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Bill Duke, Rickey Smiley, Kevin Powell, Jonnetta Patton & Kindu Walker · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Sean mcdot Now. My next guest is an accomplished actor
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  Speaker 1: on shows like Falcolm Crest's Fame, Hill Street, Blues, Knots, Landing,
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  Speaker 1: Dallas or Dallas whoa boy back in the day who
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  Speaker 1: shot j R. And New York Undercover off on fox
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  Speaker 1: Man That was the show. His film critics include Get
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  Speaker 1: Richard Died, Trying, Hoodling, Predator, Minister Society. That is a movie.
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  Speaker 1: If you've not seen it, you should catalog that. That
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  Speaker 1: is one of the best urban um interestity movies of
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  Speaker 1: how dry bys and interstity violence. I was living in
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  Speaker 1: l a at the time when that movie came out,
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  Speaker 1: so it was really very relatable. And anymore. He's a
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  Speaker 1: TV and film director and UH deep Cover when he
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  Speaker 1: was a deaf Jeff goldbloom Man, We gotta talk about
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  Speaker 1: that man s the act two, UH, producer, writer and
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  Speaker 1: the author of the new book that we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about on the show today. Bill Duke, for your career
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  Speaker 1: on screen and behind the cameras. Since I said his name,
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  Speaker 1: please welcome the money making conversations. Bill Duke, God, bless you,
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  Speaker 1: my brother. Thanks for having me. Hey Bill, how are
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  Speaker 1: you doing, my friend? I'm blessed man, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: having me on your show. Well, first of all, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, I know your talents. We we've
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  Speaker 1: we've we kind of met a couple of times when
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  Speaker 1: you came by step always the morning show, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: he was always quiet, but always had a message about
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  Speaker 1: giving back man even Ben. That's but that's about my
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  Speaker 1: fifteen years ago when we had that conversation, and I
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  Speaker 1: see you still maintaining that with your foundation. Talk to
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  Speaker 1: us about it before we get into the book. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's the Duke Media Foundation and you can see it
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  Speaker 1: online at Duke Media Foundation dot org. Just Media Foundation
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  Speaker 1: dot org. And we teach young people who are interested
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  Speaker 1: in our industry. Uh. Two things. One is media literacy.
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  Speaker 1: We've gone from some in television to Hulu, Crackical, Amazon, Netflix,
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  Speaker 1: augmented reality, virtual reality, cell phone apps. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: goes on and on and on, and it's not about
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  Speaker 1: just purchasing those things. What are the jobs behind those issues?
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  Speaker 1: And the second thing we teach young people is financial literacy.
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  Speaker 1: We are taught how to spend money, but now to
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  Speaker 1: use money. So we teach them about what is the
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  Speaker 1: FBI C what's the Federal Reserve with the stock market,
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  Speaker 1: what is Wall Street? What's debt with his credit with
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  Speaker 1: his compound interest? What are phones? So that they're given
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  Speaker 1: the information that they can utilize to their benefit in
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  Speaker 1: terms of leveraging dollars for themselves. That's really amazing. And
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  Speaker 1: what's the age group and how can one? Uh, I
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  Speaker 1: got a young person, I'm assuming a male and female.
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  Speaker 1: And what's the age group that participates in this in
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  Speaker 1: your foundation program? They're high schools from fourteen to eighteen
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  Speaker 1: years old. And we tind to hold it four times
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  Speaker 1: a year. Um, we are constantly raking funds for it
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  Speaker 1: because you think we want to eventually take a national
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  Speaker 1: particularly financial literacy is so important. You know, we were
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  Speaker 1: trying to spend money for now to use this absolutely well.
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  Speaker 1: You know the thing about it is always used me
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  Speaker 1: as an asset, you know when you're doing it again.
