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Another Harris Media Fail on NBC · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There are moments in campaigns where not even data will
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Speaker 1: change your mind. When it comes to the issue of momentum,
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Speaker 1: then you get data, and data starts to change your
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Speaker 1: mind quickly.
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Speaker 2: Now, let me explain what I mean by this fully
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Speaker 2: so you understand.
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and her campaign had had a feeling coming
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Speaker 1: out of.
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Speaker 2: The convention that they were surging.
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Speaker 1: Before there were polls saying that she was surging, they
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Speaker 1: had a feeling that their campaign was doing well because
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Speaker 1: of the amount of money that was coming in, raising
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Speaker 1: a billion dollars. As a billion dollars, folks like, that's
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. Kama Harris had the money flowing,
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Speaker 1: She had Hollywood behind her, she had all of the
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Speaker 1: media behind her. In a coronation, the plan to overthrow
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden worked flawlessly.
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Speaker 2: All of the big.
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Speaker 1: Five Democrat mafia families united and went against Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: and forced him out, and they got his second chance.
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Speaker 1: They were excited because they knew they were going to
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Speaker 1: lose with Joe Biden. So when the Barack Obama family,
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Speaker 1: that's mafia family number one political mafia, the Clinton family
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Speaker 1: number two, Pelosi family number three, Schumer family number four,
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Speaker 1: and King Jeffries and his team number five. Those are
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Speaker 1: the big five families of the Democratic Party and the
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Speaker 1: Democratic mafia that got together and they forced him out.
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Speaker 1: And then they said, all right, Harris, Now you could
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Speaker 1: count Harris as another family because obviously behind the scenes
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Speaker 1: she was doing everything she could to get the nomination.
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Speaker 2: So throw that one in there if you want to.
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Speaker 1: And once they all went against him, he had no
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Speaker 1: choice but to do what he did, which was a
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Speaker 1: step aside. Harris got it, bam, and then you felt
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Speaker 1: like the race completely reset, and it was a race
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Speaker 1: the Democrats knew they were going to lose if it
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Speaker 1: was Biden against Trump, and that's why they had their
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Speaker 1: coup attempt. They wanted a second chance. Now she was
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Speaker 1: the only one that gave them a real second chance,
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Speaker 1: So no one was going to get to vote for
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Speaker 1: They were just install her as the nominee. They were
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Speaker 1: going to walk into a convention, the media was going
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Speaker 1: to say She's the best thing since sliced bread, and bam,
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Speaker 1: there it is. We have a new campaign and everything reset.
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Speaker 1: I witnessed this from a multiple levels, looking at local races,
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Speaker 1: state races, looking at congressional races, where people that were winning.
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Speaker 1: Conservative candidates that were winning all of a sudden went
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Speaker 1: back to even with whoever they were running against, start
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Speaker 1: tightened up significantly. Their lead of six or seven points
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Speaker 1: dripped down to two or three points because of the
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Speaker 1: Harris searge.
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Speaker 2: You then had polls that proved that this was a
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Speaker 2: new race.
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Speaker 1: Several days later after she announced, when people got excited
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Speaker 1: and the Harris campaign was like, all right, here's our
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Speaker 1: plan for running this campaign. We're gonna run it from
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's basement. I'm not really kidding when I say that.
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Speaker 1: It was gonna be the same strategy. We're gonna buy
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Speaker 1: this election. We're gonna buy it through ads. The media
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Speaker 1: is gonna support us, The media is gonna love us.
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Speaker 1: The media is gonna give us billions of dollars in
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Speaker 1: in kind donations by talking about how amazing.
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is. And that is exactly what happened.
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Speaker 1: The same media that told you they didn't like her, right,
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Speaker 1: the same media that said we just can't stand Kamala Harris,
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Speaker 1: the same media that destroyed her in the primary and
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Speaker 1: the presidential not that long ago, they all said, yep,
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Speaker 1: we understand our goal. We understand what we need to do.
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Speaker 1: We understand it. Let's do it like we got it.
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Speaker 1: We understand it, let's go. And that's what happened. That's
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Speaker 1: exactly how this went down. They jumped on on board
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Speaker 1: and they got in and it was just let's go
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Speaker 1: to the finish line with a simple campaign strategy of
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Speaker 1: keep Harris hidden and we'll be good. Then momentum started
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Speaker 1: to change again, and you could feel it in the
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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, actually in the last month, I
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Speaker 1: would say, where this strategy stopped working. The strategy started
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Speaker 1: to disappear. People wanted to ask questions, and Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: was doing interviews everywhere, and other Republicans running for office,
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Speaker 1: for Senate, for governor, for statewide stuff.
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Speaker 2: We're all pounding Harris.
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Speaker 1: And then she said some things that backfired and really
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Speaker 1: started to change the race. I will go back and
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Speaker 1: pinpoint the day I think the race completely changed and
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Speaker 1: the basement strategy fell apart was when she said she
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Speaker 1: was going to do price controls on the This is communism.
