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Inside the Haunting: Jamie Bernadette on Paranormal Investigations · Cinema Yūgen

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G'day. That's right. It's that time again. Time for Cinema Yugen.
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Gagan Heights! Welcome back. It's your host, Ked Hill.
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Welcome back. Cinema Yugen. And Raymond Wallace's paranormal investigations
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reminded me of Daniel Minahan's brilliant 2001 film,
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Series 7, The Contenders, which charts the fates of the cast members of a reality
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TV show attempting to survive.
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And in his movie six people have to avoid
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being killed by each other but wallace takes
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this element and splices it with the found footage
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genre creating something that's slick
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smart funny furiously horrifying it
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could be seen as suicide to reveal the ending of your movie in
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the opening stages but what you learn as
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paranormal investigations carries on is
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that not everything is going to go the
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way you think it's going to go we've talked to the wonderful
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raymond wallace but now we have with us the star of the movie jamie bernadette
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to talk all things paranormal investigations put your hands together eugenics
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here she is jamie bernadette G'day Jamie,
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Thank you so much Thanks for having me Thank you for being here This was Like
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I was saying to Raymond I really enjoyed This movie The show within the show Within the show of it all.
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How, how, how much did you enjoy? How much did you like?
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Well, first of all, have you had any real paranormal encounters?
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Uh, unexplainable encounters. Yeah. You know, it's funny.
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My sister, she lives in like a house that's in the country. It's probably a
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couple hundred years old. It's so old. They don't even know how old it is. Right. Right.
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And I don't know. I was staying upstairs in her house and I,
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I, I know this sounds really weird people are gonna be like oh gosh but no this
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is the truth i went into the hallway upstairs and i felt like there was a presence
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in the corner of the room like it was just this,
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overwhelming feeling like someone was there so i said to her the next day and
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her son was sitting there and her husband.
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And I was like, do you have a ghost here?
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She was like, oh, her mouth dropped open. She looks at her husband.
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She's like, I told you, I told you.
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Yeah. And then she started telling me all these stories where like once she
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was sitting there with her son and they were just sitting there and it was in
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the living room and they had like a leather couch.
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And then all of a sudden they heard, it was like someone sat down. Wow.
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Yeah. And they looked at each other and they were like, you heard that, right?
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Like, so it was just different stories like this.
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She started telling me that she never told me probably she was afraid I would
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think she was nuts or something.
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But so when I saw that, she like hit the floor and she was like,
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yeah, we definitely think so. And I was like, wow.
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Yeah. Because as I was saying to Raymond, like, if I was going into a haunted
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house or a situation like that, like, yeah, okay, I'll admit up front I'm skeptical,
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but it's not like I don't want to see something.
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You know what i mean like i do want to see something if someone says this house is haunted,
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then you know i don't want to be asleep and like have just a door open and closed
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or something oh what was that i want to see like i was saying i want to see
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a book levitate or you know something,
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measurable i want to see some measurable phenomenon you know what i mean uh yeah totally And I mean.
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The closest thing I got is the school I went to when I started high school had
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this separate building across the road where the girls kept all their stuff
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during the day because the girls and the boys didn't bunk at the same campus
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to prevent, you know, fraternization.
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And so the rumor had it that the building, there was a nun who had hung herself.
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There was this little tiny bell tower.
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And there was a rumor that a nun had hung herself there back in the 1800s or whatever,
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and a long time ago and one night we're out there and because we used to have these classes,
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sometimes at night and we're there waiting to be picked up and now look i can't
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confirm or disconfirm that this was the wind And...
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When I first went there, they reckon, you know, on a still and like a still
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and quiet night, sometimes you can hear the bell ring.
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Well, I did hear the bell ring faintly, but it did ring.
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Can't confirm whether it was the dead nun or the wind.
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So. Oh, wow. Oh, that must have been creepy.
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Well, yeah, because, I mean, you're standing there by yourself and,
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like, you've been told a hundred times and you don't know whether people are
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just having a go at you or whatever.
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And they're like, you know, on a quiet and still night, you can hear the bell faintly ringing.
