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4:50min/mi GAP up a Small Mountain · Run Mountain Peaks

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  OK, welcome back to another episode of Run Mountain Peaks.
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  We got a few things to talk about this episode.
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  First off, 65 and Sunny is is insane.
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  I always say it. I have to live somewhere with
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  seasons, the first handful of spring days, fifties, 60s after
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  a long winter. I mean the feeling that goes
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  through your body is is next level.
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  I think if you don't live here and you don't get that every
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  year, I don't know, but it's hitting hard.
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  Today feels amazing. And we had a couple other things
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  to talk about today. I did a little bit of an uphill
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  effort this week. I ran it twice.
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  So I did the same kind of a time trial up S on Kinetic Mountain.
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  The first time I did it I did in about 7 minutes, 45 seconds and
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  then I re ran it 545 days later. I did in 7 minutes and 15
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  seconds. It was a one mile climb and it
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  was 500 feet of climbing, so 30 seconds is a big improvement.
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  I want to talk about everything I did to get that time faster.
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  There's a lots of different things I want to discuss.
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  Obviously I didn't get like a gain any fitness in five days.
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  It was more kind of like a race day execution and like a few
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  things. So I thought there was some good
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  talking points about that effort that I wanted to go through.
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  So we'll do that and then I want to talk injuries.
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  Injuries stink. I've had a fair share of running
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  injuries. So I had a bunch kind of getting
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  into the sport and I've had two major injuries.
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  I would say that that set me back or kind of like
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  significantly changed my plan since then.
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  So I want to talk about those and just kind of go through the
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  history, what I've done, how to battle through it and and yeah,
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  kind of get back on track. So those are going to be the two
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  main topics today. And then at the end, we are
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  going to do we have some race updates.
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  So there's a handful of races I want to go through a couple
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  coming up, a couple ones from last month we'll go through
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  results on. So we're going to do all that
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  today. So it should be a good episode
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  before we start the episode. We're going to do the 62nd
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  training tip. The the tip this week is kind of
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  like just talking about the effort that I did every once in
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  a while. Even if you're training for an
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  ultra, even if you never want to run fast, you don't have kind of
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  goals like that. You should put yourself in an
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  uncomfortable situation running, whether that be a time trial, a
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  race that's out of your real house, whatever, just an hour
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  tempo out of nowhere. Because pushing yourself,
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  getting uncomfortable, it's just going to help you grow.
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  It's it's going to give you a good stimulus that you probably
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  haven't gotten in a while if you've been avoiding something
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  like that. So every once in a while, even
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  if you're trained for ultras, do a hard all out effort.
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  It's going to benefit you. If you have any questions, run
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  mountainpeaks.com or just send me a message anywhere.
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  But that's the tip today. And it was inspired by the
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  effort that I did. So yeah, I want to talk about
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  the the South Unkanunuk time trial that I ended up doing.
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  Basically there's a bunch of trails of the Yonkanunix S
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  Onkanunix has a road to the top. There's like fire tower or cell
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  towers and some buildings up there.
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  So there's a road. So there's a little bit of like
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  a road time trial, which is, which is totally out of my
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  wheelhouse. Obviously it's a mountain, so
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  it's more like climb, definitely more comfortable climbing than
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  going on a flat Rd. but it's definitely, you know, out of my
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  wheelhouse, a low grade Rd. effort.
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  So kind of on a whim, I had a good training block this last
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  month and I was looking for something shorter to give a
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  decent effort on. And this is kind of what I ended
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  up going with. There's been a ton of melting
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  recently and there were just no good trails.
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  Like I want to hit something up in the Whites, but the days that
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  I could go up there, there were no really great trails.
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  So I decided why not to do something that scares me, a
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  local short road. And so that's what I did.
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  And like I said, I improved a, a good amount.
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  And so I want to talk about the improvement and the things that
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  I kind of did to run that faster.
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  It was a good effort for me, like I said.
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  So the second time that I, the first time I ran it 745, it was
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  about a 515 grade adjusted pace. And then the second time I ran
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  it, I did in 715 and it was a 450 grade adjusted pace.
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  So like a pretty, pretty substantial leap.
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  And yeah, we're just going to talk through like race day
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  execution and what I think about that.
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  And, and so hopefully it'll be a little bit interesting.
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  So I guess we'll just get right into it.
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  How do I run it faster in five days with the same fitness?
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  The first thing, I think I just had more rest.
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  So when I ran it the first time, I was coming off a full like the
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  last big week and kind of a training block.
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  So it was, I think it was 12 or 12 1/2 hours of, of cardio
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  volume. And it was the most volume in
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  miles invert and and speed work that I've done in a block.
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  And I took a day off, I think I did an easy bike and then I ran
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  it. So I was fairly rested, like I
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  took a day off before it and then I did an easy bike.
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  But I, I just feel like being close to that high training load
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  for me, my legs were probably just a little bit tired, didn't
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  have that high end speed and power pop that I needed.
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  So, oh, I didn't even say this, but this week after those that
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  kind of build, I was taking a down week.
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  So I only ended up doing 8 hours of training this week.
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  The last three weeks had been around 12.
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  And so doing the the time trial at the end of an 8 hour week
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  instead of like after a 12 hour week, I think that probably
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  helped. So it wasn't like a full out
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  taper, but I think the right the legs were just a little bit more
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  rested. And I think the down week just
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  kind of benefited me a little bit.
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  And one thing I want to talk about too, on down weeks
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  sometimes, like I'm a big advocate of taking a down week
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  every, you know, 3 or 4 weeks if you're building volume, like
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  that's very much the uphill athlete kind of playbook for
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  training for ultras. Do a few weeks, build, build,
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  build, and then really cut your volume back.
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  And I'm, I'm a big proponent of that.
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  When I cut my volume back and just do easy stuff, which some
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  like coaches will tell you to do, I feel flat.
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  My body gets all out of whack because I'm not training a lot
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  anyway. I feel flat.
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  I don't sleep good like the whole 9.
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  So I like to keep in speed work and even like I've been
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  experiencing like throwing an effort or two like this in like
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  an uphill effort. I think it helps keep the pop a
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  little bit get, you know, kind of staves off those first few
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  days of just lethargic when you come back.
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  So, so I was on a down week through in a couple efforts.
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  I think that helped. The other thing that helped was
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  the first time that I ran the effort, I did an hour, I think
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  it was an hour, maybe an hour and a half of biking the day
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  before. This time I ran it, I did an
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  hour running and I did like 6 strides at the end of I think it
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  did mostly hill strides in a few flat strides at the end of it.
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  And what I've noticed for my speed workouts, if I bike before
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  speed workout or a hard effort, I don't know if I'm not a good
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  cyclist, I don't know if I'm playing into my psyche, but it I
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  just feel like my heart rate doesn't get that high, but the
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  legs are kind of working almost like harder than it would be on
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  a run. I don't know, I just feel weird
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  and I never have the pop after a bike.
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  I feel better if I'm running, I feel like it doesn't.
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  I know biking degrades your leg muscles less, but I just think I
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  do more running. So my my legs are, are better to
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  bounce back from an easy run than an easy bike, even though
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  if that sounds kind of crazy. So I would say an easy run the
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  day before an effort and then throw in strides.
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  I don't think this is like breaking a science.
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  I think everyone you know before big races does strides the day
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  before or two days before, especially even if on an ultra.
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  I think it's good to do that. It just get your get your leg
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  muscles kind of engaged and ready to go for the next day,
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  have more pop. So those are a couple of things.
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  The route itself, I ran it today and it was dry.
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  And then the last time I ran it, I think we had snow two days
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  before, like 6 inches of snow and it had melted.
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  All the snow melted away, but it was wet.
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  There wasn't really ice, but it, I don't know, it's a little bit
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  wet. So I think that that had a
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  little bit to do with it. It was a little bit hotter.
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  It wasn't super hot, but it was almost like 55 or 60° when I ran
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  it this time versus last time was probably 40, like the
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  perfect running temperature. I don't know, I think the
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  roaches say like you can get downgraded performance even at
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  60°, but I don't think the heat had any effect on me.
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  But if it if it was 5 or 10° warmer, I think it probably
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  would have not that I could have improved.
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  It wouldn't have been a big deal.
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  Like it's a shorter. I felt like that.
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  But that's just one thing I was thinking about.
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  You know the heat when it when you're doing an effort like that
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  and then just running a route twice.
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  I think the second time you run it, you just gain kind of like
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  experience or confidence in where to push and when to push
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  and how to feel. I guess I can't really describe
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  it, but I feel like anyone, if they run in the same effort
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  twice, the second time, if you're the same or better
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  fitness, you're probably just going to run it faster.
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  So I kind of knew the first go wasn't going to be my best
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  effort. And it wasn't even like the
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  first time, it wasn't even a full race effort.
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  I was just kind of like, let's see what I can do on this hill.
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  And then I was, I was like 8 seconds off the crown with some,
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  with some strong runners on that on that board actually.
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  And I was like, all right, I'm going to try.
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  I'm going to go back and do what I can to get this crown.
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  So that's kind of like, I don't know, I took it a little bit
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  more seriously. I went really more full out
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  today. But I think I'm yeah, just
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  running in again really helped me.
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  Another thing, I think I'd mentioned it kind of in the
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  intro, but when you're ultra running, I, I advocate for speed
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  work every week, some sort of intervals and some strides.
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  But I think you're doing a lot less like tempos, a lot less
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  time trials, a lot less of that stuff.
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  And sometimes you just need a hard stimulus of something you
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  haven't been doing and you can actually make quick gains from
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  that. Like if I haven't done a track
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  workout in a few months or a couple months or whatever, for
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  whatever reason, and I do a track workout, I'll do it And
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  it'll be like usually surprised, like, all right, I'm doing
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  better than I thought I would have done.
