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Interview of the Week: Chris Gaston, CEO of Family First Sports Firm, represents Sacramento Kings, De’Aaron Fox · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: My next guest as a Eustonian. I'm from Houston, so
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Speaker 1: I'm always happened to bring on the fellow us tonight
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Speaker 1: onto the show. It's Chris Gaston. Chris Gaston fold founded
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Speaker 1: Family First Sports Firm with his wife in twenty and eighteen.
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Speaker 1: The agency Family First focused on empowerment, economic growth, and
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Speaker 1: black excellence. The agency represents DeAndre Darren Darren Fox of
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Speaker 1: the That's just correct, I say the right deer in
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Speaker 1: Fox of the Sacramento Kings. Gaston is signed the largest
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Speaker 1: contract in the Sacramento Kings franchise history five years, a
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three million, and then secured a four
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Speaker 1: million dollar deal for Damien Dodson, former U of H
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Speaker 1: grad That's why I went to school and the toughest
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Speaker 1: free agent market and in NBA history. He's now with
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavalier Leers. He originally started out the New
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Speaker 1: York Knicks. Gaston made his way in the industry through
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Speaker 1: player development, working with many of the top players in
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Speaker 1: the NBA college in high school. Please welcome to money
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Speaker 1: making conversation A man who understands relationships, Mr Chris Gaston. Yes,
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Speaker 1: sir man man, pleasure to have me man, know you
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Speaker 1: was in Houston native, so I was good talking to
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Speaker 1: a fellow Houston guy. You know, we're very proud. You
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Speaker 1: know we were to that age symbol on our on
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Speaker 1: our hearts and man, wherever we go, well you have
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Speaker 1: to you know, I will also be broadcasting on KTSU,
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Speaker 1: so this show would be area KSU and the Houston
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Speaker 1: market on that every Tuesday from twel to one. So
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Speaker 1: make sure this episode airs in the Houston market. So
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Speaker 1: you know, again you have a brand that you developed.
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Speaker 1: And I started that out by saying relationships because when
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Speaker 1: we talk about working with NBA players or top college
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Speaker 1: players in NBA college in high school, talking about your
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Speaker 1: journey right quick, Chris, because everybody wants to be an agent.
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Speaker 1: But you can be an agent, but if you don't
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Speaker 1: have the relationships, then you don't have talent to sign
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Speaker 1: to these big deals that we just talked about in
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Speaker 1: your opening credits. Man, being an agent is all about relationships, man,
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Speaker 1: and you know these relationships don't happen. It's just like
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Speaker 1: building trusts. You can't build trusts overnight. So these relationships
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Speaker 1: are ten, fifteen, twenty years in the making. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not an overnight success. You know I started, Man,
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Speaker 1: I grinded from the bottom. I started working on high
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Speaker 1: school girls. You know that I was blessing up that.
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Speaker 1: You know a guy that I called, you know, like
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Speaker 1: my little brother, a guy by the name of Tommy
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Speaker 1: Mason Griffin and know him since he was in the
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Speaker 1: second and third grade. You know, I started working with
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Speaker 1: him and he turned out to be a McDonald's all American,
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Speaker 1: you know, out of Madison High School, high school I
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Speaker 1: went to. And it kind of snowball from there, man
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Speaker 1: to just working guys out. UM started an AU program.
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Speaker 1: Thought I wanted to be a college coach. That didn't
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Speaker 1: work out, and it just kept growing and growing. I
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Speaker 1: just kept grinding and grinding. This is you know, this
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Speaker 1: is years and years of relationship to get to this point.
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Speaker 1: So you know, everybody wants to be a Rich Paul
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Speaker 1: or Jeremy Grin and they could just wake up over
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Speaker 1: and I even take a test become an agent. It's
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Speaker 1: not that simple. Man, Well, he had the ultimate relationship.
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Speaker 1: That's uh called Lebron James and that's him Maverick and
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Speaker 1: uhre's a great story about black men who started out
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Speaker 1: in high school who built a sports empire, a media empire,
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Speaker 1: and a philanthropic UH empire. As we all know, Labron
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Speaker 1: is very influential. And the h A movement and civil
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Speaker 1: rights arrested, UH siver arrested happened this summer as well
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Speaker 1: as the getting not to vote. And so how does
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Speaker 1: that play to your agency? Because we talk about your
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Speaker 1: agency and focuses on empowerment, economic growth and black excellent,
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Speaker 1: Let's start with the empowerment part. What empowerment is first,
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Speaker 1: I have to empower myself, Yes, because people that look
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Speaker 1: like me, that walk and talk like me, that where
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Speaker 1: they're haired, and you know, any type of style they want,
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Speaker 1: they don't get opportunities in this business. Their stereotype, their judge.
