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Historic & Tragic: Democrats Turn Their Backs on Israel, Demand that they Stop Killing Hamas Terrorists · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Kruz, a Senator,
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Speaker 1: This show is a really important show and it's one
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Speaker 1: that I want to say on the front end. I
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Speaker 1: hope people will take this and put it on social
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Speaker 1: media because it's an important issue that you said, we
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Speaker 1: need to dedicate an entire episode two, and that is
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Speaker 1: talking about what's going on with Israel and the Democratic
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Speaker 1: Party going after them.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. We are here at a momentous time.
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Speaker 2: The Democrat Party is turning hard against the State of Israel.
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Speaker 2: The White House is turning hard against Israel. Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: personally is turning hard against Israel. The media is turning
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Speaker 2: hard against Israel. We are seeing an historic pivot away
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Speaker 2: from our enormous friend and ally in the Middle East,
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Speaker 2: the state of Israel. And that is consequential. It is
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Speaker 2: consequential for Israel, It is consequential for Hamas, it is
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Speaker 2: consequential for Hesbla, it is consequential for Iran, it is
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Speaker 2: consequential for the entirety of the Middle East, is consequential
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Speaker 2: for the world. And what is striking while the White
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Speaker 2: House is actively undermining and abandoning Israel, every Democrat in
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Speaker 1: something that was said at the White House today from
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Speaker 1: White House pres saretery Is Jean Pierre, and she said,
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Speaker 1: we know how to deal with terrorists now, and we're
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Speaker 1: going to tell Israel what they need to do. Here
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Speaker 1: is the new idea.
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Speaker 3: We believe there has to be alternative ways to deal
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Speaker 3: with hamas in Gaza, as we're specifically in Rafa, a
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Speaker 3: military operation that we believe is not the way to
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Speaker 3: move forward. There is a active conversations happening with the
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Speaker 3: Israeli government and obviously our government, and I think that's important.
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Speaker 1: Senator, I'm going to take the bait. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: ask you the question, how is there an alternative and
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Speaker 1: what is an alternative way to deal with actual terrorists
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Speaker 1: that say they want to annihilate you and from the
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Speaker 1: river to the sea they want you to all be dead.
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Speaker 2: Well, let me give you the non alternative way. The
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Speaker 2: non alternative way is to kill them, is to eliminate Hamas.
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Speaker 2: To kill the terrorists, To kill the people that murder
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Speaker 2: twelve hundred israelis to kill the people that murdered over
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Speaker 2: thirty Americans, To kill the people that raped little girls
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Speaker 2: and raped women, To kill the people that burned babies alive,
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Speaker 2: that burn infants to kill the vicious anti Semitic, anti Israel,
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Speaker 2: anti America terrorists that pledged to murder as many of
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Speaker 2: us as possible. That's the non alternative ways. Now, let
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Speaker 2: me just ask you a question, Ben, What the hell
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Speaker 2: is she talking about? There's an alternative way to deal
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Speaker 2: with Hamas terrists? I don't know. Maybe we sit down
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Speaker 2: in a circle with them, we hug them, we put
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Speaker 2: little robes on them, we put flowers in our hair,
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Speaker 2: we sing Kumba y'ah. Maybe that's the way to do it.
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Speaker 2: Like what idiocy is this? These are psychopathic, homicidal, genocidal maniacs.
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Speaker 2: And here's the problem. You know what, There's an alternative
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Speaker 2: way to do deal with is left wing democrat activists
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Speaker 2: that the White House is terrified about. And so what
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Speaker 2: are they doing. They're abandoning Israel. Let me say, Israel
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Speaker 2: is exactly right. They should eliminate Hamas and every jumos
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Speaker 2: terrists they eliminate is saving the lives of Israelis, and
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Speaker 2: it's saving the lives of Americans. That is a statement
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Speaker 2: I want you to understand. Let's say you're a Democrat
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Speaker 2: at home. Look, we don't have a ton of Democrats
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Speaker 2: that listen to this podcast. But I actually think we
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Speaker 2: have some we try on this podcast. By the way,
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Speaker 2: I encourage people all the time when I talk to
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Speaker 2: high schools, when I talk to colleges, when I talk
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Speaker 2: to people that are non partisan, I say, listen, you
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Speaker 2: want to know what's going on in the world. Here's
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Speaker 2: part of the problem. The media is all biased, it's
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Speaker 2: all partisan, it's all ideological. So if you only listen
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Speaker 2: to see an n or MSNBC, you'll only get part
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Speaker 2: of the news. And by the way, if you only
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Speaker 2: listen to Fox News or Newsmax or write a center media,
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Speaker 2: you'll only get part of the news. What I do
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Speaker 2: is I try to listen across the spectrum. So what
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Speaker 2: I encourage people to do is I tell high school kids,
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Speaker 2: in college kids this, I said, I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 2: Take a month listen to every episode of Verdict, and
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Speaker 2: then also that same month, listen to every episode of
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Speaker 2: some left wing podcasts. I don't care, Pod Save America,
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Speaker 2: some you know, I don't know, whatever comedy piece. There
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Speaker 2: are enough of them out there. You can pick something
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Speaker 2: of them. Yeah, but listen to both sides. And I
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Speaker 2: don't know if anyone has ever taken me up on
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Speaker 2: that request, but I hope they have. I hope they're
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Speaker 2: listening to both sides. So if you're a Democrat listening
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Speaker 2: to this, I want you to ask yourself, do you
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Speaker 2: think America should stand with Israel? And if we should,
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Speaker 2: what do you think is the quote alternative way to
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Speaker 2: deal with Hamas terrorists. I don't know of any other
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Speaker 2: way other than the way Israel is trying to do,
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Speaker 2: which is to eliminate them, to defeat them, to kill them.