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Speaker 1: Everywhere they've tried price controls, it has been a complete
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Speaker 1: and utter disaster. And even then there were some in
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and also in the media, They're like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work, like this is this is not
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Speaker 1: going to work.
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Speaker 2: This is going to be a disaster.
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Speaker 1: And so then there started to be questions that were
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Speaker 1: asked of Harris, and the problem was Harris couldn't answer
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Speaker 1: the questions. Harris had no idea, had no clue how
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Speaker 1: to answer the questions because what she just described was
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Speaker 1: straight up communism. Price controls were a disaster. They didn't
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Speaker 1: know how to defend it. And that's when then the
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Speaker 1: media started asking her even more questions. Not at a
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Speaker 1: national level yet, it was on a local level, and
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Speaker 1: it was in areas like Pennsylvania, it was Michigan, it
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Speaker 1: was in It was these local channels that started to
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Speaker 1: do and ask questions about their communities. We then started
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Speaker 1: to see the other problem that came from that, which
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Speaker 1: was housing. There's a housing problem right now, and there
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Speaker 1: are people that cannot afford housing because they're having to
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Speaker 1: compete with millions and millions and millions of illegal immigrants,
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Speaker 1: and those illegal immigrants are driving up the prices.
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Speaker 2: We're seeing violent crime.
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Speaker 1: That has exploded in cities like New York City and others,
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Speaker 1: and so these local issues started to get into the election.
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Speaker 2: That was another problem. And so what did she do.
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Speaker 1: She came out she says, Okay, I'm going to fix
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Speaker 1: that problem with another radical plan that is just insane.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to give everybody what twenty grand, twenty five thousand,
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Speaker 1: all right, so you can get your first new house.
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Speaker 1: And then the economists are like, if you just say
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Speaker 1: everybody gets twenty five thousand, it doesn't make housing more
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Speaker 1: affordable for first time home buyers. Everybody's just going to
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Speaker 1: jack the price their home up twenty five grand because
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Speaker 1: they know there's twenty five grand at the.
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Speaker 2: Base that you're going to get from the government.
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Speaker 1: The other problem was no one knew exactly, no one
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Speaker 1: So then they went to this new strategy, and this
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Speaker 1: happened about a week and a half two weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: They're like, all right, let's do a bunch of interviews.
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Speaker 1: We'll do a bunch of interviews and try to reset
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Speaker 1: this thing and everybody's going to like us again, and
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Speaker 1: we'll go do a bunch of friendlies.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly what they decided to do.
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Speaker 1: The problem was again the timing, because when you have
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Speaker 1: a campaign which is to hide the candidate, it is
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Speaker 1: a problem and that's what they were doing, was hiding
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Speaker 1: the candidate. And so they went on all of these
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Speaker 1: late night comedy shows, and they went on all these
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Speaker 1: friendly shows like The View, where they didn't really ask
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Speaker 1: her any tough questions at all. They were it was
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Speaker 1: all propaganda, this government propaganda. It was sponsored media propaganda.
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Speaker 1: And then when they did ask her some questions that
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Speaker 1: actually weren't that hard to answer, she couldn't answer those.
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Speaker 1: And that is when I think this race genuinely started
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Speaker 1: to change in a big way where people are like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I remember this Kamala Harris from back in the day.
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Speaker 1: I don't like her. I remember this Kamala Harris from
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Speaker 1: when she ran for present. I don't like her at all.
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Speaker 1: I don't think she's that smart. I don't think she
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Speaker 1: knows how to fix my problems. I don't think she's listening.
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Speaker 1: And then there was the hey, I didn't even get
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Speaker 1: a chance to vote for her, for goodness sakes, like
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Speaker 1: don't I don't like that either. And you put all
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Speaker 1: of this together with interviews that aren't hard, interviews that
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Speaker 1: are fake, interviews that are with people that are just
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Speaker 1: giving her accolade after accolade on TV and then saying
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Speaker 1: orange Man's bad Orangeman's bad, You're amazing. And then that's
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Speaker 1: when this I think election started to genuinely change in
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Speaker 1: a very big way, which means we now get to
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Speaker 1: her interview. She has done a sit down interview with
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Speaker 1: NBC News Vice President was interviewed by Hallie Jackson of
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Speaker 1: NBC News. The interview was conducted in DC, and the
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Speaker 1: interview was supposed to be more of a hard hitting,
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Speaker 1: real interview.
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Speaker 2: Now it's NBC News. They're biased. We all know how
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Speaker 2: biased they are.
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Speaker 1: If you've ever watched their newscasts or when they hosted,
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Speaker 1: you know how biased they are, Like they're hardcore bias.
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Speaker 1: But the interview was done to be more of a
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Speaker 1: journalistic interview, you could tell, and NBC News knew that,
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Speaker 1: and the interview was very different than what we saw
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Speaker 1: on all these other shows.
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Speaker 2: It did not go well for Harris.
