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Stepping Outside the Box · Spinning the Light Podcast

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Hello and welcome to two girls in the pot.
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I'm Sharon, I'm Christy. Welcome everyone always excited
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to do our podcast. You know, we've kind of been
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busy with the podcast, you know, for those of you who listen and
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follow we, so greatly, appreciate you.
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But you'll also notice that we've had a lot of interviews
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and stuff, but today, we're just going to kinda just going to be
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Christy and I kind of, yeah. Got a little distracted here by
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the puppy. Oh my goodness.
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You know they're wonderful to have, but man, are they, is she
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a handful. It's been such a busy time for
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us part because we were doing a lot of the interviews with the
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lot of amazing. Amazing people.
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And we are just so grateful for everybody who gets on our
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podcast shares their story and you know, one of the things we
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did this last weekend was we sponsored Colorado Springs,
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pridefest, Yeah. Pikes Peak Pride, yes.
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So that was a first for us and it was a little scary and
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intimidating if we're going to be honest.
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Yeah, two days, two full days and had a booth there passed out
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a lot of flyers and a lot of little freebies and had a really
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good time. Then we've actually were in the
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parade as well. Yeah.
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Which I want you all to know is. So outside of our comfort zone
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that was definitely stepping out of her comfort zone.
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I think what, you know, one of the things is often You know,
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my, the big thing about what we talked about here is, is taking
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those risks stepping outside that comfort zone, kind of
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exploring what's out there? And and how we do it.
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And, you know, one of the things that I think is important for us
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on our podcast is that we really do embrace all kinds of
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diversity. Yeah, definitely.
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And I think we really try to emulate a lot of the things that
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we talked about. I mean, everything is practice
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and definitely stepping outside. The comfort zone does require
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practice And I think though once you do you realize how many
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miraculous things start to happen and open up for you?
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And I really feel like that doing Pride was that's what it
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was for us. I mean I really feel like that
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it was a good and rewarding experience we met.
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So many amazing people and we had the help of so many amazing
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people as well. So a shout out to them to Tim
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and Rita and Danny and Liliana Sarah Sandra.
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They really helped us to pull this all together and together,
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make it a success. Yeah.
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There was a little bit of anxiety for you.
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Yeah. Definitely.
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I feel like that at first even after we got there and got set
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up and everything, I my body started to tense up so much, I'm
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I started getting a backache, it started kind of turning into a
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headache. It was, and I think that we
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don't even realize it, but Stuff like that.
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And something that was even, you know, supposed to be such a
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positive, which was at the beginning, because I was so
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outside my comfort zone. I really it started to impact me
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even physically. And I think that people don't
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realize that when you start to do something like that and how
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it can have that kind of impact. And she kept telling me, well,
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you got to go talk to these people.
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They're like, oh God, no, it's don't make me, you know, some
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people, I'm really I love what I do is in my profession.
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I love being a therapist, I love that one.
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I'm one and even small group stuff but, you know, you get a
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whole bunch of people and that's outside of my element.
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If I'm doing a presentation, that's different.
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I know the material, blah, blah, blah, you know, you just go
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present it. But when you're doing this and
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it's kind of on the Fly and well for one thing, when your energy
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up, I feel like it's really stepping outside your comfort
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zone sometimes when you really have to, you're promoting
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yourself. Oh, you know, that's a really
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good point because I think one of the things, you know, in when
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I talk to people one of the things They will struggle with
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was is how do I promote myself without coming off?
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Arrogant or questioning? Well, why would anybody want to
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listen to me? Or why would anybody want to
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look at my are I'm not that good, you know, I think all of
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those things kind of come into play.
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So then it becomes harder to promote yourself in that aspect.
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Do you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure.
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I know that that was it for me. I was thinking this is something
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that we do and you would think you know how you were saying if
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you know the material you're going up there and regurgitating
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when it's about you and something you're doing and you
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got to believe in yourself, wholeheartedly to be able to go
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out and promote yourself and not.
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Wait, absolutely. And it makes you feel really
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vulnerable at first. I think it does and I think one
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of the things is that this is something that we're very proud
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of our podcast. And I think we really want
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people to be connected to it and to like it.
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Yeah. Well as anybody would I have to
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say to I appreciate and I'm so grateful for everybody that
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approached us that had already even heard of the podcast that
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had already been you know, even just telling us that it's a
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suggested one for me. I haven't listened yet but I'm
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going to check it out. We appreciate that.
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So much the shout out to the lady who came over here, doing
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the parade. Yes, come out and say that she
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listen to our podcast already we.
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So appreciate you. Thank Thank you.
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Yeah. For that support because it is
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important. And I think what people are
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going on these Ventures, you know that are giving something
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to the community or whatever. There's always that feeling.
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Or maybe fear of what? If I'm not doing it correctly,
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or what if, what if they're not hearing the message, the way, I
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am trying to give the message. And so, that makes it difficult
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as well? Hmm, exactly.
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I think there's such a I guess. I think there's such thing.
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That fear factor of having an idea in your head and how you
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conceptualize something. And then when you put it, when
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you speak it out, do people hear what your conceptualizing
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sometimes? Not that I think though?