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Speaker 2: But apparently the Biden White House has something else in mind.
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Speaker 1: You see, I've got like seven different questions for you center,
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Speaker 1: I've been wanting to ask you all day, so I'm
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Speaker 1: just going to go through a couple of them quickly.
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Speaker 1: Number one. When I heard this, I was angry, but
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Speaker 1: then I said, Okay, what is the alternative? It sounds
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Speaker 1: like and this is one way you could take it.
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Speaker 1: She's now saying you need to negotiate with terrorists that
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Speaker 1: actually have hostages right now, That's what it seems like
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Speaker 1: she's saying. And I thought America's foreign policy was we
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Speaker 1: don't actually negotiate with terrorists they have Americans, by the way,
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Speaker 1: that they're still holding hostage right now as well. So
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Speaker 1: then the second question I have for you Center is this,
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Speaker 1: how much money are we supposed to give them? Because
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming if there's an alternative way to deal with Hamas,
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Speaker 1: that means, Okay, we're going to bribe you. Am I wrong?
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Speaker 2: You're not entirely wrong, but you don't have anywhere near
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Speaker 2: close to the scope of it. Sadly, let me tell
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Speaker 2: you what the Biden White House means. The alternative way
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Speaker 2: to deal with them is Number one, allow them to live,
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Speaker 2: allow them to prosper, allow them to succeed. Do not
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Speaker 2: kill the terrorists who murdered Israelis. Do not kill the
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Speaker 2: terrorists who murdered Americans, do not kill the terrorists who
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Speaker 2: raped little girls and raped women. Do not kill the
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Speaker 2: terrorists who murdered infants. But they also it's not just
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Speaker 2: don't kill them, give them a state.
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Speaker 1: Reward them.
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Speaker 2: Remember the White House is trying to say the reward
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Speaker 2: for October seven should be a two state solution. The
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Speaker 2: two states should be create a Palestinian state. By the way,
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Speaker 2: they had a two state solution. Gaza was run by Hamas.
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Speaker 2: Israel was not in Gaza. They were in control of it.
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Speaker 2: It's a popular talking point on the left. Oh, it
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Speaker 2: was an open air concentration site. What utter imbecility. The
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Speaker 2: Palestinians ran the Gaza strip, they were in charge of it.
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Speaker 2: The Israelis weren't there. They could do it whatever they wanted.
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Speaker 2: The reason it was a hell hole is because Hamas
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Speaker 2: ran it. And by the way, Hamas ran it because
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Speaker 2: when the Palestinians had elections, the Palestinians voted for Hamas.
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Speaker 2: So at some level, listen, Hamas has wreaked havoc and
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Speaker 2: suffering and misery on the Palestinian people, But at some
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Speaker 2: level a majority of them bear responsibility for that because
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Speaker 2: when they went to the polls and voted, they said, yeah,
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Speaker 2: the psycho terrorists, that's who we want running things. Now,
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Speaker 2: here's what Biden is saying. Because you engage in one
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Speaker 2: of the worst act of mass murder of Jews, in fact,
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Speaker 2: the single worst mass murder of Jews in a day
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Speaker 2: since Holocaust, Because you engage in horrific terrorism, because you
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Speaker 2: murder over thirty Americans, We're going to reward you and
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Speaker 2: expand your territory and give you control and give you
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Speaker 2: power and elevate you and treat you as a statesman.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, in about a year, they'll give
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Speaker 2: you the Nobel Peace Prize as a psychotic terrorist. That's
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Speaker 2: what they mean. By a different way is literally, we
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Speaker 2: will show every terrorist in the world you want what
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Speaker 2: you want, commit horrific acts of mass murder, and get
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Speaker 2: the idiots and the press and the pacifistic, appeasing, cheese
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Speaker 2: eating surrender monkeys of the Democrat Party to give you
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Speaker 2: what you want. And all you need to do is
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Speaker 2: murder and rape enough people and they'll give you exactly
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Speaker 2: what you want.
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Speaker 1: You know, let's go back to when this attack happened,
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Speaker 1: because I will give credit in that moment. Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: publicly was very clear that we were standing behind Israel,
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Speaker 1: but the machine behind Joe Biden very clearly came out.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get ahead of him and say no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: we actually don't. We're calling on Israel to not retaliate
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Speaker 1: even against their nine to eleven that happened, that the
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Speaker 1: most Jews have been massacred since the Holocaust, for goodness sakes,
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Speaker 1: and you called out quickly. Remind you we've talked about
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Speaker 1: on the show before. But if people may be listening
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Speaker 1: the show for the first time because they've seen on
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Speaker 1: social media where people have been posting this about Israel.