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Speaker 1: And it's because she's trying to defend policies that are
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Speaker 1: indefensible and that she also just doesn't really understand. So
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Speaker 1: Harris sits down with NBC News and this is supposed
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Speaker 1: to and they build it as a serious journalistic interview
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Speaker 1: right one on one Vice presidential president Kama Harris one
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Speaker 1: on one with Hallie Jackson two weeks before election day,
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Speaker 1: Breaking News NBC News don Uta dam right, Like they're
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Speaker 1: pitching this as a real interview.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Part of me is like, no, it's not, because we
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Speaker 1: found out, for example, that the questions at her town
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Speaker 1: hall just hours earlier, were all the questions were predetermined
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Speaker 1: and pre screened that came out. So it's again, she
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Speaker 1: doesn't actually do real events. Everything is staged. Nothing is
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Speaker 1: real with Harris. Everything is staged and she has protected.
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Speaker 1: Everything is done in a way that is to make
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Speaker 1: sure she looks good. Now this interview, and I'm not
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Speaker 1: kidding when I say this, we don't know what was
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Speaker 1: staged and what's real, right, I mean, we saw it
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Speaker 1: the other day when they changed her answer in another interview.
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Speaker 1: We played it for you. She gave a bad answer.
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Speaker 1: Her answer to a question was so bad that the
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Speaker 1: network then decided to change her answer on sixty minutes.
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Speaker 1: It was so bad that they even had to acknowledge
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Speaker 1: that they did that at sixty minutes.
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Speaker 2: That didn't go over well at all.
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Speaker 1: So when you look at what we've seen thus far,
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Speaker 1: it's pretty darn clear I'd actually say it's extremely clear
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Speaker 1: that the media is still in the tank for her,
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Speaker 1: but they're also noticing now that things are changing. And
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Speaker 1: when things start to change, people start hedging their bets
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Speaker 1: because they don't want to look like their total hacks.
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Speaker 1: So let's play and notice the tone difference in this
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Speaker 1: interview with NBC News, very different than what we've seen
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Speaker 1: in the past.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Madam Vice President for your time.
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Speaker 4: I'll get you with you.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: We were just talking.
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Speaker 3: About the campaign trail yesterday and these key russ Belt
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Speaker 3: battlegrounds as they call them, talking with undecided voters, and
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Speaker 3: we're reaching out that olive branch to these voters.
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Speaker 4: You want to bring them on board for them.
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Speaker 3: For so many voters, we know that a huge issue
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Speaker 3: for them is the economy. It's the cost of living.
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Speaker 3: I've been on the campaign trail. I hear that in
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Speaker 3: the field again and again. You look at some of
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Speaker 3: the numbers on this and our new NBC News poll
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Speaker 3: shows that more voters think that the Biden administration policies
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Speaker 3: have hurt them rather than help them. And I wonder
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Speaker 3: are the last four years an obstacle to you in
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Speaker 3: this race?
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Speaker 1: By the way that is an actual journalistic question.
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Speaker 2: You shouldn't be impressed by it.
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Speaker 1: But that is not a question that NBC News would
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Speaker 1: have asked her two weeks ago. It's just not, certainly,
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Speaker 1: not three weeks ago or a month ago, certainly not
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Speaker 1: coming out of the convention. They basically said, your economic
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Speaker 1: policy is a disaster. Okay, your economic policy is a
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Speaker 1: hurdle for you because what you and Joe Biden have done.
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Speaker 1: And this is a question that is coming clearly from
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Speaker 1: voters who are not voting for her.
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Speaker 2: Early voting numbers are extremely high right now. That's also
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Speaker 2: a big deal.
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Speaker 1: And when you look at these early voting numbers, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of conservatives that are going out and voting early,
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Speaker 1: which we also haven't seen before, not the way we're
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Speaker 1: seeing them this time.
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Speaker 2: That is a trend that you.
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Speaker 1: Can read into two weeks out when early voting's going on.
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Speaker 1: So they just said to her, hey, like, your last
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Speaker 1: four years are a real problem, And listen to Harris's response.
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Speaker 5: Here's how I look at it.
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Speaker 6: First of all, let me be very clear, mine will
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Speaker 6: not be a continuation of the Biden administration. I bring
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Speaker 6: my own experiences, my own ideas to it.
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Speaker 1: Pause there mine will not be a continuation of the
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Speaker 1: Biden administration. This is what you do when you are
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Speaker 1: desperate to distance yourself from your record. Al Gore, by
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Speaker 1: the way, did the exact same thing when he was running.
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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton had been in office for eight years. There
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Speaker 1: are a lot of people that were tired of Bill Clinton.
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Speaker 1: They were tired of his policies, they were tired of
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Speaker 1: what he was, what he had done, and so Al
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Speaker 1: Gore actually ran away from Bill Clinton. Didn't use Bill
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Speaker 1: Clinton during his campaign virtually at all. They hid him
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Speaker 1: and he kept saying things just like this, like, well,
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Speaker 1: I'm my own man, like dude, you got an eight
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Speaker 1: year record, bro, And the voters didn't buy it then. Now,
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Speaker 1: I think voters then were a lot smarter than they
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Speaker 1: are now. Back in you know, two thousand, I think
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Speaker 1: it was very different in nineteen ninety nine during that campaign,
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Speaker 1: but it was it was a clear moment where he
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Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to be associated with you.
