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Ultimate. fucking casuals what is wrong with
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me is another podcast by the lbx media thank
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you yes yes uh boxing b -sides we're back up
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in your fucking ears um this is not the ultimate
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effing casuals which you should listen to also
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but not right now because you're listening to
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this joined once again by shanada you're back
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i'm back back up on special guest appearance
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And the one and only. We're here, Alex. All right.
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Oh. I think you can do a longer intro for Shanada.
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I don't know if they're Canadian or not. I always
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get confused with music. Is Alexis on Fire a
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band that other people know? I know them. Oh,
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yeah. Yeah, okay, okay. Canada has the... I think
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it's... 40 % of our music has to be Canadian
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somehow. On the radio? Yeah. So there's a lot
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of bands that I think are very popular because
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I hear them all the time and no one's ever heard
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of them. Actually, Alexis on Fire is... Maybe
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you can disagree with me, but the Hispanic community,
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they're kind of big. Thanks. I just found out
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that Marianna's Trench is not very famous. That's
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actually... I like Marianas Trench. Or I used
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to. They're a little too... Oh, they're pop.
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Okay, yeah, I don't know who they are. Never
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mind. They're not really... They're pop, but,
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like, their big hit song was Slap You Like a
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Bitch and You Take It Like a Whore. So they're
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not, like, happy pop. They're kind of angry pop.
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Like, I don't get any pop. Yeah. Alexis on fire.
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Post -hardcore. It's... Yeah. i'm familiar with
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them i always thought it was because it's all
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one word i always thought it was alex is on fire
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well that's the debate right is it they did that
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on purpose yeah so nobody knows if their name
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is alex and they're on fire or if alexis is on
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fire yeah i hope i'm not on fire yeah well Boxing
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B -sides. Let's extend the olive branch since
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I mentioned the ultimate F in casuals. UFC 314
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is coming up. One fight actually at the top of
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the bill got taken off, but I'll just skip over
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it. Alexander Volkanovsky, the living legend
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versus Diego Lopez, the fucking uprising. I'm
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not going to say superstar or anything yet, but
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he's making his waves. That's for the featherweight
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title. Michael Chandler is fighting Patty Pimblitt.
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It's just the stupidest name I've ever heard.
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Patty Pimblitt. Johnny Pichik. I love Patty.
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Patty the Batty Pimblitt. His stupid fucking
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bowl haircut. Yep. It's the only reason I know
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him. That and the viral video where his dog had
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diarrhea on some lady's lawn. Uh -huh. You haven't
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seen that? I have not. Oh, how do you guys not
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know this? I'll have to go find it. He was walking
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his dog, and some lady's ring camera caught it.
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And he's walking his dog, and he goes and, like,
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rings her doorbell. And she's like, is that fucking
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Patty the Batty? And he's like, my dog just took
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a real sloppy shit on your lawn, and I tried
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to pick it up, but I can't. Like, do you have
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some water or something I could pour on it? He's
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like, I tried. And the lady's like, what the
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fuck is happening? Is that Patty the Batty? Yeah,
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my dog just took a real sloppy shit on your vlog.
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He actually said that word for word, bar for
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bar? Pretty close. Yeah. In their stupid accents
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because they live wherever they live. It's a
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hilarious video. You guys need to find it. Try
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to do the accent, Shanada. No. No. I'm not going
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to do that. That's a hate crime. That was funny.
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Another interesting character, Bryce Mitchell
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versus John Silva. John Silva is actually really
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entertaining to watch. He avoids grappling as
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much as he can. And so does Bryce Mitchell. So
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this should be moderately entertaining. And Yair
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Rodriguez versus Patricio Pitbull. Pitbull is
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making his... debut he's coming off of a just
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recently released by pfl slash bellator so here
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he is and uh that's it let's let's get into some
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fucking boxing here you know there's there's
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another pitbull in boxing oh yeah mma pants out
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there yeah they should check out isaac is he
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isaac or isaac he must be isaac isaac Probably.
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You suck. Here's just one to mention really quickly.
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Pat Brown, an Olympian from the UK, makes his
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debut at Cruiserweight, gets a stoppage in four
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over Federico Grandone from Argentina. He's a
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late replacement as well, like a week maybe.
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Take notes, George Cambosos, because this is
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how you're supposed to do it. We're just going
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to shit on Cambo for the rest of his life. Forever.
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Anytime. Until anytime there's a late replacement
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of like a week or less and they get stopped in
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like the first third of the fight, it'll be a
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Cambosos moment. Last one on this card I wanted
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to mention was Cameron Vuong. He stops Jordan
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Flynn in seven. I've been mentioning Cameron
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Vuong for I don't know how long now, but I'm
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going to keep doing it. I like Cameron Vuong.
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He's fun. Moving to the 29th. Top rank in Las
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Vegas at the Fontainebleau. I'm going to go from
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the bottom up. There's a whole bunch of other
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shit that happened on this card that I don't
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really care about. So from the bottom up, Emiliano
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Vargas, TKO2 over Giovanni Gonzalez. Party. Bruce,
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go ahead. I want to also say, as I said last
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week, I also think Emiliano is going to go very
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far in his career. And I'm calling it right now.
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I think he's going to be... A future title holder
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in the division. Wow. At 140? That's a bold statement.
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That is. I rank him very highly. I think he has
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the potential to become a potential great, potentially
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elite, in fact, in the coming division in the
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future. Well, you heard it here first. Yeah,
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you did. He shows a lot of promise. He shows
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a lot of promise. Of all his brothers, he does
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show the most. For sure. And he's the youngest.
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He's, I think, 20, right? Yeah, he's 20. Yeah,
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he's 20. He's going to do well. As long as Top
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Ring builds him up properly, he's going to do
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well. Seem to be doing a good job so far. Bruce
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Carrington, TKO3 over Enrique Vivas. Shit wasn't
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even close. Yeah, I mean, Shushu looked good
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this time. Yeah, he did. I don't really like
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him, but he did look good. Got it done quick,
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the way he's supposed to. He talked a whole lot
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of shit in the post -fight interview. Oh, that's
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right. He called out fucking everybody. Man.
