- 50:12Speaker 1: was so clicked. When people they click, they had to
- 50:15Speaker 1: come back. This is fun, This is fun. You tell
- 50:17Speaker 1: a great story that's hilarious. Thank you. Honestly, we had
- 50:23Speaker 1: to learn how to tell that story because when we
- 50:26Speaker 1: when we launched, you know, a lot of small businesses
- 50:28Speaker 1: out there. You don't you don't have money to launch
- 50:30Speaker 1: into a retail store. You don't have money to open
- 50:33Speaker 1: your own store. So we were like, all right, well,
- 50:35Speaker 1: we're selling something that people traditionally buy in person. How
- 50:39Speaker 1: do we make the most impactful moment possible online to
- 50:43Speaker 1: give that customer confidence to place in that order. Now
- 50:46Speaker 1: we have a little bit of flexibility because we're on
- 50:48Speaker 1: Target stores across the country. I mean, that's a little
- 50:56Speaker 1: bitty town aking okay, doing the girl Columbia sok at
- 51:02Speaker 1: the town that Columbia, rock Hill, South Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina.
- 51:08Speaker 1: Congratulations here this is all I mean when when they
- 51:11Speaker 1: you crossed the board here, So you know, I also
- 51:14Speaker 1: know that they can buy you through the Amazon because
- 51:16Speaker 1: I went online, you know Amazon. I'll be I'll be
- 51:18Speaker 1: doing my little research. I don't know if you know, miss,
- 51:20Speaker 1: but I don't just get on the phone just start
- 51:23Speaker 1: talking to somebody trying to confused. I've done my homework
- 51:26Speaker 1: on you, and you got your little act together, little
- 51:29Speaker 1: miss fam you little miss I was in New York
- 51:32Speaker 1: just doing it and I got tired. I just went
- 51:34Speaker 1: on back home. Detroit said, hey, I'm gonna make it happen,
- 51:37Speaker 1: and you all making it happen. If you had to
- 51:39Speaker 1: say anything to anybody who listened to your shows. The
- 51:43Speaker 1: lift bar dot com our own lines of very use
- 51:46Speaker 1: in front of side. You can go to the store
- 51:49Speaker 1: locator and find out the nearest target near you. And
- 51:51Speaker 1: believe me, it's gonna be a target near you. I'm
- 51:54Speaker 1: going through this little thing and it's it's so you know,
- 51:57Speaker 1: when you scroll down, you get tied scrolling down. I'm
- 52:00Speaker 1: tired of scrolling down. That's how many target stories she's
- 52:03Speaker 1: she's wearing me at Warren, Michigan, Greenville Northline. I'm telling
- 52:07Speaker 1: you something I I as a stand up comic. I
- 52:10Speaker 1: used to travel this country all over. I know how
- 52:12Speaker 1: small Greenville, North Carolina. See that's a compliment. See when
- 52:15Speaker 1: you're in cities like Greenville, North Clina, that means everybody
- 52:19Speaker 1: buying her product. Everybody understands the value of her product.
- 52:23Speaker 1: And it's only get bigger. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. This is awesome.
- 52:27Speaker 1: I'm excited for you. What's the what's the what's the
- 52:30Speaker 1: goal here? Ms Butler, Well, you're gonna take over the world.
- 52:35Speaker 1: You are hious. I'm excited for you. You know, this
- 52:42Speaker 1: is a beauty of Chester Peake, Virginia. You're just rocking
- 52:45Speaker 1: the rod Woodbridge, Virginia. I mean just just you' all
- 52:49Speaker 1: the target stories. This is beautiful. So what's the what's
- 52:52Speaker 1: the what's the ultimate goal here? My friend? You know,
- 52:54Speaker 1: it just started out to make sure that everybody should
- 52:57Speaker 1: not understand that beauty doesn't start with the product starts
- 52:59Speaker 1: with them. Then the product only enhances it. And and
- 53:03Speaker 1: it's organic, it's vegan, you know, and it's not cruelty related.
- 53:08Speaker 1: What's the future, lip bar? The future just to make
- 53:13Speaker 1: sure that every woman knows that they are enough and
- 53:16Speaker 1: to keep growing this, this black owned business as big
- 53:19Speaker 1: as it can so that we can start reinvesting in
- 53:22Speaker 1: our community. Well, my friend, I'm gonna drop you back
- 53:25Speaker 1: at my news letter this time. You know it's coming.
- 53:28Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna be the most click thing in
- 53:29Speaker 1: my newsletter. And uh god, bless you girl, don't you change.
- 53:34Speaker 1: I'm glad I got you on my show like ms
- 53:37Speaker 1: Abouski war that's my girl. She introduced me to you.
- 53:41Speaker 1: My staff already knew about you because I'm an old dude,
- 53:44Speaker 1: don't know nothing about the lipstick. But now I do
- 53:47Speaker 1: cause I know where the lip bar dot com is.
- 53:50Speaker 1: I got the story local, i'mna take my little twitter
- 53:52Speaker 1: two year old daughters say, let's go lip bar shopping. Okay, oh,
- 53:56Speaker 1: I love it. I really appreciate you. This is like
- 53:59Speaker 1: my fun interview ever. I love it. I appreciate you.
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- 55:51Speaker 1: the AD Council. The next guest is known to the
- 55:54Speaker 1: world as an internationally acclaimed singer, actress, entrepreneur, and executive
- 55:59Speaker 1: television user, best known for her current role as the
- 56:02Speaker 1: start of we TV's hit series Braxton Family Values. She's
- 56:07Speaker 1: also an entrepreneur of Ladybug Skincare, new cosmetic line. That's
- 56:11Speaker 1: why I really got on the show. She's an entrepreneur
- 56:13Speaker 1: of y'all. The products are created for all skin types
- 56:16Speaker 1: and gives the user a young, natural and refreshing glow.
- 56:19Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversation, my friend. To
- 56:22Speaker 1: wind up, Braxton, thank you for having you. Know, Tota,
- 56:27Speaker 1: I want to just tell you, thank you for doing
- 56:29Speaker 1: the show. And the first time I want I was
- 56:32Speaker 1: sitting in the screening room and uh, it was a
- 56:34Speaker 1: misguided behavioral movie makes I was screaming that movie with
- 56:39Speaker 1: a good friend of my Sharon Tomlinson. It's a very
- 56:41Speaker 1: good friend of mine. Pray for her every day. And
- 56:45Speaker 1: uh and so and I said, who's that? Who's that?
- 56:47Speaker 1: She says, Because I don't want look at reality shows
- 56:50Speaker 1: all the time, I said, Now, I formerly managed Steve Harvey,
- 56:55Speaker 1: and I remember you guys came into our studios in
- 56:58Speaker 1: Atlanta and we interviewed guys as a group. We had
- 57:01Speaker 1: all stacked up, some of y'all in front, I'm all
- 57:03Speaker 1: in the back road. So I met you then, okay,
- 57:06Speaker 1: and so we have a little physical history of meeting
- 57:08Speaker 1: you and I go. I know I told her that.
- 57:12Speaker 1: I know, I told her, just an acting debut. You
- 57:16Speaker 1: need me on the stage doing your thing and there. So,
- 57:21Speaker 1: so you talk about that, that's a love that I
- 57:24Speaker 1: saw in you, a skill I saw in you that
- 57:26Speaker 1: surprised me. And and you know, I'm a guy always
- 57:30Speaker 1: looking for new talent, always looking for different ways to
- 57:33Speaker 1: to bring people to the forefront of their their dreams.
- 57:36Speaker 1: That's all I'm assuming acting, there's a dream of yours.
- 57:38Speaker 1: Talk about that the whole acting background, because you get
- 57:41Speaker 1: caught up in the reality the world and people think
- 57:43Speaker 1: that's all you want to do, that's all you can't
- 57:45Speaker 1: do because you're already known as a notable singer. But
- 57:48Speaker 1: just talk about their love for acting to wander. Okay,
- 57:51Speaker 1: So like back in the day when I was a child,
- 57:57Speaker 1: I used to always be in all the elementary school plays.
- 58:00Speaker 1: And then when I got to h Junior high school,
- 58:04Speaker 1: I was in all the plays then. Um and then
- 58:07Speaker 1: you know, I always made sure I went I didn't
- 58:10Speaker 1: go against the grain when it came to my family
- 58:12Speaker 1: because singing with the family's business. Um. So when when
- 58:16Speaker 1: I went to college, I um we did when we
- 58:22Speaker 1: said university, you talk about that? So um And we
- 58:32Speaker 1: did off Broadway show called String Girls and I played
- 58:38Speaker 1: Larrell Um and this was in Maryland. And then the
- 58:41Speaker 1: director was also a professor at Howard University UM, and
- 58:47Speaker 1: he was also a personal friend of the families. And
- 58:50Speaker 1: he never knew that I really wanted to act. So
- 58:53Speaker 1: when you know, he as the director, he always called
- 58:55Speaker 1: me about my character named Mourel. Did you did you've
- 58:58Speaker 1: ever take any acting classes? And I was like, al Sir,
- 59:00Speaker 1: I never took any. He was like, are you kidding me?
- 59:02Speaker 1: And I'd be like, al sir. And all the actors
- 59:05Speaker 1: that he had in the play outside of me and
- 59:08Speaker 1: my sisters were from Howard University UM, and they were
- 59:12Speaker 1: just amaze that I never took any classes. He was like,
- 59:14Speaker 1: you have a raw talent. He said, Um, I want
- 59:16Speaker 1: to give you a theater scholarship at Howard University. And
- 59:21Speaker 1: I didn't take it. I turned it down because for one,
- 59:26Speaker 1: like I said, I was in the family's business and
- 59:29Speaker 1: the family's business of singing, although my passion and my
- 59:32Speaker 1: love was acting always, and you have a talent for
- 59:37Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. So I went ahead
- 59:40Speaker 1: and did the family thing. You know, we me, Tamar
- 59:43Speaker 1: and Trina signed with air Aris I'm sorry, I'm Atlantic Records.