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Speaker 1: It's just hard. Like you know, majority of the men
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Speaker 1: own the court, players on the court, or African American
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Speaker 1: or minorities, but the majority of the business that happens
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Speaker 1: off the court. People hearing these guys careers are whitening
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Speaker 1: and it's just lopside. And you know, I've been here
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Speaker 1: being through changing that and given you know, all minorities
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Speaker 1: and women a chance and empowerment this business. So um,
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Speaker 1: I'm not slaying to hiring one person or another but
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Speaker 1: I but I knew I'm big on hiring minorities and
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Speaker 1: people who normally wouldn't get a chance to work in
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Speaker 1: this industry. That's very important thing I can I can
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Speaker 1: relate to you. You know, I managed Steve hard in
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Speaker 1: my background, Steve Harvey. Talents like Steve Harvey doesn't get
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Speaker 1: associated with talents like me, which can mean that people
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Speaker 1: of color. I currently managed Steven A. Smith, a high
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Speaker 1: profile person in the media, especially on the NBA side
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Speaker 1: with ESPN and negotiating contracts. So it's all that part
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Speaker 1: about negotiating, being in that doorway, being able to look
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Speaker 1: at individuals that represented by UH majority firms majority first
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Speaker 1: like ci A, H William mars U t A and
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Speaker 1: other other sports agencies that that get out there and
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Speaker 1: get the athlete first and then used to what happens
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Speaker 1: they have the ability to court them longer and especially
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Speaker 1: happens in the football industry, but also in the basketball
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Speaker 1: industry a little bit different because of the fact that
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Speaker 1: that's a nurturing process. A you probably programs or i
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Speaker 1: MG kind of setting it up where they got people,
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Speaker 1: they got you go down there and participate in their camps.
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Speaker 1: So but you got in with Mr Fox who's out
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Speaker 1: of Houston, and Damien Dodson, who went to University Houston.
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Speaker 1: So these are two people in Houston based. Talk about
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Speaker 1: how you established your relationship with Fox, because they also
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Speaker 1: were two talented twins out of the Houston market that
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Speaker 1: also wins. They went to Kentucky and uh and a
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Speaker 1: lot was expected of those two young men, you know,
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Speaker 1: because they were they were much of ballyhoo in fact
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Speaker 1: that they were even more balued than their Darren was
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Speaker 1: when he came out of the AD. When they these guys,
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Speaker 1: they had all the hype around him. But I can't speak.
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Speaker 1: I don't know specifically what happened with those guys. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they were great players and just I mean the NBA
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Speaker 1: is hard. Just didn't paying out for those guys. But
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Speaker 1: as far as my relationship with with Damien Dodson, he's
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Speaker 1: actually a family Um. He's my wife's cousin, so i'm him.
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Speaker 1: When I first started day with my wife and Daniel
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Speaker 1: was back in six six or seventh grade, he was Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he was just with me everywhere. He wasn't a big
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Speaker 1: time prospect or, like you said, a badly hoover fruit.
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Speaker 1: He was a guy. We just put our head down
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Speaker 1: and went to work every day. We grinded. I mean
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Speaker 1: when he went to some trials and tribulations at Oregon
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Speaker 1: get the Transport University of Right and then you know,
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Speaker 1: my relationship with darn Fox start when he was in
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Speaker 1: the fighth grade. I had my own youth program and
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Speaker 1: one of my friends that was going to be his
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Speaker 1: coach at the high school said, uh, you should have
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Speaker 1: come let this kid and play for a tournament on
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Speaker 1: your seven team and the under program. I'm like, I'm
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Speaker 1: not letting a fight grade kid come playing up with
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Speaker 1: these juniors and seniors. They're like, now, you should let
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Speaker 1: him co play. He's gonna be pretty good. So I
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Speaker 1: let him come play one tournament, and that was all
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Speaker 1: she wrote. You know, we've been attacked attached at the
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Speaker 1: hip ever since. And I'll say that's the difference between
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Speaker 1: me and Rich Paul. A lot of people try to
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Speaker 1: compare Rich Paul. Per Se was these guys peers and
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Speaker 1: kind of grew up with them and hung out with
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Speaker 1: those guys. You know, me and Darren we want peers.
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Speaker 1: I was I was a man, he was a child.
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Speaker 1: You know. I was more of a mentor, a big brother.
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Speaker 1: And now actually that he's older, we grew into a
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Speaker 1: different type of relationship. But I wasn't some guy hanging
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Speaker 1: out at the club with him and calling and texting
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Speaker 1: him like. No, I was a professional businessman like this
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Speaker 1: wasn't like you know, some homeboy hookup type stuff like.
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Speaker 1: But it's all about trust. It's all about trust because
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Speaker 1: you started earlier, you know, when I when I started
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Speaker 1: reason to resumeate Chris, you know, because you know, coaching
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Speaker 1: a lot of discipline in your life, a lot of development,
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Speaker 1: a lot of motivation comes out your resume, you know
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Speaker 1: when I look at it, and let's talk about us
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Speaker 1: walk through these steps. Because I'm not trying to bash
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Speaker 1: anybody on this show. When I talked about the Harrison Twins,
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Speaker 1: because but that's how this business is. You can come
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Speaker 1: out much Bally who they went to Kentucky, had an
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Speaker 1: incredible career, but then flaws in their game started to
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Speaker 1: pop up. You know, could have could have handled Rock.