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  Speaker 1: And Bill, first of all a fan. You've been like
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  Speaker 1: a mentor to me because I've watched your talent. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: people don't understand you don't have to know somebody for
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  Speaker 1: somebody to be your mentor. It's just what they how
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  Speaker 1: they carry themselves, how they present themselves on screen, the accomplishments,
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  Speaker 1: and watching your career, I have to say, you're you
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  Speaker 1: have been a mentor to me because you've laid the
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  Speaker 1: groundwork to say this can happen. This can happen. And
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  Speaker 1: you have a production company there that produces film and
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  Speaker 1: television show called Duke Media Entertainment. Let them Let the
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  Speaker 1: fans and the listeners know about that. Well, we UM
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  Speaker 1: try our best, you know, to collaborate with other companies,
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  Speaker 1: UM Network, Studios, online, et cetera, to create content. We
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  Speaker 1: call it entertainment and we don't fat or anything, but
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  Speaker 1: we think that, you know, you can entertain people but
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  Speaker 1: also give them a little nothing to think about, uh
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  Speaker 1: without you know, because we don't know everything. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: there are issues that raise their heads that should be
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  Speaker 1: addressed and you can do it in an entertaining way.
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  Speaker 1: So we tire our best to do that. And so
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  Speaker 1: UM that's that's that's our goal. Well, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: interesting thing about having a production company, because I have one,
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  Speaker 1: is and uh but yours is way more advanced in mind, Bill,
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  Speaker 1: And is that when you think about how do people
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  Speaker 1: what are the wrong the incorrect way that people present
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  Speaker 1: ideas to try to pitch ideas to you? Aught your
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  Speaker 1: production company, if you can give by my listeners, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: how quick? How to and how don't to pitch an idea? Well?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, um, today pitching an idea? UM A
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  Speaker 1: lot of the creative executives and industry or accountants and um,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're going to pitch an idea verbally. I
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  Speaker 1: think you protect yourself better if you have what it's
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  Speaker 1: called the deck, and it's a visual digital presentation of
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  Speaker 1: the vision. Um, who is your basic audience? How many
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  Speaker 1: of them are there? What is your gender? Et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: Have a little sizzle reel, would be great to have
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  Speaker 1: the script plus a synopsis. But to answer your vital questions.
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  Speaker 1: I used to go pitching with passion and all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of well my grandfather, big grandfather with a slave or
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  Speaker 1: whatever and that of that, this is why it's important.
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  Speaker 1: And I used to pick those ideas. And I go
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  Speaker 1: back to my agent because no one picked the ideas up,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, what in the name, but what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: And so he said, hey, Bill, did you answer the
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  Speaker 1: essential questions in the first three minutes of the pitch
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  Speaker 1: and said, what is that question? He said, Bill, what
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  Speaker 1: they want to know is how in the hell you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna make me mo money back. Yeah, that's true, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: I never thought about that. But you can have all
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  Speaker 1: the past that you want. If you can't tell them
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  Speaker 1: how you can make them the money back, it ain't
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  Speaker 1: work too well Deep Cover, which is one of my
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  Speaker 1: all time favorite movies. How did you make that transition
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  Speaker 1: to directing? Well, Um, I was directing uh stage played
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  Speaker 1: in New York and out here in l A also,
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  Speaker 1: But I was always and I wrote my own stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but I was always intimidated by the equipment of you know,
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  Speaker 1: the cameras in there, the dolly grip, the dollies and
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  Speaker 1: UH and the lights and everything. And I just overwhelmed
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  Speaker 1: by that. And so UM I got um a show
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  Speaker 1: called Homistown USA by UM, you know normally, and Alex
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  Speaker 1: Hilly produced it. I was on a couple of seasons um,
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  Speaker 1: Janelle Allen and myself, but then I didn't work two
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  Speaker 1: years after that, and I said I would, I would
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  Speaker 1: get over the sphere because I have to have more
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  Speaker 1: than one skill. I applied to the American Film Institute,
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  Speaker 1: got in and thank god, I said, wow, that's awesome,
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  Speaker 1: and uh I got a film out of that called
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  Speaker 1: The Hero and it got some recognition. I shot it
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  Speaker 1: around to everybody. They wouldn't take it and so they
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  Speaker 1: won't let me directly. I went away on a retreat
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  Speaker 1: for UM meditations. I'm a transport meditation practitioner and I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to cheat. My agent close and he says, David
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  Speaker 1: Jacobs wanting to see you from notch Landing music producer.
