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Uplift: He highlights the importance of mental health and wellness, in elite sports, and entrepreneurial spaces. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: now let's get started. My guest is a sports psychologist.
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  Speaker 2: He's a specialist, former professional basketball player, and co founder
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  Speaker 2: of Play twenty one Wellness Academy in Dlut, Georgia, that's
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  Speaker 2: right outside of Atlanta. He is wildly recognized for his
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  Speaker 2: work with elite and professional athletes, including the world champions,
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  Speaker 2: NFL standouts, and top collegiate performers, helping them improve through
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  Speaker 2: mental clarity, emotional control, and peak performers under pressure. Please
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  Speaker 2: welcome to Money Making Conversation Master Class, Doctor Kurk Jones.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot, Doctor Kurk and the era we live today.
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  Speaker 2: You're a black person, let's start here in the black
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  Speaker 2: community mental health. You in mental health before it became
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  Speaker 2: a conversational piece, talk about why mental health has always
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  Speaker 2: been a bad words are bad words in the black community.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for that question. And it has always
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  Speaker 3: had a bad reputation when people you know refer to
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  Speaker 3: you know, your mental health, because they always looked at
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  Speaker 3: us a bad thing. They always said, you know, if
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  Speaker 3: a person talked about they wasn't well, the first thing
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  Speaker 3: was a negative through negative connotation and they put it
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  Speaker 3: in a negative category. So today it's used a lot.
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  Speaker 3: It's used a lot, and the good thing that they
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  Speaker 3: put the spotlight on it is it brings attention to
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  Speaker 3: you know, wellness and mental health and things of sort.
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  Speaker 3: Before our community. Uh, there's a lot of work that
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  Speaker 3: needs to be done, and I'm proud to say that
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  Speaker 3: I'm working in our community to try and bring a
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  Speaker 3: lot of those things to the spotlight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, being a black person and a person who's
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  Speaker 2: been very competitive, my daughter was a high end athlete,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and had to deal with the stress from
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  Speaker 2: the parents performance level she was in tennis, so it
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  Speaker 2: was a very when the team work. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: teamwork when you're playing tennis, you know, football, you have teamwork.
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  Speaker 2: Soccer you have teamwork. You know baseball team work. We're
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  Speaker 2: out there with a solo sport. What do you specialize
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to the mindset of a professional or.
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  Speaker 1: Collegiate or high school athlete. So that's a great question.
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  Speaker 3: How do I differentiate those aspects of an athlete? So
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  Speaker 3: I do an analysis on most of my athletes, whether
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  Speaker 3: or not there or college, uh, you know, to become
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  Speaker 3: a potential or you know they're about to be chosen
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  Speaker 3: for draft as opposed to my pros. So what I
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  Speaker 3: would do is I would sit down and I would
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  Speaker 3: do a full phase, a full flask analysis on the athlete.
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  Speaker 3: And then what I would do I would come up
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  Speaker 3: with an individual plan treatment plan for those individuals to
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  Speaker 3: engage in, and I would talk about some of the
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  Speaker 3: things that I think we need to pinpoint as I
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  Speaker 3: try to help my athletes. Like if most college athletes
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  Speaker 3: deal with processing, right, Like, take a football player, you know,
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  Speaker 3: his time to process to play from.
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  Speaker 1: The hip, you know, to being sacked.
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  Speaker 3: He has to process to feel and so his focus
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  Speaker 3: generally is on the last play that didn't go according
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  Speaker 3: to how he wanted it to go. So what I
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  Speaker 3: try to do, try to get them to focus on
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  Speaker 3: is what's happening on the next play, what's happening now?
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  Speaker 3: And I have an it's something that I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: mention to you. I have a methodology that I have
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  Speaker 3: all my athletes using this called the Shelvy method right. Well,
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  Speaker 3: helped athletes focus on what's more important for them now
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  Speaker 3: you know how to get rid of thoughts. And it's
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  Speaker 3: working for all of my athletes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we I met you at the event John
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  Speaker 2: O'Brien event, steven A. Smith and I was at this
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  Speaker 2: event and we started talking and my whole format is entrepreneurship,
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  Speaker 2: small business. But I felt that what you talk about
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  Speaker 2: we deal with on a regular basis because it's a
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  Speaker 2: competitive business. You know, we're always on the stress because
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  Speaker 2: we are not employed by anybody. So how does that
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  Speaker 2: relate or do you have clients in this small or
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  Speaker 2: entrepreneur or the corporate space that are non athletes or
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  Speaker 2: you're one athlete only.
