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Dr. Vernard Hodges & Dr. Terrence Ferguson Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: all the way up from Soft Georgia or starting in
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  Speaker 1: Country Veterinarians, the show follows the lifelong friends, their lifelong
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  Speaker 1: friends who happened to be veterinarians and who happened to
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  Speaker 1: be African American veterinarians who operate Creative Fixer Veterinarian Hospital,
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making Conversations, my friends. I'm calling
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  Speaker 1: my friends doctors Hodges and Dr Ferguson. Hey have to
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  Speaker 1: be here. Well, okay, now you know we all know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's the first of all to my understand is you
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  Speaker 1: have to go to medical school to be a vet.
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  Speaker 1: Is that correct? So so it's really harder to be
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  Speaker 1: a veterinarian than just to be a general doctor. Huh.
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  Speaker 1: There the only third ones in their schools in the
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  Speaker 1: United States, So you know here in the state of Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: there's only one and they're about a hundred slots. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you think about it if in
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  Speaker 1: the whole state of Georgia, Um, you you you you're
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  Speaker 1: competing with with the whole state just to get those
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  Speaker 1: hundred Scotts. But but Dr person and of attended the
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  Speaker 1: only HBCU in school with the Tuskeg University. Now here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing about it. H TuS Key University is in Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: It's a HBCU school Historical Black College and University. That's
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  Speaker 1: what HBCU stands for UM and I am on a
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  Speaker 1: mission a part of this just campaign just to bring
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  Speaker 1: more attention to hbc used to let people understand that
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  Speaker 1: the value of of quality education to being provided by HBCUs.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us your take on your HBCU experience started with
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  Speaker 1: you first Dr Ferguson and then Dr Hodges. Yes, we
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  Speaker 1: were definitely value HBCU because we went to two HBCUs.
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  Speaker 1: We attended Fort Valley State University undergrad and we're tended
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  Speaker 1: uh Tuskee Universe School of in their medicine for our
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  Speaker 1: d d M. Sometimes you need that that HBCU. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you need that little extra nurturing and you know support
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  Speaker 1: in order for you to reach your dreams. You know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody has not cut out or everybody may not want
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  Speaker 1: to go to the larger universities. You may not get
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  Speaker 1: the the love and the hug and the extra support
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  Speaker 1: that you need. Myself, I have a family that has
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  Speaker 1: a history of hbcuth or So for me, it was
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  Speaker 1: a no brainer because I could see the things that
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  Speaker 1: they had to cheeth and and where they got their start,
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  Speaker 1: and I knew definitely was something that I needed and
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  Speaker 1: wanted as well. Okay, now, Dr Ferguson, Now I can
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  Speaker 1: I can hear the southern drawl in your voice, because
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  Speaker 1: you're a Southern boy, you know, straight out of George.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Now your side kick, that doctor Hodges, he's
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  Speaker 1: out of Connecticut. Let let's let's let's he have talked
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and see if he's picked up that
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  Speaker 1: southern drawl to it. I even done your research. I
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  Speaker 1: got to hold of you're right there right there, that
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  Speaker 1: voice difference, voice high, words are lot clearer. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: Connecticut right there, Connecticut right. I did it all of
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  Speaker 1: about a month in Connecticut. A card and my mom.
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  Speaker 1: So I love it. I love it. I love it
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  Speaker 1: so so you made your way down to the South
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  Speaker 1: and and and I've been a country boy ever since,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and uh speaking about HBCUs, Fort Valley and Tuskey,
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  Speaker 1: they prepared us for the world. I mean, and that's
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  Speaker 1: the beauty of it because you know, as a student,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't quite ready to uh to kind of even
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  Speaker 1: maybe even be a college student at the time. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, they have they have people who will reach
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  Speaker 1: out at Fort Valley and kind of give you the
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  Speaker 1: the learning and give you the tools so that you
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  Speaker 1: can realize what it takes to become a college student
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  Speaker 1: and and go ahead and um and be a success story.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I can't say enough about skeege and
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  Speaker 1: four element now now, now, Dr ferguson the name of
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  Speaker 1: take care of people, and we're gonna take care of animals.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why he and ore are in the profession
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  Speaker 1: Like I said that, that's why I'm willing, willing to
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  Speaker 1: share my my journey that you know, my attachment to
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  Speaker 1: my dog, you know, when he died, it just it
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  Speaker 1: it shadowed her when he when he died from cancer.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the dog died from cancer. So, but that's
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  Speaker 1: a journey of that attachment. So it was when I
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  Speaker 1: was going through your bio, it was an interesting story.
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  Speaker 1: dr Hodges, he wanted to be jack Cousto. Now let
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  Speaker 1: Jackson jackus So was a man. He he dove in
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  Speaker 1: the water so much his skin got wrinkly. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: recognize him the more he would. He was an underwater guy.
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  Speaker 1: He would go out there and see the whales, the sharks,
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  Speaker 1: the little fishes and everything. Jacko Sto was my man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie to you, Jacko Sto, and I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: in high school I wanted to work all shore because
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  Speaker 1: Stole in your in your bio, dr Hodges, I fell
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  Speaker 1: in love with you, I said, he I'm playing after
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  Speaker 1: my heart jack I'm something. I'm just because people don't
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  Speaker 1: I have, I have done those things. I have my
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  Speaker 1: Scooper license. I went in and swam with fish and
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  Speaker 1: the whole fish project for a whole sitting a city
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  Speaker 1: called Poker and Nepal when I was nineteen. So now
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  Speaker 1: I've had a fish farm, I've done all stuff with fish.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't a fish guy. Uh you know, I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was Donna met me, But you know, I end
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  Speaker 1: up being a criticis so at work that's just as good.
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  Speaker 1: But who knows? I might bull dold scoop again. What
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  Speaker 1: are you gonna pull the scoopy again? I just saw
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  Speaker 1: Alabama by Columbus the river. Let me tell y'all, Cathos,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to my my my my doctor was
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  Speaker 1: I'm doctor, and you followed me to these mud puddles
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  Speaker 1: of central Georgia and we're gonna kiss some Cathish. Dr Ferguson.
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  Speaker 1: Please please stop letting your doctor be stupid on my show. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you out there. He had the schooler diving and two
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  Speaker 1: ft of water, sliding on the mud, grabbing catfish with
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  Speaker 1: Now let me go with you, Dr fergus because I
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  Speaker 1: He's a personality, he got all the good stories. He's
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about it that, Dr Ferguson. Let me let
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  Speaker 1: um draw them back to that certain area. It's a
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  Speaker 1: your little car fish, little car fish over there, they
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  Speaker 1: A little fat fish. I love y'all both. Well, let's
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the big thing we already in
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  Speaker 1: What did you use? That? Said the word camel? Camel? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: While people would be able to see a camel. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: This camel was used if used in um nativity scenes
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  Speaker 1: So we had removed him home. Now y'all take away
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  Speaker 1: biggest animal. So what is the smallest animal you guys
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  Speaker 1: Did you hear you heard that right? A spider? A spider? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So because I am gonna cut your ball. I'm from Houston,
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• 29:35
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• 29:41
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• 29:44
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• 29:47
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• 29:50
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