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Speaker 1: I don't want my career to be connected to yours.
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Speaker 1: And this is exactly what Ama Harris just said. It
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Speaker 1: will not be a continuation. The reason why this isn't
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Speaker 1: going to sit well with voters. And the reason why
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Speaker 1: I think this was a fatal flaw for her to
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Speaker 1: do it this way is because a month ago, right
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Speaker 1: six weeks ago, she was campaigning on the continuation of
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Speaker 1: what they had done and telling people how great what
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Speaker 1: they had done as a team was for this country.
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Speaker 1: Because that's when Joe Biden was at the top of
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Speaker 1: the ticket. When and when Joe Biden was at the
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Speaker 1: top of the ticket, folks, she.
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Speaker 2: Was the vice president of Kenneth.
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Speaker 1: She was doing rallies and events and interviews telling you
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Speaker 1: that Bidenomics was awesome, that everything was great, that everything
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Speaker 1: was working phenomenally well.
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Speaker 2: And now she just says just you know, kind of flippingly.
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Speaker 2: Oh well.
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Speaker 1: I want to be clear my administration will not be
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Speaker 1: a continuation of Joe Biden.
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Speaker 6: And it has informed a number of my areas of focus,
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Speaker 6: most of which are on to your point, lowering costs.
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Speaker 6: I am traveling the country. I am very clear costs
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Speaker 6: the groceries still too high, the voters.
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Speaker 5: Not I know it.
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Speaker 6: So part of my plan includes what we need to
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Speaker 6: do to bring down the price of groceries, including the
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Speaker 6: work I will do dealing with price gouging, something I
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Speaker 6: dealt with when I was Attorney General, something I will
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Speaker 6: deal with going forward, cost of housing. You know, I'm
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Speaker 6: speaking with people of every background, in every area of
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Speaker 6: the country, of every age, and you know, the idea
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Speaker 6: of the American dream was something that previous generations could
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Speaker 6: count on, not as much anymore.
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Speaker 1: So you listened to this answer that she just gave.
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Speaker 1: And there's two ways to look at this. One is
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Speaker 1: to say, okay, so let's be clear. You're basically admitting
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Speaker 1: that what you did and advocated and supported for the
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Speaker 1: last four years is worthless and hurt Americans.
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Speaker 2: It's a disaster.
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Speaker 1: You really, really, really hurt Americans by doing what you
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Speaker 1: did over the last four years, and you were putting
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Speaker 1: your own political agenda ahead of the American people. You
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Speaker 1: knew your policies were bad. You knew your policies were
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Speaker 1: a disaster. You knew that Americans were suffering, but you
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Speaker 1: didn't want to.
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Speaker 2: I guess stand up.
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Speaker 1: To Joe Biden if you believe this logic, and you
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Speaker 1: knew that if you guys got reelected just a month ago,
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Speaker 1: two months ago, that you were going to have another
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Speaker 1: another four years of disasters because she's telling you now, hey,
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Speaker 1: my policies are different than than Joe Biden, and my
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Speaker 1: agenda is going to be different. So you got to
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Speaker 1: look at it one of two ways here. Either she's
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Speaker 1: lying to you now or she knew she was hurting
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Speaker 1: you and screwing you the American people over the last
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Speaker 1: four years and to hold on to power right as
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Speaker 1: a VP, she was willing to do it to you
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Speaker 1: again for another four years under Joe Biden if they
19:56
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had the coup on. Biden's not a great
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Speaker 1: closing argument to the American people. Can we all agree
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Speaker 1: on that? Like, that's a disaster. That is a total disaster.
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Speaker 1: I also want to just say one other thing about
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Speaker 1: what she just said about her economic plan.
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Speaker 2: So number one, she says, I am not a continuation
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Speaker 2: of Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: Check that box right, even though there's like fifty questions
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Speaker 1: that arise from her saying that, like, well, hold on,
22:03
Speaker 1: like six weeks ago, you were campaigning you guys are
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Speaker 1: the best things in Slice Spread Together and bionomics or
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Speaker 1: We're awesome. Now you're saying you're not going to do
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Speaker 1: any of that, Like, how do you do that? How
22:13
Speaker 1: do you switch that up? How'd you screw Americans the
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Speaker 1: last four years knowing that what you were doing was
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Speaker 1: hurting them, now claiming you're going to fix it. Then
22:19
Speaker 1: she says, hey, I'm I'm going to fix the problems
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Speaker 1: with price gouging. Okay, how are you going to do that?
22:24
Speaker 1: Price controls? Obviously, so you're going to do price controls? Yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: so that's communism, right, Like is that a good answer?
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Speaker 2: Now?