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  Speaker 1: I said, what, so I flew. I went back and
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  Speaker 1: met with David Jacobs. It was like a strange little meeting,
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  Speaker 1: very brief, and then um, for my age, it's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen. A week later, the agent calls me said,
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  Speaker 1: David Jacobs wants you to direct the first episode not Landing.
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  Speaker 1: I cheered. I was so happy. Then I went to
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  Speaker 1: work and I was there for like, you know, prepping
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  Speaker 1: the the and the last day of prep, Joe Wallentine
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  Speaker 1: comes says, do you know we know you're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a great director from your real I said, what reel?
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  Speaker 1: Well the view you're turned into David? I said, no,
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  Speaker 1: I just gotta he's wait a minute, He goes to
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  Speaker 1: the David Jacob got David Jacobs had mixed my box
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  Speaker 1: up with someone else's. That's why I got my first cob.
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  Speaker 1: That's a that's a blessing. That's a blessing, but God,
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  Speaker 1: you was about my first day on Dallas. I was
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  Speaker 1: the gates and I rolled the windows down and the
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  Speaker 1: security guard said to me, who are you delivering for?
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  Speaker 1: That was that was a moment. And that's the I
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  Speaker 1: three six sports, Marketing, recruiting and nutrition team. I don't
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna you to them Southern people, they just want
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  Speaker 1: to share their name. You want to extend life. And
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  Speaker 1: how you doing? Wonderful? Good? Okay? Cool? You brought this
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  Speaker 1: gentleman in. You know. Here's here's the thing about you.
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  Speaker 1: There's a second time I've been able to get you
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  Speaker 1: on the show where the Council because to fly out
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  Speaker 1: of town and you you're not about sharing the stage
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  Speaker 1: about you know, because I was trying to just book
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  Speaker 1: you and you're trying to bring another person on the
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  Speaker 1: show last time. So tell me about your personality. Why
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  Speaker 1: is that? Because a lot of people they just want
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  Speaker 1: it's all about them and they got a moment be
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: on the show of ra Sean McDonald's all about me,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: but but not you. I'm a hard worker. I like
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  Speaker 1: to get the work done. I'm really more of a
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  Speaker 1: behind the scene manager and person. I like to create greatness.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really like being in the spotlight, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And really with this new venture that I have um
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  Speaker 1: just launched, I'm more out front. I don't really want
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  Speaker 1: to be is that it are bad good, it's good,
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  Speaker 1: But for me, that's not who I am. Behind the scene,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that can happen nowadays, you know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: because of social media. Social media, you know, we have
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  Speaker 1: directors are not stars, Executive producers are not stars because
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: of social media. Because people want to know so much
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  Speaker 1: about them, want to engage in their their their process.
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  Speaker 1: They want to be able to like what you do.
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  Speaker 1: They want to be able to comment on how you create.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's what I've learned about myself. You know,
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  Speaker 1: because I've been with Steve Harvey, I was truly up
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes guy as you were with Usher, because
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  Speaker 1: the wall. It wasn't about your your role. You were
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  Speaker 1: then you you moved on. So I understand that, but
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  Speaker 1: I know that as rus Sean McDonald as as you
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  Speaker 1: are now. They plays a different role on building your
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  Speaker 1: brand because you're now a brand. How does one if
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  Speaker 1: I'm from Sean McDonald, I'm trying to get in the business,
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  Speaker 1: how do I contact you? How do I find out
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  Speaker 1: if you're the right place for me to take my vision,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: my ideas and my concepts. Well, first of all, you
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  Speaker 1: my record, and then you just like me, google me,
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  Speaker 1: Just google me, Just google people. I was saying, you
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  Speaker 1: have a business card, No, you know, just google me.