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  The next week I go back and do the same one.
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  I always do a lot better and I don't know if this is more of a
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  physical like I think it's a new stimulus or your body adjusts
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  pretty quick. I think it's a mental fortitude
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  like, OK, it's OK to feel like this.
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  I can go a little bit harder next time.
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  So I think both of those kind of play into it.
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  But I do really think if you haven't been doing something and
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  you do it once in a once in a once a month or something, you
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  can get like big physical gains from that.
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  Like the roaches say, throw in an hour tempo, sometimes just go
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  hard for an hour and and you're going to get big gains.
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  This goes for any distance, like time trial, whatever it is.
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  I would say be careful and don't get hurt.
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  But once in a while, I think if you haven't done something hard,
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  do something hard. And for me, I'm always going to
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  probably do it on an uphill or a flat, but usually an uphill.
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  I think it's a lot safer, lower impact.
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  And yeah, you have less risk of like rolling an ankle or like
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  I'm done time trialing downhills.
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  I just, for me, it's just not worth.
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  It it's it's. I feel like I'm getting to a
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  point where it's less about fitness and more just about, I
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  don't know how strong your legs are making sure you're you're
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  skilled at. And I don't really want to race
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  any like crazy short distance up downs right now.
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  So, so for me, the risk reward for time travelling downhills
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  is, is is getting very low. So I'm going to do time trials
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  on uphills or flats. I think if you throw in a couple
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  track workouts, you'd probably be good to like RIP a 5K or 10K
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  without getting hurt or anything like that.
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  But yeah, throwing some, some stuff in.
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  I think I posted a little bit on my Instagram and in a couple
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  places like, yeah, throw yourself in the mix a little
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  bit. It's going to help you.
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  And so that's, I think, I think throwing myself in the mix a
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  week ago helped me for this effort.
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  So yeah, running it the second time, I just, I figured it was
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  going to be better. I think pacing it.
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  I also did a better job pacing it.
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  I I think I did a better job pacing it, but then I look back
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  and I was like, no, I think I was just kind of faster from the
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  start, during the middle and at the end.
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  So like I just ran the whole thing faster, which is good.
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  Like I didn't, I didn't go out harder the second time and like
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  pace poorly. And I think this again comes
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  with, I think I was just more comfortable staying in the red
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  for that push because he, I feel like ultra runners, you know,
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  you don't get in the red a ton. And I think, I think short
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  distance people, roadrunners know like it is OK to feel
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  horrible and be in so much pain and your body can like keep
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  pushing. And so I think I got it and I
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  was like, all right, no, like I, I kind of serve, I survived.
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  I think I can push a little bit harder.
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  So just getting more comfy in that in that true redlining
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  stage. And that's just going to come
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  from doing more of these short things.
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  And especially like, come on off of it quick.
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  Because if I did this and then a few weeks later I go again, it's
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  like, did I lose my my red line experience of a pushing through
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  that? Like how how long does that
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  adaptation, that mental fortitude last?
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  Who knows? But I think it definitely helped
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  running it again. And then, yeah, mental
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  fortitude. This is this is something that
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  one I watched the Conor man's documentary on YouTube twice.
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  But between the efforts, once I just, I watched it was so good.
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  And then the second time I I was like, Jocelyn, you got to watch
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  this. So we watched it again.
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  And I think just just seeing other people pushing it, like
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  he's notorious for just pushing his workouts really hard sets
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  the American record like one of the fittest Americans ever in in
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  distance running. I think just seeing some of the
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  workouts and getting some of that motivation was just like,
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  all right, I need to go harder. Like these these guys go so
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  hard. So I don't know, just watching a
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  Connor man's documentary make you faster.
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  Yes, maybe it may be faster. Another thing that I want to
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  talk about a male post is on my Instagram at some point, but I
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  listen to a Brandon Newbold podcast.
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  I forget maybe it's on like the Rise and Shine podcast.
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  I I think it was an old, they may be rebranded or something,
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  but Brandon Newbold. I've been a fan of Brandon
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  Newbold for a long time. If you don't know them, look
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  them up. He he's I mean, he's a coach
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  right now. He coaches at Phillip Phillip
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  Exeter High School. But and I don't think he races
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  anymore, but a handful of years ago he was one of the best
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  runners in New England, like marathoners on trails, super
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  fast, super interesting guy, cool story.
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  I love listening to the podcast. So it's definitely a good
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  listen. And he said a few things about
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  racing in that podcast that got me kind of hyped up.
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  One of them just being, and this is from being around like track
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  and cross country kids, like he coaches high school people.
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  He just, he, he was just talking about racing more like being OK
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  with the pain and learning how to get the most out of yourself
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  and dig deep. Like talking about some of these
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  kids, they don't, they don't know how hard they can push yet.
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  And, and that's a cool thing to kind of experience.
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  And obviously he went into the pain cave like for all of his
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  races, like he was, he was talking like he was saying when
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  I raced, nothing was beautiful about it.
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  I raged the whole time. He was saying my mindset in a
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  rage was death or dishonor. Anytime I was in a race like
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  towards the end and I was like competing with somebody, he was
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  like, I, I, there was no question.
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  I was going to go as hard as I can, like I'm going to try to
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  pass this person, even if they're faster, even if I can't
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  keep it up. I have to go 100% all out to the
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  limit and and that just got me fired up, you know, so I'm like,
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  I have to push harder like that. The first push was not my
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  hardest. And, and yeah, he also said
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  something about, I don't know if it was his code or somebody
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  else's quote, but he said one of the things he loved about
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  running was like he had this epiphany or someone says that
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  you have this epiphany where I can run as hard as I as I can
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  and nothing's going to happen to me.
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  Like nothing's bad is going to happen to you.
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  Like you can just go and run yourself into the depths of hell
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  and nothing's going to happen. You're going to be OK at the
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  end. And so that podcast, some of
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  what he was talking about was just getting me fired up.
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  So I think I dug deeper mentally in that red zone because digging
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  deep deeper in the red zone versus in the at the end of an
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  ultra completely different, completely different.
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  I think I could be more scared of of the red zone than the
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  late. Stages of an ultra.
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  They're both really scary. They're both really scary
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  because. It really is your whole entire
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  body just just being like screaming at you, please stop.
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  And you just have to be like, no, keep going.
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  And so I, yeah, I think a lot of of efforts.
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  It's, it's it's it's really mental.
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  Running is really mental. I forget this guy was reading
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  the Rules of Running. Shut up.
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  Matt and Alyssa, They my, yeah, my brother and sister-in-law,
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  they got me a book for Christmas and I was reading The Rules of
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  Running. And one of them was this guy who
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  I should know, and I forget his name, but I don't know him, but
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  he was like one of the best American runners back in the
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  day. He had some sort of tragic
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  incident where he passed away. But he always said, I don't run
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  to see who's fastest. I run to see who has the most
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  guts. So I really think the person who
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  has the most guts in runs is usually going to come out close
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  to the top no matter, you know, So you got to run harder.
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  Tell us some of like the mental fortitude stuff.
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  And then lastly, this one, I was like, it's not like I was going
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  to hide it or not. I think this is a very well
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  documented thing. I'm not going to, this is not a
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  nutritional advice. Find, find some sort of a
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  nutritionist, but I took bicarb this time and I didn't the last
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  time. And part of me in my head is
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  like, I really hope that the entire reason why I ran that a
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  lot faster was not just because of the bicarb.
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  Like I go through all these lists of things like mental and
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  it could have just been the bicarb that helped.
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  Obviously it's going to help somewhat.
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  There's lots of studies. I don't know how much it, it
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  helps, but I dabble with it a lot.
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  Usually I will just split. It's really expensive.
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  So I'll, I'll split up the servings in half.
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  I, I don't know, it's something I've experiment with.
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  I think all of the pros are using it right now.
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  Some people are probably going to give me Flack for or, or
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  think of giving me Flack because like, oh, he's taking bike for,
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  for like a local peak or local crown.
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  But hey, everyone's got the same rules, you know, No, this is not
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  a nutritional advice. This is not a nutritional
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  advice. But I will say all of your
• 19:14
  favorite elite endurance runners are, are taking bicarb all the
• 19:19
  time. So it's just like how the sport
• 19:22
  is evolving and why it's getting so fast.
• 19:24
  And so yeah, I mean, was it was it is it cheating?
• 19:27
  I don't know. We'll see.
• 19:28
  I mean, I would assume that for sure.
• 19:31
  Who who had the crown before me? Dylan.
• 19:33
  Yeah, Dylan Shaloos. I for sure don't think he took
• 19:35
  bicarb before his push. And Speaking of yeah, he had the
• 19:40
  crown. He's a local crusher.
• 19:42
  I've actually never met him, but he's super fast.
• 19:45
  He has like every crown in cough sound, but he he ran 20 miles
• 19:50
  after running. Yeah, 6730 pace up, up, up that
• 19:54
  that climb, which is which is just crazy.
• 19:57
  Like for me, I I don't know, it's just crazy tougher than me.
• 20:01
  But yeah, so that those are kind of like my thoughts on how I
• 20:05
  improved again. I, I don't know, like I posted a
• 20:07
  little bit about it and I don't, I don't know even how it's like
• 20:10
  coming off like. I don't it's not the craziest
• 20:13
  time, but for me it was like a very good, it was a strong run,
• 20:17
  a really good sign, like a 450, great adjusted pace.
• 20:21
  Like on road it's a little bit like, I don't know, but for for
• 20:24
  seven, 715 minutes, I mean, it comes out to a mile and a half.
• 20:28
  If that were like flat, you know, 450 pace.
• 20:31
  I feel like uphills are usually like the gap is always like a
• 20:36
  little bit slower than I feel like an equivalent flat pace
• 20:41
  would be, which doesn't make sense, right?
