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Cultivating Success: The Journey of Novice Black Educators · The Wheelhouse

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This
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season's
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theme,
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Open
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Doors
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and
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Unlimited
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Possibilities,
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isn't
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just
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for
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students.
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It
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starts
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with
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the
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educators
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who
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guide
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them.
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What
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does
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it
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take
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to
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hold
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the
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door
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open
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long
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enough
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for
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novice
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black
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teachers
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not
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just
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to
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survive,
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but
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to
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thrive?
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Let's
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find
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out.
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A
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new
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episode
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of
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the
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Wheelhouse
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begins
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right
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now.
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Thank
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you
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so
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much
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for
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taking
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time
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out
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of
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your
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busy
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day
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to
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give
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us
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a
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listen.
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Season
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10
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features
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a
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team
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of
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four
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like
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minded
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friends
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and
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colleagues,
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Kathy
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Mone,
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Michael
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Pipa,
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Dr.
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Alicia
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Munro
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and
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yours
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truly.
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We've
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opened
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the
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conversation
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this
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season
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to
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think
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about
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empowering
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educators
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to
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cultivate
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open
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doors
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and
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unlimited
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possibilities.
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You
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know,
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the
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Wheelhouse
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exists
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to
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create
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an
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inclusive
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community
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of
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empowered
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educators
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who
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believe
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that
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together
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we
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can
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disrupt
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the
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transactional
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herding
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nature
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of
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schooling
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to
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create
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districts,
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schools
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and
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classrooms
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where
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each
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student
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feels
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confident,
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optimistic,
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capable,
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well
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supported
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and
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emboldened
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to
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be
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and
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to
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become
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who
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they're
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meant
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to
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be.
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Episodes
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of
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the
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Wheelhouse
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will
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explore
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bodies
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of
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knowledge
1:28
and
1:28
expertise
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that
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align
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to
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this
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vision
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and
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to
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these
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guiding
1:32
principles.
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Our
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team
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and
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our
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guests
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are
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committed
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to
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this
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fundamental
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challenge
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to
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realize
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what
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we
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want
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for
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each
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student
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to
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experience
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in
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school.
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In
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today's
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episode,
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we
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welcome
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Dr.
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Kesha
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Chandler,
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an
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executive
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education
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leader,
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researcher
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and
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advocate
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for
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innovation
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in
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K12
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learning.
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With
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more
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than
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two
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decades
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of
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experience
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as
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a
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teacher,
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coach
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and
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systems
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level
1:58
strategist,
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she's
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dedicated
2:00
her
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career
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to
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strengthening
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literacy,
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leadership
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development
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and
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equitable
2:05
learning
2:06
environments
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across
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schools
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and
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districts
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nationwide.
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Dr.
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Chandler
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has
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previously
2:11
served
2:12
in
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leadership
2:12
roles
2:13
with
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the
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D.C.
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public
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Schools,
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the
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Leadership
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Academy
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and
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ASCD
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where
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she
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designed
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large
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scale
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professional
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learning
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ecosystems
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that
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that
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impacted
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tens
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of
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thousands
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of
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educators.
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She
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also
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serves
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on
2:26
the
2:26
graduate
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faculty
2:28
at
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Trinity
2:28
Washington
2:29
University
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where
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she
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teaches
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courses
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in
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reading,
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children's
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literature
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and
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assessments
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preparing
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the
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next
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generation
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of
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K12
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leaders.
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A
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published
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scholar
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and
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frequent
2:40
speaker
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at
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national
2:41
conferences,
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Dr.
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Chandler
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brings
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a
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unique
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blend
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of
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classroom
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experience,
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research
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expertise
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and
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systemic
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leadership
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to
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the
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conversation
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about
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how
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schools
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can
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transform
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to
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meet
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the
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needs
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of
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students
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and
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educators
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today.
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We'll
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focus
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our
2:59
conversation
3:00
in
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this
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episode
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on
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her
3:01
research
3:02
the
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One
3:03
Room
3:03
Schoolhouse,
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which
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explores
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the
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retention
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of
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novice
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black
3:07
teachers
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and
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the
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systemic
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factors
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that
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shape
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their
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first
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years
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in
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the
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profession.
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This
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work
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spotlights
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advancing
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the
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conditions
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under
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which
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teachers
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thrive
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and
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how
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we
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ought
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to
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reimagine
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schools
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as
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places
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that
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cultivate
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both
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student
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and
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educator
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success.
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And
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now,
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episode
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10
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and
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a
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great
3:31
conversation
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with
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Dr.
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Keisha
3:33
Chandler
3:34
and
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our
3:34
Wheelhouse
3:35
team,
3:35
Kathy
3:36
mone,
3:36
Michael
3:37
Pipa,
3:37
Dr.
3:38
Alicia
3:38
Monroe
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and
3:39
me.
3:40
You're
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not
3:40
going
3:40
to
3:40
want
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to
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miss
3:41
it.
3:41
Take
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a
3:42
listen.
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Good
3:49
morning.
3:49
I'm
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Grant
3:50
Chandler.
3:50
And
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welcome
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to
3:51
the
3:51
wheelhouse.
3:52
It
3:52
is
3:52
another
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day
3:53
in
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the
3:53
recording
3:54
studio.
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And
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this
3:55
one,
3:56
I
3:56
say
3:56
it
3:57
every
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week,
3:57
right?
3:57
I
3:57
say
3:57
it
3:57
every
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week.
3:58
Every
3:58
week.
3:58
I
3:58
love
3:58
this.
3:58
I
3:59
love
3:59
this.
3:59
But
3:59
this
4:00
one's
4:00
extra
4:00
special
4:01
because
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I've
4:01
got
4:01
a
4:02
family
4:02
member
4:02
who's
4:03
here
4:03
today,
4:04
Right?
4:04
I
4:04
am
4:05
so,
4:05
so
4:06
excited.
4:06
So
4:06
first,
4:07
let
4:07
me
4:07
welcome
4:07
the
4:07
Whale
4:08
House
4:08
team.
4:08
My
4:09
dear
4:09
friends
4:09
and
4:10
colleagues,
4:10
Kathy
4:11
Moni,
4:11
Alicia
4:12
Monroe
4:12
and
4:12
Michael
4:13
Piper.
4:14
Good
4:15
morning.
4:15
Good
4:15
morning.
4:17
I
4:18
was
4:18
waiting
4:18
to
4:19
make
4:19
sure
4:19
we
4:19
were
4:19
in
4:20
sync
4:20
every.
4:21
It's
4:21
like
4:22
a
4:22
choir,
4:23
right?
4:23
It's
4:23
like
4:24
a
4:24
choir.
4:25
How
4:25
are
4:25
you?
4:26
Direct
4:26
us.
4:27
Yeah.
4:28
Yes.
4:28
So
4:29
good.
4:29
Like,
4:30
I
4:30
know
4:31
no
4:32
one
4:32
can
4:32
see
4:33
us,
4:33
but
4:34
everywhere,
4:35
everyone
4:36
is.
4:36
This
4:37
looks
4:37
like
4:37
the
4:37
sun
4:37
is
4:38
shining
4:38
down
4:39
upon
4:39
everyone.
4:41
It's
4:41
just
4:41
gorgeous.
4:42
Just
4:43
gorgeous.
4:43
Too
4:44
bad
4:44
that
4:44
they
4:44
can't
4:45
see
4:45
us
4:45
because
4:45
we
4:45
are
4:46
really
4:46
cute
4:46
this
4:46
morning.
4:46
I
4:47
know.
4:48
Looking
4:48
good.
4:50
Oh,
4:51
I.
4:51
I
4:51
even
4:51
did
4:52
my
4:52
hair
4:52
today
4:52
for
4:53
a.
4:53
For
4:53
an
4:53
audio
4:54
podcast,
4:55
Right?
4:56
I
4:57
am
4:58
certain.
4:59
So
4:59
excited
5:00
to
5:00
talk
5:00
about
5:00
the
5:01
work
5:01
that
5:01
we're
5:01
going
5:01
to
5:01
talk
5:02
about,
5:02
but
5:02
even
5:03
more
5:03
excited
5:04
to
5:04
welcome
5:05
Dr.
5:06
Kesha
5:07
Chandler
5:08
to
5:08
the
5:08
wheelhouse
5:09
space.
5:09
Good
5:10
morning,
5:10
my
5:10
dear
5:11
sister.
5:12
Good
5:12
morning,
5:13
everyone.
5:13
Good
5:14
morning.
5:15
Thank
5:15
you
5:15
for
5:15
having
5:16
me.
5:16
We're
5:17
so
5:17
happy
5:17
you
5:17
are
5:18
here.
5:18
We
5:19
are
5:19
so
5:19
happy
5:19
you
5:19
are
5:20
here.
5:21
Thank
5:21
you
5:21
for
5:22
having
5:22
me.
5:23
So
5:24
not
5:24
only
5:24
is
5:26
the
5:26
other
5:26
Dr.
5:27
Chandler,
5:27
not
5:27
only
5:27
is
5:28
she
5:28
just
5:28
really,
5:29
really,
5:29
really,
5:31
but
5:31
she's
5:31
done
5:32
some
5:32
beautiful,
5:33
amazing
5:34
work
5:34
that
5:35
really
5:35
needs
5:36
even
5:37
more
5:37
attention
5:38
drawn
5:38
to
5:38
it
5:39
than
5:39
she
5:39
has
5:39
already
5:40
garnered.
5:41
And
5:41
she
5:42
calls
5:42
that
5:42
work
5:43
the
5:43
One
5:44
Room
5:45
Schoolhouse.
5:47
And
5:47
it
5:48
is
5:48
a
5:48
study
5:48
which
5:48
I'll
5:49
let
5:49
her
5:49
describe
5:50
for
5:50
you.
5:51
But
5:52
it's
5:53
a
5:53
study
5:53
about
5:53
novice
5:54
black
5:55
teachers
5:55
and
5:55
the
5:56
experience.
5:57
The
5:57
experiences
5:58
of
5:58
novice
5:58
black
5:59
teachers
5:59
in
6:00
schools
6:01
across
6:01
the
6:02
country.
6:02
And
6:02
so
6:03
we'll
6:03
just
6:03
start
6:04
with
6:05
Dr.
6:05
Chandler.
6:06
Kesha.
6:08
Yes,
6:08
absolutely.
6:09
Please,
6:09
Kesha,
6:10
for
6:10
today.
6:11
Why
6:11
was
6:11
this?
6:12
Yeah,
6:12
for
6:12
today
6:12
only.
6:13
Right.
6:15
Kesha?
6:16
Yeah.
6:18
What
6:18
inspired
6:19
you
6:19
to
6:20
focus
6:20
on
6:21
such
6:21
an
6:22
amazing
6:23
area?
6:24
The
6:24
experiences
6:25
of
6:25
novice
6:26
black
6:26
teachers
6:27
in
6:27
the
6:27
United
6:27
States.
6:28
Absolutely.
6:29
So
6:29
my
6:30
research
6:30
is
6:30
centered
6:31
around.
6:31
First
6:31
of
6:32
all,
6:32
it
6:32
was
6:32
action
6:32
research
6:33
and
6:33
it's
6:34
centered
6:34
around
6:34
novice
6:35
black
6:36
teachers
6:36
in
6:36
urban
6:37
school
6:37
districts
6:38
in
6:38
their
6:38
first
6:38
to
6:39
fifth
6:39
year.
6:40
And
6:41
the
6:41
reason
6:42
was
6:42
because
6:43
one,
6:43
it's
6:44
mostly
6:44
personal.
6:45
I'm
6:45
going
6:46
to
6:46
start
6:46
there.
6:47
It's
6:47
obvious
6:47
I'm
6:48
black.
6:50
Secondly,
6:51
it's
6:51
based
6:51
on
6:52
my
6:53
parents.
6:54
My
6:55
parents
6:55
were
6:55
reared
6:56
in
6:56
King
6:57
Street,
6:57
South
6:58
Carolina,
6:58
population
6:59
3,000.
7:01
They
7:01
both
7:02
graduated
7:02
from
7:03
high
7:03
school
7:04
around
7:06
1958
7:07
and
7:07
1960.
7:10
I'm
7:10
going
7:10
to
7:10
take
7:11
a
7:11
step
7:11
back
7:12
to
7:12
when
7:12
they
7:12
were
7:13
in
7:13
elementary
7:14
school
7:14
and
7:14
literally
7:14
went
7:15
to
7:15
a
7:15
one
7:15
room
7:16
schoolhouse.
7:17
And
7:18
anyone
7:18
who
7:18
knows
7:19
the
7:19
history
7:20
that
7:20
they
7:20
are
7:21
currently
7:22
racing,
7:22
but
7:23
the
7:23
history
7:23
of
7:24
the
7:25
segregated
7:25
South.
7:26
Literally
7:27
black
7:27
children
7:28
went
7:28
to
7:28
school
7:29
in
7:29
a
7:29
one
7:30
room
7:30
schoolhouse,
7:31
most
7:31
often
7:32
in
7:32
a
7:32
church.
7:33
And
7:34
so
7:34
they
7:34
had
7:35
the
7:35
same
7:35
teacher
7:36
that
7:36
literally
7:37
taught
7:38
the
7:38
multi
7:39
grades.
7:40
So
7:41
the
7:41
grade
7:41
band
7:42
often
7:42
was
7:43
1
7:43
to
7:44
8,
7:44
1
7:45
to
7:45
6
7:45
or
7:46
however
7:46
it
7:46
was
7:46
structured
7:47
in
7:47
that
7:47
town.
7:50
Hearing
7:50
the
7:50
stories
7:50
of
7:51
my
7:51
father,
7:51
my
7:52
mother,
7:52
my
7:53
father's
7:53
responsibility
7:54
was
7:54
getting
7:54
the
7:55
logs
7:55
to
7:55
light
7:56
the
7:56
fireplace.
7:57
My
7:57
mother
7:58
went
7:58
to
7:58
a
7:58
different
7:58
school,
8:00
church
8:01
in
8:01
her
8:01
community.
8:02
But
8:03
my
8:04
mother's
8:04
aunt
8:04
actually
8:05
was
8:05
the
8:05
teacher
8:06
for
8:06
her
8:07
school
8:08
church.
8:09
And
8:09
I
8:10
asked
8:10
my
8:10
mother,
8:10
well,
8:11
was
8:12
your
8:12
aunt
8:12
or
8:13
slash
8:13
my
8:13
grand
8:14
aunt
8:16
certified?
8:17
You
8:17
know,
8:17
because
8:17
at
8:18
the
8:18
time
8:18
I
8:18
knew
8:19
I
8:19
always
8:19
wanted
8:20
to
8:20
be
8:20
a
8:20
teacher,
8:20
which
8:20
I
8:21
turned
8:21
out
8:21
to
8:21
be
8:21
a
8:21
teacher
8:22
of
8:22
course.