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  Speaker 3: No. I deal with businesses. Some of my top clients
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  Speaker 3: are some of their multimillion dollar businesses in regards to
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  Speaker 3: helping them deal with their focus and how to get
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  Speaker 3: their you know, mental thinking up the part. I always
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  Speaker 3: say the mental thinking is a huge part of successes, right,
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  Speaker 3: and so I deal with everything from and I'll just
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  Speaker 3: tell you even Tony Roberts and I sat down and
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  Speaker 3: we had a conversation and he said to me, he said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, doctor Jones, I don't have you know, the
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  Speaker 3: accolades that you've had, but I have a huge platform,
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  Speaker 3: and I would love for us to you know, do
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  Speaker 3: some work together. So you know, he and I, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we've been speaking on you know, how we can you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of talk about diversity, diversifying his business and and
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  Speaker 3: focus on you know, how he can get the mental
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  Speaker 3: wellness to a point where he sees it helping being
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  Speaker 3: more beneficial for the.
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  Speaker 1: Things that he do.
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  Speaker 3: So to answer your question, I help various businesses, small businesses,
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  Speaker 3: large businesses. I have a situation now that I am
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  Speaker 3: helping out an individual or if you've heard of what
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  Speaker 3: occurred in the news with the pipe bomb, so you
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  Speaker 3: know that situation. The father is a friend of mine,
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  Speaker 3: and so I'm trying to you know, help him, of
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  Speaker 3: course decipher through some of those problems that occurred with
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  Speaker 3: that because of course, the.
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  Speaker 1: Studia that's coming to him through his son's actions.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's one of the things that I wanted
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  Speaker 3: us to talk about it a little bit because the
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  Speaker 3: way that the media generally highlight situations like that, they
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  Speaker 3: put a whole negative spin on it, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: you know as a father that you can do all
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  Speaker 3: you can positively, you know, grow a business and put
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  Speaker 3: your kids in business, and put even you know, employees
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  Speaker 3: in businesses, and it doesn't turn out for them the
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  Speaker 3: way that you expected it to become. And sometimes it
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  Speaker 3: can affect you because right because you know, when they're
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  Speaker 3: trying to spend a story, they're not just trying to
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  Speaker 3: highlight the kid, but where the person came from, right.
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  Speaker 2: Or they like that they are danger to society, or
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  Speaker 2: they are good neighbors.
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  Speaker 1: I trust them.
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  Speaker 2: The coworkers where they running the business, everything that their
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  Speaker 2: church members, everything becomes.
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  Speaker 1: On the high level scrutiny. And we're talking about the young.
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  Speaker 2: Man who had the bombs that he set aside where
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  Speaker 2: he thought the at least I read, thought the twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty election was a hoax, it was a fraud, and
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  Speaker 2: he was trying to do somebody, and then he dropped
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  Speaker 2: off a couple of bombs in twenty twenty one, they
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  Speaker 2: tracked him down just having to be an African American
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  Speaker 2: and so is, which is again a lot of stereotypes
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  Speaker 2: lead you to say that's not normal in the African
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  Speaker 2: American community, But we don't know what is normal nowadays.
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  Speaker 2: But doctor Kirtchalls, something you said early on was that
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  Speaker 2: that I really appreciate is that you don't cookie cut
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  Speaker 2: your relationships with your clients.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for noticing it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you treat them in it and that's important because
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  Speaker 2: lots of people try to feel put everybody in a box. Females, age,
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  Speaker 2: you know, race, this is how they are, this is
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  Speaker 2: how they grow up. Why did you and why are
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  Speaker 2: you doing such detailed work like that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think it was my calling.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the things that I often tell people
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  Speaker 3: is that when it comes to dealing with these sports
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  Speaker 3: and athletes, I deal with elite athletes, and the elite
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  Speaker 3: athletes are those who sometimes they don't feel like they
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  Speaker 3: need you until there's a problem in their lives. So
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  Speaker 3: imagine being an elite athlete and the and the thoughts
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  Speaker 3: of which you think about every day. I'm the best,
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  Speaker 3: right and you have to think that way in order
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  Speaker 3: to be the best. I'm the best, and then all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden you're you're struggling with some things in
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  Speaker 3: your life. Right, So it takes a prideful person to
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  Speaker 3: be able to come to someone like me and say, Doc,
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  Speaker 3: I need your help. And so I'm not gonna I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna sit here and I'm not going to sugarcoat
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  Speaker 3: what we need to do for you, because you know,
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  Speaker 3: some of the issues that they bring to the table
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  Speaker 3: are some of the issues that I think that they
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  Speaker 3: need to be told. This is what you have to
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  Speaker 3: do to get rid of at it, and sometimes there's
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  Speaker 3: some tough decisions, but it's something that I have to do.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm talking to doctor Kirk Jones. You co
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  Speaker 2: found a Play twenty one Wellness Academy. Now that's based
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  Speaker 2: down in the Atlanta area and Dilute, Georgia. So what
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  Speaker 2: exactly is Play twenty one Wellness Academy.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great question.
