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Liz Cheney's Jan. 6 Committee Witness Could Find Herself in Jail After Trump WH Attorney Drops Bomb · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot going on, including the Supreme Court
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Speaker 1: has just come down and smack down the EPA and
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Speaker 1: their ability to quote fight to climate change. That's how
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Speaker 1: the Laft's wing to spend this. I'm going to give
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Speaker 1: you those details in just a moment. Also, Liz Cheney's
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Speaker 1: star witness from the January sixth Committee could find herself
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Speaker 1: in jail after Trump's White House attorney has dropped a
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Speaker 1: bomb saying she's making it all up. That's right. Trump
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Speaker 1: derangement syndrome is debilitating disease that disconnects the individual from reality.
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Speaker 1: We've seen it for a while now. Although most are
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Speaker 1: either born with or have developed a natural immunity to
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Speaker 1: this sickness, there are still those who attempt to spread
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Speaker 1: the infection of Trump's arrangement syndrome. It now appears that
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Speaker 1: Cassie Hutchinson, an aide to former White House Chief of
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Speaker 1: Staff Mark Meadows in the Trump administration, has come down
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Speaker 1: with an acute case of Trump deranged derangement syndrome. The
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Speaker 1: cure might be some jail time, apparently for her. As
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Speaker 1: Representative Liz Chenney displayed a handwritten note at the January
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Speaker 1: sixth committe hearing that Hutcheson testifies she wrote after Mark
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Speaker 1: Meadows handed her a note card and penned to take
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Speaker 1: his dictation. According to ABC News, with what was supposed
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Speaker 1: to be a big bombshell the problem, Eric Hirshman, a
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Speaker 1: former Trump White House lawyer, claims a note was not
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Speaker 1: written by her, but was actually written by him. And
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Speaker 1: this is a former Trump White House lawyer saying this, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: kind of a big deal, don't you think when you
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Speaker 1: testify under oath and you display a handwritten note at
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Speaker 1: the January sixth committee hearing, and then you this woman
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Speaker 1: who's clearly lying on multiple things, testifies that she wrote
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Speaker 1: that note, and now you've got the White House lawyer saying, oh,
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Speaker 1: she didn't write it. I did. Now. Huts And testified
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Speaker 1: about the note and said, quote, that's a note that
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Speaker 1: I wrote at the direction of the Chief of Staff
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Speaker 1: on January the sixth, likely around three o'clock, and it's
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Speaker 1: written on the chief of staff note card. But that's
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Speaker 1: your handwriting, missus. Hudson Representative Liz Chenney then asked, yes,
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Speaker 1: that's my handwriting. Hudson answered well. A spokesman for Hirshman
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Speaker 1: told ABC News last night quote. The handwritten note that
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Speaker 1: Cassie Hudson testified was written by her was in fact
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Speaker 1: written by Eric Hirshman on January the six, twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: All sources would direct knowledge and law enforcement have and
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Speaker 1: will confirm that it was written by mister Hirshman, the
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Speaker 1: representative stated. Hudson also testified that Tony Ornado, a former
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump Deputy chief of Staff for Operations, told her
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Speaker 1: that former President Trump reportedly demanded that the Secret Service
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Speaker 1: take him to the Capitol on January the six, According
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Speaker 1: to the latest accounts, Hudson also said that Ornado told
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Speaker 1: her that Trump glunged did a Secret Service agent tried
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Speaker 1: to grab him by the neck, and then also tried
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Speaker 1: to grab the wheel of the presidential suv. All this testimony,
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Speaker 1: by the way that has come out, all of this
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Speaker 1: has been clearly was done under oath. Ornado, on the
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Speaker 1: other hand, says he did not brief Hutchinson on any
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Speaker 1: of this. A source close to Ornado told Fox News
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Speaker 1: that Arnato watched the hearing and was distraught when Hudson
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Speaker 1: made the allegation about the steering wheel. To top it off,
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Speaker 1: Ornado wasn't even in the presidential SUV when the alleged
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Speaker 1: incident was supposed to have happened. Again, another example of
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Speaker 1: the lies coming from the January sixth Committee and from
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Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson. But here's her testimony, all put together by
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Speaker 1: Liz Cheney. I want to play it for you in
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Speaker 1: the same thing Democrats did. The same exact thing the
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Speaker 1: they did with Donald Trump and Russian collusion. They just
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Speaker 1: make up lies at a thin air. They go before
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Speaker 1: the American people, they put it out there, it's a bombshell,
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Speaker 1: and some people actually believe that it's real. Then, without
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Speaker 1: doing any vetting of the information, which the Democrats could
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Speaker 1: have done before they went to the TV cameras with
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Speaker 1: this information, we know they didn't vet it and why
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Speaker 1: because they knew they were making it up as a
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Speaker 1: lie from the very beginning. Liz Cheney knew she was
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Speaker 1: making up these lies and sewed it out. M Kinsinger,
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Speaker 1: and so did all the other Democrats, Adam Shift and
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Speaker 1: others on this January sixth committee. That's why you don't
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Speaker 1: vet information. You don't vet it when you know you
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Speaker 1: made it up. Take a listen that you're understanding that
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Speaker 1: the president wanted to take the mags away and said
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Speaker 1: that the armed individuals were not there to hurt him.
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Speaker 1: That's a fair assessment. I just want to confirm that.
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Speaker 1: That is when you heard the President say the people
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Speaker 1: with weapons weren't there to hurt him, and then he
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Speaker 1: wanted the Secret Service to remove the magnetometers. That's correct.