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Well, seems like he can back it up so far. So
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far. So far. Yeah, I don't know if that's going
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to hold forever. Yeah. One of the things that
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always goes down is as you go up, the chin resistance
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goes up, defenses get better. You're not going
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to have fucking Vivas in front of you every time.
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Exactly. Hopefully Shushu doesn't get turned
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into Shushi. Excellent. Nice. You know what else
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was nice? Brian Norman Jr. TKO3 over Derek Cuevas.
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Brian Norman better than we expected? Should
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we not make too much out of this considering
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it was just a WBO mandatory? I didn't expect
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him to finish it that fast. Yeah. At all. He
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looked pretty good. He looked exceptionally good.
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He looked a lot better than... My previous estimations
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of him. I think that the conversation is turning
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from Boots is going to destroy him to can Boots
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knock him out? Which is, you know, it's kind
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of a step up, you know, from people saying, oh,
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he sucks too. Oh, well, you might be a formidable
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opponent. True. Which I believe I think on my
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first instance on this podcast, I did kind of,
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I did say that, huh? I did say that right, Leo,
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remember? What, about Norman? Yeah, about Norman.
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Yes. Yeah. I'm not high on Norman. I'm not too,
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too high, but I still think he's a dangerous
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fighter. You know? He's super fast. We'll see.
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He's got really fast hands. Yeah. I was impressed
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with him this fight. Yeah. Like, I don't know
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if this means he's going to be a world beater
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or anything, but he impressed me. How does he
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do against Barrios? Eat him. You think so? Yeah,
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Barrios is not that... I don't think Barrios
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is that good of a fighter. I don't think he's
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that good either. I think... I like Barrios.
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The guy that beat him last time was Ramos. Not
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Jesus Ramos, but it was... Abel Ramos. He was
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a pretty big underdog coming into the fight.
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I mean, what was the equalizer was the power.
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You know, his skill wasn't really there that
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much, but the power, that almost took out Barrios.
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Yeah. I'll tell you, Brian Norman Jr. has good
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power. So if he can fight Barrios like how he
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fought Quivas this fight, I think Barrios is
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going to be in some trouble. I'll tell you that
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for sure. Yeah, you guys can probably convince
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me. Like I said, he did better than I thought
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he would this fight. I wasn't expecting that
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sort of win. It took him, from my estimation
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of the welterweight champions, like Boots, then
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Stanionis, then Barrios, then Norman. That's
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where I had it. But now, Norman, after this,
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maybe swap Norman and Barrios a little bit. They
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should fight. They should. That's not going to
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happen, though. They won't fight. I'll guarantee
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you. PBC in the top rank? Definitely not. But
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they should. They should, yes, of course. Those
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two never really see eye to eye properly. I fucking
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hate the politics of boxing. It ruins everything.
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That could be a whole podcast in and of itself,
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just talking shit about the podcast of each promotional
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company. Yeah. And then how much we love Turkey
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so we could get that Saudi bonus, huh? Yeah.
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Not worth it. No, it's not worth it. I don't
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want to sell my soul to this motherfucker. Yeah,
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but I'm going to sell my soul. It's not going
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to be to the fucking Saudis. Yeah, I suppose
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that's a little more personal for you than us,
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probably. Yeah, you actually have a vendetta,
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huh? Well, it's a topic for another time. That's
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a different podcast right there. Yeah, that one
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is too. Mikayla Mayer and Sandy Bryan. Do it
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again. Michaela Mayer gets it done clean this
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time. I thought Sandy Ryan won the first time,
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but Sandy Ryan, let's say that the cards did
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go her way. Sandy Ryan's win would not have been
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as good as this one that Michaela Mayer has over
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Sandy Ryan. They were talking about doing it
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a third time? Like, what? Fucking what for? Who
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else are they going to fight, though? There's
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not that many good women in this weight class.
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Natasha Jonas is a good one. Michaela Mayer and
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Natasha Jonas already fought, but that was a
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questionable decision. That's putting it pretty
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nicely. Who's the one chick? She just came into
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the scene. Lauren Price just beat Natasha Jonas.
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I don't think I know who Lauren Price is. She's
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really fresh onto the scene. She's being built
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up right now. Beat Jessica McCaskill. She might
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be a future title holder. She's already got two.
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Yeah, I was going to say I think she already
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is. I thought they were interim titles. No. Really?
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She's got three. Three of the four, I believe.
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Oh, interim. No, she has IBF, WBC, and I think
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WBA. I'm going to check. IBO. What the hell?
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Oh, shoot. That's my bad, guys. If somebody has
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the IBO, especially on the women's side, chances
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are they have everything else, too. Yeah, Lauren
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Price is the WBA champion. So let me ask you
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guys this, okay? Do you guys often tune into
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female boxing? um if it's that's also a different
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weight class lauren price is one weight class
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low oh no she's not no they're both welchers
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sorry sorry um i watched them on the cards but
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i don't really look for it yeah it's definitely
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getting better but until pretty recently women's
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boxing was not as good it's pretty there's so
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many mishmet So many mismatches. Like, I'll never
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forget that poor Canadian barista that they put
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in with a world title holder. And she just got
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fucking demolished in like 12 seconds. That wasn't
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that long ago. That was like 2020. Someone that
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took a few boxer -sized classes. I would have
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done better. And I am not a boxer, but I would
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have done better than that. Like, the first punch
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might have missed if it was me because I'd be
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too far away for her to hit me. mayor definitely
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won this one yeah pretty clearly yeah very clearly
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i don't know if i need to see another one i think
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i'm with you leo but i just i also don't really
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know who else they fight that lauren price is
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a good one just lauren price uh yeah natasha
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jonas if you want to get revenge uh michaela
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if michaela mayor wants revenge for the crappy
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decision I guess. I don't know if I particularly
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want to see that either. Right. I don't really
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think I do either. It's just Lauren Price. Just
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start racking up those belts and start racking
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up those defenses. Mayer is more skilled than
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a lot of the women, I think. Like, her fundamentals
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are better. I think she maybe had better coaching.
