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- 0:32The B-Side in boxing.
- 0:33B-Side shit.
- 0:34B-Side.
- 0:35B-Side.
- 0:36And the B-Side.
- 0:36You got a B-Side.
- 0:37The B-Side.
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- 0:42This is the B-Sides boxing podcast.
- 0:46["B-Sides in Boxing"]
- 0:49["B-Sides in Boxing"]
- 0:52All right, boxing B-sides.
- 0:55What's that?
- 0:55Did Artur Beterbiev -- Bivol just happen?
- 0:58It sure did, but we're not talking about it this week.
- 1:02So you'll have to tune in next time on Dragon Ball Z.
- 1:05It was crazy.
- 1:06It was crazy.
- 1:07I'm sure it was a wonderful time.
- 1:10I loved it.
- 1:12Let's get into...
- 1:16This one is a recap.
- 1:19This from UFC, the Fight Night card, Jared Kennanier.
- 1:24Mm-hmm.
- 1:25Verso Rodriguez was...
- 1:28It was fun.
- 1:30Kennanier, old man, pulls it out.
- 1:33He's...
- 1:34You'd love to see it.
- 1:35He lives where...
- 1:36He's from the same city that I grew up in.
- 1:40Really?
- 1:41Yeah, it was pretty cool.
- 1:42That's awesome.
- 1:42For the people who want to stalk Leo here,
- 1:45I mean, there you go.
- 1:46Yeah.
- 1:47See that clip right there.
- 1:48Yeah, come to my face and come tell me to my face
- 1:51how casual you think I am.
- 1:53I'm still fucking fuming about that from last week.
- 1:56I'm still...
- 1:56I'm still fucking mixed.
- 1:59It's okay, bro.
- 2:00No worries, no worries.
- 2:01Right, moving to some news here.
- 2:03We got on the...
- 2:04Both of these are in May.
- 2:06One of them is date yet to be determined.
- 2:09Josh Taylor versus Echo Esuman at welterweight.
- 2:13I don't really care for...
- 2:14Welter?
- 2:15Yeah, I don't care for Josh Taylor, so...
- 2:18Josh Taylor at welterweight is crazy.
- 2:19That's not gonna be good, but we'll see.
- 2:23I'm sure they picked this Esuman guy for a reason.
- 2:27Oh yeah.
- 2:27Josh Taylor's with TopRank, right?
- 2:30He's still with TopRank?
- 2:31No, he's at Matchroom.
- 2:33He's at Matchroom now?
- 2:34Queensberry.
- 2:36Oh, Queensberry, okay, okay.
- 2:37Yeah, which they partner with TopRank anyway, so...
- 2:41Okay, okay, okay.
- 2:42I remember that one time Bob said,
- 2:44I don't know if y'all remember,
- 2:47I will not...
- 2:48Wait, hold on, I gotta do the Bob voice.
- 2:50I will not bring another fighter to England ever again.
- 2:56I remember that.
- 2:59Do people wanna call and tell me how bad
- 3:02my impression of Bob Aaron was?
- 3:04Go ahead.
- 3:05833luxpods, get in it.
- 3:10Echo Esuman, whatever.
- 3:13May 10th, Anthony Kakachi versus Lee Wood,
- 3:16IBF 130 pound title.
- 3:19That should be fun.
- 3:21I expect, I'm hopeful that Lee Wood takes it.
- 3:25Cause Kakachi's kind of a dirty fighter.
- 3:29Past the point of, where I usually say
- 3:32if the ref's not calling it, that means it's legal.
- 3:36But it's a little bit past that point for Kakachi.
- 3:40It's bad.
- 3:40Yeah, it's pretty rough to watch sometimes.
- 3:43So hopefully, Lee Wood pulls it out.
- 3:46He's on a resurgence as well.
- 3:49Let's go.
- 3:52Hold on, I wanna see.
- 3:54He fought Mauricio Lara twice.
- 3:57Lada.
- 3:58Yeah. Lada.
- 4:00So between beating the shit out of Michael Conlon,
- 4:06the two Lada fights, he lost one, he came back
- 4:10and he boxed one pretty soundly and got the dub anyway.
- 4:13And Lara missed weight.
- 4:16And then he beats the shit out of Josh Warrington.
- 4:19So that just makes me really happy.
- 4:22Crazy, huh?
- 4:23Yeah.
- 4:23This is a great run.
- 4:25I hope he does, he beats Kakachi as well.
- 4:29Hopefully.
- 4:30Recaps, not a whole lot on this one,
- 4:34but we do have some fun.
- 4:37Top rank on Valentine's Day.
- 4:40Sidney Sweeney said no.
- 4:42When I asked her to go out with me to be my Valentine,
- 4:46she said no, it's all good.
- 4:47I, whatever.
- 4:50Starting off, we had Juanma Lopez.
- 4:54This is Juanita, excuse me.
- 4:57He's the son of Juanma Lopez.
- 4:59That Juanma Lopez gets a stoppage in the first.
- 5:02Shit wasn't even close.
- 5:04So that was a little crazy, huh?
- 5:06Yeah.
- 5:07Keon Davis, DB3.
- 5:10One of the- DB3 on me.
- 5:12One of the Fighting Davis brothers stops Ira Johnson in two.
- 5:18Congrats.
- 5:21We're getting into some funny shit right now, huh?
- 5:23Nico, Ollie Walsh.
- 5:25Nico, Nico, Nico.
- 5:26Drops the fucking ball.
- 5:29Loses the split decision to Juan Carlos Guerra.
- 5:34Did you guys know, hold up.
- 5:36Leo, did you know that he's actually related to Muhammad Ali?
- 5:38Bullshit, that's not possible.
- 5:41I mean, I can't believe Top Ring has me
- 5:43talking about that actually.
- 5:44I'm surprised.
- 5:45Like ever.
- 5:46You would think that would be something
- 5:47they shove down your fucking throat.
- 5:49I know, huh?
- 5:50All the time, but they don't.
- 5:53Fucking Nico.
- 5:55But he is not like his grandpa at all.
- 5:59The apple has fallen quite far from the tree.
- 6:02It's fallen in the river.
- 6:03Yes.
- 6:07No.
- 6:08Like no notes.
- 6:09I don't wanna dunk on this fellow anymore
- 6:12than life is already dunking on him.
- 6:18Moving up.
- 6:19My last year, I wanna say last year,
- 6:22prospect of the year.
- 6:24If not, it was 2023.
- 6:26TKO for Abdullah Mason gets the win over Manuel James.
- 6:31That was brutality.
- 6:33Mason just picked him apart
- 6:35like a fucking rotisserie chicken from Costco.
- 6:39That name actually sounds familiar.
- 6:40I wonder who he's fought.
- 6:42Manuel James fought Raleigh, I believe.
- 6:44That's right, that's right.
- 6:46So for Abdullah Mason to get him out that fast,
- 6:48which is Rowley.
- 6:49Yeah, that sounds like something.
- 6:52Rowley can roll the fuck off.
- 6:54Because damn, Abdullah Mason is on it.
- 6:57Yeah, Abdullah Mason is, whatever happened in the last fight,
- 7:03was it shaky?
- 7:04Yeah.
- 7:04Yes, it was.
- 7:05He got knocked down like three times,
- 7:07I think twice in one round.
- 7:09Of course, yeah, that's a really shaky performance,
- 7:12but let's cut the hyperbole, the negative hyperbole,
- 7:15and get back on the positive hyperbole,
- 7:18where Abdullah Mason is the next version,
- 7:20the reincarnation of Floyd Mayweather.
- 7:23Pretty boy Floyd.
- 7:25I believe that, honestly, that Abdullah Mason was robbed
- 7:30by a prospect of the year.
- 7:32I love Moza Tama, just like every other guy.
- 7:37He's got some fun knockouts, and that's it.
- 7:39That's the only difference.
- 7:40Yeah.
- 7:41And he's a heavyweight, and he's British.