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Speaker 1: Mister Sippiloni said something to you, like, make sure the
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Speaker 1: movement to the capital does not happen. Is that correct?
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Speaker 1: Sippiloni said something to the effect of, please make sure
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Speaker 1: we don't go up to the capital. Cassidy, keep in
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Speaker 1: touch with me. We're going to get charged with every
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Speaker 1: crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. And do
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Speaker 1: you remember which crimes mister Sippoloni was concerned with. In
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Speaker 1: the days leading up to the six we had conversations
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Speaker 1: about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral account. What
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Speaker 1: happened in the President's vehicle when the Secret Service told
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Speaker 1: him he would not be going to the capital, the
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Speaker 1: President said something to the effect of, I'm the FFing president.
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Speaker 1: Take me up to the Capitol now, to which Bobby responded, sir,
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Speaker 1: we have to go back to the West wing now.
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Speaker 1: Apparently I go back to the facts that we're now
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Speaker 1: being told. The person who she's claiming told her all
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Speaker 1: this wasn't even in the presidential motorcade or that car
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Speaker 1: at the time. That's why they're angry. She's also claiming
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Speaker 1: that she has this handwritten note that she says she wrote,
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Speaker 1: which in fact, she did not write. But it doesn't
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Speaker 1: matter because we're gonna go with Cassie Hutchinson's account because
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Speaker 1: it's a lie. Are we gonna fact check it. No,
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to the people that she's quoting. No,
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Speaker 1: is all this here say testimony? Yes. The President reached
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Speaker 1: up towards the front of the vehicle to crab at
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Speaker 1: the steering wheel. Mister Engel grabbed his arm said sir,
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Speaker 1: you need to take your hand off the steering wheel.
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Speaker 1: We're going back to the West Wing. We're not going
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Speaker 1: to the Capitol on December one, twenty again, let's go
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Speaker 1: back to that claim you just heard it there. He's furious, right,
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Speaker 1: the man in charge is furious, saying that never happened.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't even in the vehicle. This idea that this was,
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Speaker 1: that this happened is literally all made up. The handwritten
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Speaker 1: note that Cassie Hudson testified was written by her was
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Speaker 1: in fact written by Eric Hirshman on January the sixth,
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Speaker 1: a White House lawyer, not by her. Hudson also testified
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Speaker 1: that Tony Ornado, former Trump Chief of Staff for Operations,
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Speaker 1: told her that President Trump repeatedly demanded that the secrets
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Speaker 1: are just taking him the Capitol on January sixth. Guess what,
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Speaker 1: We're not a turtor that Trump lunge to the Secret
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Speaker 1: Service agent try to grab the wheel of the president suv.
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Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Ornado is saying, not only did that
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Speaker 1: not happen, I did not breathe Hutchinson on the car ride,
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Speaker 1: A source Closernado told Fox's Therenado Watch the hearing was
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Speaker 1: distraught when Hudson made the allegation about the steering wheel.
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Speaker 1: To top it off, Ornado wasn't even in the presidential
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Speaker 1: STUV when the alleged incident was supposed to have happened.
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Speaker 1: So now there's like five different holes in her story.
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Speaker 1: A way it gets better. Attorney General Barr said in
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Speaker 1: an interview that the Department of Justice had now not
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Speaker 1: found evidence of widespread election fraud sufficient to change the
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Speaker 1: outcome of the election. Miss Hutchinson, how did the President
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Speaker 1: react to hearing that news? I first noticed there is
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Speaker 1: cotch up dripping down the wall, and there's a shattered
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Speaker 1: porcelain plate in an amazing catchup dripping down the wall
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Speaker 1: and a shattered plate. I'm telling you a story of
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Speaker 1: political theater that I'm making up as I go. I'm
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Speaker 1: making it up as I go. Yes, I've lied about
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Speaker 1: who was in the presidential Lima's that's a fact. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I've put words in the in the mouths of people
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Speaker 1: that say it never happened. Yes, I've been told you
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Speaker 1: that I had access to the President in the White
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Speaker 1: House that I didn't actually have. Yes, I was briefed
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Speaker 1: on a situation where a person who briefed me is
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Speaker 1: now saying I never briefed her. Right in fact, Ornato
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Speaker 1: watched the hearing and was a straught when Hudson made
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Speaker 1: the allegations about the steering wheel. To top it off,
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Speaker 1: the dude that she says briefed her on all this
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Speaker 1: wasn't even in the STUV. But hey, we've got ketchup
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Speaker 1: following down the wall, and we've got a plate that
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Speaker 1: a porcelain plate. Got to make sure it says porcelain,
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Speaker 1: because we got to really ham up the story that
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Speaker 1: I witnessed. It happened on the floor. The valet had
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Speaker 1: articulated that the President was extremely angry at the Attorney
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Speaker 1: General's ap interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall.
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Speaker 1: That you heard the president, mister Meadows and the White
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Speaker 1: House counsel discussing the hang Mike Pence chance. They're literally
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Speaker 1: calling for the Vice president to be acting hung and
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Speaker 1: Mark had responded something to the effect of, you heard him, Pat,
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Speaker 1: he thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn't think they're doing
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Speaker 1: anything wrong. As rioters chanted hang Mike Pence. The President
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Speaker 1: of the United States, Donald Trump said the quote Mike
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Speaker 1: deserves it as an American. I was disgusted. She's disgusted
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Speaker 1: as an American. Disgusted as American because the President United
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Speaker 1: States America wants his vice president to be hung. She's
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Speaker 1: already lied about the limo. She's lied about commandeering in
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Speaker 1: grabbing the steering well. She's lied about him demanding you
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Speaker 1: take me back to the Capitol. She's lied about the hanging,
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Speaker 1: She's lied about all of it. You think she'll go
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Speaker 1: to jail for this? No, you are no why because
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Speaker 1: she's telling the story that the Left needed her to tell,
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Speaker 1: a made up story that they did not fact check
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Speaker 1: because they knew they couldn't fact check it. They knew it.