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  Speaker 3: So the way that Play twenty one was organized came
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  Speaker 3: from my background. Okay, I'm a kid of Chicago and
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  Speaker 3: at an early age I lost my best friend who
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  Speaker 3: was the number one basketball player in America, Ben Wilson.
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  Speaker 3: It's you know, a highly recognized individual. And from that
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  Speaker 3: time when he lost his life, I really was struggling
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  Speaker 3: at the time, at the early age, and we always
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  Speaker 3: played when he was alive, we always played the basketball
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  Speaker 3: game of twenty one. Okay, So with that, when he
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  Speaker 3: actually got shot and he died and it was such
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  Speaker 3: a huge story, I really didn't have anyone who put
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  Speaker 3: their arms around me. I found myself death right well,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't a game related death. It was a it
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  Speaker 3: was a death of wrong place at the wrong time.
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  Speaker 3: I would say. He he was with his girlfriend at
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  Speaker 3: the time, and he was in the story. And there
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  Speaker 3: was a couple of stories out there, and I have
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  Speaker 3: to I have to go with the one that I
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  Speaker 3: was told because Jatan was his girlfriend at the time,
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  Speaker 3: and Jatan and my girlfriend they were best friends, and
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  Speaker 3: he and I were best friends, and what she told me,
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  Speaker 3: I have to go with. And that's a totally different
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  Speaker 3: story that was documented in our twenty fourteen a documentary
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  Speaker 3: which I'm in. But since his death, I was wrapping
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  Speaker 3: my arms around a lot of people because a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people struggled with his death, and I was finding
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  Speaker 3: strength within helping people. So as I matriculated through life.
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  Speaker 3: I found that helping individuals would be a way that
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  Speaker 3: I can kind of relieve my grief from his death.
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  Speaker 3: And so our form Play twenty one, and the whole
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  Speaker 3: infrastructure behind Play twenty one is that we wanted to
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  Speaker 3: go out and help youth athletes. There's a story that's
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  Speaker 3: being told right now in regards to parent abuse and
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  Speaker 3: teacher abuse, which we're trying to put.
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  Speaker 1: A spotlight on.
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  Speaker 3: And if you look at a lot of the social media,
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  Speaker 3: you'll notice that there's a lot of students that's putting
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  Speaker 3: their hands on teachers, a lot of children that's putting
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  Speaker 3: their hands on their parents. So Play twenty one was
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  Speaker 3: designed to not only bring these issues to a spotlight,
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  Speaker 3: but to give them a segue so that they can
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  Speaker 3: get relief and some help through support groups and things
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  Speaker 3: of sort. That's what Play twenty one it's all about.
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  Speaker 3: We have a profit in it as well as a
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  Speaker 3: non problem.
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  Speaker 1: It's really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I know, when I was in elementary, I lost a
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  Speaker 2: friend of mine, uh uh, suffocated on a balloon, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and and I always remembered, even to this day, I
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  Speaker 2: remember that death, you know, death is really can have
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  Speaker 2: an impact of it, especially young people.
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  Speaker 1: Because we have no outlets.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have we can't go to work, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have any you know, we just could be
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  Speaker 2: bottled up to that, to that one moment, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and the fact that that still stays in your life.
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  Speaker 2: And so we talk about high level athletes. Confidence can
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  Speaker 2: be shattered. Like they always say you if you watch sports,
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  Speaker 2: they tell you forget to forget the touchdown, your thrown
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  Speaker 2: and forget the interception or the farm more you just made.
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  Speaker 1: Move on to the next play.
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  Speaker 2: And life is kind of like that too, moving on
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  Speaker 2: to the next play, moving on to the next moment,
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  Speaker 2: the next relationships, the next deal. How do you talk
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  Speaker 2: about that when you're talking to your clients.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's a great question.
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  Speaker 3: And again I take you back to my shelve and
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  Speaker 3: methodology that I've instituted and focuses on. So just to
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  Speaker 3: give you a brief overall on what it really talks about.
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  Speaker 3: There are four shelves. Like imagine having the shelf in
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  Speaker 3: front of you where you place your items on.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So there's a four shelf.
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  Speaker 3: There's four shelves, and so there's the immediate shelf, right,
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  Speaker 3: there's the active shelf. Right, there's the holding shelf, and
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  Speaker 3: there's the elimination shelf.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So on the immediate shelf, what you place is what
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  Speaker 3: you need to get done within the next twenty four hours,
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  Speaker 3: what's more urgent than anything else that you think that matters, right.