• 20:42
  Like it's a grade adjusted pace. So that is the pace, but I just
• 20:46
  feel like grade adjust. Like you see people go out run
• 20:48
  grade adjusted and you know, it's always harder that like a
• 20:51
  630 grade adjusted is pretty hard, but a 630 flat is not, I
• 20:56
  think on the same level. Maybe it's because I stay on
• 20:58
  trails more, but for me like a, a, a 435 to 4:45, if you want to
• 21:05
  give me a little bit of extra credit on a flat for, for 7/7/15
• 21:10
  like that's, that's really good. That is, that is a improvement
• 21:12
  for me. So I was really stoked about it.
• 21:15
  And I want to kind of give the whole rundown for you guys.
• 21:17
  So I thought, yeah, there, I just had a lot of good thoughts
• 21:20
  on it. And the other thing I want to
• 21:22
  say, and I mentioned this, I don't know if I mentioned this
• 21:25
  earlier, but oh, this is going to go into the injury talk
• 21:28
  because I've been injured this winter.
• 21:30
  So my train has been a little bit different, but I, I look
• 21:32
  back on my, on my, my chart and I had not run a road run under 8
• 21:39
  minute pace for three months before this effort.
• 21:43
  So it was a 7:30. I ran at like a 710 up a
• 21:47
  mountain. And you know, you could think
• 21:50
  that is not, you know, conducive to fast running, like running
• 21:54
  slow all the time. And I think a few thoughts.
• 21:57
  The first one, aerobic aerobic your aerobic system is the
• 22:02
  number one thing that you can train for endurance sports like
• 22:06
  that is by far everyone says this, everyone knows this uphill
• 22:10
  athlete Killian roaches everybody.
• 22:12
  You want to be as aerobically fit as possible and that just
• 22:15
  means a lot of slow miles like this is like the whole everyone
• 22:19
  knows this. Run lots of slow miles and even
• 22:23
  though you're not getting like the leg strength and speed from
• 22:25
  running slow, you're developing aerobic.
• 22:27
  So I've been running slow for a long time years and I feel like
• 22:31
  it's finally paying dividends even when I'm not training super
• 22:36
  fast stuff. Even if you're training slow
• 22:39
  running cross training, if you're developing your aerobic
• 22:43
  capacity, you can still get faster.
• 22:45
  So I think that's number one. I think that the second thing is
• 22:48
  you can get, yeah, well that'll be OK.
• 22:53
  The second thing is you can get fit doing mountain efforts,
• 22:59
  doing Stairmaster workouts, doing incline tremor workouts,
• 23:03
  doing cross training esque workouts.
• 23:05
  I think mountain fitness does translate to Rd. fitness.
• 23:09
  So even if you're not doing track.
• 23:11
  Stuff road work all the time if you were doing workouts on
• 23:14
  hills. You are going to be getting
• 23:16
  fitter and stronger. Now, obviously I ran a hill, it
• 23:19
  was a little bit of a hill effort, but it was a lower grade
• 23:21
  incline. So I needed some turnover.
• 23:24
  So even without, you know, practicing that turnover other
• 23:28
  than like hill strides at the end of a run, your fitness is
• 23:31
  still going to carry you there. So that's the, that's the kind
• 23:35
  of like the things I was thinking about.
• 23:36
  And going back to the Connor Mance documentary, he Connor
• 23:40
  Mance runs his easy runs at 7 minute pace.
• 23:44
  Anybody listening, if anyone listening is faster than Conor
• 23:47
  Mance, please DM me and I'll, I'll show you, I'll do whatever
• 23:49
  you want. No, no, no, like, you know, so
• 23:53
  obviously everything's going to vary, but I, I just think a lot,
• 23:56
  a lot of people do their easy runs too fast.
• 23:59
  Conor Mance, this is a 7 minute pace.
• 24:01
  I actually don't know if that's true.
• 24:02
  They didn't even say that in the documentary.
• 24:04
  I think I looked at online so. This.
• 24:06
  Could just be propaganda, but I do think like most of my easy
• 24:11
  runs are 8 to 9 minutes, 9 to 10.
• 24:15
  You know, it's it's slow and it's supposed to be slow.
• 24:18
  It's supposed to let you recover and do harder workouts in
• 24:20
  between. So those are kind of my, some of
• 24:23
  my thoughts are running easy. I think again, that is me not
• 24:28
  doing sub 8 minute paces on roads is not on purpose.
• 24:32
  I was dealing with an ankle this winter and I just couldn't stand
• 24:35
  like those fast or high impact things.
• 24:38
  And so ideally I would be doing more of that fast work, just not
• 24:41
  as easy runs. It would be speed work, track
• 24:43
  worth, interval, stuff like that.
• 24:45
  So this is that's going to lead us into the injury talk that
• 24:48
  we'll go into today. But that that's like the main
• 24:51
  thing that I want to kind of like put across like I'm not a
• 24:53
  fast short distance Rd. person. I don't train it much, but
• 24:56
  mountain fitness can translate over over to the roads, even
• 25:00
  though it was a road up a mountain.
• 25:01
  So those are my thoughts on the effort.
• 25:04
  And then the last thing I want to say, like my reflection, I
• 25:07
  kind of was saying like, you know, this effort, it was a it
• 25:09
  was a confidence booster for me for sure, like going out there
• 25:12
  and and running the 450 gap uphill.
• 25:15
  I think that that's really right where I want to be right now.
• 25:18
  And I think it's hard to compare like I don't know, like I don't
• 25:22
  have a good 5K time. I don't have a good like I don't
• 25:24
  know where my fitness is at overall, but I I'm feeling like
• 25:27
  I'm getting fitter over time and that's the trending in the good
• 25:30
  direction. But a few, one thing that I
• 25:33
  really, I'm starting to transition to thinking about is
• 25:39
  everyone's competitive, everyone out here in these races that I
• 25:42
  don't know, most people are trying to get faster, trying to
• 25:45
  get the the best of themselves. And a lot of, you know, faster
• 25:49
  people are trying to be the best or trying to win races or FKTS
• 25:52
  or crowns or whatever it is. And I think I think I've had a
• 25:57
  little bit of a shift from and not that I want to try to be the
• 26:01
  best, like I'm shifting from trying to be the best to trying
• 26:05
  to be the best I can be. And I don't know, I guess I mean
• 26:09
  that a little bit, but not in a sense like I didn't think I'd be
• 26:12
  I'd be Jim Wombley, Conor man, Conor Mance, right?
• 26:15
  Like the elite runners are just out outside of my of my reach in
• 26:19
  terms of, you know, fitness and just pure freak ability, like
• 26:22
  all that stuff. So I know I'm never going to be
• 26:25
  the best runner, but I think I really want to start putting
• 26:30
  myself out there and and just pushing me to the maximum of my
• 26:34
  ability, like going out and putting myself in uncomfortable
• 26:38
  situations. Maybe more competitive race,
• 26:40
  maybe a shorter race and not treating every races like the
• 26:44
  Olympics. You know, if I fail, if I
• 26:47
  finish, you know, 20th place or 50 or whatever it is, I should
• 26:51
  start putting myself outside of my comfort zone.
• 26:54
  Because the more I do that, the more I'm just going to learn and
• 26:58
  grow. And, and, and, and it's actually
• 27:00
  holding me back not doing some of those things right now, like
• 27:04
  just saving efforts for, you know, do one or two efforts that
• 27:08
  suit me perfectly every year. That's kind of what I've been
• 27:10
  doing. And there has been a reason for
• 27:12
  that. Like I really wanted to develop
• 27:15
  bass, get my legs toughened up and not overdo it.
• 27:18
  Try not to get injured these years.
• 27:20
  And you know, I've gotten over faster over the years and I'm
• 27:24
  feeling more confident and comfortable and like fear of
• 27:28
  failing, I guess is getting is getting less scary.
• 27:31
  All the elite runners that that that you love watching or
• 27:34
  whatever, they race all the time.
• 27:36
  And some of these people are losing all the time.
• 27:39
  And yeah, just getting over that that kind of hurdle I think is
• 27:43
  going to be a big step for me. And I think like even the
• 27:46
  podcast, putting myself out there kind of thing is going to
• 27:50
  be a big step because like, honestly, I know that when I,
• 27:54
  you know, not that I have a target on my back, but if I'm
• 27:57
  putting myself out here talking about some of these efforts,
• 27:59
  posting on Instagram, like this guy, he just posted on travel,
• 28:03
  whatever, there are going to be some people who are like, I
• 28:05
  screw this guy. I want to, you know, come take
• 28:07
  his time or I want to compete against him or run against some
• 28:10
  and more people are going to be taking shots, right?
• 28:13
  And I think that's good for me. I actually want that.
• 28:16
  I would love for everyone to jump into my races, getting as
• 28:20
  competitive as I want, go take my crowns, my times, all this
• 28:23
  thing, all this stuff. I think I've never been one to
• 28:28
  be like a crown chaser or be a cherry picker for like different
• 28:31
  races and things. Personally, my thought process
• 28:34
  is like if I get a crown and somebody really fast goes out
• 28:37
  and immediately just takes my crown and I'm like close to
• 28:40
  them. I'm like, sweet, I'm close to
• 28:42
  someone really fast, you know, like I don't have, I don't care
• 28:45
  about being #2 like I really just care about putting in my
• 28:48
  best effort for a lot of, for a lot of these things.
• 28:51
  And, and yeah, that's, that's been kind of like a big, a big
• 28:56
  step for me. So I don't know, maybe some
• 28:58
  people can relate, maybe they can't.
• 29:00
  Maybe I'm just like, so like, you know, I just psych
• 29:02
  everything up and, and really nobody cares about your running.
• 29:05
  Like, you know, you care where you're running way more than
• 29:07
  other people. But that's something that I've
• 29:09
  kind of been growing into and I'm definitely going to race a
• 29:12
  lot more this year, You know, fingers crossed that I stay
• 29:15
  healthy and I'm excited about it.