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Speaker 1: I want to remind them in the hours after the attack,
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Speaker 1: what our government, the machine behind Biden, was doing.
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Speaker 2: Within hours of the attack, on October seventh, while people
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Speaker 2: we're still being murdered, while the bodies were still warm,
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Speaker 2: the Biden State Department, the Office of Palestinian Affairs, tweeted
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Speaker 2: out a tweet that said Israel should not retaliate, do
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Speaker 2: not respond with violence, do not respond with warfare. Essentially
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Speaker 2: roll over and allow mass murder to happen in your country,
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Speaker 2: and do nothing now. At three in the morning that night,
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Speaker 2: I called that out, announced it, and within hours they
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Speaker 2: retracted the tweet. They deleted it. Then the next day,
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Speaker 2: Tony Blincoln, the Secretary of State, did the same thing.
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Speaker 2: He said, I just talked with the Turkish foreign Minister
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Speaker 2: and we agreed there should be an immediate cease fire.
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Speaker 2: The one thing that is critical is Israel should not
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Speaker 2: kill any terrorists. He didn't quite say that, but that's
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Speaker 2: essentially what he said. I responded again within hours saying
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Speaker 2: this is disgraceful, this is shameful, and again the State
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Speaker 2: Department deleted the tweet. So understand, in forty eight hours,
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Speaker 2: they sent out two anti Israel Prohamas tweets. In forty
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Speaker 2: eight hours, I called him both out, and in forty
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Speaker 2: eight hours they deleted them both. Early on, when Biden
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Speaker 2: would get in the front of a camera and talk,
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Speaker 2: his actually talking points were pretty good because listen, Biden
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Speaker 2: is from an older generation of Democrats that they actually
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Speaker 2: said we should stand with Israel, and Biden is what
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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty two years old. He probably still
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Speaker 2: thinks he's in the nineteen eighties. He re peeded those
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Speaker 2: old talking points. Here's the problem. Biden has filled his
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Speaker 2: White House, He's filled his State Department, He's filled his
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Speaker 2: administration with rabid leftist anti Israel, anti Semites. They hate Israel,
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Speaker 2: they believe Israel is an illegitimate occupying force. They believe
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Speaker 2: the Palestinians, they believe the Hamas terrorists are noble freedom fighters,
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Speaker 2: and they side with Hamas. I'm not exaggerating. And by
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Speaker 2: the way, we've had, among other things, white House interns
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Speaker 2: protesting State Department in turns protesting. Let me be clear,
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Speaker 2: in any sane White House, listen, if I'd been elected
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Speaker 2: president of twenty sixteen, and the White House returns protests
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Speaker 2: the day they protested with the day they lost their
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Speaker 2: White House badge and they left the White House. The
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Speaker 2: idiocy of they've hired these twenty year old radicals who
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Speaker 2: hate Israel. They have been taught from their Marxist professors
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Speaker 2: Israel is a colonialist oppressor. And I got to say
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Speaker 2: Biden's rhetoric from a yester year of the Democrats saying
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Speaker 2: we stand with Israel to the young, angry leftist made
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Speaker 2: no sense. And let me say to people listening to this,
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Speaker 2: if you're a Democrat, if you're a centrist, but you
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Speaker 2: do support Israel, ask yourself, is there room left in
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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party for theirs views? I don't see a
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Speaker 2: whole lot of it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, well, And that brings me to what's
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Speaker 1: happening now. Clearly, the people around Joe Biden have said
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Speaker 1: to him over and over and over and over again
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Speaker 1: that he needs to quiet down on his public support
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Speaker 1: of Israel. And the White House was asked about that.
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Speaker 1: John Kirby was asked about it, and here's how it
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Speaker 1: went down. When Peter Deucey asked him at the White
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Speaker 1: House Press briefing US one. Then where is President Biden
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Speaker 1: on any of this? When he wants to talk about
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Speaker 1: how angry he is or frustrated he is about the
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Speaker 1: high cost of insulin, he comes out and gives an
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Speaker 1: impassioned speech.
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Speaker 4: Where does he on any of this?
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Speaker 5: He's been talking about this, He's been issuing statements on us. No,
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Speaker 5: that's statement. The last I looked was public.
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Speaker 6: But where is he?
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Speaker 1: Why isn't he here right now?
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Speaker 5: I'm sure you'll continue to hear from the President about
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Speaker 5: this and many other national securities.
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Speaker 1: We gotta wrap up. I love that you heard John
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Speaker 1: here in the background. We got to wrap this up.
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Speaker 1: We gotta wrap this up right now. Actions speak louder
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Speaker 1: than words, right, So if the President has some words
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Speaker 1: on a page about Israel, that says something, but he's
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Speaker 1: not saying anything publicly. It's very clear now that the
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Speaker 1: White House has turned basically a one eighty and the
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Speaker 1: UN vote from a week ago was a lot of proof.