- 7:43He's also Riyadh's guy, too.
- 7:47Right, exactly.
- 7:48That's another reason why he won.
- 7:49He's linked up.
- 7:50That's the only reason why I think that he was robbed,
- 7:54was just because of that.
- 7:55Because I love Moza Tama, too, don't get me wrong.
- 7:57I think Abdullah Mason deserved it a little more.
- 8:00Moving up, recent acquisition Vito Melnicki
- 8:03gets a draw with Connor Coyle.
- 8:05Melnicki was in trouble more often than Connor Coyle was.
- 8:09Left a lot to be desired from Melnicki,
- 8:12who was once like one of those hot prospects
- 8:14on the PBC side of the house.
- 8:16You always see a top-rank guy go to PBC,
- 8:20but you never really see a PBC guy go to top rank.
- 8:23It's one of the few, yeah.
- 8:24One of the few.
- 8:26Moving up, Rohan Polanco gets a stoppage in two.
- 8:32Is this the guy who's from, he's Dominican?
- 8:35I believe so.
- 8:38Yeah, because these are the welterweights.
- 8:40And he's, I'm trying to remember.
- 8:44Somebody was saying something about him being like,
- 8:47I put it in the Hall of Fame.
- 8:49I didn't catch too much of Rohan Polanco's fight.
- 8:51How did that go?
- 8:52It was just an ass kicking.
- 8:53It got stopped in the second.
- 8:55I do know a lot of people are saying that Rohan Polanco
- 8:57is going to be the future.
- 8:59Terrence Crawford's right hook.
- 9:02I call him a raptor hook in the
- 9:06pickling.
- 9:06It's fun.
- 9:08Polanco is who Benavides fans claim Benavides is.
- 9:12And then I was there, David.
- 9:14David. Oh, OK.
- 9:16Oh, shit. Yeah.
- 9:17And oh, the response to that was, are you still really on this
- 9:22after the monster did your boy dirty?
- 9:25Ted's Ted's crazy.
- 9:27Yeah, that's actually crazy.
- 9:30Yeah. What are you talking about, man?
- 9:32Why? How are you going to say this when Benavides
- 9:35just beat the ever loving fuck out of David Morell?
- 9:38Yeah, that's wild to say, actually.
- 9:40That's actually wild. Yeah, quite.
- 9:43But seriously, though, Polanco does.
- 9:46He does look good very much.
- 9:48Not at all a problem to like get on the hype train now,
- 9:51you know, by the stock early.
- 9:53It makes perfect sense. But like, let's chill out with the
- 9:58he's like better than David Benavides.
- 10:00That is that as well.
- 10:01I'm never can agree with that for now.
- 10:04That's a little too much for now.
- 10:06Yeah, we'll see.
- 10:08Moving up, Jared Anderson is back after his loss to
- 10:12Martin Bacoli,
- 10:14who you need over Marios Collias.
- 10:17And it was pretty shitty.
- 10:22At what one thing I can a good thing,
- 10:25and this is silver linings that Tim Bradley,
- 10:30at the very least, was saying Jared Anderson looks like shit.
- 10:35He wasn't saying, oh, wow, this is like a reborn Jared
- 10:38Anderson or anything like that.
- 10:40Man, shut up.
- 10:41This is the best I've ever seen Jared Anderson.
- 10:43Yeah, no, none of that.
- 10:45He was very honest, saying like, I don't know what the hell is wrong with him.
- 10:49But he needs he needs to he needs to make some changes.
- 10:54Who is Jared Anderson trade by?
- 10:56If he wanted to kill me to this, Jared Anderson,
- 11:00he is the last bashing him and Richard Torres Jr.
- 11:03But don't even start a road tour.
- 11:04So I'm going to go on a whole thing.
- 11:07But he's the last show.
- 11:09He's my sugar hill. Yeah.
- 11:11Oh, shit. No, sugar.
- 11:13Yeah, no, I take that back.
- 11:14What the hell? No sugar.
- 11:16Stewart, we're cleaning with Javon Sugarhill.
- 11:20He does not put the K1 cronk. I'll tell you that.
- 11:23Jared Anderson does not put the K1 cronk.
- 11:26He's the nephew of Emmanuel Stewart for the people.
- 11:31Or should I say now I'm not going to be that ballsy, actually.
- 11:33That's kind of mean for the people that do not know.
- 11:36I'll just say that I'm not going to say the word casuals.
- 11:39But Jared Anderson, yeah, I don't know.
- 11:41Nothing more to say on it.
- 11:42He looked like ass. I'm surprised he got the win,
- 11:46to be honest with you.
- 11:48Like it was that bad. Beat down Zander.
- 11:51Fuckin Zayas TK09 over Slava Spomber.
- 11:57The Spomber's super tough, got his ass beat all nine rounds
- 12:01when he took eight of them really well.
- 12:03Solid win. He was undefeated.
- 12:05Yeah. Up until that point.
- 12:07It's all right.
- 12:08Was even dumb ever in his career.
- 12:11Spomer. Yeah.
- 12:14Not that I'm seeing.
- 12:16No, that's that's that's a pretty solid win for Zander.
- 12:19Yeah, it's all right.
- 12:20He got he's like a.
- 12:23Neighborhood good kind of guy.
- 12:25Only Germany, one fight in Dubai.
- 12:29Good in the hood. Yeah.
- 12:31And it's all right, though, still decent when kind of the level
- 12:34you would want a young guy like Zander to be at.
- 12:39We'll see what happens with him in a couple of years.
- 12:41What he should be doing is calling out like Virgil Ortiz or.
- 12:44He's not that guy or anyone, anyone that's at the elite level.
- 12:49But you know your role right now.
- 12:52I love I like when a fighter calls out, you know, obviously the best.
- 12:57But the thing is, you also got to know where you stand in the world.
- 13:00A boxing. Yeah.
- 13:01You got to be realistic. Don't call out a virtual tease.
- 13:04Maybe while I went before, who's been
- 13:07who's been kind of had a bad rap lately. Tim Zou.
- 13:12Maybe he's had a hard time.
- 13:14She could fight cops and that'd be a good fight with him for him.
- 13:16A good step up fight.
- 13:18For Zander Zayas step up.
- 13:20But I think Bochuk would beat his ass.
- 13:21Well, Bochuk. Well, that's kind of a yeah.
- 13:25I would say, yeah, I guess that's a little more of a higher tier.
- 13:28Yeah, you're right. That is.
- 13:30Whereas was named Tim Zou's kind of really on the on the
- 13:34on the downward spiral of his career.
- 13:36Unfortunately, yeah.
- 13:38But we'll we'll see what happens with that.
- 13:40But that would be a good opponent for Zander Zayas.
- 13:43Brandon Adams and Andreas Katsarakis.
- 13:47Those two won the overtime tournament last year.
- 13:51So that's a good one.
- 13:53Either one of those. Oh, good.
- 13:54Oh, oh, yeah. That's another one, too.
- 13:56You wouldn't expect an OTX guy like Bochuk, because Bochuk was on OTX.
- 14:02Was he right? I don't think that's how you I thought you thought
- 14:05Brandon Adams on OTX.
- 14:07No, he fought Brandon Adams at Hollywood Fight Nights, I believe.
- 14:11It was all Puerto Rico.
- 14:15To the people watching my casual, my casualness is showing right now.
- 14:20This was a 360 promotions thing and Kodo promotions as well.
- 14:26Oh, OK, OK.
- 14:28Oh, no, I'm thinking of Charles Conwell.
- 14:30That's why that Chris Colbert.
- 14:31So we were talking about earlier.
- 14:33That's why I think Charles Conwell would be a good fight for
- 14:37for Zander Zayas.
- 14:38You think Jesus Ramos is out of reach?
- 14:41I actually know that that him.
- 14:43Yeah, that's not out of reach at all.
- 14:45I feel like Jesus would beat his ass.
- 14:47No, I think that would be a good fight.