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Speaker 1: Who's what position is it gonna play? Does he play good? D?
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Speaker 1: But when I looked at Foxes game, I remember when
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Speaker 1: he played against Ball, who was much barely hood. How
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Speaker 1: do you c l a, and there was much talk
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Speaker 1: after he clowned him. I mean he claimed ball, you know,
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Speaker 1: in the in the tournament that okay, it's ball A.
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Speaker 1: Fox should go as we see now, Fox should have
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Speaker 1: went number two and not Ball, who's been a very
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Speaker 1: competent player. But again, hype, Ken, how do you slice
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Speaker 1: through the hype because I remember emotionally, I was really
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Speaker 1: charmed by by Daren when he was crying on TV
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Speaker 1: after that loss. I was really man with hype. We
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Speaker 1: try to block out the noise, man, because there's gonna
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Speaker 1: be so many people in your ears, so many people
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Speaker 1: telling you how good you are, like we always want more. Man.
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Speaker 1: Darren's dad and his mom, they did a great job
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Speaker 1: of keeping him absolutely. Remember after his preshoneer in high school,
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Speaker 1: Darren had a fifty two point game, two points, and
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Speaker 1: all his dad was fussing about after the game, you
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Speaker 1: missed these rebounds, you missed these balls, you missed these
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Speaker 1: three throws. Let's go to the gym, the ninety two
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Speaker 1: pre throws. So it's about keeping keeping, you know, And
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Speaker 1: it's hard to stay humber when you're getting all these
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Speaker 1: press Philippians, all these rankings and stuff. So that's why
10:09
Speaker 1: you're you're supporting circle, your people around your family. They
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Speaker 1: are very crucial to the player of development. You gotta
10:15
Speaker 1: keep these guys humble. You know, to your point that
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Speaker 1: Hash and Twins had a lot of hype, and um,
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Speaker 1: I mean it just didn't work out. I mean the
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Speaker 1: NBA is hard business. Like you said, they got Nippick
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Speaker 1: when they got to Kentucky. They had a lot of
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Speaker 1: question marks about the game and it just didn't work out.
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Speaker 1: But you know, you have to stay humble. You have
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Speaker 1: to block out the noise. You cannot get caught up
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Speaker 1: in the hype. I've seen the number one pick Anthony
10:37
Speaker 1: Bennett of the NBA. Now, so I tell people, don't
10:42
Speaker 1: get caught up in the rankings or pick. You go
10:44
Speaker 1: the jobs to get in the league and stay in
10:46
Speaker 1: the league. You know well that some people that get
10:49
Speaker 1: too caught up in the rankings and who's what. But
10:51
Speaker 1: we don't get caught up in that. We don't what
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Speaker 1: the thing about it. So so with that being said,
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Speaker 1: because that's that's that's daring. Okay, here's it got buch
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Speaker 1: belly who And then you go to Damien Dodson. You
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Speaker 1: know when he left your h you know, uh. And
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Speaker 1: he made the New York Niche team after the tough
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Speaker 1: defense and he has a good outside shop, good three points.
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Speaker 1: So he had talked about that process because I was
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Speaker 1: a different motivation process because the Fox was a lot
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Speaker 1: of repick, a certain amount of guarantees. You know, he
11:21
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna get cut his first year. We knew that.
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Speaker 1: But Damien went in talking about that process and getting
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Speaker 1: them on the New York Knicks and now he's over
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Speaker 1: Cleveland now. But I was so proud because he was
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Speaker 1: He's a really talented NBA player right Well with Damien,
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Speaker 1: you know, we have a monel man. I always know
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Speaker 1: his work, you know, dream big, working hard, let God
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Speaker 1: do the rest. And so that was kind of about model.
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Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna put We're gonna work as hard
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Speaker 1: as we can, and wherever the chips may fall, we're
11:48
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna be happy with that. So his process
11:50
Speaker 1: was very different coming out of the University of Houston
11:52
Speaker 1: there with no guarantees. We packed our badge and went
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Speaker 1: to l A. We started training. He had to go
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Speaker 1: to the camp called the COURSEM Invitational the p I T,
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Speaker 1: which is for the top seniors in the country. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: and he went there, he bawled out, he won m
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Speaker 1: VP of the tournament. And from there he got invited
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Speaker 1: to the Chicago Combine, which is for the top sixty
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Speaker 1: prospects in the NBA Draft. He played well there, um
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Speaker 1: and he we had several NBA workouts, not no for him.
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Speaker 1: He played what he did with I mean he stepped,
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Speaker 1: he knocked it out the park, and I mean it
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Speaker 1: was a ground. He's grueling, is mentally taxing, but he's
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Speaker 1: built for this man. And you know that's the reason
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Speaker 1: why he's sticking in the NBA to day, because he
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Speaker 1: just has that for the two to to fight through adversity.