8:23
And
8:24
she
8:24
said
8:24
no,
8:24
she
8:25
was
8:25
just
8:25
the
8:26
town's
8:26
teacher.
8:27
And
8:27
so
8:27
I
8:27
just
8:28
found
8:28
that
8:28
very
8:28
fascinating.
8:29
I
8:29
just
8:29
used
8:30
to
8:30
sit
8:30
and
8:30
listen
8:30
to
8:31
all
8:31
of
8:31
their
8:31
stories.
8:32
And
8:33
my
8:33
mother
8:33
was
8:33
so
8:34
fond
8:34
of
8:34
every
8:35
single
8:35
teacher
8:35
she
8:36
always
8:36
had
8:37
and
8:37
can
8:37
remember
8:38
the
8:38
stories
8:39
about
8:39
all
8:40
of
8:40
her
8:40
teachers.
8:40
And
8:40
it
8:41
was
8:41
just
8:41
so
8:41
fascinating
8:42
to
8:42
me
8:43
because
8:43
she
8:43
had
8:43
all
8:44
black
8:44
teachers.
8:46
Now
8:46
I'm
8:46
going
8:46
to
8:47
fast
8:47
forward
8:47
to
8:48
my
8:48
childhood.
8:49
I
8:49
didn't
8:50
have
8:50
all
8:50
black
8:50
teachers.
8:51
I
8:52
had
8:52
a
8:52
total
8:52
of
8:53
five
8:53
black
8:53
teachers
8:54
from
8:54
K12,
8:56
from
8:57
actually
8:58
pre
8:58
K
8:58
to
8:59
12.
9:00
And
9:01
I
9:01
just
9:01
didn't
9:01
have
9:02
that
9:02
fond,
9:03
fond
9:03
experience.
9:03
But
9:04
the
9:04
fond
9:04
experience
9:05
I
9:05
did
9:06
have
9:06
of
9:07
my
9:07
black
9:07
teachers
9:08
were
9:09
because
9:09
of
9:09
those.
9:10
The
9:10
five
9:11
I
9:11
had
9:11
was
9:12
because
9:13
they
9:13
were
9:13
black.
9:14
And
9:14
so
9:15
then
9:15
my
9:16
daughter,
9:16
fast
9:17
forward
9:17
to
9:17
her
9:17
experience,
9:18
she
9:18
had
9:19
probably
9:19
a
9:20
total
9:20
of
9:20
five
9:21
as
9:21
well.
9:22
So
9:23
that
9:23
caused
9:23
me
9:23
to
9:23
go
9:24
a
9:24
little
9:24
deeper,
9:24
like,
9:25
okay,
9:25
it's
9:26
something
9:26
about
9:26
those
9:27
relationships,
9:28
identifying
9:29
with
9:29
people
9:29
who
9:29
look
9:29
like
9:30
you.
9:31
So
9:32
that
9:32
was
9:32
really
9:34
the
9:34
cause
9:34
of
9:35
me
9:35
wanted
9:35
to
9:36
get
9:36
down
9:36
to,
9:36
okay,
9:38
what
9:38
does
9:38
this
9:39
look
9:39
like?
9:39
The
9:40
other
9:40
reason
9:40
I
9:40
focused
9:41
on
9:43
from
9:43
the
9:43
first
9:43
year
9:44
to
9:44
the
9:44
fifth
9:44
year,
9:46
a
9:46
lot
9:46
of
9:46
times
9:47
teachers
9:47
leave
9:49
in
9:49
that
9:49
third
9:50
year.
9:52
I
9:53
left
9:53
the
9:53
very
9:54
first
9:54
time.
9:55
At
9:55
that
9:55
third
9:56
year
9:58
I
9:58
went
9:58
into
9:58
the
9:59
business
9:59
world.
10:00
So,
10:00
you
10:00
know,
10:00
I
10:00
thought
10:01
I
10:01
wanted
10:01
to
10:01
make
10:01
a
10:01
little
10:01
more
10:02
money
10:04
and
10:04
was
10:04
fooled
10:06
when
10:06
I
10:06
started
10:06
missing
10:07
the
10:07
Christmas
10:07
holiday.
10:07
So
10:08
I
10:08
ended
10:08
up
10:08
coming
10:09
back
10:09
and
10:09
all
10:09
that
10:09
good
10:09
stuff
10:10
when
10:10
I
10:10
realized,
10:11
wait
10:11
a
10:11
minute,
10:12
I
10:12
don't
10:12
have
10:12
off
10:13
Columbus
10:13
Day,
10:13
Veterans
10:14
Day,
10:14
all
10:14
that
10:14
good
10:14
stuff,
10:15
right?
10:15
So
10:15
after
10:16
I
10:16
left
10:16
for
10:17
two
10:17
years,
10:17
I
10:17
ended
10:17
up
10:17
coming
10:18
back.
10:18
But
10:18
nonetheless
10:21
I
10:21
was
10:21
tricked,
10:22
I
10:22
was
10:22
bamboozled,
10:23
whatever.
10:23
I
10:23
came
10:24
back
10:24
to
10:24
education.
10:25
But
10:25
at
10:25
the
10:26
same
10:26
time
10:28
it
10:28
was
10:29
something
10:29
about
10:29
that
10:29
third
10:30
year
10:30
where
10:30
I
10:30
felt
10:32
not
10:32
as
10:32
supported.
10:34
But
10:34
there
10:34
are
10:34
many
10:35
people
10:35
who
10:35
do
10:35
not
10:36
come
10:36
back
10:37
at
10:37
all.
10:38
So
10:38
I
10:38
wanted
10:39
to
10:39
examine
10:39
also
10:40
what
10:40
happens
10:41
in
10:41
those
10:41
years
10:42
3,
10:42
4
10:43
and
10:43
5.
10:44
And
10:44
so
10:45
that's
10:45
where
10:45
I
10:46
started
10:46
to
10:46
focus
10:47
on
10:48
years
10:49
three,
10:49
four
10:49
and
10:50
five
10:50
as
10:50
well.
10:52
I
10:53
mean,
10:53
the
10:53
data
10:53
is
10:53
pretty
10:54
clear,
10:54
right?
10:54
I
10:54
mean,
10:54
there's
10:55
such
10:55
a
10:55
mass
10:56
exodus
10:57
of
10:57
teachers
10:59
of
10:59
any
10:59
race
11:00
race
11:01
leaving
11:02
at
11:03
year
11:03
three
11:03
and
11:03
never
11:04
coming
11:04
back.
11:04
But
11:05
when
11:05
there's
11:06
such
11:06
a
11:06
shortage
11:08
of
11:08
teachers
11:09
of
11:09
color
11:09
to
11:09
begin
11:10
with,
11:10
then
11:11
we
11:11
can't
11:11
afford.
11:12
Right.
11:13
We
11:13
can't
11:13
afford
11:13
when
11:13
any
11:14
of
11:14
these
11:14
good
11:14
teachers
11:14
leave.
11:14
But
11:16
we
11:16
cannot
11:16
afford
11:17
that
11:17
to
11:17
happen.
11:18
Absolutely.
11:19
Especially
11:19
for
11:20
our
11:20
teachers
11:21
of
11:21
color
11:21
who
11:21
are
11:21
already
11:23
much
11:23
smaller
11:24
in
11:24
number
11:24
than.
11:24
They
11:25
should
11:25
be
11:26
at
11:26
the
11:26
word
11:26
shortage
11:27
grant.
11:27
Because
11:27
what
11:28
I
11:28
also
11:28
started
11:29
noticing
11:29
in
11:30
2007,
11:31
I
11:31
left
11:32
teaching
11:32
and
11:32
started
11:33
doing
11:33
professional
11:33
development
11:34
around
11:34
the
11:34
country.
11:35
And
11:35
oftentimes
11:36
when
11:36
I
11:37
started
11:37
traveling,
11:38
especially
11:38
to
11:38
the
11:39
Midwest
11:39
and
11:39
out
11:39
west,
11:40
I
11:41
would
11:41
often
11:41
be
11:42
the
11:42
only
11:42
person
11:43
of
11:43
color
11:43
I
11:43
would
11:43
see
11:44
in
11:44
a
11:44
lot
11:44
of
11:44
these
11:44
schools.
11:45
And
11:46
I
11:46
was
11:46
perplexed
11:47
from
11:48
leaving
11:48
the
11:48
east
11:48
coast
11:49
and
11:49
starting
11:50
to
11:50
shift
11:51
and
11:51
move.
11:52
I
11:52
was
11:53
astonished,
11:54
right?
11:55
Like,
11:55
what
11:56
is
11:56
happening?
11:57
Where
11:57
are
11:58
the
11:59
teachers
11:59
that
11:59
look
12:00
like
12:00
me,
12:00
but
12:01
I'm
12:01
looking
12:01
at
12:01
babies
12:02
that
12:02
look
12:02
like
12:03
me.
12:04
Right.
12:04
And
12:04
the
12:05
students
12:05
would
12:05
just
12:06
run
12:07
to
12:07
me
12:07
and
12:07
gravitate
12:08
like,
12:09
hey,
12:10
it's
12:10
so
12:10
good
12:10
to
12:10
see
12:11
you.
12:12
Right.
12:12
And
12:12
oftentimes
12:13
I
12:13
would
12:13
have
12:14
babies,
12:14
complete
12:15
strangers
12:15
run
12:16
up
12:16
and
12:16
give
12:16
me
12:16
hugs.
12:18
Yeah,
12:18
I
12:18
mean,
12:19
we,
12:19
you
12:19
know,
12:21
for
12:22
white
12:22
people,
12:23
we
12:23
kind
12:23
of
12:24
take
12:24
that
12:24
for
12:25
granted,
12:26
right.
12:27
That
12:28
we
12:28
go
12:28
to
12:28
schools
12:30
and
12:30
there's
12:31
going
12:31
to
12:31
be
12:31
a
12:31
lot
12:31
of
12:31
people
12:32
in
12:32
those
12:32
schools,
12:33
adult
12:33
wise,
12:33
that
12:33
look
12:34
like
12:34
us,
12:35
but
12:36
we
12:36
take
12:36
that
12:36
for
12:37
granted.
12:37
And
12:37
of
12:37
course.
12:39
Well,
12:40
we'll
12:40
leave
12:40
that
12:40
there
12:41
for
12:41
right
12:41
now.
12:43
In
12:43
your
12:43
work,
12:44
the
12:44
one
12:45
room
12:45
schoolhouse,
12:45
you
12:46
mentioned
12:46
three
12:46
pillars.
12:47
It's
12:47
all
12:48
focused
12:48
around
12:49
three
12:49
pillars
12:50
in
12:51
that
12:51
research.
12:51
Could
12:52
you
12:52
talk
12:52
to
12:52
us
12:52
just
12:53
a
12:53
little
12:53
bit
12:53
about
12:53
what
12:53
those
12:54
are
12:54
and
12:54
then
12:55
we're
12:55
just
12:55
going
12:55
to
12:55
engage
12:56
in
12:56
some
12:56
great
12:56
conversation.
12:57
Yes,
12:57
absolutely.
12:58
So
12:59
what
13:00
I
13:00
had.
13:01
So
13:02
okay,
13:02
let
13:02
me
13:02
take
13:02
a
13:02
step
13:03
back.
13:03
So
13:04
I
13:04
had
13:05
around
13:06
8
13:06
to
13:07
10
13:07
participants.
13:09
So
13:10
let's
13:10
talk
13:10
about
13:10
what
13:10
that
13:11
research
13:11
looked
13:11
like.
13:12
There
13:12
were
13:13
six
13:14
weeks
13:14
of
13:15
professional
13:15
learning
13:17
and
13:18
eight
13:18
to
13:18
10
13:18
participants
13:19
that
13:19
would
13:20
come
13:20
in.
13:20
They
13:21
were
13:21
all
13:21
teachers
13:21
in
13:22
their
13:22
first
13:22
to
13:22
fifth
13:23
year
13:23
black
13:23
teachers
13:24
that
13:24
identified
13:24
as
13:24
black
13:25
teachers
13:25
in
13:26
urban
13:26
school
13:26
districts
13:28
from
13:28
the
13:28
east
13:29
coast
13:29
all
13:29
the
13:30
way
13:30
down
13:30
through,
13:32
I
13:32
think,
13:32
Louisiana.
13:34
So
13:34
we
13:34
covered
13:35
multiple
13:36
regions.
13:36
We
13:36
didn't
13:37
have
13:37
any
13:37
west
13:37
coast
13:37
participants
13:38
because
13:38
of
13:38
time
13:39
zone.
13:39
So
13:40
I
13:40
wanted
13:40
to
13:40
keep
13:40
them
13:40
in
13:41
the
13:41
central
13:41
time
13:42
zone
13:42
and
13:42
the
13:42
east
13:42
coast
13:43
time
13:43
zone.
13:43
So
13:43
we
13:43
met
13:44
on
13:44
zoom
13:45
at
13:46
a
13:46
set
13:46
date,
13:47
day
13:48
of
13:48
week
13:48
and
13:48
time
13:49
per
13:50
week.
13:50
Every
13:50
other
13:51
week
13:51
we
13:51
met
13:53
and
13:54
we
13:54
had
13:54
a
13:54
topic
13:55
set
13:55
for
13:55
each
13:55
one
13:56
of
13:56
those
13:56
weeks,
13:57
and
13:57
they
13:57
knew
13:57
the
13:58
topic.
13:58
So
13:58
we
13:58
would
13:59
meet
13:59
for,
13:59
I
14:00
believe
14:00
it
14:00
was
14:00
an
14:01
hour
14:01
and
14:01
a
14:01
half,
14:02
and
14:02
I'm
14:03
trying
14:03
to
14:03
remember,
14:04
and
14:04
we
14:04
had
14:04
the
14:04
topics
14:05
already
14:05
identified
14:06
and
14:06
we
14:06
would
14:06
do
14:06
a
14:07
survey
14:07
and
14:08
we
14:08
had
14:09
a
14:09
different
14:10
facilitator
14:11
each
14:11
week,
14:12
and
14:13
we
14:13
would
14:13
have
14:14
great
14:14
conversation
14:15
on
14:16
each
14:16
topic.
14:17
And
14:19
I
14:19
was
14:20
just
14:20
a
14:21
listening
14:21
ear.
14:22
Sometimes
14:22
I
14:22
would
14:22
get
14:23
involved,
14:23
but
14:23
most
14:23
times
14:24
I
14:24
just
14:24
listen.