- 59:48Speaker 1: And we tried. We we toured with muth of van
- 59:51Speaker 1: Ross in al sitter Tony. So, I mean we had
- 59:54Speaker 1: some moderate success that the overseas. UM, but I still
- 59:58Speaker 1: really wanted to add so I took some I started
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: taking some acting classes um in Atlanta. I mean, I
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: was really trying to own into my craft. Um. And
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: then I was accepted into a Lee Straussburg acting classes
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: in l A. Um, you can active there, Okay, you
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: act the rest that dude right there for a person
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: and that right. So I was really I was so
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: excited that I was accepted into that school. So I'm
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. He's like a brother. He's
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: like one of my male best friends in the business.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: Carl Payne, he said yes, she said, come on, tee,
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: I got this movie. I want you to be in
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: this movie. And um, I was like cool. And then
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: and then what I love about having friends like like
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: Carl is he didn't just have me in the movie
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: just because I was his friends. You know what I
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: mean I had I mean, I had to work towards
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: you know because me being his friend. If he was
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: just doing it as my friend, he would have made
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: me in the least. And he was like, no, this
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: is what you're gonna do. So he gave me a
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: part in the movie. U. I earned a part in
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: the movie Get the Time, right, earned right. I earned
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: a part in the movie. And I was so super
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: super happy. Um, that was my That was the first
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: time that I really got my feat wet um as
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: being an actor in the in the movie. When I
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: when I always talk about people on the show about entertainment, entrepreneurship,
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: and I always tell people to value and the importance
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: of relationships. Okay, this is this is what I speak
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: of when I say relationships because again, you know, we
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: were talented, we'll get you so far. I would tell
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: relationships will keep you in the game. Okay, yeah, And
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: this is what you could talk about the value relationship
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: not only just the opportunity you got with you know,
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: calling this movie, but also in the industry overall. How
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: to help you having been having a relationship of having
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: talent and extending you and giving you a career in
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: this business. Absolutely, yes, So you know what, it's one
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: thing about just having the the UM. I guess the
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: gift of whether it's singing, act and producing is one thing.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: Just to have that gift of being able to do
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: those things is another thing. Of how you perceive yourself
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: in front of individuals. And I always say that the
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: st the toes that you step on today may be
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: connected to the ask you have to kiss tomorrow. So
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: you have to be extremely careful with how you treat people.
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: You just have to, you know, I know in in
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, people get on your nerves. Everybody isn't
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: always on the up and up and people there are
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: a lot of users, not just an entertainment industry but
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: across the board in the world. UM. So you have
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: to be careful UM. And you have to be sharp
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: as well. So it's very important to maintain relationships. Just
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: be nice to people. It doesn't take nothing, just to
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: smile and just to say thank you, um and and
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: those things will take you a long way. Like um
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: and it took me to another situation where I've been.
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: I'm very close friends with Terry Vaughan and Cast Figgers,
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: who who's an incredible writer. She's written Yes, Yes and
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: she and and Terry is she's an incredible or phenomenal
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: actor and she's a phenomenal director. Um so I was able.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: I was able to um have an opportunity to be
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: in another movie and it was a Christmas movie with
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: David and Tamela. Man keep braggingly embracing the fact that
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: this is something that I love, so I get excited about,
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: you know. I mean I talked about my music and
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: I talked about singing with my family. But that's to me,
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: that's like second nature. That's like greeting, you know, And
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: that's something that was the family, which is important, Which
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: is important. It's so important, and that's why that's that's
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: why I wanted to bring that out because a lot
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: of a lot of times people they want to just
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: label you on what they know about you. And when
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: I try to get money making conversations allow my guests
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: to have a conversation and also to talk about the
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: things that excite them. Because like you know, I got
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: my degree in mathematics, I wanted to work for EEL.
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: It's just like you said, you know, you know, family
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: bears a singing, but that doesn't necessarily make I was
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: going to be working at ibing for the rest of
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: my life. So now it's time to explore what makes
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: me happy, what motivates me to get out of bed,
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: and you have to take rest. They're no, they're no guarantees.
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: Now it's guarantee you can go on that stage and
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: hit the note not to wander. There's no guarantee. You
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: don't know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: Nothing that's that's doesn't But a gift doesn't necessarily mean
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: that's your passion, right, You got to speak on that come.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: That's that's why I brought you on the show. You
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: didn't know why he was coming on this show. You said, Okay,
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: I hear by RuSHA. They got me schedule for this show.
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: Money make comes in. I'm gonna make this phone call
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: and see what's going on, you know, just the promotion.
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: But I can't tell everybody but your story, your story
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: of a motivation, story about following your truths. And that's
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: where law is about your truths. But you know, when
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: the business making money, so we'll do some things to
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: make money to pay the bills. But remember, in the end,
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: before you die, before you before you give up hope,
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: at least try to participating what you really wanted to do.
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: And so so when I saw you a miss guy
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: to behave, I started smile and I said, yeah, I
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: remember she came. She came with Steve Harvey. She I
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: had a booked on our show, and that the first
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: time I mentioned it was a casual meeting. And to
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: see you there because because to me, reality shows it
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: what they are there their reality. You know what I'm
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: saying there there, and some of the ways are improvised
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: in some of them over arched. I'm not saying your show,
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: but in general and so so, but that's not acting.
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: And so when I say a naturally talented person skilled
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: look comfortable, because I know the difficultures of acting. When
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: I look at acting, I go wow. I really appreciate
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: people who can translate words because I did Tom come
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: from Jamie Foxx, the Parkers Sister sister. So I've seen
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: my words come to life a lot, and so to
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: see you do that, to want to don't stop, please,
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: don't stop. Thank you, Thank you, thank you for saying that.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: Thank you. Be right back on, lady. I'm gonna go
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: to this break. We're gonna go to this break. I
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: gotta talk about your entrepreneur career and also just talk
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: about you though, what did you gain and the lessons
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: you learned of doing a reality series and things like that,
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: But just to just to understand point of its just
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: a career, because we all know that's a stepping stone
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: and you want to bigger steps and higher steps on
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: that ladder. I would like to stop the show for
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: a minute because I'm an advocate. I did not go
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: to an hbc U, but that doesn't stop me from
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: being an advocate and promoting HBCU is because of the
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: fact that the contributions that they bring to us that
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: a lot of people don't recognize on a regular basis.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: Please tell us about attending HBCU. Why you recommend, you know,
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: individuals to go to black and white male female to
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: go to HBCUs. Well, you know what, First of all, UM,
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: when I was growing up and I went to my
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: secondary schools, it was predominantly white. And I have to
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: say that, UM, I know this is gonna sound bad
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: to say, but culturally, Um, it was a cultural shock
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: for me to even go to Booty State University because
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: I saw so many of my people. But I think
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: it's so important, Um, for us to embrace HBCUs, to
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: support hbc USED because that's how we learn. We learned
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: from other individuals, that's in our own culture, you know.
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: And I learned so much stuff that I didn't learn
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: when I was in school because of course they don't
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: teach everything, and you know your secondary schools. I mean,
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: I learned about the isis paper. I learned. I mean
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: I just started reading stuff. I had no idea about UM.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: And then just culturally, wed black Black people were party
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: different we speak differently, we support differently, and I just
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: think that that's so important to go to an HBCU
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: and I pledged. I'm a zata and I'm a sick
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: a sweetheart nine member. Okay, you're talking to a man
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: right now, right, so right, I think we're going for
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: and then and then the reason that I even pledge
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: data UM is because I went to this UM. I
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: went to this nonprofit dinner and I had no idea
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: that we was sponsored by the Blue and White Family
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: and UM Mayor Barry was there. I mean, there was
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: so many prominent people there because I'm from the the
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: DNB area, UM and the dinner was NBC and baby Faces.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: But he just went because the baby Face was performing.
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: I got tickets, you know, and he get to the table,
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: So maybe Face was performing. After seven was there Cavan
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: and El DeBarge there was performing. And then they started
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: talking about a lot of a lot of men with
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: high pitched voices were performing. That's that's really really sick
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: talking about or you know how Laskey kids in the
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: board of Babies and all of that. And I had
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: no idea that the Blue and White Family was connected
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: to those organizations. And I was like, wow. And I'm
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: not a person who really brags about everything that I
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: do or you know, I don't always want to paddle
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: my back for supporting or helping some one, and that
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: was more of my personality. So I was like, oh
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: my god, I want to join the organization. And I
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: became Zeta and the single sweetheart. Congratulations. I always tell people,
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: you know, when I talk about HBC overbcus across the
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: country and the only a role of the African American
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: student and despite constitute only three percent for your colleges
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: in the country, HBC used produced eight percent of the
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: black judges, of the black lawyers, of the black doctors,
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: forty of the black engineers of the Black members of converences,
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: percent of all Black STEM graduates and of the black
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: CEOs in America. That is why I needed to hear
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: your story of Towanda, because it's in that mix that
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: we need to keep telling people when every year talking
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: about we need to why we funding HBCUs? Do you
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: know how you have to? What else do we have? Really? Um?
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: And then another thing is I don't agree with like
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: some of these EPCs. You It's like, why are they
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: falling apart? Why are they falling by the wayside? Because
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: even State University, who was the first teacher's college in
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: Maryland might add black, sorry the first black because college
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: now it's under the University of Maryland system, And I'm
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: like how it happens? Right? Well, you know I think
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: that that's why I'm really promoting and I got some
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: things under the work said I'm gonna be announcing in
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: the month of August just to shine more light. And
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: it's like anything you know, you don't know about Ohio State,
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: you don't know about Maryland. Because people's promoted and this
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: brand has to be promoted and signed the light of success.
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: Like those numbers that I'm talking about, they need to
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: be shined on a regular basis, not only just the
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: African Americans, but to the world, and people go, really,
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: what kind of education that they're doing over there, education
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: that your kids can go to, your kids can go to,
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: because it's it's the it's HBCUs are tied to diversity,
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: and that's something that a lot of people don't admit
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: to happening. And so and so in twenty eleven when
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: they was like a really strategized campaign to try to
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: diminish the accomplishments of HBCUs and hurt HBCUs. And so
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: my motivation now is like, okay with Sean, you know
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: this is what you do. You're marking in brain. And
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: so whenever I have a fantastic person who's attending an
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: HPCU like you, I always just like carve out a
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: moment in the show. Do you think you're tap dance boy?