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Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about that there. Sticking in the NBA.
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Speaker 1: These guys are given a lot of money to how
12:42
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Speaker 1: And so I always believe that some of these young
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Speaker 1: it can't be done that way, how do you deal
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13:43
Speaker 1: can advise them to do don't do X. The financial
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Speaker 1: and butter when I got in the business player development.
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Speaker 1: You know, a k A working guys out training and
17:17
Speaker 1: I never just call it training. I call it player
17:19
Speaker 1: development because we were doing more than just working out.
17:22
Speaker 1: We've been in a relationship, We're talking about life, we're
17:24
Speaker 1: talking about girls, god school. So that's why I say
17:27
Speaker 1: player development instead of training. Training is a word I
17:31
Speaker 1: feel they used to put you in the box where
17:32
Speaker 1: like this is all you can do, right, But player
17:35
Speaker 1: development that was my bread and butter. Man I studied.
17:38
Speaker 1: I learned it from you know, one of my mentors
17:40
Speaker 1: as a guy by name and am sorry Lamin. He's
17:43
Speaker 1: a look not many people know him. He's a he's
17:46
Speaker 1: a head coach at a small n A school in Florida.
17:49
Speaker 1: But he's one of my mentors. He's kind of like
17:51
Speaker 1: a who's whisper. He was kind of a training guru. Man.
17:54
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from him, and that's where I
17:57
Speaker 1: cut my teeth at just on the floor. Working guy
18:00
Speaker 1: is all and I didn't take it for granted. You know,
18:02
Speaker 1: each player that I had in the gym, whether you're
18:04
Speaker 1: a high school kid or an NBA player, you know,
18:06
Speaker 1: I would go home steady a game, watch film and
18:09
Speaker 1: break it up, and I'll be a ball all night
18:11
Speaker 1: and study and trying to see how can I make
18:14
Speaker 1: this player, How can I elevate this game? What can
18:16
Speaker 1: I do? Really cut my teeth is because I want
18:20
Speaker 1: to talk about that, because you know I'm gonna tell you, Chris,
18:23
Speaker 1: I thought I was a hoopster. I thought I had game.
18:26
Speaker 1: You know, I was so arrogant. I didn't. I didn't.
18:29
Speaker 1: I was all park, as they said, because I never
18:30
Speaker 1: played high school ball. But I was all park. You
18:32
Speaker 1: know funding come on Funday, you know I go down
18:36
Speaker 1: to McGregor Park. I had all the best black parks
18:39
Speaker 1: back in the day. I was there. I walked on
18:41
Speaker 1: the court. You know, I was first pick, first pick
18:43
Speaker 1: on the sideline shot. Come on, I want you. I
18:46
Speaker 1: want you. But then I was stupid too because I
18:48
Speaker 1: didn't understand the fundamentals of the game. I didn't understand that.
18:52
Speaker 1: And that's that's what we're talking about right now, because
18:55
Speaker 1: one thing I've learned, when you play street balls, Yes,
18:58
Speaker 1: there were players I think that will probably other than
19:00
Speaker 1: the team ALIA wants their plays out there that I'll
19:03
Speaker 1: jump Dominiquhippers right, they're probably physically better than Lebron James.
19:10
Speaker 1: You might be going too far with him, man, but
19:12
Speaker 1: I get your point when you say nothing, come on
19:14
Speaker 1: that talented guys on the on the on the gonna
19:17
Speaker 1: be come. I'm talking about street ball. I'm talking about
19:21
Speaker 1: that hitting these parks. It's some guys out there, man,
19:26
Speaker 1: they can leap. It's some guys out there can do
19:29
Speaker 1: like like they had that contest there was on T
19:31
Speaker 1: and T all these guys who could dunk. Oh, they
19:34
Speaker 1: can dunk a ball. They can do three sixties. They
19:36
Speaker 1: can flip the ball over the back, but they can't
19:38
Speaker 1: play the game. And that's why I'm getting there with me.
19:41
Speaker 1: I was talented, but I couldn't play the game. I
19:43
Speaker 1: didn't understand that player development part of that. You were
19:46
Speaker 1: talking about working with the team. That's why I say,
19:50
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is that you understood it, and
19:53
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing that that like you said that
19:55
Speaker 1: basketball whisperer, being able to articulate what what the next
19:59
Speaker 1: step for the from players? How do you get in
20:01
Speaker 1: their head and how do we eventually listen to you?
20:05
Speaker 1: They do they learn from the little no ship you
20:07
Speaker 1: give this or that makes sense because that's a whole,
20:10
Speaker 1: that's a huge trust. It's just a little nuances. Man,
20:12
Speaker 1: some some guys, I never raised my voice. I never yell.