14:25
Taking
14:25
notes,
14:26
of
14:26
course,
14:27
and
14:28
what
14:28
came
14:29
out
14:29
of
14:29
the
14:30
notes,
14:30
of
14:30
course,
14:31
and
14:31
the
14:31
survey
14:32
results,
14:33
the
14:33
three
14:33
pillars
14:34
that
14:34
you
14:34
speak
14:34
of,
14:35
what
14:35
came
14:36
from
14:36
those
14:36
participants
14:37
is
14:37
that
14:38
these
14:38
teachers
14:38
identified
14:39
that
14:39
they
14:39
need
14:40
support
14:42
from
14:42
leadership
14:43
and
14:44
true
14:44
mentorship.
14:45
Not
14:45
the
14:46
type
14:46
of
14:46
mentorship
14:47
that
14:47
you.
14:48
You
14:48
receive,
14:49
you
14:49
know,
14:49
from
14:50
your
14:50
assigned
14:50
mentor
14:51
that
14:51
shows,
14:52
oh,
14:53
here's
14:53
where
14:54
you
14:54
sign
14:54
in
14:55
per
14:55
day,
14:56
here's
14:56
where
14:56
you
14:56
get
14:57
your
14:57
paper,
14:57
you
14:58
know,
14:58
your
14:58
rhema
14:58
paper.
14:59
But
15:00
they
15:00
needed
15:00
real
15:01
mentorship.
15:03
They
15:03
need
15:04
authentic
15:04
professional
15:05
learning,
15:06
culturally
15:06
relevant,
15:08
job
15:08
embedded.
15:11
Not
15:11
that
15:12
they
15:12
need
15:13
versus,
15:14
you
15:14
know,
15:14
the
15:14
traditional
15:15
diverse,
15:17
you
15:17
know,
15:17
versus
15:18
the
15:18
traditional
15:20
six
15:20
hour,
15:21
you
15:21
know,
15:22
that
15:22
type.
15:23
Then
15:23
they
15:24
needed
15:24
authentic
15:25
relationships
15:27
and
15:28
safe
15:28
spaces.
15:31
What
15:31
they
15:32
found
15:32
more,
15:32
the
15:33
most
15:33
valuable
15:33
were
15:34
those
15:34
collegial
15:34
relationships.
15:37
Authentic
15:38
collegial
15:39
relationships.
15:40
They
15:41
learned
15:41
more
15:41
from
15:41
their
15:42
colleagues
15:44
than
15:44
they
15:44
did
15:44
from
15:45
their
15:45
leaders.
15:48
Every
15:48
single
15:49
participant,
15:51
and
15:52
this
15:52
was
15:52
most
15:53
frightening
15:53
for
15:53
me,
15:56
did
15:56
not
15:57
find
15:57
value
15:57
from
15:58
their
15:58
principal.
16:02
And
16:02
that
16:03
was
16:03
the
16:03
most
16:03
disheartening
16:04
part
16:04
for
16:04
me.
16:08
I
16:08
mean,
16:09
you
16:09
think
16:09
about
16:09
it,
16:10
and,
16:10
you
16:10
know,
16:12
we've
16:12
been
16:12
talking
16:12
in
16:13
the
16:13
wheelhouse,
16:14
well,
16:15
for
16:15
10
16:15
seasons
16:16
about
16:16
how
16:16
important
16:17
belonging
16:18
is.
16:19
Yeah,
16:19
Right.
16:20
And,
16:21
you
16:21
know,
16:21
here's
16:22
just
16:22
another.
16:22
Another
16:23
lens,
16:24
another
16:25
very
16:25
specific
16:25
lens
16:26
to
16:26
think
16:26
about
16:26
how
16:27
important
16:28
authentic
16:28
relationships
16:29
and
16:29
belonging
16:30
really
16:30
are,
16:31
not
16:31
just
16:31
for
16:32
students,
16:33
but
16:33
for
16:34
adults
16:34
too.
16:35
Yeah.
16:36
And
16:36
a
16:37
lot
16:37
of
16:37
our
16:37
facilitators,
16:38
of
16:38
course,
16:38
we're
16:39
all
16:39
former
16:40
principals.
16:40
Right.
16:41
So
16:42
hearing,
16:43
having
16:44
the
16:44
facilitators
16:44
in
16:45
the
16:45
room
16:45
and
16:45
hearing
16:46
the
16:46
conversations
16:46
from
16:47
these
16:47
teachers
16:47
were,
16:48
I
16:48
think
16:48
were
16:48
also.
16:49
That
16:49
was
16:49
valuable
16:50
for
16:50
the
16:50
facilitators,
16:51
hearing
16:52
those
16:52
conversations
16:53
from
16:53
them.
16:53
Right.
16:54
But
16:54
then
16:54
also
16:54
giving
16:55
their
16:55
perspective
16:56
as
16:56
well.
16:56
But
16:57
I
16:57
think
16:57
it
16:57
was
16:57
great
16:58
for
16:58
them
16:59
to
16:59
hear
16:59
from
16:59
these
17:00
young
17:00
people.
17:00
Right.
17:01
We
17:02
had
17:02
only
17:02
one
17:02
millennial
17:04
in
17:04
the
17:04
group,
17:05
but
17:05
the
17:05
rest
17:05
were
17:06
all
17:06
Gen
17:06
Z.
17:08
So
17:09
that
17:09
was
17:10
also
17:11
undergirding
17:13
something
17:14
that
17:14
unexpected
17:14
that
17:15
came
17:15
out
17:15
of
17:15
my
17:16
research
17:16
that
17:17
I
17:17
didn't
17:17
expect
17:17
to
17:18
learn
17:19
myself
17:19
was,
17:19
hey,
17:20
there's
17:20
something
17:20
here
17:21
generational.
17:23
So
17:23
something
17:24
called
17:24
reverse
17:25
mentorship
17:26
came
17:26
that
17:27
term,
17:27
reverse
17:27
mentorship,
17:28
where
17:30
Gen
17:30
Z
17:31
can
17:31
afford
17:32
to
17:33
mentor
17:34
millennials
17:35
and
17:35
Gen
17:36
X,
17:37
we
17:37
can
17:38
learn
17:39
from
17:40
Generation
17:41
Z
17:41
for
17:42
sure.
17:43
And
17:43
because
17:44
this
17:44
is
17:45
the
17:45
first
17:45
time
17:45
where
17:45
we
17:46
have
17:46
Gen
17:46
Z
17:46
teachers
17:48
teaching
17:48
Gen
17:49
Z
17:49
students.
17:49
That's
17:50
the
17:50
only
17:50
generation
17:51
that
17:51
actually
17:52
is
17:52
teaching
17:52
their
17:52
own
17:53
students.
17:55
The
17:55
only
17:55
generation
17:56
for
17:56
the
17:56
first
17:57
time
17:57
in
17:57
history
17:58
teaching
17:58
their
17:58
own
18:00
because
18:00
of
18:00
the
18:00
large
18:01
population,
18:04
right?
18:05
This
18:05
is
18:05
the
18:05
first
18:06
time.
18:06
So
18:07
it
18:08
was
18:08
very
18:08
valuable
18:08
just
18:09
to
18:09
hear
18:09
from
18:09
that
18:09
group.
18:10
And
18:10
this
18:10
is
18:10
also.
18:12
They're
18:12
digital
18:13
natives,
18:14
right?
18:15
And
18:15
so
18:15
because
18:16
of
18:16
that
18:16
too,
18:17
they're
18:17
entrepreneurial.
18:20
So
18:20
they're
18:20
already
18:20
creating
18:22
businesses
18:23
for
18:23
themselves.
18:24
They're
18:25
TikTok
18:25
babies,
18:26
right?
18:26
So
18:27
they're
18:27
earning
18:27
income
18:28
through
18:29
social
18:29
media.
18:29
They're
18:30
influencers,
18:31
right?
18:31
They're
18:31
doing
18:32
so
18:32
many
18:33
things.
18:35
They
18:35
have
18:35
an
18:35
entrepreneurial
18:36
mindset.
18:37
So
18:37
they're
18:37
already
18:37
looking
18:38
at
18:38
ways
18:38
to
18:39
get
18:39
out
18:39
of
18:39
education
18:41
through
18:41
that
18:41
lens
18:42
because
18:42
of
18:43
the
18:44
financial
18:45
aspect.
18:45
So
18:45
we
18:46
did
18:46
a
18:46
whole
18:46
series
18:47
on
18:49
how
18:49
to
18:49
look
18:50
at
18:50
educational
18:51
careers,
18:52
not
18:52
necessarily
18:53
to
18:53
get
18:53
you
18:53
out
18:53
of
18:54
the
18:54
classroom,
18:54
but
18:55
to
18:55
still
18:55
keep
18:55
you
18:56
connected
18:56
in
18:56
education.
18:58
So
18:58
after,
18:59
not,
18:59
I
19:00
don't
19:00
want
19:00
to
19:00
say
19:00
after
19:01
the
19:01
one
19:01
room
19:01
schoolhouse,
19:02
because
19:02
there
19:02
is
19:02
no
19:02
such
19:02
thing
19:03
as
19:03
after
19:04
the
19:04
one
19:04
room
19:04
schoolhouse
19:05
because
19:05
all
19:05
of
19:06
these
19:06
educators
19:06
are
19:06
still
19:07
connected
19:07
to
19:07
the
19:07
one
19:07
room
19:08
schoolhouse.
19:09
They're
19:09
all
19:10
still
19:10
in
19:10
education.
19:12
And
19:12
I
19:12
can
19:13
use
19:13
this
19:13
one
19:14
person
19:14
as
19:14
an
19:14
example.
19:15
The
19:15
only
19:15
person
19:16
that
19:16
left
19:16
K12
19:17
education
19:18
is
19:18
my
19:18
daughter.
19:20
She
19:20
was
19:20
involved
19:21
in
19:21
the
19:21
one
19:21
room
19:21
schoolhouse.
19:22
Now
19:23
I'm
19:23
going
19:23
to
19:24
use
19:24
her
19:25
as
19:25
the
19:25
example.
19:25
She's
19:26
the
19:26
one
19:26
person
19:26
who
19:27
left
19:27
after
19:27
year
19:28
two.
19:29
She
19:29
had
19:30
probably
19:30
the
19:30
worst
19:30
experience
19:31
with
19:31
her
19:32
principal,
19:33
both
19:33
principals.
19:35
She
19:35
left
19:36
K12,
19:36
but
19:36
she
19:36
went
19:37
into
19:37
higher
19:37
ed.
19:38
And
19:39
she
19:39
had
19:40
then,
19:40
when
19:40
she
19:40
went
19:40
into
19:41
higher
19:41
ed,
19:41
the
19:42
best
19:43
example
19:43
of
19:44
a
19:44
supportive
19:44
leader.
19:45
And
19:45
she
19:45
has
19:46
grown
19:46
and
19:46
flourished
19:47
in
19:48
just
19:48
two
19:48
years
19:49
there,
19:50
where
19:50
she
19:50
now
19:50
leads
19:51
an
19:51
entire
19:52
department
19:53
at
19:53
her
19:53
higher
19:54
ed
19:54
institution.
19:55
So
19:55
she
19:55
did
19:55
not
19:56
leave
19:56
education.
19:57
She
19:58
is
19:58
now
19:59
in
19:59
her
20:00
doctoral
20:00
program,
20:01
eds.
20:02
So
20:02
she's
20:02
in
20:02
her
20:03
dissertation
20:03
phase
20:04
herself.
20:04
Right.
20:04
So
20:05
talk
20:05
about
20:05
growth
20:06
there.
20:07
The
20:07
rest
20:07
of
20:07
the
20:07
participants
20:08
are
20:09
now,
20:10
I
20:10
believe
20:11
they're
20:11
all
20:11
out
20:11
of
20:12
the
20:12
classroom
20:13
and
20:13
all
20:13
in
20:14
different
20:14
leadership
20:14
roles
20:15
themselves.
20:16
Right.
20:16
But
20:16
just
20:16
through
20:17
having
20:17
those
20:17
conversations
20:19
and
20:19
seeing
20:19
themselves,
20:21
you
20:22
know,
20:22
in
20:23
roles
20:23
and
20:23
having
20:24
those
20:24
conversations
20:25
about
20:25
their
20:25
own
20:26
leadership
20:26
pathways.
20:28
And
20:28
so
20:28
I
20:29
actually
20:29
have
20:29
to
20:29
thank
20:29
one
20:30
of
20:30
the
20:30
facilitators,
20:31
two
20:31
of
20:31
the
20:31
facilitators
20:32
that
20:32
had
20:33
those
20:33
different
20:33
conversations
20:34
about
20:34
pathways
20:35
and
20:35
growth
20:35
and
20:36
leadership
20:37
and
20:37
seeing
20:38
themselves
20:38
and
20:39
talking
20:39
about
20:39
what
20:40
does
20:40
that
20:40
mean
20:40
to
20:40
grow
20:41
them,
20:42
leading
20:43
from
20:43
where
20:43
you
20:43
are
20:43
in
20:44
growth
20:44
and
20:45
pathways
20:46
and
20:46
things
20:46
like
20:47
that.
20:48
So
20:48
before
20:48
I
20:48
open
20:48
it
20:49
up
20:49
and
20:49
talk
20:49
about
20:50
implications
20:51
of
20:51
this
20:51
work
20:52
for
20:53
leaders
20:53
and
20:54
for
20:54
teachers,
20:55
just
20:56
want
20:56
to
20:56
give
20:56
my
20:56
team
20:57
an
20:57
opportunity
20:58
to
20:58
digest
20:59
and
20:59
ask
21:00
you
21:00
some
21:00
questions
21:01
around
21:01
this
21:02
fascinating
21:02
work
21:03
that
21:03
you've
21:03
done.
21:05
So
21:05
I'm
21:06
familiar,
21:07
nicely
21:07
familiar
21:08
with
21:09
Dr.
21:09
Chandler's
21:10
research.
21:12
I
21:12
remember
21:13
the
21:13
focus
21:13
groups
21:14
and
21:14
I
21:14
remember
21:14
her
21:15
sitting
21:15
there
21:15
and
21:16
just
21:16
gleaning
21:16
all
21:17
this
21:17
great
21:17
information.
21:19
My
21:19
question
21:20
kind
21:20
of
21:21
really
21:21
bridges
21:23
what
21:23
we
21:23
discussed
21:24
last
21:24
week.
21:25
Right.
21:26
With
21:26
today's
21:27
conversation.