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Yes. Really don't like how they make that whole
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fucking storyline of the fight. They make it
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all about that one coach that used to work with
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Michaela Mayer, then switched to working with
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Sandy Ryan. Yeah. I don't remember what it's
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called, but it's something about literature or
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just any sort of written art that if there's
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two women having... Do they have dialogue? And
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is it not about a man? The something test. Yeah.
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Berkmeyer test. Is that it? Starts with a B.
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I remember that much, but. I'm surprised they
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didn't mention it. Bechdel test. Yeah. I'm surprised
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they didn't mention the paint in any of the posts.
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They did. They did. Fucking everywhere. Mayer
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had that red handprint on her ass. I'm sure that
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was a nod to the paint thing. Absolutely. No,
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I was joking. Yeah, they plastered that shit
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everywhere. Yeah. I missed the sarcasm. Sorry.
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But this fight did not pass the Bechdel test.
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No. Do better, top rank. Although, I guess it
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is kind of a thing. Trainer switches? Yeah. I
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guess. It's like when they make a big deal about
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guys being sparring partners five years ago,
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and you're like, eh. You're like Rody and Ryan?
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Yeah. Or, like, they've really been trying to
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push the Joe Joyce and Herkovich amateur fight
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being important. That was fucking a million years
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ago, guys. No one cares. Well, you know, with
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Tank and Roach, Tank wanted the amateurs, but
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Roach really wanted the pro. That one I actually
19:05
do think... I can get down with that one. Yeah,
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that one, Roach was not scared of the power.
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There's another... little one that doesn't get
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brought up a lot that's nico ali walsh is actually
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muhammad ali's grandson i don't know if you guys
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knew that but i tried try not to put it out there
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because it seems like top rank doesn't want to
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it's a bit of a secret it's a bit i've never
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heard of that it's boxing insider stuff i might
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be i don't know i wasn't there when uh when it
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T -T -A -C -K dot L -V -X dot B -E. What wasn't
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casual bullshit? William Cepeda and Tevin Farmer.
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What a fight. Just some quick ones on the way
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up. Yocasta Valle, the jungle warrior goddess.
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split decision over Marlon Esparza. It was competitive,
22:12
though, so my estimation when we talked about
22:16
it on Boxing Before Dark, I was thinking that
22:19
Marlon Esparza was washed, spent, fucking in
22:24
the hamper, getting ready to throw in the wash,
22:27
but definitely not the case here. I thought she
22:31
would pull it out. I really did, but she's not
22:35
done. Maybe not as good as she was, but she's
22:38
still tough as nails and has a decent gas tank.
22:41
She came in overweight. This isn't the first
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time. No, but she was going down a weight class
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as well. That's true. She made her usual weight
22:53
class. She made her usual weight, but didn't
22:55
make the 112. So, Yocasta, she's fighting someone
23:00
15, 20 pounds heavier. 15, probably. Yeah, but
23:06
that's kind of why I thought Esparza might win.
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I knew she'd be bigger. It was an entertaining
23:12
fight. Probably another one where you could argue
23:15
that the two -minute rounds isn't great. No.
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I don't care for the two -minute rounds. Actually,
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that was worth bringing up with Michaela Mayer
23:25
and Sandy Ryan. Mayer might have got the knockout
23:28
if they were three -minute rounds. Yeah, because
23:30
as soon as the action started heating up, The
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fucking round ends. It was ridiculous. I'm with
23:36
the guys in the Discord, or not just Discord,
23:40
but I'm on the side of you can't change it in
23:43
the pros. Just all at once. You gotta start at
23:47
the bottom. Grow it from the bottom. Yeah. You
23:51
can't expect people that have been fighting two
23:53
-minute rounds for 15 years to suddenly just
23:55
do three -minute rounds for 10 rounds. That's
23:59
true. They've been doing it for so long. I would,
24:02
at the very least, then, would like to make the
24:04
round counts the same. Like, title fights are
24:07
12, even if they're still two minutes. I could
24:11
get behind adding rounds. And I do think they
24:14
should go to three -minute rounds. But I think
24:17
you kind of got to do it in the amateurs. From
24:19
the beginning of their journeys. Yeah. But I
24:25
don't know how that really looks either. It's
24:29
hard to make a big change like that in a sport,
24:31
I think. No matter how you do it, people are
24:34
going to complain. I haven't really done anything
24:36
like that, really ever, change the round times.
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No, like, I don't know. I'm picturing it kind
24:44
of being like helmets in hockey, where it becomes,
24:49
I guess in boxing, it would be one more thing
24:52
that you negotiate. Could be. You negotiate the
24:56
size of the ring, you negotiate the number of
24:59
rounds for fights. Women for maybe five years
25:05
while people are coming up from the amateurs
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negotiate the time length. That could have some
25:10
repercussions that are unexpected though. Yeah,
25:14
but I mean like so many things are negotiated
25:17
fight to fight in boxing. I don't think negotiating
25:20
the length of the rounds would be... that much
25:24
different. I guess you're right. They just gotta
25:27
get the sanctioning bodies on board. Because
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that's what's holding it up at this point, I
25:31
think. Some of these women want three. Yeah.
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And the fucking argument that women can't fight
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three minute rounds is stupid. I guess they could.
25:43
UFC or MMA in general, they fight five minutes.
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Same as the men do. They have some bullshit argument
25:51
about injuries and stuff. It's stupid. No, yeah.
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Yocasta Valle, split decision over Marlon Esparza.
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If you're listening, Joey, our girl, she didn't
26:04
make it. It's alright, though. Yocasta Valle,
26:07
always fantastic. Always fun to watch. She beats
26:11
Anissa Estrada, and I'll die on that hill. I
26:16
like Valle. I do. I just thought that Esparza
26:19
was going to be too big for her. Yeah, it was
26:22
a problem for sure. It did prove to be a problem
26:25
still. Oscar Collazo. KO5 over Edwin Cano. WBA,
26:35
WBO, minimum weight titles on the line. Good
26:39
stuff. I have very little notes. He looked great.
26:44
He's... Bring in excitement to a weight division
26:47
that, what did we call them? Or what did you
26:50
call them? What did I call them? Victim weights?