20:17
Speaker 1: I rarely curse. You know, some guys like to scream
20:20
Speaker 1: and yell and get over here. You know me, I
20:23
Speaker 1: just talked to him. I literally talked to him, and
20:26
Speaker 1: you know, break stuff down. Hey, did you see the
20:27
Speaker 1: way Yannest did a one too into its pull up?
20:30
Speaker 1: We want to do the same thing. You know, he'll
20:32
Speaker 1: where I say a little phrase like you know, he'll
20:34
Speaker 1: toe explode into a jump shot or and you know,
20:37
Speaker 1: elementary things, hand in the cookie jar when you shoot,
20:41
Speaker 1: make sure when you're crossing over, get your shoulders to
20:43
Speaker 1: the defenders. Hills, just a little key points that when
20:46
Speaker 1: they started playing, they can hear that my voice in
20:48
Speaker 1: their head. I'm about to go by this guy and
20:50
Speaker 1: make sure I get low protective ball. It's just a
20:52
Speaker 1: little small nuances. It's nothing crazy and over the top.
20:56
Speaker 1: It's just being a hat. And the main thing for
20:59
Speaker 1: these guys to trust you is you gotta have a
21:00
Speaker 1: relationship with I don't have a relationship with you. They're
21:02
Speaker 1: not gonna trust you with the most precious thing, which
21:05
Speaker 1: is the basketball, with their game. Okay, cool, And that's
21:08
Speaker 1: a lot of people miss out on the relationship part.
21:11
Speaker 1: Those are the best coaches that relationship with their players,
21:13
Speaker 1: players that run through a brick wall for them. Right.
21:15
Speaker 1: You know. Now we talked about empowerment. Let's go to
21:18
Speaker 1: economic growth. Let's talk about that from your firm. We're
21:21
Speaker 1: talking about Chris Gaston. He is an amazing company out
21:24
Speaker 1: of Houston, Texas and found in Tween with his wife
21:26
Speaker 1: called Family First Sports Firm. Talk. We talked about empowerment
21:30
Speaker 1: that your firm. Let's talk about the economic growth. Yeah,
21:35
Speaker 1: I didn't hear the last part. You could. I apologize.
21:38
Speaker 1: As we were talking about your firm, you know that
21:39
Speaker 1: you founded in Tween called Family First Sports Firm. We
21:43
Speaker 1: talked about empowerment. Let's talk about the economic growth that
21:47
Speaker 1: you deal with your players. Right. Well, one thing we
21:50
Speaker 1: want to do is we want to put the dollar
21:53
Speaker 1: black back in the black community. You know. Um. We
21:58
Speaker 1: we want to invest in small businesses. We want to
22:00
Speaker 1: support um young entrepreneurs. We want to get like I said,
22:04
Speaker 1: we want to we were voice for the unheard. We
22:06
Speaker 1: want to speak for the unheard. Man, it's not saying
22:09
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do with big companies and stuff. I mean,
22:11
Speaker 1: we gotta deal with Nike, we gotta we do deals
22:13
Speaker 1: with Red Bulls. So that's not to say we're not done.
22:16
Speaker 1: We're not stupid. When we say economic growth. We want
22:19
Speaker 1: to put the dollar black back in the black community.
22:22
Speaker 1: You know. We want these players to help their family out,
22:24
Speaker 1: but do it in a way that's gonna create growth,
22:27
Speaker 1: not just say, man, mom, here go a hundred thousand
22:29
Speaker 1: dollars like no, Mama, we're gonna create a company or
22:34
Speaker 1: escorp or LLC. You're gonna be the you know, create
22:37
Speaker 1: a foundation and grow it, you know, not just here
22:40
Speaker 1: goes some money, like no, you take this money and multiplied,
22:43
Speaker 1: you know, making times ten, you know, teen x and
22:45
Speaker 1: growing in something else. So that's what we mean when
22:47
Speaker 1: we say economic growth. Just teaching these players financial literacy
22:51
Speaker 1: and you know, financial growth. And that's what so many,
22:54
Speaker 1: not just in basketball, but at all sports. The financial
22:58
Speaker 1: literacy part fails so many because they don't have mentors.
23:01
Speaker 1: Because I consider your mentor too to these young men,
23:04
Speaker 1: because as well as an agent representative so black excellence.
23:09
Speaker 1: You know, I hear black excellent throughout your force. I
23:12
Speaker 1: hear the ability to give back to the black community.
23:15
Speaker 1: That's all part of the empowerment. Now, we went through
23:18
Speaker 1: a very amazing season that happened this year because of
23:22
Speaker 1: COVID eighteen and the civil unrest. We saw the actual
23:26
Speaker 1: NBA walk off the court basically based on the incident
23:29
Speaker 1: that happened in Milwaukee. How did your players deal with
23:32
Speaker 1: that and how did you deal with it? Chris Um.