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  Speaker 3: And so then you have, of course your active shelf,
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  Speaker 3: which is something that's urgent but it can be put
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  Speaker 3: off just a little bit, right. And then we have
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  Speaker 3: our holding shelf, which we want to hold things on
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  Speaker 3: and decide what we want to do. Do we want
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  Speaker 3: to go back to those things, right or do we
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  Speaker 3: just kind of want to just push them in the back.
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  Speaker 3: Then we have the total elimination shelf, which is a
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  Speaker 3: very important shelf because a lot of people hold on
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  Speaker 3: to a lot of thoughts that do not They don't
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  Speaker 3: understand how we can put this on the elimination shelf
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  Speaker 3: and never get back to those thoughts. And once I
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  Speaker 3: help athletes kind of see what shelf that they thought
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  Speaker 3: should be processed on, it helps them focus. It's like
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  Speaker 3: the last play occurred, you can't do anything about that.
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  Speaker 3: You can't take the last play to the next play
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  Speaker 3: because if you if you're sitting there thinking about what occurred,
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  Speaker 3: it didn't go your way, then you're going to be
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  Speaker 3: in the tail spain and then you're not going to
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  Speaker 3: be able to accomplish the goal that you're set forth
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  Speaker 3: to be out here doing.
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  Speaker 1: And that's important.
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  Speaker 2: Goals are important in this process as well, Coase it
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  Speaker 2: is how do you help people set their goals?
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  Speaker 3: So goals have what I call steps to setting goals.
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  Speaker 3: As you know, there's the planning, you know, there's the
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  Speaker 3: there's the execution part of the goal, and then there
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  Speaker 3: is the the actually once you reach the goal, how
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  Speaker 3: do you sustain the goal? So I talked to I
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  Speaker 3: talk to people about their purpose right, walking in your purpose,
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  Speaker 3: walking in your power, because when you walk in your
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  Speaker 3: purpose right, there's no stopping, there's no denying you like,
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  Speaker 3: you can do a lot of different things. But if
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  Speaker 3: it's not your purpose in which you set your goals for,
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  Speaker 3: then sometimes they're going to be obstacles and to reach
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  Speaker 3: your goals. A lot of times it's going to be roadblocks.
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  Speaker 3: As you know, you know they're going to be roadblocks.
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  Speaker 3: And I talked to people a lot about you know,
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  Speaker 3: those roadblocks are learning blocks and you know, don't ever
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  Speaker 3: look at anything that doesn't occur the way you want
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  Speaker 3: it to go as a negative thing, look at it
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  Speaker 3: as a learning experience and find out you know how
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  Speaker 3: you can process this and put this in your purpose
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  Speaker 3: to reach your goals.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master Class.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Money Making Conversation master Class with me
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  Speaker 2: Rashaun McDonald. I'm talking to the doctor Kurt Jones, found
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  Speaker 2: the co founder of Play twenty one Wellness Academy. Let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about rebuilding your confidence after a major setback.
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  Speaker 1: That's part of life.
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  Speaker 2: And that major setback can be defined in a relationship,
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  Speaker 2: can be defined in the death, can be defined in
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  Speaker 2: a business catastrophe or business closing, or an order not
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  Speaker 2: coming in on time that could be a major catastrophe,
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  Speaker 2: or a robbery or security breach. All these a major
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  Speaker 2: in the athlete injury. All these things are not winning
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  Speaker 2: the championship that you thought you had in the bag.
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  Speaker 2: And so these are major setbacks we have to deal
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  Speaker 2: with on a regular basis. And some can be as
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  Speaker 2: trivial us not showing off to work on time and
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  Speaker 2: all your alarm clock can not going off.
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  Speaker 1: These are triggers I call them triggers.
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  Speaker 2: So when you're dealing with these triggers, that can become
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  Speaker 2: major issues if you don't know how to balance the
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  Speaker 2: emotional charge that comes with that, how do you handle
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  Speaker 2: with your clients?
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  Speaker 3: So again, talk about confidence building, right, right. Confidence is
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  Speaker 3: something that a lot of athletes generally have within themselves.