21:28
And
21:28
I
21:28
wanted
21:28
to
21:28
know,
21:29
Kesha,
21:31
as
21:31
you
21:31
collected
21:31
the
21:32
data
21:33
and
21:34
you
21:34
did
21:34
that
21:34
so
21:35
well,
21:37
what
21:37
was
21:38
lifted
21:38
from
21:39
the
21:39
participants
21:40
around
21:41
what
21:41
characteristics
21:43
they
21:43
are
21:43
looking
21:43
for
21:44
in
21:44
leaders?
21:45
Last
21:45
week
21:47
we
21:48
had
21:49
a
21:49
great
21:49
conversation
21:50
around
21:50
transformational
21:51
leadership.
21:52
You
21:52
and
21:52
I
21:52
talk
21:53
about
21:53
that
21:53
all
21:53
the
21:54
time.
21:55
What
21:55
are
21:55
those
21:55
qualities,
21:57
those
21:57
high
21:58
impact
21:58
qualities
21:59
that
22:00
are
22:02
new
22:03
teachers?
22:03
As
22:04
you
22:04
mentioned,
22:04
this
22:04
is
22:04
the
22:05
first
22:05
time
22:05
in
22:05
our
22:05
history
22:06
that
22:06
we
22:06
have
22:07
four
22:07
generations
22:08
of
22:08
educators
22:09
in
22:09
the
22:09
workplace
22:10
that
22:10
our
22:11
new
22:11
teachers
22:11
are
22:12
actually
22:14
there
22:15
making
22:15
it
22:16
happen.
22:16
What
22:16
are
22:17
they
22:17
looking
22:17
for
22:18
in
22:18
a
22:18
transformational
22:20
leader?
22:22
The
22:22
first
22:22
thing
22:23
I
22:23
lifted
22:23
was
22:24
empathy.
22:25
That
22:25
was
22:25
the
22:25
very
22:25
first
22:26
word
22:26
that
22:26
popped
22:27
up,
22:28
empathy.
22:29
The
22:29
second
22:30
thing
22:30
was
22:30
culturally
22:31
responsive.
22:33
The
22:33
third
22:34
thing
22:34
was
22:34
create
22:35
meaningful
22:36
support
22:36
systems.
22:37
Meaningful
22:39
actionable
22:40
support
22:41
systems.
22:42
Right.
22:42
We
22:42
have
22:43
to
22:43
go
22:43
beyond
22:43
words.
22:44
When
22:45
you
22:45
say
22:45
a
22:46
mentor
22:46
relationship,
22:47
it's
22:48
not,
22:48
again,
22:48
show
22:48
me
22:49
where
22:49
that
22:49
ream
22:49
of
22:49
paper
22:51
assigning
22:52
someone
22:52
to
22:53
me
22:53
to,
22:54
you
22:54
know,
22:55
show
22:55
me
22:55
where
22:55
my
22:55
parking
22:56
space
22:56
spaces,
22:57
but
22:57
showing
22:58
me
22:58
someone
22:58
to
22:59
advance
22:59
my
22:59
career
23:00
or
23:00
to
23:01
show
23:01
to,
23:02
to
23:02
co.
23:02
Teach,
23:03
co
23:03
plan,
23:05
create
23:05
meaningful
23:06
planning
23:06
time.
23:07
Not,
23:07
you
23:08
know,
23:08
giving
23:08
me
23:09
that
23:09
time
23:09
to
23:10
use
23:10
me
23:11
to,
23:12
to,
23:12
to
23:13
sub
23:13
a
23:13
class.
23:14
And
23:14
again,
23:15
we
23:15
know
23:16
that
23:17
there's
23:17
such
23:17
a
23:18
shortage
23:18
and
23:18
time
23:19
is
23:19
thin
23:19
and
23:20
everyone
23:20
is
23:21
being
23:21
stretched,
23:23
but
23:23
value
23:24
my
23:24
time
23:24
enough
23:25
to
23:26
honestly
23:27
help
23:27
me
23:27
grow.
23:28
So
23:29
those
23:29
were
23:29
the
23:30
three
23:30
or
23:30
four
23:31
main
23:31
things.
23:31
But
23:32
empathy
23:32
was
23:33
the
23:33
first
23:33
thing
23:34
that
23:34
was
23:34
lifted,
23:35
right?
23:36
And
23:36
that
23:36
safe
23:37
space
23:37
was
23:37
super
23:38
important.
23:40
Super
23:40
important.
23:42
Because
23:42
they
23:42
need
23:42
to
23:42
talk.
23:43
I
23:43
mean,
23:43
they
23:43
need
23:43
to
23:43
be
23:43
able
23:44
to
23:44
talk
23:44
about
23:45
everything
23:46
that
23:46
is
23:47
in
23:47
their
23:47
head
23:48
and
23:48
in
23:48
their
23:48
heart
23:49
around
23:49
what
23:50
this,
23:50
what
23:50
this
23:51
journey
23:51
in
23:51
the
23:51
classroom
23:52
looks
23:52
like.
23:52
And
23:52
it's
23:53
not
23:53
always
23:54
right,
23:54
it's
23:55
not
23:55
always
23:55
easy,
23:56
and
23:56
it's
23:56
not
23:56
always
23:57
pretty.
23:57
And
23:58
especially,
23:59
you
23:59
know,
23:59
this
23:59
research
24:00
was
24:00
completed
24:01
in
24:02
2022,
24:04
right?
24:05
29th,
24:05
2022
24:06
looks
24:06
different
24:07
than
24:07
2025.
24:08
Right.
24:08
So
24:08
today
24:09
you
24:09
need
24:09
a
24:09
strategic
24:10
advocate
24:11
to
24:11
navigate
24:12
these
24:12
political
24:12
pressures
24:13
that's
24:13
happening
24:13
right
24:14
now.
24:14
No
24:14
matter
24:15
what
24:15
side
24:15
you
24:15
sit
24:16
on.
24:16
Right.
24:17
You
24:17
have
24:17
to
24:17
protect
24:17
your
24:18
teachers
24:18
from
24:18
these
24:19
political
24:19
pressures.
24:20
I
24:20
don't
24:20
care
24:20
what
24:21
side
24:21
you
24:21
sit
24:21
on.
24:21
A,
24:22
B,
24:22
C,
24:22
D,
24:22
e,
24:23
whatever.
24:23
Yeah,
24:24
2022,
24:25
we
24:25
were
24:25
just
24:25
coming
24:25
out
24:25
of
24:25
the
24:25
pandemic.
24:26
We
24:26
were
24:26
returning
24:27
to
24:27
face
24:27
to
24:27
face.
24:27
Some
24:28
of
24:28
them
24:28
were,
24:28
some
24:28
of
24:28
us.
24:29
Were
24:29
still
24:30
different
24:30
world,
24:31
right?
24:32
Everyone
24:33
has
24:33
a
24:33
different.
24:34
Wherever
24:34
you
24:35
come
24:35
from,
24:36
we
24:36
have
24:36
students
24:37
in
24:37
front
24:37
of
24:37
us.
24:38
We
24:39
must
24:39
also
24:39
think
24:39
about
24:40
the
24:40
fact
24:40
that
24:41
our
24:41
teachers
24:41
are
24:42
coming
24:42
in
24:42
with
24:42
a
24:42
different
24:43
level
24:43
of
24:43
pedagogy
24:44
and
24:44
practice.
24:45
And
24:45
that's
24:45
where
24:46
the
24:46
empathy
24:46
comes
24:46
in.
24:47
Right?
24:47
We
24:48
have
24:48
to
24:48
really
24:48
meet
24:49
them
24:49
where
24:49
we
24:49
are
24:49
where
24:50
they
24:50
are.
24:50
And
24:51
if
24:51
we're
24:51
asked,
24:52
we're
24:53
asking
24:53
of
24:54
our
24:54
teachers
24:54
to
24:55
do
24:55
that
24:55
with
24:55
our
24:55
students
24:57
as
24:57
educational
24:58
leaders.
24:58
We
24:58
must
24:59
in
24:59
turn
24:59
do
25:00
that
25:00
with
25:00
the
25:01
educators
25:02
that
25:03
we
25:03
serve.
25:04
And
25:05
first
25:05
of
25:05
all,
25:05
we
25:05
have
25:05
to
25:06
see
25:06
ourselves
25:06
as
25:07
servant
25:07
leaders.
25:08
So
25:08
there
25:09
is
25:09
so
25:09
much,
25:10
Dr.
25:10
Chandler,
25:11
to
25:11
your
25:11
research
25:12
that
25:12
I'd
25:12
love
25:12
to
25:13
take
25:13
touch
25:13
on
25:14
that
25:14
is
25:15
far
25:15
outside
25:16
of
25:16
our
25:16
40
25:16
minutes.
25:17
So
25:17
I
25:17
am
25:17
not
25:18
going
25:18
to
25:18
monopolize
25:19
the
25:19
conversation
25:19
because,
25:20
you
25:20
know,
25:20
you
25:20
and
25:21
I
25:21
could
25:21
talk
25:21
about
25:21
this
25:22
all
25:22
day.
25:23
You
25:23
know,
25:23
I'm
25:23
a
25:24
fan,
25:25
but
25:25
I
25:25
think
25:25
Mike,
25:26
I,
25:26
I
25:26
heard
25:26
Mike
25:27
take
25:27
a
25:27
deep
25:27
breath,
25:28
so
25:28
I
25:28
know
25:28
he's
25:28
getting
25:29
ready
25:29
to
25:29
start
25:29
something.
25:32
I'm
25:33
surfaced.
25:36
Thank
25:36
you,
25:36
Alicia.
25:37
Dr.
25:38
Chandra.
25:38
This,
25:39
this
25:39
takes
25:39
me
25:39
back
25:40
probably
25:41
to
25:41
2017,
25:42
2018,
25:44
where
25:44
I
25:44
was
25:45
administrator
25:45
in
25:46
a
25:46
predominantly
25:47
white
25:47
suburban
25:48
district.
25:49
And,
25:50
you
25:51
know,
25:51
our
25:52
efforts
25:53
at
25:54
diversifying
25:55
our
25:55
workforce
25:56
were
25:56
really
25:57
just
26:00
getting
26:00
focused
26:01
and
26:01
beginning.
26:03
And
26:05
you
26:05
know,
26:05
to
26:05
me,
26:06
it
26:06
wasn't
26:06
the
26:06
fact
26:07
that,
26:07
that
26:07
there
26:07
weren't
26:08
qualified
26:08
teachers
26:10
who
26:11
were
26:12
black
26:13
teachers.
26:14
It
26:14
was
26:15
that
26:16
the
26:16
research
26:17
was
26:17
really
26:17
clear.
26:19
The
26:19
pipeline,
26:21
you
26:21
know,
26:21
where
26:22
it
26:22
existed
26:23
across
26:23
the
26:24
nation,
26:26
it
26:26
had
26:27
interest
26:28
in
26:29
several
26:30
preparatory
26:31
institutions
26:33
from
26:33
students
26:33
of
26:34
color,
26:35
but
26:36
the
26:36
landing
26:36
places
26:38
where
26:38
these
26:39
certified
26:40
new
26:40
teachers
26:41
were
26:42
coming
26:42
to
26:43
were
26:44
not
26:44
hospitable
26:45
spaces.
26:46
And
26:46
the
26:46
research
26:47
was
26:47
so
26:48
clear
26:48
in
26:48
this.
26:49
And
26:49
as
26:50
I
26:50
began
26:50
to
26:51
understand
26:52
and
26:52
grow
26:52
an
26:53
understanding
26:54
of,
26:55
you
26:55
know,
26:56
a
26:56
professional
26:57
network
26:57
of
26:57
colleagues,
26:59
when
26:59
I
27:00
thought
27:00
about
27:00
our
27:01
own
27:01
school
27:01
building
27:02
and
27:02
our
27:02
school
27:02
district,
27:03
I
27:03
thought,
27:05
how
27:05
would
27:05
we
27:05
do
27:06
that
27:07
with
27:07
people
27:08
who
27:08
have
27:09
any
27:09
kind
27:10
of
27:10
lived
27:11
experience
27:11
in
27:12
common?
27:12
How
27:12
would
27:12
we
27:13
do
27:13
that?
27:14
And
27:15
we'd
27:15
have
27:15
to
27:16
work
27:16
outside
27:17
of
27:18
our
27:18
institutions,
27:19
outside
27:19
of
27:20
our
27:20
district,
27:20
to
27:21
a
27:21
larger
27:21
network.
27:23
But
27:23
it
27:23
also
27:24
made
27:24
me
27:25
realize
27:26
that
27:26
inhabiting
27:27
what
27:27
was
27:28
predominantly
27:29
a
27:29
culturally
27:29
white
27:30
space,
27:30
if
27:31
I'm
27:31
not
27:31
white,
27:32
is.
27:33
Is
27:33
a
27:34
daily
27:34
practice
27:35
in
27:35
holding
27:36
your
27:36
breath.
27:37
A
27:37
daily
27:38
practice
27:39
in
27:39
constant
27:41
self
27:41
conscious
27:42
navigation
27:43
of
27:44
those
27:44
spaces
27:46
being
27:46
ground
27:47
down
27:48
by
27:49
all
27:49
of
27:49
the
27:50
tacit
27:50
and
27:51
openly
27:52
expressed
27:53
biases
27:54
that
27:54
was
27:55
nonstop.
27:56
And
27:57
when
27:58
my
27:58
colleagues
27:59
took
27:59
a
27:59
look
27:59
at
27:59
this
27:59
research,
28:01
we
28:01
realized
28:02
that
28:03
before
28:04
we
28:04
can
28:04
begin
28:05
making
28:05
really
28:06
targeted
28:08
invitations
28:08
to
28:09
talented
28:09
candidates,
28:11
we
28:11
had
28:11
a
28:12
lot
28:12
of
28:12
work
28:12
to
28:13
do
28:13
in
28:14
our
28:14
own
28:14
buildings.
28:15
And
28:16
that
28:16
began
28:16
our
28:17
work
28:17
on
28:18
culturally
28:18
responsive
28:20
education
28:20
and
28:21
teaching
28:21
and
28:22
practice.
28:23
And
28:23
we
28:23
were
28:24
trying
28:24
to
28:24
put
28:25
the
28:25
cart
28:25
before
28:25
the
28:25
horse.
28:27
And
28:27
I
28:28
was
28:28
desperate
28:29
to
28:29
learn
28:29
about
28:30
networks,
28:31
professional
28:32
and
28:32
learning
28:33
networks
28:33
across
28:34
the
28:34
country
28:35
for
28:37
our
28:37
black
28:38
and
28:38
brown
28:38
educators
28:39
and
28:40
There
28:40
would
28:40
be
28:41
these
28:41
pockets
28:42
of
28:42
incredible
28:43
programs
28:44
in
28:44
Chicago
28:45
and
28:45
other
28:46
places
28:47
and
28:47
they
28:47
relied
28:48
on
28:48
funding
28:48
streams
28:49
that
28:49
were
28:49
so
28:49
unpredictable.