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And it did. It rang once. But, again, can't confirm, disconfirm.
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Could have been the wind, could have been any number of things.
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Whether it wasn't a dead nun i will
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never be able to inform you but
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what i can inform our listening audience is that
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paranormal investigations is a great great movie jamie what was it like this
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must take this film must have taken you back to theater in a lot of ways because
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because of the coverage in this you're really kind of never off camera just
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like when you're never, when you're on stage,
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you're always on when you're on stage.
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Did that sort of factor into it, especially in the bits where you've got like
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the multiple camera situation.
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So you've got to be eternally on because it's picking up everything in those rooms.
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Oh yeah. In real time, simultaneously, all that sort of stuff.
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Absolutely. And, you know, that was something to get used to for sure,
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because I always had to just be aware of what I was doing.
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And even when, you know, we may have like a close up happening,
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we have the the wise in the corners of the room, all these different cameras and I'm still on camera.
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So it's like you're you're constantly on camera. So you have to constantly be
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aware of that and what you're doing.
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And you know what I mean? Whereas, you know, otherwise, you know,
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not in this sort of found footage genre.
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It's just like when the camera is not on you. So it's, yes, you can,
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you still perform at your height for the other actor, but you get a little break
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in your mind, you know, that you're not on camera.
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So it was never this way in this film.
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It was always like, and then you feel like, oh, we're done with the scene.
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And then, wait, do we need to, oh, wait, no, we don't need it.
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We got that because we got everything.
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It's, you know, it took me, it took me some getting used to for sure.
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Yeah. was it was it as meticulously scripted or
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was there room to improvise and
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some of those like say for instance some of the
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character moments like when you break character
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but i mean you're still the cameras are obviously still rolling but you're in
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between those moments like you know in between bits like oh let's do a promo
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over here let's do this over here and was that all as intensely was that all
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meticulously scripted or was there room to move in that.
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Stuff yeah it was meticulously scripted
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i mean raymond wrote a fantastic script
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you know and and he had his vision
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man he knew exactly how he was going to put this together because
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when i saw it i was floored how well done
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it was it was just so cleverly done
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real show yeah and so meticulously done
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so yeah the script was the same and i mean we we pretty
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much stuck to the script um okay yeah
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pretty solidly throughout so no
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i was just curious i forgot to ask raymond about it while i
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had him so so the bits so it was all like
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exactly scripted the bits where you drift between okay
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well you've shot like your promo and then you go into like the
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interpersonal relationship stuff
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so that that was all like in there exactly where it
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falls yeah right yeah
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yeah no because
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that's yeah because i mean like as i said to raymond
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i said that was one of the bits that that i
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really liked was that third layer of the
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interplay like you've got on camera you've got you've got the show then the
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show within the show but then you've got this other movie that is the interpersonal
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play between you making the show i mean obviously before things go sideways
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yeah so to speak yeah Yeah, absolutely.
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You know, was that part of the draw for you as an actor?
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Like the fact that it's not just like, I'm not just running around the house screaming.
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There's this third dimension like, oh, okay, we are actual people here.
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Absolutely because you know when
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i was playing like i'm presenting for the
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show yeah i'm acting one way and then when the cameras are supposed to be off
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right but we're not get a nosy cameraman right yeah you're still acting but
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you drop the the on-camera persona for the the private persona of your character
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right exactly or personal persona.
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Exactly so i'm more like we were more
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presentational when we were being
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on the tv show than the
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behind the scenes being normal then you know we're
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more natural yeah no as
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i said to raymond to another bit another element that
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i liked was the fact that because it
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like starts off pretty mundane there's a part we all
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discuss like making stuff up to
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like fill in fill in the gaps fill in
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the blanks and i said they must they must do that at some point on those shows
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like okay there's nothing really happening we need to like do something i know
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totally yeah that That always made me laugh when I, when I read it. Yeah.
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Cause I mean, I mean, unlike, unlike a film shoot or even an independent film
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shoot where everything is like, okay, we've only got X amount of time to get
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in there and get these shots and whatever else.
