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Speaker Chaos: What It Means & What's Next, plus Crime Surges as Dem Congressman Gets Car-Jacked · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Verdictra Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you,
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: and history was made. Kevin McCarthy becomes the first House
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  Speaker 2: Speaker in American history to be voted out of the
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  Speaker 2: speaker's job. The vote to sixteen to two ten to
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  Speaker 2: vacate the chair. Eight Republicans voted with the Democrats to
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  Speaker 2: remove him. Those Republicans Biggs, Bucks, Birchant, Crane, Gates, good Mace,
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  Speaker 2: and Rosendale Center.
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  Speaker 1: This is obviously a day of history.
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  Speaker 2: It's somewhat not shocking to me because there's been a
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  Speaker 2: lot of this, you know, bickering back and forth since
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy got the job. We saw how long it
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  Speaker 2: took him to get the job.
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  Speaker 3: Your reaction, well, it's obviously a big, big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And I have to say my sentiments today are are conflicted.
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  Speaker 3: I think I feel like a lot of Republicans, like
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  Speaker 3: a lot of conservatives across the country. I think some
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  Speaker 3: of the hyperbolic sentiments on both sides of the spectrum
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  Speaker 3: are exactly that they're hyperbolic. I think some of the
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  Speaker 3: folks celebrating and dancing on the graves are too excited
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  Speaker 3: about this. I think some of the folks mourning and
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  Speaker 3: saying the republic is ending are too much in despair.
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  Speaker 3: My reaction is as follows Number one. As I look
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  Speaker 3: at the state of the country, House, Republicans are about
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  Speaker 3: the only thing to be encouraged by. I mean, we've
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  Speaker 3: got a disastrous executive branch led by Joe Biden and
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  Speaker 3: other zealots on the left who are doing enormous damage
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  Speaker 3: to this country. We've got a Senate that is a
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  Speaker 3: train wreck. The Chuck Schumer Democrats are disastrous. And so
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  Speaker 3: the lone point of hope and optimism in the elected
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  Speaker 3: spears is the Republican House. And so I have to
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  Speaker 3: admit I am sad to see the Republican House in
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  Speaker 3: utter disarray and chaos. That makes me disappointed. When we
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  Speaker 3: are fighting each other, that means we're not unified and
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  Speaker 3: fighting the bad guys. We're not unified and fighting the
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  Speaker 3: people who are destroying this country. At the same time,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the place that a lot of people are.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what comes next. I don't know. It
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  Speaker 3: certainly appears as you and I it is just before
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  Speaker 3: midnight Tuesday night. At this point, I have no idea
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  Speaker 3: who the next Speaker of the House is going to
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  Speaker 3: be It appears right now, it's not going to be
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  Speaker 3: Kevin McCarthy. I don't know if it's someone else. What
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  Speaker 3: I hope is, whoever the Speaker of the House is
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  Speaker 3: is going to be a strong conservative leader. And listen,
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  Speaker 3: my job is to represent thirty million Texans in the Senate.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm going to stay out of House leadership elections.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to trust that to the members of the House.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to put my thumb on any particular
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  Speaker 3: candidate on one side or the other, but I will say,
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  Speaker 3: whoever the speaker is, hope we have a speaker that
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  Speaker 3: is a strong conservative leader. And looking forward, what should
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  Speaker 3: we be doing for the remaining three months of twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty three and for next year. I think we ought
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  Speaker 3: to be fighting for bold conservative principles. We ought to
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  Speaker 3: be taking on the Democrats. We ought to be on
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  Speaker 3: the offense. We ought to be on the aggressive. We
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  Speaker 3: ought to be prosecuting the case that the Biden agenda
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  Speaker 3: is a train wreck, that it's not working, that it's
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  Speaker 3: hurting millions of Americans, and that there is a better alternative. Now, Listen,
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  Speaker 3: I've been arguing for over a year that the House
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  Speaker 3: Republicans should be more aggressive than they have been. So,
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  Speaker 3: for example, I believe we should have impeached Alejandro Majorcas.
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  Speaker 3: I think we should have done so by now. We've
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  Speaker 3: talked a lot on this podcast about the utter disaster
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  Speaker 3: that our southern border has been. I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: mistake that the House has not impeached Mayorcus yet. That
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  Speaker 3: should be an early and top priority of whoever the
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  Speaker 3: next Speaker is. I think we should have impeached Merrick Garland.
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  Speaker 3: I think the absolute lawlessness and politicization of the Department
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  Speaker 3: of Justice and the FBI merits impeachment. And my hope
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  Speaker 3: is whoever the next speaker is makes those one and
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  Speaker 3: two very early on their priority lists. I think those
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  Speaker 3: are issues that unify Republicans. They unify conservatives, they unify
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  Speaker 3: a lot of Americans who don't want lawless chaos and
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  Speaker 3: death and sexual assault and drug overdoses and disaster in
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  Speaker 3: our southern border. I think they unify people who don't
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  Speaker 3: want to see law enforcement turned into a political weapon.