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Speaker 1: By the way, there was no way to fact check this.
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Speaker 1: All the people that she's quoting, they could have checked
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Speaker 1: with and say, hey, can you confirm or deny this story? Right?
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Speaker 1: Every single fact here, They should have gone to the
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Speaker 1: people where she claimed she heard it from or talked
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Speaker 1: to hey, did this happen? Can you confirm you had
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Speaker 1: this conversation. They would have denied it based on what
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Speaker 1: we now know. And that's why the chair, that's why
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Speaker 1: Liz Cheney, that's why Adam Schiff did not try to
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Speaker 1: confirm or deny any of this because they knew it
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Speaker 1: was all alive from the very beginning. Everybody, by the way,
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Speaker 1: should be noticing a pattern here by Democrats when it
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Speaker 1: comes to them now, just creating out of thin air
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Speaker 1: these types of issues. Anytime now the Democrats make an
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Speaker 1: accusation against Republicans, we should go look at the facts
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Speaker 1: and not trust them because they are pathological, psychotic liars.
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Speaker 1: At this point, Donald Trump, by the way, has come
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Speaker 1: out on Cassie Hudson saying, quote, this lady yesterday is
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Speaker 1: something there is something wrong with her? Is there something wrong?
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Speaker 1: She said? I jumped from a car and I started
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Speaker 1: strangling a Secret Service agent who I know very well.
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Speaker 1: I grabbed the steering wheel of a car. Question mark.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump railing against this woman as he should. He
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Speaker 1: did an interview with Newsmax on this to make it
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Speaker 1: very clear that none of this actually happened. Tako Liston afternoon,
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Speaker 1: I sat down with former President Donald Trump at his
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Speaker 1: New Jersey golf club, his first interview since the explosive
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Speaker 1: January sixth hearing testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson on Tuesday. Take
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Speaker 1: a look. It's been an interesting couple of days, mister President.
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Speaker 1: The January sixth Committee yesterday holding a special session with
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Speaker 1: what they're calling apparently some new some new evidence. They
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Speaker 1: had a junior staffer, Cassidy Hutchinson, twenty six years old.
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Speaker 1: She made some wild secondhand accusations about you crazy. What'd
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Speaker 1: you make it up? I thought it was absolutely crazy.
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Speaker 1: This committee is a lot of people say illegally formed.
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Speaker 1: But when you look at what they doing, and when
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Speaker 1: you look at what they're saying or what they're doing
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Speaker 1: through the country. Now, the good news is a lot
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Speaker 1: of people aren't watching, a lot of people aren't listening
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Speaker 1: to it, but they're trying to do real harm. We
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Speaker 1: went through Russia, Russia, Russia, We went through Ukraine, we
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Speaker 1: went through the Muller Report, no collusion after three years,
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Speaker 1: two and a half years, and now we're going through this.
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Speaker 1: It's a one way side show. It's a horrible thing
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Speaker 1: that they can do to the country where they take
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Speaker 1: this kind of time. They don't talk about making America
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Speaker 1: great anymore. All they do is investigate everybody, and it's
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Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible thing. This lady yesterday, there's something wrong
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Speaker 1: with her? Is there something wrong? She said? I jumped
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Speaker 1: from a car and I started strangling. Think of this,
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Speaker 1: I started strangling A secret Service agent who I know
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Speaker 1: very well. I grabbed the steering wheel of a car
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Speaker 1: that you said that I wanted guns at my rally.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want guns. I have to speak to and
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Speaker 1: I don't want guns for anybody. Will Is that a course?
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Speaker 1: In fact, the Secret Service came out and said that
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Speaker 1: this story is totally false. Yea, the woman is living
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Speaker 1: in fantasyland. She's a social climber. If you call that social.
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Speaker 1: I think it's just a shame that this is happening
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Speaker 1: to our country, and we don't have any Republicans up
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Speaker 1: there to dispute it. We have one who quit Kenzinger,
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Speaker 1: we have another one who's down by thirty five points Wyoming.
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Speaker 1: She's a total disaster. She's a train wreck. But think
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Speaker 1: of it. Nobody to cross examine. Professor Dersha Wood said,
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Speaker 1: you can't do where you have a hearing and there's
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Speaker 1: no crosse examination. By the way, the president's referencing the
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Speaker 1: fact that, in an unprecedented move, the Democrat leadership refused
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Speaker 1: to allow the Republicans to put the members they wanted
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Speaker 1: on the January Committee, so they only allowed for Liz Cheney,
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Speaker 1: who hates Donald Trump more than obviously Republicans, and she's
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Speaker 1: down by thirty six points in the polls in her stations.
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Speaker 1: She's not acting on behalf of her voters, which is
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Speaker 1: what was she was elected to do. And as Adam Kinsinger,
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Speaker 1: who he just referred to as a guy who quit,
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Speaker 1: did you try to strangle a Secret Service agent? And
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Speaker 1: he knew No? Do you try to grab this steering
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Speaker 1: wheel and commondeer vehicle? No? Did she lie about a
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Speaker 1: note that she claims that she wrote that was actually
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Speaker 1: written by a lawyer at the White House who worked
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Speaker 1: in the on the legal team. She lied about that too.