26:53
Victim weights. I know the guys in the chat were
26:57
kind of saying that Koyazo was not, you know,
27:00
good for beating all these cans. But, I mean,
27:02
his skill, he has skill. He's got a lot of skill.
27:04
He is not beating cans. Koyazo's good. And he's
27:10
only had 11 fights. I hate. When people do this
27:14
with the minimum weights, it's like, oh, he's
27:16
just been knocking over Thai cans for however
27:19
long. And it's like, no. He won a belt in ten
27:26
fights. Maybe less than ten fights. Less than
27:30
ten. Yeah, he won a belt in nine fights. Became
27:35
a unified champion in ten. Yeah, I don't... I
27:41
don't understand why people are saying he's knocking
27:44
over cans. They're not cans. They're fucking
27:46
title holders. Who else do you want them to fight?
27:50
They're pretty good people, you know? Not bad.
27:53
Yeah, they're fine. Collazo's good, though. Collazo's
27:56
good. He's gonna be a problem. His biggest problem
28:00
is gonna be that he's tiny. Like, even at that
28:03
weight class, he's not very big. He's 5 '2".
28:06
Like, CP Freshmart is... was... Is 5 '0". I think
28:13
Melvin Jerusalem is also 5 '0"? Yeah, and so
28:20
are the brothers. The Shigeoka brothers? Yeah.
28:24
I think they're both 5 '0". Melvin is 5 '2".
28:30
Everybody in there is about 4 '10"-5 '2". There's
28:37
not much height range. There's this one, this
28:40
other Filipino guy, Pedro Taduran. He's 5 '4".
28:46
So that's actually pretty tall for 105. He's
28:50
tall for 105. Not Katani, 105. But no, I don't
28:57
think anybody beats Collazo in that weight class.
29:00
I think he could also move up at least one. Maybe
29:05
to the strawweight, right? This is Strawweight.
29:10
Minimum and Straw are the same names. What's
29:15
the weight class above? Lightflyweight. Who's
29:20
in Lightfly? It's actually really competitive
29:22
right now, Lightfly, isn't it? I don't recognize
29:25
anybody in here. Oh. But there are some decent
29:30
records. Filipinos, Mexicans. Japanese, Thai,
29:37
as expected. Not really any American stuff, huh?
29:44
No. No, this is flyweight. I'm thinking flyweight.
29:49
Flyweight is very competitive right now. And
29:51
if people want to hear about flyweight, they
29:54
need to come to Boxing Before Dark because there
29:57
was a Japanese doubleheader weekend this same
30:00
weekend that me and Leo are going to talk about.
30:04
Yes. And I'm going to watch it and be well -studied
30:08
and well -prepared. It was great. Man. You know
30:14
what else was good? William Zepeda versus Tevin
30:17
Farmer rematch. It was... It was... I thought
30:23
it... I'm not sure what to really say. It was...
30:27
It was great. Zepeda was putting on the pressure,
30:31
throwing a lot of punches. Tevin Farmer... Showed
30:33
that he's still very crafty. Was landing good
30:37
counters. He was landing some solid shots. Like,
30:41
he was landing the cleaner punches, but much
30:44
fewer. So it's one of those, like, which do you
30:48
prefer? I don't know. I'm kind of feeling like
30:51
Tevin Farmer might have taken this one as well.
30:54
It's like I felt like he took the first. I disagree.
30:59
But the thing is, I think he could have won.
31:02
It seemed like he was injured, correct? Yes.
31:05
Yeah, he fucked up a hand and the other elbow.
31:10
The thing is that with the first fight, I think
31:13
he won personally. This fight, I think he lost,
31:16
but I think he really would have won if he had
31:19
everything. If he was naturally healthy, you
31:21
know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Healthy farmer
31:23
wins this one. I agree. I honestly believe if
31:27
this went one more round, I think he would have
31:30
knocked out Zepeda. If you saw how he was beating
31:33
up Cepeda in that last round, dude, Cepeda was
31:36
stunned. He was stunned. He had him hurt. He
31:38
was kind of bad. Yeah. If he had taken the initiative,
31:43
I think he would have knocked him down. Well,
31:45
I think Farmer was trying to save his hand for
31:47
that last round. His power hand is the one he
31:49
hurt early. And I think he wasn't throwing full
31:54
power for most of the fight and really going
31:57
for that knockout in the 12th round. But I did
32:01
think he was behind on the cards. Yeah. He definitely
32:06
won that first fight, though. I don't care what
32:07
anyone says. They fucked him. He won the first
32:10
fight. I felt really bad for Farmer, too, because
32:14
they told him to do the interview, and he was
32:18
like, no, I don't want to. And then he was angry.
32:23
He said some things he probably shouldn't have
32:25
said. Nothing terrible, but just like, I'm so
32:27
fucking sick of this. I always lose the close
32:29
fights. Yeah, how many more times do I have to
32:32
do this before one of them goes my way? And he
32:38
was still respectful to Zepeda, though. Like,
32:40
Farmer's a respectful guy. I like Kevin Farmer,
32:44
but yeah, he always gets fucked on close fights.
32:47
This one, I don't think he particularly should
32:50
have won, but... I honestly don't really think
32:53
that it was really in his... I'll explain. It
32:56
just wasn't possible for him to win this one
32:58
if he was injured like that. You know what I
33:00
mean? I guess someone like Zepeda. You need to
33:03
throw... You need to give it all out to Zepeda.
33:06
But... That was something that Tevin Farmer did
33:08
say. Yeah. And the thing is with Tevin Farmer,
33:13
I mean, he didn't crash out as bad as someone
33:14
like Anthony Joshua and Usyk. You know what I
33:17
mean? No, no, it wasn't like a terrible crash
33:20
out, but it was, I am emotional and I don't want
33:23
to talk to you. And then they made him talk.
33:26
Yeah. I don't think they should do that to boxers.
33:30
Boxers should have the right to like refuse those
33:32
after immediate after interviews. Well, I'm going
33:37
to get out of the ring. Yeah. Usually when they
33:38
do, when they leave the ring, that's how they
33:40
avoid it. They stopped them from leaving the
33:44
ring. Oh, lame. Like he was on his way out and
33:49
they stopped him and told him he had to do the
33:51
interview. Lame. Pretty lame. I did notice that
33:54
Claudia was not translating it in real time.