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: Come on, do you think they're th HBC moment? What's
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: about to do with that? I'm gonna set aside my
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: time for h b c U s and it's gonna
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: get bigg to wander. Now. Did I know now that
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: I know blue and white, blue white, you can be
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: here from your boy, But before we get out here,
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: I'll be remiss. But I if I don't talk about
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: your entrepreneurship and if let's let's let's talk about first
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: of all, Um, you know we talked about acting. Now
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Ladybug skincare. Yea, let's let's let's
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: set to to Wanda's deemed itself as responsible for you know, okay, acne,
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: dull skin and other skin impurities. It's a new cosmetic
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: cosmetic line. What inspired you to do this? Because you're
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: naturally attractive. You got good skin, Like I said, God
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: gave it to you. Okay, I didn't have to work hard.
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: You're the women that don't have to work hard for
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: our face. Okay with her face all good? Okay, But
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: everybody's not like you, Okay, Tamantha, right exactly exactly. Um.
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: You know what, I've always been a person who didn't
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: really drink water. I don't like drinking. I love, Oh
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: my god, unless your heart it tastes like askering to.
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: But I always wanted my skin to look amazing, right. Um.
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: So I met with Miss Charlotte Wilson, who is the
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: skin god like. She's incredible with skin like she does
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: Porsche skin she does um, um wasn't a black China
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: skin Who's entre skin is impeccable. Um, she does Lisa
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: raised skin. Her skin is most tawless, uh, Cynthia Bailly.
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: I mean she does everybody's skin. And then I met
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: up with Miss Charlotte and I was like, I want
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: my skin to look like like I don't have any
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: makeup and I don't want to wear makeup like that anymore.
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: And she was like, I got you. Um and she
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: was like, Twanta, you have good skin because all like
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: I said, I've always been into skin and I have
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: skin and be like most women when you go to
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: when you see a woman who has beautiful skin, you
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: always compliment her like, oh my god, you skin is beautiful. Um.
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: So she said let's do a line together, and I
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: was like, oh my god. I felt so honored that
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: she was willing to do a line with me because,
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: like I said, she's a skin guy. Like that's amazing.
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: Everybody wants to do a line with Miss Charlotte. Um
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: so um. She sent me some samples of different soaps
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: and different combinations of things, and um we we came
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: up with um ages timeless so it's a it's an
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: anti aging um skin care line. And I'm I'm a
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: woman of a particular age now I'm past forty. So
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: I used to have I used to I used to
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: look like a panda bear like without bake up. I
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: used to have dark circles gonna make my eyes. And
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: I thought it was because I wasn't drinctly enough water,
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: wasn't enough rest. But it was because my pigmentation and
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: a little of it is that hereditary. So my dad
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: used to have it. When he started using Ladybugs. Seme here,
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: he doesn't have dark circles anymore. Okay, okay, stop it.
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: That's my that's my curse right there, dark circle, you're
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: telling me, don't get mad at you because you're boy,
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: I'm gonna gonna make a purchase. That I'm gonna make
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: a purchase. You said that ladybugs can't care, can give
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: rid circle, dark circles. Okay, I'm stark circles and and
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: and then it get rid of some of the fine
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: lines and wrinkles, doesn't run your eyes. That happens after
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: you become a particular age um. And then it reju
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: and ate and it restores, and it takes away a
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: layer of the dead skin that you've bring caring around
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: for so long that you did not know that you
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: were carrying around because you you know, you were exfoliating,
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: but you weren't exfoliating properly with the right ingredients. Again,
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: the ladybugs in't here is all natural? Yeah, because you
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: know I used mirror. I used mirror, and you know
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: when I used you know, and so you know, and
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: that's expensive. Okay, So it's not a portion of It's
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: not a question of money with me. It's right getting
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: the right product that that you know, just kind of
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: hold back some days, not years, just hold back some
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: days off my face. That's all. I'm just trying to
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: hold back some days. That's all to want. Okay. And
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: you're telling me I'm talking to the ladybugs. Can just
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: talking just we're gonna do. First of all, I'm gonna
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: make an order. But but I got to get the
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: word out. I'm not saying you don't have the word. Okay.
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: I do news for every Friday, goes out at nine
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: a m. Every Friday to ninety thousand of my fans.
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: Everything every Friday. Like last week I had Yolanda Adams
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: Husky Loads and Venus and Venus Williams Hub beauty line.
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: I had Kelly Rowlands and I had Erica Campbell her
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: Wig line in there. So every four, every week I
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: feature four you know, it's free. First of all, it's free.
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: Let's just later, and I feature four entrepreneurs. That's for
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: my shots about you know, entrepreneurship and entertainment and so
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: and so. I thought it would be cool to put
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: you know, friends of mine, other people I didn't know.
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: But your product is worth being it's the story being
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: told out there. And so if you can get to
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: me banner and a in a link or whatever you
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: want to drive it to, if you want to do,
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: if you want to say, or whatever you want to do,
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: I would put it in my newsletter. No charge has
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: never been a charge. It's not tied to a charge
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: because Ladybucks can't care. First of all, has me as
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: a customer right now, okay, And I want to just
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: change them to wander. I want them foolish people. Okay.
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: When I like something, I go my wife forgo cool boy.
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: We just stopped buying stuff. Hey, I like what I like? Okay, yeah,
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: it's gonna love it. I'm telling you I have so
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: many success stories and it makes me smile because that's
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: just doing your skin. That's one thing that you can
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: take by yourself and what you're being the largest organ
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: of your body and it just happens to be on
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: the outside of your body. Why not make that one
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: organ beautiful? You know, I'm so excited about Ladybugs skincare um.
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: I use it, my family uses it. Tamar uses it,
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: you know, right, and you already know Tamar the type
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: of person. Let me think country behind. Everybody don't know
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: how country is. Well, I'm gonna tell you this to one.
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: You owe me a banner. You got me as a customer.
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: I just want to first of all, thank you for
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: coming on my show, because thank you for having everybody's
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: doing my show. I feel so blest that I get
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: a person like you on my show and other other
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: talent that's coming on my show and hearing about my
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: brand and hearing how I want to just tell that story,
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: but but I was to promote their brands and promote
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: what they're doing with their life. Besides the story that
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: everybody knows you have an open break, you are an HBC,
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: you grant, you are a memory of the divine node.
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: And you are an entrepreneur, lady books can't care, and
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: more importantly, you are an actress. And thank you for
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: coming to my show to Wander Braxton. Thank you for
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: this amazing I mean by so fast like I'm well,
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: that means but you gotta give me that better, gotta
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: give me that links. I take care of you. I will.
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: I'm gonna call and make sure he sends it to you.
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- 1:21:12Speaker 1: your state Forrester, and the AD Council. My next guest.
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: He's an h B c U graduate of Hampton University.
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: He obtained his bachelor's degree in two thousand four, master's
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: degree in two thousand five, followed by his PhD. He's
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: a doctor, y'all. He has dedicated his professional career to education,
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: specializing in serving schools and organizations that serve urban and
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: culturally diverse communities. Teach, hustle, Inspire offers driven and passionate
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: educators a transformatal a transformational experience in a way that
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: is fun, engaging in life changing. Please work for the
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: money made conversation for the very first time, Dr Sean Woodley,
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: thank you so so much for having me. I'm excited
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: to be here. I'm I tell you that. Yeah, everything
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: right though, you know, you know I how to make
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: sure I brought you, brought you the forefront, right doctor,
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Man, very much appreciate that. Thank you, sir. Well,
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: we're we're we're are yet right now in this in
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: this in this country of America. We're yet right now, sir.
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: I'm not too far from you here in Atlanta, Okay, great? Great? Um.
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: You know education, I know I come from Houston, Texas,
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: born in fifth ward. Uh. My degrees in the mathematics
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: and my money and sociology, so I know they important
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: of continued education. I always tell people who always tell
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: young people just go to college and just just see
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: what college has to offer to you. How it changed
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: my life. Education changed my life. I would not be
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: talking to you because when I came out of high school, Sean,
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: I wanted to be a forklift driver and got a
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: job as a forklif driver. That was my dream because
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: that was those were my mentors. My mentors were guys
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: who don't load the trucks. From I was fifteen, sixteen
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: years old, I saw it. I went, wow, this is cool,
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: and that stayed in my mind. Despite having my best friend,
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: she Gret she went to Rice and graduated. My other
- 1:23:02Speaker 1: best friends she went to Purdue and graduate. So it
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: wasn't like I was. I was surrounded by a bunch
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: of dummies. My whole little crew was smart and I
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: was smart too, But I wanted to take the easy
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: way out, a comfortable way out. I felt, you know,
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: get to that, get to that finish line real quick.
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: But but what But that wasn't the right finish line
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: for me. So when we were talking about education, that's
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: your passion, I just wanted to tee it up for
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: how the type of conversation I'm gonna have with you
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: and we're gonna go into a lot of things and
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: these UH in this call we have today. But I
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: want to let you know the guy you're talking to
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: was the guy who who was was was not there.
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: I was not that was not motivated to pursue a
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: four year opportunity and academics and and and it changed
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: my life. So talk to us about UH. Education and
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: from your standpoint, I firmly believe that education and is
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: just really it's a key that can unlock so many
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: doors in so many different directions. One of the limiting
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: things that I'm working very very hard for, particularly in
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: urban and culturally diverse schools, as you mentioned, is exposure.
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: We need to be sure that we the bright young
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: scholars in these four walls, in the four walls of
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: these classrooms across this country are being exposed so that
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: they have something to shoot for, and education can do that.
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: What are we exposing them to? What are we allowing
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: them to see? And more importantly, what are we allowing
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: them to see and how they think into that as
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: it can be a contributing member to society. What are
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: we showing them, what are we putting them and how
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: does it connect to their everyday lives. Whether we understand
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: the value and importance of that or not, it is
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: absolutely critical. We need to make sure that we are
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: showing these students what is possible. And that's why I
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: work so hard so that they can see something to
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: shoot for. Let that service the engine that rides them,
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: whether it is that four year degree, whether it is
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: that a two year degree, whether it is a trade,
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: something beyond just going to do the quote unquote their minimum.