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As opposed to being in that situation where you're there rolling cameras effectively all night long.
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If you are one of these ghost hunter people and nothing happens,
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there's not even a bird tweeting outside or, you know, just nothing,
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just nothing out of nothing.
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Like if there was a creak in the floor, it would be something,
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but just nothing, you know?
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I mean, do you think that that's a like, I mean, look, put it this way.
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And as I said, this is not to disparage anyone who's ever done this or actually
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does it, but they know that they're on camera, right?
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For the most part. So you got to, there would have to be some element of, oh, did you hear that?
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You know, it's like all Matt's stuff when he's doing his promos where he walks
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into the room and he's like, oh, the force in this room is so powerful.
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It's dark. It's weighing in all, you know, it's like he knows.
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He knows that he's got to sell the...
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The dread that doesn't exist right oh yeah
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absolutely so he's had that plan yeah yeah
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so i mean yeah there has to be an element of it in real life where they're like
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well even if there's like a tiny little crack in like in the woods behind them
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or in the house behind like did you hear that and they're like yeah yeah i think
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it was yeah yeah i think let's go and investigate.
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Totally and if i think too sometimes like if you want to see or hear something so badly,
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that maybe your mind creates it too yeah
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yeah yeah totally like if you're sitting like particularly
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if you're like them and you're standing in these spaces
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and you're waiting for something like you're actually what
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you you find yourself physically waiting just to hear
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anything so the first sound that you hear is obviously going to
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be like did you hear that you know yeah yeah
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then of course with with your characters they
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have a different you know a different
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type of thing to worry about because they have the the effective
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uh measuring equipment so so we
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as the audience sort of see warning signs
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ahead of you it's almost like that the technology is
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a is a great sort of element to the
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ticking clock in the story because
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as the phenomena rises we see
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the the input on the you know like the the sound
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readouts and the temperature readouts and all that sort of
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thing as it goes further and
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further into that the hell house really
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exposes itself for its its reputation yeah for sure the temperature equipment
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got me i was i was like wow i i don't know that i knew something like that existed
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like before yeah i was like whoa that's pretty wild.
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Yeah. And I mean, no, so what, like.
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What was it like doing some of that?
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I don't want to give too much away. It's hard to talk about whether giving too much away.
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But once the phenomena starts to interact, let's say,
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with the paranormal investigators, can you talk a little bit about that,
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filming that sort of chaos, particularly when demons rise as they do?
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Mm-hmm well it
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was trying to recall each thing
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i know sometimes we would
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react to it being
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there when it wasn't there like demon so so you would film our reaction and
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then film the turnaround with the demon later okay right right yeah and then
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So it's just Raymond there going, okay, now I'm a demon,
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right? And so you're just like, oh, no.
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Yeah, like we have to react to something that's not there yet.
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Yeah, I had to do that a couple times, actually, and I'm thinking about it.
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So, yeah, that's where your imagination takes over, your childlike imagination and, you know.
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Yeah, old-fashioned make-believe stuff.
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Yeah, yeah. Because it's definitely –.
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Like I imagine it to be very difficult to showcase a great amount of emotion
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and a great amount of emotion and fear, palpable fear,
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when you're just reacting to the director. Okay, now there are demons here.
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And you have to like, because when you're scared, you're emotional,
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you know, because you're terrified for your life or you should be,
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particularly if it's a demon coming for you, right?
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Because, I mean, you're a fan of horror movies.
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That's what sells you on a horror movie is it's not so much the monster or the slasher.
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It's the – you buy the fear on the people's faces, you know,
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like Sigourney Weaver at the end of Aliens.
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Like she's – going down in that lift, she's terrified.
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Yeah. You buy her fear, but her fear – I mean, the thing about her character
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whose feet doesn't let her let.