23:37
Speaker 1: It was a very emotional time. As you know. Damien Dodson,
23:40
Speaker 1: he went to Yatees High School which grew up in
23:43
Speaker 1: the same neighborhood, same high school as George Floyd. So
23:45
Speaker 1: they hit close to home. And you know Stephen Jackson,
23:48
Speaker 1: you know, he's a good friend of mine. He's one
23:49
Speaker 1: of the people are starting to business. One of the
23:51
Speaker 1: first NBA players I started working out. Uh, you know
23:54
Speaker 1: that he was very close to George Floyd. I mean
23:56
Speaker 1: they called each other twins, so that I mean they
23:58
Speaker 1: hit home for us. They hit close to and actually
24:01
Speaker 1: one of the players and there I knew from Yates
24:03
Speaker 1: High schools George Floyd was his cousin, which I didn't know,
24:06
Speaker 1: And so they're close to home. So we participated in
24:08
Speaker 1: the marches in Houston, um Fox, you know, we went
24:11
Speaker 1: and flew up the Sacramento participated in peaceful protests. And
24:15
Speaker 1: I say peaceful because you know we want the ones
24:17
Speaker 1: riding and looting. But that's a story for another day.
24:20
Speaker 1: But participating in peace for protests and Sacramento. And we
24:26
Speaker 1: just encouraged our players to vote and speak out on
24:28
Speaker 1: any issues. Foxes very vocal on his issues and even
24:33
Speaker 1: even wore entire racists on the back of this jersey
24:35
Speaker 1: in the bubble. You know, so all our players are
24:37
Speaker 1: very outspoken and you know, very vocal about the movement.
24:41
Speaker 1: Um that was that's going on. Now, that's really important
24:44
Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, if social media
24:48
Speaker 1: plays a role in that, you know, because you have
24:50
Speaker 1: to be conscious of social media can be a double
24:53
Speaker 1: as sword. You know, you could post the wrong thing
24:55
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden people criticize it for
24:57
Speaker 1: you post the right thing and then get increased. The
24:59
Speaker 1: engage meant that you want what what what? What? What
25:03
Speaker 1: message are you trying to allow your players to put
25:06
Speaker 1: out there? Like say, you talk about community of all,
25:09
Speaker 1: when you talk about black excellent, you talk about economic growth.
25:11
Speaker 1: We talked about empowerment, but what is your company? You know,
25:14
Speaker 1: because you say family first, what does that mean when
25:16
Speaker 1: you say family first? Family first is exactly what it means.
25:21
Speaker 1: Your family is first. And just like a real family,
25:23
Speaker 1: you're not gonna always disagree. I mean not, I mean people,
25:26
Speaker 1: You're not gonna always agree. I always gonna be on
25:28
Speaker 1: the same page. But at the end of the day,
25:29
Speaker 1: you know, it's all of you know, we all lived
25:31
Speaker 1: together for the coming, for the coming goods. So that's
25:34
Speaker 1: exactly what it means. And family first means, you know,
25:38
Speaker 1: empowering your people. It's okay to grow with the people
25:42
Speaker 1: that got you to where you are, you know, and
25:44
Speaker 1: most agencies, most companies, I see, guys make it to
25:46
Speaker 1: a certain status and then the agency takes it from there, like, okay,
25:50
Speaker 1: we got it from here. Now you know, uh, your
25:53
Speaker 1: youth coach, you coach, your mom and your daddy. You
25:56
Speaker 1: know they helped you get to this point. But now
25:58
Speaker 1: they're done. You know, we got it from here. Obviously,
26:01
Speaker 1: the player is gonna grow and they're not gonna be
26:03
Speaker 1: depended upon their family and things of that nature. But
26:07
Speaker 1: we still try to do things to make sure that
26:09
Speaker 1: the family is important. Like when Darren signed his Max contract,
26:13
Speaker 1: you know, we had a big it's a picture on
26:14
Speaker 1: instated a big family celebration in Houston. You know, all
26:18
Speaker 1: black gutar. It's probably over thirty people there, you know,
26:22
Speaker 1: so we know we celebrated together as a family, not
26:24
Speaker 1: me and Dearn in a private room by ourself, you know,
26:27
Speaker 1: popping a bottle and all. We celebrated with everybody that
26:30
Speaker 1: was important in his life. You know, we celebrated that together.
26:33
Speaker 1: That was accomplishment for everybody. Because it takes a village,
26:36
Speaker 1: but it takes a village. But they also lives in
26:38
Speaker 1: a different city, Sacramento, and he's born and raised in Houston, Texas.
26:42
Speaker 1: How does that allow him to be the person he
26:44
Speaker 1: wants to be because Sacramento is a much farther the environment,
26:47
Speaker 1: as far as population, it's not as I want to say,
26:51
Speaker 1: African American friendly as the city of Houston is. So
26:55
Speaker 1: how does he deal with that? Mr? Fox Um, he's
26:59
Speaker 1: a very smart dude. He's a very cultural dude. And
27:01
Speaker 1: I said his parents have done a great job of
27:04
Speaker 1: keeping him grounded. His mom has a foundation, Foxhole Family
27:07
Speaker 1: Foundation and supports breast counsel wareness because she's a breast
27:10
Speaker 1: counsel sur about that. Yes, and the dad started AU
27:13
Speaker 1: Team Team Fox, you know, for the seven of every graders.