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: And I making sense absolutely because I always tell people that,
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: you know, you can't readport or degree. Okay, my degree
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: in that wall. Nobody's gonna come back and say, hey man,
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: you know some I'm gonna take that back. They can't
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: do that. I earned that. You know you can. You
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: can't call me stupid, you can't call me a dummy.
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: It's right there. Okay, what story are you telling that?
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: I've been recognized as a person who knows how to
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: apply himself. I'm goal oriented, okay, and I know how
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: to finish what I start. That's what the degree means
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: to me. And when I talk about when listen to
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: your passion is a passion that I didn't have because
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: I did not understand And so and we know that
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: the stop gap or the the or the jump off
- 1:25:52Speaker 1: point in this game of competition that we call in
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: this country we call America is education because it's not equal.
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: Education not equal, and so which leads to a different story.
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: And I think that private sect, private sector should come
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: in and stop trying that we should stop trying to
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: get the government to fix the situation. I feel, I
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: believe the sexual sector come in because they're the ones
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: who seek our money in movies, seek our money, android
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: phones they seek our money, and technology they seek our money,
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: and grocery stores they seek our money in so many
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: different ways. But they don't return that money to us
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: when it comes to lifestyle, when it comes to education
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: making a difference in our community, because they they've they've, they've, they've,
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: they've they've, they've developed a nice system, they keep the money.
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: They don't help out anybody but themselves, okay, And then
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: they said the government is supposed to do that. So
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: so that's one of the things that we know when
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: I look at this change in our community is civil unrest,
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: the pandemic. You know, I'm sitting down trying to create
- 1:26:53Speaker 1: an agenda, a plan of action, and the plan of
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: action is the old way ain't gonna work for the
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: new way. So we have to hit a new plan
- 1:27:04Speaker 1: in place for the new way to even have a
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: shot at working. And it has to include the private sector.
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: And that's that's a that's a statement from me. And
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: when I talked to me, to worldly people like you,
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: educated people like you, who know what I'm talking about
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: when I say education is not equal because it's tied
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: to it's tied to property tax. You know, it's tied
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: to the lot of program in each state, which doesn't
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: really do anything for education, like they say, because most
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: of the program goes most of the money goes to
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: the company that sets up a lot of and so
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: and so these things drive me. I've been fortunate. Man.
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: You can google my name and there's a lot of
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: things come up about me, and so you have you
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: have an image of who I am or idea who
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: I am? Who is Dr Shaun Woodley? Let me tell
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: you something, Dr Sean Woodley is. I'm a husband, i
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: am a father, I am a believer, and I am
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: an educator. I do a lot of things under that
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: education umbrella, but it all boils that back down to
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: being an educator. I get to leverage my creativity um
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: in what I do, and that has that fuels my
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: passion for entrepreneurship. I've been able to uniquely combine the
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: field of education and entrepreneurship to not only do what
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: I love, but serve others while doing it. It's like
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: the it's it's like a beautiful mix that allows me
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: to be who I authentically am at this while at
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: the same time giving back and contributing to society, making
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: a difference in the lives of teachers who evidently make
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: a difference in the lives of their students. That that
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: is who I am, and that is how I think.
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: That is what I believe God to give to me
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: is to give to the world. Right. You know, when
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: I when I look at your HBCU grad I said
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: that your curtis Hampton State University. You know, just tell
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: you this, doctor, Dr Sean. I get a lot of
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: HBCU Hampton guests on my show. I think it because
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: of the executive producer of the show. She graduated from
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: Hampton University. I think, really she graduated and I seem
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: to get a lot of I'm not disappointed. At end
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: of the guests I'm just telling you straight out standing
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: guests like you come on my show from Happy University.
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: But I think I think she's using my brand to
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: promote the brand of Hampton University, which is an outstand
- 1:29:34Speaker 1: at HBCU school. So tell us about your HBCU experience
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: and the value of attending a school like HBCU, school
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: like Hampton University. Let me tell you something. Hampton University
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: is my family. I stand by it, and it was
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: absolutely one of the best decisions I've ever made. The
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: reason that I ended up at Hampton or I grew
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: up in New York and my father uh raising us
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: in the church. He was a musician to Hampton University
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: every year during the summer has Ministers and Musicians conference
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: that my father attends all the time. He's the one
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: that told me about Hampton University. And this goes back
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: to what you mentioned earlier about kind of why how
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: we can promote the idea of education to the youth.
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: I was never told in high school about HBCUs, about
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: what schools like Hampton A and t Spellman Morehouse. I
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: would never exposed to those things other than what my
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: family told me. And I'm so glad that my dad
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: put that battery in my back at a young age
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: to be aware of what Hampton was doing and how
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: it could benefit me. Uh. He took me down there
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: to take the tour of the campus. We went as
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: a family, my mom, my brothers, and after that we
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: you know, I have two uh younger siblings actually three
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: excuse me, in that far HBCU attend and or graduates.
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: So like, this is something that I feel I was
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: able to set an example for them because of what
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: my dad and my mom showed me and my as
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: we like to say, my matriculation that wonderful, you know,
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: it was. It was life altering for me, if I
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: could say, because I mean what I've learned there, who
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: I met, it was it was a microcosm of just
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: really love and education, um that you yearn for that
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: you cannot get at another p w Y you can't
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: get that. I ask any HBCU crab and they'll tell
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: you about that family element that you just you can
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: you can imitate, but you can't duplicate that. I love it.
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: I love it. I'm talking to my man, Dr Sean Woodley.
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: He is a half the universe. The hbc U two
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: thousand four bachelor is good. Huh. Two thousand four bachelor's degree,
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: two thousand five master's degree, then followed up with his PhD.
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: We're gonna be back and more, talking about his brand
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: of education, his books, all those great things, and first
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: of all, he know now about money main covers. You
- 1:32:16Speaker 1: know a lot of people call my show. They call,
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: you know, people tell them it's to show the call.
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: But once they get here, I talked, they hear my past.
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: His brother right here, he's on my list now. So
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: when I called, when he when he called me to
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: be on this show, our absolutely with a Okay. They
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: took me seven years to get my degree. Uh, I
- 1:32:37Speaker 1: was arrogant. I thought I'd be in and out. But
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: what I did when I went to college, I was
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: just trying. I'm gonna tell you something, Dr Sean. I
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: was just trying to go to I was trying to
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: find an easy degree. Okay, the first four and a
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: half yield. I was looking for the easy degree. My
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: friends go, he's an easy teacher. He's an easy teacher.
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: I went to and when they had no symbtoms of
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: what they had to do with my degree plan, I
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: was trying to find easy teachers. I found them all,
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: and then I found one easy teaching in physics that
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: gave me an elf that woked me up. That woked
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: me up because they realized that you have to work.
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: Life is about working hard and being consistent. And when
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: I look at your brand, when you talk about education,
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: you have to be consistent and you have to create
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: a model that people can believe it and can use
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: to teach other people. Talk about your brain a little bit.
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: Dr Sean Sure, Sure, I'm I am preach and teach, teach, hustle,
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: inspire and and here's what it means. Teach, hustle, inspire
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: is not just three particular words that I randomly put
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: together and threw it up as a logo. They have
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: intention behind each of those. When I talk about teach,
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: it's about how we unlock our students and our own
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: intellectual treasure. That's what it means. How can we create
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: transformative learning experiences for ourselves, for our students in our classroom.
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: That hustle park, That's that's my Favorit reports that hustle
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: is about how we can't stop that won't stop learning.
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: Mr McDonald see here, and it kind of has that
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: nineties dd bad boy vibe twins to it just a
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: little bit. That's that's my personality in there, in there
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: a little bit. But how do we keep how do
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: we stay on top of the current research, How do
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: we stay on top of what we need to know
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: to continue because see, education don't stop, Education does not stop.
- 1:34:26Speaker 1: How do we continue to learn to be that the
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: best we can for ourselves and our students and that
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: inspire it means to spread love and likely what we
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: do with educators, that can be a thankless profession. Sometimes
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: with the inequities in the curriculums that we see, with
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: the inequities and distribution of funds, we sometimes we feel
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: like we're all we have. So we have to be
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: sure that we're spreading that love and like to one another,
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: pouring back into ourselves and taking care of ourselves so
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: that we can take care of our families. You can't
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: give from what out that. It's really amazing when I
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: when I think about it, you know, when we still
- 1:35:07Speaker 1: talk about unequal education and we still talk about, you know,
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: denying people an opportunity to get an equal education, and
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: that's usually tied to the community that you grow up
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: in and you're in Atlanta in the South, and you
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: know that that what you really was the reason we
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: have HBCUs because it was a time where the southern
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: schools wouldn't let a black person in the school and
- 1:35:30Speaker 1: then the northern school headquarters or limitations. So it was
- 1:35:34Speaker 1: out of necessity that we had to create these hbc
- 1:35:37Speaker 1: used which are now the backbone of education, especially for
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: African American success stores in this country today. That's one
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: of the reasons why I take the time to be
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: able to articulate the value and the need. Now when
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: you talk about education and you you you broke down
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: the whole teach, hustle, inspiral, what is it all about?
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: But how did they come about? You know what? What
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: the what? What? What Launch did? Though? Dr Sean? What
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: Launch did? That came from a need for me to
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: try and find a unique and creative way to pour
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: into the lives of educators and give back. I am.
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: I'm a speaker and consultant and you know all in
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: the under the umbrella of educating that is that is
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: what I do. I wanted to find something that could
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: connect us in the education world, something especially those of
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: us that serve in urban and culturally diverse communities because
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: there are specific challenges that we are simply at a
- 1:36:39Speaker 1: fundamental level not prepared to deal with. And again it's
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: not because something is wrong, it's just that we are
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: not prepared. So I created this with the mind with
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: the mindset of how can I help prepare dedicated and
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: talented educators to face the lenges that can arise in
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: urban and culturally diverse communities so that we can now
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: move this agenda forward and balance these scales a little bit.