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I think the important thing is when we do these podcasts for
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everybody, is that how we conceptualize?
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It is one way but however, you're interpreting it, if it
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brings something to you, I guess that's all that really matters.
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And when you think about it in that fashion, you know what I
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mean? Because we talked about that
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too. When we read something you know
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what do you or we hear a song or we watch him, it doesn't matter
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what it is. Each one has their idea but
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you're locked in say I wonder what somebody is thinking when
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they wrote that. Oh yeah, definitely sometimes
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songs sometimes with movies, I really wonder what their
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perception was. You know, when they put that out
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there and I hope that especially with our podcast.
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We I feel like we always try to come from a genuine place I was
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wanting people to be the best that they can be and to reach
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their goals. And I think if you're coming
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from with that pure intention, that good things will come out
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of it. But yes, everybody has their own
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perception of things and granted, we cover a lot, a lot
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of topics. If anybody encountered us while
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we were there, we, you know, we were saying how many different
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things that we do cover and how many different kind of people we
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have on? So not every single episode
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we'll probably Probably resonate music, everyone.
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Yeah, but I think the other thing that's really interesting
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and or is important to us is what the things we realized is
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that every single human being has a story everything from the
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beginning from their birth to where they are.
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At that moment whether you're two years older 20 or 80, it
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doesn't matter. You have a story and I think
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that's what's important to us is the story because I tell people,
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you know, people sit there and say, oh my God, you're covering
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Bigfoot. But the thing is, is if you got
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to listen because it's the Sorry, it's the journey.
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This is our journey and once again it's really pushed us are
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motivated us. I don't know what shit is
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sometimes. I feel like a bush to step
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outside of that comfort zone to do those things that are scary
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and as Jen. And Taro says, if it scares you
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do it, that's the time to act because the greatest things can
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come out of that because As your, you know, a lot of times
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we keep ourselves in a box and it prohibits us from doing so
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many things. So many things that we would
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actually enjoy if we would give ourselves the opportunity
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because one of these, we both said is, we did not realize how
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much we were able to enjoy the parade.
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But the build-up to the parade in that.
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Oh no, it was like, oh my goodness.
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Is this ever going to happen? Are we where we're supposed to
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be? I need and also then having an
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appreciation for the people who coordinate this because it feels
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chaotic but it comes off. They know what they're doing.
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They An amazing job. And it was a great time shout
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out to Holly because that was a, that's, I would think organizing
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a parade like that would be a major undertaking and I know
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like the people in for there were supposed to be lined up in
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front of us didn't even show and that.
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So you have that came in late so that they just they figured it
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out. So you know.
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But you know I mean talk about anxiety provoking, right?
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I would think so. And then you know you you don't
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want to get to a place when doing Something that you get to
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the place where you're thinking so much about it that it turns
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to this place of anxiety and worry.
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Right, you know, and how do you kind of to keep from going to
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that place waking up the middle? Not, oh, no.
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The I do, you know, and all that other stuff, you know, how do
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you do that? Well, you know, one of the way I
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think sometimes is and what we do, I think, is we really have
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those conversations where we're doing more of that critical
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thinking, we're doing more of that organizational stuff,
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because when we start to do that, I find that as that goes
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up anxiety, goes down because it's almost like you didn't have
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a plan or something, I don't know.
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Well, exactly, I think that that's what goes into critical
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thinking. I mean talking about the
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difference between that there's, you know, people that have their
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mind going all the time. With worry, worry is not an act
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of being able to change anything and all it does is, you know,
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just eat at you. So but if you're doing critical,
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Uncle thinking you're actually coming up with Solutions your
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planning and, and communication. Definitely goes into that.
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Well, and I think that's the thing, you know, I toes tell my
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clients. When you worry, and you have
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that, all those thoughts in your head, you're like that hamster
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on the wheel, the Hampshire think that they've done a lot
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and they're going a lot of places but they're not.
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They're staying stuck in one spot, just spinning.
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And always tell people to stop that.
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Get off the wheel, going to thinking, going to planning, go
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into all of those things are going to help you get Point.
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A to point B. Yes, we'll have those moments.
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And I think we had a few of those moments with this whole
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first off we thought Pride was stolen July.
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And then we said we said yes. And I was like, oh my God,
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that's June 10th and 11th, what do we have time?
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We don't have our t-shirts made and then it was like all of
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these things started to. But you have that moment of oh
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my God Panic. Hmm and then it's like we just
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started talking about it. We started saying okay if we
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can't get this done, what can we do here?
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Yeah, yeah, communication. Was a really big thing and I
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feel like that it helps you to step beyond that place of fear.
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And actually take the action needed, it just made me have a
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memory of our wedding when we get all of our tuxedos in our
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dresses. They're okay.
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And the one who standing up with me comes and the pants.
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Don't fit. Yeah.
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But they're too short and where they're like, what do you mean
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we're getting married. What 40 minutes and what do you
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mean your pants? And you have that moment where
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everyone Panic everything. And it's like, oh my God, we're
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going to have somebody with big ol high waters.
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They were Beyond, I'm up. And then we, but we had a stuff
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for memory never quality. We do this.