- 14:50A good scrappy fight.
- 14:51That would be a good test for him.
- 14:53Him or Brian Mendoza, both of those two.
- 14:55Brian Mendoza is a fucking gangster.
- 14:58Too tough for his own good.
- 14:59I think those two would be damn good fights for for Zander Zayas to try out.
- 15:05There's this guy from Angola.
- 15:09He fights out of Portugal now.
- 15:11His name is Lisa, Lisa Lima.
- 15:15Oh, Lima. Yeah.
- 15:17Lima is a good one.
- 15:19He just beat an Indian prospect
- 15:22who was undefeated at the time.
- 15:25Yeah, it will be pretty good.
- 15:27Lima is a good one.
- 15:28He has the IBO title.
- 15:30It's the type of shit that Zander should be getting as he moves up.
- 15:34Yeah, first, you got to get the IBO.
- 15:36Yeah, that's your that's like the end of the if you're not going to do the
- 15:40continental Americas,
- 15:43uh, I don't know, Easter Island title.
- 15:47Well, you got to get you got to get you got to get the IBO.
- 15:50Yeah, you got to go for IBO.
- 15:52But top rank usually keeps all of their shit.
- 15:55WBO typically.
- 15:59Yeah, usually, usually.
- 16:01I'm sure he would think that's beneath him.
- 16:03But Josh Kelly's got anybody.
- 16:06But I think you should start doing the top 10.
- 16:09Anyone in the top 10, not top 15, actually, not top 15.
- 16:13Not more to Zaliv, not Madrimov, not both.
- 16:17No title holders.
- 16:18No one your title holders.
- 16:19No, you got to get like the second to final eliminators.
- 16:22I would go with top 20.
- 16:24Yeah, top 20 is my bad from the from he's at number five.
- 16:27So five down to 20.
- 16:29Yeah, pretty much anyone there is game.
- 16:32Could fight Nikita's you.
- 16:35There you go. Beat is beat him and then get Tim fired up.
- 16:39Exactly. And that would be a good fight in Australia.
- 16:41They wanted to. So that's there you go.
- 16:44Speaking of fun, Keishon Davis, that was handling some fucking business.
- 16:48Now he was the businessman.
- 16:51Shall we talk about the
- 16:53the new developments before that fight?
- 16:57Go ahead.
- 16:57Um, are we allowed in this?
- 17:00Say whatever you like. I can cut whatever the rate.
- 17:03The racist stuff that was.
- 17:05Yeah, the shit that who depends on who it was.
- 17:09Do we know who it was?
- 17:11Well, we keep Keishon said it could have been Teofimo.
- 17:14At first, he was blaming Baron Shick, but he also said that he apologized.
- 17:18And I guess he found out it was a Baron Shick for some reason
- 17:21and that he thinks it's Teofimo.
- 17:23OK, interesting.
- 17:25So for the uninitiated, somebody sent a box of bananas and a watermelon
- 17:32to Keishon before the fight.
- 17:35He was at a hotel before the fight, and they sent it to him.
- 17:39And it said, like, and here's a snack for after your height jumps.
- 17:45Businesswoman businesswoman, which the reason Keishon jumped
- 17:48to the conclusion was the timing of it.
- 17:51The press there had just been a press event where
- 17:54Baron Shick called Keishon businesswoman.
- 17:57So the timing, I understand why he jumped to that conclusion.
- 18:02It makes sense to me.
- 18:04I thought it was Baron Shick or someone from his team.
- 18:06I thought so, too. At first, that would make sense.
- 18:09But, well, I don't know.
- 18:12He's Ukrainian, too. They really.
- 18:14I've never really seen too much like that.
- 18:17You know what I mean?
- 18:19Race is different over there.
- 18:21They're like a little bit more casual about their racism.
- 18:24Like, yeah, like Sergey Kovalev back in the day
- 18:28when he was beefing with a Donna Stevenson.
- 18:30Yeah. Well, that was he was like, yeah, Stevenson's
- 18:35a crappy character, but nonetheless, stuff like calling him gorilla
- 18:41or calling him a monkey.
- 18:42Yeah, that was some crazy shit.
- 18:45That's it's kind of like normal for them.
- 18:48And it's not cool, but.
- 18:50It's not very nice.
- 18:53No, it's not at all, but it's just how they are.
- 18:56Kind of. Oh, yeah.
- 18:57They need to learn better, but that's how they are.
- 19:00But there you go.
- 19:02Keishon handled his business.
- 19:03Body shot, too.
- 19:05Oh, body shot chaos are the best.
- 19:08Mm hmm.
- 19:09I'll be very underrated, but very beautiful.
- 19:11Yeah. I'm not sure what else to make of it.
- 19:15It was a quick stoppage for four rounds.
- 19:18Like, is Berenshik overrated or is Keishon better than we thought?
- 19:23I don't think I think that I think Berenshik was scared.
- 19:26You think so?
- 19:27I think he was scared because honestly, people call him a bum.
- 19:31I don't really consider Berenshik a bum because he had to have had the title for a reason.
- 19:35He beat Navarrete.
- 19:37Exactly. I mean, well, Navarrete, he's not exactly the best,
- 19:41but he's still a solid fighter enough to, you know,
- 19:44he's still enough of a solid fighter to put up a fight.
- 19:48Yeah. You know what I mean?
- 19:49Something like that.
- 19:51But Keishon, oh my God, they gave me the chills when I was watching it because what was the name?
- 19:56Big Bud? Yeah.
- 19:58He put into light and it really, I really like it really blew me away when he said that.
- 20:04It was like watching a young Terrence Crawford because he was right.
- 20:07I haven't felt like that since watching someone like Terrence Crawford.
- 20:10Come on up. You know what I mean?
- 20:11Terrence Crawford at 135 was the beast.
- 20:14Yeah. How the fuck did he ever make that weight?
- 20:18I don't know. Considering now he's going to fight Cinnamon.
- 20:21Oh, yeah. That's what the hell.
- 20:24Now that that that was that's beautiful.
- 20:28Yeah, it was an amazing performance.
- 20:31Yeah. Looking at Boxwreck, of course, take that.
- 20:35Take it with a grain of salt.
- 20:36He's at number seven.
- 20:39Ahead of him, Ray Murataya.
- 20:42I really like Ray, but Kishon beats him.
- 20:45I don't know why he's ranked that high, but I mean, yeah, he's a good guy, but he just
- 20:51come on, you know, he that, you know, that type of guy like Kishon.
- 20:56William Zepeda.
- 20:58I disagree with that as well.
- 21:00I highly disagree.
- 21:02I think I think Zepeda is like number 10.
- 21:05I don't you can hate me all you want.
- 21:08If you want to send.
- 21:09No, I'm sorry. I'm talking to people.
- 21:10If they want to call in, tell me how wrong I am.
- 21:13So Abdullah Mason's at 10.
- 21:16Shurichio Yoshino is at nine.
- 21:19That is crazy.
- 21:20No, no, I disagree with that.
- 21:21So Zepeda is above those two?
- 21:23Yeah, yeah.
- 21:24All right.
- 21:25I think I think Kishon's above Zepeda and Murataya.
- 21:30And Abdulayev, I assume as well.
- 21:32Yeah.
- 21:33Oh, yeah.
- 21:34Right now he is.
- 21:35He has to be.
- 21:36Top three are Tank, Shakur and LomaChenko.
- 21:42Well, the thing is Loma is out.
- 21:45I think he's out.
- 21:46He's gone.
- 21:47I think so, too.
- 21:48He'll be.
- 21:49They already they're already playing to vacate the title.
- 21:51I'm pretty sure.
- 21:52Right.
- 21:53He's got three months and it'll be a year out.
- 21:56I personally want to take to fight Loma.
- 21:58That's never going to happen.
- 21:59Honestly, I think Tanks going out the door to you think soon.
- 22:03I think he is.
- 22:04I think he's going to have one more fight in him.