• 29:16
  I'm excited about it. I obviously have my kind of a,
• 29:20
  you know, a couple big goal races that will be in my
• 29:22
  wheelhouse this year. But like this other stuff I'm
• 29:25
  going to I'm going to keep doing and I think it's really going to
• 29:27
  help me as an athlete and more competition, more efforts, more
• 29:32
  discomfort, uncomfort, unknowing is going to help me.
• 29:37
  The other thing too that that about this effort, like, I don't
• 29:39
  know, this is part of it is like I may I should say it, but I
• 29:42
  will. I think everyone there are some
• 29:44
  people I definitely have. A chip on my shoulder, let's say
• 29:47
  like a. Decent little size.
• 29:48
  Chip on my. Shoulder and a lot of people do
• 29:51
  and I think a lot of athletes do and to be competitive, you know
• 29:54
  you actually I think you need this a little bit, but there's
• 29:57
  definitely a chip on my shoulder.
• 29:58
  You know, kind of thinking like, you know, I've only done a few
• 30:02
  races, right I didn't do it an official race last year, so I'm
• 30:06
  kind of like I I've showed up for a few things I've been
• 30:08
  social media dark all the time I just pop up and strive and then
• 30:11
  I go away kind of thing once in a while.
• 30:14
  He probably doesn't post because he's because he's slow or, you
• 30:17
  know, he can only do trails and mountains and, and, and that is
• 30:22
  a big chip on my shoulder. And, and I think one, one thing
• 30:25
  that I guess I don't even know, but what I'm kind of say is
• 30:28
  like, I, I can run and I want to run and I want to compete this
• 30:32
  year. And so, yeah, maybe a little bit
• 30:35
  of a, a little bit of chip on my shoulder.
• 30:37
  Like I'm, I'm racing hard this year and I'm super excited about
• 30:41
  it. And whatever's going to happen
• 30:42
  is going to happen. You know, hopefully I just stay
• 30:45
  healthy and can get in a lot of efforts and yeah, but but I
• 30:49
  guess The thing is, yeah, maybe this is I, I don't, I, I can
• 30:53
  run. You know what, I'll just say
• 30:54
  that chest out. I can run and I'm going to run
• 30:57
  this year. And so I'm kind of fired up
• 31:00
  about it. So yeah, that those are my
• 31:03
  thoughts. Those are my thoughts and my
• 31:04
  effort. And I don't know, maybe some
• 31:08
  people can relate or, or that helps you out or whatever.
• 31:11
  If you're listening this, you want to go get the crown, go get
• 31:13
  the crown, go, go push that time down further.
• 31:17
  But that's all I had. We're going to jump into the
• 31:19
  injury talk next. So I mentioned this.
• 31:25
  I guess I'll just do this kind of like fairly quickly, but I
• 31:28
  mentioned the injury this year. But first I'll just talk about
• 31:32
  like my overall injury history getting into running.
• 31:36
  Probably 5 or so years ago I probably started training
• 31:38
  seriously. 4. Ish years ago now 3 1/2.
• 31:42
  No, probably 4 years. I've been running six days a
• 31:45
  week. What year is it?
• 31:46
  I don't yeah, probably 4 years. I've been running six days a
• 31:48
  week. Training hard.
• 31:50
  But yeah, when I started out running, it was it.
• 31:53
  I was getting hurt a lot, like everything, you know, hurt.
• 31:57
  I had runner's knee a lot at the beginning.
• 31:59
  I had this hand, you know, hamstring.
• 32:01
  I've had, you know, I had shins a lot when I was getting into
• 32:04
  it. And I think one thing that I
• 32:07
  would tell everybody, if you're getting into running, you need
• 32:12
  to learn about training theory and easy runs helping you.
• 32:17
  I think a lot of people get into running and they're just running
• 32:19
  too fast all the time. Most of my training, super easy,
• 32:24
  super enjoyable. I'm not out of breath, it
• 32:27
  doesn't hurt. It's fun, It's outdoor, outdoors
• 32:29
  in the woods, it's good. That is the best training for
• 32:33
  your aerobic system and for a lot of people that's going to be
• 32:37
  walking. So when you're getting into it,
• 32:40
  one, just be careful, don't too much do too much too fast 'cause
• 32:43
  you will get hurt. That's going to not running is
• 32:46
  going to slow your progress way more than training bad or
• 32:49
  running slower or whatever. If you have any periods of not
• 32:52
  training, that's going to hurt you the most.
• 32:54
  So avoid that. And then two, slow it down and
• 32:58
  not just slow it down to make sure you don't get hurt.
• 33:00
  Slow it down and understand that this is how you get better.
• 33:04
  And I think it took me a while to maybe accept I, I got lucky
• 33:08
  when I, when I started, what was it, 20?
• 33:11
  When I started with Christina Folsic, she was my coach for a
• 33:14
  year. She had me running like the zone
• 33:16
  1 all the time. And I think that was probably
• 33:19
  the best thing for me. I was really slow at the
• 33:23
  beginning. I was really, really slow.
• 33:24
  And it really stunk looking at other people fronting.
• 33:27
  But I'm finally like, it's, it's paying dividends now and it
• 33:32
  feels amazing. And it's, it's, it's just a good
• 33:34
  way to train. It's easier on your body.
• 33:38
  And if you are going to commit to getting faster and running
• 33:41
  for a long time, you should be training easy a lot.
• 33:43
  So that's just like the one thing of like, you know, every
• 33:46
  beginner runner is going to have just a little bit of a curve of
• 33:49
  getting your legs tough into running because running is such
• 33:52
  high impact, Running is high impact, mountain running is high
• 33:56
  impact. I mean, downhill guys, that's
• 33:58
  the first thing that you do fast when you get into run at trail
• 34:02
  running. And it's like the hardest thing
• 34:04
  on your legs. Please do not just bomb
• 34:07
  downhills from the start because that is going to lead you to a
• 34:10
  lot of trouble. And yeah, so I would just be
• 34:13
  just be conscious about how you're training for getting into
• 34:15
  it. And then the two big injuries
• 34:17
  that I've had, one was a bone stress injury, which are like
• 34:21
  you have soft tissue injuries and then bone stress.
• 34:24
  Now this is not PT advice, is not medical advice.
• 34:28
  Soft tissue injuries are fairly easy to come back from.
• 34:32
  Keep keep it out of three out of 10 or less pain.
• 34:35
  And it's probably just going to get better, you know, in a
• 34:37
  couple weeks, depending on how bad it hurts.
• 34:41
  And so if it's soft tissue, you can just work through it a
• 34:44
  little bit. Just do some PT exercises, get
• 34:46
  some blood there and you're going to be fine.
• 34:49
  But bone, bone injuries are the no joke, can shut down people's
• 34:53
  running. So bone stress injuries, there's
• 34:56
  different grades to it's basically your bone is inflamed,
• 34:59
  not your soft tissue, your bone. And then if you, it gets bad
• 35:02
  enough, it's a fracture. So it's a broken leg or foot or
• 35:06
  whatever it is. That's the one injury that you
• 35:10
  really can't, you can't have any pain when you're coming back
• 35:14
  from it. You have to keep it at a dead 0
• 35:15
  pain, which usually means no running, which is hard that I'm
• 35:20
  not going to lie to you. You can train through it and
• 35:21
  kind of like string along your fitness.
• 35:23
  But if you have a bone stress injury and you're not training,
• 35:25
  you're going to you're going to get, you're going to lose
• 35:28
  fitness. That's just what it is and it
• 35:29
  stinks. So you want to avoid it.
• 35:32
  So my first one came when I started training a bunch.
• 35:35
  I was just running way too much like I, I think I went from
• 35:38
  running like three days a week, maybe 4:00 to 6:00 and just just
• 35:43
  even though it was easy running, it just it broke me.
• 35:46
  So I had shin splints or whatever bone stress in both of
• 35:48
  my shins with the grade below fracture and it was really hard.
• 35:53
  That was the one injury that really, I mean, it was hard just
• 35:57
  because there's no, it's just loading, there's no, there's
• 36:00
  exercises you can do, but it's really just, you have to load
• 36:02
  your legs less so they can heal. And so I did a ton of cross
• 36:06
  training and, and I probably lost fitness, but I kind of
• 36:10
  found my way through it. But it's basically just like you
• 36:12
  cannot run like these other people can run until you work up
• 36:16
  to it. And it took me years.
• 36:17
  It literally took me years to be able to run higher mileage.
• 36:22
  Like I was running 20 or 30 miles for a long time and even
• 36:27
  now it's still a work in progress to get my mileage up.
• 36:30
  Like a lot of people, I do not train the amount of mileage a
• 36:33
  lot of people train. I'm probably close in volume
• 36:36
  now, but it's a lot of cross training, a lot of specific low
• 36:40
  impact after high impact days kind of training.
• 36:44
  And it's kept me healthy from overuse injuries since then,
• 36:49
  which has been a huge thing the last couple years.
• 36:51
  I haven't really had overuse injuries, which I think it's
• 36:54
  just you, you know, I've dialed in my training.
• 36:56
  I found out a way to train that's good for, for me.
• 37:00
  Everybody's different, but it's good for me.
• 37:02
  It's good for my White Mountain efforts, you know, mountain
• 37:04
  efforts, trail efforts and, and it works and I can get faster
• 37:08
  and I can, I can, yeah, I can. I can train, train a good
• 37:12
  amount. So that's been good.
• 37:14
  The other injury, which is the injury from this year, which I
• 37:17
  guess you know, we'll kind of talk through, is I had a bad
• 37:20
  ankle roll last year. And ankle rolls, usually soft
• 37:25
  tissue, it's a muscle or ligament.