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So we ended up swapping. Yes, I'm thank goodness.
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One of the other ladies was shorter, so the tuxedo fit her,
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perfect. The dress went to mind, and we
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worked it out. But that moment of panic of
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like, oh my God, we have What 125, how many other people out
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there and we don't even have people clothes that fits.
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That works really good when you have, you know, all six females
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and they don't mind wearing the tux or the dress up that we
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really good, dude. But yet was that moment of pain
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and had we stayed in that, it would have been a fiasco, right?
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We might not have even thought of that as a solution.
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Yes. But being able to sit there and
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say, oh my gosh, what can we do here?
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And then it was like, and thanks to Mars.
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Mary Jane for helping us out with that.
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Yeah. Because it was like, oh, but
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once again, those situations are going to come up, you can stay
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in that place of worry in your right.
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That worry, doesn't. It's not an action, it feels
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like an action but it's really not an action.
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Whereas when you sit there and say, you know, so I work with
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this with my clients, a lot, pause think what is it even if
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it's communication and they get where, They're getting
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tongue-tied because their anxiety is going up or
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whatever's have-nots a pause, take a breath.
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What is it? You feel the other person has to
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hear. What is that message?
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Only speak, the message, remove the emotion.
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And that's kind of through this whole thing is one of the things
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that we've learned is, how do you remove that emotion in order
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to exactly, I feel like for critical thinking that is one of
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the key things is having Emotional intelligence being
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able to step away from the situation emotionally, take that
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emotional charge out of it. Exactly.
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I think the thing is, is we can encounter that very quickly.
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It can happen in an instant, you know, can be at work.
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It could be in a conversation with the room that you're in a
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relationship, you're having. It could be with strange and
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whatever that emotion starts to override.
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Yeah, always loved that too. When people in parking lots,
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somebody goes and takes the parking spot.
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Not what would they do? That was my spot.
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Like they knew that that is that Dan?
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All this emotion comes up and then that's why we have all of
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these things where people get angry in and act out and do all
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these things because you're not critically thinking in the grand
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scheme of things that Park spot really is not yours, probably
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all guilty of it like Snapped and you know people just lose
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it, really? It's like, what what are you
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doing? You know, and I think that's the
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thing because we're so used to that emotion driving so much of
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what we do. Yeah.
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You know that we're not teaching that emotional talented, we're
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not teaching when to pull that emotion.
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Ian, not teaching the pause to be able to get to the place
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where you can do critical thinking about a situation, all
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exactly. And, you know, I mean, every
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once while will there's times where we'll get kind of wound
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up, you know, and then it takes, you know, if you're wound up on
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there, like I'll be there. Like, what are you doing?
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Well, or you'll Be there. Like, why are you upset about
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that? Or why is that bothering you
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all? We have to do is this something
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like, oh, you could have told me that five minutes ago.
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And I think he really comes through, you know, like, when
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you and I are talking about situations that, you know,
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obviously are out of our control, it's tough in society
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things that we feel strongly about we wish were different for
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people, you know. But the thing is that none of
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that can change without it, changing on a personal level.
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First each one of us making those changes Changes within
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ourselves is what creates the change in society.
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Well, you know, it's interesting that you say that because one of
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the things is, when I have clients in their escalated
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saying something going on in the world or the United States, or
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in their Community or whatever. Once again, that's outside of
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their control. I will tell them that I'll say,
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but that's talk about what being control.
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Do you have the ability to empower?
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Somebody else about it, starts in your home, and then from your
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home at your neighborhood, then your you spread out the
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community, then it gets bigger and bigger and bigger, but that
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is true. But if I am stuck in a place of
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worry about what's going on in society or whatever, if we use
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that for an example, if I'm always hiding with that anxiety
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about, oh my gosh, there's all this crime, there's all this
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this and there's all this, this and that.
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So my solution to watch as well go out of that house.
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That's a good solution. Well, no, it's not because now
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you stop living because of what's external to you that you
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have no control over. You know, I mean in and I'll ask
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my clients sometimes well. Okay, and your community, has
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there been any crime? Recently.
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Well no at your local grocery store that you go to that three
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blocks room, whatever that is well no.
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Ok then what you're talking about is something 20 blocks
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away, not that it's not a problem but it's outside of you.
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Exactly. But when you bring that 20
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blocks into your home, that's that anxiety in that worried.
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Well, how are we gonna keep safe?
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How are you doing? And I get it.
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And, you know, I tell everybody, you know, we should all be aware
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of our surroundings, but not to the point of it being
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hyper-vigilant when you get so fixated on a problem, you don't
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see Solutions you. There's no positivity and that's
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the thing. When you're changing it within
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yourself, and when you go out into the world, you're spreading
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that, that positivity, that can only equal something good.
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It's not. You know what I mean?
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It's not going to be like your film, like you've got to stay
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inside to keep safe from everything that's happening.
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Exactly. And I think that thing too, Is
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we can't meet the needs of everybody, right?
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We can't do all of those things. We just do the best that we can
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in any given situation. We had more discussion over.
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How much candy are we going to buy for this finger should do we
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really need more stickers? And I'm just telling y'all right
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now are stickers were a huge hit at Pride?
