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Shelden Williams: Former NBA Player, Proud “Girl Dad,” & Founder of The Shelden Williams Foundation · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: a well known athlete. Let's cope an athlete, because sometimes
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Speaker 1: when you're an athlete, people will just keep you over there.
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Speaker 1: His name is Sheldon Ms, the former NBA Lottery pick
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Speaker 1: and Duke University Hall of Fame player were discussing his
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Speaker 1: career from Oklahoma City to the NBA. In between all
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Speaker 1: that was a little unknown school called Duke University, his
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Speaker 1: life after basketball, and how he inspires to give back
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Speaker 1: to the community. That's really why I wanted on this show.
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Speaker 1: We had a lot of things by athletes, and we
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Speaker 1: only hear one side of the story. The Sheldon Williams
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Speaker 1: Fundation is dedicated to empowering student athletes and their families
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Speaker 1: by delivering and supporting initiatives that provide emotional and physical
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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation for the very first time, the athlete
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Speaker 1: Sheldon Williams how on Shelton. I'm good, good, thanks for
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Speaker 1: having me. All. I emphasized athlete because somehow along the way,
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Speaker 1: you guys get diminished. You get diminished on your ability
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Speaker 1: to communicate, your diminished on your education abilities, your articulation.
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Speaker 1: How do you how do you overcome the athletes stereotype
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Speaker 1: as you move forward in life? Sheltering H Well, it's
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Speaker 1: interesting that you asked that. I mean, until Lebron was
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Speaker 1: probably similar. The most forefront athlete that sit there and say,
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Speaker 1: don't put us in a box. Make sure that we
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Speaker 1: know we are more than what we do, whether we
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Speaker 1: playing football, japan basketball, but more than that. And I
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Speaker 1: think that was the first time that she like say
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Speaker 1: it out loud, I guess, and made it more of
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Speaker 1: a worldly thing. But before then he was always kept
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Speaker 1: in the box like all right, this is what you
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Speaker 1: do and it's pretty much it. So a lot of
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Speaker 1: people now are kind of bringing themselves on the main screen, like, hey,
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Speaker 1: this is what I used to get to this point,
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Speaker 1: but the overall me, this is X, Y and Z,
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Speaker 1: and I try to use my social platform to let
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Speaker 1: people know this is what I do and not just
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Speaker 1: what I did in the past or what you know
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Speaker 1: me asked, this is all me. I I was sharing
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Speaker 1: a little piece of my life, Sheldon, because you know,
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Speaker 1: I a sitcom writer, stand up comedian, did death jam
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Speaker 1: and all that. One of the bigger components in my
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Speaker 1: life was I managed Steve Harvey. And I bring that
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Speaker 1: up because of the fact that you know, we had
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Speaker 1: to ride together like sixteen years and you know when
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Speaker 1: images together, image awards together, and box office movies, family feud,
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Speaker 1: hit books, and when I walked away and started to
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Speaker 1: develop my own career, I kind of was still trapped
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Speaker 1: into that world. And so I bring that up because
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Speaker 1: as an NBA lottery pick and at the highest level
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Speaker 1: that an athlete that can perform, and that is as
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Speaker 1: a basketball player you want to make an NBA How
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Speaker 1: were you able to make that transition because a lot
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Speaker 1: of people kept you in that bottle of being an
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Speaker 1: NBA player or what's going wrong while you're not still
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Speaker 1: playing in the NBA talk to us through that that
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Speaker 1: that that emotional release of trying to build your brand,
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Speaker 1: the Sheldon Weaves brand. Well, that's always kind of a
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say difficult path, it just it's it's a
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Speaker 1: path that you haven't done. Um, because you've been all
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Speaker 1: your life been trying to be this athlete that you
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Speaker 1: inspire to be. Whether you looked up to Michael Jordan
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Speaker 1: or any other guys that play in your your your
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Speaker 1: your position, or your sport. You expire to be those guys.
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Speaker 1: And then once that timeline is pretty much ended, it's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: what do I do now? So hopefully within that one
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Speaker 1: or two years before it does actually in, you kind
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Speaker 1: of started thinking about my next move, my next plan.
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Speaker 1: It's always hard because you always think that this is
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Speaker 1: what's gonna be for a lot of number of years,
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Speaker 1: and it's not always like that. So for me, when
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Speaker 1: I actually started to think about retiring, I wind up
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is what I want to do.