33:59
Oh, the farmer. Yeah. Yeah. She didn't translate
34:04
it to the Mexican crowd. Yep. Yeah. I like Claudia.
34:10
I think she's good at her job. Probably the right
34:12
call not to translate that. Because he was already
34:18
getting booed hard, and they booed the fuck out
34:21
of the American anthem, and I loved it. Oh, yeah,
34:25
that's right. You're Canadian. Yeah, I am. William
34:30
Zepeda, what is next? Because if he's thinking
34:34
that he's really going to fight Shakur Stevenson,
34:36
think again, Playboy. That's not the best move
34:40
for you. I personally think that Zepeda, I think
34:44
he's going to become another Giovanni Cabrera.
34:46
Or like a Thomas Delorme, where they pulled up
34:49
younger fighters. Who were we saying that about
34:51
last time? I think last time we said that about,
34:54
I believe, dude. I don't remember. Was it Kambucha?
34:58
Oh, Kambosas. Kambosas. Yeah. Yeah, I think William
35:03
Cepeda is going to be like that for once he loses.
35:06
For Mexico? Yeah, for Mexico, once he loses.
35:10
Because, I don't know, I mean, he has a lot of,
35:13
he has pretty good output. But his skill, man,
35:16
I think he just kind of lacks in, you know? Yeah.
35:20
Zepeda's whole thing is output. You're right.
35:22
Like, if people can handle the pressure, he's
35:26
got nothing. And, dude, that ring was small.
35:29
Like, it was really, really small. And the fact
35:32
that he couldn't really cut off the ring properly
35:35
in a small ring like that, that just screams
35:39
to me that he's just a tiny skill. Well, and
35:42
Farber was making him miss. The whole night.
35:45
Farmer was making a mess. That too. I mean, I
35:48
personally think Roach beats him. Zepeda. Well,
35:50
not kills, but you beat him in split to two.
35:53
Shakur, I think also could even knock him out.
35:57
Shakur does not knock out Zepeda. I would say
36:00
Roach knocks out Zepeda before Shakur does. I
36:03
know that sounds silly. I know that sounds silly.
36:06
But Zepeda, to get knocked down by Farmer. Farmer
36:11
has more power than he gets credit for. You guys
36:13
are just wrong about Farmer. I'm agreeing with
36:17
you here. Not you, Leo. I just mean the shit
36:20
talkers. Farmer has power. Not good power, though.
36:26
A fuck of a lot more than Shakur. I was going
36:29
to say, Shakur does. Well, the thing is, I don't
36:32
know. I just feel like Farmer... I don't know.
36:35
It's hard to explain. I think the reason why
36:37
he has good power is because he has really well
36:40
-placed shots. Like, really, really well -placed
36:43
shots. And the way he uses his punches. Half
36:45
of how you get power. That's why Inoue knocks
36:49
people out. Well, Shakur, the way he boxed that
36:52
135 from what I've seen, he doesn't really...
36:54
His jab is not so much a power jab as much as
36:58
it's kind of closer to a flicker jab. Does that
36:59
make sense? Or do you guys disagree with me on
37:01
that? I just think Shakur is shit and I don't
37:04
watch him enough to have an opinion on any specifics.
37:07
You don't like Shakur? I fucking hate Shakur.
37:10
I hate him so much. Why is that? Why? He's boring
37:16
as fuck. oh yeah I hate him because of that too
37:19
but like he talks so he has no self -awareness
37:23
I went on this rant on the other podcast but
37:26
he talks about knocking people out and all this
37:30
stuff and he's never gonna do it like know who
37:33
you are be Reagan now like I'm gonna make you
37:37
look stupid I'm gonna give you a boxing lesson
37:39
you're never gonna touch me these are all facts
37:41
Shakira can say but I'm gonna go in there and
37:44
put him in the hospital no fucking way No fucking
37:48
way. I just think that Zepeda just doesn't have
37:51
enough skill to, you know. I think Zepeda could
37:55
stand there and let Shakur punch him in the face
37:58
for five minutes and Shakur still doesn't knock
38:00
him out. Really? Zepeda has a chin. Well, the
38:04
thing is, I think Zepeda's chin is kind of overrated.
38:08
You know what I mean? I think he's been with
38:10
enough camps to where people think that he does
38:12
have a good chin. Maybe, but Shakur has negative
38:16
power. Yeah, maybe that was a little ballsy.
38:19
I'm going to stop defending that. I'm thinking
38:22
about it now. Maybe that was a little too controversial,
38:24
even for myself. I'm not saying that Zepeda beats
38:29
him, but Shakur does not knock Zepeda out. Shakur
38:32
doesn't knock anybody out. I think he knocks
38:34
them down at least, though. He gets a knockdown.
38:37
Let me tell you, Shakur's really good. You can't
38:40
deny Shakur's really, really good. He's very
38:41
skilled. Yeah. Yeah. I still think Keyshawn beats
38:45
Kushker. He's a better BOMAC fighter, but, you
38:49
know. Yeah, he does not knock Zepeda out. Does
38:52
Keyshawn knock Zepeda out? Uh, yeah. I lean towards
38:57
no. I don't think Zepeda's chin is as bad as
39:00
you think it is. I don't think it's as good as
39:03
you think it is. Hence the disagreement. Yeah.
39:09
We'll see in the future. I guess. The thing is,
39:14
for Mexicans, I'm not trying to be biased, but
39:17
in the Mexican community, we like to favor the
39:21
Isak Cruises. Yeah, I love Mexican -style fighters.
39:26
The thing is, they're fun to watch, but it's
39:28
just, I don't... I like the B -Bowls. I do like
39:33
the B -Bowls. I just think that watching skill
39:37
and watching a chess match is kind of fun. To
39:39
me, at least. It can be fun as long as they actually
39:43
throw punches and hit people. Yeah, I agree.
39:48
Shakira's too far the other way. It's not watching
39:51
a chess match. It's watching fucking paint dry.