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Speaker 1: NBC knows that what she's what she's forcing on or
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Speaker 1: trying to do is communism, like they know it. They're
22:40
Speaker 1: not stupid. And then she says affordable housing. And the
22:43
Speaker 1: immediate follow up question from NBC News when she says
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Speaker 1: she's going to do this, you know mandates on affordable
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Speaker 1: housing is We'll hold on a second.
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Speaker 2: Why do you let all these legal immigrants?
22:51
Speaker 1: And that made the prices skyrocket? Now let's see if
22:53
Speaker 1: they asked that question.
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Speaker 6: Listen, carefully bringing down the cost of housing by doing
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Speaker 6: what I have done in my career, that perhaps is
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Speaker 6: a different approach, which is really actively working with a
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Speaker 6: private sector, for example, homebuilders, to create incentives for them
23:08
Speaker 6: to build millions of new homes in housing units, so
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Speaker 6: we can bring down the cost, including what I will
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Speaker 6: do to give people a twenty five thousand dollars down
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Speaker 6: payment assistance if they are a first time home buyer.
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Speaker 6: So these are examples. The example is what I'm going
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Speaker 6: to do to expand the child tax credit because listen,
23:25
Speaker 6: young parents in particular, they need help. They have a
23:28
Speaker 6: natural desire to parent their children well, but not always
23:30
Speaker 6: the resources six thousand extra dollars during the first year
23:33
Speaker 6: of their child's life can help them buy a crib,
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Speaker 6: or a car seat, or clothes, the things that are
23:38
Speaker 6: so crucial to that phase of their child's development. So
23:41
Speaker 6: my plans and my policies are really directed at exactly
23:45
Speaker 6: your point, doing what we must do to bring down
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Speaker 6: the cost of living, but also to help people not just.
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Speaker 5: Get by, but get ahead.
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Speaker 6: And I'm proud to report to you that economists from
23:56
Speaker 6: Nobel Laureates to Goldman's Acts have reviewed Mayak.
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Speaker 5: Plan versus Donald Trump's and.
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Speaker 6: In comparison have found that my plans will strengthen American's economy.
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Speaker 6: His plans will weake in America's economy.
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Speaker 1: And what, by the way, she just mentioned Goldman Sachs again,
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Speaker 1: that is a lie. Goldman Sachs has come out made
24:17
Speaker 1: it very clear that's not what they said. They did
24:19
Speaker 1: not say that her plan was going to strengthen the economy. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And she's still using that plan, by the way, she
24:25
Speaker 1: still keeps using that saying, oh, this is what I believe,
24:27
Speaker 1: this is what it is. That's what is like, that's
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Speaker 1: not what they're That's not what Goldman Sachs said at all.
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Speaker 1: You can go and we talked about in the show
24:35
Speaker 1: before and I read for you what Goldman Sachs response was.
24:38
Speaker 1: So they're still using that line, that propaganda. And she
24:43
Speaker 1: also then said something else about the tax credits, like
24:46
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this, I'm gonna just this. Then,
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Speaker 1: why didn't you do it over the last three and
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Speaker 1: a half years. It's a it's a really fair question, Okay,
24:53
Speaker 1: why didn't you do it over the last three and
24:54
Speaker 1: a half years? And her answer is one of two options.
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Speaker 1: Either I'm lying to you now and there's no reason right, like,
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Speaker 1: there's no re like, I'm lying to you now and
25:06
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this to get elected. That's option number one, okay,
25:10
Speaker 1: Or there's option number two, which is she knew she
25:14
Speaker 1: was screwing you over the last several years, and she
25:17
Speaker 1: was fine doing it to hold on to power.
25:19
Speaker 2: So she put.
25:20
Speaker 1: Power and prestige over the American people that she knew
25:25
Speaker 1: that she was hurting. You got to pick, but you
25:29
Speaker 1: can't have it both ways. Now, there's a lot of
25:32
Speaker 1: follow up questions and NBC News could.
25:34
Speaker 2: Give her on this because there's.
25:37
Speaker 1: Where they have worked because it's a disaster and this
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Speaker 1: first time home buyer credit and that all the other
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Speaker 1: tax breaks and everything else that she was against. But
25:44
Speaker 1: now she's four So you got to decide what is it?
25:46
Speaker 1: Are you pandering or not listen?
25:48
Speaker 3: Why do you think that's not landing with voters? One
25:50
Speaker 3: of the umbers, it's the opposite. Former President Trump leads
25:53
Speaker 3: you on this issue.
25:54
Speaker 5: Well, when I'm out, this is why I'm by.
25:56
Speaker 1: The way, that follow up question I actually give, Like
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Speaker 1: I hate that I'm having to say I give correct
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Speaker 1: nby Seniors, But that was a journalistic answer like that,
26:04
Speaker 1: that actually was a decent journalistic answer.
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Speaker 2: A response, well, why do you think this isn't landing
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Speaker 2: with the American people? Because they don't trust you on
26:14
Speaker 2: these issues.