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Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and do something that one
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Speaker 1: keeps me active with my who's now eleven, as well
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Speaker 1: as keep me within the game of basketball. And I
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Speaker 1: was able to unfortunate enough to actually be a scowl
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Speaker 1: broken nets on the West Coast. I did that about
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Speaker 1: three years before I said I want to try my
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Speaker 1: hand into coaching. You be more hands on than actually,
5:19
Speaker 1: you know, kind of being in the back front office site. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, the death of Kobe um, you know, it
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Speaker 1: was still the shock, and I remember I went to
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Speaker 1: l A after his death, and uh it was like
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Speaker 1: ghost town. Man, I've never seen l A, which is
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Speaker 1: like party Central, which is like Glitz, which is glamor,
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Speaker 1: which is uh as they say, Hollywood. And then you
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Speaker 1: mentioned your daughter, you know, daddy's girl. You know, I
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Speaker 1: have a single I'm a father and I have a daughter.
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Speaker 1: So you know the importance of that role that you
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Speaker 1: play and and guy, and I remember, I all, I'm
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Speaker 1: always available for her to have a comment. And then
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Speaker 1: you see what happens to Kobe and that that whole
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Speaker 1: daddy Gore sent doing. God, did you get caught up
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Speaker 1: in there? Did you realize your role that you have
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Speaker 1: and and with your daughter who's loving now? Well, I
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Speaker 1: got caught up in it because one my daughter was
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Speaker 1: actually doing things with uh Gj's team and the team
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Speaker 1: undneath J's team at the Mamba Academy, so she was
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Speaker 1: familiar with both of those you know people, So that happened,
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Speaker 1: it kind of hit a little bit closer. I mean,
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Speaker 1: obviously was sad for anybody to go down like that,
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Speaker 1: whether it be a name, well named person or just anybody.
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Speaker 1: But what really hit me was the girls that were
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Speaker 1: around my my daughter's age, not able to actually live
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Speaker 1: their life and got cut short, and talking to her
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Speaker 1: about it, it really hit home for me. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: dangn like literally, these are somebody that you was actually
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Speaker 1: an academy, my mama charity, practicing with, practice against, and
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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden they're gone, and it's very
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Speaker 1: sad for that to happen. But that right there kind
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Speaker 1: of hit closer to home to me because of the
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Speaker 1: whole girls that were running. My my daughter said, actually
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Speaker 1: round my daughter as well. You know, my bringing my
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Speaker 1: daughter because she was a professional athlete. You know, she
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Speaker 1: was a tennis prodigy, you know, so she was homeschooled
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Speaker 1: and she played on the tennis Tour, professional tendance Tour,
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Speaker 1: and then she blew out her knee and and when
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Speaker 1: she blow I always remember, like the week before Thanksgiving
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Speaker 1: and she asked me, she said, Dad, what do you
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Speaker 1: she Dad, can I Can I do something else? And
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Speaker 1: I said, what you wanna do? She said, I want
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Speaker 1: to go to college. And you've been an athlete, and
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Speaker 1: you know, you just was a gifted athlete, you know,
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Speaker 1: smart guy from Oklahoma City. Like you said, you went
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Speaker 1: from univosity diversity. Do you feel that you were ever
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Speaker 1: pushed along or did anybody ever stop and asked Shelton
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Speaker 1: what he wanted in the early years or you just
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Speaker 1: positioned to be this great athlete and you had no
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Speaker 1: other option. Well, growing up, my dad he played basketball,
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Speaker 1: he played in college as well. But for me and
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Speaker 1: my younger brother, he didn't want us to follow in
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Speaker 1: his footsteps. He wanted to kind of find our own path.
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Speaker 1: Granted my dad six eight my mom is to five eleven,
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Speaker 1: to be in our future. So um, I went from
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Speaker 1: playing baseball, soccer and footballers Oklahoma is a big football
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Speaker 1: stay absolutely and was that as the absolutely you come
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, come on that Oklhoba, come on all right, right,
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Speaker 1: And then I went to basketball, basketball and football all
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Speaker 1: of until my pressing year where I got moved up
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Speaker 1: to the high school teams back home. Myth grade was
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Speaker 1: still junior high, so I was able to do both
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Speaker 1: those things. But honestly, with my dad, he wanted us
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Speaker 1: to find our own path. And then once we actually
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Speaker 1: found our own path, he was, all right, this is
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Speaker 1: what you want to do. Are you sure? All right?