39:55
He's like Ali if Ali never threw a punch. He's
39:59
like Rigendale. Rigendale was... Rigendale could
40:04
if he just chose not to knock people out. Shakira
40:07
can't even choose to knock people out. I won
40:09
35 at least. Fucking anything. Healing punches.
40:14
Him and Devin Haney. That one is a barn burner
40:20
for sure, huh? Devin Haney versus Shakur? I remember
40:25
when Shakur walked into the ring with Devin Haney
40:28
after he beat Lomachenko. I was like, I almost
40:31
cried. Nobody would watch that. No, fuck no.
40:37
Now, with Tank and Shakur, I'd watch. It'd be
40:40
fun. Probably. Maybe. I never get excited about
40:46
Shakur fights. They're not exciting. He is very
40:50
skilled, but he is boring as fuck. And his lack
40:53
of reality in his shit -talking just annoys the
40:57
hell out of me. I guarantee you that they'll
41:00
probably put Shakur versus the Peta on the Canelo
41:04
Crawford undercard. You think so? I think so
41:08
because, I mean... Well, I don't know if it's
41:11
appropriate to say on the air, but it seems like
41:14
they're kind of instigating a certain rivalry.
41:20
Yeah, I can see that. Oh, I know what you mean.
41:24
Yeah, to try to sell tickets. It's not a lie
41:28
that it does sell, that type of rivalry does
41:30
sell, but to try to instigate it like that is
41:33
kind of crummy. Floyd Mayweather made a career
41:37
off of it. In the latter half. He's a real candle.
41:43
They do make those country versus country cards
41:48
every once in a while. Japan does it. They'll
41:50
bring in a whole bunch of Mexicans and it'll
41:53
be like Japan versus Mexico or Japan versus the
41:56
Philippines. Not the big televised ones, but
42:00
like Koraku and Paul has Japan versus the Philippines
42:03
fucking twice a year, I think. I know They have
42:08
Mexico versus Puerto Rico. Yeah, they do those
42:12
cards a lot. Yeah, which I think I'm getting
42:15
sick of as well. Well, the rivalry isn't that...
42:19
Well, and it's not that good right now. There's
42:22
not that many good Puerto Ricans right now. Oscar
42:25
Collazo, baby. Yeah, but I mean, you can't make...
42:31
There's Mexican minimum weights that he could
42:33
fight. That's worth... You know, the rivalry
42:38
title, you know what I mean? But you can't make
42:40
a whole card out of it. Like, there's not three
42:43
good Puerto Rico versus Mexico fights. Berlanga,
42:47
Zayas, and Colazo. There you go. Boom. I guess.
42:53
We should be promoters. We should be promoters,
42:57
huh? We would be good promoters, but we would
43:01
end up being crummy in the end. Anything more?
43:05
No, I don't think so. For this one? No. All right.
43:09
Zepeda was underwhelming, and Farmer wins if
43:12
his hand isn't busted. Yes. All right. Last thing
43:18
is, just really quickly, Konstantin Ursu. It's
43:23
another monster, but this one's from Moldova.
43:27
The Moldovan monster. He slaps Ethan James in
43:31
seven. He should be the bear. Yeah. His last
43:36
name means bear. Why is he not the bear? I don't
43:39
know. Because he's the Moldovan monster. I'm
43:44
so fucking sick of monsters. There's one monster,
43:46
bitches. Well, maybe for you. Be real. There's
43:54
one monster. I got the Mexican monster. I got
43:58
the Mexican monster. You got the Japanese monster.
44:00
If you're the Mexican anything, you're not the
44:02
thing. If you're the someplace thing, you're
44:08
not the thing. You're the knockoff. Of that place
44:11
only. Yeah. You're going to piss off the Mexican
44:15
audience with that one. Good. They need to face
44:19
reality. They can call in. The Mexican audience
44:22
can call in at our number. 833 -589 -7637. There
44:28
you go. I had a beta. I had a beta. Leo, did
44:32
it say that way? Yeah. But, well, his nickname
44:36
before was cooler anyways because he was the
44:38
red flag, right? Yeah. That's a way cooler nickname.
44:42
That was a cool name. The Mexican monster. Oh,
44:46
I'm the dollar store version from a different
44:48
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44:57
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There's that. and moving into previews there's
48:04
not a lot of them uh i have the tiger on the
48:09
10th um it's a bunch of on here there's a lot
48:15
of french canadians so if you like french canadians
48:18
then there you go it's boxing nobody likes french
48:21
canadians not even the french canadians wait
48:25
you guys like french canadians up there nobody
48:27
likes the french canadians from anywhere Dr.
48:33
Blue, where is me mama? What? That was the surprise
48:38
reference, I'm sorry. Oh, I never watched that
48:41
one. Dr. Blue. Oh, Dr. Blue, where is me mama?
48:47
No, you need to... You guys should look up Quebec
48:51
accents. They're fucking awful. I've heard nothing
48:54
good about them. Fucking awful. The stereotypical
49:04
sort of caricature -ish. Yeah, except like through
49:11
the nose and more French -Canadian swearing.
49:17
That's going to be our downfall is the French
49:19
-Canadians in this podcast. They're going to
49:24
protest this podcast. The French are good at
49:28
protesting. They can come for me. They can come
49:32
for me. I'm from Western Canada. The French can
49:35
go fuck themselves. With the beavers. Right.
49:43
After we're done fucking the French here. Marv
49:47
Nation. This is in Albuquerque at The Pit. I
49:52
wasn't going to even check this one out until
49:55
I saw the name of the venue. And then I decided,
50:00
you know what? That's a pretty cool place. What's
50:03
going on here? And we got a bit of a MMA guys
50:08
doing boxing plus some actual boxers. Fucking
50:12
Rampage Jackson. What? Even I know that name.
50:17
Yeah. Versus Rashad Evans. Six rounds at heavyweight.
50:22
That's one of the MMA guys or MMA people fighting
50:26
MMA people boxing. I should say. And then the
50:30
other one, John McDessie versus Diego Sanchez.