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  Speaker 3: But when they when they're winning, confidence is there. It's
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  Speaker 3: a it's a building stage.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes the momentum in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it's the momentum, it's you know we're winning. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the confidence, you know, the camaraderie or the team. But
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  Speaker 3: let's take an individual sports such as tennis and boxing,
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  Speaker 3: because I have I have some professional athletes some I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure that you've heard about that that was winning and
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  Speaker 3: had a record of forty wins and and uh you
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  Speaker 3: know thirty nine knockouts, right, And so then all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden they lose. So so they lose not just
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  Speaker 3: one fight, but then they lose a strict of three
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  Speaker 3: or four fights, right, Because after the first loss, it
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  Speaker 3: kind of take your confidence.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I can't believe.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: It's kind of a shock, like you can't believe I love, right,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: And then so you're really not really not thinking the
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: way that you used to think when you were winning.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: So now you're taking those old thoughts that that had
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: you lose into the new situation. And then you're still
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: not accomplishing what you set out to do. And then
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: you sustain another law. So now all of these things
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: is beating at you. It seems like the world is
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: collapsing on a lot of times when you're going through this,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: because one one thing leads to another that helped your
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: thoughts trickle down to a point of it becomes dark thoughts.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I want to be around nobody. I want to talk
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: to nobody. All the questions that being asked you now
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: is why did you lose that You're not prepare It's
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: not congratulations no more so now when you when you
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: have set your mind into all of the positive things,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you got to deal with
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: these negative thoughts and these negative questions. Is is negative
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: rural around you? You know, it's hard to build your confidence.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: So what I try to do is I try to
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: remind them of what got you to the point where
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: you were winning. Right, we need to get back to
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: that point, and we need to not only get back
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: to that point, but we need to make that point
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: a better point, because what people don't understand is greatness.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Once you reach the mountain of greatness, right, it's hard
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: to reach for a lot of people. A lot of
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: people haven't been to where these elite athletes has gone.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: So I tell them, you something special, you dig deep
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: into you know, your special part of you? Right, go
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: back to who you know you are. Make yourself better.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the steps. Let's look at footage's look
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: at your greatness. Let's look at some of the things
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: that got you to where you need to be right
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: in order to sustain your greatness and make you better.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: And when they start realizing that, yeah, doctor, right, you
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: know I am a great person. I do believe in
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: myself because because people who lose their confidence, it's not
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: a total loss, it's just set aside and they stop
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: questioning themselves more. And I start saying, don't question yourself.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Know again your purpose? Right, what your purpose is? Why
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: you hear? What do you need to do?
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: And then I've had to retire some people as well,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: some people that think that they can still continue at
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: that levels. And I say, you know, let's just relook
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: at this, right. I never tell a person to quit,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: always say let's relook at where you are in your
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: career and make let them make the decide how they
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: want to proceed with their career.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: You know, I always think of it used the word
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: consistency when I hear somebody like you talk consistency about anything.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I always tell people in my life money through Friday.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I woke up at four thirty eight. That's my time.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: It's not five Thursdays not six. If I charge altering
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that get up time, it does impack my success story
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: for that day. And so anybody who has a career.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I look at careers when when you're in your twenties,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: you don't see forty, you don't see fifty, definitely don't
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: see sixty. It's like when you look at forty, you
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: start to be able to look back and see what
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: have I done consistently that's kept me at forty. And
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: so when I hear individuals like you communicate with other
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: individuals where you're an athlete. If your business opens at eight,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: it needs to open up at eight every day. It
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: can't open up a fifteen eight thirty. I'm tied. When
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I get there, I open it. So that's the inconsistency
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: that you're talking about that athletes have to if they
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: train a certain way. Lebron is successful because he still
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: trains the same way. He carries a trainer with him
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: when he travels, they make his food, and so that's
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the consistency.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: So when they fall.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Off, because you're gonna fall off that track, you're gonna
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: get injured, you're gonna hurt. You're gonna have a relationship
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: that doesn't go the way you expect that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have a business deal that didn't go through.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have an item that didn't sell like you
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: thought it was gonna sell.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You're gonna employ. You might up and quit on you because.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: They saw that. They decided they don't want to work
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: in the morning. But thenybody want to get married, They
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: decided they might want to move. They may have nothing
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: to do with you, but you gotta be prepared. In
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: my office, I've always trained my staff. Somebody goes on vacation.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Guess what, somebody can do their work. Somebody sick, somebody
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: can do their work. And that's all you're saying when
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: you're talking about individuals. And now, I always like to
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: bring a story or a storyteller like you on my
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: show because people watch sports plays such an important role.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: What you see on TV can translate to your everyday
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: life as a student, as a business owner, as a husband,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: as a wife, as a parent.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Correct, listen, You're absolutely right.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: And consistency is one of the things that I often
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: tell individuals when they ask me, well, how can I
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: get here? So one of the one of the biggest,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: one of the biggest things. And I'm gonna ask you
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: this question. Have you ever seen a brinch truck behind
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: a funeral car?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Right right?