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Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna do this? Then this is what
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Speaker 1: we need to do to get better every year, and
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Speaker 1: he I laid out guidelines for me and my younger
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Speaker 1: brother to follow if you want to be successful in
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Speaker 1: that sport. Well, you know, because we're gonna talk about
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Speaker 1: your foundation. But I'm just kind of getting everybody assists
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Speaker 1: on who you are, you know, your story because the
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Speaker 1: fact that you're a gifted athlete, you know, there are
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Speaker 1: some steps that go through the process that you can
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Speaker 1: get pushed along. I know that. You know, as my
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Speaker 1: daughter got better, you know, specialized coaches are coming around.
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Speaker 1: You know I was, you know, because they wanted to
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Speaker 1: fixes fix her her back hand, you know, fix her serve,
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Speaker 1: you know, fix her groundstrokes and all that. But that's
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Speaker 1: that period and not fast forward show. Yeah, the IMG academies,
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Speaker 1: you have social media. What was the worst thing you
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Speaker 1: had to deal with when you were coming out of
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Speaker 1: high school that the players have to deal with today,
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Speaker 1: you know, because technology has to be with the one
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Speaker 1: thing is the social media or is it? Is it
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Speaker 1: the academies? Is that the the circuits? What is it? Well,
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Speaker 1: for me, I kind of missed that area the era
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Speaker 1: because they didn't come until later on where the old
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Speaker 1: social media platforms and the I m G s was
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Speaker 1: kind of later on in my high school career they
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Speaker 1: kind of kind of made a big time, but when
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Speaker 1: I was actually growing up, if they had any kind success,
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Speaker 1: it was in the front page of newspaper. So we're
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Speaker 1: reading that and then all of a sudden, people circling,
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Speaker 1: you know every time they play, gets you that Hey,
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Speaker 1: you know, you gotta target on your back. So minor
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Speaker 1: compared to what it is with the social media. But
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Speaker 1: if you read the paper, your parents got the paper,
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Speaker 1: and your pictures on the front page of that sports section,
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Speaker 1: people start paying attention to who you are, and then
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your name kind of circulates throughout
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Speaker 1: your whole area and people are trying to come after
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Speaker 1: you from that, you know, because you know, because you know,
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Speaker 1: social media exists now and it's like certain people shouldn't
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Speaker 1: be certain people shouldn't be on social media. You know
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Speaker 1: that to show certain people should be cut off. You know,
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Speaker 1: they Twitter to cut Donald Trump. They need to be
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Speaker 1: cutting some of these athletes. So as you because you're
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Speaker 1: a mentor. Now you're a mentor. You as one of
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Speaker 1: those been there, done that. Uh, the success is part
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Speaker 1: of your resume. Duke University Hall of Famer. What you know?
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Speaker 1: And I would tell you this, Sheldan, I you know,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't a big fan of yours because you're just
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Speaker 1: so good in college and you played for Duke. And
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Speaker 1: I'll just tell you I love you as a man,
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Speaker 1: as a person because Duke was just man. How did
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Speaker 1: you pick Duke? Man? You're in Oklahoma football country? You
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Speaker 1: tea right there, University of Texas is right there. You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, How did you go way over
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Speaker 1: to Duke to play basketball? Well, that's the question that
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Speaker 1: I got asked a lot when I was leaving the
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Speaker 1: state of Oklahoma. Like my h S teammate with the OU,
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Speaker 1: my high school AU teammate with OU, say, they're trying
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Speaker 1: to do at the package deal. You let's go, you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of like you know, Oklahoma boys stay in Oklahoma,
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Speaker 1: which was cool, but you're trying to tell me the
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Speaker 1: best of boat world. Duke acts right and do basketball
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Speaker 1: and you have a chance to go there. Now that's
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Speaker 1: that compare. Like, my dad was a big educator, so
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Speaker 1: education was very high on our list of schools when
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Speaker 1: we actually looking for schools and played for it. So
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Speaker 1: they have the best of both worlds. It didn't compare
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Speaker 1: dude Texas Duke. Oh you it didn't know to school
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Speaker 1: was was this shire to stopped with? Shall stop? It
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Speaker 1: was no comparison, brother, Okay you team maybe oh you
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Speaker 1: no way? Duke exceptional universe Because a lot of people
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Speaker 1: when you when you see a powerhouse like a Duke,
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Speaker 1: you tend to throw him in the pot and forget