- 22:06We'll see how he talks after the Roach fight.
- 22:09Hopefully he fights someone noteworthy.
- 22:12He's not fighting Shakur.
- 22:13He probably won't fight Kishon.
- 22:16I don't know who's going to fight, but he needs to fight someone good.
- 22:18He's not fighting Ryan.
- 22:20I know people have been talking about that recently.
- 22:22Kishon and Ryan?
- 22:23No, no.
- 22:24Tank and Ryan rematch.
- 22:25Oh, no.
- 22:26Before the Haney stuff came out.
- 22:27I know they were mentioning that again.
- 22:28Nobody needs to see that, but I don't know who Tanks going to fight.
- 22:29Tank and Ryan.
- 22:30Tank and Ryan.
- 22:31Tank and Ryan.
- 22:32Tank and Ryan.
- 22:33Tank and Ryan.
- 22:34Tank and Ryan.
- 22:35I think Kishon, if he wanted a big fight, the biggest fight he could have would probably
- 22:39be with Kishon.
- 22:40But other than that, Shakur, but she's not going to fight Shakur because Shakur doesn't
- 22:43want to fight him.
- 22:44Oh, they're stable mates, aren't they?
- 22:46Yeah, Shakur and Kishon are stable mates.
- 22:49Yeah, they're like friends or whatever.
- 22:51They don't want to fight.
- 22:53Yeah, they can't.
- 22:54That'd be wrong.
- 22:55It would be.
- 22:56I can't see BOMAC running across the ring.
- 22:59I can't see BOMAC running.
- 23:01I can't see.
- 23:04Yeah, BOMAC can't run.
- 23:07So looking at the other title holders, Kishon with WBO, Lobachenko has IBF, probably going
- 23:14to get vacated.
- 23:15Shakur WBC, Tank WBA.
- 23:19Let me pull up the IBF possibles.
- 23:24I'm pretty sure it was Murtaj and then it was named like Zaur.
- 23:30Zaur Abdulayev, who is just above Kishon in the rankings.
- 23:34Yeah, I don't agree with that either.
- 23:36But yeah, those two of the the way that the IBF works, they always have their one and
- 23:45two spots vacant.
- 23:47They do this so that they don't have to order mandatories.
- 23:51And basically number three is where the rankings begin.
- 23:56But Abdulayev is in number two, so he has to he's he's a mandatory now.
- 24:03And if Lomachenko doesn't take it, then he's going to be stripped of the title.
- 24:07Well, we'll see what happens with that.
- 24:10We'll see if Lomachenko comes back, which again, I doubt.
- 24:13I don't think he's coming back either.
- 24:15Like the according to top rank and PBC people, like spokespeople, negotiations for Tank and
- 24:23Lomachenko were going really well.
- 24:26They just pulled out out of nowhere.
- 24:28So he probably just doesn't have any more.
- 24:31He probably I think a good that was a good I guess last fight against Kambosis.
- 24:35It was a big champion last time, but it would have been really crazy to see him fight Tank,
- 24:40you know.
- 24:41Yeah.
- 24:42And Tank, I think that could have been a big pretty good pay per view.
- 24:44Really big.
- 24:45I would have loved it.
- 24:47Yeah.
- 24:48Life disappoints all the time.
- 24:49You know.
- 24:50Yeah.
- 24:51Makes you want to cry.
- 24:52So he's in the number two slot as a man for mandatory number three, four and five are
- 24:58Andy Cruz, Murataya and Mark McSio.
- 25:01Oh, actually, that's a good fight in the future.
- 25:04Key John versus Andy Cruz rematch.
- 25:06Oh, yeah, of course.
- 25:07That's that's always been on the books as a possibility because it's three.
- 25:14How you beat him.
- 25:15What?
- 25:16Three times in the amateurs.
- 25:17So and Andy Cruz keeps calling him out like you.
- 25:22He wants to continue humiliating you.
- 25:24Are you going to stand for that?
- 25:26Because you've adapted to the pro game a lot better than he has so far.
- 25:31I think he could not go any cruise.
- 25:33I think he could beat Andy Cruz because he's if you're go if you're bloodlusted to use
- 25:39the discord term, then that's that's a different type of game right there.
- 25:44And pros is totally different from the amateurs.
- 25:48Exactly.
- 25:49Frank Martin is at number seven.
- 25:51OK, I think they'll probably be the most realistic fight next for Keisha Davis.
- 25:56Some like framework.
- 25:58Oh, but that's like across the street.
- 26:01And yeah, Topper doesn't do that.
- 26:03They well both try not to.
- 26:06Yeah.
- 26:08Try to keep things in house.
- 26:09Yeah.
- 26:10Raymore, I think is with Topper.
- 26:14Yeah, which I mean, if they want to put that fight on with with Keisha, they can.
- 26:19But I don't think they are.
- 26:20Yeah, they're just going to give Keisha.
- 26:23I think they're going to give Keisha the teal female route now.
- 26:25They're just going to let him fight some shitters for a while, maybe fight for another title.
- 26:30I don't know what that was up at Topper recently.
- 26:32They just like to have their fighters fight shitters.
- 26:35They just like to let them go.
- 26:37Yeah, like like Janabek.
- 26:39They do the same thing with Janabek.
- 26:41They do the same thing with Teal female.
- 26:44I mean, we'll see what happens with Loma if he ever comes back.
- 26:48But Topper doesn't, you know, they don't do the fighters like that.
- 26:52They don't give their fighters that much challenge until like Riyadh.
- 26:55So they have to they have to for the money.
- 26:59Like Jerry Anderson, I guess if you're looking back on it, he did not belong in Riyadh.
- 27:03Like something like that.
- 27:04You know what I mean?
- 27:05Yeah.
- 27:06So the top rank ESPN deal is about to run out.
- 27:12Yeah, that's that's going to be in a couple months.
- 27:16Yeah.
- 27:17So there it sounds like.
- 27:19Well, they're already aligned with Riyadh season.
- 27:23I wonder where where they're going to go.
- 27:27They're probably going to have to go to the daisien.
- 27:29They have to.
- 27:30Who else is going to take them?
- 27:32Nobody else wants them.
- 27:33Nobody else really.
- 27:34PPSPB already had a problem with that.
- 27:37Looking for someone.
- 27:38They got picked up by Prime.
- 27:39Yeah.
- 27:40And the only reason why I think Prime picked them up was because they have big name fighters,
- 27:45big pay per view fighters.
- 27:46Right.
- 27:47That's the only thing keeping PBC up right now is Tank and Canelo.
- 27:50And now David Benavides a little bit.
- 27:52Well, Canelo just left for Riyadh.
- 27:54Well, yeah, now he's gone for Riyadh.
- 27:56So where close do they have Tank and David?
- 27:59They can put on maybe not name brands events, but they have a good stable of fighters that
- 28:08can make, you know, two doubleheader, tripleheaders that are really worth paying for.
- 28:15Well, I would pay for David if he fought a good fighter.
- 28:19I wouldn't pay for some of Tank's fights.
- 28:21I wouldn't pay for some of David's fights.
- 28:23They would need to fight good fighters.
- 28:25Yeah.
- 28:26As well.
- 28:27Other than that, I really don't see anybody pay per view worthy on PBC side.
- 28:31You know what I mean?
- 28:33People need to readjust their price points.
- 28:37$80 is not realistic anymore.
- 28:40Nobody wants to pay, especially in this economy, nobody wants to pay $80 for a damn fight to
- 28:44see Tim Zue versus Keith Thurman.
- 28:47I don't want to pay.
- 28:48I'm not paying to see that.
- 28:49And I know it's free on Prime if you have a Prime membership.
- 28:53And you know what?
- 28:54I want to be honest.
- 28:56I pay for the $25 Riyadh events.
- 28:58I pay for those.
- 28:59I watch those.
- 29:00I have a Dazone subscription.
- 29:03Just more and more smaller time promotions that I really want to see.