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: You understand because that's the because the funeral home is
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: there is the richest place in the rail I mean,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: the graveyard is the richest place in the rail Because
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: people died with with multi million dollar dreams and ideas
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: because they don't know how to scale their businesses to
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: a point where it makes sense for them. It's a
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: great idea from the start, but then they get to
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: a point like that, well when do I do that?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: And you're right, consistency and even consistency when you when
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: you're staying consistent, you got to make small changes right
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: of being able to adapt to certain situations because you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: with the economy, the way it changes a lot of times,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: you know you have to You can't just always figure well,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the same thing I did last year.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: You got to say, well, I'm gonna add little things
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: or make a little change. It's just like with an
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: athlete I got, for instance, this is a this is
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: a good example. I got a athlete right now that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: in the NFL, and he's probably going to end up
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: being a Rookie of the Year.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: To be quite frank with you.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I believe he's going to be the real And I'm
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: never really wrong with a lot of my thinking. I'd
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: just like to say that, but I think he's going
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: to be the Rookie the Year. But he's had some
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: hard times this year because they wasn't winning to the
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: capacity in which he's used to winning right when he
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: was in college.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: So I told the athlete, I said, listen, you got
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: to understand when you are an elite athlete and they
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: got expectations of you, you're going to go to the
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: worst team. The scenario of going to the best player
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: going to the worst team has always played out in
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: your case, right, So how do you stay strong? How
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: do you keep your confidence, keep knowing who you are,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: because it takes time, first of all, to change the
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: whole concept of a team coacher, the great the culture
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: of a team. But they're looking for you to have
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: to institute some of that change and some of that
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: battle so they can get better. And knowing that you got,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: you know, this big weight to carry on your shoulders,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: you know, you got to walk your head up. You
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: got to always let them know what you're about. You
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: go out there and you give it your best, and
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you understand it's a it's a learning process because now
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: you're playing with the best of the best.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: In the world, right right, and the best of the
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: best is what life is about. If you want to
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: be able to compete with the best of the best,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: work consistency. Doctor kurk Jones, I've been mentioning your academy,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Play twenty one Wellness Academy. How do we touch with
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: you as there a website, social media? Let's talk about that, right, yes,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: absolutely so.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: So you know you can always contact us at support
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: us UH support us P twenty one w a dot
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: org and you can always we have a website that's
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: you know, Play twenty one Wellness academy dot com. You
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: can always reach out to us and leave some information
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: if you want to reach us, if you if you're
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: looking to you know, come to some of our seminars.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: We also, as I mentioned to you, Deontay Wilder, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: we have a wellcast, right And everybody says that like
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: a podcast. Yes, absolutely it's a podcast, but it's more
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: of a wellcast because the guests that we bring on
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: our shows, individuals like yourself, are people who we get
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: on there to kind of talk their backgrounds of mental wellness.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: And health and how it's helped.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Them to get into a place of what they are
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: and the things that they had to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: And so.
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  Speaker 3: I would love to, you know, like I said, to
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: have people like yourself for and other individuals to come
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: out so that we can kind of help people understand
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: that you're not out here alone, that the things that
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: you talk about people can relate to. And I think
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: that's the most important factor and what it is that
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I do and what we do is that people can
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: relate to the circumstances that you present in front of them,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: because people are struggling now here right now.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough time.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And then COVID kind of kicked it off, and because
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: people got locked into their homes and they are with
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: individuals they didn't know, or isolation they didn't expect. And
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: now at least it has mental health in the forefront
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: of conversation, when it used to be like, hey, you know,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: don't ask hotel in the mental health community. You know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: you know, success is really amazing, you know, Managi State
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Hardy from twenty twenty sixteen, some of my clients and
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Steven A. Smith, Keith Sweat, Cherry Shepherd, and just personally
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: myself being at the top of the food chain. That's
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a certain pressure that comes with that, you know, and
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: some people don't understand that sometimes it's a lot more
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: far than climbing versus staying, because you're constantly not so
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: much personally under the attack, but mentally under attack because
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: the individuals or the world, there are certain levels of expectations.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: In other words, Patrick Holmes, they expect him to know
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl every year, and now they're looking at
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: it like he's the worst quarterback in the league, say
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: They act like he can't play tighty end no more.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: You know, because that because people put expectations on you.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: The wild part about it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: You accept those expectations, you know, and so success puts
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: that on you. You cannot, as a successful person, say
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: you don't want to win another super Bowl.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: You say, I want to win a super Bowl. So
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: now you.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Actually locked down expectations that you may or may not
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: can't reach. How do you in dealing with your clowns
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and entrepreneurs tell them to temper that, but not deter
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: to the model that they've created, which is success.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: That is a great question, and I'm so glad you
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: asked that, And I'm going to put you into this
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: scenario with the people that you've mentioned. You're Steve Harvey's right,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you're Sherry Shepherd's stephen A. Smith's. Think about the people
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: that you and I have advised. They are the high class,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: top athletes that think and know that they're great. Right,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: So for us we have to know that we're great
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: as well. And only great people want to reach out
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: to have great people help them, because the work of
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: great people sometimes makes people reach back and say, listen,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I had somebody who put things in perspective for me
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: and now and I'm able to understand what this role
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: that I have to play is now, then I can
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: go back and I can help others. And I think
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: that that's important for people like yourself and I that
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: we've done because we brought their whole understanding of yes,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: it's good to put yourself in the spotlight of greatness,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: but how do you help other people become great like
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: you thought that you were sometime.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Or that you believe that you are?