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Speaker 1: the academics that comes with the school. Like Dude, tell
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Speaker 1: us about the academic standards that they have there and
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Speaker 1: why Duke is such a strong academic school. Well, the
12:47
Speaker 1: academic standards was, like I said, one of the major
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Speaker 1: reasons why I chose that. Like my dad, as I
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Speaker 1: said before, it was a big educator. So he stressed
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Speaker 1: education on us all the time. With him being a teacher,
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Speaker 1: we had assignments and projects all year round, like whatever
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Speaker 1: we had going on for school, if we didn't have homework,
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Speaker 1: about to yourself sir as a player, you know, when
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Speaker 1: do you start making a conscious decision that is time
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Speaker 1: to move on? When you're an athlete, you know, because
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Speaker 1: that's the hard decision, you know, because of the fact
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Speaker 1: that it's something in some ways you don't plan for
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Speaker 1: an exit. How do you know what? And also the
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Speaker 1: second question is that when did the Sheldon when you
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Speaker 1: foundation get started? Was it doing you're playing days or
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Speaker 1: after you left the plane, after you left the court. Well,
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Speaker 1: it was always in my mind. The Susman's Foundation was
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Speaker 1: always in my mind to do. I just didn't have
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Speaker 1: time to do it because once I got done planned,
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Speaker 1: I had my daughter, you know, the whole off season,
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Speaker 1: so with me playing, my daughter was getting older and
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Speaker 1: was like that in't I come, You're always away And
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Speaker 1: that kind of got to me because like she doesn't
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Speaker 1: understand we're trying to make a living for her. All
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Speaker 1: she sees is that is on a road trip or
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Speaker 1: that's gone for whatever amount of days. That's all she's seeing.
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Speaker 1: So it kind of got to me. That's why I
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Speaker 1: kind of retire a little bit earlier, because I like, nowhere,
16:56
Speaker 1: you're right, some things are more important and you are
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Speaker 1: more important. So I wind up retiring early so I
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Speaker 1: could spend extra time with her. And as I said before,
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Speaker 1: I kind of you know, got into a job where
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Speaker 1: I was still able to do basketball with the West
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Speaker 1: Coast Scouting and then be with her. But kind of
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Speaker 1: going back to the question about the Sheldon Wins Foundation,
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Speaker 1: that was something I had already in mind. It just
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Speaker 1: matter up doing it. So once I retired, I want
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Speaker 1: to say I took about a year before I started
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Speaker 1: doing anything about it because that whole year I took
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Speaker 1: off it, which is me and my daughter, and I
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Speaker 1: was just making sure it I was doing, like no
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Speaker 1: ballet glasses and recitals and you know, all those other
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Speaker 1: things that I didn't think about self doing. But I'm
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Speaker 1: a very front row you know, I'm doing all that stuff, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, just kind of being with her and making
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Speaker 1: up for lost time and everything. But I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do that because one I grew up, my mom was
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Speaker 1: big into doing charity, foundation whatever you wanna call it.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm private type of word. Growing up. When
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Speaker 1: I was doing Rona McDonald House, I was doing the
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Speaker 1: only listen moment meals. Those things were already still in me.
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Speaker 1: It was just a matter of back, you know, no
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Speaker 1: matter of just getting me back into the swing of
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Speaker 1: things and getting the opportunity to actually fully invested myself
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Speaker 1: in doing that and that's why I started showing Metals
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Speaker 1: Foundation about two years ago. Okay, now you said that
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Speaker 1: she The WI Foundation is dedicated to empowering student athletes
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Speaker 1: and their family a boy, delivering and supporting initiatives that
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Speaker 1: promote emotional and physical health. Let's stop right there. I
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Speaker 1: got the physical health. What is the emotional and physical
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Speaker 1: health through sports education and community involvement? Talk to us
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Speaker 1: about that. Well, as you see a lot of kids nowadays,
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Speaker 1: they're dealing with a lot more than I wouldn't said
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Speaker 1: a lot more. I think it's more addressed now than
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Speaker 1: it was back when I played it. Because if you
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Speaker 1: had any kind of situation where off court problems or
18:55
Speaker 1: you know, uh, family issues once you got into court,
18:58
Speaker 1: A lot of coaches already do this, so you can't
19:00
Speaker 1: do it. I'll find that dost that doesn't ever do
19:03
Speaker 1: that now past for all these years, like, hey, I
19:06
Speaker 1: noticed that you're not being yourself. Come over and talk
19:10
Speaker 1: to me. What's going on? You know, getting to that
19:12
Speaker 1: point where you know where you more than just you
19:15
Speaker 1: know in that way, you're a human being, you're a person.