• 37:27
  Usually it's a ligament and it takes a little bit longer.
• 37:29
  It kind of stinks. I always tell people if you roll
• 37:31
  your ankle, here's the good news.
• 37:33
  It's pretty straightforward getting back from my rolled
• 37:35
  ankle. The bad news, it's probably
• 37:37
  going to take a little bit longer than you wanted to.
• 37:40
  It's pretty straightforward. Do some ankle exercises, you
• 37:43
  know, stay off of it when it hurts, don't push it through out
• 37:46
  of 10 pain that whole thing and you'll you'll get back to where
• 37:48
  where you were. But I had a bad ankle roll last
• 37:51
  year being being stupid basically sending an effort
• 37:55
  three weeks after after my my 20 the launch to dodge 22 hour
• 37:59
  effort not advisable. Very stupid ego running don't do
• 38:04
  it learn my lesson. Shame on me What what happened?
• 38:09
  There's roll my ankle bad. I have one good ankle and I have
• 38:13
  one bad ankle and this is going to be some gypsy mind games and
• 38:16
  you guys my good ankle used to be the one that I broke 10 years
• 38:20
  ago in college that I have a plate and like 10 screws in
• 38:24
  titanium plate, titanium screws. My bad ankle is my, my, my
• 38:28
  unbroken previous ankle that I've just rolled a bunch and
• 38:35
  I've never had a bad rule that like kept me out of anything on
• 38:37
  the on the bad ankle. And the bad ankle is feeling
• 38:40
  good now. And now it's my good ankle.
• 38:43
  The one that I rolled last year with the with the the plate and
• 38:47
  everything I rolled it. I did the whole came back to
• 38:51
  training too soon. It was too soon too much.
• 38:53
  It kind of like regressed the progress and I did, you know, a
• 38:59
  bunch of cross training PT, the crap out of it and it didn't get
• 39:01
  better for a few months. I pretty much could only do
• 39:04
  uphill efforts last fall, which really stunk because I had a
• 39:06
  couple things that I wanted to do, but but it wasn't getting
• 39:11
  better. And in this winter I finally
• 39:12
  went to APT and was like, I don't know why this is not
• 39:15
  getting better. I put in the time I'm, I'm doing
• 39:17
  everything I can to like improve my recovery.
• 39:19
  I don't know what's going on and basically what I what I deduced
• 39:25
  that. That plate.
• 39:26
  You know, I, I broke my ankle in college and I won't get into how
• 39:30
  I did it the whole story, but basically I messed up the ankle
• 39:32
  and there's a plate in there and the ankle like the cartilage,
• 39:36
  the X-rays, it all looks good, but I don't have a ton of
• 39:39
  mobility in the ankle. There's still hardware in there
• 39:42
  like the screws and everything can stay in forever, which I
• 39:45
  don't think it's a big deal. It's my fibula.
• 39:47
  So there's a, there's a, there's a metal thing on the outside of
• 39:50
  my fibula. There's a bunch of little
• 39:51
  screws. And then there's one screw that
• 39:53
  goes across my whole ankle ball. I think it's called an asthmatic
• 39:58
  screw. And it goes across the whole
• 40:01
  thing to keep your ankle locked in when it's healing.
• 40:04
  And then it's meant to break once you get more of your
• 40:06
  mobility and shrink back. So it's been broken for like a
• 40:08
  long time, eight or nine years and.
• 40:12
  Basically my whole ankle, it's got a little bit of kind of, it
• 40:15
  just looks a little weird. It's you can see kind of the
• 40:17
  stuff pointing out and it's just, it was not functioning
• 40:21
  like an ankle. I had horrible range of motion,
• 40:24
  which was putting stress on everything else.
• 40:26
  It was not super strong, even though the plate actually makes
• 40:30
  my bone really strong. Like, I don't even know if I
• 40:32
  could. No, I probably could.
• 40:33
  I don't want to say this anymore, but like my fibula is,
• 40:36
  is stronger now, but the ligaments and stuff probably
• 40:40
  aren't low mobility. There's just, it's not a
• 40:43
  functioning ankle. And so when it was trying to
• 40:45
  heal, if you have something that's not functioning and it's
• 40:49
  been injured, it just doesn't go together.
• 40:51
  And I was like, why is this not healing?
• 40:52
  Why is this not healing? And it's like, I didn't, he's
• 40:55
  like, you measured my mobility and he's like strength.
• 40:57
  It's like it actually was pretty strong, but the mobility was not
• 41:00
  there. And so it's loading things
• 41:01
  differently. It's allowing things not to
• 41:03
  heal. So I've been working on
• 41:05
  mobility, I've been working on strength.
• 41:07
  I've been do it every time to basically restore function in my
• 41:10
  ankle. And the last, you know, probably
• 41:13
  month or two, it's it's been getting better, which has been a
• 41:17
  big relief. So a couple lessons from this.
• 41:20
  If you have something serious that's not getting better, that
• 41:22
  should go see a medical professional.
• 41:25
  I think a lot of the things you can figure out online, but
• 41:27
  sometimes you just need somebody who knows what they're talking
• 41:29
  about. Go to somebody good, do the
• 41:32
  work. Don't, don't, don't slack off
• 41:34
  complain. You know, everyday I skip my
• 41:36
  ankle exercise. I hate myself.
• 41:39
  I don't do it too much. Once in a while I do.
• 41:41
  But staying on top of everything you need to do to keep yourself
• 41:44
  healthy, that is part of training and that is the hardest
• 41:46
  part of training. So that's pretty, pretty
• 41:50
  important. And then and then, yeah, like
• 41:53
  just battling when you are injured, you just have to battle
• 41:57
  to keep fitness. Anything you can do to stay fit,
• 41:59
  you got to do it. It's dark days.
• 42:02
  But when you come out of an injury, it will feel better than
• 42:06
  you think it will feel when you're injured.
• 42:07
  So it feels really good to get out.
• 42:09
  I'm crossing my fingers that I don't like regress from here on
• 42:12
  out. But hopefully I keep doing what
• 42:14
  I'm doing. Everything's going to work out
• 42:16
  how it should and and the ankle will get better.
• 42:19
  So that was kind of the ankle, the ankle stuff for today.
• 42:24
  I thought there was one more thing I want to say about the
• 42:25
  ankle, but I'm I'm totally spacing it function better
• 42:29
  strong. I probably forget OK, if you
• 42:34
  were watching on on YouTube or Spotify, I know most people
• 42:37
  listen on Spotify, but it does say that a lot of people will
• 42:42
  watch the video on Spotify. But if you're wondering the last
• 42:45
  20 minutes what's going on, basically I had to delete, you
• 42:50
  know, I messed up the footage. And so there's a little bit of a
• 42:53
  back story here. First off, I'm proud to say I
• 42:57
  think this is the first time I've ever lost footage.
• 43:02
  So I made it 20, you know, 27 episodes without losing any
• 43:06
  footage. But I had to do I had to put the
• 43:08
  stock footage in for you guys. So I just put like an old
• 43:11
  YouTube video, just some like scenic.
• 43:13
  I think it was on the Kinsman's nice little.
• 43:15
  You know, scenic. Visual for you guys with the
• 43:18
  podcast. But yeah, the last 20 minutes
• 43:20
  were just pure podcast because I'm trying to step up, you know,
• 43:26
  I'm trying to like I, I, I kind of said at the beginning of the
• 43:28
  podcast, I want to make it good quality.
• 43:31
  So I got, I got good mics. I want to just put out at least
• 43:35
  a good, you know, I don't want to, I don't want it to look like
• 43:38
  a hack, just, you know, blocked up, which is what I am and what
• 43:41
  I did, but I don't want to look like that.
• 43:43
  So I got I got a new camera. Honestly, I got a new iPhone,
• 43:47
  which just shot better video than the little, the little
• 43:53
  camera I was using before for all the podcasts.
• 43:55
  So I was like, all right, you know, I'm going to invest in a
• 43:57
  in a better camera system. You know, it's it's going to
• 44:01
  make the podcast better, whatever.
• 44:03
  So I go and bring it to use it for the first time and I get to,
• 44:08
  you know, I don't, I can't film it right outside.
• 44:10
  So I drive usually sometimes or if I'm on a trail hub, whatever,
• 44:13
  I go to my podcasting location, which varies, but outdoors and I
• 44:18
  get everything hooked up, all the mics, everything, computers
• 44:21
  running and, and I put my phone up on the tripod, tripod.
• 44:28
  I start recording. And I realize.
• 44:31
  All of my notes are on my phone and you know, I feel like
• 44:35
  usually, sometimes I get myself into situations where I'm always
• 44:38
  like, I'll figure it out if something happens.
• 44:40
  Like I, you know, maybe I don't think things all the way
• 44:42
  through, but but I'm, I'm willing to kind of battle
• 44:45
  through whatever adversity comes, you know, whether that be
• 44:49
  trying to make a makeshift, whatever.
• 44:52
  And I could not think of a single way to have my notes and
• 44:57
  and use my phone to record the video.
• 45:00
  And usually like at the beginning, I usually will have a
• 45:02
  note sheet. I just didn't have time and I
• 45:04
  had a lot of like race things, race results.
• 45:06
  I want to go through that. I can't just like memorize or
• 45:08
  put down on a quick CHEAT SHEET. So I'm sitting in the bed of my
• 45:12
  truck thinking there is no way for me to re have the notes in
• 45:16
  front of me and record the footage.
• 45:17
  Maybe there is actually, I don't know if an iPhone I could just
• 45:20
  like if I swiped up right now and then zoomed, I don't know.
• 45:24
  So I go back home and I should have just first thing is using a
• 45:29
  new camera. You should bring the old one
• 45:30
  just in case something happens. I didn't.
• 45:32
  So go home, get the camera, come back and like, all right, we're
• 45:35
  going to make this a great podcast.