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Speaker 1: But now the White House is publicly not supporting Israel.
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Speaker 2: Listen, the UN vote from a week ago was I
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Speaker 2: believe orchestrated by the Biden administration. They want the United
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Speaker 2: Nations to condemn Israel. They want the United Nations to
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Speaker 2: call for an immediate cease fire. And let's be clear.
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden yesterday talked with Benjamin et Ya, who they
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Speaker 2: put out a press that they put out a readout
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Speaker 2: of the call and they said Biden Deman did an
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Speaker 2: immediate ceasefire. Understand, the President of the United States is
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Speaker 2: telling Israel stop killing Hamas terrorists. Now that is their position,
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Speaker 2: that you cannot kill any more terrorist. Why and listen,
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Speaker 2: it's not a national security reason. It's not a reason
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Speaker 2: that supports israel security. It's not a reason that sports
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Speaker 2: America's security. The reason is domestic politics. The angry left
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Speaker 2: wing Democrat Party, the anti Semites, and let's be clear,
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Speaker 2: they hate Israel and they hate Jews. And by the way,
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Speaker 2: I got to say, there are a lot of Jewish
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Speaker 2: Democrats right now in this country who are facing an
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Speaker 2: existential crisis because they have been Democrats, many of them
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Speaker 2: their entire lives. They vote Democrat. And yet they're seeing
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Speaker 2: people in the Democrat Party who despise Israel. And let's
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Speaker 2: be clear, who despised Jews. Listen. In the Marxist worldview,
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Speaker 2: as you know, in my book Unwoke, How to Defeat
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Speaker 2: Cultural Marxism in America, I described the cultural Marxist view
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Speaker 2: the world into oppressors and victims, and the leftists, the
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Speaker 2: leftists at universities, the anti Semits at universities, they define Jews,
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Speaker 2: not Israelis Jews. If you are Jewish in America, if
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Speaker 2: you are Jewish in Israel, if you're Jewish anywhere in
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Speaker 2: the world, the Marxists define you as an oppressor. You
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Speaker 2: are white, you are a capitalist, you are wealthy, you
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Speaker 2: are an oppressor. That is their worldview. And by the way,
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Speaker 2: if you're not, they think you probably want to be,
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Speaker 2: so you're an oppressor too. And they define Palestinians, all Palestinians,
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Speaker 2: and especially Hamas terrorists, as victims. And the cultural Marxist
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Speaker 2: support the violent, aggressive revolution of the so called victims
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Speaker 2: against the so called oppressors. And so the leftists and
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Speaker 2: the Marxists are celebrating when Hamas murders Israelis, when Hamas
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Speaker 2: murders Americans, the leftists and the Democrat Party are celebrating.
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Speaker 2: And this is what Joe Biden, this is what Chuck Schumer,
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Speaker 2: and sadly, this is what every Democrat and House member
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Speaker 2: on the Democrat side in the Senate and House are supporting.
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Speaker 2: And let me ask you this, so Ben, you're you're
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Speaker 2: a very sophisticated political observer. Have you seen a single Democrat,
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Speaker 2: a single Democrat member of the House, single Democrat member
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Speaker 2: of the Senate, call out and denounce Joe Biden this
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Speaker 2: White House for undermining Israel, for supporting Hamas and for
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Speaker 2: demanding that Israel stop killing Hamas terrorists.
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Speaker 1: No, and not only that, to put it in perspective,
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Speaker 1: with a passing of Joe, have.
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Speaker 2: You've seen a reporter ask a Democrat that hold on, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: The answer is no, I haven't seen it either. Have
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Speaker 2: you seen one Democrat ask I'm sorry, one reporter ask
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Speaker 2: a Democrat that I haven't. I literally have not seen
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Speaker 2: a single Democrat senator, a single Democrat House member asked
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Speaker 2: that in a normal, insane world, there are five hundred
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Speaker 2: and thirty five members of the Senate and the House,
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Speaker 2: every one of us, myself included, should be at Now.
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Speaker 2: My answer, that's easy.
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Speaker 1: You asked me.
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Speaker 2: Do I support it? Hell no, I think it is
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Speaker 2: corrupt and evil and profoundly anti Israel. That's my answer. Now,
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Speaker 2: let's start with the remaining four hundred and thirty four.
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Speaker 2: Let them get their answers on record.
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Speaker 1: There's also something else that's been happening. And early on
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Speaker 1: you saw some members of the squad, the aocs, Rashida Leibs,
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Speaker 1: the more extreme socialists in the Democratic Party. They were
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Speaker 1: anti Israel from day one. But we saw a shift
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Speaker 1: this last week. And I want you to hear what
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren had to say, of course, coming from Cambridge, Massachusetts,
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Speaker 1: she goes on CNN and this is what she had
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Speaker 1: to say about Net and Yahoo.