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Let things stop it you know very similar
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to like your characters in this film like
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because they're hunting this phenomenon like any
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other any other you or me in that
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house the first time we hear a voice like get out of the house we're leaving
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i'm not staying i'm
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not staying there holding a camera or holding a candle i'm you
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know see you later run for us yeah
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i think it's funny too how we get all excited at
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first we're like yeah something's happening like
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i just got the biggest kick out of that part yeah you
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know like oh my gosh we're gonna be it's a real emotional roller caster rod
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because there's like this it's kind of a bit of a slow boil because like it's
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it's some people might say it's dangerous essentially alluding to the end of
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the story at the beginning because i I mean,
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they basically say that this is the final footage of the paranormal investigators
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that was uncovered after their unruly demise, you know, or whatever it is.
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Yeah, like give away the ending, yeah.
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Yeah, but that didn't take anything away from me at all, because like I was saying to Raymond.
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It reminded me of this other film that was set up like a reality TV show in
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the early 2000s called series seven, the contenders now completely different style of show.
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But what kept it interesting was the fact that it was set up like a show.
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It wasn't just the footage. Like it wasn't just like for argument's sake, like paranoia,
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What's the one where it's just the security cameras in the house?
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Is that paranormal activity? Like, yeah.
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Yeah. It's not just, it wasn't just like footage, you know, like your film isn't
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just the footage, like just raw.
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There's nothing done to it. There's no music. There's no, you know, effects, you know.
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Yeah. And I find I like films like yours and that one more because it still
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is found footage, but it's just, It's not presented just as,
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you know, this is the raw footage as it came out of the camera.
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So it's, if it's sloppy and it's not edited, look, it's an excuse to make a
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movie without really putting much effort into us.
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And Raymond sort of said, it's actually harder to make found footage than it is.
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To you know just like to capture it
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if it's just regularly captured because obviously when
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your characters are making this they don't know that they're going to
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meet with anything nasty you know
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yeah yeah i actually was about to say the same thing too
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that it's harder actually to make found footage
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yeah i think it's just so much more to
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think about like no like you
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can't just place the camera where you want it or like you
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it has to make sense like the cameras are here so
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this has to work you know you can't just
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manipulate cameras that you've
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already right yeah i think it's much harder it's much
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more to think about the coverage is just
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way different than normal you know yeah i
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i think it's way harder yeah and so
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what was it what has it been like have you seen this have you
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seen the film with an audience yet no not
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with an audience um i got a link film though
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but yeah yeah no i'd be curious to i'd
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be curious to see how it you know how
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it plays with an audience because there's
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some there's some really again not
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to give it anything away because i don't i won't be able to watch the.
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Movie but the some of the uh
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the scares and the kills were didn't
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see that coming you know
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oh yeah man the kills were good right yeah yeah
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they were so good oh my goodness yeah like
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i thought this was gonna be like whenever you hear paranormal and totally think
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oh it's gonna be a lot of doors slamming and people being dragged across floors
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but this this swings for defenses this is a real this is a real horror movie
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with real horrible stuff happens to people, right?
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Oh, yeah. Gruesome. Yeah.
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Yeah ghosts could be so violent i know,
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yeah lucky like it's probably probably a
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good thing that we haven't either encountered one of these ghosts that you know
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that doesn't really like people and like in the middle of the night picks you
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up and like throws you across the room and i know i know the next minute you
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get picked up and thrown across the room. Oh, yeah.
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Get out of there. Yeah.
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Yeah, totally. The Raymond, he handed me the handheld, trying to think if it
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was the infrared camera or which one.
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And he's like, go in the room and run around and screaming and I'm holding it and it's on me.
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And like, it's just a different filmmaking experience.
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You know it was so much fun and then i'd be
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like okay i'm done and then he'd watch it you know
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we had this is so many different cameras having
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that handheld too was right a
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lot you can do that but yeah it was a lot of fun the
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throwing around the room thing you mentioned made
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me think of that because yeah because it
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must be it must be nice sometimes to to be
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the one controlling the tempo of the scene it's like
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i was saying with raymond about the split screen action because
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you've got because you have the potential to have characters
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in every frame because of the
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way the cameras are fixed that must
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have been fun dictating the tempo like if you're down say
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in this camera down here and you have characters in the frame
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above because that's just upstairs or around the corner
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then you've got characters in another room that's around
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the corner from that or or downstairs or whatever was
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it fun essentially you like whichever frame
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you're in dictating the tempo knowing that it's all being
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captured so all you've got to do is like once you get through wherever and back
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up to so and so was it fun to to essentially be in control of the tempo or the
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or the pacing of the action because essentially there's all it's all eyes all
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cameras are on you you can't.