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She was there like she wanted to get these ones.
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I said I am not going to sit there and cut those off.
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I said it ain't happening. 500 stickers, cut.
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No. No, that ain't me.
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And they're like, no here's some to already cut.
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There's something and they came to the cutest little packs and
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they were really unique because so and who knew no.
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But you know, everybody thought you can never have enough
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stickers know so many people collected them but those were
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really cool ones. Yes, it's so but you were there
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like no, let's get these on. They're like, no, we're gonna
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get this one in. Mine was just simply due to the
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fact that I didn't want to add one more thing to this already.
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Kind of stressful situation. And then I said, well, let's
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just get these bracelets, we have enough braces, I said but I
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know these are really cool. Can we get these braces bleeps?
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And when you finally, she conceded and those were another
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here at they were different. But at first, it is.
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And then the thing of, oh my God, what if we run out of
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product, what if we don't have enough for everybody, what have
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you? And then it's like, then give
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out a flyer, okay? Right.
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Yeah, it is, could you once again when we let that Emotion,
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and then the critical thinking, you know, once we then went
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through and looked at the numbers you were there like, oh
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yeah, we do need a few more things.
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Yeah, but and it was, you know, like I said, that first day, was
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really stressful to start. It was starting to impact me
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physically. And then by that second day, and
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the second day was even busier than the first day.
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There was like 15,000 plus that attended Pride this year,
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apparently, and I am so grateful.
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We were a part of it that second day I was Much more relaxed even
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doing the parade. I, you know, even though up to
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that point, I was really intimidated by that idea.
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And but I was glad that we did it.
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So, it was I and I think the thing is too, is that we were
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there like, oh, my God, somebody's got to watch our
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booth. But then how do they talk about
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us? How do they tell about what we
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do? And well, I mean I these were
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some of my thoughts, you know, do I give him a little card, you
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know? But then we have information
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written on the back of our fire slowly on a rock that man.
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Yes. Oh my goodness.
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Has she hired her, man? I'm gonna be great PR.
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Yeah, I've seen you how to promote.
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Yeah, so you know once again it was just it was such a fun time
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but there was also those things, you know.
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And I loved everybody who stopped and talked with us at
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the booth and yeah, we got lots of business cards.
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We got lots of people who are wanted to do podcast, how do you
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do that? So we kind of talked with them
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about that and I think and just about encouraging people to be
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the best version once again. Who they are, hmm.
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You know, and I think that, that was one of the things we heard a
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lot. I was, you know, oh, that's so
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cool that it's about being mentally, strong, and things
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like that. Well, I'm one of the things that
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we really focus on is empowering people.
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And, you know, when people come to us with questions about
21:17
podcasting or those kinds of things, I'm always just we're
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happy to share that information because we want everybody to be
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successful. Yeah, it's not a competition
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right? Where they're like, you know,
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there's a bitch. Billion people in the world,
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everybody can take their little piece of the pie and still have
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a pretty good size piece by, you know, it's kind of our mentality
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with and, and that's that thing to a pain.
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It Forward all of those things that I think are really
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important. But once again, if I go to that
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place of well I can't give Christie that information.
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What if she starts taking my audience?
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Well, what if I don't have this and what if I don't have that
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and what if she has more, there goes that hamster on the wheel
21:56
with the worry instead of oh my There's a billion people.
22:01
Yeah, yeah. Christy can have her podcast.
22:05
Not only that. I mean, it's just more.
22:08
There's just a lot of Versatility, a lot of people
22:10
like different themes and and whatever they want to do a
22:14
podcast on that's great because there's going to be somebody.
22:18
There's, maybe an audience for them.
22:20
Absolutely. And I think that's kind of the
22:23
thing too is, you know, even the other thing you talked about
22:26
earlier. And, you know, you talked about
22:28
promoting yourself, you know, I I am amazed at some of the
22:31
people who have the ability to do that, you know what I mean?
22:35
You know, I remember we're talking to Frankie Sanchez,
22:37
senior, his whole thing is he promotes himself on social
22:41
media, that's his whole thing. He's after he promotes, he
22:44
promotes he promotes this is something we're learning and and
22:47
I don't know where it comes from, where people are
22:51
apprehensive about promoting themselves, you know what I
22:54
mean? Well, we talked a lot about that
22:56
in general. Like, people don't do self care
22:58
while self-care. It's really important for your
23:02
own sake, it within your own mind of having peace and those
23:06
kinds of things. But it's like, pay taking a Step
23:10
Beyond that even when you have to actually really promote
23:13
yourself, you're really selling your talents, basically, really
23:18
showcasing that and talking yourself up, and that people
23:22
don't do a lot of positive self-talk, in general.
23:25
I mean, that's usually what we find.
23:28
So, you know, your that's Just a dialogue in your head, think
23:31
about taking that outside of you and and promoting yourself to
23:35
somebody else, then you know, you have both sides of that
23:39
where people are just like, okay, well, they're really full
23:42
of themselves or whatever, you know.
23:44
And I think once again, I think that think of people staying so
23:47
much in their head of how much do I promote myself without
23:50
sounding arrogant or conceited? Yeah.