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Speaker 7: You talk about Netnahoo needing to be held accountable and
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Speaker 7: things that need to happen now. Last month you joined
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Speaker 7: a group of Democratic senators basically asking Joe Biden to
18:52
Speaker 7: leverage weapon sales to Israel to pressure Netnyah who to
18:56
Speaker 7: change tactics in Gaza. We know the administration is set
18:59
Speaker 7: to light a huge sale worth upwards of eighteen billion
19:02
Speaker 7: dollars to Israel, having to do with a slew of
19:05
Speaker 7: F fifteen fighter jets. Do you Congress can take action
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Speaker 7: now to have a say in that. Do you want
19:13
Speaker 7: Congress to move to block that sale?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think it is clear that Congress has a
19:22
Speaker 4: responsibility to act. We have legal tools here, and as
19:27
Speaker 4: I said, we cannot approve the sale of arms to
19:31
Speaker 4: a country that is in violation of our own laws
19:35
Speaker 4: on this, and that includes access to humanitarian relief. This
19:41
Speaker 4: is a moral question, it is also a legal question.
19:45
Speaker 4: Congress has responsibility here, and I'm willing to take that responsibility.
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Speaker 7: Talk to me more about that, because I've heard a
19:52
Speaker 7: lot of kind of conversations around possibly considering legislation to
19:57
Speaker 7: step in. Will are you considering or will you be
20:01
Speaker 7: putting forward legislation if that's the right term when it
20:03
Speaker 7: comes to this to kind of start this process of
20:07
Speaker 7: blocking the sale.
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Speaker 4: So, actually, let's let's put this in a slightly different context.
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Speaker 4: We already have an established US policy here.
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Speaker 7: How do you make the president not doing like this?
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Speaker 4: That's I think the best we can do here is
20:27
Speaker 4: that we need to all be working together, and that's
20:30
Speaker 4: the President, that's people in Congress. And I am hopeful
20:35
Speaker 4: that when the President talks with Prime Minister net Miyahu,
20:39
Speaker 4: he will be making it clear that support for the
20:42
Speaker 4: actions of the Prime Minister are not He's not helping Israel,
20:47
Speaker 4: he is not keeping Israel safe. And that he cannot
20:51
Speaker 4: cannot continue to follow a policy of trying to starve
20:55
Speaker 4: out the people of Gaza Center.
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Speaker 1: Not just as he's saying no more aid, military aid
21:02
Speaker 1: to protect him from the terrace. She then accuses net
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Speaker 1: and Yahoo of quote trying to starve out the people
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Speaker 1: of Gaza And that's her last point that she makes
21:12
Speaker 1: there on CNN, and CNN set her up perfectly for this.
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Speaker 2: CNN wants to tell you that. And by the way,
21:19
Speaker 2: you and I did a podcast a couple of months
21:21
Speaker 2: ago that I think is a really important podcast. If
21:23
Speaker 2: you didn't listen to it, you got to go back
21:25
Speaker 2: and listen to it. Even better, you got to watch
21:27
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21:30
Speaker 2: and it was entitled CNN as Hamas's air Force. So
21:33
Speaker 2: is MSNBC, so is ABC. CNN is acting as propagandists
21:37
Speaker 2: for Hamas. With that, and sadly, a United States Senator,
21:41
Speaker 2: my colleague, Elizabeth Warren was elected the same day I was,
21:44
Speaker 2: in November of twenty twelve. She served twelve years, just
21:47
Speaker 2: like I have. And but you know what, she was
21:50
Speaker 2: a professor at Harvard Law School, my alma mater where
21:52
Speaker 2: I went, and Harvard Law School is a pit of
21:55
Speaker 2: rabid leftist, often Marxist thought, and we have seen it
22:01
Speaker 2: festers anti Semitism. There's a reason Clauding Gay, the president
22:05
Speaker 2: of Harvard, was forced to resign. There's a reason Harvard
22:07
Speaker 2: has seen their applications plummet because the left despises Israel.
22:15
Speaker 2: In her comments, Israel's not trying to starve at anyone.
22:18
Speaker 2: That is grotesque, that is dishonest, that is false. But
22:22
Speaker 2: understand the angry lefties who are Elizabeth Warren's base, hate hate,
22:29
Speaker 2: hate Israel. They're not neutral, they're not ambiguous, they're not fair,
22:34
Speaker 2: they're not objective. They cheer when pro Palestinian and pro
22:41
Speaker 2: Hamas protesters chant from the river to the sea, what
22:44
Speaker 2: is from the river to the sea mean? It means literally,
22:47
Speaker 2: we should annihilate Israel. There should be no Jewish state
22:50
Speaker 2: on the face of the planet. That the only thing
22:53
Speaker 2: in the land that is now Israel should be a
22:55
Speaker 2: new Palestinian state where apparently Jews are not welcome. That
23:00
Speaker 2: is the view of the radicals, And sadly, Elizabeth Warren
23:04
Speaker 2: is not an outlier. Rashida Talib is not an outliner.
23:07
Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar is not an outlier. AOC is not an outlier.
23:11
Speaker 2: Their views are reflected by Chuck Schumer and by Joe Biden.
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Speaker 2: This is the so called mainstream Democrat party. They have decided.