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: But it really just came from my desire to what
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: to serve, to want to unite and start a movement,
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: and I just it's it's not something that I just
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: thought of one particular day to teach hustle inspire kind
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: of it seems like it came out of nowhere. But
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: what you're seeing are the results of years, years of research,
- 1:37:33Speaker 1: years of practice, and years of trial error, failing, fail again,
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: fail forward, fail some more, try it again. That's what
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: you're seeing now are the results of that. And this
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: is just the beginning. That's that's powerful words UM and
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: so those are some of the when you say obstacles,
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: you know it's one of the course over to me,
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: ums are the obstacles, Uh, disbelievers are obstacles yourself, sometimes
- 1:38:01Speaker 1: doubting whether it is this will be received. What exactly
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: are the obstacles that you're talking about. Some of the obstacles,
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: UM definitely do come in the form of self sabotage
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: and questioning whether or not you are the one that
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: should be doing this. As far as t hustle inspire,
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: inspire is concerned that that can the obstacles can start
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: from within. And if I am not careful, if I
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: am not emotionally aware enough to examine that it is
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: nothing more than just self sabotage and that I can overcome,
- 1:38:41Speaker 1: that it can be something that consumes me. But my
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: passion and desire and understanding to know that I'm called
- 1:38:49Speaker 1: to do this outweighs those obstacles and makes them speed
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: bumps at the post hurdles. So now what I can
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: do is with the understand thing that and not to
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: get churchy on you. But God doesn't call to qualify,
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: He qualifies the call. I understand that this is a
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: mission for me, and now I'm growing, and that as
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: long as I stay true to who I am and
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: what the Good Lord has for me, I can't tell us,
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: Oh no, you won't, you won't. That's why I set
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: up this show. My friend is passionate driven, and the
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: information that I give through my faith and through my passion,
- 1:39:24Speaker 1: I educate people who listen and follow my brand. So
- 1:39:27Speaker 1: we're on the same page. Now, tell us about your
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: art coming um conference for urban educators. Sure. Sure. I
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: wanted to create a unique experience called the super Teachers Summit.
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: And what happens is this is going to be a
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: unique online virtual event. We we you know, we have
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: to be cautious with everything happening coronavirus wise, about large
- 1:39:53Speaker 1: gatherings and so forth, but that still doesn't put a
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: stop on the work that needs to be done because
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: come August, except Timber, there are still children that are
- 1:40:02Speaker 1: going to need to be educated. So I wanted to
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: come up with a unique way to garner educators attention
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: to help solve some of the problems that they will
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: inevitably face. And I created this unique event to be
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: an online, interactive, virtual experience, more than just someone sitting
- 1:40:22Speaker 1: in front of a screen and then now alright, everything
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: is going in one ear and out of the other.
- 1:40:28Speaker 1: I wanted to make this a little bit more than
- 1:40:31Speaker 1: simply just your average teacher conference, if you will, And
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: so I I gave it a theme. I embedded some
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: of the research and some phenomenal speakers that I know
- 1:40:43Speaker 1: of that are really doing the work in this field.
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: And I'm putting together what I know will be a
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: Dynamites event in August. So is there a set date
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: for August yet or just August? Still planning, still planning.
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: It's going to be the first weekend in Orgust. Do
- 1:41:01Speaker 1: you want to make sure I want to be a
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: part of that. Whatever I can do to promote it
- 1:41:04Speaker 1: through my social or my newsletter goes a weekly every
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: Friday at nine am, I'll make you're part of that conversation.
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: Before I was a couple of things. But I want
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: to talk to about before we leaves. I wanted I
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: did not read your best selling book MC means Move
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: the class, How the spark engagement and motivation and urban
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: and culturally diverse classroom? Tell us about that? And then
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: I also want to close and response from you about
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: what's going on in America right now. Okay, absolutely, the
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: book for me came from my experiences teaching. I spent
- 1:41:33Speaker 1: ten years teaching in urban schools, and while doing that,
- 1:41:39Speaker 1: because I was I knew that there were things that
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I had a side hustle at
- 1:41:44Speaker 1: the DJ. So literally Ms McDonald, I would pull up
- 1:41:48Speaker 1: to the schoolyard and teach during the day and being
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: the club at night with my turn tables in the
- 1:41:53Speaker 1: literally and it was it was so fun. Yeah, I mean,
- 1:41:57Speaker 1: you talk about parties, club weddings, bar miths was barbecues.
- 1:42:02Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they had if they were paying
- 1:42:04Speaker 1: and needed music services. I was in there. And so
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: what I began to notice is that I was growing
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: as a DJ and growing as an educator simultaneously, and
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: some coincidental not my coincidental, some emerging commonalities started to
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: really make a way about both professions, about being a teacher,
- 1:42:30Speaker 1: about being in DJ, and so really that that mc see,
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: you know, back in the day when I grew, I
- 1:42:36Speaker 1: grew up on Long Island and Eric being rock camp
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: had from Eric B as president the song um excuse
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: me um, Eric B as president, not second verse where
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: our cam talks about Eric B on the cut scratching
- 1:42:51Speaker 1: the medicine no mistakes allowed, because to me MC means
- 1:42:55Speaker 1: moved the crowd and that line always stuck to me.
- 1:42:59Speaker 1: It really because what stands out about that is what
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: rock Him was telling us is that his his role
- 1:43:05Speaker 1: as an m C it's it's not just a position,
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: it's a responsibility. Mr McDonald. That's that's my responsibility to
- 1:43:12Speaker 1: move this crowd. So I took that and and with
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: that same mindset, it's my responsibility to move this class
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: and as a DJ, as a as a teacher. You know,
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: in both roles, I'm a motivator. I am the reason
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: that you're going to in this club dance, or I'm
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: the reason in this classroom you're going to learn. In
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: both roles, I curate specific content so that when in
- 1:43:37Speaker 1: the timing of winning his place to create an absolute
- 1:43:40Speaker 1: experience for either the people in the club or the
- 1:43:44Speaker 1: students in my classroom, making real time decisions, making sure
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: that I am on top of everything, and making sure
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: that I can change when needed, making those adjustments to
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: really read the crowd and feed off of that energy.
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: It becomes sick. Wow, that's hot. You know that's hot
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: because I hear the passion, I hear the planning out here.
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: It's a it's authentic, that's what I hear the most doctor,
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: and that's why, that's why, that's why it works, because
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: it's not something you made up. It's tied to a journey.
- 1:44:19Speaker 1: You know. The journey in the world that we're living
- 1:44:21Speaker 1: in right now is um I did an interview this
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: morning and I was telling them that one out of
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: one thousand black men and boys will be killed by
- 1:44:31Speaker 1: a police officer. That's one out of one thousand. That's
- 1:44:35Speaker 1: two point five times higher than white men and white boys.
- 1:44:39Speaker 1: And when people ask us, why, why the unrest, why
- 1:44:43Speaker 1: the protests, what is your response? Dr Shaun Woodley? Hello,
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: do you cannot tell the oppressed? Essentially, It's been quoted
- 1:45:04Speaker 1: and said so many times, but you can't tell the
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: oppressed how to respond to their oppression. You can't do that.
- 1:45:10Speaker 1: What you're seeing are the results of years of years
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: and years, hundreds of years of outcries, hundreds of years
- 1:45:19Speaker 1: of just simply making a plea not to be treated better,
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, for being treated the same. That's all we want, Yes,
- 1:45:27Speaker 1: that's that's at the end of the day. We just
- 1:45:29Speaker 1: wanted to be treated the same. And so now what
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: has resulted from that is the the emotional outburst of
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: the people that has been held down far too long. Absolutely,
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: I always tell people I just want my child to
- 1:45:42Speaker 1: have a better life than our hands. And I think
- 1:45:45Speaker 1: that anybody who's not my color wants the same thing.
- 1:45:47Speaker 1: So just give me my shot. But when I'm stopped by,
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: at least don't allow a lobby not to be afraid. Now,
- 1:45:53Speaker 1: allow me to not believe that this might be a
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: stop I might not drive away from. That's all I'm asking.
- 1:45:59Speaker 1: And when I say one out of one thousand, that's
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: an incredible number. Two publicly say this documented story came
- 1:46:06Speaker 1: out of the Los Angeles time. I read it and
- 1:46:08Speaker 1: been have and I've been horrified ever since. Dr Sean
- 1:46:11Speaker 1: would let I hope you enjoyed coming on my show.
- 1:46:14Speaker 1: It's a it's a journey. It's a journey about it's
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: your journey. I wanted to share with my listeners on
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- 1:46:21Speaker 1: uh and when the when the conference comes out, the
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- 1:48:15Speaker 1: is a comedy legend. I could only put it like that.
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: He is a legend. I had a good fortune of
- 1:48:19Speaker 1: meeting him several times when I managed Steve Harvey, and
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: he made a surprise visit on stage when I was
- 1:48:24Speaker 1: producing BT's Comic Views, so I know him well. He
- 1:48:27Speaker 1: makes his Netflix original comedy special premiere with We'll Do
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: It for Half, I saw twice as brilliantly funny. He's
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: an entrepreneur with restaurants based on authentic Mexican cuisine from
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: his grandmother's traditional recipes. He has toured with some of
- 1:48:39Speaker 1: my favorite comedians like Adie Griffin, D. L. Hugley and
- 1:48:42Speaker 1: Cedric the Entertainer, And mostly importantly, he is a trailblazer.
- 1:48:46Speaker 1: When he's started his self produced ABC sitcom, he stand
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: up comedy specials, examins race, ethnic relations, and especially the
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: Mexican American culture. Please welcome to money making Conversations, my man,
- 1:48:56Speaker 1: George Lopez. How are your voice? Man? You know? Uh,
- 1:49:02Speaker 1: I saw this specially to me a little links so
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: I can see it early. Is I want to make
- 1:49:05Speaker 1: sure I saw it before I interviewed you. And uh,
- 1:49:07Speaker 1: how you did to Joe it? Okay? First of all,
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: what somebody calls you a comedy legend? What is that?
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: How do you feel with somebody says that about you?
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: You know, I mean it's it's so if they were
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: if there were doctors, you know, there's so many different
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: doctors and different in different variety of fields. You know,
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: so someone would say, you know, he's a scientist, he's
- 1:49:26Speaker 1: a biotech science, he's a heart doctor, he's a brain surgeony,
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: this guy's a dentist. This guy's a general practitioner O B.