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: And that's all you know, those cliche reach one, teach one,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: you know, help one become great. And I think that's
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: the spotlight that a lot of people kind of don't understand,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: is that when you're dealing with these type of people
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: that you and I talk to and we help out
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: every day, they coming to us with their worse situations,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: right they're talking things to us that we have to
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: help them kind of decipher it through and pick and choose.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Is that important? That's why the shelving method is.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: So important, because you know, when people say, well, how
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: do you go home?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: How do you rest? I get that. I mean, you
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: know who's the person that you throw to, right who
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: we like to do.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: So what I've learned to do, I know how to
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: separate what I do and who I am right, and
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: it helps me, you know, sustain out through the course
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: of my day, because if I'm preaching it, then I
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: have to believe it. Let's talk about relationship, doctor Kirch, okay,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: because that's also a part of the process. You know,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: you know, you're successful over here and sometimes you come
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: home and you solid tame. You know, don't communicate, don't
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: know how to communicate because you tie to communicate. How
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: do you balance that and how do you talk to
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: your clients or is that part of the communication that
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: you deal with with your clans their personal relationships. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: deal with all of that. And it's funny that you
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: mentioned that as you was asking me. You know, I
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: have sessions with not only a business professionals, but married couples.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I'm talking and I'm talking high class married couples, like
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I have an orthopedic doctor and his wife who's also
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: a doctor as one of my clients, and so, uh,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: they have a situation going on where it was just
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: you know, how do we balance the work, how do
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: we balance the home relationships? And we and we make
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: these things work at the house. So what I try
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: and understand, let people understand that you have to balance it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: It's like the fourth steps. Here's the thing that's force.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: There's really four steps to life, right.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: And you know this.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: You know when you get fifty, they're like, oh you
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: half almost over. You're seventy five. You know you you
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: lucky to be this age. You get to one hundred,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: you know you got less days of fun.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: You you know how this go.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: So so I tell people, you know that that balance
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: of life, like my four Shelvy methods, you got to
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: be able to leave work at work, come home and
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: focus on your your home life right. And then whatever
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: businesses that you gotta deal with outside of their home life.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: You know you gotta you gotta, you know, balance these
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: things out. And a lot of times men and we
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: don't talk about men a little bit. Men we carry
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: a huge burden. We feel like we got so much
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: on our shoulders. We can't cry. We gotta be the
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: strength for everyone else, right, we got to just carry
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: the load. We got to pay the bills. And that's
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: a lot for some people. I get a lot of
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: my men, especially my professional men and high class athletes,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: that say, man, this is a lot for me to carry, right,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: But guess what it's walking in your purpose again, right, how.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Do you how do you carry this? Well?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: You gotta balance it out and you got to understand it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: And once you understand it, then you you're better able
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: to deal with it. And that's why I'm good at
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: helping people try to understand why is this putting on
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: you your responsibilities, and how do we move forward as
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: we deal with these situations.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: You know, the situations are when they are normal, you
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: accept it. In one of the situations, when they abnormal,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you kind of questioning. And like you mentioned athletes, you know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: they're supposed to be a certain way. That's why mental
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: health and athletes in the military, you don't want anybody
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: to say I'm stressing in their military leaders. You know,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: you don't ever want the President of the United States
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: saying they go to a therapist.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: You know, certain things you don't want to hear because.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: And that's what stress comes in, because you can't be
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: normal in a way, you know, because in life can
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: force you in a position where you have to be
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: abnormal in a normal situation because you can't seek out help.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: And so I always remember that in myself. You know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm under stress on the regular basis all
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: the time, all the time. And now I've learned to
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: balance it. Now that's not good. I've never had an ulcer.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I would tell this sir about my wife. She is
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: a what are you tired? And I tell her I'm
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: tired right down, you know. But I've learned to balance that.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not telling anybody that's a good thing, you know.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: But in life, in order to be successful, you're going
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: to have to set aside balance that You're going to
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: have to be uncomfortable to be comfortable.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: You gotta you, gotta you, you. You hit the neel
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: right on the head. And I tell people you can't
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: stay comfortable. And when you're when you're pursuing the gold
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: of dreaming and ambition, right, you have to get out
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  Speaker 3: of your comfort zone. But you got to also know
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  Speaker 3: how to pull yourself away from that discomfort and put
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  Speaker 3: yourself in the comfort zone. A lot of people don't
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  Speaker 3: know how to do that because it's like you say,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes it's just work, work, Wake up?