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Speaker 1: She lied about who was in the car with the president,
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Speaker 1: the guy who she claims told her all this is.
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Speaker 1: I didn't tell her and brief her on any of this.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, I wasn't in the vehicle. I wasn't.
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Speaker 1: I'm watching this and I'm hearing this for the first time,
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Speaker 1: these lies that are coming out. We shouldn't believe anything
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Speaker 1: the Democrats say at this point on anything moving forward,
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Speaker 1: because they are pathological, psychotic liars. Listen to President, this
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Speaker 1: would have been the easy she has cross examination anywhere,
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Speaker 1: and they put her on and they don't even confirm
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Speaker 1: it with the Secret Service. The Secret Service people in
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Speaker 1: the car said, this didn't happen. But but you don't
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Speaker 1: even need that. Who would do that? I would, I
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Speaker 1: would grab a Secret Service person by the throat. I
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Speaker 1: don't even know if it's possible, certainly not in the beast.
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Speaker 1: It's very hard. Even in one of the suv. It's
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Speaker 1: very hard. For another reason, these guys left three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty pounds right right I the suv tonight. It
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Speaker 1: seemed like it was pretty smooth. Yeah, well grabbing it
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Speaker 1: it's fine. I mean, but you know, these are people.
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Speaker 1: These are great people. These are great people. They've devoted
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Speaker 1: their lives to it, and I think they were very
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Speaker 1: embarrassed by it because it makes them sound terrible. Tony
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Speaker 1: Ornado and Bobby Engle were great. I know, well sterling,
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Speaker 1: they are sterling, and I was very nice that they
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Speaker 1: came to my defense. I thought it was incredible actually
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Speaker 1: because referencing there the two people they're saying these are
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Speaker 1: lies never came out. I remember the score was twenty
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Speaker 1: five years old. Has happened? And as he described, she's
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Speaker 1: a social climber. They're right, it is social climbing. What
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Speaker 1: they're doing. This is total crap and they know it.
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter because this is what you do now, right,
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Speaker 1: You take down Republicans, you make up lies about them,
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Speaker 1: you shut down, and I go back to what I said.
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Speaker 1: You know, and this other breaking news story about the emails,
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Speaker 1: We know now that about one hundred percent of the
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Speaker 1: rnc's fundraising emails towards the end of the month are
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Speaker 1: literally silenced. They are not getting into your inbox at Google.
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Speaker 1: They seven months in a row where these emails have
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Speaker 1: been blocked when we're trying and this is this is
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Speaker 1: this is the corruption. Okay, this is the nightmare of
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and the and what they are doing
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Speaker 1: to win. They can't win on ideas. They have to
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Speaker 1: make up lies in propaganda, and then they have to
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Speaker 1: have the media help them with the lies in the propaganda.
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Speaker 1: That's what we do know about this. It's a it
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Speaker 1: is a must, okay, this is the must. The only
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Speaker 1: way that they can win is to manipulate, to lie,
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Speaker 1: to fabricate, to frame public servants who they's deem as
19:08
Speaker 1: a threat to their power. And that's when they find
19:12
Speaker 1: people like Liz Channey and as Adam Kensinger, and that's
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Speaker 1: when they do crap like this, which is exactly what
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Speaker 1: they are now doing, and the President saying, you know,
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Speaker 1: they's absurd. He's right, it's absurd. But we're the fact
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Speaker 1: that we're even having this conversation right now, the fact
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Speaker 1: that you even have to defend it. I mean, the
19:30
Speaker 1: media should have never The media should have done their job.
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Speaker 1: They should have immediately started fact checking this right away,
19:37
Speaker 1: and they should have immediately said and just you know,
19:42
Speaker 1: gone after them. In my opinion, they should have said,
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Speaker 1: this is no one's backing up these stories. The Democratic
19:49
Speaker 1: Party should be roasted for this, and the people that
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Speaker 1: have done this should be held accountable. But they're not.
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Speaker 1: Know some whack job can say this stuff and get
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Speaker 1: away with it. And other things that I wanted guns
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Speaker 1: at my rally. Okay, now I'm speaking. Why would I
20:09
Speaker 1: want guns? I don't want people having standing with guns
20:12
Speaker 1: in my rally. She wasn't complaining. And the other thing
20:17
Speaker 1: about this woman, she wanted to work for me after
20:19
Speaker 1: January six. She was a big Trump fan. She wanted
20:22
Speaker 1: to work for me in Florida, and we chose not
20:25
Speaker 1: to bring her down because I got very bad things.
20:27
Speaker 1: I hardly knew her and I said, well, if she's
20:30
Speaker 1: no good, I got somebody called up numerous people that
20:33
Speaker 1: she's not good. I won't say why that she's not good,
20:36
Speaker 1: but plenty of reasons. I'm not going to say that,
20:39
Speaker 1: but I'm going to say that she was not respected
20:42
Speaker 1: by the people in the White House, so they thought
20:44
Speaker 1: she shouldn't go down. I was going down to Florida
20:46
Speaker 1: with a group of people, great group of people, patriots,
20:50
Speaker 1: and her name was thrown out there and they said,
20:53
Speaker 1: keep stay away from her. They said bad things about her.
20:56
Speaker 1: And then I see her and I again, I heart
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Speaker 1: know who she is. And then I see this woman
21:03
Speaker 1: getting up and she's making up stories like one after another.
21:07
Speaker 1: But the craziest of all was that I tried to commandeer.