19:19
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I'm tying to what
19:21
Speaker 1: you're doing as well, and talking to you as a
19:24
Speaker 1: human being and not just a person that comes and
19:27
Speaker 1: not just like a factor that comes in and out.
19:30
Speaker 1: You know how it is with sports work, things changed
19:32
Speaker 1: so fluidly, like everybody's coming in and out. I want
19:35
Speaker 1: to make sure that you know that I'm here to talk.
19:38
Speaker 1: This is beyond basketball. It's really important because, like I said,
19:42
Speaker 1: I I can relate to a lot of the things
19:43
Speaker 1: that you're talking about because my wife was with Marke,
19:46
Speaker 1: you know, she she retired, she was practicing atometrists, and
19:51
Speaker 1: she retired so my daughter could travel and make sure
19:54
Speaker 1: that a stranger wasn't tied to my daughter and making
19:57
Speaker 1: sure my daughter was you know, not being is treated physically,
20:01
Speaker 1: because like you're saying, as an athlete, people will push
20:04
Speaker 1: you and guess what, and guess what and and and
20:07
Speaker 1: push you beyond because I see so many stories about
20:10
Speaker 1: tremendous athletes who failed because they were put in the
20:14
Speaker 1: situation they were uncomfortable, and they didn't have mentors, or
20:17
Speaker 1: they refused to tell their parents what was going on
20:20
Speaker 1: out of fear. What made you survive? Because I love
20:24
Speaker 1: the way you keep bringing up your parents this whole conversation,
20:27
Speaker 1: doing this interview were doing, Shelton, you constantly mentioned your parents.
20:32
Speaker 1: That really is the key to you and who you
20:34
Speaker 1: are today, right your parents? Of course, I mean my
20:38
Speaker 1: parents is what made me who I am today and
20:42
Speaker 1: me and my younger brother who I am today, who
20:44
Speaker 1: we are Today's said like, if they wasn't able to
20:47
Speaker 1: steal those things into us, be where we are right
20:52
Speaker 1: now or what we're trying to do, what we're trying
20:53
Speaker 1: to accomplish right now. So it's a big credit to
20:56
Speaker 1: what they did for us growing up, and now it's
20:59
Speaker 1: more so like, hey, you see a person of them
21:02
Speaker 1: in us as we are doing things that we're trying
21:05
Speaker 1: to do later on that life. So I would say, like,
21:08
Speaker 1: you know, me always missing my parents as a reason
21:10
Speaker 1: for that because they played and still are playing a
21:13
Speaker 1: big factor in my life. Now here's the interesting thing
21:17
Speaker 1: about both our lives. We're black men, Sheldon and and
21:22
Speaker 1: I tell people, are you know I gotta go back?
21:24
Speaker 1: You know the George Floyd And like I said, you
21:26
Speaker 1: and I both know that we all are. I can
21:29
Speaker 1: speak for myself. A cop stops me for anything. My
21:33
Speaker 1: flag score. I don't feel comfortable, especially at night. I
21:37
Speaker 1: don't really feel comfortable at all. And so it's that
21:41
Speaker 1: part of the education process that you're talking about, the
21:43
Speaker 1: community involvement process that you're talking about. Trying to develop
21:48
Speaker 1: relationships for a young black man and female young ladies
21:52
Speaker 1: can be able to get through life in sports is
21:54
Speaker 1: just one of the tools that they can get them
21:56
Speaker 1: out of the neighborhood. Have given them positive options because
21:59
Speaker 1: the world sees us for who we are based on
22:02
Speaker 1: the color of our skins. I don't care what anybody says.
22:04
Speaker 1: The color of our skin creates a different conversation. How
22:07
Speaker 1: do you correlate that within your your foundation to Shelton
22:11
Speaker 1: when we foundation Salily, that is a tough be we
22:18
Speaker 1: constantly have to have for people that look like you
22:21
Speaker 1: and men. We have to do every time and it's
22:26
Speaker 1: it's sad to say, but we have to continue to
22:28
Speaker 1: do that. A lot of this stuff, especially this year,
22:31
Speaker 1: has been more and more recorded, seeing you know, going viral,
22:38
Speaker 1: whatever that you're saying or whatever you think it is.