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  Speaker 1: What do I need to do? What I need to do?
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  Speaker 1: What I need to do?
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  Speaker 3: Well, when you realize that a lot of especially black men,
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  Speaker 3: are are walking around with you know, heart murmurs and
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  Speaker 3: and uh, you know high blood pressure. You know all
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  Speaker 3: these things that's causing early death right because they carry
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  Speaker 3: so much stress.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: My first thing that I always would tell somebody when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to your health and your wellness is to
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  Speaker 3: go to your doctor. That's the first thing I always say.
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  Speaker 3: Make sure that all your levels are good. Right, no
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  Speaker 3: matter what capacity or work you're in, go to your
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  Speaker 3: doctor and make sure that you know all your vital
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  Speaker 3: signs are good. Because when I when I talk to
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  Speaker 3: a lot of my players and I said, when the
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  Speaker 3: last time you had a you know physical, they go
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  Speaker 3: and you know a lot of athletes it's required for
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  Speaker 3: them to have physicals. But like on a lot of
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  Speaker 3: men be like, oh I'm good, No even women, go
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  Speaker 3: see your doctor. And that's what we're going to start.
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  Speaker 3: So like a person like yourself who's always on a goal,
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  Speaker 3: who's you know, always working longer, if your vital signs
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  Speaker 3: are good, then we start. Then then you know that
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  Speaker 3: your body is good, and that's how you can kind
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  Speaker 3: of start on this path of you know, ease men
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  Speaker 3: and relaxation say to be able to continue, you but
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  Speaker 3: then it has to be a goal for you also
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  Speaker 3: like a hard working person that's used to working, like
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  Speaker 3: yourself and Steve Harvey and all these athletes, what is
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  Speaker 3: your ultimate goal, Like, what is it that you really
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  Speaker 3: want to want to want to accomplish that you haven't accomplished, right,
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  Speaker 3: so that you can kind of start easing out of
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  Speaker 3: the tension of feeling like I'm always having to hustle.
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  Speaker 3: And so once you feel like I found a you know,
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  Speaker 3: I found a way to kind of, you know, push
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  Speaker 3: away some of their stresses and I can now focus
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  Speaker 3: on the merry life, right, the happy life, then I will,
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  Speaker 3: I would say, focus on that. And then I often
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  Speaker 3: tell my clients and my athletes to reward yourself. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say to you, you probably don't give yourself
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  Speaker 3: enough self reward. Self reward is great. See a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people look for social media and all these people
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  Speaker 3: to be out here giving them rewards. And you know, athletes,
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  Speaker 3: you know and put it, but give it to yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Give it to yourself because you've been able to put
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  Speaker 3: yourself in a situation where you got trusted client tele
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  Speaker 3: people with big names to say, brother Rassan, you are,
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  Speaker 3: I believe in you, right, And that's a reward that
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  Speaker 3: you have to give to yourself, and like I said,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of us we don't reward ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: As you close, doctor Kirk Jones, any platforms we missed
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  Speaker 2: or any new books we need to bring out.
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  Speaker 3: On Yes, actually I have a book. Well, I have
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  Speaker 3: a book out now called Shitetown Blueprints that shown Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Shitetown Blueprints actually brought you a copy Shitetown Blueprints that
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  Speaker 3: that's out now. You can you know, upload this in digital.
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  Speaker 3: It's a hard soft back and it talks about my
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  Speaker 3: story growing up in Chicago and how I became a
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  Speaker 3: sports psychologist and the loss of my best friend Benji,
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  Speaker 3: and how I'm helping out a lot of athletes and
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  Speaker 3: other individuals. And I think it's a great story because
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  Speaker 3: it talks about mental resilience and because we all got
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  Speaker 3: a story that we want to tell and how do
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  Speaker 3: we piece those stories together to make it work within
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  Speaker 3: our purpose. And also I'm coming out with my workbook
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  Speaker 3: it should be out soon about my shelving method that
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  Speaker 3: you know, we're taking on the national stage with talking
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  Speaker 3: to schools, colleges, university, HBCUs and doctors and lawyers to
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  Speaker 3: help them kind of you know, stay focused and understand
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  Speaker 3: what their purposes are.
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  Speaker 1: Dorek Kirk one more time.
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  Speaker 3: Your website it is P twenty one WA dot org,
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  Speaker 3: and then it's play twenty one Wellness Academy dot dot com.
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