- 29:08So you're for a prospect scouting.
- 29:11They're moving to Dazone.
- 29:13And there's another service I just came across.
- 29:17It's BXNGTV.com.
- 29:22They have a lot of local smokies.
- 29:24Like the one that I said, like they put their fights on on Saturdays.
- 29:28And like I'm not going to skip something else that's actually kind of important to the landscape
- 29:34to watch this.
- 29:36But I can go back and watch replays.
- 29:39And that's always been a fucking problem with these people.
- 29:41It's like, I don't know where to find your stuff.
- 29:43But now they're on one place, which I like.
- 29:46A lot of people don't like that's all in Dazium, but I do like that.
- 29:49I do, too.
- 29:51I do.
- 29:53I don't like something RJ from in Discord, he always points out that they broadcast their
- 29:59broadcasts are in 720p.
- 30:01Yeah, that's another thing today.
- 30:03Yeah, that's bullshit.
- 30:04Poor quality.
- 30:05We're primed.
- 30:06Really poor quality.
- 30:07It's 4K.
- 30:08If your device can support 4K.
- 30:10Which I mean, they need to upgrade their equipment.
- 30:12Yeah.
- 30:13Dazone.
- 30:14I don't know why they don't have 4K.
- 30:15Or at the very least 1080.
- 30:171080, yeah.
- 30:18It's like the base, that's the base of HD at this point.
- 30:23Yeah, 720 is like the old school.
- 30:26Right.
- 30:27You know, but we're going to get into that now.
- 30:30We're into the semantics, huh?
- 30:32Well, yeah, we'll see how much of that makes the makes the public release.
- 30:36Yeah.
- 30:37Anything more for Kishan and Berencic?
- 30:40I can't wait to see what happens with Kishan in the future.
- 30:42I am excited for him.
- 30:44Because I kind of was like reluctant at first.
- 30:49Is he that good?
- 30:50Because he didn't seem to be that good.
- 30:52And then the weed thing happened.
- 30:55It turns out.
- 30:56Yeah, he actually can be pretty explosive.
- 31:00So when he stopped, I think that's when everything became better is when he stopped, stopped
- 31:05with the marijuana smoking so much.
- 31:08Moving on to the 15th in Manchester again at the Co Live Coop Live.
- 31:16The fucking bunch of shit on here that I don't care about.
- 31:19Arnold Barbosa split decision over Jack Cattarall interim WBO 140 pound title.
- 31:26Did you think you'd get the decision out there?
- 31:28No, no, not at all.
- 31:31Not at all.
- 31:32I didn't either.
- 31:33I was surprised.
- 31:34I was expecting a Jack Cattarall unanimous decision.
- 31:38So was I.
- 31:39There he was in a in a foreign land with surrounded by people that were booing him.
- 31:45I mean, they cut it out, but they were booing the hell out of him.
- 31:48Everybody was against Arnold Barbosa.
- 31:50But somehow Golden Boy made the fucking gods help Arnold Barbosa get the decision this
- 31:57time around.
- 31:58I was surprised.
- 31:59Now, was it a good fight?
- 32:00It's all right.
- 32:01It was all right.
- 32:02Yeah, it was all right.
- 32:03Not bad.
- 32:04Like I actually expected it to be.
- 32:06But you know, it was not bad to watch.
- 32:08Am I going to follow Arnold Barbosa's career in the future?
- 32:13I will.
- 32:14I will.
- 32:15I will watch him on the undercards and I will sometimes talk about him.
- 32:19I'll think about him every now and then.
- 32:21But other than that, no, I'm not paying attention to him that much.
- 32:27It'll it'll come up on here anyway.
- 32:29Just.
- 32:30Yeah.
- 32:31The state that he's at now.
- 32:33And oh, what's what's what was your take about this fight right here, though?
- 32:45About I liked it.
- 32:46I'm I was happy with Barbosa's last performance against Ramirez at the Latino night in Riyadh.
- 32:54Dumbest shit ever.
- 32:55But nonetheless, I'm hopeful that he gets to fight for the actual title because it's
- 33:01either he's going to fight to a female who he was chasing when they were both at top
- 33:05rank and not going to be fighting anymore and ever again.
- 33:11It's probably not going to happen.
- 33:13But if he gets the full title, he joins a crop of solid, solid names.
- 33:18So I'm who are his contemporaries?
- 33:21Mother fucking Richardson Hitchens has the I.B.F.
- 33:28O'Fimo has a WBO, Devin Haney has WBC and.
- 33:35Ryo has WBA.
- 33:36Well, you have two Devin Haney's in there.
- 33:41One pretty good fighter.
- 33:42Was the name of Issa Pueblo.
- 33:46Well, yeah, he's he's OK.
- 33:49He's a bad.
- 33:51And Ryo.
- 33:52Good scalp.
- 33:53You have.
- 33:54Yeah, yes.
- 33:55You have two boxers.
- 33:56So a pretty aggressive guy and then kind of a mix between those two.
- 34:01And in Ryo, there's other options that are around to show Subaru Matias fighting soon.
- 34:07That's a good name.
- 34:08Fucking Andy Hiraoka.
- 34:10He's pretty.
- 34:12I would put him in the boxing theory.
- 34:16Boxing laundry.
- 34:17I'd have him at ironed.
- 34:19Yeah, I agree.
- 34:20He's good.
- 34:21He's he still shows.
- 34:23Maybe there's like a little bit of somebody that's elite in their prime and stuff can
- 34:28exploit it.
- 34:29But otherwise, like a lot of people are going to have trouble with this athleticism.
- 34:33Yeah, I agree.
- 34:36Adam Azim just beat fucking Lippen yet.
- 34:40I think Adam Azim.
- 34:42I think Azim might be on the hanger.
- 34:47Because Lippen yet wasn't ever really that good to begin with.
- 34:50So him being in the hamper, it's not not a not very good.
- 34:56Yeah.
- 34:57Oh, I don't know.
- 34:59We can.
- 35:01I'm excited to see Barbosa.
- 35:05So far, not too keen on him as a fighter, but I do enjoy his personality.
- 35:12I like him.
- 35:13I like the guy.
- 35:14Yeah, I can't hate the guy.
- 35:15He's a he's a really humble guy.
- 35:16He is.
- 35:17I love humble fighters.
- 35:18It's just I just do.
- 35:19I just can't watch.
- 35:20Yeah, it's not that aesthetically pleasing in the ring.
- 35:24Exactly.
- 35:25But still, another Chicano kid going up.
- 35:29Can't hate it.
- 35:31But anything more for the matchroom card?
- 35:34No.
- 35:35All right.
- 35:36One quick one in Mongolia.
- 35:40I have not been able to find any footage of this, but Sembatar Erdembat, he's been he's
- 35:48fought on pro box a handful of times and it's been pretty good.
- 35:53Pretty exciting.
- 35:54Mongolians always come to rumble.
- 35:56Always.
- 35:57They always come to fight.
- 35:58So in the rare times you see him fight, they always come to fight.
- 36:02Yeah.
- 36:03So I was hoping to get more info, but he gets the win stoppage in six of 10.
- 36:09So congrats to Erdembat.
- 36:12Wait, I think you're missing a card.
- 36:15Which golden boy?
- 36:16Oh, fuck.
- 36:18I keep forgetting about this one.
- 36:20I think you forgot the last time, too.
- 36:22I did.
- 36:23God damn it.
- 36:24What is wrong with me?
- 36:25At the same time, it's not really that important.
- 36:28We just, you know.
- 36:29Yeah, I'm pulling it up.
- 36:30This one was in Oxnard or Anaheim.
- 36:33Not Oxnard.
- 36:35There's not very many here that are all that important to me.
- 36:42Oscar Duarte headlining.
- 36:43Yeah.
- 36:44And he was awesome.
- 36:46Just some quick ones.
- 36:47Kenny Sims Jr. UD over Kendo Castaneda.