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Speaker 1: They trust Trump, he's leading on the economy, and I
26:18
Speaker 1: can tell you exactly why, because I think the majority
26:20
Speaker 1: of the American people understand right now that she's lying
26:22
Speaker 1: to you. And the Democratic Party, by the way, they
26:25
Speaker 1: lied to you last election. They lied to you early
26:27
Speaker 1: in this cycle, and they're like, oh, if you vote
26:28
Speaker 1: for us, we're going to pay off all your student
26:30
Speaker 1: loan debt, so I think, and when it didn't happen,
26:34
Speaker 1: I think then what happened.
26:35
Speaker 2: Was was something also very interesting.
26:39
Speaker 1: The American people are like, Okay, you lied to us
26:41
Speaker 1: last time, and we didn't get all of our college
26:46
Speaker 1: paid off like you claimed you were going to do
26:47
Speaker 1: if we voted for you. Why do I believe you're
26:49
Speaker 1: going to send me twenty five thousand dollars for a
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Speaker 1: new house for a first time buyer. And by the way,
26:55
Speaker 1: that also really stinks for others that are struggling right now.
26:58
Speaker 2: Maybe you bought a really small, tiny house or house
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Speaker 2: that that you that you.
27:02
Speaker 1: Barely could afford, and now you want to get a
27:04
Speaker 1: different house, and they're saying, sorry, your chance is up.
27:06
Speaker 2: You already you lost your twenty five k.
27:10
Speaker 1: Like that, that doesn't make a lot of Americans very happy.
27:13
Speaker 1: Because like, well, that doesn't do me any good. I mean,
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Speaker 1: most voters, I'd have to go to the exact stats,
27:19
Speaker 1: but a lot of voters, let me put it that way,
27:20
Speaker 1: to be careful, A lot of voters have already bought
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Speaker 1: their first their first house at some point in their life.
27:27
Speaker 1: And they may have bought a house and sold it
27:29
Speaker 1: and now they're running again. But I mean this twenty
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Speaker 1: five thousand, your your sol It's the same way that
27:35
Speaker 1: there was a big backfire on this we're going to
27:36
Speaker 1: pay off your college loans by people that actually had
27:39
Speaker 1: paid off their college loans. There was a lot of
27:43
Speaker 1: Americans that you actually made extremely angry when you said
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Speaker 1: we're going to pay off college loans because they were
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Speaker 1: responsible and they had paid off their college loans, and
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Speaker 1: you were rewarding many people that were irresponsible.
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Speaker 2: I would be one of those. My wife would be
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Speaker 2: a second one.
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Speaker 1: We had debt when we got married, and we had
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Speaker 1: debt that needed that we could have just kicked down
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Speaker 1: the down the road. We'd still have I don't know,
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars of student loan debt. If we
28:15
Speaker 1: would have just paid the minimum, paid the minimum, paid
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Speaker 1: the minimum, we made a conscientious effort and to work
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Speaker 1: our tails off early on in our marriage to pay
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Speaker 1: off our student loan debt.
28:28
Speaker 2: That's what we did.
28:30
Speaker 1: And we didn't buy the nice cars, we didn't do
28:33
Speaker 1: the big trips. We said no to a lot of
28:36
Speaker 1: things that other people said yes to because we wanted
28:39
Speaker 1: to be debt free, and we worked our tails off
28:41
Speaker 1: to pay off that student loan debt. And so now
28:44
Speaker 1: you're like, hold on a second, I was responsible. I
28:47
Speaker 1: said no to things while others said yes to things,
28:53
Speaker 1: and they were irresponsible, and we were responsible, and now
28:56
Speaker 1: you're going to reward that irresponsibility to buy votes. And
28:59
Speaker 1: the answer was yes, exactly what they did, and that's
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Speaker 1: what they're doing right now. But then there's the other
29:03
Speaker 1: problem with the economists who have come out and made
29:05
Speaker 1: it very clear, very clear. Many economists have come out
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Speaker 1: and said, you're not going to actually lower the price
29:13
Speaker 1: of housing it. If you do this twenty five thousand
29:15
Speaker 1: dollar credit, it's just going to immediately be absorbed by
29:17
Speaker 1: the marketplace. So if you buy a house it's two
29:21
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, guess what it's gonna be two hundred thousand,
29:23
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five thousand, like it's just gonna
29:25
Speaker 1: immediately switch and the money is going to immediately disappear.
29:30
Speaker 2: That's what's gonna happen.
29:33
Speaker 1: And the economy, the housing market is not stupid. They're
29:38
Speaker 1: gonna know what this is. They're gonna know what's happening.
29:41
Speaker 1: They're gonna know what's going on here. Keep listening.
29:46
Speaker 5: Going out to Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and.
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Speaker 4: Michigan.