• 45:37
  You know, don't let this fluster you and you stay in the pocket.
• 45:40
  Don't let it fluster you. And and I start recording the
• 45:44
  podcast in 25 minutes in the the camera, my old camera dies
• 45:49
  because I didn't have it charged.
• 45:51
  So yeah, not good. And so this is like again, did.
• 45:56
  So I'm like, well, I was like, all right, you know what, I am
• 46:00
  just going to free ball it. No notes because we need to get
• 46:03
  that. I want the footage.
• 46:04
  We throw the iPhone up and I'm like, let's go iPhone, This is
• 46:08
  your moment. I I wasn't going to go with you
• 46:10
  today, but you know, next man up mentality.
• 46:13
  So iPhone starts recording. I do it all good.
• 46:18
  I couldn't do the race results. I was like, I'll just film those
• 46:20
  later, which is what I'm doing now.
• 46:23
  And I, I get home and I go to upload the the file onto my
• 46:27
  whatever my editing software and I, I don't know if any of you
• 46:30
  guys are computer heads out there.
• 46:31
  I am not. So this would have meant nothing
• 46:34
  to me a year ago, but now I kind of know what this means.
• 46:37
  I upload the file and my file is 110 gigabytes.
• 46:44
  Now I unlocked this feature like I don't know, it wasn't really
• 46:50
  unlocked. You just had to go and click a
• 46:51
  button. But I unlocked this like high
• 46:53
  resolution editing feature in the new iPhone.
• 46:57
  So the the file is gigantic and it's going to take 4 hours to
• 47:02
  just upload on on my computer, which is not a great computer.
• 47:06
  And then if I put it in my editing software, the whole
• 47:08
  thing would crash like zero chance.
• 47:11
  So I'm like, do I download it for four hours, try to compress
• 47:15
  it on something I don't know. To put that in perspective,
• 47:18
  people, 110 gigabytes for a 20 minute video.
• 47:24
  First off, I mean you, if I had a zit, you could see the zit on
• 47:28
  my zit. The quality.
• 47:30
  I don't even know if I want that quality, that good quality, you
• 47:32
  know what I mean? But my old iPhone that I had the
• 47:38
  entire thing, apps, messages, photos, videos, everything
• 47:43
  together. The storage on that was 50
• 47:45
  gigabytes. OK, so I doubled.
• 47:48
  And I had. That for like 6 years or I don't
• 47:50
  know how about five years or something.
• 47:51
  So basically double the size of the entire iPhone in in 120
• 47:57
  minute video clip. So for that reason, for all the
• 48:01
  headaches it was going to cause me, I just had to click the
• 48:03
  delete button on my phone and throw in some scenic stuff.
• 48:07
  Which honestly though it could be cool.
• 48:09
  Check it out. I thought some of those early
• 48:11
  YouTube videos that I made were pretty good.
• 48:14
  Some people watched them but I I thought they were good scenic.
• 48:16
  They were so hard to capture though, like bringing that
• 48:18
  camera out on my runs was just not a fun experience.
• 48:22
  I look at there's this guy Derek Forbay or I don't know exactly,
• 48:26
  isn't that last name, but look up Derek Forbay, YouTube hiking.
• 48:32
  He has a channel. He's from the northeast.
• 48:34
  I remember he kind of started when I kind of started, I saw
• 48:36
  his page and he he is so good at making those videos.
• 48:41
  All of his videos have thousands of views.
• 48:43
  Like he he just gets, he's over 1000 Subs now.
• 48:45
  So shout out to Derek. But when he does his videos, I
• 48:50
  watch some of them. He said he must set up a Cam, go
• 48:53
  up the mountain, set up a camera, run down the mountain
• 48:56
  right at a frame, and then come on through like he's hiking,
• 49:00
  right, hike through and then go get the camera.
• 49:02
  And he does that for all these hikes.
• 49:05
  And yeah, to get like an awesome documentary film, film quality
• 49:08
  stuff, that's what you have to do.
• 49:10
  And I was just like, there's no way I can sustainably do this.
• 49:14
  It already is really hard to get up to the White Mountains every
• 49:16
  weekend. Like just, you know, it's a long
• 49:18
  drive and long days and stuff. And adding that on top of it was
• 49:21
  too much. So how did I say that?
• 49:25
  Oh yeah. So my old school videos, I used
• 49:28
  to bring the camera on everyone for like 2 months.
• 49:29
  It was awesome. Got some good footage.
• 49:32
  But anywho, that was why you didn't see me for 20 minutes.
• 49:36
  Now we're back on the iPhone. Please leave a comment.
• 49:38
  Be like, wow, this footage at the end of the video is
• 49:40
  spectacular. Andrew, this is so good by Lever
• 49:43
  podcast. I hope the.
• 49:46
  Quality is good though, I hope it.
• 49:47
  Was worth the investment, which I think it will be.
• 49:50
  But the so OK, so I know I think I said before this, like here
• 49:54
  are the race results. And now I just did this little
• 49:56
  thing. One other thing that I wanted to
• 49:59
  talk about first before we get into the race results, which I'm
• 50:02
  going to get to. But there was one thing at the
• 50:05
  injury piece of the video that I was like, oh, I thought there's
• 50:09
  one, one more thing I want to say.
• 50:11
  I remembered it. It was when I initially, I'm
• 50:16
  trying to, yeah, I went to the, I went to the doctor and PT
• 50:19
  about the same time and I'll do a little doctor's spiel.
• 50:24
  I think right now, I mean, like healthcare online, there's so
• 50:28
  much information. Who knows what you know, there's
• 50:30
  so much stuff come out there. It's hard to trust.
• 50:36
  I, I think I've just have trust issues.
• 50:38
  It's hard to trust what is what is being driven by sort of
• 50:41
  making money off this. Who knows the right stuff?
• 50:43
  Does this person know the right stuff?
• 50:45
  Are they cheap? You know, are they expensive?
• 50:47
  Are they booked? Are they not booked?
• 50:49
  Like every good person is booked out months like all this things.
• 50:52
  So I have a hard time with with like getting good information.
• 50:55
  I think like I just need to do things on my own and then test
• 50:58
  it out and then I can can have a good feel for it.
• 51:00
  But I go to the doctors and every time I go to the doctors
• 51:07
  and they asked me, oh, why is something bothering you?
• 51:09
  And, and they're like, oh, what have you been doing?
• 51:12
  And I kind of tell them, oh, I run kind of a lot.
• 51:13
  And they're like, well, how much is a lot?
• 51:15
  And then I tell them. And then they're like, oh, yeah,
• 51:18
  I mean that just you just doing too much.
• 51:19
  You have to cut it back. But I'm like, I you don't really
• 51:24
  understand how much I regularly do this is this should be no
• 51:29
  problem like I am. I am accustomed to this like
• 51:31
  there is an injury going on. It's not just because half the
• 51:35
  all the time you go to the doctors, it's just stop doing
• 51:37
  stuff. Rest.
• 51:39
  It is what it feels like and it's super frustrating as an
• 51:43
  athlete to go and hear that from a bunch of different people or
• 51:47
  you don't. Half the time I go to the
• 51:48
  doctors, it's like, wow, the X-ray didn't show anything or we
• 51:50
  don't know exactly, or it could be a virus.
• 51:52
  We don't really know exactly. Just let it rest, see if it gets
• 51:55
  better. Like that kind of thing like
• 51:56
  does frustrate me. And one of the things that was
• 51:59
  really frustrating when I went to the doctors this time, and I
• 52:03
  think a little bit shocking, little bit stressful was, yeah,
• 52:08
  like I mentioned, I broke my ankle about 10 years ago.
• 52:10
  So I have a plate hardware in there.
• 52:13
  And the doctor was pretty much like, hey, you know, it's, you
• 52:17
  know, you rolled your ankle, you should be better from that.
• 52:19
  Maybe this is just like, you can't do this crazy running
• 52:23
  stuff on your ankle. Like maybe this is your old
• 52:27
  injury coming back and and, you know, just having problems with
• 52:33
  it. You this might be started
• 52:34
  arthritis like this kind of talk.
• 52:37
  And that just gets me so upset because I mean, one I put my so
• 52:43
  much in the line for like this podcast, run mountain peaks,
• 52:46
  like I have so much big goals and put sort of put out there.
• 52:49
  And if you just tell me I'm not going to be able to run like
• 52:51
  that is not conducive to what I'm trying to do over here.
• 52:55
  So that was like a little bit stressful, but I just don't like
• 52:59
  their gut reaction of of rest and you this is too much and all
• 53:03
  this they, they usually hear. I would rather go and it's, it's
• 53:08
  not. I don't think that doctor was a
• 53:10
  bad doctor. I I've been to, I have one
• 53:12
  person I really like that I couldn't go and see her, but she
• 53:15
  kind of says the same thing sometimes.
• 53:17
  A lot of. PT say the same things and it's.
• 53:19
  I don't think it's it's. Like they are practice
• 53:25
  professionals and they know what they're talking about.
• 53:27
  But I think in the realm of ultra running and endurance
• 53:31
  sports, we're trying to push the limits.
• 53:34
  This is not highly studied. And so they don't get it as much
• 53:38
  or they don't have as much data on people that do this.
• 53:42
  Maybe that's kind of what it is. So I just think, and for me it
• 53:46
  was like, I'm not OK. I'm pretty much ignoring the
• 53:49
  rest of what you're saying because I don't, I don't mess
• 53:51
  with you. I don't mess with your message
• 53:53
  because I'm running. I, I don't care what happens.
• 53:57
  I'm figuring out a way to run. And so I didn't follow up with
• 54:02
  that with the doctor and I didn't go to, to their PTI, went
• 54:06
  to a different PTI, went to somebody who is proactive.
• 54:09
  We'll give him a shout out. Steady state in Portland.