27:17
Speaker 1: So that keeps him connected to the city of Houston.
27:19
Speaker 1: That keeps him ground. He comes back and supports the
27:22
Speaker 1: Air You program, comes back to tournaments, he comes back
27:24
Speaker 1: to events that his mom's doing, so that keeps them
27:27
Speaker 1: very connected and tied to the city of Houston. Now
27:31
Speaker 1: your firm, you have two athletes. We continue to have
27:34
Speaker 1: talked about, how do you recruit future athletes? Are I know,
27:37
Speaker 1: first of all, you can't reveal certain things on this show,
27:40
Speaker 1: but how you go about recruiting the next Damien dots
27:43
Speaker 1: the next deeron Fox? Right, Well, I said, I want
27:48
Speaker 1: to leave mother two guys out as well. I have
27:50
Speaker 1: two guys that are currently in the NBA, Fox and Dotson.
27:52
Speaker 1: I have one former NBA player who spent four years
27:56
Speaker 1: in the NBA, Eric Morland. He actually want to ring
27:58
Speaker 1: with the Toronto Raptors. He's currently playing in China. And
28:02
Speaker 1: then I also represent josh niebo who's a rookie who
28:05
Speaker 1: he decided not to try to NBA al the G
28:07
Speaker 1: League round. He's playing in Israel right now. So I
28:10
Speaker 1: have two guys playing international and two guys that are
28:12
Speaker 1: currently in the NBA. And how got barb recruiting? It's
28:15
Speaker 1: all about relationships, man. I don't do a lot of
28:17
Speaker 1: time races, and I don't d M random guys like hey, hey,
28:20
Speaker 1: what's what's your name. I have a lot of relationships
28:24
Speaker 1: built all over the country through ANYU coaches and high
28:28
Speaker 1: school coaches, college coach, and I just reach out to
28:31
Speaker 1: my contacts. I kind of checked the board and see
28:33
Speaker 1: who would be a good fit, and then I, you know,
28:35
Speaker 1: I reach out to the necessary people, you know, and
28:38
Speaker 1: I've heard about the European, the China, the Israel. Let's
28:42
Speaker 1: talk about that, because that's that's that's a that's a
28:44
Speaker 1: it's it's some players that play their entirely their life.
28:47
Speaker 1: In fact, you know, Stephan Marbury went over to China
28:50
Speaker 1: and became the biggest talent that he ever was in
28:53
Speaker 1: the US. So let's talk about before we wrap up.
28:56
Speaker 1: I don't want to You have the G legal course
28:59
Speaker 1: that's tied to the b A, and the NBA is
29:00
Speaker 1: also saying they are allowed veterans to come into the NBA.
29:04
Speaker 1: The G League this year, something they weren't doing in
29:06
Speaker 1: the past. And so now let's talk about going overseas,
29:10
Speaker 1: the benefits of going overseas, and also it's not being
29:13
Speaker 1: like a death kill to your career. Well, going over seas,
29:19
Speaker 1: you gotta make a conscious charts was like, man, I'm
29:21
Speaker 1: not chasing the NBA dream no more. If it happens,
29:24
Speaker 1: it happens. But now I want to make money and
29:26
Speaker 1: I'm trying to feed my family. So the G League
29:28
Speaker 1: is for guys that's still chasing the NBA dream because
29:30
Speaker 1: you're getting paying minimum money. But it's like, man, I
29:33
Speaker 1: wants to work from the NBA, I'm gonna keep chasing it.
29:35
Speaker 1: I tell young guys that's kind of on the edge
29:38
Speaker 1: and give yourself a chance. Go to G League for
29:40
Speaker 1: two or three years while you're still young. Tree. After
29:44
Speaker 1: two or three years, you gotta do, you know, you
29:46
Speaker 1: gotta make a business decision and go ahead and you know,
29:49
Speaker 1: try to build a financial future for you and your family.
29:52
Speaker 1: And so that's what Eric Morland did. He he played
29:56
Speaker 1: in the inn bed for four or five years, he
29:58
Speaker 1: won a championship and now he he's making you know,
30:01
Speaker 1: last year he made seven figures in China. This year
30:03
Speaker 1: he's making high six figures. So he's doing really well
30:06
Speaker 1: for himself. And that's really what it's all about, you know,
30:09
Speaker 1: in the end, it's about uh, you know you let's
30:12
Speaker 1: let's let's let's move back the NBA name. It's a business.
30:16
Speaker 1: It's like I, you know, I have a job. You
30:19
Speaker 1: have a job, Okay, the NBA playing basketball, that's your skill.