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Not be captured you've just got to control the situation.
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Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, you don't know what Raymond's going to use to
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like the way he's together.
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He's picking and choosing shots and it was done so well, so well organized.
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So, yeah, you just always have to be on your game wherever you are.
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I would be walking in a room, looking around, seeing where the cameras are.
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Like, are there cameras in here?
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Like, you know, you don't know when you're on camera. It's actually weird when
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there's a break because like, you know, there's like, oh, yeah,
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there's no, you look around and go, yeah, there's no one filming me.
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Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm sitting quietly and have a cup of coffee.
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Yeah. Yeah. Before I step back into the eternal spotlight. Yeah.
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I would forget to, oh, there's a camera way down the hall up in the corner.
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Like I would like, oh, yeah, we've got that. It's over there. You know?
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Yeah. that must feel that must feel strange in some ways knowing that there's
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that there's a camera on you but then there's the show camera on you but then
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there's also a camera in the room,
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on you yeah so yeah and and and all the while you can't react to either any.
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Yeah yeah completely different filmmaking experience that's pretty busy that's a busy,
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situation i mean compared to compared to the other films you've done which is
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which is probably more traditional like you've got the one camera and you do
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your you know your side their side master shots and all this whereas this is
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like a continuous He was...
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Because the scenario is meant to be a continuously filmed experience,
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was it filmed the same way?
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We're filming this like it is a continuous experience? I mean,
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no, we would take breaks in between the scenes and stuff. Right. Yeah.
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So there wasn't any long periods where you were trying to get as much footage
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in the multi-camera setups?
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There was. there was one where we were running around from
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room to room that we did that was multiple cameras in all the rooms and we went
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yeah and we had a whole choreographed sequence there through all the different
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rooms so yeah we did do that yeah and uh and unfortunately i know that there's there's.
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Probably more than likely your character won't be coming back.
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Probably not. Unless it's a prequel and we all survive. Yeah.
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You know, but yeah, unless I'm- A very Shakespearean ending. Yeah.
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Maybe I'm a ghost that comes back and, you know. Yeah.
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You're one of the terrorizing poltergeists now. Yeah.
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Coming back for revenge against the broadcast company that didn't warn you.
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Against the fact that the place was actually really, really,
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really badly haunted and that your entire team would regret the night completely.
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So, I mean, obviously you've seen the film, obviously, how do you feel?
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I mean, being a fan of the genre and a star in the genre, How do you feel it
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stacks up with what's out there?
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I think it's incredibly unique, very creative, very well put together.
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I was very blown away. You have to be a very meticulous person,
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very extreme attention to detail to put that together.
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Yes. I was truly blown away by what Raymond did. Yes.
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He's obviously brilliant, you know, it was just, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it.
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Like I, I thought it would be good. I did, but I didn't expect that,
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you know, I didn't expect that, how it was just, I don't know.
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It was different, you know?
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It adds a, another chapter or another interesting addition to the found footage
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genre, which, you know, there are some good ones.
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There's some bad ones did you ever see that m night charm on one
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the visit yeah i love blair witch i've
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always yeah did you ever see the visit
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was that it's about the two the two kids go to see their parents was that a
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long time ago mid mid sort of i can't believe i haven't seen that because i
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like that one i won't i won't if you haven't seen it i won't give away the twist it's got a really, M.
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Night Shyamalan's noted for his twist. I know.
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Yeah, that one has genuinely one of the better twists that I didn't see coming.
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So I won't spoil it for you. Check out The Visit.