- 1:49:33Speaker 1: G y N you know, oncologist. So I look at
- 1:49:37Speaker 1: myself as almost a bit of a multi faceted doctor.
- 1:49:42Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that on this sporting
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: one year journey that I did. You know, I grew
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: up very alone. I grew up without a male figure.
- 1:49:53Speaker 1: I never knew my father, I didn't know my mother.
- 1:49:57Speaker 1: My grandparents were very you know, removed from me, and
- 1:50:00Speaker 1: you know, there was just something growing up that made
- 1:50:04Speaker 1: me feel like I was different than everybody else, not better,
- 1:50:08Speaker 1: just different. And I couldn't put my finger on it,
- 1:50:12Speaker 1: but it was that feeling of being different or having
- 1:50:15Speaker 1: a better instinct than everybody that surrounded me that made
- 1:50:19Speaker 1: me do something that was probably the most terrifying thing
- 1:50:23Speaker 1: anybody could ever do, and do it for years without
- 1:50:27Speaker 1: ever seeing any improvement. So legend in the mind of
- 1:50:32Speaker 1: of of the people, but just somebody who you know,
- 1:50:36Speaker 1: worked hard to create a different narrative than the narrative
- 1:50:41Speaker 1: that I saw. I let me tell you some being
- 1:50:43Speaker 1: a former stand up comic, did they have comedy jam
- 1:50:45Speaker 1: did all the all the comedy specials? Myself, I've been
- 1:50:48Speaker 1: blessed like that. So when I saw your special, and
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: I've seen your specials in the in the past, where
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: one of your funny, but all these specials are funny,
- 1:50:55Speaker 1: one of them that really made me laugh with when you,
- 1:50:56Speaker 1: I think Cedric entertained was backstage and when you ended
- 1:50:59Speaker 1: this show, you crawled through your your name to get
- 1:51:02Speaker 1: off stage. Man, that last so hard on that with
- 1:51:06Speaker 1: Joe Hodge. What was running through your mind? That was funny, dude? Well,
- 1:51:10Speaker 1: you know we that that one. We did live at
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: the Kennedy Center. I was there for Eddie Murphy's March Twain.
- 1:51:16Speaker 1: And then as I stood there and I got a
- 1:51:18Speaker 1: couple of jokes off and I got a huge response,
- 1:51:20Speaker 1: I thought, you know, if I'm gonna do my HBO,
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: specially they wanted to do it and broad Away you
- 1:51:25Speaker 1: couldn't find a theater. But then being there at Eddie Place,
- 1:51:28Speaker 1: I thought, you know, like this room, it's a perfect size,
- 1:51:32Speaker 1: it's a great place. You know. Politically where we were
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: with the wall and then everybody was a shade of
- 1:51:40Speaker 1: having the American flag upside down because upside down means distress.
- 1:51:46Speaker 1: And as we had a meeting months before the production,
- 1:51:50Speaker 1: because I had to start to build the set, we
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: were under an agreement that the director, Troy Miller, who's
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: an incredible director, to the arrest of development crazy stuff,
- 1:51:58Speaker 1: that we told him that we weren't gonna put the
- 1:52:01Speaker 1: flag upside down, but he said, hell, no, man, We're
- 1:52:05Speaker 1: putting the flag upside down. So it wasn't until I
- 1:52:07Speaker 1: got there that day to rehearse that. We noticed that
- 1:52:10Speaker 1: the flag was upside down, and then he said, hey, Jean,
- 1:52:14Speaker 1: you know at the end of your show, you should
- 1:52:16Speaker 1: crawl under the wall here. I said, under that, yeah said,
- 1:52:22Speaker 1: and and I did it about it, man, I'm telling
- 1:52:25Speaker 1: you so. Man, I laughed so I wouldn't grab my
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: wife and played that back to look at this food.
- 1:52:29Speaker 1: He he crawled under his name under the wall, and
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: then backstage said he was laughing bad. That was just
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, legendary stuff, man, because that's
- 1:52:38Speaker 1: a stand up you know. I know the pressure it
- 1:52:42Speaker 1: takes to be able to go on stage be original.
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: And when I look at you, when I watched this special, man,
- 1:52:47Speaker 1: this is my This is what I say about stand up.
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: When I look at a special, I go wow, I
- 1:52:52Speaker 1: would never thought of that joke. I wouldn't never thought
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: that joke. And that that's your special, man, and in
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: its own Netflix, and it's your very first one on
- 1:53:00Speaker 1: them Netflix. And we'll do it for half and and
- 1:53:03Speaker 1: just tell us about the whole process of getting it
- 1:53:05Speaker 1: over to Netflix and and taping it in San Francisco. Well,
- 1:53:09Speaker 1: you know, let me say, let me say this before
- 1:53:11Speaker 1: you because you just stand up. So one thing I
- 1:53:13Speaker 1: think inherited and everyone is some people everybody has a
- 1:53:17Speaker 1: sense of humor, whether they take themselves too serious, or
- 1:53:21Speaker 1: they need to lighten up, or they're dry. One of
- 1:53:24Speaker 1: the things about about comedy and comedians is even the
- 1:53:29Speaker 1: odds of even getting a little bit of light shown
- 1:53:32Speaker 1: on you is so nearly impossible. But you know, there's
- 1:53:37Speaker 1: so many guys that I saw growing up, and that
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: I saw in the clubs in the eighties, nineties, in
- 1:53:43Speaker 1: the last twenty years that were so good, that we're
- 1:53:47Speaker 1: so clever, that we're great writers, and whatever fortune, whatever fate,
- 1:53:52Speaker 1: didn't let anything shine on those guys. And as as
- 1:53:55Speaker 1: much as the world needs drafter, there's a whole group
- 1:53:59Speaker 1: of idiots who are incredibly funny that no one will
- 1:54:04Speaker 1: ever hear of. That's why whatever you do, do it
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: because you love it. Because you know there's no guarantee
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: that you're not gonna be one of those cats that
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: gets any love. But if you feel good about what
- 1:54:15Speaker 1: you do, then that's already becoming a success. You know successes,
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: and like everybody knows your name, people see you. Yeah,
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: that that's great. But the one thing is that you
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: never loosen You're never loosening your grip on something that
- 1:54:31Speaker 1: you can't really get a grip on, Like I think
- 1:54:33Speaker 1: you work harder when you get a little love and
- 1:54:35Speaker 1: you start to do theaters and you start to do
- 1:54:37Speaker 1: arena and you start to meet the people that you
- 1:54:39Speaker 1: started to to meet on the way up. I've seen
- 1:54:41Speaker 1: a lot of guys stayed out, but I always work
- 1:54:44Speaker 1: the hardest when I had my show, when I had
- 1:54:47Speaker 1: my top show, when I had the specials. So it's
- 1:54:51Speaker 1: just been something that I've never been able to relinquish.
- 1:54:53Speaker 1: So going to San Francisco and go into the war
- 1:54:56Speaker 1: Field and knowing the history of it, knowing that Jimmy
- 1:54:59Speaker 1: Henders lay there, Janni's, Joplin, Santana, the Ravana, the gates,
- 1:55:03Speaker 1: your bed, everybody that's anybody's been in there, and you
- 1:55:07Speaker 1: know you can do it anywhere, but when you do
- 1:55:11Speaker 1: it in a place that has historical significant. Going to
- 1:55:15Speaker 1: be Apollo. Chris Spencer asked me to do this thing
- 1:55:18Speaker 1: at the Apollo, and going there. It may not mean
- 1:55:21Speaker 1: anything to anybody else, that's not for me to decide,
- 1:55:25Speaker 1: But what it meant to me to be on stage
- 1:55:27Speaker 1: with the Apollo to go to the road thill to
- 1:55:29Speaker 1: go do Radio City is beyond you know, anybody's true
- 1:55:34Speaker 1: imagination or level of appreciation. I'm just I'm just kind
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: of honored to be able to do the things that
- 1:55:41Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do, you know, And and and
- 1:55:43Speaker 1: thank you for explaining that, because I remember I was
- 1:55:46Speaker 1: producing bats Comic View and you may not even remember this,
- 1:55:50Speaker 1: and the Anthony Brown was hosting that that run Betis
- 1:55:53Speaker 1: Comic View and you came and uh, and we're trying
- 1:55:55Speaker 1: to get you to go on stage. Oh no, it's
- 1:55:57Speaker 1: not my thing. It's not my thing, you know, as y'all.
- 1:55:59Speaker 1: I'm just here to watch and just wash everybody good luck.
- 1:56:02Speaker 1: And I remember we got you to go on stage,
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: and you walked on stage, we introduced you, and the
- 1:56:06Speaker 1: whole room of black people stood up and gave you
- 1:56:09Speaker 1: a standard ovation. And that to me, you know, because
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: you know, you're always famous with your group, you know,
- 1:56:15Speaker 1: like you know, like jeffs I felt he famous with
- 1:56:17Speaker 1: his crowd, and you know, and you you established your
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: brand of just being a funny guy. But in my mind,
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: the mex American culture was your was your was your
- 1:56:25Speaker 1: home rock. And when I walked when I saw you
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: walk out that charge, and these black people stood off
- 1:56:31Speaker 1: because you know, black people just like Hispanics, you know,
- 1:56:34Speaker 1: they don't they don't give it up unless they respect it, okay.
- 1:56:37Speaker 1: And when they walked out there and gave you a
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: standard ovation, man, I went, this dude got it, man,
- 1:56:42Speaker 1: he got something extra going on in his life. And
- 1:56:45Speaker 1: I just I just That's why I called you a legend, man,
- 1:56:47Speaker 1: because when you cross all these different lanes man with respect,
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: that's beautiful, dude, that's beautiful. You know. You know I
- 1:56:56Speaker 1: was my grandmother raised me. My grandmother was in my
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: that would say, you know, my grandmother was was actually insensitive,
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: like like your grandmother's and everybody's grandmothers recially insensitive. So
- 1:57:07Speaker 1: part of my material is about her relationship with African
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: American people and then coming to the door, not opening
- 1:57:14Speaker 1: the door, her relationship with black people, saying you know what,
- 1:57:18Speaker 1: Like I said, I said, my first girlfriend, here's a
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: here's a true story. And it hurts and it's still
- 1:57:26Speaker 1: funny to this day. Like when I was in seventh grade,
- 1:57:29Speaker 1: there was this girl that looked like get Christie Love.