30:23
Speaker 1: You know. Some people are engineers, some people are artists,
30:26
Speaker 1: some people are teaching, some people are doctors. They played
30:29
Speaker 1: basketball for a living. So child at Israel gives them
30:34
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do what they are skilled best to do,
30:38
Speaker 1: to play basketball, put the ball in the hole. So
30:41
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about right now. It's the business side.
30:44
Speaker 1: And don't get caught up into if I don't make
30:47
Speaker 1: an NBA man, what I'm gonna do? Well, you do
30:50
Speaker 1: a lot. You can go overseas and make a profitable living.
30:53
Speaker 1: Especially and then when you look at the w n
30:55
Speaker 1: b A the women over there, they make more money
30:58
Speaker 1: in the European leagues than they make in the w
31:00
Speaker 1: NBA league. And so and what did you say earlier?
31:03
Speaker 1: You said you play at the parks and funding how
31:04
Speaker 1: much did you get paid to do that? I was
31:06
Speaker 1: all part free exactly. Y'all be at home playing for
31:10
Speaker 1: free anyway, So don't get it twisted like this is
31:13
Speaker 1: a great living and wake up and play basketball every day.
31:16
Speaker 1: And that's why I would be at the why I'm
31:17
Speaker 1: saying the local Boys and Girls club playing for free anyway,
31:19
Speaker 1: Because you love the game. That's why I wanted to
31:21
Speaker 1: get it. You're getting paid to do something that you love.
31:24
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to bring you on the show
31:25
Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, we we we
31:27
Speaker 1: we know about the rich Paul's out there and the
31:29
Speaker 1: other agencies out there, but I've've been first of all,
31:32
Speaker 1: you in Houston. I wanted to shine light on you
31:34
Speaker 1: being in Houston and plus your real dude. I did
31:36
Speaker 1: my background on used to Richard. They said, it's good Chris.
31:39
Speaker 1: He keeps it real. You know, he is who he
31:41
Speaker 1: is and uh and and and he's been fortunate and
31:44
Speaker 1: blessed to be attached to very talented guys who's playing
31:47
Speaker 1: in the NBA. But like I said, I only brought
31:49
Speaker 1: up Damien's you know, Damien's name and Daron's name because
31:53
Speaker 1: it was part of your bio that was sent over
31:55
Speaker 1: to me. The most fascinating part of your relationship all
31:58
Speaker 1: the two players that are playing in China and playing
32:00
Speaker 1: in Israel, because it goes back to the business side
32:03
Speaker 1: of the game, business side of the industry. You know,
32:05
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant's dad, Kobere born in Italy. It really born
32:08
Speaker 1: in Italy because his dad was playing in Italy. And
32:11
Speaker 1: so this is not something short term going overseas. It's
32:14
Speaker 1: not a negative spirit. A lot of players are bypassing
32:18
Speaker 1: high school and playing in Australia playing overseas instead of
32:22
Speaker 1: saying I'm going to a G league, I'm gonna give
32:24
Speaker 1: up about one year in college. I'm gonna play with
32:26
Speaker 1: some grown men. And that's what it's all about. So
32:29
Speaker 1: what's the future of Family First Sports Firm? My friend,
32:33
Speaker 1: everybody I was asking me that, I'm like, be honest,
32:35
Speaker 1: wherever God leaves me man, Um, I'm taking it day
32:38
Speaker 1: by day, claiming by clients. UM. I have a lot
32:40
Speaker 1: of new exciting things that you can't announced yet, but
32:43
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be, you know, coming pretty soon from
32:45
Speaker 1: the groundbacking things that I don't think no other agency
32:47
Speaker 1: has that are is doing. So I'm always thinking outside
32:50
Speaker 1: of the box, and I was thinking, how can that
32:52
Speaker 1: be different? You know what the whole industry is going, right,
32:55
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I'm going to left makes
32:56
Speaker 1: I'm going to opposite way. Yeah, you know, every every
33:00
Speaker 1: player is not gonna be for family first. This is
33:02
Speaker 1: for people who are believe in their step and who
33:04
Speaker 1: are confident and who about empowerment. And you know, you
33:08
Speaker 1: know some people want the comfort of man, I'm going
33:10
Speaker 1: to CIA or Rock Nation. You know they got the
33:12
Speaker 1: big name. There's some people that's like, man, you know,
33:14
Speaker 1: I want to be groundbreaking. I want to be different.
33:17
Speaker 1: I want to go on a roster where you know,
33:19
Speaker 1: I'm just a name on the on the wall, I'm
33:21
Speaker 1: one of for the climates. You know. I want to
33:23
Speaker 1: go someone to get individualized attention and where I'm gonna
33:25
Speaker 1: be an important key peace. Well, I like what you
33:28
Speaker 1: said individualized attention because that's what you get when you
33:32
Speaker 1: go to these big agents and you don't get apologize,
33:34
Speaker 1: you don't get you can be uh forgotten peace. If
33:38
Speaker 1: you don't get the contract, they won't nurture your next step.
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