50:34
It's one of the first winners of the Ultimate
50:38
Fighter TV show. Nice. On the undercard of this,
50:44
we have Fernando Vargas. This is the eldest,
50:48
I believe, of the Vargas brothers versus Gonzalo
50:52
Correa. 10 rounds at 154. Fucking Shane Mosley
50:58
Jr. versus DeAndre Pettis. 10 rounds at middleweight.
51:03
And Brian Mendoza. Wondered what he was doing
51:07
last week after the Fandoro talk. No, he's fighting
51:15
Jire De Los Santos at 154 as well. Party. Last
51:21
thing, and this is the reason we're here. Motherfucking...
51:27
Jaron Ennis versus Imantas Stanionis. Other than
51:32
Ray Ford versus Thomas Matisse, is there anything
51:36
else on the undercard worth talking about? Wasn't
51:38
Omari Jones fighting in this one or no? He is.
51:42
Omari Jones fighting? Yeah. That's going to be
51:44
worth checking out. Oh, he was on... Yeah, that's
51:48
right. He was on DAZN not too... Like, fucking
51:52
two weeks ago. Three weeks ago. It's going to
51:56
be worth checking out for him. I'm watching his
51:58
career closely. Yeah, Lamar Jones is definitely
52:02
worth watching. I don't recognize anybody else
52:06
other than Ray Ford, so have fun with that. And
52:11
Jaron Ennis unifying the IBF and his IBF with
52:17
Stan Jonas' WBA title. Oh. What happens? Boots
52:22
should win this, right? Yeah, he should. That's
52:24
what we're all expecting? Yes. The thing is that
52:29
I don't think he's going to win easily. No. I
52:32
think it's going to be a war, in my opinion.
52:36
I've been thinking about a lot of fights this
52:38
year, but this one for sure, the way that Stan
52:43
Yodas fights and Boots fights, it's going to
52:45
devolve into something spectacular. But gruesome,
52:49
I think. I like standing on this. I'm going to
52:53
cheer for him. I'm pretty give or take on Enes.
52:58
The thing with Boots, he's really good. He's
53:01
exceptionally well. He does an exceptionally
53:04
well job at taking down a high guard. But, I
53:08
mean, in my opinion, I think Boots makes a lot
53:10
of mistakes that not a lot of people see. I think
53:12
one of the biggest is his inside work and his
53:17
defense on the inside because a lot of the time
53:20
he just... I don't know the word, but he just
53:22
stops. You know what I mean? He holds a Philly
53:25
shell on the inside. And he doesn't have, like...
53:28
I want to explain this. You know, like, let me
53:32
give you an example. His last fight, right, with
53:33
Chuka Sedazian. He got hit a lot with shots that
53:36
he should not have gotten hit with if he was
53:39
an elite fighter. You know? He has a really...
53:42
He makes the mistake of just standing in the
53:45
pocket and staying still. You know what I mean?
53:49
Yeah, no, I agree with you. He kind of takes
53:53
breaks almost. Exactly, yeah. And it's like,
53:56
well, if Danny Otis catches him hard, because
53:59
Danny Otis, he's a pretty hard puncher, right?
54:03
He's got heavy hands. And if he catches boots
54:07
with the left hook, which that's potentially
54:11
going to happen. I don't know what's going to
54:13
happen. I don't know what's going to unfold.
54:16
I think that... This is going to be, for sure,
54:19
Boots' hardest fight. Well, and I do think...
54:21
Knocked out on both ends. I do think Boots might
54:25
have trouble getting Stanionis' respect. Stanionis
54:29
takes a punch well. Like, he's not going to be
54:33
scared. Yeah, for sure. The thing with Boots
54:36
is that I just worry for how he's going to take
54:39
a left hook from Stanionis. Because that Philly
54:42
shell, he does not belong... I don't know. I
54:46
just don't like him using the Philly shell. He's
54:49
from Philly, but you don't need it. Yeah. No,
54:54
this one should be exciting. I'm excited for
54:57
it. Predictions? Ennis with a close decision.
55:06
I think Ennis is probably going to win it, but
55:09
I'm going to be cheering for Stanionis. I might
55:12
put a coffee bet on Stanionis. I think the odds
55:14
will be pretty wide. I believe there's two ways
55:19
it could go. I believe, I think, like what you
55:22
said, a really close end of decision or a standing
55:26
on his TKO. TKO, specifically. Specifically,
55:33
yeah. I don't see standing on his winning this
55:35
via decision. If it's a matchup fight, I don't
55:39
see standing on his winning decision. Possible.
55:43
I don't know about impossible, but unlikely.
55:47
I would say impossible with a match room. They
55:50
tend to do that type of shit. You know? You guys
55:55
know politics, you know? They're not going to
55:57
let Boots Ennis win. Or they're going to have
56:01
to let him lose a decision against a PBC fighter
56:03
on their own. Freaking, you know, on their own
56:06
freaking card. You know what I mean? No. That's
56:12
true. I'm going to be cheering for Estani on
56:14
SKO. Same. Yeah, me too. I like boots, but I
56:18
mean, it would be fun to see. It would be funny
56:21
to see Stanley on his win. Well, we got to back
56:25
the Lithuanians. That's true. I don't know why,
56:30
but we do. I was waiting for the explanation.
56:36
They're not American. Oh. And then I remembered
56:40
you guys were both American. I disagree because
56:43
I thought it was funny. Well, anything more for
56:47
the matchroom card? No. All right. Well, then,
56:51
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That. So, we're heading into Boots Weekend. Also,
58:10
UFC 314, Fear of the Persuasion. But it's Boots
58:15
Weekend. Parting words. Alex, start us off. Yeah.
58:23
I'm hopeful to see how Omar Jones' career looks
58:26
like, his professional career. I think he can
58:30
excel. I know a lot of Olympic guys, they kind
58:35
of... become so part of the pros. But you know
58:39
what? I think he can. He's got the goods. I think
58:43
he's got the goods. We'll see what happens in
58:44
the future. My turn? Yep. I actually got a quote
58:49
for this one. So, I really like Edgar Allan Poe's
58:54
writing and his whole life story is fucking madness
58:57
and his death is crazy. If you guys don't know
59:01
how Edgar Allan Poe died, you should go read
59:03
the Wikipedia. Absolutely. Yeah. It's, well,
59:08
like, mysteriously is the best way to put it.