21:11
Speaker 1: I think they used that word. I tried to commandeer
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Speaker 1: a car with Secret Service agents telling them to take
21:18
Speaker 1: us down to the Capitol. It was totally false, and
21:22
Speaker 1: that a person can get away with it. And then
21:25
Speaker 1: I watch the Times, in the Washington Post, and I
21:28
Speaker 1: watch I get reviews on MSDNC and CNN. They hardly
21:32
Speaker 1: even talk about the fact that she's been totally discredited
21:35
Speaker 1: by the way. ABC News has just buried this headline,
21:39
Speaker 1: but I found it. Trump White House attorney disputes Cassie
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Speaker 1: Hudson's testimony about handwritten note. Former Trump White House warrior
21:47
Speaker 1: that's coming from ABC News now because I got, I
21:49
Speaker 1: guess cover their able ass Eric Hirschman is claiming that
21:53
Speaker 1: a handwritten note regarding a potential statement for then President
21:57
Speaker 1: Donald Trump to release during the January sixth stack on
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Speaker 1: the Capitol was written by him during a meeting at
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Speaker 1: the White House that afternoon, and not by White House
22:05
Speaker 1: a Cassie Hutchson's sources familiar with the matter have now
22:08
Speaker 1: confirmed to ABC News Will Bury that though don't worry,
22:12
Speaker 1: because we still want you to think that Donald Trump
22:14
Speaker 1: is a psycho. The reason why Democrats need to paint
22:19
Speaker 1: the presidents of psychos because that's how you lower someone's
22:21
Speaker 1: approval rating, or you justify the taking out of the
22:28
Speaker 1: political opponent, and that is Donald Trump. This whole January
22:31
Speaker 1: sixth committee, and the reason why they're doing it is
22:34
Speaker 1: is two part one to weekend Trump again and to
22:37
Speaker 1: make you think he's a psycho before the elections coming up.
22:41
Speaker 1: It's also to help them in the midterm elections. But
22:43
Speaker 1: it's really about trying to bring him to be indicted
22:48
Speaker 1: for criminal behavior of inciting a riot, because if they
22:53
Speaker 1: can do that, then the guy would be ineligible if
22:55
Speaker 1: he's found guilty of even running for president. This is
22:58
Speaker 1: taking away your rights and taking away your ability to
23:03
Speaker 1: you know, decide who you want to be present. This
23:05
Speaker 1: is what you do now. We've seen in these new
23:07
Speaker 1: polls are out that it's almost split fifty fifty in
23:10
Speaker 1: American In America, with this new AP poll that is out,
23:14
Speaker 1: it says about half say Donald Trump actually should be
23:18
Speaker 1: charged with the crime on January six, which means it's
23:19
Speaker 1: working right. About half of Americans now believe Donald Trump
23:23
Speaker 1: should be charged with a crime for his role in
23:25
Speaker 1: the US capital attack on January six. So even if
23:27
Speaker 1: you have to find a woman to be a psychotic,
23:29
Speaker 1: pathological liar, which is what we're talking about now, where
23:32
Speaker 1: everyone is saying that Cassie Hudson fabricator testimony about a
23:37
Speaker 1: conversation with the former White House counsel, fabricated her testimony
23:41
Speaker 1: right about the conversation that she had with former White
23:46
Speaker 1: House counsel and fabricator testimony about a note that she
23:49
Speaker 1: claims that she wrote, fabricated her story that she was
23:53
Speaker 1: briefed on the present trying to commandeer vehicle, fabricator, story
23:57
Speaker 1: that he tried to choke out a secret Service member.
24:01
Speaker 1: It still has an impact on an ignorant level of
24:06
Speaker 1: the population in this country, right. It still has an
24:09
Speaker 1: impact on people and what they think of the present
24:12
Speaker 1: when they don't hear that all of this is alive
24:16
Speaker 1: from the people that were involved. That's why Cassie Hudson
24:19
Speaker 1: is the newest useful idiot of the Democratic Party. A
24:22
Speaker 1: twenty five now twenty six year old White House aide
24:25
Speaker 1: who was the January sixth Committee's star witness, the twenty
24:28
Speaker 1: five year old junior staffer who said she witnessed a
24:31
Speaker 1: bunch of things that she didn't witness, who said she
24:34
Speaker 1: was briefed on certain things that she wasn't briefed on.
24:37
Speaker 1: That is the problem here. When you have fabrication after
24:41
Speaker 1: fabrication of pieces of her testimony about conversations that she
24:45
Speaker 1: had with different people of the White House, and they're
24:47
Speaker 1: all saying she's lying to you, you would think the
24:49
Speaker 1: media would cover that. They're not going to cover at
24:52
Speaker 1: the same level they told her story because her testimony
24:56
Speaker 1: was all about weakening Donald Trump, not about the truth
24:59
Speaker 1: because during her testimony, Hudson claimed that this White House Council,
25:04
Speaker 1: former White House Counsel, told her to tell her boss,
25:08
Speaker 1: Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, that the former President Donald
25:10
Speaker 1: Trump should not go to the capitol in January the sixth.
25:13
Speaker 1: Hudson testified and said, We're going to get charged with
25:17
Speaker 1: every crime imaginable if Trump goes to the capitol. That's
25:21
Speaker 1: what Hutchinson testified that the White House Council said to her.