• 54:12
  Kelton's a man Mike Brown, who is my guy right now, he's the
• 54:15
  man. I trust them.
• 54:18
  I think they know what they're doing.
• 54:20
  They understand runners and rest is not for for most people to
• 54:28
  get better. And so I started going there.
• 54:31
  We kind of identified that my ankle is just not functioning
• 54:35
  right. There's lots of things that I
• 54:36
  have to do to, to get this damaged ankle back to, you know,
• 54:40
  reasonably functional and started doing that strengthening
• 54:43
  mobility and the pain has ease and I've been able to go up to
• 54:47
  running and I'm like, I don't have arthritis.
• 54:49
  There's nothing wrong with my ankle.
• 54:52
  I just needed to get someone who, who could tell what was
• 54:56
  going on. It could help me, right?
• 54:57
  Try different things to help me. So yeah, if you, if someone's
• 55:01
  telling you you can't do something and someone's telling
• 55:03
  you like that's too much, you just do less.
• 55:06
  Oh, your knee, you know, this is going to hurt your knees.
• 55:09
  Don't do it. Don't listen to those people.
• 55:11
  Because most of those people, I think just have no idea what
• 55:15
  you're capable of and what they're capable of.
• 55:19
  I think so many people just sit at home and say, damn, you know,
• 55:23
  running. Ah, he gets crazy.
• 55:25
  They do this run stuff, but that's that can't be good for
• 55:27
  you. It's like sitting inside is not
• 55:30
  good for you. OK, sitting inside and not doing
• 55:33
  anything ever is not good for you.
• 55:36
  So that's that's kind of like a battle.
• 55:38
  And so I I wanted to vote voice some of my yeah, voice on my
• 55:43
  thoughts. They're just about yeah, don't
• 55:46
  don't let everyone, anyone get you down.
• 55:48
  Like if you want something figure.
• 55:50
  Out a way. Human body is so amazing and
• 55:56
  yeah, you can battle back through a lot of injuries,
• 55:58
  battle back. But that was one thing.
• 56:01
  Oh gosh, I I don't want to do it again.
• 56:03
  But I feel like there was something else I wanted to say,
• 56:07
  something else I wanted to say. OK, so that was some of the
• 56:13
  injury thoughts I want to throw in there.
• 56:16
  Now we will get to the race results.
• 56:20
  So like I said, like I've said before, I want to keep track of
• 56:24
  every old Theresa in New England.
• 56:26
  So I have a spreadsheet and I want to like at least preview or
• 56:29
  follow up with the results for each of them.
• 56:31
  So we're going through and we're taking some, some off that that
• 56:34
  finished up. So the Frozen Heart 900 in
• 56:37
  Connecticut, I talked about it before, it was in February.
• 56:40
  I've been waiting for results, can't find results.
• 56:43
  I'm moving on. This is the results there.
• 56:46
  It's just some, you know, somewhere in the World Wide Web,
• 56:48
  but I can't find it. So that race is wrapped up the
• 56:52
  Burke's Satan sidewalk. 66.66 K and 66.66 hour virtual race
• 57:00
  results from February are posted.
• 57:03
  So this was an all the whole length of February.
• 57:07
  You could have ran this virtual race, submitted results and
• 57:10
  Burke's, it's Burke's has done 3/3 of these virtual races this
• 57:13
  year. We're in the midst of three
• 57:15
  virtual races. So we're going to go through
• 57:18
  those results. First off, Satan sidewalk 66.66
• 57:23
  K stepping on cracks. I don't know, like I think I put
• 57:28
  this in one of my episode descriptions.
• 57:31
  Do you? Are are you?
• 57:32
  Do you? Believe in bad juju.
• 57:35
  I think I believe in bad juju and not saying that I shouldn't
• 57:38
  sign up for this race. I'm recording this on Friday the
• 57:41
  13th. That kid seems not good.
• 57:45
  That seems not good. 66 points sit all this stuff.
• 57:51
  I think some people love that stuff.
• 57:52
  Like some people love scary movies, horror movies.
• 57:55
  Hey, what are you doing Friday night, you know, or like, you
• 57:58
  know, growing up, like what are you doing for now?
• 57:59
  Let's go to a graveyard for no reason.
• 58:01
  It's like I don't I think I'm good.
• 58:03
  I don't. Am I just trying to get scared
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  by these movies? Are there like cool inspiration?
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  Like I don't I don't I'm not a huge scary movie person.
• 58:12
  I don't I don't mess with bad juju a lot like Andrew.
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  Do you believe in ghosts? I'm not sure, but I don't want
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  to mess with it. I don't want if if there's if
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  somebody's saying that a ghost lives in a house, I'm not going
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  to question it. I'm not going to talk smack
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  about it. I'm not going to go visit it.
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  I'm going to let it be. I don't know, but I don't want
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  to find out is is my reaction to that kind of thing.
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  So whoever had the idea for this race, they, they probably are,
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  are one of those people that just like to get a little fright
• 58:43
  in their body, a little fright going through their body.
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  But I don't know what inspired it.
• 58:48
  Satan himself hear the results. So there are four races posted.
• 58:52
  So the double trouble 2 by 66 hour.
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  So I think this means, I don't know if you had to do it like
• 59:01
  130 hours straight or this is you took 266 hour blocks and the
• 59:07
  whole month of March and did as many miles as you can, right?
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  But 100, that's what it like 132 hours.
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  Do some quick math. How many days is that?
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  6 is that five days, 5 1/2? I don't know.
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  I have a calculator here. 5 or 6 days, right?
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  48 hours, 72 is 3. OK.
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  So it's between 5:00 and six days of running.
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  There were two finishers, so two people sign up for this race.
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  Again, these Burke's virtual races, if you're trying to boost
• 59:36
  your ultra sign up score, not a lot of people signed up.
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  Lots of categories. Last month we had somebody sweep
• 59:44
  and go 300 percenters. So you could literally do like
• 59:47
  three or three or four of these races for the first two months
• 59:50
  of the year and just get 600 percents on ultra sign up two
• 59:54
  finishers from this race. You wouldn't have got 100% on
• 59:57
  this one, though. Jonathan Engelstad from
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  Broomfield, Connecticut, Colorado, excuse me, got that
• 1:00:04
  good blood up there. He's 54 years old, so old school
• 1:00:07
  crusher. He ran 352 miles.
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  In 5 1/2 days, which isn't it isn't like consecutive backyard,
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  you know, style, style running, but that is a lot of miles.
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  A 352 mile a week. Oh, my God, it's disgusting.
• 1:00:27
  Who is this guy? His ultrasonic rank is 66.94.
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  Who is this guy? He's got 3034.
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  Yeah, he's got 34 races. Oh yeah.
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  Oh yeah, this is Satan Sidewalk. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
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  So he went two of the categories.
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  So. All right, so I'm jumping ahead
• 1:00:47
  now. I looked at his page
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  specifically. He's got 2 given categories, but
• 1:00:51
  I don't know, it looks like he does a lot of ultra races in
• 1:00:53
  second George Jacomi, Lakeville, MA, 50 years old.
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  He did 271 miles. If I do 271 miles in 5 1/2 days
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  on a virtual ultra sign up, I want to win.
• 1:01:09
  That is shocking. O, that was one and two with no
• 1:01:12
  one else in the race. Now we'll go to the 66 K.
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  So I think this would be a 66 K for time.
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  I don't, I don't know mileage, what the F is a kilometer.
• 1:01:23
  I saw that on Instagram. Watch what the F is a kilometer.
• 1:01:26
  As for the stars and trips, baby, that's some clip from
• 1:01:29
  Instagram and I saw it's very funny, but I don't know what is
• 1:01:32
  that 40 something miles. So to put in perspective, Oh my
• 1:01:36
  God, one guy just smoked the field, Michael de George de
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  Gorgi, sorry, from Albany, NY, 27 years old.
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  He rented in four hours and 48 minutes and then the second
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  place Yuki Chorney, Mont Vernon NH shout out female also she won
• 1:01:55
  for the female. She did 8 hours and 10 minutes.
• 1:01:58
  So those are the top 2 in this race and only 5 finishers in
• 1:02:03
  this race. Michael de George Scott looks
• 1:02:06
  fast. Well OK so his ultra sign up is
• 1:02:09
  first place, first place, first place, first place, first place,
• 1:02:12
  2nd, 1st, 13th at AUS track and field. 24 hour guys fast.
• 1:02:16
  I don't know. He showed up, he wanted to sit
• 1:02:18
  in sidewalk and he rent it. Rent it speedy.
• 1:02:20
  What pace is that? I don't know.
• 1:02:23
  Frozen folly, 66.6 hour outdoors only.
• 1:02:27
  So this is like the double trouble.
• 1:02:29
  We started with the double trouble.
• 1:02:31
  Maybe we shouldn't have done that, but like I said, you guys
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  get it in the order that I speak it.
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  Frozen folly, 66 hours just one way.
• 1:02:38
  Oh, outdoors only. OK, so those are indoor
• 1:02:41
  category. Jonathan Inglestead, Broomfield
• 1:02:45
  So one of his goes. He did a hundred 191 miles in in
• 1:02:51
  less than three days. Second place.
• 1:02:54
  Keith Borraza, Keene, NH King guy.
• 1:02:59
  The winner for the females Carmen Abello, New York, NY New
• 1:03:05
  York female, 30. She goes 110 miles.
• 1:03:10
  So they they won the 66 hour. These are.
• 1:03:13
  Yeah. I mean, these are pretty, pretty
• 1:03:14
  stacked. Some people are really going for
• 1:03:16
  these efforts. And then the 66 hours, I guess
• 1:03:20
  this doesn't say outdoors only. So I'd assume.
• 1:03:23
  Oh, so the frozen folly 66 means you are frozen outside and then
• 1:03:28
  the the 66 hours indoor, you could do it on a treadmill.