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Okay. Even though there's some situations in that, and I'm glad it's not in
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paranormal investigations,
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because Raymond asked me if I thought there was any flaws in the film,
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and I didn't think of this i only thought
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of it now but i'm glad that it didn't
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have any situations where you feel
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like someone would just a normal human being would just leave the camera why
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would you keep filming you know those you know there's some scenes in those
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these found footage movies like they would they would leave the camera they
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would run for their lives right yeah they pick the camera up and they keep yeah.
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I think I just, I rationalized it.
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Like, I mean, I know my character anyway.
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Like I was so obsessed with this show doing well and the dollars that I thought,
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well, if I get out. You make it look a personal.
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We'll have some good footage, you know, like I, I feel like,
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I feel like, I feel like that was in the back of my mind.
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You know, you think that might be the thing though, that they say them in these
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films, like make it a personal.
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Personal choice do you pick up the camera or don't you you
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know because i mean look i know in some instances they have
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to because the narrative relies on the fact that they pick
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up the camera and that they keep filming what's going
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on yeah i know we were using it for
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a light source in a lot of the scenes it was
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right right yeah yeah so there's a practical there's a
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practical application for it too so but i'm
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glad that there wasn't any moments what there have been
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in some of these films of the genre that
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that there's just moments where he's just
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like no no you wouldn't pick up the camera you'd run
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you'd run wouldn't stay you know
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it's like it's like when they always like whenever there's like something chasing
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people in a house or something they like why go deeper into the house like smash
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a window and dive outside you know like yeah do you feel that way watching horror
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movies you're like just just leave just go just get out what.
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Yeah for sure and there's always the oh let's split up thing you know and there's
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always that moment they get to the point of no return yeah yeah that point of
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no return where they've had every chance to leave and they've just let it go
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and now it's beyond the point and now,
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everyone's in for it yeah yeah but i mean look at the same time that that means
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it's working too right if i'm
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screaming at the tv or at the cinema screen like get out of there right.
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It's the work is effective right totally
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i think that's one of the reasons why people love horror so much
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because it's very interactive yeah it's very
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like what would you do and no do this don't
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do that go here you know like that's why
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i think one of the things people why they why they
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love it so much it's a very popular genre yeah you
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can get you can get invested the good ones have
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you invested and and that's the
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secret just like uh paranormal investigations and my wonderful guest jamie bernadette
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all of the characters in this people and we get to see them interacting as characters
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they're not just cardboard cutouts that scream at the right times we get to get to See them,
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get to know them a little bit so that when tragedy befalls them, we are invested.
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Certainly, I was right up until lead in. And Jamie, I'm glad to have seen the
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film and so happy to have shared a little chat about it with you. Thank you.
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Oh, thank you. Thank you for being a part of the film and Cinema Yugen.
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Thank you. Thank you so much. It's fantastic. Do you like to tell our audience
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where they can see and learn any more about yourself and the film?
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Oh, well, I mean, it's not out yet. And I know was doing like sporadic theatrical showings.
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So you just have to, you know, pay attention to when I post those or you know, Raymond does.
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And do you have like Facebook, Instagram, all that people can follow you?
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All that sort of thing. Yep.
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I have Facebook, Instagram, X.
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I'm on TikTok, but I don't post very much in there.
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But you can find me. So yeah, but I'll post and post stories on Instagram and
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of the theatrical showings and where you, you don't do cooking videos at home and no,
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no, I'm not really into cooking videos.
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I appreciate them and the people who do, but yeah, it's not really my thing,
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but I do more travel stuff. A lot of travel.
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Awesome. Yeah.
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Travel's good. Travel's awesome. as was your performance and as is Paranormal Investigations.
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Ladies and gentlemen, check the links in the description and thank once again, Jamie Bernadette.
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Jamie, it has been an honor. Thank you once again.
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We look forward to your next production and hopefully you'll come back and have another chat with us.
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All right. It'd be great. Thanks for having me.
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Yes. Jamie Bernadette Raymond Wallace's Paranormal Investigations. It is a wonderful film.
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It was a great surprise it's more than you'd
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expect but i won't spoil it follow the
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links in the description and get into
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this really really great scary brilliant wonderful spooky little gem raymond
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wallace's paranormal investigations check the link in the description and as
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always my little Eugenites,
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