25:25
Speaker 1: That never happened. The Committee Vice chair, Let's Chenney doubled
25:29
Speaker 1: down in her calls to get this White House Council
25:31
Speaker 1: testified before the committee due to Hudson's testimony, saying, quote,
25:35
Speaker 1: we as we heard yesterday, White House Counsel had significant
25:39
Speaker 1: concerns are Trump's January six activities. Chenney tweeted out this
25:44
Speaker 1: saying it's time for him to come forward to testify
25:46
Speaker 1: the record. Any concerns he has about the institutional interests
25:50
Speaker 1: of his prior office are outweighed by the need for
25:53
Speaker 1: his testimony. Now, just so you know, this White House
25:57
Speaker 1: Counsel was reportedly not at the White House morning of
26:00
Speaker 1: January the six According to new information that's been leaked
26:06
Speaker 1: kind of hard to actually, you know, brief somebody on
26:09
Speaker 1: what's going on in real time on January six when
26:12
Speaker 1: you're not even in the building. In fact, multiple sources,
26:15
Speaker 1: including one who was at the White House in January six,
26:18
Speaker 1: have said that he was not there in the am
26:22
Speaker 1: when Hudson testified she spoke with him. So there's a
26:25
Speaker 1: problem there with the reporting. It's hard. And again, if
26:29
Speaker 1: the Democrats wanted to fact check any this, they could
26:32
Speaker 1: have done it, but they didn't because they knew they
26:33
Speaker 1: were making up the story. The January sixth Committee is
26:36
Speaker 1: aware of the discrepancy. According by the way to Jack Potsobek,
26:40
Speaker 1: who put this out there, saying they are ignoring the
26:42
Speaker 1: media inquiry about it. It seems that this woman made
26:46
Speaker 1: up the entire conversation. The breaking news tweet that came
26:51
Speaker 1: out about this said, multiple sources, including one who was
26:53
Speaker 1: at the White House in January six, are saying that
26:56
Speaker 1: the White House Council was not there in the am
26:58
Speaker 1: when Hudson testify that she was brief and briefed and
27:02
Speaker 1: spoke with him. The January sixth Committee quote knows and
27:06
Speaker 1: is aware of the discrepancy, and they are ignoring it
27:09
Speaker 1: because they need to make the president look bad. This
27:12
Speaker 1: is all about making the president look bad. The controversy
27:15
Speaker 1: around Hudson's claims about the alleged conversation with the White
27:19
Speaker 1: House Council is the latest blow to her testimony and
27:22
Speaker 1: the January six committee's credibility. Jack Possobik reporting comes one
27:27
Speaker 1: day after a former White House a lawyer disputed Hudson's
27:30
Speaker 1: testimony about a handwritten statement she allegedly wrote. On January
27:34
Speaker 1: the sixth, Hudson again testified that she wrote a statement
27:38
Speaker 1: for Trump to release during the Capitol riot. However, former
27:41
Speaker 1: White House lawyer Eric Hirshman insisted that she did not
27:45
Speaker 1: write that note because he wrote the handwritten note and
27:48
Speaker 1: he presented it to the committee during the Hudson testimony.
27:53
Speaker 1: The handwritten note that Cassie Hudson testified was written by
27:56
Speaker 1: her was in fact written by Eric Hirschman on January sixth,
27:59
Speaker 1: twenty one, Hurtsman's spokesman said, and part of her Hutchinson's
28:05
Speaker 1: testimony also are also at odds with members of the
28:07
Speaker 1: US Secret Service. The most sensationalized aspect of her testimony
28:11
Speaker 1: member She's a Star witness, was that Trump allegedly tried
28:15
Speaker 1: to take control of the presidential suv steering will and
28:18
Speaker 1: shouted excellent as a Secret Service agents when they prevented
28:21
Speaker 1: him from doing so. Shortly after the testimony, two Secret
28:26
Speaker 1: Service agents in the suv that day reportedly confirmed their
28:30
Speaker 1: intent to make statements under oath that would totally contradict
28:34
Speaker 1: Hudson's story. So let's just be clear, every single thing
28:37
Speaker 1: that she has said so far has been a lie,
28:39
Speaker 1: and everything that she says has been contradicted by the
28:42
Speaker 1: people that were at the White House. And she's claiming
28:45
Speaker 1: she had conversations at the White House with people that
28:51
Speaker 1: apparently weren't even in the White House the morning of
28:53
Speaker 1: that when she says the conversation happened, and slowly the
29:00
Speaker 1: media's like, okay, we'll report it, but we're reported after
29:03
Speaker 1: the damage has already been done to Donald Trump, which
29:05
Speaker 1: goes exactly back to what Donald Trump was saying a
29:07
Speaker 1: moment ago in this interview that he was doing. He's like,
29:10
Speaker 1: they're lying about all of this. We know they're lying
29:12
Speaker 1: about it, and yet they continue to move forward with
29:15
Speaker 1: this information because this is what they do. That's why
29:20
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is and honestly, at this point he's pretty
29:23
Speaker 1: darn calm compared to what normal people would be because
29:26
Speaker 1: he's had to deal with us every single day since
29:28
Speaker 1: he ran for president, where they make up and fabricate
29:31
Speaker 1: stories that are just not true. So it's a very
29:35
Speaker 1: sad thing that this is allowed to take place in
29:38
Speaker 1: our country, that somebody can just get there without cross examination,
29:42
Speaker 1: with no Republicans on the committee, which I think was
29:45
Speaker 1: a mistake. I think we should have had Republicans on
29:47
Speaker 1: the committee, and I think they should do something. Is
29:51
Speaker 1: this going to go on forever? Is this going to
29:53
Speaker 1: just keep going on and on? They get one person,
29:57
Speaker 1: they have to ask her, why did you want to
29:59
Speaker 1: go so bad with the Trump organization to Florida? She
30:02
Speaker 1: was all set to go and then we determined that
30:04
Speaker 1: we didn't want her. Do you think those secret Service
30:06
Speaker 1: agents will get the opportunity to test I hope they do.