- 36:52There was somebody else in the stable.
- 36:56Alexis Rocha.
- 36:57They were talking about them fighting.
- 36:59I just am struggling to care about that.
- 37:01Yeah, I don't care for Alex Rocha or even Curiel.
- 37:06Darius Fuljum gets the win in four over Winfred Harris.
- 37:10Winfred very clearly did not want to be there.
- 37:13Hopefully he got paid at least.
- 37:15And main event Miguel Madueno comes to rumble, gets stopped in seven.
- 37:21Oscar Duarte gets the win.
- 37:24Very cool fight.
- 37:25I liked it.
- 37:26It was really fun.
- 37:27You love to see this guy.
- 37:29It's they're not the Mexican styles evolving a bit.
- 37:35They're starting to become more more technical prowess involved, like seeing the likes of
- 37:41Marquez Canelo.
- 37:45They're stepping away from the quote unquote flat foot brawler.
- 37:49Well, I don't know if Oscar really falls into the category of being technical.
- 37:58He has more technique to his brawl.
- 38:01He's not like people.
- 38:02I'll tell you that.
- 38:03He's definitely more technical than Pitbull.
- 38:05Pitbull is like modern.
- 38:07That's the classic.
- 38:08Yeah, he's modern class style.
- 38:09Yeah.
- 38:10But Duarte is a little bit more technical than that.
- 38:13Whereas like Canelo, like half his career was like Pitbull and half his career is kind
- 38:18of a little more refined, technically refined.
- 38:23He became the way my the delineage for me.
- 38:26What is the Canelo years and then the dinero years?
- 38:31Yeah, that's perfect.
- 38:33Actually.
- 38:34Yeah.
- 38:35Saul dinero.
- 38:36Miguel.
- 38:37No, Miguel Madueno.
- 38:39He has options because that outing was fantastic.
- 38:44He had just lost to Keyshawn.
- 38:49And I know they were making a big stink about that on the broadcast saying that Keyshawn
- 38:53couldn't stop them.
- 38:54But look who did.
- 38:55Yeah, but is that really fair?
- 38:58I don't.
- 38:59That's not fair at all.
- 39:00I don't think it's fair.
- 39:01Now is that two different weight classes?
- 39:03Yep.
- 39:04With two different style fighters.
- 39:07Very different.
- 39:08For Keyshawn to like box you box you up.
- 39:11Yeah, that's that's what he does.
- 39:14But what if he stays at 135?
- 39:19There are still options for him.
- 39:23He could go up to 140.
- 39:25He didn't look terrible.
- 39:26Honestly, I think if he wants to stay 135, Yoshino would be a good fight.
- 39:32Good one.
- 39:34Yeah.
- 39:36This is one of those ones where their stock went up.
- 39:39I was happy to see how well he did.
- 39:44But for Oscar, he's at 140.
- 39:48He lost to Ryan Garcia.
- 39:50Yeah.
- 39:51Keo.
- 39:52Another loss back in the day.
- 39:55And then Jojo, you want to get Jojo Diaz?
- 39:57That's Jojo Diaz though.
- 40:00Jojo Akhmedov.
- 40:01Have I seen you before?
- 40:03This was on the Latino Night.
- 40:07Yeah.
- 40:08It was OK.
- 40:09Doodoo Night.
- 40:10Eh.
- 40:11Man.
- 40:12I have to have to look into that a little bit more because throwing we were talking
- 40:19about with Arnold Barbosa and like all of the possibilities that exist at 140.
- 40:27I think just put Oscar into that same conversation.
- 40:29It's the same thing.
- 40:32Yeah.
- 40:33Same exact thing.
- 40:34Yeah.
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- 44:38Friday, February 28th, Yvonne Michel has a fucking dealio in Quebec.
- 44:46Eduardo Hernandez versus Rene Telles.
- 44:50That's the headline.
- 44:51That's the guy that Scofield fought.
- 44:54Oh, yeah.
- 44:56He is, isn't he?
- 44:57Yeah.
- 44:58That's the one that he went to rumble with.
- 45:03And came out the victor.
- 45:05Moving to March 1st, got a couple to throw out.
- 45:10No limit in Brisbane.
- 45:14Liam Wilson.
- 45:15We've got Oscar Valdez versus Yousef Dib.
- 45:18This is a rematch.
- 45:20So enjoy that.
- 45:21It's going to be at like fucking one in the morning, midnight on the West Coast, I think.
- 45:27Yeah.
- 45:28Matchroom in Northern Ireland, Lewis Crocker versus Patti Donovan as the headline.
- 45:33Craig Richards versus Patrick McCrory is your co-main.
- 45:37He's moving back down to super middle.
- 45:39Queensborough.
- 45:40Queensborough.
- 45:41In Burnham.
- 45:42I don't really know who any of these people are.
- 45:49Oh, Joe Joyce.
- 45:50Joe Joyce.
- 45:51Joe Joyce.
- 45:52That's right.
- 45:53Joe Joyce versus Patrick Cortes.
- 45:57This is the one.
- 45:58He has this fight and then he has Dillion White in a month.
- 46:02In a month.
- 46:03Yeah, that's wild.
- 46:04That's a really bad idea, dude.
- 46:06I just I've seen that go bad so many times.
- 46:08I don't even know exactly.
- 46:10That's going to give him bad luck.
- 46:12I hope so.
- 46:13I hope so.
- 46:14So badly.
- 46:15Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully.
- 46:16Hold on a second.
- 46:17Karol Itama.
- 46:18Karol Itama.
- 46:19He is indeed related to Moses.
- 46:24Yeah, he is fighting Michael Ludwigak.
- 46:31I think I got that one.
- 46:33But there you go.
- 46:34Those are pretty much the only two.
- 46:36This Itama is at light heavyweight.
- 46:39He's 12 and 1.
- 46:41Lost by KO in the fifth.
- 46:44His only loss.
- 46:45That was a while ago.
- 46:49Long long time ago.
- 46:50So that's it for the Queensburg card.
- 46:53Salida Promotions in Fajardo, Puerto Rico.
- 46:58Only one really worth pointing out.
- 46:59Subaru Almentias for Gabriel Valenzuela.
- 47:03So that's fun.
- 47:05It'll be on the zone.
- 47:06Why do I have that there?
- 47:08All right.
- 47:09Whatever.
- 47:10Subaru Almentias is going back in pretty quick turnaround.
- 47:15All right.
- 47:16Back up to the top.
- 47:22Pollo Versandro Martín, the BBC super lightweight.
- 47:27I don't know.
- 47:31I like Sandra Martín a lot.
- 47:33But I don't know.
- 47:35Sandra Martin.
- 47:36I think he could probably win the fight if he fought the right way.
- 47:43Yeah, that's if you don't come correct, then he'll kick you.
- 47:49He'll be in the bar.
- 47:51Yeah.
- 47:52So picking up Jose Valenzuela, Rio versus Gary Antoine Russell.
- 47:58Just call the Russell brothers by their middle names.
- 48:02Jose Valenzuela.
- 48:04I'm hopeful that Ryo wins.
- 48:06Pulls it out.
- 48:08I want Ryo to win too.
- 48:09I want him to keep that title.
- 48:11Yeah.
- 48:12Because GAR is.
- 48:13He's OK.
- 48:14He's OK if I had a watch.
- 48:17I like my man, Rio.
- 48:19Can't spell garbage without.
- 48:21GAR.
- 48:22There you go.
- 48:27Antoine's fine.
- 48:28I was there for the postal fight.
- 48:32They post.
- 48:34Yeah, they stopped him in the 10th round and postals just stood there like, what the fuck
- 48:40is going on?
- 48:41I like everything.
- 48:42I remember that.
- 48:43Yeah, they were trying to keep Antoine's 100 percent K.O. ratio.
- 48:49Yeah.
- 48:50That was kind of BS.
- 48:53Quite.
- 48:54And moving up, WBA lightweight title, Gervonta Davis versus Roach.