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Speaker 6: In Michigan, excuse me, just got in late this morning, actually,
29:55
Speaker 6: but going to three states yesterday, and I'm going to
29:57
Speaker 6: continue being on the road. I have to earn the
30:00
Speaker 6: the vote, and it means sharing with folks my plan,
30:03
Speaker 6: but also offering them what objective analysts have shown to
30:07
Speaker 6: be the contrast between me and Donald Trump.
30:10
Speaker 5: My plans are focused.
30:12
Speaker 6: On working people, the middle class, and what we must
30:15
Speaker 6: do to strengthen hardworking people to be able to do
30:18
Speaker 6: what they dream and aspire to be able to do.
30:20
Speaker 6: His plans are about giving tax cuts, massive tax cuts
30:24
Speaker 6: to billionaires and big corporations. His so called plan for
30:27
Speaker 6: the economy, economists have estimated will exasperate inflation and invite
30:34
Speaker 6: a recession by the middle of next year. So there's
30:36
Speaker 6: a huge difference between he and I let me ask.
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Speaker 3: You about something that you said when you're running for
30:40
Speaker 3: president the last time.
30:41
Speaker 1: Let me just let me just wrap this up on
30:42
Speaker 1: this point. She just said a bunch of things are
30:45
Speaker 1: just not true. She just said that, Hey, well, if
30:48
Speaker 1: you if you like Donald Trump, it's all doom and
30:50
Speaker 1: gloom and you're going to have a full on recession
30:53
Speaker 1: if you vote for him, and it's going to be
30:55
Speaker 1: a disaster. That's not what the actual economists have said.
30:58
Speaker 1: By the way, that would happen if Donald Trump's elected.
31:01
Speaker 1: And this goes back to don't you know, don't believe
31:04
Speaker 1: your lying eyes. Your life sucked when Donald Trump was
31:07
Speaker 1: president the last time, and you had no money and
31:10
Speaker 1: you were poor and everything was expensive. That's that's their argument.
31:13
Speaker 1: And it's going to be worse this time if you
31:16
Speaker 1: elect him. That's that's their argument. The American people are
31:20
Speaker 1: not stupid. The last time the American people got to
31:23
Speaker 1: say yes to a lot of things, especially with their kids, okay,
31:28
Speaker 1: and take the trips and spend and and and and
31:31
Speaker 1: have money to spend on extra things, enjoyable things, fun things,
31:35
Speaker 1: was when Donald Trump was president. The last time you
31:38
Speaker 1: went to the grocery store and you weren't super stressed
31:41
Speaker 1: out was when Donald Trump was president. The last time
31:46
Speaker 1: you felt like a house was affordable was when Donald
31:50
Speaker 1: Trump was president.
31:53
Speaker 2: That's just the truth of the situation.
31:57
Speaker 1: It was when Donald Trump was president, and so people
32:02
Speaker 1: remember what their life was like. This is the reason
32:05
Speaker 1: why Kamala Harris is in major trouble with African American
32:08
Speaker 1: voters right now. Ninety plus percent of African American voters
32:15
Speaker 1: supported Barack Obama when he ran. That's incredible, like nine
32:20
Speaker 1: more than nine out of every ten the African American
32:22
Speaker 1: voter said yep, I'm voting for him. The number dropped
32:25
Speaker 1: to eighty seven percent, which is still almost nine out
32:28
Speaker 1: of every ten. Under Joe Biden, She's now down in
32:32
Speaker 1: the seventies. Why is Kamala Harris down in the seventies
32:36
Speaker 1: with African American voters because they believe that she's lying
32:40
Speaker 1: to them, and they also remember how well they were doing.
32:46
Speaker 2: When Donald Trump was president.
32:48
Speaker 1: And so this idea, well, you got to vote for
32:50
Speaker 1: me because I'm black, and if you're black, you got
32:53
Speaker 1: to vote for me because we have to stick together
32:56
Speaker 1: because the color of our skin. Right, if you're a minority,
32:59
Speaker 1: you've got to stick with me because I'm a minority.
33:02
Speaker 1: That's not working this time around, because people are like,
33:04
Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote.
33:06
Speaker 2: At least some are saying, I'm not going to.
33:07
Speaker 1: Vote on skin color and on the issue of race
33:12
Speaker 1: when my family is hurting, I'm not going to do it.
33:19
Speaker 1: Take a listen to this next part of the interview,
33:23
Speaker 1: which is also very interesting to see how Harris deals
33:26
Speaker 1: with this.
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Speaker 4: Around'm back in twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 3: At the time, you said that the elephant in the
33:31
Speaker 3: room was whether the country was ready for a woman and.
33:33
Speaker 4: A woman of color to be president.
33:35
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, as you sit here today,
33:37
Speaker 3: do you think the country.
33:37
Speaker 4: Is ready now for a woman and a woman of
33:39
Speaker 4: color to be president?
33:41
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
33:42
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I am saying that in terms of every
33:49
Speaker 6: walk of life of our country. You know, I think
33:52
Speaker 6: part of what is important in this election is really
33:57
Speaker 6: not only turning the page, but closing the page and
34:00
Speaker 6: the chapter on an era that suggests that Americans are divided.