30:08
Speaker 1: I hope they can testify. I think the woman is
30:13
Speaker 1: she's got serious problems. Let me put it that way.
30:15
Speaker 1: What did you make a fun problems? Yeah? What did
30:17
Speaker 1: you make a Fox News and other video outlets latching
30:20
Speaker 1: onto this story. You know, I heard Brett Beer last
30:22
Speaker 1: night say, well, why would she risk perjury. She could
30:25
Speaker 1: go to jail. And I'm sitting there at home thinking
30:28
Speaker 1: to myself, well, this is a democratic panel. They're not
30:31
Speaker 1: going to charge their own star witness with perjury, even
30:34
Speaker 1: if if it is true. I heard that Brett Bear
30:36
Speaker 1: said that, which is obviously strange. You know, I look,
30:40
Speaker 1: Bret Bear, here is the story. It didn't happen. Other
30:44
Speaker 1: things didn't happen. They said that I encourage people to
30:47
Speaker 1: have guns. I didn't encourage me. I've never spoke to
30:48
Speaker 1: anybody about it. I didn't encourage anybody to have guns.
30:52
Speaker 1: And I'm one of the speakers. I don't want people
30:53
Speaker 1: out there with guns for me either, but I don't want,
30:56
Speaker 1: maybe more importantly, for other people to get hurt. I
30:59
Speaker 1: don't want that to happen. You look at the fact
31:03
Speaker 1: that we had I recommended from ten to twenty thousand
31:06
Speaker 1: troops be there. Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of DC
31:08
Speaker 1: turned it down. All of these things took place, they
31:12
Speaker 1: turned it down. We're not hearing about that during these hearings.
31:15
Speaker 1: They don't even cover it. They refuse to mention it.
31:18
Speaker 1: You'll never see it. You rarely see it in the
31:20
Speaker 1: fake news. Think of it if they put not ten
31:24
Speaker 1: thousand troops or twenty thousand troops, I recommend it between
31:27
Speaker 1: ten and twenty, in front of numerous witnesses, in front
31:30
Speaker 1: of people, and in front of the people that actually
31:31
Speaker 1: do that. So if we would have had not ten
31:35
Speaker 1: thousand troops but five hundred, five hundred tiny proportion of that,
31:40
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have January sixth as it is called. It
31:44
Speaker 1: wouldn't have even existed. There wouldn't have been a problem.
31:47
Speaker 1: They didn't like the look of it. They said, well,
31:49
Speaker 1: we don't like the look of it. And I could
31:51
Speaker 1: feel there was a big crowd forming. It just felt
31:54
Speaker 1: like a lot of people were talking about January sixth.
31:57
Speaker 1: And the thing they don't talk about is the incredible
32:00
Speaker 1: size of the group of people that I spoke to,
32:03
Speaker 1: because I think it was the biggest or certainly one
32:05
Speaker 1: of the biggest groups I've ever spoken before. And I've
32:07
Speaker 1: spoken to big grads like for a few people have
32:10
Speaker 1: spoken to bigger and this was I think at the
32:13
Speaker 1: top of the list, or very close to it. And
32:16
Speaker 1: from there, a small group, relatively speaking, a small group
32:19
Speaker 1: went down to the Capitol. But for this girl to
32:23
Speaker 1: sit there and just I think just makeup stairs. You know,
32:26
Speaker 1: many years ago there was a man named John Lovetts
32:29
Speaker 1: and he did a routine called a liar. Yeah, she
32:32
Speaker 1: should look at it. She should look at it. That's hell.
32:35
Speaker 1: How much of this is about trying to prevent you
32:37
Speaker 1: from running again? I think a lot of twenty four
32:39
Speaker 1: I'm leaving in all this. By the way, listen to this,
32:41
Speaker 1: he just says, and this is the most important question.
32:43
Speaker 1: How much of this about stopping you for twenty twenty four?
32:46
Speaker 1: And Trump says, I'm leading in all the polls. He's right.
32:49
Speaker 1: Listen to his answer. Poles against Republicans and Democrats. I'm
32:53
Speaker 1: leading in the Republican polls at numbers that nobody's ever
32:56
Speaker 1: even seen before. And against Biden and anybody else that
33:00
Speaker 1: they run, I'm leading against them. Now, this is just
33:03
Speaker 1: a way of look at the dishonesty of this committee.
33:07
Speaker 1: They don't talk about any of the things that refute
33:10
Speaker 1: January sixth. And the reason why they don't look at
33:16
Speaker 1: any the things that dispute January sixth is because they
33:19
Speaker 1: know they're making it all up. They know it's all
33:23
Speaker 1: a lie, folks, They know that every bit of this
33:27
Speaker 1: is a lie because they're the ones that fabricated, just
33:31
Speaker 1: like they fabricated not only January the sixth, but they
33:36
Speaker 1: fabricated Russian collusion. They fabricated all of this with Donald Trump,
33:42
Speaker 1: They fabricated Alpha Bank, they fabricated every single bit of it.
33:47
Speaker 1: That's what they fabricated. And we know they fabricated all
33:51
Speaker 1: of it. You could fact check and say, hey, we
33:54
Speaker 1: need to check this girl's story out right to see
33:56
Speaker 1: if she's a legitimate witness, and you could make phone calls.
33:59
Speaker 1: You would have found out in two seconds that she's
34:00
Speaker 1: a liar on all front. She's making it up. I
34:02
Speaker 1: would argue at this point, probably they probably set in
34:05
Speaker 1: a room and said what lies can we come up with?