22:40
Speaker 1: It's been going on for decades and decades, but yet
22:43
Speaker 1: we're seeing more and more almost on a daily basis,
22:47
Speaker 1: and a conversation that needs to continue to happen for
22:51
Speaker 1: people that look like us. Has to be a forefront
22:55
Speaker 1: conversation because if you're not blessed and not to come
23:00
Speaker 1: from like rocking from a two parent home right where
23:04
Speaker 1: I was able to have these conversations daily about what
23:08
Speaker 1: to do in these situations. A lot of these kids
23:11
Speaker 1: don't have that, so having somebody actually talk them through
23:14
Speaker 1: these things so they're not another statistic ended up like
23:19
Speaker 1: the people you mentioned, which is sad and safe. But
23:22
Speaker 1: that's how it is for us them nowadays. I know
23:26
Speaker 1: it's you know, because it's because we're having a real
23:28
Speaker 1: conversation now, you know, and I'm not saying we didn't
23:30
Speaker 1: have one earlier, but because of the fact that you
23:33
Speaker 1: and I both know. You know, you know, you're taller
23:36
Speaker 1: black man than me, you know, which means that I
23:40
Speaker 1: do as successful as I have been in my life.
23:43
Speaker 1: I've walked by a white women clutched their bags. I
23:46
Speaker 1: saw them look at me in a manner that I
23:49
Speaker 1: think that they feared that I was gonna do something,
23:52
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm in tailor suits. I've walked into places
23:56
Speaker 1: and people have questioned would I would have looked as
23:59
Speaker 1: to why I'm that facility or why I'm in that restaurant?
24:01
Speaker 1: Or why am I walking down that street? You know?
24:04
Speaker 1: And uh, but with that being said, you know, athletes
24:08
Speaker 1: has always proven to be a vehicle of change, a
24:12
Speaker 1: vehicle of opportunity. But like we also stated with Lebron,
24:17
Speaker 1: he's trying to peel back this. We are only dare
24:21
Speaker 1: to do a service, and that's a physical service. And
24:24
Speaker 1: I feel that's part of what you're trying to do
24:26
Speaker 1: with the Sheldon Williams Foundation. Correct, You're more than delivering
24:30
Speaker 1: a physical service. You're you're you're you're developing people who
24:34
Speaker 1: are taxpayers, who are gonna get education, who are going
24:37
Speaker 1: to make a difference in the community. That seems to
24:40
Speaker 1: be the core of the Sheldon Williams Foundation. Am I correct? Yes,
24:44
Speaker 1: I mean you kind of putty much it on the
24:47
Speaker 1: head for a lot of these youth that I'm trying
24:49
Speaker 1: to help and give back and give opportunities to a
24:52
Speaker 1: lot of undeserving families and people that want to be
24:56
Speaker 1: able to get out of situations that they are in.
25:00
Speaker 1: Right now, I mean you kind of said that already.
25:02
Speaker 1: You being tailor suits me. I already have the conference
25:07
Speaker 1: two strikes against me being tall and black. When I'm
25:11
Speaker 1: walking down the street. You do see those things. And
25:14
Speaker 1: I'm a guy that I'm not necessarily over, you know, joyous,
25:19
Speaker 1: and I'm walking around like if I know you're did
25:21
Speaker 1: something different to her, But if I'm walking around, I'm
25:24
Speaker 1: very very stow it, I said. People will take that
25:28
Speaker 1: as a sign of, you know, I don't know something
25:31
Speaker 1: that makes them afraid, and that couple I've been dealing
25:34
Speaker 1: with from previous day one, and seeing this, I have
25:39
Speaker 1: to actually over like, you know, hey, how you doing
25:41
Speaker 1: over you know, and make myself like, you know, even
25:44
Speaker 1: make make make sure that feel more comfortable, which is
25:47
Speaker 1: sad that I've actually do this. Absolutely, you know, you
25:50
Speaker 1: gotta make them feel more comfortable. You have to change
25:52
Speaker 1: the way you walk, you have to change your tone
25:54
Speaker 1: to make people feel more comfortable. But guess what, You're
25:57
Speaker 1: already comfortable. You know that, you know, like it's saying,
26:00
Speaker 1: I just wanted to just bring that out, you know,
26:02
Speaker 1: because on this show, I try to have honest conversations.