- 1:57:32Speaker 1: She was in seventh grade. Her name was Christina Husky fro,
- 1:57:36Speaker 1: light skinned, tall, beautiful, and she liked me, and all
- 1:57:40Speaker 1: my friends gave me a hard time, and I would
- 1:57:42Speaker 1: walk with her to class and and I, you know,
- 1:57:45Speaker 1: I dug her and she was cool. She lived on
- 1:57:48Speaker 1: the other side of the street from where I lived,
- 1:57:50Speaker 1: the main street, And one day I was walking home
- 1:57:53Speaker 1: with her and my grandmother, I guess must have got
- 1:57:55Speaker 1: off work early and saw me and roll the one
- 1:58:00Speaker 1: down and hunkle horn and did a U turn on
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: San Frando mission, roll the window down and said, hey, shat,
- 1:58:07Speaker 1: which your ass home? To call me shat? When I
- 1:58:11Speaker 1: was walking with this African American girl, i' how to funk? You?
- 1:58:14Speaker 1: You what? Who shaft was? But she's like a shot
- 1:58:17Speaker 1: get home, you know? And she fripped out. So I said,
- 1:58:21Speaker 1: so what what if I like the black girl? So oh,
- 1:58:23Speaker 1: I no, No, I said, what what? What? Why? Why
- 1:58:25Speaker 1: is it your concerned? She goes, because I don't like her?
- 1:58:28Speaker 1: And if you do, they're gonna see me with you,
- 1:58:30Speaker 1: and they're gonna think I like him and I don't.
- 1:58:32Speaker 1: I mean That's how she thought. And then and then
- 1:58:35Speaker 1: and then in school, Christina came over to me one
- 1:58:39Speaker 1: day and said she didn't feel that I should spend
- 1:58:42Speaker 1: any more time with her because people wouldn't get it,
- 1:58:45Speaker 1: and it was just becoming an issue, and and and
- 1:58:48Speaker 1: we I never walked her to class. I never walked
- 1:58:50Speaker 1: her home from school after that. And you know, when
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: I was a young kid, still made quite an impression
- 1:58:56Speaker 1: on me. But um, you know, in order to look
- 1:58:59Speaker 1: at end up as all of the stand up, being
- 1:59:03Speaker 1: racially insensitive to different groups, especially Latinos, was part of
- 1:59:07Speaker 1: my mix. So you can't pull one thing out and say,
- 1:59:11Speaker 1: you know, he's racist towards African American people when I've
- 1:59:14Speaker 1: said worst things about everybody else. One of the things
- 1:59:16Speaker 1: that made Richard Pryor, or did Gregory or you know,
- 1:59:21Speaker 1: George Carlin, or made anybody you Steve Cedric d l
- 1:59:26Speaker 1: Eddie Griffin, who makes anybody anything is not if you're
- 1:59:30Speaker 1: gonna shoot the gun, shoot the gun. Don't hold the
- 1:59:33Speaker 1: gun and not shoot it. Then put the gun down.
- 1:59:36Speaker 1: So in comedy, if you're gonna take the shot, take
- 1:59:39Speaker 1: the shot. Don't dance around the shot. Don't don't don't
- 1:59:43Speaker 1: don't hamm and hall. Don't look at an audience and
- 1:59:46Speaker 1: say I can't do that. You know, there's so many
- 1:59:48Speaker 1: people that I can't do that. The honesty is who
- 1:59:51Speaker 1: gets the respect and and the legacy is somebody never
- 1:59:55Speaker 1: pulling a punch. Now I'm talking to George Lopez, the
- 1:59:58Speaker 1: brilliant George lopayers. He has a Netflix special that's coming
- 2:00:01Speaker 1: out of June Tuesday, June thirtie. It's called We'll Do
- 2:00:05Speaker 1: It for Half. We'll Do It for Half. When I
- 2:00:08Speaker 1: started your interview, George, I told you I watched your
- 2:00:10Speaker 1: special twice, okay, and this is why I watched this.
- 2:00:13Speaker 1: But first of all, I enjoyed it. And then I remember,
- 2:00:15Speaker 1: you know, as we all were in the beginning, we
- 2:00:18Speaker 1: just won't get a stage, so we tell some jokes
- 2:00:20Speaker 1: so we could be funny. That's the goal, just to
- 2:00:22Speaker 1: be funny. Go from the opener to a middle act
- 2:00:24Speaker 1: to a headline, to get that get that first class
- 2:00:27Speaker 1: ticket and you you're traveling, and all that good stuff
- 2:00:29Speaker 1: and anything else that comes along is a blessing. Okay,
- 2:00:32Speaker 1: that's stuff that's the life of a stand up of
- 2:00:34Speaker 1: the average stand up comic in this country right now. Now,
- 2:00:38Speaker 1: then I want your website, and I saw your brand,
- 2:00:42Speaker 1: I saw restaurants, I saw blue halls, I saw your foundation,
- 2:00:49Speaker 1: I saw COVID nineteen face mask. I so we can't
- 2:00:52Speaker 1: breathe T shirts and so so now when I look
- 2:00:56Speaker 1: and I said, then, then I looked at your special
- 2:00:58Speaker 1: again and I put into perspective all that weight that
- 2:01:01Speaker 1: you're now carrying on stage with you now when you're performing.
- 2:01:05Speaker 1: So in the beginning, you didn't carry all that weight.
- 2:01:08Speaker 1: Employees and COVID and eighteen and all that stuff. All
- 2:01:12Speaker 1: that's going on stage with you now, and that's a
- 2:01:15Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand that. To be funny man
- 2:01:18Speaker 1: under that amount of global understanding. Gave me a truly
- 2:01:22Speaker 1: different perspective and appreciated your comment even more when I
- 2:01:26Speaker 1: saw it the second time. You understand where I'm coming from.
- 2:01:29Speaker 1: It's absolutely you know, um uh, I think everybody like me.
- 2:01:35Speaker 1: When my show started. You know, my show wasn't a
- 2:01:38Speaker 1: huge shit, but it did a hundred and twenty episodes.
- 2:01:41Speaker 1: That did you know five and a half years on ABC,
- 2:01:44Speaker 1: which I had a company, But that was the family
- 2:01:46Speaker 1: show with an edge. But I'm gonna tell you right
- 2:01:49Speaker 1: now that I lost a lot of people, including people
- 2:01:52Speaker 1: when I started to vocalize and I started to have
- 2:01:56Speaker 1: my opinion on issues, but also at the Grammys and
- 2:02:00Speaker 1: two thousand eight Senator two thousand and eight. The election
- 2:02:02Speaker 1: was in November of eight. Chris Rock called me on
- 2:02:06Speaker 1: a Monday after the Grammars had said, can I give
- 2:02:09Speaker 1: Barack Obama your telephone number because he wants to ask you,
- 2:02:13Speaker 1: you know, something about your support Hillary Clinton's office had
- 2:02:16Speaker 1: sent a fact to the office, very impersonal, and I said, sure.
- 2:02:24Speaker 1: So I'm watching CNN at one fifty two. Barack Obama's campaigning,
- 2:02:29Speaker 1: he's a senator, and it's a one fifty five and
- 2:02:32Speaker 1: he's leaving. And I said, there's no way that this
- 2:02:35Speaker 1: guy is gonna call me at two o'clock. If I'm
- 2:02:38Speaker 1: watching CNN and he's leaving an event, there's no way
- 2:02:42Speaker 1: call call at two thirty or three two o'clock. Phone
- 2:02:46Speaker 1: rings low, Uh, George Alta, Yes, hold for the Senator.
- 2:02:51Speaker 1: Garri's Barack Obama. Hey, I saw the Yeah, yeah, I said.
- 2:02:55Speaker 1: He said, listen, I don't know where you are politically,
- 2:02:57Speaker 1: but you know Latino vote means a lot to me.
- 2:03:00Speaker 1: I think the communities have a lot in common. I said, listen, man,
- 2:03:02Speaker 1: you know I will help you. And then I did
- 2:03:06Speaker 1: what maybe was the most difficult thing to do in Texas,
- 2:03:11Speaker 1: in South Texas is I would go to these theaters
- 2:03:14Speaker 1: and people would be lined up to see me twice
- 2:03:16Speaker 1: in an afternoon. I would talk about half an hour
- 2:03:19Speaker 1: to be a political to mayor, and they'd be some
- 2:03:21Speaker 1: political speeches, and I would go to a half hour,
- 2:03:24Speaker 1: maybe four or five minutes, and then I would say
- 2:03:27Speaker 1: that I'm gonna support a Barack Obama. And they would
- 2:03:30Speaker 1: boo and they would yell and they would hiss, and
- 2:03:34Speaker 1: I would be like, listen, listen, listen this, wait a minute,
- 2:03:36Speaker 1: hang out a second. They would walk out on me,
- 2:03:39Speaker 1: and and I kept on the message. I stayed and
- 2:03:42Speaker 1: I started to say, listen, you know, I will vote
- 2:03:44Speaker 1: for somebody just because she's not African American. And that's
- 2:03:48Speaker 1: how you go by the same beer every time because
- 2:03:51Speaker 1: your dad brought it, bought it, by the same soup
- 2:03:53Speaker 1: because your mom bought it. I said, there's choices, and
- 2:03:56Speaker 1: we shouldn't just follow it. Man. It was the most
- 2:03:59Speaker 1: deaf called to have your own people turn on you
- 2:04:05Speaker 1: for your political stance of getting someone who's different, who's
- 2:04:09Speaker 1: African American. A lot of there's a lot of racial
- 2:04:12Speaker 1: division between our cultures as well, and they just they
- 2:04:16Speaker 1: just didn't get it until I kept doing it and
- 2:04:19Speaker 1: he started to do it. But at one time in
- 2:04:21Speaker 1: New Mexico, we had a rally out there about you
- 2:04:24Speaker 1: of them, and they tore the gates down trying to
- 2:04:27Speaker 1: get and they expected twenty thou people. That's fifty thou
- 2:04:30Speaker 1: people out there. Wow, you know they're learning around. It's
- 2:04:35Speaker 1: amazing thing. And when I'm talking to you, I'm talking
- 2:04:38Speaker 1: to I'm almost talking to a historian. Okay, that's a
- 2:04:41Speaker 1: compliment right there, because when you said forty one years
- 2:04:44Speaker 1: of comedy, man, because we are people. People understand by
- 2:04:47Speaker 1: comedy community is good comedians. We really just document things
- 2:04:50Speaker 1: and did we twist them on stage, But we really
- 2:04:52Speaker 1: are telling the truth in a way if you just
- 2:04:55Speaker 1: really broke down what we were saying, we just making
- 2:04:57Speaker 1: just make it, make it funny because we made real
- 2:04:59Speaker 1: short left the right turns, and that's where the humor
- 2:05:01Speaker 1: comes from. But we're really just telling you the truth.