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  Speaker 1: You will find me if you need me. I'm I
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  Speaker 1: me want to go Why I said, I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't use this because in the end, I would tell
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  Speaker 1: people if your brand has to have value, And I
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  Speaker 1: don't say that arrogantly. I just tell people that exactly,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta have value. You gotta believing it to a
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  Speaker 1: certain point that if I don't, if I'm when I
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  Speaker 1: tell somebody, I don't feel I'm missing an opportunity. When
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  Speaker 1: I tell them that, I'm just letting them know that
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  Speaker 1: I'm confident enough to know if you want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to me, you find confident. You said it, you said
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  Speaker 1: at sixty one when I got back in the business,
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry about we're taking pictures, y'all. There you go,
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  Speaker 1: I put in the work. You got this smooth skin,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, don't you don't you look at people
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  Speaker 1: go you? I don't look around like hope. Now I
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  Speaker 1: I don't look like that. But you know it's rest,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't get resd you get rest. I get
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  Speaker 1: mad when sleep takes over my body. See I I
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  Speaker 1: I don't worry about don't worry back. But see you
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  Speaker 1: sitting next to a phone, a food who just passionate
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  Speaker 1: about what I do? And I've been doing that. Guy
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  Speaker 1: doing that? It was Kevin Ross from Radio Facts. He
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  Speaker 1: asked me, how long you've been getting up? I said about.
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  Speaker 1: I wanna tell you how I got up because I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: used to work at the post office. When I got
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  Speaker 1: before before y'all wouldn't be talking to me today if
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  Speaker 1: wanna leave you all this beautiful conference. We will be
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  Speaker 1: record leg and realizing that you know, she she she
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  Speaker 1: ultimate goal? What do you see three years from now?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: What's what? Where? Where's your brain in three years? Well?
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I think three years from now, UM, we are going
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  Speaker 1: to definitely make a mark on this industry. UM. A
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  Speaker 1: your your name means something. You know, this is how
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  Speaker 1: the model the model because she doesn't have time to
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: do what you do. And so that's what you do
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: in life. And that's why I was just talking about
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: social media. She's a brand, you know what she wants
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to resist that or not. You know, she can't because
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: of the fact that people the not only just social media,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: but the digital platform just can just type in your
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• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I said, I have my Rashan McDonald dot com website,
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  Speaker 1: already talked about what we're gonna do, and I'm serious
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• 25:21
  Speaker 1: you come back there and you know, we come on
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• 25:26
  Speaker 1: getting kids? But I've been knowing him way back before then,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that. See we all. I told him,
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  Speaker 1: You haven't done it yet. Huh No, sir, don done
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  Speaker 1: been talking about this by coming on his show, Ricky
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  Speaker 1: smiling for real, by doing we've actually talked about doing
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  Speaker 1: the coming on the show, doing some type of cooking
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  Speaker 1: thing at the house, you know, because you have to
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  Speaker 1: But that hadn't happened yet, Steve, you know well. Season five,
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  Speaker 1: want my kids on the show because they had they
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  Speaker 1: developed a sense of entitlement and they didn't deserve to
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  Speaker 1: the issues that he has on that show with his kids,
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  Speaker 1: always have to respect me, you know, yes, sir, no, sir,
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  Speaker 1: The first time Ricky and I talked about this TV show,
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  Speaker 1: you when you're in there talking to the therapist talking
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  Speaker 1: about the issues y'all having. What's going on this season, Ricky,
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  Speaker 1: come on now, we'll talk about the show man. Tell
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  Speaker 1: smiling for real? What's going on? Yeah? Season five? Season
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  Speaker 1: five starts tomorrow, Ricky's amount for real. I'm really really
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  Speaker 1: excited about it. Um, I'm introducing four new kids. A
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  Speaker 1: Right right, Okay, cool, cool. Now now this one because
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  Speaker 1: I posted that. I'm posting that this afternoon, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: that's what you do with your fraternity brothers, you know,
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  Speaker 1: But but man, you know, all of these wonderful people
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  Speaker 1: qu it's part of your DNA is who you are
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  Speaker 1: much for having me. Thank you so much. Well, Kevin, Kevin,
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  Speaker 1: we've met? Having we Hey we met? I'm not sure, sir, because, uh,
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  Speaker 1: just shook my head casually, but thank you for coming
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  Speaker 1: So with that being said, what here's a here's it here.
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  Speaker 1: we need more. You know. That's why I respect you
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  Speaker 1: really once I got to college and to this day.
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  Speaker 1: you know, so so many leaps that that people allowed, setbacks,
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  Speaker 1: want to get in to entertainment, we want to get
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