34:07
Speaker 1: What will you tell us? Because you're angry that you're
34:10
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in, and you want revenge on
34:12
Speaker 1: the Trump administration for maybe you didn't get a job
34:14
Speaker 1: you wanted after the administration left. Who knows, you're twenty
34:16
Speaker 1: five years old. Maybe you got some woke liberal friends
34:19
Speaker 1: that put you up to this. I don't know. I
34:21
Speaker 1: don't really care the motive. What I know is you
34:23
Speaker 1: could have actually done something to stop this insanity, and
34:27
Speaker 1: you didn't, because this is all about making the present weak.
34:32
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the whole thing here. It's about weakening
34:36
Speaker 1: him who cares throw jello at a wall for five
34:40
Speaker 1: six years. At some point something you say is gonna
34:43
Speaker 1: hurt the present and that's their whole goal. If you
34:47
Speaker 1: just step back for a moment from all of this
34:50
Speaker 1: testimony and you ask yourself this question, where are the
34:56
Speaker 1: Republicans and when are we going to start playing at
35:01
Speaker 1: the same level as the Democrats? And what I mean
35:04
Speaker 1: by that is when you lie to Congress and you
35:06
Speaker 1: fabricate things like this, you deserve to go to jail.
35:11
Speaker 1: You know. I look at all of this and what
35:13
Speaker 1: I see is it is very clear that this witness
35:16
Speaker 1: should be charged with lying to Congress, should find herself
35:21
Speaker 1: facing jail time if in fact you're lying. I don't
35:23
Speaker 1: want to put her in jail without there being a fair, right,
35:27
Speaker 1: right system of justice, because I don't want to put
35:29
Speaker 1: political in any means in jail because their political enemies.
35:31
Speaker 1: That's what democrats want to do. That's what socialists and
35:33
Speaker 1: communist and dictators do around the world. But lives Channie
35:37
Speaker 1: January sixth, Star witness should find herself facing jail time
35:42
Speaker 1: if we end up doing an investigation. But where are
35:46
Speaker 1: the Democrats on this one? Virtually everything that she has
35:49
Speaker 1: now said has been disputed as lies. She's lied about
35:53
Speaker 1: the Secret Service. She's lied about a note that she
35:56
Speaker 1: claimed that she wrote, which she didn't write. She's lied
36:00
Speaker 1: about the President apparently trying to strangle and choke out
36:04
Speaker 1: a Secret Service agent. She's lied about him trying to
36:08
Speaker 1: grab the steering wheel. There's all of her bombshell testimony
36:12
Speaker 1: has been declared a lie, all of it. So if
36:17
Speaker 1: all of it has been declared a lie, how is
36:20
Speaker 1: there no accountability for this? How many people, Adam Shift
36:23
Speaker 1: being one of them, have lied in front of Congress
36:25
Speaker 1: knowing they're right. Remember when Adam Shift, for example, this
36:28
Speaker 1: is where Democrats seem to grow up. I mean, excuse me.
36:30
Speaker 1: Republicans need to grow a pair, okay, and stop letting
36:33
Speaker 1: people just screw us over this way and let them
36:37
Speaker 1: keep doing it. Adams Shift should be off every committee
36:39
Speaker 1: and should be kicked out of Congress in my opinion,
36:42
Speaker 1: because he knew when he was selling the American people
36:44
Speaker 1: the impeachment lie. He knew the entire time that it
36:47
Speaker 1: was in fact a lie. He knew the entire time,
36:52
Speaker 1: then it was fabrician. He knew that the Intelligence Service
36:56
Speaker 1: has said this was not plausible, the accusations against Donald Trump,
36:59
Speaker 1: yet he went with it anyway. He lied about all
37:03
Speaker 1: of it, and the reason was because they just wanted
37:06
Speaker 1: to take down Donald Trump no matter what. But if
37:11
Speaker 1: we don't hold them accountable and we don't put them
37:13
Speaker 1: in jail when they commit crimes, which I think clearly
37:17
Speaker 1: crimes have been committed by many of these people in
37:19
Speaker 1: these accusations, and if we don't go after the people
37:22
Speaker 1: that lie in Congress, including congressmen and women who make
37:25
Speaker 1: this stuff up like Adam Schiff, they'll never stop. And
37:30
Speaker 1: this is where Republicans are far too. I'm sorry, they're wooses,
37:35
Speaker 1: you know. You look at Liz Cheney. I think Liz
37:37
Speaker 1: Cheney should be in serious trouble right now in my opinion.
37:40
Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that she should be
37:41
Speaker 1: in trouble is because I have a feeling she knew
37:44
Speaker 1: that this star witness was lying, you know, to her,
37:49
Speaker 1: And if she did know that she was lying in
37:51
Speaker 1: fabricating stories, then if if that's the case, okay, if
37:55
Speaker 1: she does know that they were lying to her, that
37:58
Speaker 1: she was being lied to and that this fabricates. Shouldn't
38:01
Speaker 1: she be held accountable for putting a witness up there
38:03
Speaker 1: which she knew the witness was actually doing this? At
38:07
Speaker 1: what point are we going to say enough? Right? At
38:10
Speaker 1: what point are we going to say? All right? You
38:12
Speaker 1: play the games like this, just know when we bust you,
38:17
Speaker 1: and we will when we bust you, it's game on,
38:22
Speaker 1: because we will bust you. We will absolutely bust you
38:26
Speaker 1: time after time when you do this. Don't think you're
38:30
Speaker 1: gonna get off easy. Don't think that you can just
38:32
Speaker 1: come to Congress and lie to Congress and fabricate stories
38:36
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be no accountability for what you're doing.
38:39
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