23:52
How much do I do this without this or without that?
23:55
Do you know what I mean? It takes a lot of believing in
23:57
yourself because even if you're, you know, don't come Across as
24:00
arrogant, you have to believe in what you're doing.
24:03
You have to back up what you say?
24:05
Yeah, you can't say I'm the best of this and then and then not
24:09
feel like you have anything valuable to to get it.
24:12
Mmm. Absolutely.
24:14
And I think once again that, that's that place, where people
24:17
get stuck in their head sometimes and I see that with
24:20
people where they can have a talent artist to me.
24:23
Are they are the most critical of themselves?
24:26
Well, you can't see it till it's done.
24:28
Well, it's not good enough. Oh, why would somebody want
24:30
this? You know what I mean?
24:32
And sometimes when we say that, why are people listening?
24:37
And then we say, it's because we're fun, I must be it.
24:43
That's what I like to think. Any, wait a minute, you know, I
24:46
put out there that I thought were putting out some valuable
24:48
information and I, you know, we really are of the mindset that
24:51
if one person listens and it matters in it, and it provides
24:55
them with something. Then we've done.
24:57
Well, that's the thing that people People should really
25:01
realize. I mean we've had previous
25:03
episodes about like even knowing yourself worth, whatever, you're
25:07
giving whatever, you're providing whatever service it
25:12
is, if you're really putting your heart into it, you're
25:15
bringing something positive to other people and I think that's
25:18
what you have to. Remember, I think we have to
25:20
stop listening to all those other people who have these
25:22
strong opinions of what we are, and who we are, and all this,
25:26
and that other stuff. And I think that that's
25:27
sometimes a big struggle that I see.
25:29
See, you know in my practice is people listening to other
25:32
people. Oh, I'm not good enough.
25:33
Our friends, it doesn't matter, you're not gonna be able to do
25:35
this. You know, you're not smart
25:38
enough, you're not there, you're not that.
25:40
We need to start shutting that off.
25:41
Because once again, that Lisa that anxiety, because if I'm
25:45
doing something and I feel like, you know, I'm good at this, but
25:49
then those voices start coming back in of, you know what, he
25:52
ended up being an artist. She can't be an artist what you
25:54
can do, you not going to be getting money with in that
25:56
little nagging crap, that stays there would be Is it or not?
26:00
Then we start to have anxiety about why can't do this, no?
26:05
Any start second-guessing yourself.
26:06
Exactly. That's where the worry comes
26:09
into play, and it's just because you're starting to listen to
26:12
those other voices that makes you feel like you're incapable.
26:15
And that's not true. Exactly.
26:17
So I tell the artist I said, you know, some of my clients are
26:19
artists. I'll tell them, you know what we
26:22
are in this era of social media. I said, where you put your heart
26:27
out there, there's going to be somebody who sees it and That's
26:29
what they're looking for that exact thing is what they are
26:32
looking for. Exactly.
26:35
So social media has opened up the world to a lot of people
26:39
with different talents and you know, you can get on there, you
26:41
can see people's I love the thing.
26:43
I love the most about social media is the talent.
26:46
I've got to see because of it, right?
26:49
It is amazing, amazing amazing. I'm so grateful for some of the
26:55
artists. I've seen some of the singers.
26:57
I've seen. Just, it's amazing.
26:59
Using tummy. Exactly.
27:01
And I mean that's true because you get to see more people being
27:06
brave and putting themselves out there and that way and just
27:10
showcasing their talents. And that's one of the things we
27:13
love doing even on the podcast. We talk about that all the time,
27:16
the people that we have on showcasing their talents or you
27:20
know, their determination to achieve something.
27:23
And I think it's amazing that we do have that platform for that
27:27
with social media because like like I A, I mean, unless
27:31
somebody had just happened to end up on a show like America's
27:34
Got Talent or whatever those kinds of shows that are on now
27:38
that showcase that kind of thing unless they ended up on a show,
27:41
you would never meet even know they exist but because of social
27:44
media, we have access to that. And I think that is really cool
27:48
and I think that once again I think people when they put
27:51
themselves out there and they also open I feel like one of the
27:56
other things I hear people say. But if you do that, then Can
27:59
sometimes be mean, mmm. You know.
28:02
So then there's the anxiety over.
28:04
Oh my God, if I do this, what are people going to say about
28:07
me? Am I going to be body shaming or
28:09
am I going to be whatever all the kinds of different stuff
28:13
that people say? Because, you know, you're
28:15
sitting behind something and you don't know these people, but we
28:18
feel the need to doing this. And so there's anxiety and even
28:23
in that and that's okay, because there's always gonna be haters
28:26
one things that I am always telling, Sharon you will notice
28:30
on any post that you see there's all kinds of reactions to things
28:36
sometimes, and you're just there like, wow, how could you be
28:39
angry about that, you know, or how could you, you know, it
28:41
seems like such a positive message but there are people, I
28:44
think that what I think what you have to realize is that a lot of
28:48
those people, I feel like are usually miserable in their own
28:52
existence and they they're not to a place where that they're
28:56
even happy within themselves and a lot of times Here a lot of
29:00
criticisms from people and that and, you know, that's just,
29:04
that's how people are even within their own head.