28:51
And
28:52
as
28:52
soon
28:52
as
28:52
I'd
28:52
click
28:53
and
28:54
initiate
28:54
contact,
28:55
I'd
28:56
get
28:56
messages
28:56
back
28:57
that
28:57
unfortunately,
28:58
this
28:58
program
28:58
is
28:59
no
28:59
longer
28:59
gone.
29:00
Yeah.
29:01
And
29:01
I
29:01
was
29:02
predating
29:03
your
29:03
work
29:03
because
29:04
I
29:05
would
29:05
have
29:05
found
29:05
you.
29:07
I
29:07
would
29:07
have
29:07
found
29:07
you.
29:08
But
29:09
you
29:09
know,
29:10
just
29:10
that
29:10
that
29:11
is
29:11
how
29:12
your
29:13
work
29:13
attaches
29:14
to
29:14
me
29:14
and
29:15
it's
29:15
a
29:15
slightly
29:15
different
29:16
spin
29:16
from
29:17
the
29:17
urban
29:17
educational
29:18
setting
29:18
to
29:18
the
29:18
suburban
29:19
educational
29:19
setting.
29:20
I'm
29:20
curious
29:21
though,
29:21
in
29:21
your
29:21
findings
29:23
and
29:23
in
29:23
your
29:23
experience
29:25
that
29:25
you
29:26
know
29:26
how,
29:26
how
29:26
much
29:27
of
29:29
you
29:29
know
29:29
how
29:29
much
29:30
of
29:30
the
29:30
differences
29:32
disappear
29:33
for
29:33
those
29:34
people
29:34
who
29:34
participate
29:35
in
29:35
your
29:35
program,
29:35
regardless
29:36
of
29:36
the
29:36
urban
29:36
setting,
29:36
the
29:37
suburb
29:37
setting
29:37
or
29:37
how
29:37
do
29:37
they
29:38
complicate.
29:40
So
29:41
first
29:41
of
29:41
all,
29:42
kudos
29:42
to
29:42
you
29:43
for
29:43
even
29:44
doing
29:44
the
29:45
work.
29:45
The
29:46
research,
29:47
pulling
29:47
back,
29:48
looking,
29:48
searching.
29:50
The
29:50
One
29:50
Room
29:50
schoolhouse
29:51
is
29:52
now
29:52
becoming
29:52
a
29:53
nonprofit
29:54
started
29:54
by
29:55
my
29:55
daughter.
29:56
It
29:57
will
29:57
be
29:57
completely
29:58
a
29:59
virtual
29:59
setting
30:00
where
30:01
the
30:01
one
30:01
room
30:01
schoolhouse
30:02
will
30:02
operate
30:04
and
30:04
open
30:05
to
30:05
beyond
30:05
urban.
30:07
So
30:08
yes,
30:08
we
30:08
are
30:09
beginning
30:09
that.
30:10
We
30:11
will
30:11
do
30:11
a
30:11
one
30:11
room
30:11
schoolhouse
30:12
for
30:12
teachers,
30:13
a
30:13
one
30:13
room
30:13
schoolhouse
30:14
for
30:14
leaders,
30:15
and
30:15
then
30:15
a
30:15
one
30:15
room
30:16
schoolhouse
30:16
for
30:16
consultants
30:17
because
30:18
there
30:18
is
30:18
also
30:18
a
30:18
space
30:19
where
30:20
specifically
30:21
black
30:21
consultants
30:22
feel
30:22
a
30:22
space
30:23
where
30:24
they
30:24
don't
30:24
always
30:24
feel
30:25
supported,
30:26
which
30:26
is
30:27
a
30:27
whole
30:27
different
30:27
level.
30:28
But
30:29
I
30:29
will
30:30
give
30:30
her
30:30
space
30:30
to
30:31
talk
30:31
about
30:31
her
30:31
work
30:33
at
30:34
another
30:34
time.
30:35
But
30:36
what
30:37
was
30:37
your
30:37
question
30:37
again?
30:38
Because
30:38
I
30:38
got
30:39
so
30:39
worked
30:39
up
30:39
when
30:40
you
30:41
things
30:41
you
30:41
said.
30:42
Because
30:42
I
30:43
wanted
30:43
to
30:43
give
30:43
you
30:43
your
30:44
kudos
30:44
for
30:44
doing
30:44
that.
30:45
Well,
30:45
thank
30:45
you
30:46
for
30:46
that.
30:46
But
30:47
to
30:47
me,
30:48
as
30:48
we
30:48
all
30:48
know,
30:49
it's
30:49
the
30:49
necessary
30:50
work.
30:51
We
30:51
all
30:51
need
30:51
to
30:51
be
30:51
digging
30:52
into
30:52
it.
30:52
We
30:52
all
30:52
need
30:53
to
30:53
be
30:53
doing
30:53
it.
30:54
I'm
30:55
just
30:55
going
30:55
to
30:55
say
30:55
my
30:55
only
30:56
question
30:56
at
30:56
this
30:56
point
30:57
is
30:58
I'm
30:58
going
30:58
to
30:58
be
30:58
getting
30:59
in
30:59
touch
30:59
and
30:59
how
30:59
do
31:00
I
31:00
get
31:00
in
31:00
touch
31:00
with
31:00
your
31:00
daughter
31:01
and
31:01
you
31:02
because
31:03
this
31:03
is
31:03
a
31:04
really,
31:04
really
31:04
power
31:06
and
31:06
I
31:06
want
31:06
to
31:06
make
31:06
sure
31:07
that
31:07
I
31:07
have
31:07
the
31:07
connection.
31:08
So
31:08
I
31:08
absolutely.
31:09
So
31:09
right
31:09
now
31:09
we
31:10
do
31:10
have
31:10
a
31:10
landing
31:10
space
31:11
with
31:11
contact
31:11
information.
31:12
We
31:12
haven't
31:12
built
31:13
it
31:13
out
31:13
yet,
31:13
but
31:13
I
31:13
will
31:14
say
31:14
it's
31:14
one
31:14
the
31:15
number
31:15
one
31:16
rsh.org
31:19
one
31:20
room
31:20
schoolhouse
31:21
one
31:21
rsh.org
31:23
yes.
31:24
And
31:24
she's
31:24
going
31:24
to
31:24
kill
31:24
me
31:25
for
31:25
saying
31:25
it
31:25
because
31:25
she's
31:26
going
31:26
to
31:26
like
31:26
mom,
31:26
I
31:27
didn't
31:27
build
31:27
it
31:27
out
31:27
yet.
31:29
Putting
31:29
it
31:29
out
31:30
there.
31:30
Liv.
31:30
Sorry.
31:33
Well,
31:33
that
31:33
really
31:34
leads
31:35
to
31:35
the
31:35
question
31:35
I
31:36
was
31:36
going
31:36
to
31:36
ask
31:36
Kesha,
31:37
which
31:37
was
31:37
around
31:38
the
31:38
resources
31:39
that
31:40
are
31:40
available
31:41
for
31:41
those
31:41
because
31:41
what
31:42
at
31:42
least
31:43
in
31:43
our
31:43
state,
31:43
and
31:44
I
31:44
think
31:45
in
31:45
many
31:45
states
31:46
across
31:46
the
31:46
nation,
31:46
as
31:47
we're
31:47
faced
31:47
with
31:48
shortage
31:49
in
31:49
educators
31:51
where,
31:52
you
31:52
know,
31:52
these
31:52
programs
31:53
like
31:53
grow
31:53
your
31:54
own
31:54
have
31:55
been
31:55
put
31:55
into
31:56
place.
31:56
So
31:56
we're
31:56
really
31:57
looking
31:57
at
31:57
how
31:58
do
31:58
we
31:58
attract
32:01
different
32:02
people
32:02
that
32:03
maybe
32:03
have
32:03
taken
32:04
a
32:04
different
32:04
path,
32:05
haven't
32:06
gone
32:06
into
32:06
education,
32:07
but
32:07
we
32:08
want
32:08
to
32:08
draw
32:08
them
32:09
in
32:09
what
32:09
is,
32:10
you
32:10
know,
32:10
so
32:11
it
32:11
really
32:12
relies
32:13
on
32:14
the
32:14
leaders.
32:15
And
32:15
I'm
32:15
thinking
32:15
about
32:16
everything
32:16
you
32:16
said
32:17
and
32:17
this
32:17
disheartening
32:19
research
32:20
around
32:21
leaders
32:22
not.
32:23
Being.
32:25
The
32:25
people
32:26
that
32:26
support
32:28
finding
32:28
the.
32:29
The
32:29
educators
32:30
not
32:30
finding
32:30
that
32:32
in
32:33
that
32:34
person.
32:35
So
32:36
thinking
32:36
about
32:37
these
32:37
programs
32:38
that
32:38
are,
32:38
okay,
32:39
we're
32:39
going
32:39
to
32:39
grow
32:39
our
32:40
own,
32:41
but
32:41
that
32:42
relies
32:42
heavily
32:43
on
32:44
leadership
32:44
to
32:45
be
32:45
able
32:45
to.
32:46
To
32:46
build
32:46
these
32:47
support
32:47
systems
32:49
for
32:49
our
32:49
educators.
32:50
So
32:52
thinking
32:52
about
32:53
what,
32:53
what
32:54
do
32:54
we
32:54
offer,
32:55
what
32:55
do
32:55
we
32:56
encourage
32:57
our.
32:59
Our
32:59
leaders.
32:59
Our
33:00
districts
33:00
that
33:00
are
33:01
taking
33:01
this
33:01
approach
33:02
are
33:02
states,
33:02
I
33:03
mean,
33:03
at
33:03
state
33:03
level
33:04
that
33:04
are
33:05
really
33:05
funding
33:07
considerable
33:08
amount
33:09
of
33:09
funds
33:10
to
33:10
be
33:10
able
33:11
to
33:11
attract
33:12
individuals
33:13
to
33:13
come
33:13
into
33:14
education
33:15
and
33:15
heavily
33:16
those
33:17
of
33:17
color
33:18
to
33:18
be
33:19
able
33:19
to
33:19
really.
33:19
Build.
33:22
The
33:22
educational
33:24
system
33:25
that.
33:25
Where
33:26
the
33:26
teachers
33:27
look
33:27
like
33:28
the
33:28
students
33:28
and
33:29
the
33:29
significance
33:30
and
33:30
the
33:30
importance
33:31
of
33:31
that.
33:32
What
33:32
do
33:32
we
33:32
say
33:33
to
33:33
them?
33:33
Kesha.
33:36
So
33:36
there's
33:37
been
33:37
so
33:38
many
33:40
programs
33:41
and
33:41
focus
33:42
on
33:43
the
33:44
recruitment,
33:45
but
33:46
not
33:46
enough
33:46
work
33:46
on
33:47
the
33:47
retention.
33:48
And
33:49
kudos
33:50
to
33:50
Sharif
33:51
El
33:51
Meki
33:52
in
33:52
the
33:52
center
33:52
for
33:53
Black.
33:54
Oh,
33:55
he's
33:56
going
33:56
to
33:56
kill
33:56
me.
33:56
Oh,
33:57
Sharif,
33:57
I
33:57
apologize.
33:58
Center
33:58
for
33:58
black
33:58
Education.
33:59
He
34:00
does
34:00
a
34:00
lot
34:01
of
34:01
work,
34:01
amazing
34:02
work
34:02
around
34:04
the
34:05
recruitment
34:06
of
34:06
black
34:06
educators
34:08
and
34:08
his
34:09
campaign
34:09
on
34:09
we
34:09
need
34:10
black
34:10
teachers.
34:11
I
34:11
would
34:11
want
34:11
to
34:12
draw
34:12
your
34:12
attention
34:12
to
34:13
that.
34:14
And
34:14
he
34:14
does
34:15
a
34:15
great
34:15
job
34:15
on
34:16
both
34:16
the
34:16
recruitment
34:17
and
34:18
retention
34:18
side
34:18
and
34:19
a
34:19
program
34:19
that
34:20
I
34:20
think
34:20
states
34:22
need
34:22
to
34:22
look
34:22
at
34:23
for
34:23
that
34:23
model.
34:24
I
34:25
want
34:25
to
34:26
heavily
34:27
draw
34:27
your
34:28
attention
34:28
to
34:28
his
34:28
program,
34:29
but
34:30
I
34:30
think
34:30
a
34:30
lot
34:30
of
34:31
that
34:31
funding
34:32
that
34:32
you
34:32
speak
34:32
of,
34:33
Kathy,
34:33
needs
34:34
to
34:34
transition
34:35
to
34:36
the
34:36
retention.
34:38
And
34:39
on
34:40
the
34:40
support
34:40
side,
34:41
you
34:41
know
34:42
how
34:42
we
34:42
pour
34:42
into
34:43
year
34:43
one,
34:45
we
34:45
need
34:45
to
34:45
also
34:45
take
34:46
some
34:46
of
34:46
that
34:46
investment
34:47
to
34:48
year
34:48
two,
34:49
three
34:50
and
34:51
four
34:52
and
34:52
that
34:52
year
34:52
one
34:53
support.
34:54
We
34:55
need
34:55
to
34:56
look
34:57
at
34:57
what
34:57
that
34:58
support
34:58
model
34:59
looks
34:59
like
34:59
beyond.
35:01
Here's
35:01
your
35:02
ream
35:02
of
35:02
paper,
35:03
here's
35:03
where
35:03
you
35:03
get
35:04
your
35:04
pencils,
35:05
here's
35:05
where
35:05
you
35:06
park.
35:07
Maybe
35:07
not
35:07
paying
35:08
Our
35:08
mentor
35:09
teachers
35:09
1,500
35:10
for
35:10
the
35:10
year
35:11
and
35:11
not
35:11
really
35:12
looking
35:12
at
35:12
what
35:12
that
35:14
mentor
35:14
teacher
35:15
is
35:15
providing.
35:16
How
35:16
are
35:17
we
35:17
evaluating
35:17
what
35:18
that
35:18
mentor
35:18
teacher
35:19
really
35:20
did
35:21
and
35:21
where
35:22
that
35:22
teacher,
35:23
what
35:23
that
35:24
relationship
35:24
really,
35:25
the
35:26
value
35:26
that
35:26
it's
35:26
really
35:27
brought
35:27
back
35:28
to
35:28
the
35:28
district.
35:29
Attrition
35:30
cost
35:31
the
35:31
district
35:32
approximately
35:33
12,000
35:34
per
35:35
teacher.
35:36
Let's
35:36
start
35:37
doing
35:37
that
35:37
math.