23:20
Speaker 2: They've looked at the political landscape and they said, oh crap,
23:23
Speaker 2: the crazy lefties are our base. We need them to
23:26
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23:32
Speaker 2: that makes me incredibly sad because it's dangerous. It's dangerous
23:36
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Speaker 1: account today, Senator, I also want to ask you something else,
25:34
Speaker 1: and this seems to be becoming a much bigger political issue.
25:42
Speaker 1: There's reporting now that the First Lady, Joe Biden, is
25:45
Speaker 1: urging the president privately. They've leaked this obviously so it,
25:48
Speaker 1: you know, to make it look like this is really
25:51
Speaker 1: a big issue behind closed doors. Apparently she's urging the
25:54
Speaker 1: president privately to end the war in Gaza. Stop stop
25:57
Speaker 1: it now. Is the quote that has quote been lead.
26:01
Speaker 1: You also have John Kirby saying he won't clarify if
26:06
Speaker 1: Joe Biden wants to cease fire before or after Hamas
26:10
Speaker 1: releases hostages. This happening at the White House as well.
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Speaker 1: Listen and we'll clarify on the.
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Speaker 2: Ceasefire language that other president used.
26:19
Speaker 1: The statement, he says that.
26:23
Speaker 2: That there should be a cease fire, and then the
26:27
Speaker 2: next after commites, he urged Prime Minister and power negotiators
26:31
Speaker 2: to conclude a deal without delay. So are the two
26:34
Speaker 2: tied together, or is he saying ceasefire right now and
26:37
Speaker 2: then the other thing later. I mean, what how immediate
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Speaker 2: is A mean?
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Speaker 5: I can't really improve upon the president's language.
26:43
Speaker 4: We don't.
26:44
Speaker 5: We want to see a pause in the fighting. We
26:45
Speaker 5: want to see a cease fire immediately so that we
26:50
Speaker 5: can get more humanitarian assistance in and create a set
26:54
Speaker 5: of conditions where EID organizations feel better about operating inside
27:01
Speaker 5: GOSA because as we've already seen it as a result
27:04
Speaker 5: of the attack on the WCK workers that some aid
27:08
Speaker 5: organizations now are pulling back. So we want to see
27:11
Speaker 5: that immediacy's fireplace. We also, of course, as we've said
27:14
Speaker 5: many times, I think that that could also provide a
27:17
Speaker 5: window here to get the hostages out.
27:19
Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you so much, Thank you, Centater. It seems
27:21
Speaker 1: to me we don't know what the foreign policy is
27:25
Speaker 1: anymore of America with Israel and our ally in Israel,
27:29
Speaker 1: because they can't figure out the politics of how to
27:32
Speaker 1: play this in an election year, and they're worried about
27:35
Speaker 1: losing younger voters, so they're trying to play both sides
27:37
Speaker 1: at the bare minimum. But we also could be witnessing
27:41
Speaker 1: for the first time in my lifetime, an actual policy change,
27:45
Speaker 1: with Israel maybe not being our great ally in the Middle.
27:48
Speaker 2: East, how hard would it be for the President of
27:51
Speaker 2: the United States to stand up and say, Hamas needs
27:55
Speaker 2: to release the hostages now. Every American it is a
28:00
Speaker 2: hostage should be released now. Every Israeli that is a
28:04
Speaker 2: hostage should be released now. Every woman that you are
28:08
Speaker 2: raping right now should be released today. And if you don't,
28:14
Speaker 2: we will hunt you down, we will destroy you, we
28:18
Speaker 2: will kill you. That's what a commander in chief who
28:21
Speaker 2: was defending Americans. How would you feel if it was
28:25
Speaker 2: your family, If it was your mom, if it was
28:27
Speaker 2: your sister, if it was your daughter, if it was
28:30
Speaker 2: your son or father or brother who was trapped in
28:34
Speaker 2: hell being brutalized day after day after day. Look, I've
28:39
Speaker 2: spoken with the families of these hostages. Some of them
28:42
Speaker 2: been released, some of not. The agony they're feeling in
28:45
Speaker 2: this White House, you know what, I sat on the
28:48
Speaker 2: floor of the House and listened to it, tired State
28:50
Speaker 2: of the Union address. I don't remember Joe Biden standing
28:53
Speaker 2: up and saying Hamas, release the hostages now, or face
28:58
Speaker 2: the holy fear of the United States of America. He
29:01
Speaker 2: didn't say that, because you know what, his angry leftist
29:05
Speaker 2: base would be mad at.
29:06
Speaker 1: That senat you. And I want to go back in
29:10
Speaker 1: time because it's amazing how quick people forget about what
29:13
Speaker 1: happened on that day. I've met with the Israeli government independently.
29:18
Speaker 1: You've obviously met with them and representatives countless times. You
29:23
Speaker 1: watched a long version of the atrocities of that day.
29:28
Speaker 1: I have seen more than I wanted to, but I
29:31
Speaker 1: think it was important with the platform that I have
29:36
Speaker 1: to be an advocate for Israel to see it and
29:38
Speaker 1: witness it, and I saw it much more recently. I
29:42
Speaker 1: can't get those images out out of my head, just
29:46
Speaker 1: how orchestrated, how barbaric, how evil the people were that
29:52
Speaker 1: were doing these things to As we talked about children,
29:57
Speaker 1: to the elderly, the elderly, it has somewhat been overlooked.