29:06
Like I said, it's a lot of - dialogue that goes on in there.
29:09
So do we expect them to be that much nicer to others?
29:12
I mean, I don't know there's that but, you know, I think that
29:16
you have to move beyond that. Like you say, stop listening to
29:19
all the background noise all those naysayers.
29:22
Yeah, that tells you you can't because, you know, that you can
29:25
and it just takes practice. And, you know, I think that that
29:29
that's one of the things that I love about this podcast is that
29:33
the people that we have on our people, like you said, they have
29:37
a goal, they have a vision, and if we can give them a platform
29:41
for that 24, even to get one more person, whether it's AJ,
29:46
the MMA, getting another person who says, oh my gosh, I'm going
29:51
to go watch because of him or Frankie Sanchez jr.
29:54
I'll watch that boxing match. I didn't know, boxing could be
29:58
fun, you know all of Those things Suzanne.
30:01
Oh watercolor, you know, whatever it is, you know, I
30:04
didn't know, I could appreciate that, whatever it is, poetry all
30:08
the different things, all the different people we've had on
30:11
with just those ideas and that thing of finding somebody who
30:18
needs that, sometimes they meet somebody who oh well you know
30:22
he's so lonely he's from a small town and look they could make it
30:26
you know or whatever. I think those things are super
30:29
Important. Yeah, exactly.
30:32
And I think that's what we try to promote that.
30:34
We don't, it doesn't matter who you are.
30:36
And once again, we're all about different people, it's that
30:40
story that you tell. And once again the stories and
30:44
everybody who we interview at some point probably had their
30:49
doubts. Oh definitely, you know what I
30:51
mean? Am I gonna be able to make it
30:54
and still do? It's it's interesting because
30:57
even people that are, you know, really And out there, you're
31:01
still going to deal with some of those fears and insecurities.
31:04
I mean, it just happens. We're human, we have those that,
31:08
you know, we face those things. But and it's just continuing to
31:12
practice and that consistency, each day that moves us forward.
31:17
Exactly. And I think that having a great
31:20
support system and I go find those people who work, who who
31:25
understand your vision who want to share in you?
31:29
Meeting whatever that vision is, yes.
31:33
Surround yourself with those people.
31:35
Let them in on this journey that you're on.
31:39
We are so fortunate because we have amazing people.
31:43
Yes, who have network of friends, great waterfall,
31:47
network of friends. It was amazing.
31:50
It was so great, you know, we finished the parade and there's
31:52
Heather and Michael taking photos and stuff and I so
31:56
appreciate them being there and supporting And hanging out with
32:00
us at our booth, you know, just things like that, you're
32:04
grateful for it. Yes.
32:06
But it also helps when you start having that anxiety or all, that
32:11
worried around something focus on those people who are already
32:16
in your corner. Not the people you don't have
32:19
yet. Yes.
32:21
Because they'll come it'll come that summer.
32:23
We keep saying that y'all. We've been doing this since
32:25
2021. Yes. 2021, we do our best to be
32:33
as consistent as we can, but that consistency for those who
32:38
have followed us from the beginning.
32:40
So immensely grateful. Yes.
32:42
For those of you barely jumping on immensely grateful for that,
32:45
exactly. We love it.
32:47
And we always tell people and we told him we can be interactive.
32:51
If you have topics ideas, get on our web page, two girls in a
32:55
pod.com. Leave a message first there.
32:59
Yeah. Facebook, send us an email
33:01
podcast, dot two girls in the Pod at hotmail.com, any of
33:06
those. Think you do that if we get
33:08
enough people in their city? Oh, what about this topic?
33:11
Then we'll cover that topic. Yeah, because it's important.
33:15
We want to hear from everybody. Maybe that's a therapist in me
33:19
or something. I want to know people's ideas.
33:22
I want to know what they're thinking how they're processing
33:26
things, you know. But most definitely You know,
33:29
that's such a huge thing for us because that's part of giving
33:33
back. Well and I think that's part of
33:36
a critical thinking process, I mean, you know, getting feedback
33:40
and things like that. It tells you about Direction and
33:43
stuff that you, you need to take and helping you come up with a
33:48
plan and those kinds of things. I would think anybody would want
33:52
that in anything that they're doing.
33:54
If you got somebody that can give you feedback and, you know,
33:58
sometimes it's constructive, So sometimes it's just
34:01
encouragement but it's it's important to have that.
34:05
Well no, I think that's the other thing too.
34:07
Is when you do get that feedback, you often find.
34:11
You were worried about something that you created about all
34:15
worries, all created in our head.
34:17
It doesn't, it doesn't exist outside of our head but you
34:20
find. Oh my God.
34:21
I just had to do I just had to look at it that way.
34:24
Yeah I was you realize that some of your fears are how
34:27
unrealistic they are. You know That's one of the cool
34:30
things. I love about being a therapist,
34:32
you know, somebody comes into my office and they're talking about
34:34
this and I'm kind of looking and saying, did you ever think of it
34:36
this way? And they'll be there.