- 2:05:04Speaker 1: And when I when I look at COVID nineteen, if
- 2:05:06Speaker 1: you don't mind me talking about right quick, it's affecting
- 2:05:09Speaker 1: the Hispanic community of Latino community and the black community
- 2:05:13Speaker 1: is being devastated by the COVID nineteen and then I
- 2:05:15Speaker 1: went on the website and I was so happy to
- 2:05:17Speaker 1: see that you are doing your part providing COVID nineteen
- 2:05:21Speaker 1: face masks. How did you get into that and what
- 2:05:23Speaker 1: motivated you to participate at that level. Well, first of all,
- 2:05:27Speaker 1: you know we're not and and let's not even go
- 2:05:30Speaker 1: in to talk about medical and our medical conditions. So
- 2:05:34Speaker 1: I had a kidney transplant in two thousands five from
- 2:05:37Speaker 1: when I was married by my wife An gave it
- 2:05:39Speaker 1: to me. But this was stuff that should have been
- 2:05:41Speaker 1: detected when I was a child. I went to bed,
- 2:05:44Speaker 1: you know, kids went the bed, you know, And instead
- 2:05:47Speaker 1: of saying that maybe there's something wrong, because there was
- 2:05:49Speaker 1: something wrong, I just didn't do it because I drank
- 2:05:51Speaker 1: so much water I couldn't keep that in. And I
- 2:05:53Speaker 1: mean I had a narrow year. I was born early,
- 2:05:56Speaker 1: went undetected. I could have had both my original kidneys.
- 2:06:00Speaker 1: If I had come from a culture where when somebody
- 2:06:03Speaker 1: went to bed, you take him to the doctor. If
- 2:06:05Speaker 1: I would have had a bottle, I had an m
- 2:06:07Speaker 1: R I or something, I could have saved myself. So
- 2:06:11Speaker 1: so the fact that we ignore situations of our health
- 2:06:14Speaker 1: until clearly we can't get out of bed. I knew
- 2:06:17Speaker 1: something was wrong. So so with colvid and and and
- 2:06:21Speaker 1: uh compromise immune system, and knowing that that it could
- 2:06:25Speaker 1: spread the family and that it's invisible, then that you
- 2:06:28Speaker 1: had to take it serious. It was a no brainer, man,
- 2:06:30Speaker 1: to to get involved in the mass, to donate money
- 2:06:33Speaker 1: to charity, to try to get people the mass as well.
- 2:06:37Speaker 1: But also, you know, let's talk about D. L. Hugley,
- 2:06:39Speaker 1: who uh go ahead, uh asymptomatic, So you look at
- 2:06:45Speaker 1: pre existing conditions. But also I said this, you know,
- 2:06:48Speaker 1: and I haven't talked to him about this, but I
- 2:06:50Speaker 1: just feel like, as as you never want to fall
- 2:06:54Speaker 1: out on stage, you never want to fall out anywhere.
- 2:06:56Speaker 1: Could have been driving, could have been anywhere. That may
- 2:06:59Speaker 1: have been the best thing for him personally, because if
- 2:07:03Speaker 1: it had happened in the hotel room, he probably would
- 2:07:05Speaker 1: have thought, I'm fatigued, I didn't eat. I've been traveling
- 2:07:09Speaker 1: and and and look past the COVID until maybe it
- 2:07:13Speaker 1: was further along and now it was more serious. So
- 2:07:17Speaker 1: he raises the fact that he sat out in Nashville.
- 2:07:21Speaker 1: A larger issue is that maybe we shouldn't be rushing
- 2:07:24Speaker 1: back to the clubs as comedians and as an audience
- 2:07:27Speaker 1: because this is a real, real thing and as hard
- 2:07:32Speaker 1: as it is to get by because a lot of
- 2:07:33Speaker 1: us don't have disposed income. You only have one life,
- 2:07:37Speaker 1: and that's the life that you need to protect. I
- 2:07:39Speaker 1: was right talking to George Lopez. Is Comedy Special examines
- 2:07:42Speaker 1: race ethnic relations, especially they have Mexican American culture. Anything
- 2:07:46Speaker 1: different than this special there's air and on Netflix up
- 2:07:49Speaker 1: on June. George Lopez, you know, I think just being
- 2:07:52Speaker 1: incredibly funny. You're being funny in that, dude, you and
- 2:07:55Speaker 1: I want to take you too special. You do one
- 2:07:57Speaker 1: in English and you do one in Spanish. You know that, right,
- 2:08:00Speaker 1: that's true? What yea? So? So I think I think
- 2:08:03Speaker 1: creating the narrative of the uncle that was like going
- 2:08:06Speaker 1: to the doctor at Gangerine and Astralia commune disease and
- 2:08:09Speaker 1: our disease, creating a also ego also, you know, using
- 2:08:15Speaker 1: wanting to know where all the food comes from, uh,
- 2:08:18Speaker 1: wanting to be in other people's business. All this whole
- 2:08:22Speaker 1: thing about parents and all these people, if they have
- 2:08:25Speaker 1: one thing consistently is they're all older white women. Because
- 2:08:30Speaker 1: everybody else has found a way to mind your own business.
- 2:08:33Speaker 1: When I was married. I was married to a woman
- 2:08:35Speaker 1: that if she saw a kid without a parent and
- 2:08:39Speaker 1: the parent was sitting down two feet away, She's like,
- 2:08:41Speaker 1: you shouldn't leave your kid unattended, usaid, and you're gonna
- 2:08:44Speaker 1: get knocked out, you know, minding your own business. So
- 2:08:47Speaker 1: we as a culture mind our own business. But when
- 2:08:50Speaker 1: someone thinks they're superior to you, they don't have a
- 2:08:53Speaker 1: problem walking up to you in a restaurant when you're
- 2:08:55Speaker 1: eating asking why you're not wearing a mask. But if
- 2:08:57Speaker 1: someone sees me, or sees any buddy of color and
- 2:09:00Speaker 1: a convenience store and you're starting to throw a word around,
- 2:09:04Speaker 1: you started to throw some disrespect, you're gonna take. You're
- 2:09:07Speaker 1: gonna take a twoth piece combo right by the five
- 2:09:10Speaker 1: hour energy drinks and those vitamins that can stop your heart.
- 2:09:18Speaker 1: You're too much, man, too much, You're too much. Everyone,
- 2:09:21Speaker 1: every one of those leagues has taken what they deserved.
- 2:09:25Speaker 1: They go back to your taking floss like a like
- 2:09:30Speaker 1: a heavy bag. Yes, yes, yes, my man, I appreciate you.
- 2:09:35Speaker 1: George Lopez, man uh, I just wanted to talk to
- 2:09:37Speaker 1: you man on this on my show, and UH can
- 2:09:40Speaker 1: come from a different It is the fastest whatever I think. Yeah,
- 2:09:47Speaker 1: it really is. It's like twenty three minutes right now.
- 2:09:49Speaker 1: But I just want to let you know, just when
- 2:09:50Speaker 1: people come on money, make a conversation. Man, I have
- 2:09:52Speaker 1: no agenda, but your greatness need to be discussed. I
- 2:09:55Speaker 1: just want to let people hear a little bit of you.
- 2:09:57Speaker 1: You because there's a man behind those shakes. Let me
- 2:10:01Speaker 1: say that. Let me say that, you know, the restaurants
- 2:10:03Speaker 1: and the beer and all that stuff came to me
- 2:10:05Speaker 1: as an opportunity. You know. If there's one thing that
- 2:10:08Speaker 1: we have is we have an imaginative mind. You can
- 2:10:11Speaker 1: be an inventor and come from no place. Everybody who's
- 2:10:13Speaker 1: an in mentor has come from from not from wealth.
- 2:10:16Speaker 1: They come from their own idea. If you have an
- 2:10:18Speaker 1: idea for an invention or something you think is different,
- 2:10:22Speaker 1: don't just live with that idea. Look online, look for
- 2:10:25Speaker 1: these places. Look for a place, because listen, the strangest
- 2:10:29Speaker 1: things can happen to you. Nothing is impossible. And if
- 2:10:32Speaker 1: you have an idea that you think is relevant and
- 2:10:35Speaker 1: it's good, somebody will find that idea. If you reach
- 2:10:39Speaker 1: out and say I have this great idea for something
- 2:10:43Speaker 1: that's true, that's very true, that's very few George Lopez.
- 2:10:45Speaker 1: I don't want to hold you, but man, thank you
- 2:10:47Speaker 1: for taking the time to come on Money Making Conversation
- 2:10:49Speaker 1: and speaking to me. Rashan McDonald my brother, Stay safe,
- 2:10:52Speaker 1: and I will be promoting you throughout my social media
- 2:10:54Speaker 1: and my fan club because people need to know whom
- 2:10:57Speaker 1: you are. Brother, your star, man, you a legend, your
- 2:10:59Speaker 1: accommodation to appreciate. Be safe now, okay, appreciate appreciate it.
- 2:11:05Speaker 1: If you want to hear more Money Making Conversation interviews,
- 2:11:07Speaker 1: please go to Money Mating Conversation dot com. I'm ra
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