35:39
We
35:39
talk
35:39
about
35:39
humanizing
35:40
the
35:41
space
35:42
for
35:42
students,
35:43
right?
35:45
That's
35:45
what
35:45
this
35:45
wheelhouse
35:46
podcast
35:47
is
35:47
all
35:47
about.
35:47
It's
35:48
a
35:48
guiding
35:48
principle.
35:49
It's
35:49
really
35:49
important.
35:50
What
35:51
I
35:51
hear
35:51
as
35:51
I'm
35:52
listening
35:52
to
35:52
you
35:53
is
35:53
what
35:54
I'm
35:54
hearing
35:54
you
35:54
say
35:55
is
35:56
we
35:56
need
35:57
to
35:57
humanize
35:58
the
35:59
space
36:00
for
36:00
our
36:01
educators
36:01
as
36:02
well,
36:02
particularly
36:04
our
36:04
educators
36:05
of
36:06
color.
36:06
Yes.
36:08
When
36:08
you
36:08
talk
36:08
about
36:08
the
36:09
importance
36:09
of
36:09
Year
36:09
one
36:10
and
36:10
also
36:11
that
36:11
we
36:11
recognize
36:12
the
36:12
importance
36:12
of
36:12
year
36:13
four,
36:13
I
36:13
just
36:13
want
36:13
to
36:13
juxtapose
36:14
my
36:15
own
36:16
early
36:16
career
36:17
as
36:17
a
36:17
Year
36:17
four
36:17
teacher.
36:18
I
36:19
had
36:19
an
36:20
instructional
36:20
administrator,
36:21
not
36:21
a
36:22
principal,
36:22
advocating
36:23
for
36:23
me
36:24
and
36:25
finding
36:26
a
36:26
way
36:26
to
36:27
pay
36:27
for
36:28
three
36:28
weeks
36:28
of
36:29
graduate
36:29
work
36:31
at
36:32
University
36:32
of
36:32
New
36:33
Hampshire,
36:33
where
36:33
I
36:33
was
36:33
studying
36:34
with
36:34
the
36:35
authors
36:36
that
36:37
I
36:37
was
36:37
reading
36:39
that
36:39
were
36:39
informing
36:40
my
36:40
practice
36:41
as
36:41
a
36:41
teacher
36:41
of
36:42
writing.
36:43
Donald
36:44
Murray
36:44
and
36:45
Donald
36:45
Graves
36:46
and
36:47
just
36:47
so
36:48
many
36:48
other
36:48
incredible.
36:50
Bonnie
36:50
Sunstein,
36:51
incredible
36:51
people
36:52
who
36:52
I
36:52
had
36:52
been
36:52
reading.
36:53
That
36:53
was
36:53
my
36:54
Year
36:54
four.
36:55
And
36:56
what
36:56
that
36:56
did
36:57
for
36:57
me
36:58
as
36:58
a
36:58
teacher
36:58
of
36:59
writing
36:59
is
37:00
infinite.
37:02
And
37:02
the
37:03
payoff
37:03
for
37:04
every
37:05
child
37:05
I
37:05
got
37:06
to
37:06
learn
37:06
with
37:06
from
37:06
that
37:07
point
37:07
forward
37:08
was
37:08
infinite.
37:10
And
37:11
I
37:11
know
37:11
that
37:12
we
37:12
no
37:12
longer
37:13
have
37:13
that
37:13
kind
37:14
of
37:14
departmental
37:15
instructional
37:16
administrator
37:17
in
37:17
most
37:17
school
37:17
buildings
37:19
to
37:19
be
37:19
able
37:19
to
37:19
provide
37:20
that
37:20
close
37:20
oversight
37:21
and
37:21
that
37:22
shepherding.
37:23
But
37:23
we
37:23
did
37:24
once
37:25
and
37:25
it
37:26
worked
37:26
for
37:26
this
37:27
white
37:28
educator.
37:29
And
37:30
I
37:30
can
37:31
only
37:31
imagine
37:32
the
37:32
infinite
37:33
potential
37:34
of
37:34
that
37:34
kind
37:35
of
37:35
close
37:36
advocacy
37:37
for
37:37
our
37:38
newest
37:38
black
37:39
educators
37:40
in
37:40
ways
37:41
that
37:41
are
37:41
meaningful
37:42
and
37:42
expansive
37:43
and
37:43
explosive
37:44
and
37:45
infinite
37:45
for
37:45
them.
37:47
But
37:47
we're
37:48
making
37:48
this
37:48
argument
37:49
in
37:49
a
37:49
time
37:50
where
37:51
we're
37:51
struggling
37:51
to
37:52
cover
37:52
classrooms
37:52
with
37:53
bodies.
37:54
And
37:54
it's
37:54
all
37:55
just
37:55
this
37:56
perfect
37:56
storm,
37:57
this
37:57
confluence
37:58
of
37:59
systemic
38:00
under
38:00
resourcing,
38:01
historic
38:02
and
38:03
purposeful
38:03
under
38:04
resourcing,
38:05
combined
38:06
with.
38:07
And
38:08
I'm
38:08
talking
38:08
about
38:09
the
38:09
systemic
38:10
racism
38:10
of
38:12
an
38:12
educational
38:13
system
38:13
that
38:14
was
38:14
designed
38:15
to
38:15
ensure
38:16
learning,
38:16
poverty
38:18
and
38:18
deny
38:18
cognitive
38:19
justice,
38:19
to
38:19
borrow
38:20
words
38:20
from
38:20
Zaretta
38:21
Hammond.
38:22
And
38:22
now
38:23
we're
38:24
in
38:24
a
38:24
space
38:25
where
38:26
it
38:26
doesn't
38:27
matter
38:27
what
38:28
zip
38:28
code
38:28
your
38:29
school
38:29
district
38:30
is
38:30
in.
38:30
It's
38:30
going
38:31
to
38:31
experience
38:32
scarcity.
38:34
And
38:34
the
38:34
human
38:34
beings
38:35
who
38:35
continue
38:35
to
38:35
come
38:36
to
38:36
the
38:36
project
38:36
are
38:36
going
38:37
to
38:37
be
38:37
spread
38:37
thinner
38:38
than
38:38
it
38:39
works.
38:40
But
38:41
the
38:41
same
38:41
level
38:42
of
38:43
intention
38:43
and
38:44
follow
38:44
through
38:44
in
38:45
care
38:45
for
38:46
our
38:46
newest
38:47
staff
38:47
members
38:48
isn't
38:48
going
38:49
away.
38:50
We
38:50
have
38:50
to
38:51
find
38:51
a
38:51
way.
38:51
We
38:52
have
38:52
to.
38:52
And
38:53
it's
38:53
not
38:53
just
38:53
year
38:53
one.
38:54
You're
38:54
so
38:54
right.
38:56
We
38:56
also
38:56
have
38:57
to
38:57
consider
38:57
the
38:58
impact
38:58
on
38:58
students.
39:00
Last
39:00
season
39:01
we
39:01
focused
39:01
on
39:02
are
39:03
we
39:03
cultivating
39:03
hope
39:04
or
39:04
are
39:04
we
39:04
killing
39:05
dreams?
39:06
And
39:07
when
39:07
we're.
39:08
I'm
39:08
a
39:09
higher
39:09
ed
39:09
profession
39:11
and
39:11
I'm
39:12
a
39:12
professor
39:12
of
39:12
Africana
39:13
studies
39:14
and
39:14
I
39:14
teach
39:14
a
39:15
junior
39:15
senior
39:16
elective
39:17
course.
39:19
And
39:20
when
39:21
I'm
39:21
sitting
39:21
in
39:21
a
39:22
classroom
39:23
filled
39:24
with
39:24
mostly
39:25
black
39:25
and
39:25
brown
39:26
students
39:27
and
39:27
I
39:27
Ask
39:28
them
39:28
on
39:28
the
39:29
first
39:29
day
39:29
of
39:29
class
39:30
in
39:30
the
39:30
fall
39:30
semester,
39:32
okay,
39:32
why
39:32
did
39:33
you
39:33
take
39:33
this
39:33
course?
39:35
And
39:35
the
39:35
majority
39:36
of
39:36
them
39:36
say,
39:37
Dr.
39:38
Monroe.
39:38
Well,
39:38
we
39:39
want
39:39
to
39:39
take
39:39
it
39:39
because
39:40
of
39:40
the
39:40
content
39:40
and
39:41
we
39:41
heard
39:41
about
39:41
you,
39:42
but
39:42
we
39:43
also
39:43
wanted
39:44
to
39:44
have
39:44
the
39:44
experience
39:45
having
39:45
the
39:46
first
39:46
black
39:46
teacher
39:47
we've
39:47
ever
39:47
had.
39:48
So
39:48
let's,
39:49
let's,
39:50
you
39:50
know,
39:50
I'm
39:50
the
39:51
truth.
39:51
And
39:51
let's
39:52
realistically
39:53
say
39:53
that
39:53
there
39:54
is.
39:55
Now,
39:55
you
39:55
know
39:56
why
39:56
I'm
39:56
a
39:56
fan
39:57
of
39:57
the
39:57
one
39:57
room
39:58
schoolhouse.
39:58
Because
39:59
this
39:59
is
39:59
my
39:59
reality.
40:01
Right.
40:01
This
40:02
is
40:02
the
40:02
reality
40:03
of
40:04
students.
40:05
And
40:05
I
40:05
only
40:06
have
40:06
limited
40:07
space
40:07
in
40:07
my
40:07
course
40:08
and
40:08
I
40:08
only
40:08
teach
40:09
it
40:09
one
40:09
semester.
40:11
Right.
40:11
At
40:12
least
40:12
having,
40:13
you
40:14
know,
40:14
at
40:14
least
40:14
30
40:15
students
40:15
because
40:16
I
40:16
have
40:16
to
40:16
sign
40:16
them
40:17
in.
40:17
Right.
40:18
So
40:18
it's
40:18
packed
40:18
in
40:18
the
40:19
class
40:19
because
40:20
they
40:20
want
40:20
to
40:20
have
40:21
that
40:21
first
40:22
experience.
40:23
And
40:24
you're
40:24
across
40:24
the
40:25
bridge
40:25
from
40:25
Philadelphia,
40:26
which
40:26
people
40:26
assume.
40:28
They
40:28
assume
40:29
because
40:30
it's
40:30
an
40:30
urban
40:31
city,
40:31
you're
40:32
going
40:32
to
40:32
have
40:32
all
40:32
black
40:33
teachers,
40:33
which
40:33
is
40:34
not
40:34
the
40:34
case.
40:35
That
40:35
is
40:35
not
40:36
the
40:36
case.
40:37
Right.
40:37
And
40:38
think
40:38
about
40:39
the
40:39
experience.
40:39
I'm
40:39
glad
40:40
I
40:40
was
40:40
a.
40:40
I'm
40:41
a
40:41
New
40:41
York
40:41
product
40:41
of
40:42
New
40:42
York
40:42
City
40:42
public
40:43
schools.
40:44
So
40:46
I
40:46
was
40:46
rocking
40:47
with
40:47
the
40:47
black
40:47
and
40:48
brown
40:48
teachers.
40:49
Thank
40:49
God
40:49
for
40:49
that
40:50
because
40:51
that
40:51
was
40:51
an
40:51
identity
40:52
piece.
40:53
They
40:53
cultivated
40:54
hope
40:54
in
40:54
me.
40:55
You're
40:55
waiting
40:56
for
40:57
the
40:58
child's
40:58
13th,
40:59
14th,
41:00
15th
41:00
year
41:00
in
41:01
education
41:01
to
41:01
have
41:02
their
41:02
first
41:02
touch
41:04
with
41:04
someone
41:05
who
41:05
they
41:05
could
41:05
identify
41:06
with.
41:07
Right.
41:08
Someone
41:08
who
41:08
they
41:09
say
41:09
they
41:09
can
41:09
be.
41:11
Someone
41:12
who
41:12
can
41:12
process
41:13
their
41:13
experience.
41:15
Not
41:16
that
41:16
others
41:16
can't,
41:17
but
41:18
there
41:18
is
41:18
a
41:18
commonality
41:19
there.
41:21
We
41:21
have
41:21
to
41:21
think
41:22
about,
41:22
are
41:23
we
41:23
really
41:23
cultivating
41:24
hope
41:25
or
41:26
are
41:26
we
41:26
killing
41:26
dreams?
41:27
So
41:28
let's.
41:30
We
41:31
know
41:31
that
41:31
there's
41:31
a
41:32
shortage
41:33
of
41:34
teachers
41:35
of
41:35
color.
41:36
We
41:37
know
41:37
that.
41:37
I
41:37
mean,
41:38
that's
41:38
real.
41:39
We
41:40
know
41:40
there
41:40
are
41:40
shortages
41:41
of
41:41
other
41:41
teachers
41:42
and
41:43
other
41:43
leaders
41:43
who
41:44
identify
41:45
in
41:45
ways
41:46
other
41:46
than
41:49
white
41:50
cis,
41:50
whatever,
41:51
however,
41:52
whatever
41:52
identities
41:53
we
41:53
want
41:53
to
41:53
talk
41:53
about.
41:54
But
41:56
we
41:56
know
41:56
that
41:57
those
41:57
folks
41:58
are
41:59
few
41:59
and
42:00
far
42:00
between
42:01
in
42:02
a
42:02
lot
42:02
of
42:02
places.
42:03
And
42:03
I
42:03
think
42:03
that
42:04
makes.
42:04
And
42:05
then
42:06
look
42:06
at
42:06
my
42:06
calendar
42:08
and
42:08
I
42:09
see
42:09
2025.
42:11
And
42:11
Kesha
42:12
talked
42:12
about
42:12
how
42:13
very
42:13
different
42:14
the
42:14
reality
42:15
of
42:15
2025
42:16
is
42:16
from
42:16
when
42:17
she
42:17
initially
42:17
did
42:18
this
42:18
research
42:18
in
42:19
the
42:19
one
42:19
room
42:19
schoolhouse
42:20
back
42:20
in
42:20
2022.
42:23
It's
42:23
almost
42:23
like
42:23
a
42:24
different
42:24
world
42:25
that
42:25
we
42:25
live
42:26
in
42:26
in
42:27
2025.
42:28
So
42:29
my
42:29
question
42:30
for
42:30
Kesha
42:31
and
42:31
for
42:31
all
42:31
of
42:31
us
42:31
is
42:32
to
42:32
think
42:32
about.
42:33
We
42:33
need
42:33
to.
42:35
Absolutely.
42:36
We
42:36
need
42:36
to
42:36
continue
42:36
to
42:37
recruit.