34:37
Look what know, I can go on. Yeah, oh my gosh, I didn't even
34:43
know you could think of things like that and they're like, why
34:45
not always about stepping outside that box, looking at
34:50
things in very different ways using that critical thinking
34:53
using that going into that place.
34:57
Now, that's not to say that the emotions not Art.
35:00
It's very important acknowledging.
35:02
The emotion is important, but then saying, okay now that I
35:05
have it. Now, what do I do differently?
35:07
The particularly if it's something you don't lie, if
35:10
you're having a feeling you don't like, or it's a criticism
35:12
that you've received or that and you have to be able to okay, you
35:16
hear it, let go of the emotion and move on from there, you
35:20
know. So this is another really big
35:22
thing is, I always tell people, you know, somebody comes to you
35:24
and in these critical of you or has an opinion, about you always
35:29
tell Self in your head. That is their opinion.
35:31
That is their truth. It is not mine, right?
35:35
And I say, repeat that, that is their opinion.
35:38
That is their truth. It is not mine and when you
35:42
understand that, that is theirs and you give them ownership of
35:45
it, you don't take ownership of it.
35:47
Exactly. And that's huge because you
35:50
don't even realize sometimes people are even doing it because
35:54
it's necessarily what they truly think.
35:56
Sometimes, you know when they say there's that saying Misery
36:00
loves company. Some people are just bitter and,
36:03
you know, they'll say something hurtful like that, you know,
36:05
maybe not even, it's not even truly about what you're doing.
36:09
It's just that the place and state of mind that they're in,
36:11
and I agree. And I think that sometimes, and
36:15
I think that goes to, that same thing is that is their version
36:19
of their truth. But it's coming from very
36:21
emotional place and you're right.
36:23
Sometimes it's somebody's in a very bad place.
36:25
They often will say something hurtful to To bring because
36:30
you're right there, is that comfort in that?
36:32
I'm not the only one miserable, right?
36:35
But I was tell people, if that's the case, then do your best to
36:37
elevate them to your level, and not go to.
36:39
There's exactly and sometimes that's difficult for people to
36:43
do. Well, it can't be because you
36:44
get caught up in the emotion, right.
36:46
You know, some system says, oh my God, that outfit.
36:48
Just it's hideous on you or whatever and you're out in
36:51
public, it's like, oh my God, where's the closest place to go
36:54
change and 90 yards and I love looking good today.
36:57
I think you're like, what You lied to me?
37:03
Yeah, yeah. She's always telling me, you
37:06
know. Okay.
37:06
Do we look OK? Because one the most I got a all
37:09
this story real quick. We were with your brother,
37:14
David, and we were headed, I think to Florida, we stop off
37:17
overnight and we order pizza. So David and I are sitting on
37:23
the bed watching TV or something, and they have pizza,
37:26
man, comes and Christy goes to the door, gets the pizza.
37:28
Well, she gets a pizza. And when she turns around David
37:31
and my our eyes are huge and where they're like, you went to
37:33
the door with your hair, like that her hair was literally
37:36
standing straight up at the front, it looked horrible.
37:42
I was like, wow, you love me? Let me go to the door.
37:44
Looking funny. He probably went all people.
37:48
Wait, you should have seen the way that lady's hair was done.
37:52
But yeah, so that's why it's important to have those people
37:55
who really love and care about you to let you know those
37:58
things. Since that time I will let you
38:00
know I have not let her go out with her hair looking like that.
38:05
I appreciate that. But no I think we do our best
38:10
but in sometimes it is funny. You don't you said that you know
38:12
you feel like you look all good and everything then somebody
38:15
says something different and how quickly that will drop
38:18
somebody's mood. Yeah, instead of once.
38:21
Realizing what they think and feel about you is only as
38:26
relevant, as you let it be exactly.
38:29
What should be more relevant, is how you see yourself?
38:32
Yes, that is the biggest thing. How you see yourself should be
38:36
more relevant than how anybody else does and I have to say
38:40
after going to Pride, I was like, you know, it's wonderful
38:44
that people have that can have the confidence because we saw
38:49
every kind of outfit. They're all That kind of stuff.
38:52
I was like you know, that's it's wonderful though that people can
38:56
can feel good about themselves and go out there and, you know,
39:01
be who they want to be then and you know, you have that one day
39:04
or whatever. But you know, I think the thing
39:06
is is it's it is that thing of embracing who you are.
39:11
And but once again, we get so caught up in that worry anxiety
39:17
and can stay there longer than we need to It's and, you know,
39:22
he sipped and think oh my gosh! You know you were a for 20
39:25
minutes about something that's 20 minutes you don't get back.
39:28
Hmm it's done gone and then oftentimes I don't know if you
39:33
go out there to You'll worry worry worry worry worry about
39:36
something and then the time comes or whatever and it's
39:40
almost anti-climatic because nothing happened.
39:43
Yeah, it's any of your like what?
39:45
I just oh my God. Whatever you were worried about
39:49
wasn't even an issue. Actly.
39:52
Yeah, but how often that happens.
39:54
Where people will work themselves up over stuff.
39:57
Yeah. Once again when I'm working with
39:58
clients, I'll be there. Like is this your problem or
40:01
somebody else's? What do you mean?