34:07
Speaker 5: What I know from personal experience.
34:09
Speaker 6: From lived experience, and from my travels even most recently,
34:13
Speaker 6: the vast majority of us have so much more in
34:15
Speaker 6: common than what separates us and what the American people
34:17
Speaker 6: want in their president is a president for all Americans,
34:21
Speaker 6: which is the type and kind of president I pledged
34:24
Speaker 6: to be. This is my life's work. As you know,
34:26
Speaker 6: I started as a prosecutor. I never asked a victim
34:30
Speaker 6: of crime, a witness to crime, are you a Republican
34:32
Speaker 6: or Democrat? The only thing I ever asked them is
34:34
Speaker 6: are you okay? And that's what the American people want
34:37
Speaker 6: to know, regardless of their race, regardless of their gender,
34:40
Speaker 6: or their age, they want to know that they have
34:42
Speaker 6: a president who sees them and understands their needs and
34:46
Speaker 6: focuses on their needs. Understanding we all deserve to have
34:51
Speaker 6: a president who is focused on solutions and not just
34:54
Speaker 6: fanning the flames of division and hate.
34:57
Speaker 3: You've been reluctant to lean into to talk about the
35:00
Speaker 3: historic nature of your candidacy on the campaign trail.
35:02
Speaker 4: Why is that?
35:03
Speaker 5: Well, I'm clearly a woman to point that out to anyone.
35:08
Speaker 6: The point that most people really care about is can
35:12
Speaker 6: you do the job and do you have a plan
35:15
Speaker 6: to actually focus on them? That is why I spend
35:19
Speaker 6: the majority of my time listening and then addressing the concerns,
35:23
Speaker 6: the challenges, the dreams, the ambitions and the aspirations of
35:26
Speaker 6: the American people.
35:27
Speaker 5: They deserve to have a president.
35:28
Speaker 6: Who's focused on them, as opposed to a Donald Trump
35:33
Speaker 6: who's constantly focused on himself.
35:35
Speaker 5: I think that's part.
35:36
Speaker 6: Of why people are exhausted with Donald Trump and his approach,
35:40
Speaker 6: because it's all about himself and his personal grievances and
35:44
Speaker 6: not about the American people, not about how are you
35:46
Speaker 6: going to help families, How are you going to help
35:47
Speaker 6: small businesses? How are you going to strengthen our economy?
35:49
Speaker 6: These are the things I'm focused on. I'm focused on
35:52
Speaker 6: investing in the new industries on which America should lead
35:55
Speaker 6: and be a global leader.
35:57
Speaker 4: I ask because to implement the agenda that you want
35:59
Speaker 4: to implement, you have to win first. You have to
36:00
Speaker 4: win the ross.
36:01
Speaker 3: And right now, there is a big gender gap in
36:02
Speaker 3: this race. Fewer men support you right now than they
36:05
Speaker 3: did President Biden. Some of your allies have suggested there's
36:08
Speaker 3: sexism at play. I wonder do you think there is
36:10
Speaker 3: sexism at play here?
36:11
Speaker 5: Let me just tell you something.
36:13
Speaker 6: You've come to my events and you will see there
36:16
Speaker 6: are men and women at those events, whether it be
36:20
Speaker 6: small events or events with ten thousand people. So the
36:25
Speaker 6: experience that I am having is one in which it
36:27
Speaker 6: is clear that, regardless of someone's gender, they want to
36:32
Speaker 6: know that their president has a plan of lower cost,
36:35
Speaker 6: that their president has a plan to secure America in
36:39
Speaker 6: the context of our position around the world. They want
36:42
Speaker 6: a president of the United States who honors our military.
36:45
Speaker 1: I just love how in this answer about sexism, everyone
36:50
Speaker 1: around her a streaming sexism and racism. Oh, if you
36:52
Speaker 1: don't vote for your racist heel, if you don't vote
36:55
Speaker 1: for your sexist if you're African American, you ain't black.
36:58
Speaker 2: Right, If you don't vote for you, you ain't black.
37:02
Speaker 2: You ain't black. That's been the messaging. And then they
37:05
Speaker 2: ask her about It's.
37:06
Speaker 1: Like, oh, no, I don't believe any of that really,
37:07
Speaker 1: because everybody around you saying it, and you're trying to
37:11
Speaker 1: force me to vote for you because you're black or
37:13
Speaker 1: a woman, and you're saying if you don't vote for me,
37:16
Speaker 1: you you're racist, sexist?
37:18
Speaker 2: Are both?
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Speaker 1: Now all the data that I just gave you, I'm
37:21
Speaker 1: gonna ask you to share it on social media. I'm
37:24
Speaker 1: gonna ask you to share it with your family and your friends.
37:27
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you to share it because it's vitally
37:28
Speaker 1: important that it's shared so that people know exactly what
37:31
Speaker 1: level of corruption we're at and what's going on.
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Speaker 2: So do that and I'll see you back here tomorrow