26:05
Speaker 1: You know. You know, you can do a lot of
26:06
Speaker 1: interviews Sheldon and these and these interviews about the success
26:10
Speaker 1: of your career, but we're talking about now and how
26:13
Speaker 1: you have to change lives now. Like you said, a
26:15
Speaker 1: couple of years ago you started to show the Williams Foundation.
26:18
Speaker 1: It's an extension of who you are. Is this the
26:20
Speaker 1: voice of who you are now? Because at one point
26:23
Speaker 1: the voice of who you were was an athlete? Is
26:26
Speaker 1: this your voice now? This is pretty this is pretty
26:30
Speaker 1: much my voice. Part A, Part B. You know, like
26:36
Speaker 1: building up, as you keep growing, you keep balling, right,
26:39
Speaker 1: and that's we as human beings, continue to do so
26:43
Speaker 1: a lot of people, especially before social media, you only
26:46
Speaker 1: see the Wade and then he followed me on social media.
26:50
Speaker 1: You'll see I'm talking about you know, my daughter, uh,
26:54
Speaker 1: social issues. You know, you'll see, like I said, Part one,
26:57
Speaker 1: Part two, Part three, you're seeing a lot of stuff
26:59
Speaker 1: is going on, and that's involving as I involved, as
27:04
Speaker 1: in the person I'm gonna become in the future. But
27:07
Speaker 1: it's always every changing, so you always gonna get something
27:11
Speaker 1: different that you may see a month, you know, a
27:15
Speaker 1: year ago. Every case may be. You will see that
27:19
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be just put into a category of box.
27:23
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna try to help me and try to
27:25
Speaker 1: extend myself and do more things where I'm not gonna
27:29
Speaker 1: be just one category. Okay, let's let's have some fun here.
27:32
Speaker 1: You know you you you know you're farmer Lattery, pick
27:34
Speaker 1: your former NBA player. You're watching games, you know you
27:38
Speaker 1: you know we we see the big three they then
27:41
Speaker 1: put together in Brooklyn. Can they win it all? Can
27:46
Speaker 1: they win it all? Well? The thing, the thing is,
27:50
Speaker 1: until last this past year, Lebron and A D were
27:56
Speaker 1: the first team to win Role the Back when they
27:59
Speaker 1: got for a long time. I mean when Lebron and
28:02
Speaker 1: uh Lebron and uh the Wade and Chris Bosh when
28:06
Speaker 1: they got together, they didn't win Roup the Back. They
28:08
Speaker 1: wait a couple of years before they win their first one.
28:11
Speaker 1: I mean, you have all these different big three as forming.
28:15
Speaker 1: The last time I've seen a big three to form
28:16
Speaker 1: that one brought off the bat was back in Boston
28:19
Speaker 1: when KG, Paul and Real and first formed up. It's
28:25
Speaker 1: difficult to do, especially with guys that demand the ball
28:29
Speaker 1: as much as they did. I know they had a
28:30
Speaker 1: hard lost last night, but I don't really pay attention
28:37
Speaker 1: to that loss, just because, like with me being that dude,
28:41
Speaker 1: a lot of people circle our number are on the
28:45
Speaker 1: calendar to make sure that hey, no matter we were doing,
28:48
Speaker 1: we're gonna get up for this game. And that's how
28:50
Speaker 1: it is for Brooken Nets right now. A lot of
28:52
Speaker 1: people don't get up for that game. So they lost
28:55
Speaker 1: to uh Washington Ridges. But when I say one or
28:58
Speaker 1: two points and is a high scoring game. But until
29:02
Speaker 1: Washington Wisard can continue to do and play like that,
29:05
Speaker 1: that game doesn't really mean it doesn't hold much weight
29:08
Speaker 1: just because they lost. If it's that's the nature of playing.
29:14
Speaker 1: What's sending two games this season? But when you when
29:16
Speaker 1: you talk about playing the game and watching a career
29:19
Speaker 1: and then Sheldon, I look at that their honors or
29:22
Speaker 1: your jersey number and seeing Dupe in the Hall of Famer?