40:04
I said still not your problem. People haven't been problem with
40:08
that, you know, because I think a lot of times, Well, when you
40:11
love and care about somebody, you're trying to fix something
40:13
for them and you really not, you know, it's not about you, you
40:18
know, a lot of times people struggle with that, I think.
40:21
That's where you can sit there and you can be supportive and
40:25
stuff. But you know, these people have
40:27
this idea of, oh my God, I got to make somebody happy.
40:29
You talk about staying in a place of worry all the time.
40:32
You're always worried. Am I making them happy or you're
40:34
always worried? Am I good enough?
40:35
Or I make this, I'm that in which case now you're not having
40:39
a relationship that's healthy or you're not even being healthy,
40:43
it's really being able to shift that to go to that place of
40:47
really sitting down and giving thought to something.
40:51
And the thing is, is that it makes it complicated because we
40:55
don't change a thought with the thought.
40:57
Okay. So you know people comes okay.
41:00
I'm just going to think good thoughts.
41:01
The ring goes really seriously. I don't think so.
41:04
Yeah. The thing is his, we use our
41:06
other senses. We start to believe, we have
41:09
gratitude. There's all these other things
41:11
that we can do in order to change some of those thought
41:13
processes to get us out of that place of worry and that or also
41:19
the best. And another way to do is once
41:21
again And if you're in that state of worry, is go to
41:23
critical thinking, say okay, wait a minute, what do I have
41:26
control over? What are some things that I can
41:29
do to change the situation, right?
41:32
Because then I get to that place of looking for Solutions.
41:37
In oftentimes people, this this is interesting to to they'll get
41:40
stuck with two options or two solutions that but neither one
41:44
really feels right and on there, like, what are you doing?
41:48
Why just those do? And they're like, what do you
41:49
mean they don't say for every Problem there could be multiple
41:52
Solutions but we will get fixated and we will think
41:55
there's only two and then we struggle between those two and
41:59
if we stop with that and we take that step back sometimes we'll
42:03
see a third solution or fourth or fifth and but you can't do
42:08
that. Unless you take that step back
42:10
like you said and look at it more.
42:12
Critically. Yeah practice the pause.
42:15
Yes that is so important to practice that pause.
42:21
To take that breath. And then to see what can I do?
42:24
Differently, let go of the emotion.
42:26
Yes, if I'm doing stuff that's outside.
42:29
My comfort zone, pause, take that breath.
42:33
Yeah. And say, look at what stepping
42:37
outside your comfort zone. What is going to be the benefit
42:40
of it? Why am I doing it?
42:45
That was one of the big things with us with pride was, what is
42:49
the benefit we get to reach more people, we get to engage with
42:53
more people on a personal level, just sitting there chatting with
42:55
people and stuff, which is really important.
42:58
Not only networking. Yeah.
43:00
And not only gaining listeners, hopefully, that, you know, it,
43:04
resonates with people, but also, those contacts that we made, you
43:09
know, to maybe eventually have on the podcast because they have
43:14
a Remar a story to tell and, you know, once again, there's
43:18
anxiety around all of that, there's anxiety around taking
43:21
that first step stepping outside of our comfort zone, but have
43:26
the anxiety. But then switch to that thinking
43:28
mode. Where you say, what is the plan?
43:31
What is the goal? What are my steps and know?
43:34
There's going to be anxiety. Give that short Focus to it that
43:39
you have to then. Realize the anxiety is my
43:41
motivator. Yeah, the anxiety is my Major
43:45
and step away, shifting back to your main goal and focus because
43:50
if you can just take care of what's right in front of you,
43:54
that's like one baby step forward to your goal and it's
43:58
not about thinking about all of the end result or all the other
44:01
things that have to happen because that's overwhelming,
44:04
just focusing on what the task right in front of you.
44:07
Exactly. So, for us it was a super
44:11
exciting week, it was stepping out.
44:14
Outside of our comfort zone, having that anxiety, having to
44:18
switch to that critical thinking, to get to make it more
44:22
successful. To realizing that stepping
44:25
outside of that comfort zone. Wasn't as scary as we made it
44:29
out to be as often is the case, but it was fun.
44:34
We appreciate everybody who stopped at our booth and chatted
44:37
with us and we had an amazing time and we're very, very
44:41
grateful for it. Yes.
44:42
And hopefully hopefully, That people are feeling more
44:45
empowered. Yes, that's really the big
44:49
thing. We are super excited.
44:51
Next week we'll have another guest on.
44:54
Yeah. Georgie go sheep and we're very
44:57
excited about that she's local to Springs and she's going to
45:01
talk with us a little bit about her practice and the cool things
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that she is doing in the practice dance or super, duper
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excited about that. I guess, for this week, the mess
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Could you step outside your comfort zone?
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Be brave, be brave. And also, knowing that anxiety,
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starts shift it to that more critical thinking to looking for
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those solutions, for helping the critical thinking keep you
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focused and on task with the goal that you're trying to
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achieve, keep believing in yourself.
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Yes. Being the best version of you
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that you can possibly be as always we are super grateful to
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everybody. Who listens and we appreciate it
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and thank you so much. Have a great week.
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Yes, bye.