42:37
We
42:38
need
42:38
to
42:38
recruit,
42:38
recruit,
42:38
recruit.
42:39
And
42:39
we
42:39
need
42:40
to
42:40
think
42:40
about
42:41
the
42:41
environments
42:42
that
42:42
we're
42:42
recruiting
42:42
them
42:42
into.
42:43
Totally.
42:43
Right.
42:44
That's
42:44
absolutely
42:45
part
42:45
of
42:45
the
42:45
Work.
42:46
But
42:46
we
42:46
also
42:46
have
42:47
to
42:47
keep.
42:48
It's
42:49
September,
42:50
so
42:50
we
42:50
have
42:51
new
42:52
teachers
42:52
of
42:52
color
42:53
who've
42:53
been
42:53
hired,
42:54
who
42:54
are
42:54
just
42:54
starting.
42:55
We've
42:55
got
42:55
teachers
42:56
of
42:56
color
42:56
who
42:56
are
42:57
just.
42:57
Who've
42:57
been
42:57
in
42:57
there,
42:57
who
42:58
are
42:58
in
42:58
year
42:58
two,
42:58
three
42:58
or
42:59
four
42:59
or
42:59
five
43:00
or
43:00
longer
43:01
who
43:01
are
43:01
starting
43:01
another
43:02
school
43:02
year.
43:03
Right?
43:03
So
43:04
I
43:04
want
43:04
to
43:04
ask
43:05
Kesha,
43:05
would
43:06
you
43:06
think
43:06
about
43:07
this
43:08
metaphorical
43:08
room
43:10
where
43:10
these
43:10
teachers
43:11
feel
43:12
supported,
43:13
empowered,
43:15
in
43:15
all
43:15
those
43:16
things
43:16
that
43:16
you
43:16
talk
43:16
about,
43:17
if
43:17
we
43:17
were
43:17
to
43:17
do
43:17
that,
43:18
what
43:18
do
43:18
we
43:18
need
43:18
to
43:19
do,
43:19
Kesha,
43:21
So
43:21
that
43:21
they
43:21
feel
43:22
those
43:22
things,
43:23
right?
43:23
So
43:24
that
43:24
we
43:24
think
43:24
as
43:25
we
43:25
focus
43:25
on.
43:25
If
43:26
I'm
43:26
a
43:26
leader
43:26
today
43:26
and
43:27
I
43:27
have,
43:28
whether
43:29
I'm
43:29
urban
43:29
or
43:29
suburban,
43:30
it
43:30
doesn't
43:30
matter,
43:30
and
43:31
I
43:31
have
43:31
teachers
43:32
of
43:32
color
43:32
in
43:32
my
43:32
building,
43:34
whether
43:34
there
43:35
are
43:35
a
43:35
lot
43:35
of
43:35
them
43:35
or
43:36
whether
43:36
just
43:36
one,
43:37
right?
43:38
What
43:38
do
43:38
I
43:38
do?
43:39
What
43:39
do
43:39
I
43:40
do?
43:40
Especially
43:41
if
43:41
I'm
43:41
a
43:41
white
43:42
principal,
43:43
what
43:44
do
43:44
I
43:44
do
43:44
to
43:44
make
43:45
sure
43:45
they
43:45
feel
43:46
seen,
43:46
heard,
43:47
supported,
43:48
empowered
43:50
so
43:50
they
43:50
can
43:51
do
43:51
the
43:51
great
43:51
work
43:51
that
43:51
we
43:52
hired
43:52
them
43:52
to
43:52
do?
43:53
Well,
43:53
first
43:54
we
43:54
need
43:55
to
43:55
model
43:55
authentic
43:56
care.
43:57
You
43:58
just
43:58
talked
43:58
about
43:59
not
43:59
killing
43:59
their
44:00
dream.
44:00
Well,
44:01
first
44:01
we
44:01
have
44:01
to
44:02
model
44:02
what
44:02
that
44:02
looks
44:03
like,
44:03
authentically.
44:04
Check
44:05
in
44:05
on
44:05
their
44:05
well
44:06
being,
44:07
not
44:07
just
44:07
their
44:07
classroom
44:08
performance.
44:10
Connect
44:10
them
44:10
to
44:11
broader
44:11
networks.
44:13
1rsh.org
44:16
eventually
44:17
it's
44:18
going
44:18
to
44:18
kick
44:18
off.
44:18
Olivia,
44:19
don't
44:19
kill
44:19
me.
44:20
You'll
44:21
have
44:21
something
44:21
besides
44:21
a
44:22
landing
44:22
page.
44:22
Right,
44:23
right,
44:23
right.
44:24
Link
44:24
them
44:24
with
44:24
supportive
44:25
professional
44:26
communities
44:26
beyond
44:27
their
44:27
immediate
44:28
school
44:28
because
44:29
again,
44:30
things
44:30
will
44:30
start
44:31
to
44:31
be
44:31
attacked,
44:32
right?
44:32
So
44:33
we
44:33
have
44:33
to
44:33
find
44:33
underground
44:34
networks.
44:36
And
44:36
again,
44:38
safe
44:38
spaces
44:39
are
44:39
going
44:40
to
44:40
be
44:40
extremely
44:41
important.
44:42
People
44:42
need
44:43
places
44:43
to
44:44
commune,
44:46
share
44:47
practical
44:47
navigation
44:48
strategies,
44:49
help
44:49
them
44:49
understand
44:50
how
44:50
to
44:50
maintain
44:51
their
44:51
own
44:51
values.
44:52
Maintaining
44:53
your
44:53
own
44:53
values,
44:55
I
44:56
have
44:56
found,
44:57
is
44:57
what's
44:57
getting
44:58
me
44:58
through
44:59
all
44:59
of
44:59
this
44:59
craziness
45:00
in
45:00
the
45:01
world.
45:01
When
45:02
you
45:02
are
45:02
grounded
45:03
in
45:03
your
45:03
own
45:03
values,
45:04
you
45:05
understand
45:06
and
45:06
keep
45:07
your
45:07
sanity
45:08
in
45:08
this
45:08
craziness.
45:10
Understand
45:10
that
45:11
I
45:11
live
45:12
in
45:12
the
45:12
Washington,
45:13
D.C.
45:13
area
45:15
and
45:15
I
45:15
wake
45:16
up
45:16
sane
45:17
every
45:17
morning.
45:19
I'll
45:19
leave
45:19
it
45:19
right
45:19
there.
45:21
It's
45:22
essential
45:22
right
45:23
now
45:23
to
45:24
provide
45:24
political
45:25
air
45:26
cover.
45:26
And
45:27
what
45:27
that
45:27
means
45:28
is
45:28
if
45:28
you're
45:28
more
45:28
experienced,
45:30
you
45:30
have
45:30
to
45:30
shield
45:31
these
45:31
newer
45:31
teachers
45:32
from
45:32
the
45:33
unnecessary
45:34
political
45:34
stress.
45:35
Whether
45:36
a
45:36
parent's
45:36
coming
45:37
in
45:37
hollering,
45:37
right?
45:38
They
45:38
still
45:38
have
45:38
to
45:39
build
45:39
their
45:39
own
45:40
practice
45:41
among
45:42
all
45:42
of
45:42
this
45:42
chaos.
45:44
So
45:44
you
45:44
need
45:45
to
45:45
shield
45:45
them
45:45
from
45:46
the
45:46
unnecessary
45:46
mess.
45:47
Why
45:47
would
45:47
you
45:47
let
45:48
a
45:48
parent
45:48
come
45:48
down
45:49
to
45:49
that
45:49
room?
45:49
So
45:49
screaming
45:50
and
45:50
carrying
45:51
on,
45:51
or
45:51
the
45:51
community
45:53
noise,
45:53
right?
45:54
You
45:54
have
45:54
to
45:55
shield
45:55
them
45:56
from
45:56
the
45:56
stress
45:57
of
45:57
all
45:57
of
45:57
the
45:58
chaos.
45:59
So
45:59
provide
46:00
that
46:00
air
46:00
covering
46:01
as
46:01
much
46:01
as
46:02
possible.
46:04
Or
46:06
co
46:06
create
46:07
a
46:07
safe
46:07
space
46:08
with
46:08
them,
46:09
or
46:09
co
46:09
lead
46:10
a
46:10
meeting
46:10
with
46:10
them
46:11
or
46:13
send
46:14
them
46:14
in
46:14
with
46:15
another
46:15
teacher
46:16
that
46:17
can
46:17
help
46:17
them
46:18
do
46:18
that.
46:19
Advocate
46:20
strategically,
46:20
share
46:21
resources
46:23
with
46:23
them,
46:24
speak
46:24
up
46:24
for
46:24
teachers
46:25
in
46:25
the
46:25
leadership
46:25
meetings
46:26
through
46:26
informal
46:27
channels
46:28
when
46:29
these
46:29
professional
46:30
learning
46:31
opportunities
46:31
may
46:31
be
46:32
limited
46:32
or
46:32
funding's
46:33
being
46:33
slashed
46:34
or
46:35
reintroduced
46:36
or
46:36
reallocated
46:37
or
46:37
all
46:38
the
46:38
things
46:38
that
46:38
are
46:38
happening.
46:39
So
46:40
those
46:40
are
46:40
just
46:40
some
46:40
quick
46:43
strategies
46:43
or
46:43
wins
46:44
or.
46:45
So
46:45
I
46:46
was
46:46
listening
46:46
to
46:46
you,
46:47
to
46:47
your
46:48
genius,
46:48
right?
46:48
And
46:49
I
46:49
was
46:49
also
46:49
thinking
46:49
about
46:51
many
46:51
of
46:51
the
46:51
people
46:51
that
46:52
I
46:52
work
46:52
with,
46:53
that
46:53
I
46:53
coach,
46:53
that
46:53
are
46:54
leaders
46:54
that
46:54
are,
46:54
you
46:55
know,
46:55
the
46:55
school
46:55
year
46:56
started,
46:56
they're
46:57
starting
46:57
to
46:57
work,
46:57
they're
46:58
starting
46:58
to
46:58
worry
46:58
about
46:59
classroom
47:00
observations,
47:01
evaluations,
47:03
walkthroughs,
47:04
you
47:05
know,
47:05
comments
47:05
that
47:06
they're
47:06
going
47:06
to
47:06
make
47:07
about
47:07
what
47:07
they
47:08
see
47:08
in
47:08
classrooms.
47:08
And
47:09
those
47:09
are
47:09
all.
47:10
Well,
47:10
I
47:10
wouldn't
47:10
say
47:10
all
47:10
of
47:11
those
47:11
because
47:11
I'm
47:11
not
47:11
an
47:11
evaluation
47:12
fan,
47:13
right?
47:13
So
47:13
I'm
47:14
like,
47:14
yeah,
47:15
right.
47:15
So
47:15
yes,
47:15
being
47:16
in
47:16
classrooms
47:16
is
47:17
important
47:17
with
47:18
the
47:18
right
47:18
mindset,
47:19
right?
47:19
But
47:20
I
47:20
was
47:20
like,
47:20
before
47:21
you
47:21
go
47:21
into
47:21
a
47:22
teacher's
47:22
classroom,
47:24
whether
47:24
you're
47:24
going
47:25
there
47:25
to
47:25
help
47:25
or
47:25
you're
47:26
going
47:26
there
47:26
to,
47:26
you
47:26
know,
47:27
unfortunately,
47:28
you
47:28
know,
47:29
check
47:29
off
47:29
a
47:29
checklist
47:30
and
47:31
do
47:31
something
47:31
like
47:31
that,
47:32
get
47:33
to
47:33
know
47:34
your
47:34
teacher,
47:36
right?
47:37
Build
47:38
the
47:38
authentic
47:39
relationship
47:40
so
47:41
that
47:41
when
47:41
that
47:41
person
47:42
comes
47:42
in,
47:43
they're,
47:44
as
47:44
Terri
47:44
Perez
47:45
says,
47:45
they're
47:45
a
47:45
friendor
47:48
friendor
47:48
is.
47:48
Such
47:49
an
47:49
important
47:49
word.
47:50
And
47:50
I
47:50
love,
47:50
love,
47:51
love
47:51
that
47:51
Terri
47:52
has
47:52
introduced
47:52
us
47:52
to
47:53
that
47:53
word.
47:54
Because
47:56
here's
47:57
my
47:57
suggestion
47:57
to
47:58
you.
47:58
Would
47:58
you
47:58
rather
47:59
that
47:59
teacher
48:00
in
48:00
your
48:00
building
48:01
or
48:04
in
48:04
the
48:04
job
48:05
line?
48:06
Because
48:07
people
48:07
assume
48:08
that,
48:08
you
48:08
know,
48:09
while
48:09
these
48:10
people
48:10
want,
48:10
they
48:11
want
48:11
to
48:11
be
48:11
here,
48:12
you
48:12
know,
48:12
it's
48:12
hard
48:12
to
48:12
find
48:13
a
48:13
job
48:14
and
48:14
right
48:15
now
48:15
the
48:15
job
48:15
market
48:15
is
48:16
challenging.
48:16
But
48:16
I
48:16
promise
48:17
you,
48:18
what
48:18
I
48:18
do
48:19
know
48:19
about
48:19
Generation
48:19
Z,
48:20
they
48:20
will
48:20
get
48:20
up
48:20
and
48:21
leave.
48:21
That's
48:22
what
48:22
I
48:22
do
48:22
know.
48:23
They
48:23
are
48:23
all
48:23
about
48:24
protecting
48:24
themselves
48:26
and
48:26
that
48:27
that's
48:27
what
48:27
they
48:27
are
48:27
teaching
48:28
the
48:28
rest
48:28
of
48:28
us.
48:30
So
48:30
say
48:30
that
48:30
again
48:31
because
48:31
I
48:31
think
48:31
if
48:31
you're
48:31
a
48:32
leader
48:32
listening
48:32
to
48:33
this
48:33
podcast
48:33
today,
48:34
I
48:35
think
48:35
that
48:35
you
48:35
need
48:35
to
48:36
really
48:36
hear
48:36
that
48:36
and
48:37
internalize
48:38
that
48:38
comment.
48:38
Could
48:39
you
48:39
repeat
48:39
that,
48:39
Dr.
48:40
Keith?
48:40
Absolutely.
48:41
This
48:41
Generation
48:42
Z
48:42
and
48:43
what
48:43
they
48:43
are
48:43
teaching
48:43
the
48:44
rest
48:44
of
48:44
us,
48:45
Me,
48:45
Keisha,
48:46
what
48:46
I
48:46
have
48:47
learned
48:48
from
48:48
Generation
48:49
Z,
48:49
from
48:50
my
48:50
own
48:50
child
48:51
who
48:51
got
48:52
up
48:52
and
48:52
left,
48:53
they
48:53
are
48:54
about
48:54
protecting
48:55
themselves
48:57
and
48:57
they
48:58
will
48:58
get
48:58
up
48:58
and
48:58
leave
48:59
to
48:59
do
48:59
that.