- 49:00We have to talk about it.
- 49:06What round?
- 49:07Six.
- 49:08I was going to six as well.
- 49:10Yeah, I'm thinking six.
- 49:12And if it's not the six, then it's got to be a late stoppage.
- 49:16You think you think it'll go later?
- 49:18No.
- 49:19I honestly I think it's going to go six rounds tops.
- 49:23And the thing is that if by chance, if Lamont Roach makes to the end, Gervonta Davis still
- 49:32winning no matter what.
- 49:33It's a kangaroo court type of fight.
- 49:35They're not going to let Davis lose the fight no matter what.
- 49:39Even if Lamont Roach fights like hell, like if he fights like we've all that fight and
- 49:44he for some reason, he lasts against Gervonta Davis.
- 49:48He still doesn't get it.
- 49:49He still doesn't get the damn win because you know how politics work in boxing, man.
- 49:54Of course, they're going to keep it in house.
- 49:57Only reason why they took away Canelo's always because I mean, it's Canelo.
- 50:00He always hops around.
- 50:02You know, I think that was the end of that was the end of his as his time with the Asian,
- 50:08right?
- 50:09It was his last fight with matchroom.
- 50:11Actually, I think I think that was the second to last fight with with matchroom.
- 50:15Yeah, it was triple G.
- 50:16Yeah, I was at the last one.
- 50:21Yeah, but but either way, they're they're not going to take away Gervonta Davis's own
- 50:28no matter what.
- 50:30I don't care what anybody says, not even a fucking draw.
- 50:34I mean, I don't want to get into it, dude.
- 50:36I really do want one again to Gervonta Davis here right now on the call.
- 50:41We don't have to get into him.
- 50:44So yeah, what I liked is that I just said what round and you already knew exactly what
- 50:48I was talking about.
- 50:50That's crazy.
- 50:51We both knew the same exact round.
- 50:52You're right.
- 50:53I'm thinking just for the sake of variety, I'm going to go third quarter seven, eight
- 50:58or six, seven, eight or nine.
- 51:01That's valid.
- 51:02That's valid.
- 51:03I like that.
- 51:04Wait, I kind of do want to see my opinion about think.
- 51:08Go for it.
- 51:09I know, but I feel like this is going to be like a little too controversial.
- 51:13Well, the unedited versions only go behind a paywall.
- 51:17OK, that's the only place you could get them.
- 51:19So if you want, I can cut it out.
- 51:21What's that bad?
- 51:22It's not controversial, like crazy bad.
- 51:23It's like it's like it's like the Floyd Schofield.
- 51:26Oh, that's not bad.
- 51:27That's actually not as bad as Floyd Schofield.
- 51:30But I honestly think Gervonta Davis, from what I'm hearing, if you were to retire after
- 51:34this fight, he's not going to remember that well.
- 51:36He's going to remember it as much as Julian the Hot Jackson, if not even less.
- 51:42If he were to leave now.
- 51:44Yeah, Gervonta Davis to me has not done anything to support no worthy besides fighting Ryan
- 51:49Garcia.
- 51:51He was gifted a title at 135.
- 51:53And don't get me wrong, he's a great fighter.
- 51:58He's a great he's amazing fighter, but he didn't earn that title at 135.
- 52:03He's done some work at, you know, the weight classes below.
- 52:07But I mean, does anybody remember his 130 run?
- 52:10How much does anybody remember his 120?
- 52:13You remember much sickos do I do?
- 52:16I'm saying like the general like like public, you know, I mean, oh, absolutely not.
- 52:20Exactly.
- 52:21Maybe they remember Pedraza and that's it.
- 52:24But they remember him now and think of him as that he was the same way back then.
- 52:30Exactly.
- 52:31Which he wasn't at all.
- 52:32But doesn't matter.
- 52:34Another one.
- 52:35Gamboa maybe.
- 52:36But he didn't fight anybody else of the four princes.
- 52:39He had not fight Devin Haney or Teofimo, who he should have fought.
- 52:45He should have gone up in weight, but he didn't.
- 52:48And if this is really Les last fight, so be it.
- 52:52Rest in peace, Tank Davis.
- 52:53But I don't know, man.
- 52:56Retire with you.
- 52:57Oh, but that doesn't mean shit to me.
- 52:58He's fighting minority in the conversation of Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, never
- 53:05Ray Leonard.
- 53:06If anything, you want to be even more controversial?
- 53:10Sure.
- 53:11I think Devin Haney is going to be remembered more than Jervonta Davis, maybe not remembered
- 53:15like, OK, yeah, he was a better fighter, but he'll be remembered more.
- 53:20You know, I mean, yeah, you'd be more fondly remembered than Jervonta.
- 53:24Name recognition.
- 53:25Yeah.
- 53:26Because he's still going to be fighting and what he fought Ryan, he fought Ryan at 20
- 53:33was 26.
- 53:34Right.
- 53:35Yeah.
- 53:36Twenty six, 25 tanks, 30 years old.
- 53:41And he hasn't fought anybody.
- 53:44No worthy.
- 53:45Actually, I said this in the chat the other day.
- 53:47He's the only fighter at 135 right now that actually fought for a title.
- 53:52Shakur and Edward Santos fought for a vacated title.
- 53:57Davis was given was an email champ.
- 54:01And then Lomachenko was also for a vacated title with Lomachenko.
- 54:04Or not Lomachenko.
- 54:05Loma was vacated, vacated, fighting for the vacated title with Ken Boses.
- 54:10That's it.
- 54:11I don't know.
- 54:12You could hate me for my Jervonta Davis.
- 54:13I don't get me wrong.
- 54:15The reason why I'm so hard on him is because he is such a great fighter.
- 54:19I think Jervonta Davis potentially could have became undisputed when if he followed
- 54:24him earlier.
- 54:25But I mean, that's neither here nor there.
- 54:28How do you feel about my opinion?
- 54:30No, Devin Haney is 26.
- 54:34Yeah, he fought Brian Garcia, 26, 26.
- 54:39He's still got time to to build up more.
- 54:42Exactly.
- 54:43And the tank, I mean, who else has he fought besides Ryan?
- 54:49You know, we know we fought.
- 54:50We obviously know we fought.
- 54:52But who like who was of note that he fought?
- 54:55Who was noteworthy, noteworthy name that he really fought in that resume as aged well?
- 55:02Besides Ryan, I was going to say Leo Santa Cruz, but I don't know how well that's aged.
- 55:09He brought him up.
- 55:10He brought him up and wait.
- 55:11Yes, he did.
- 55:12And he's basically out of the sport now.
- 55:14He is out of the sport now.
- 55:16OK.
- 55:17Only one I could think of is Mario Barrios is the only other.
- 55:22That's that's actually a really notable win in my opinion.
- 55:25Was it aged well, though?
- 55:26Because yeah, he has a title, but he looked like shit against Abel Ramos.
- 55:31Yeah, I agree with you.
- 55:34But the only thing is that in my opinion, the reason why it's so noteworthy is because
- 55:37he's now a welterweight.
- 55:39I see what you mean.
- 55:41And you want to see how how crazy.
- 55:44Not crazy, what's the word?
- 55:45That kind of shows you the greatest tank.
- 55:48What the greatest tank like the difference in levels in the game, I guess, in terms of
- 55:54greatness.
- 55:55People wanted Terrence Crawford to fight Canelo, right?
- 55:58Yeah.
- 55:59But who was really calling for Tank to fight Terrence Crawford or Boots?
- 56:05People want anyway to go up and fight Tank.
- 56:08But who is asking for Tank to move up?
- 56:11You know what I mean?
- 56:12Yeah, I see.
- 56:13Nobody wants Tank to move up.
- 56:14No, I have not heard one opinion about Tank moving up and fighting Moots.
- 56:18And again, that's a silly opinion.
- 56:20It's a really silly thing to do, kind of.
- 56:23But it's just the matter that you're in that kind of conversation.