• 1:03:31
  So these people are we're not going to calm.
• 1:03:33
  So I do more. I would rather do inside.
• 1:03:36
  We're not going to say that they were at 160 miles.
• 1:03:38
  This is that's blasphemy. I'm going out myself.
• 1:03:40
  That is horrible. I don't think I can cut that out
• 1:03:42
  because it's so small. These people are not soft.
• 1:03:46
  They they just want to stay warm.
• 1:03:49
  I agree with them. Anthony Viola Stanhope, New
• 1:03:53
  Jersey. He wins it 160 miles and then
• 1:03:57
  second place George Jacomi, again, he goes 153 miles.
• 1:04:02
  And then the female winner, Cindy Sullivan, she goes 111
• 1:04:07
  miles. So people are putting up there's
• 1:04:10
  there's 123456789 people who did over 100 miles on the treadmill
• 1:04:17
  in less than 3 days. That is disgusting.
• 1:04:20
  That is nasty. You just no, you folks are yeah
• 1:04:24
  crazy, crazy, awesome, crazy strong those how is the Satan
• 1:04:31
  sidewalk results? So I don't know that kind of
• 1:04:32
  that got a little bit out of hand here, but.
• 1:04:34
  Those are the results. Next up, we're going to Yeah.
• 1:04:38
  So those are the results. And now we're going to do some
• 1:04:41
  previews. So for March, the Burke's
• 1:04:43
  Ladybug 50K, this is a virtual 50 Ki think it's outside because
• 1:04:48
  ladybugs are coming out, bugs are coming out.
• 1:04:50
  I don't know, go outside, run a 50K for time, submit it
• 1:04:53
  virtually. And that's the Burke's race
• 1:04:56
  again. And then there are two races
• 1:04:59
  that are happening tomorrow. I don't think I will have.
• 1:05:01
  Yeah, they're long events, so I won't have this in the results
• 1:05:04
  this week, but next week I'll put the final results in.
• 1:05:08
  It's the Fit Rock Trail race, Cumberland, RI 50K, The rock
• 1:05:13
  trail race. Typically right now in Rhode
• 1:05:17
  Island, there'd be no snow. I don't know if there's snow
• 1:05:19
  down there. There might be snow because I
• 1:05:21
  think that the storm just kind of hit more southern or the
• 1:05:25
  storm this weekend is hitting more southern.
• 1:05:27
  I'm not sure. So who knows, but that could be
• 1:05:31
  a snow trail race for for one year edition, but that's coming
• 1:05:34
  up tomorrow. And then the true strength
• 1:05:37
  uphill will 24 hour scheme schemo race in Greenwood, ME.
• 1:05:43
  This is kind of like a last year standing vibes.
• 1:05:47
  It's not an hour on the hour. So I think it's a 24 hour event.
• 1:05:50
  Who can go up and down the most in 24 hours?
• 1:05:54
  So this is going to, this is not just who can outlast people.
• 1:05:57
  This is who's fitter and who can do it for 24 hours straight.
• 1:06:00
  So this is more true to like some sort of lapped ultra, like
• 1:06:04
  a timed lap ultra hamster wheel. What's the, what's the Yeah,
• 1:06:12
  something like a, a, a lap ultra that you just keep going for 24
• 1:06:15
  hours, see who goes farthest. So on skis, I don't know if any
• 1:06:19
  of the last gear stands or some of those big skiers are going to
• 1:06:21
  show up for this. I think like I think I saw
• 1:06:23
  Justin Lagasse on one of the on the results list from history.
• 1:06:28
  So I'm sure this is on the radar of some of the people that have
• 1:06:30
  won last year standing. But that'll be a race to look
• 1:06:33
  out for. If you're listening to this at
• 1:06:36
  6:00 AM on Sunday, shout out Clark Plummer.
• 1:06:38
  I think he's the one. He must be at least the one
• 1:06:40
  person that says I think he actually does listen, right?
• 1:06:43
  Usually, right. Sunday morning, maybe Vinny too.
• 1:06:45
  I don't know what time Vinny goes out, but if you're
• 1:06:48
  listening, they may be wrapping up right now.
• 1:06:50
  So check the results, live results.
• 1:06:53
  So those are the races this weekend.
• 1:06:55
  And then next weekend we're going to preview some races.
• 1:06:58
  The Enchanted Forest Ultra Run Six hours in Stratford, Vermont.
• 1:07:03
  So this is a forest runt like we're getting in the trail
• 1:07:05
  season here. The snow is melting, especially
• 1:07:08
  in these southern more southern states.
• 1:07:11
  I mean, I guess the forest can can stay put in the winter.
• 1:07:13
  Anyway. What is that?
• 1:07:15
  I love the the poem by Rob Frost.
• 1:07:19
  I remember Scotty was a was the first person to tell me about
• 1:07:25
  that store. Something about a horse, a guy
• 1:07:28
  in a horse in the middle of the woods in the middle of the night
• 1:07:30
  and he goes the woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I
• 1:07:35
  have promises to keep in in many miles until I sleep in many
• 1:07:40
  miles until I sleep. That's a Scotty Pat node.
• 1:07:43
  He put me out of that one, but that's a good.
• 1:07:45
  I don't know. That's a good that's just
• 1:07:46
  reminded me of it. I don't I don't know, six hours.
• 1:07:48
  I have six hours in the enchanted forest until I sleep.
• 1:07:50
  I have six hours in the enchanted Forest until I sleep.
• 1:07:53
  That's a Stratford, CT preview and then another Tark race.
• 1:07:58
  This is a very popular race, I know.
• 1:08:00
  I think it's sold out, like all the Tark races sold out.
• 1:08:02
  There's a wait list on this one. It's the Tark to Hail and back
• 1:08:06
  Six hour and 3.5 mile race, Westwood, Mass.
• 1:08:12
  These are hard to preview like I would.
• 1:08:14
  These are this is a bigger race, so I'd like to do a better
• 1:08:17
  preview, but there are no rankings and I'm not you know, I
• 1:08:21
  don't I try to look and see what the name like I know Patrick
• 1:08:23
  Karen's on a 3.5 mile. I can't just keep saying Patrick
• 1:08:26
  Karen for all of the Tark races like that preview is going to
• 1:08:30
  get old. But Patrick Karen's in 3.5 mile.
• 1:08:32
  And then the one person I did want to shout out in the tark
• 1:08:37
  the 6th hour. Is The Who the Oh my gosh, the.
• 1:08:42
  Houlihan hooligans. I'm scrolling down.
• 1:08:46
  I don't and I see the Houlihan Hooligans, Auggie Houlihan,
• 1:08:52
  Jenny Hooligan, Sophie Hooligan, Lucy Hooligan, all from
• 1:08:57
  Newburyport, MA, they all signed up and they are hooligans
• 1:09:01
  apparently. The four of them sounds like a
• 1:09:03
  family they're going out and going to crush together.
• 1:09:05
  That's who gets to spotlight on this preview.
• 1:09:08
  Shout out to the Houlihan hooligans.
• 1:09:12
  OK, so those are the race results and then we are going to
• 1:09:15
  end this off with a little bit of trail conditions talk.
• 1:09:20
  The trail conditions are horrible, horrible.
• 1:09:24
  I mean, obviously it warmed up so much this week.
• 1:09:28
  Everything is pulse. I mean, if you if you think
• 1:09:30
  about stepping off a trail right now, postal, everything sloppy.
• 1:09:34
  Everything down South has had so much snow sticking around.
• 1:09:38
  Usually we don't have snow right now.
• 1:09:40
  There's so much snow that all the trails are sloppy.
• 1:09:42
  There's post holes here. It's brutal out here.
• 1:09:45
  It is brutal. People are sticking a mountain
• 1:09:48
  auto roads. If you got a Mountain Auto Rd.
• 1:09:50
  close to you, go there. It's brutal right now, but
• 1:09:55
  hopefully I'm in. This weekend's going to be cold.
• 1:09:57
  It's just going to be very divvity, lots of post.
• 1:10:00
  So I think there's going to be a little bit of snow coming up.
• 1:10:03
  So I wouldn't say it's super. It's just going to be bumpy.
• 1:10:07
  There's going to be some some some some some little bombs
• 1:10:11
  planted out there. This is thing like and don't run
• 1:10:14
  fast right now for sure. Definitely don't don't do
• 1:10:17
  anything because he's when there's divots and post holes
• 1:10:20
  covered up by soft snow. That is not friendly.
• 1:10:24
  And then if your post hole when it's really warm out and you go
• 1:10:27
  on the whites and your post hole in a ton, it's like you're just
• 1:10:30
  putting your foot down into whatever rock hoping that it's
• 1:10:34
  not a rock or a jagged thing or whatever.
• 1:10:37
  It's trying to kind of just craziness out there.
• 1:10:39
  This is the time of year where I start to transition while I'll
• 1:10:42
  pick the good days when the trails get packed down and it
• 1:10:44
  froze, froze in the morning, you go out.
• 1:10:46
  But other than that, you got to stay more South.
• 1:10:49
  This is you can even start headed South of the city.
• 1:10:52
  So this is like, you know, the middle of the the fells is a
• 1:10:55
  really good spot to go right now.
• 1:10:58
  Hopefully around us is going to get melted completely out soon.
• 1:11:01
  And then here's going to be a good spot and then the bell naps
• 1:11:04
  and the Ossipees in the next month or two, we're going to get
• 1:11:08
  really good too. So this is kind of like a mud
• 1:11:11
  season, warm up season. But the good news is it's almost
• 1:11:14
  trail season, so very exciting. The warm weather feels amazing.
• 1:11:19
  So with with. Bad conditions come, great
• 1:11:23
  promise. And I will leave you with that.
• 1:11:26
  We'll see you next week. Peace.