59:10
He disappeared one night, and then they found
59:13
him the next day delirious in somebody else's
59:17
clothes. And then he died at the hospital. And
59:20
nobody knows what the fuck happened. But Edgar
59:24
Allan Poe's life is awesome. But I found a quote,
59:29
not from one of his stories, but just something
59:31
he said that I really liked. All religion, my
59:34
friend, is simply evolved out of fraud, fear,
59:37
greed, imagination, and poetry. I like that one.
59:42
I like boxing. Yeah, I need to find somebody
59:44
who liked boxing and wrote about boxing. But
59:47
I have read every Edgar Allan Poe story and poem,
59:51
and some of them are hit or miss, but a lot of
59:54
the less popular ones are really mindfucks. Yes,
59:58
I've read a few of them. Yeah, I love them. I
1:00:04
think I already mentioned UFC 314, so check out
1:00:08
Ultimate FN Casuals if you want to hear more
1:00:10
about that event. You can't see it, but I'm wearing
1:00:14
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1:00:17
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1:00:26
another George Foreman quote here. Boxing is
1:00:28
like jazz. The better it is, the less people
1:00:31
appreciate it. Nice. Confound. God damn it, George.
1:00:36
Always with the good shit. I know. That's going
1:00:40
to do it for this edition. And if you want to
1:00:42
hear about a whole bunch of Japanese boxing.
1:00:45
Boxing before dark. Because I have three cards
1:00:48
that we're going to go through. And they were
1:00:50
all exciting. Oh, shit. Was I right? Yeah. That's
1:00:58
it for this edition of the Boxing B -Sides. We'll
1:01:01
catch you next time. Bye. Later. Welcome to the
1:01:17
fucking show. All right, just a quick blurb,
1:01:19
just so you can get back to what you were doing.
1:01:22
Why would a boxing fan, let's assume they're
1:01:28
like a purist or some shit. Why would they want
1:01:31
to watch MMA? Why would they want to listen to
1:01:35
an MMA show? I'm going to come at this from sort
1:01:38
of like a primal level. So I will admit there
1:01:41
are some very unique and stark differences between
1:01:46
MMA and boxing. And it seems like one of the
1:01:49
main things that keeps boxing fans away from
1:01:53
MMA is the grappling aspect. And yet sometimes
1:01:56
it can be a lay and pray. uh type of fight and
1:02:00
it can get old but man like it's just instinctual
1:02:06
man some of these people the way they find an
1:02:08
mma is just brutal and i feel like that's what
1:02:12
it comes down to when it comes to being a combat
1:02:13
fan a combat sports fan um i mean we saw it just
1:02:18
recently uh mauricio uh roofie versus uh bobby
1:02:23
green a spinning back fit or spinning uh a wheel
1:02:27
wheel uh wheel kick Man, it's I mean, they went
1:02:30
viral and it's something that everyone can appreciate,
1:02:33
even boxing fans. I know if you have a few friends
1:02:36
that are boxing fans who I sent him that clip.
1:02:40
I mean, and they they were amazed and that, you
1:02:44
know, they won't even tell me that they wish
1:02:45
they would have seen it live because seeing seeing
1:02:48
that that type of stuff live just elicits like
1:02:52
a euphoric feeling that, you know, you can't
1:02:55
get. I mean, it happens in boxing, too. Whenever
1:02:57
you see like an amazing fight. But I just got
1:03:00
to say, like in MMA, you get those type of fights
1:03:04
as well, just in a different type. It's different,
1:03:08
but sort of the same. It's sort of weird how
1:03:11
I describe it, but it's different, but the same.
1:03:13
It comes down to that same like carnal or primal
1:03:16
instinct of just like fights. Yeah, I always
1:03:21
think like the biggest. The easiest transition
1:03:24
that I always recommend, I say this all the time
1:03:27
on Ultimate fucking Casuals, is if you're not
1:03:31
too keen on the grappling, Muay Thai and kickboxing
1:03:36
are exactly where you want to start. Like, you
1:03:40
start working on the kicks, the elbows, the knees,
1:03:42
all that stuff, and you can come to learn to
1:03:47
appreciate grappling. I never thought I would,
1:03:50
and here I am. Yeah. Like I said, some of it
1:03:54
is very boring, some of the grappling. It depends
1:03:56
on the fighters, but sometimes, man, there's
1:03:58
boring boxing fights all the time. Yeah, you're
1:04:02
right. But man, some of these grapplers, man,
1:04:06
these scrambles that they do, it is pretty crazy
1:04:09
just to see it. Rolling around the floor, you
1:04:13
can see the stuff that they're doing in between
1:04:15
the scrambles. It's sort of crazy. Flipping someone
1:04:17
over, the trips, I mean, it's... It can be fun,
1:04:21
but yeah, you're right. The easiest transition
1:04:22
is definitely start out with Muay Thai, kickboxing,
1:04:25
and, you know, slowly work your way into MMA.
1:04:28
And, you know, this is the thing about the ultimate
1:04:32
fucking casuals. We will let you know which fights
1:04:35
are going to be good. Which ones, you know, if
1:04:38
you're not too in tune with the grappling, we
1:04:40
can get maybe a little tag or a little asterisk
1:04:44
on certain fights saying, like, this is a boxing
1:04:48
purist type of fight. you can watch this and
1:04:51
enjoy this like we'll let you know yeah we always
1:04:55
try um like i came into this the whole show was
1:04:58
started with me i didn't know shit about mma
1:05:01
i'd never really seen an mma fight in its entirety
1:05:04
in my entire life and i came into this with nothing
1:05:08
and yeah that's where we're at now is like we're
1:05:10
talking like i make sure i go out of my way to
1:05:14
bring up muay thai And bring up kickboxing so
1:05:17
that people know. For boxing fans to know, this
1:05:21
is where you can start. All right. Well, that
1:05:26
was about it. I really appreciate your time.
1:05:29
Thanks, Isaac, for jumping on real quick. Thanks
1:05:33
for having me on. All right. Thank you.