- 56:27Exactly.
- 56:28Like you hear you.
- 56:29I mean, you hear all the time about Boots and Canelo, not Boots, Canelo and Crawford.
- 56:33And Crawford was a welterweight.
- 56:34He started at 135.
- 56:36Yeah.
- 56:37And moving up to 168.
- 56:38OK.
- 56:40But you don't hear anybody talking about Tank moving up a couple weight classes.
- 56:44Why?
- 56:45Why is that?
- 56:46We just want him to fight at all.
- 56:49Just period.
- 56:50Exactly.
- 56:51Just somebody.
- 56:52Of note.
- 56:53Yeah.
- 56:54Find somebody who fucking matters that's in your weight class.
- 56:57Like you're pulling up Lamont Roach just as well.
- 57:01Frank Martin, you sniped him early.
- 57:05And Hector Garcia, you pulled him up.
- 57:08The only thing is that what I wish Tank could have done was go up to 140 with everybody
- 57:14else.
- 57:15That would have been legendary and fought everybody.
- 57:18Like when Teofimo and Devin Haney and them.
- 57:22Everybody moved up.
- 57:23The thing with that is that Tank really could have fought them all at 140 and became undisputed.
- 57:29I know becoming undisputed obviously is not the be all end all for boxing.
- 57:38But at the same time it's like well at one point Devin Haney and Matias and Pitbull were
- 57:46all title holders right?
- 57:50He could have gone up and shaken the division up and became undisputed when all those guys
- 57:53were up there.
- 57:54And I think that if he had an undisputed run at that weight class like that with all those
- 57:59guys no doubt about it he would be remembered just for that.
- 58:04But he's done nothing like of note.
- 58:08Something like you know what I mean?
- 58:10He hasn't done anything like that.
- 58:12He hasn't reached out for greatness.
- 58:15He stayed comfortable.
- 58:16833 Lux Pods.
- 58:17Oh.
- 58:18Tell me why you disagree.
- 58:21Oh because that it's a spicy take yes and it's one that I'm sure that there's a certain
- 58:30subset of fans that don't want to hear it.
- 58:33Specifically like Tank stands.
- 58:35But yeah looking at his resume it's not looking great.
- 58:42He's not going to be remembered fondly as you put it.
- 58:47No.
- 58:48No.
- 58:49And honestly like I think like so many other guys that if Tank fought him he would have
- 58:55been remembered more.
- 58:57But now these other guys are going to be remembered way more than him.
- 58:59And the argument that I've always seen with Tank fans is that he makes more money.
- 59:03So what?
- 59:04Yeah.
- 59:05So what?
- 59:06That's not just because you make more money doesn't mean you're greater.
- 59:08Right.
- 59:09You know what I mean?
- 59:10Yeah your pay per view splits nobody fucking cares.
- 59:13Only you care of course because that's your wallet.
- 59:16But the rest of us like I don't give a shit.
- 59:20Okay.
- 59:21About how much your pay per view buys.
- 59:22I don't get paid for that.
- 59:23I exactly paying for it.
- 59:25So I want to see maybe one of yeah maybe one to pay for your damn pay per view buys.
- 59:29Right.
- 59:30Right.
- 59:31Yeah we were saying that about PBC.
- 59:36Yeah.
- 59:37And their new deal with whoever.
- 59:40Well Tank Davis just do better.
- 59:43Hopefully you don't retire after this fight.
- 59:44If you do then you're going to fade into obscurity.
- 59:47I think that he'll be remembered in the same like through the same lens as Julian Jackson
- 59:54like because of that stupid power.
- 59:58But not remotely remembered fondly.
- 1:00:00Right for winning taking the hard fights.
- 1:00:04Win or lose.
- 1:00:05Yeah.
- 1:00:06Yeah.
- 1:00:07Great.
- 1:00:08Wow.
- 1:00:09Bold takes over here man.
- 1:00:10I tell you.
- 1:00:11That's what the B and B side stands for is bold.
- 1:00:14Bold.
- 1:00:15Old slides.
- 1:00:16That's all we got though.
- 1:00:19That's it for the March 1st.
- 1:00:21It's a busy day.
- 1:00:23Not a whole lot of it is actually very good.
- 1:00:26If you want to be just completely disgusting you can watch No Limit.
- 1:00:31That'll take you.
- 1:00:32Then you can have a power nap that'll take you into the matchroom and or Queensbury.
- 1:00:38Then you can double screen Salida and PBC.
- 1:00:42Yeah.
- 1:00:44Oh man.
- 1:00:46That's I'm probably going to end up doing that.
- 1:00:51All right.
- 1:00:54One more.
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- 1:02:17Heading into Tank Weekend.
- 1:02:21CARTING WORDS.
- 1:02:24CARTING WORDS.
- 1:02:27You go first man.
- 1:02:29Oh shit.
- 1:02:32One that I've been trying to do, trying to give something positive to think about.
- 1:02:41Positive New Year's resolutions for example.
- 1:02:43Instead of like eating better, exercising more, like no shit.
- 1:02:48Drinking less alcohol of course.
- 1:02:51They're not quite as fun.
- 1:02:53So those are the ones people usually give up on.
- 1:02:56So try to do a positive.
- 1:02:58Trying to do a positive one.
- 1:03:01I'm still on it.
- 1:03:02I'm like, how far are we?
- 1:03:04We're like six weeks into the year and I'm like on week five of uh, I've been doing vocal
- 1:03:12coaching and fucking exercises to get better, taking my singing more seriously.
- 1:03:20So that's fun.
- 1:03:21I've been doing that.
- 1:03:23And some positive parting words.
- 1:03:27This is from Walt Whitman.
- 1:03:29Keep your face always toward the sunshine and shadows will fall behind you.
- 1:03:33That's beautiful.
- 1:03:34Yeah.
- 1:03:35I like that.
- 1:03:36Oh shit.
- 1:03:37I just came across another one.
- 1:03:38This one's from JFK and it just really, I think it underlines everything I was saying
- 1:03:48about the positive or the fun resolutions.
- 1:03:53So JFK.
- 1:03:55As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not
- 1:03:59to utter words, but to live by them.
- 1:04:02That's even better actually.
- 1:04:04Why are you doing me like this?
- 1:04:07That's fucking crazy, man.
- 1:04:10Yeah.
- 1:04:11Crazy.
- 1:04:12You want to see my last words?
- 1:04:16Yeah.
- 1:04:17Parting words.
- 1:04:18What do you got?
- 1:04:19Parting words.
- 1:04:20I am a casual.
- 1:04:22I love boxing.
- 1:04:24But make me pay for this shit.
- 1:04:27Give me a reason.
- 1:04:28Reason for what?
- 1:04:29To pay.
- 1:04:30To pay?
- 1:04:31Yeah.
- 1:04:32Oh yeah.
- 1:04:33Give me a reason to pay.
- 1:04:34Give me a reason.
- 1:04:35You know, seeing Lamont, Roach and Javon to tank Davis, it's a waste of money.
- 1:04:40It's a waste of money.
- 1:04:41And I hate saying that.
- 1:04:43Honestly, I think Ryo versus JR is going to be better.
- 1:04:47So in the future, I hope there's better fights.
- 1:04:50I love boxing.
- 1:04:51But man, I hate when promotional companies do this shit with the fighters.
- 1:04:55I hate when fighters do this.
- 1:04:56You know?
- 1:04:57Yeah.
- 1:04:58So we'll see what happens with Tank in the future.
- 1:05:00And I hope, I wish him the best.
- 1:05:02I wish all the fighters the best.
- 1:05:03I say it all the time.
- 1:05:06I just hope everyone's having fun.
- 1:05:08Yes, I agree.
- 1:05:10All right.
- 1:05:11That's it.
- 1:05:12We'll see you on the other side of Tank.
- 1:05:13And we'll be talking about the Riyadh card next time.
- 1:05:17We'll see you next week.