30:01
Speaker 1: And I was watching some of this, and you watch
30:04
Speaker 1: these elderly people. Not only were they killing the grandfathers
30:09
Speaker 1: and great grandfathers in front of the great grandmothers and
30:12
Speaker 1: their kids and grandkids, but they were ripping them away
30:16
Speaker 1: and then taunting because they were going to go after
30:19
Speaker 1: the women. And this was all caught on video, and
30:23
Speaker 1: yet no one seems to be reminding people that those
30:27
Speaker 1: are the hostages that are still being held captive right now.
30:31
Speaker 2: They are, And where is America? Where is the president?
30:37
Speaker 2: Where is a Democrat calling for the release of the
30:40
Speaker 2: American hostages? By the way, these are not many of
30:43
Speaker 2: them are Israelis, but there are multiple American hostages that
30:48
Speaker 2: this White House A wall doesn't even begin. It's worse
30:52
Speaker 2: than a wall. If they were silent, that would be disgraceful.
30:57
Speaker 2: But they're not silent. They're telling Israel stop trying to
31:00
Speaker 2: kill the terrorists. Instead, reward the terrorist and give them
31:04
Speaker 2: a nation state that is stronger than it was before
31:07
Speaker 2: and in a better position to wage war with Israel
31:10
Speaker 2: into murder innocent civilians going forward. That is a bizarre
31:14
Speaker 2: way to respond to a horrific atrocity carried out by.
31:17
Speaker 1: Hamas Jensaki, White House Press secretary. She obviously And this
31:23
Speaker 1: is when you know it's a coordinated and orchestrated effort
31:26
Speaker 1: by talking heads, former White House pressingre terry, people in
31:30
Speaker 1: the media, people in the State Department, people in social
31:35
Speaker 1: media circles on the left, and celebrities and others this
31:39
Speaker 1: is what she had to say on Israel on MSNBC.
31:43
Speaker 6: Well, and Jen, it's very easy for people to say
31:47
Speaker 6: the president should do a the president should do BC.
31:51
Speaker 6: There is also the very real possibility, and He'll say,
31:54
Speaker 6: understand this, if the President turns on met Yahoo to belief,
32:01
Speaker 6: the President says we're going to stop sending weapons that
32:05
Speaker 6: Met and Yahoo actually uses that to gain more power
32:09
Speaker 6: inside of Israel, saying, see, we have been abandoned even
32:13
Speaker 6: by the United States.
32:15
Speaker 1: We have to fight on That's right, Joe.
32:17
Speaker 8: And I think that's important too. Look, clearly, the strategy
32:21
Speaker 8: that the United States is implementing at this point is
32:24
Speaker 8: not working to change the behavior of Prime Minister net
32:26
Speaker 8: and Yahoo is not working to end the war. So
32:29
Speaker 8: obviously something has to change. And I think it's pretty
32:33
Speaker 8: clear they're discussing that, I think in the White House
32:35
Speaker 8: and I hope in the White House in this situation
32:37
Speaker 8: room at this point in time. The question is what
32:40
Speaker 8: that will be. And there's a number of allies of
32:44
Speaker 8: President Biden's in the Senate, Democratic senators and others who
32:47
Speaker 8: have been pretty outspoken about the need for conditioning AID
32:50
Speaker 8: at least as a consideration. That's Obviously something that is
32:54
Speaker 8: being considered should be considered. The question is will that
32:57
Speaker 8: change the behavior? And what additional leverage needs to be
33:00
Speaker 8: put on Prime Minister Netnyaho at this point in time
33:04
Speaker 8: to change the trajectory. But you're right, there's a calculation
33:06
Speaker 8: if you're discussing this, if you're the president, if you're
33:08
Speaker 8: the national security team, about what would prompt Prime Minister
33:12
Speaker 8: Netanyaho to be more aggressive, what would prompt him to
33:15
Speaker 8: be less aggressive? Obviously nothing has worked to date, But
33:18
Speaker 8: it's it's not as easy as it sounds to make
33:20
Speaker 8: that determination center.
33:22
Speaker 1: Not one time did she say anything about putting pressure
33:25
Speaker 1: on Hamas the terrorist organization or the Palestinian that are
33:29
Speaker 1: supporting the terrorists to stop them. They don't care about Israel,
33:34
Speaker 1: like Israel is the terrorist organization that started all this.
33:37
Speaker 1: They were the ones that were attacked.