29:25
Speaker 1: What what? What stands out to be the most impressive
29:28
Speaker 1: thing that is happening in your career that you would
29:30
Speaker 1: always go, man, I can't believe that happened to me,
29:32
Speaker 1: because you've gotten them all, you know, Gatorade Award to
29:35
Speaker 1: All American Honors, lottery Pick walked on the stage and
29:39
Speaker 1: recognized in front of thousand people, is one of the
29:41
Speaker 1: top athletes in the world. What what? What? What always
29:44
Speaker 1: brings a smile to your face when you think about
29:46
Speaker 1: it from an athletic standpoint, I'm probably gonna say being
29:51
Speaker 1: able to have the opportunity to have much jersey hung
29:54
Speaker 1: in the raptors of Cameron Or Stadium, being one of
29:57
Speaker 1: thirteen guys. That's a bad raptor there, Christian Dave, that's
30:02
Speaker 1: a bad raptor. That baby gret bred Hill. Come on, now,
30:06
Speaker 1: I know, I know, dude, man of alivating layers that
30:11
Speaker 1: play it. Dude, my name and my jersey will be
30:14
Speaker 1: forever at home in that raptor. So I wouldn't say
30:17
Speaker 1: that's kind of the greatest one is like being a
30:19
Speaker 1: kid out of Oklahoma. I didn't see myself one leaving
30:24
Speaker 1: the state of Oklahoma because at that time I've only
30:27
Speaker 1: seen one player leave to state of Oklahoma play That
30:29
Speaker 1: was Eaton Thomas, who have to go to Syracuse. Everybody
30:33
Speaker 1: stay in the state of Oklahoma. So once I got
30:36
Speaker 1: a chance that actually played for Duke University, yes, my
30:40
Speaker 1: careers are unfolding, and that opportunity become a player that
30:44
Speaker 1: was gonna become and had the opportunity be actually have
30:47
Speaker 1: a jersey return, that was a true blessing because I
30:51
Speaker 1: didn't go in to do thinking that I wouldn't do
30:53
Speaker 1: trying to think, hey, I gotta prove a lot of
30:56
Speaker 1: people wrong from back home in Oklahoma that I can't play,
31:00
Speaker 1: but the biggest and the best of the college basketball.
31:04
Speaker 1: And wow, well Sherlton, thank you for coming on money
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Speaker 1: making conversations. And you're great. You're a great talking boy.
31:12
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying you you you guys the
31:14
Speaker 1: words coming out to your mouth with my friend. You
31:18
Speaker 1: know you have that little laid back, little stoic personality,
31:22
Speaker 1: but you can talk. Man. You got something just like
31:25
Speaker 1: you know, and it continued to make difference. I know
31:27
Speaker 1: that we was connected and an interview long overdue for
31:32
Speaker 1: us to connect. Uh COVID slowdown the relationship or one.
31:37
Speaker 1: You know, we know what COVID is gonna do. From
31:40
Speaker 1: an athletic standpoint, we see, UH how's affecting UH high school,
31:44
Speaker 1: the UH college level and players who who want to
31:47
Speaker 1: go pro, players who want to extend their athletic careers
31:50
Speaker 1: are being cut shorter and they're given an extra year
31:52
Speaker 1: of eligibility. But I know that if you ever need
31:55
Speaker 1: even my man, Sheldon Williams, Sean McDonald's a friend and
31:58
Speaker 1: I'm always there for your brother. And I hope you
32:00
Speaker 1: enjoyed this interview. I appreciate that I did enjoy the
32:04
Speaker 1: n W. I appreciate you having me on. It was
32:06
Speaker 1: great talk, great discussions also. I mean for us to
32:10
Speaker 1: actually talk about not just basketball, but the whole life
32:15
Speaker 1: experience and topics. What's great for me to actually talk
32:18
Speaker 1: to you about it. So thank you so much for
32:20
Speaker 1: having me on. I really appreciate my time. Well, you
32:22
Speaker 1: know the great thing about the Sheldon this that you
32:24
Speaker 1: know me now. You know that you know when we're talking,
32:26
Speaker 1: the future is gonna be a different because you know,
32:28
Speaker 1: coming on and I said hello, a friend saying hello
32:30
Speaker 1: to you, and we're gonna talk about life, man, just life,
32:33
Speaker 1: about making sure you and the brand that you're building
32:36
Speaker 1: now is important and affects millions of people, not just
32:39
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of people, because your brands worldwide and
32:43
Speaker 1: social media allows that to happen. The digital platform allows
32:46
Speaker 1: that to happen. And my job is to make sure
32:48
Speaker 1: that you are blessing to everybody. Because the Sheldon Williams Foundation,
32:52
Speaker 1: like I stated early, is dedicated to empowering student athletes
32:56
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33:05
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