48:59
They
48:59
care
49:00
about
49:00
their
49:00
well
49:00
being.
49:01
They
49:01
care
49:01
about
49:02
their
49:02
emotional
49:02
health,
49:03
although
49:05
they
49:05
want
49:06
us
49:06
to
49:06
eliminate
49:07
social
49:07
emotional
49:08
learning.
49:09
They
49:09
are
49:10
the
49:10
kings,
49:11
queens,
49:12
the
49:12
rulers
49:13
of
49:13
protecting
49:14
themselves,
49:15
their
49:15
own
49:15
well
49:16
being.
49:16
Their
49:16
own
49:17
mental
49:17
health.
49:18
And
49:18
in
49:18
order
49:19
to
49:19
do
49:19
that,
49:19
they
49:20
will
49:20
get
49:20
up
49:20
and
49:20
leave
49:21
something
49:21
that
49:21
is
49:21
no
49:21
longer
49:22
serving
49:22
them.
49:23
That's
49:23
pretty
49:23
profound.
49:25
That's
49:25
a
49:26
huge
49:26
difference
49:26
between
49:27
people
49:27
from
49:27
my
49:28
generation.
49:29
Right.
49:29
Who
49:30
stick
49:31
it
49:31
out.
49:31
Right.
49:32
Who
49:32
stick
49:32
it
49:33
out.
49:34
That
49:34
was
49:35
in
49:35
drain
49:35
ingrained
49:36
into
49:36
us.
49:36
Right.
49:36
Stick
49:37
it
49:37
out.
49:37
You
49:37
know?
49:39
Absolutely.
49:39
Work,
49:40
retire.
49:41
Yeah.
49:43
Tough
49:43
it
49:44
out.
49:44
Tough
49:45
it
49:45
out.
49:45
Suck
49:45
it
49:46
up,
49:46
buttercup.
49:46
Right.
49:47
I
49:47
mean,
49:47
we
49:47
do
49:47
the
49:48
same
49:48
job
49:48
until
49:48
it's
49:49
time
49:49
to
49:49
retire.
49:50
We
49:50
all
49:50
did
49:51
it
49:51
and
49:51
what
49:51
did
49:51
it
49:51
do
49:52
for
49:52
us?
49:53
I'm
49:53
sitting
49:53
in
49:53
the
49:54
dark
49:54
now
49:54
because
49:54
of
49:55
these
49:55
migraines.
49:56
No
49:56
longer.
49:57
Your
49:58
work
49:58
with
49:58
the
49:58
one
49:59
room
49:59
schoolhouse
50:00
is
50:00
vital.
50:01
I'm
50:01
delighted
50:02
to
50:02
hear
50:02
that
50:02
it's
50:02
continuing.
50:03
But
50:03
that
50:04
is
50:04
our
50:04
way
50:04
forward.
50:05
Our
50:05
way
50:05
forward
50:06
is
50:06
to
50:06
hone
50:06
our
50:07
message
50:07
to
50:08
work
50:08
simultaneously,
50:09
not
50:10
sequentially.
50:11
We
50:11
have
50:11
to
50:12
do
50:12
as
50:12
Grant
50:13
you
50:13
suggested,
50:14
look
50:14
at
50:14
our
50:14
existing
50:15
spaces.
50:16
They
50:16
need
50:17
to
50:17
be
50:17
sustaining
50:19
and
50:19
nurturing
50:20
and
50:20
mentoring
50:21
for
50:21
our
50:21
existing
50:22
educators
50:22
of
50:23
color.
50:23
And
50:24
then
50:24
we
50:24
have
50:24
to
50:24
have
50:24
the
50:25
full
50:25
package.
50:26
When
50:26
we
50:26
go
50:26
out
50:26
and
50:27
recruit,
50:27
we
50:27
have
50:28
to
50:28
know
50:29
that
50:29
they
50:30
need
50:30
to
50:30
hear
50:30
from
50:30
us
50:31
what
50:31
their
50:32
advancement
50:33
and
50:33
their
50:33
retention
50:34
supports
50:34
are
50:35
going
50:35
to
50:35
be.
50:36
That
50:36
message
50:37
has
50:37
to
50:37
be
50:37
complete
50:37
and
50:38
full.
50:38
And
50:38
so
50:39
thank
50:39
you
50:39
for
50:39
directing
50:40
us
50:40
towards
50:41
the
50:41
center
50:42
for
50:42
Black
50:42
Education
50:44
and
50:44
Sharif
50:44
Almacki's
50:45
work,
50:45
because
50:45
I'm
50:45
going
50:45
to
50:45
be
50:46
going
50:46
there
50:47
next.
50:48
But
50:48
it's
50:49
really
50:49
about
50:50
putting
50:51
all
50:51
of
50:51
these
50:51
pieces
50:52
together
50:52
because
50:52
our
50:53
kids
50:53
can't
50:53
wait
50:54
and
50:55
they
50:55
shouldn't
50:55
have
50:55
to.
50:56
And
50:56
Michael,
50:56
to
50:56
Your
50:57
point,
50:58
into
50:59
2020,
51:00
there's
51:00
a
51:00
nonprofit
51:01
organization
51:01
called
51:02
Zero
51:02
to
51:02
Three.
51:02
They
51:03
put
51:04
put
51:04
out
51:04
a
51:04
re
51:06
a
51:06
report
51:07
called
51:07
State
51:09
State
51:09
of
51:10
State
51:10
of
51:10
babies
51:11
report
51:11
or
51:11
something
51:12
like
51:12
that.
51:12
And
51:12
it's
51:13
a
51:13
report
51:14
for
51:14
the
51:14
United
51:15
States.
51:15
And
51:15
it
51:16
used
51:16
to
51:16
do
51:17
every
51:17
state
51:17
of
51:18
the
51:18
United
51:18
States.
51:18
And
51:18
how
51:19
many
51:19
babies
51:19
were
51:19
born
51:20
for
51:20
the
51:20
year?
51:22
I
51:22
don't
51:22
know
51:22
if
51:22
they
51:23
did
51:23
it
51:23
for
51:23
this
51:23
year.
51:24
I'm
51:24
sorry,
51:24
2024,
51:25
but
51:25
I
51:25
know
51:26
it
51:26
used
51:26
to
51:26
come
51:26
out
51:26
every
51:27
year.
51:27
Well,
51:27
in
51:28
2020
51:29
and
51:29
every
51:30
year
51:30
since,
51:30
they
51:31
showed
51:31
how
51:31
many
51:32
babies
51:32
were
51:32
born
51:33
for
51:33
each
51:33
state
51:35
starting
51:35
in
51:36
2020,
51:36
more
51:37
babies
51:37
of
51:37
color
51:38
were
51:38
born,
51:39
over
51:39
50%.
51:40
And
51:40
each
51:40
year
51:41
it's
51:41
gone
51:41
up.
51:42
If
51:43
we
51:43
look
51:43
at
51:43
the
51:43
2020
51:44
data,
51:44
that
51:45
means
51:45
those
51:45
babies
51:46
are
51:46
now
51:46
in
51:46
kindergarten.
51:48
That
51:48
means
51:50
those
51:50
are
51:50
the
51:51
majority
51:51
of
51:51
students
51:51
in
51:52
our
51:52
classroom.
51:54
And
51:54
that
51:54
means
51:55
that's
51:55
the
51:55
majority
51:55
of
51:56
students
51:56
we
51:56
are
51:56
serving.
51:59
We
51:59
have
51:59
more
51:59
babies
52:00
of
52:00
color
52:01
in
52:01
our
52:01
classrooms
52:03
now
52:03
in
52:03
kindergarten
52:04
and
52:05
less
52:05
teachers
52:05
of
52:06
color.
52:06
Because
52:06
now
52:08
if
52:08
it
52:08
was
52:08
6
52:09
to
52:09
7%
52:09
Black
52:10
teachers
52:10
in
52:11
2022,
52:12
we
52:13
have
52:13
less
52:13
than
52:13
that
52:13
now.
52:14
And
52:14
with
52:15
that,
52:15
my
52:15
dear
52:15
friends.
52:16
That
52:16
brings
52:16
us
52:17
to
52:17
the
52:17
end
52:17
of
52:17
this
52:18
episode
52:18
for
52:18
the
52:19
Wheelhouse.
52:19
I
52:19
want
52:20
to
52:20
say
52:20
thank
52:20
you
52:21
so
52:21
much
52:22
Dr.
52:22
Kesha
52:22
Chandler,
52:23
the
52:23
author
52:24
who
52:25
spearheaded
52:26
the
52:26
One
52:26
Room
52:26
Schoolhouse
52:27
research
52:28
and
52:28
the
52:28
work
52:28
that's
52:29
coming
52:30
in
52:30
the
52:30
future.
52:30
I
52:30
want
52:31
to
52:31
say
52:31
thank
52:31
you
52:32
so
52:32
much
52:32
for
52:33
joining
52:33
us
52:33
today
52:34
in
52:35
the
52:35
Wheelhouse.
52:35
And
52:36
if
52:36
you
52:36
want
52:36
to
52:36
HEAR
52:36
More
52:37
from
52:38
Dr.
52:38
Kesha
52:38
Chandler,
52:39
then
52:39
stay
52:40
tuned
52:40
because
52:41
we're
52:41
about
52:41
to
52:41
record
52:42
a
52:42
two
52:42
part
52:43
season
52:43
finale
52:44
with
52:45
all
52:45
of
52:45
our
52:45
guests
52:46
from
52:46
season
52:46
10.
52:47
We'll
52:47
see
52:47
you
52:48
next
52:48
week
52:48
in
52:49
the
52:49
Wheelhouse.
52:56
And
52:56
that's
52:56
a
52:56
wrap
52:56
of
52:57
season
52:57
10,
52:58
episode
52:58
10
52:59
of
52:59
the
52:59
Wheelhouse.
53:00
A
53:00
special
53:00
thank
53:01
you
53:01
to
53:01
my
53:01
incredible
53:02
guest
53:02
Dr.
53:02
Kesha
53:03
Chandler
53:03
and
53:04
the
53:04
amazing
53:04
Wheelhouse
53:05
team,
53:05
Kathy
53:06
Mone,
53:06
Michael
53:07
Pipa
53:07
and
53:08
Dr.
53:08
Alicia
53:09
Monroe.
53:10
You
53:10
know
53:10
we're
53:10
back
53:11
in
53:11
the
53:11
studio
53:11
next
53:11
week
53:12
with
53:12
part
53:12
one
53:13
of
53:13
a
53:13
two
53:13
part
53:14
finale
53:14
for
53:15
season
53:15
10.
53:16
It's
53:16
like
53:16
a
53:16
Bravo
53:17
reunion
53:17
if
53:18
you
53:18
will.
53:18
We've
53:19
invited
53:19
all
53:20
seven
53:20
of
53:20
our
53:21
guests
53:21
from
53:22
season
53:22
10
53:23
to
53:23
return
53:23
to
53:23
the
53:23
Wheelhouse
53:24
space
53:25
together
53:26
to
53:26
engage
53:27
with
53:27
our
53:27
own
53:27
team
53:28
to
53:28
explore
53:29
what
53:29
we've
53:30
learned
53:30
about
53:30
cultivating
53:31
open
53:32
doors
53:32
and
53:32
unlimited
53:33
possibilities
53:34
for
53:34
each
53:34
student.
53:35
Part
53:36
one
53:36
of
53:36
this
53:36
conversation
53:37
will
53:37
drop
53:38
on
53:38
September
53:38
23rd
53:39
with
53:39
the
53:40
second
53:40
part,
53:40
the
53:41
end
53:41
of
53:41
season
53:42
10,
53:42
dropping
53:43
on
53:43
September
53:44
30th.
53:44
This
53:45
is
53:45
simply
53:46
something
53:46
you're
53:47
not
53:47
going
53:47
to
53:48
want
53:48
to
53:48
miss.
53:49
We
53:49
also
53:50
hope
53:50
you'll
53:51
join
53:51
the
53:51
Wheelhouse
53:51
Company.
53:52
Are
53:52
you
53:53
a
53:53
like
53:53
minded
53:53
educator
53:54
who's
53:54
committed
53:55
to
53:55
open
53:55
doors
53:56
and
53:56
unlimited
53:57
possibilities
53:57
for
53:58
each
53:58
student?
53:59
Follow
54:00
Students
54:00
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54:01
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54:01
on
54:02
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54:02
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54:04
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54:04
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54:04
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54:04
the
54:05
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54:05
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54:05
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54:05
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54:06
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54:06
are
54:07
also
54:07
on
54:07
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54:09
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54:09
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54:09
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54:10
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54:11
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54:11
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54:12
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54:13
waiting
54:13
to
54:13
hear
54:13
your
54:13
comments
54:14
and
54:14
we're
54:14
all
54:14
super
54:15
excited
54:16
to
54:16
continue
54:16
this
54:17
conversation
54:17
with
54:18
you.
54:18
That's
54:19
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54:23
or
54:24
join
54:24
the
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54:25
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54:27
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54:28
available
54:28
at
54:29
Students
54:29
Matter's
54:30
very
54:30
own
54:30
Learn
54:31
Harbor.
54:32
That's
54:32
learnharbor.thinkific.com
54:37
the
54:38
Wheelhouse
54:38
is
54:38
a
54:39
production
54:39
of
54:39
Students
54:40
Matter
54:40
LLC.
54:41
Our
54:42
show's
54:42
theme
54:42
music,
54:43
Off
54:43
We
54:43
Go
54:44
was
54:44
written
54:44
and
54:45
performed
54:45
by
54:45
Cody
54:46
Martin
54:46
and
54:47
obtained
54:47
through
54:47
soundstripe.com
54:49
stop
54:50
by
54:50
our
54:50
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54:50
find
54:51
out
54:51
who
54:51
we
54:51
are
54:52
and
54:52
what's
54:53
important
54:53
to
54:53
us
54:54
at
54:54
www.ourstudentsmatter.org.
54:59
together,
54:59
our
54:59
goal
54:59
is
55:00
simply
55:00
to
55:00
prove
55:01
to
55:01
each
55:01
student
55:01
and
55:02
to
55:02
each
55:02
teacher
55:03
that
55:03
they
55:03
are
55:04
both
55:04
distinctive
55:05
and
55:05
irreplaceable.
55:07
Until
55:07
next
55:07
time.
55:07
Remember,
55:08
we
55:09
got
55:09
this.