33:40
Speaker 2: Look that they treat Israel as a client state. They
33:44
Speaker 2: treat Israel as the oppressors, and understand the base of
33:48
Speaker 2: their party believes Israel as their oppressors and also get
33:52
Speaker 2: you know, you know, there's some folks. There's a popular
33:54
Speaker 2: media narrative that hey, Joe Biden Israelly pro Israel. But
33:58
Speaker 2: he's just got a political problem that that his party
34:00
Speaker 2: is not That's actually not accurate. Joe Biden has been
34:04
Speaker 2: undermining Israel for more than fifty years. Let's go back
34:09
Speaker 2: to nineteen eighty two. Nineteen eight two was a long
34:11
Speaker 2: time ago. Nineteen eighty two, Joe Biden was in the
34:16
Speaker 2: Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He had a private meeting with
34:19
Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Man Knock and began and Joe Biden
34:24
Speaker 2: decided to do what he's doing now, to threaten Israel,
34:28
Speaker 2: to threaten We're going to cut off usaid if Israel
34:32
Speaker 2: did not stop quote settlements in Judaea and Samaria. So
34:36
Speaker 2: it's frankly the same thing he was saying in eighty
34:37
Speaker 2: two is what he's saying now. We don't like Israel.
34:39
Speaker 2: You don't have any right to settle the land of Israel,
34:42
Speaker 2: and if you do, we're going to cut you off.
34:44
Speaker 2: And here's what Megan responded to. And this is one
34:46
Speaker 2: of the most famous responses by any Israeli Prime minister,
34:50
Speaker 2: and it was in nineteen eighty two, so a long
34:53
Speaker 2: long time ago. Here's what Began said to Joe Biden.
34:56
Speaker 2: Then a senator quote, don't threaten us with cutting off
35:01
Speaker 2: your aid. It will not work. I am not a
35:05
Speaker 2: Jew with trembling knees. I am a proud Jew with
35:11
Speaker 2: three thousand, seven hundred years of civilized history. Nobody came
35:17
Speaker 2: to our aid when we were dying in the gas
35:19
Speaker 2: chambers and ovens. Nobody came to our aid when we
35:23
Speaker 2: were striving to create our country. We paid for it,
35:28
Speaker 2: we fought for it, we died for it. We will
35:32
Speaker 2: stand by our principles, we will defend them, and when necessary,
35:39
Speaker 2: we will die for them again, with or without your aid.
35:45
Speaker 2: That's what the Prime Minister of Israel said to Joe
35:48
Speaker 2: Biden over forty years ago. You know what, the Prime
35:52
Speaker 2: Minister of Israel is still saying that to Joe Biden.
35:55
Speaker 2: But sadly, the entire Democrat Party is with Biden, undermining
35:59
Speaker 2: is and effectively forming a protective shield around the Hamas
36:06
Speaker 2: terrorists who committed the most unspeakable acts of modern times
36:11
Speaker 2: that we have seen.
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Speaker 2: Then well, listen, the Biden administration and the Democrats in
38:52
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38:55
Speaker 2: want to number one undermine Benjamin et Yahoo. And I'm
39:00
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39:03
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39:08
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39:11
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39:13
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39:18
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39:19
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39:22
Speaker 2: But look the White House and the Congressional Democrats. They
39:25
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39:29
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39:34
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39:36
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39:40
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39:44
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I sat down doing a zoom call
39:47
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39:50
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39:53
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39:55
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39:58
Speaker 2: in a military campaign, we will utterly eliminate Hamas, and
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Speaker 2: if America has not there, we'll do it on our own.
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Speaker 2: To be honest, what Netanyahu said it was almost word
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Speaker 2: for word webknock, and Vegan said that has not changed.
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Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons Listen, as a Texan, I've explained,
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Speaker 2: people have asked me a lot of times. They've said,
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Speaker 2: how is it. How did it come to pass that
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Speaker 2: a Cuban Techan Southern Baptist became the leading defender of
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Speaker 2: Israel in the Senate. And there are lots of reasons
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Speaker 2: for that, But I'll tell you one of the biggest
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Speaker 2: is the attitude of Israel. Israel is surrounded by nations
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Speaker 2: that would drive it into the sea, that would murder
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Speaker 2: every Israeli, every Jew if they could, and the only
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Speaker 2: reason they don't is because Israel is strong enough to
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Speaker 2: defeat them all. I got to say that is an
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Speaker 2: incredibly Texan foreign policy. It is a national security policy.
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Speaker 2: I have more than once wished that American foreign policy
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Speaker 2: could have the clarity and strength that Israel's does, and
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Speaker 2: so I'm not surprised that Netanyahu is saying the same
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Speaker 2: thing Knock and Megan said forty plus years later, which
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Speaker 2: is Israel only survives because they can survive. They are
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Speaker 2: not dependent on the large Yes, the welfare from Democrats
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Speaker 2: who are condescending to flick breadcrumbs from their table. But
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Speaker 2: I really do wonder Ben, is there one Democrat in
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Speaker 2: Congress with the guts to stand up to Biden and
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Speaker 2: say this is wrong. We stand with Israel, we stand
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Speaker 2: against Tamas, and all of the rest of this is garbage.
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Speaker 2: If they have I haven't seen it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, and this is going to
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Speaker 1: be such an important issue on the ballot this coming November.
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Speaker 1: Don't forget to share this please. It's an important episode
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Speaker 1: Without you guys listening and putting this out the world,
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Speaker 1: no one hears it. So thank you. We need to
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Speaker 1: you back here on Saturday for our week in review
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