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  Speaker 3: I think being on offense is a winning place to be,
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  Speaker 3: and beyond that, when it comes to spending, I hope
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  Speaker 3: that the House is passing appropriations bills that rein in
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  Speaker 3: the out of control spending from the Democrats that are
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  Speaker 3: causing rampant inflation that's hurting Americans across the country. I
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  Speaker 3: think the key to winning used to have bold, optimistic,
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  Speaker 3: positive conservative leadership, and I believe that good policy is
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  Speaker 3: good politics. So whoever the next Speaker is, I hope
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  Speaker 3: that's what we do.
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  Speaker 2: There's also the politics of picking the next guy, and
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of people saying, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: i'd want this job right now if there's this type
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  Speaker 2: of fighting. There's been several members that I talked to
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  Speaker 2: that said there's ideas of picking someone that could be
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  Speaker 2: a unifier just to say, hey, I'm not gonna run again,
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  Speaker 2: but as a unifier to finish out the term. Steve
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  Speaker 2: Scalise's name, for example, has been brought up in that
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  Speaker 2: capacity of saying, hey, this may be a person that
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  Speaker 2: could bring us together. This someone that's saying I'm not
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  Speaker 2: I don't have the intent to be the speaker after this.
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  Speaker 2: Finishing this term, you guys can pick somebody else afterwards,
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  Speaker 2: but let's come back together. Is that a strategy that
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  Speaker 2: Republicans should at least look.
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  Speaker 3: At look the idea that we should have a speaker
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  Speaker 3: that's a placeholder. I don't find that very persuasive. We
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  Speaker 3: have a majority, let's have a leader who actually leads. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying the job is easy. The job is
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  Speaker 3: unbelievably hard, particularly when you have such a narrow majority.
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  Speaker 3: You have a four vote majority. That means any five
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  Speaker 3: Republicans get a wild hair and you could have a
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  Speaker 3: revolt on your hand. And the problem is you can
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  Speaker 3: have it from the right, from the left, from the middle.
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  Speaker 3: You can have it parochially, you can have it geographically,
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  Speaker 3: you can have it on any damn basis it is.
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  Speaker 3: I've joked, I'm not sure there are many people I
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  Speaker 3: dislike enough to wish that they would be Speaker of
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  Speaker 3: the House.
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  Speaker 4: It is an insanely difficult job.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great way of putting it.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, it's like you wouldn't wish this on
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  Speaker 2: your worst enemy in a sense.
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  Speaker 3: And it's also very different when you're a Republican. So listen,
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  Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi was the speaker on an incredibly narrow Democrat majority.
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  Speaker 3: But Democrats and Republicans are different in many respects. But
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  Speaker 3: in Congress, one of the biggest respects is Democrats follow orders.
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  Speaker 3: They are collectivists, they are statists. They are good with authority.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever the authority says, they cracked the whip, and every
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  Speaker 3: one of them obeys, and like lemmings, they march off
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  Speaker 3: the cliff. That's what Democrats do. That's the strength of theirs.
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  Speaker 3: That's a weakness of theirs. On the Republican side, we're
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of individualists. In the Senate, We've got forty
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  Speaker 3: nine Republicans. We got forty nine Republicans. We have fifty
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  Speaker 3: five different agendas. Like it is incoherent. We're at each
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  Speaker 3: other's throats. And part of the challenge with the leadership
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  Speaker 3: battle in the House is it's not clear what the
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  Speaker 3: demand of the conference is. So look, we had a battle.
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  Speaker 3: We came inches from a shutdown, and one of the
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  Speaker 3: challenges was knowing, okay, what is the demand of House
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  Speaker 3: Republicans to prevent a shutdown to actually fund government? And
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  Speaker 3: if there was a clearly articulated, explicit demand, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what it was. The demands fell roughly into two
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  Speaker 3: broad buckets. One was some modicum of fiscal restraint. And look,
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  Speaker 3: you and I believe passionately in that we've seen the
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  Speaker 3: most wildly irresponsible federal government spending in history in the
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  Speaker 3: last two and a half years under Democrat control. It's
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  Speaker 3: driving rampant inflation, it's hurting millions of Americans, and so
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  Speaker 3: reining in we've seen a forty percent increase in discretionary
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  Speaker 3: spending in the last three years. COVID was an excuse
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  Speaker 3: for the socialist to bankrupt this country, and so the
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  Speaker 3: principle of let's have some reasonable monicum of fiscal restraint,
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  Speaker 3: that's a good principle. The second broad bucket was doing
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  Speaker 3: something significant, meaningful to rein in the utter chaos and
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  Speaker 3: disaster of southern border. Now I agree emphatically with that.
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  Speaker 3: It's the worst illegal immigration or a nation's history. That's
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  Speaker 3: a good objective. The problem was, after articulating those two
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  Speaker 3: broad buckets, what the specific ask is if you can
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  Speaker 3: articulate it, Ben, you're playing closer attention than I am,
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  Speaker 3: because I don't know, and it's because you had lots
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  Speaker 3: of agendas that were all over the place. Now, I
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  Speaker 3: will say there were some leaders in the House, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give a shout out to Chip Roy in particular,
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  Speaker 3: as you know Chip was my old chief of staff.
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  Speaker 3: He was my very first chief of staff. He's now
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  Speaker 3: a congressman from Texas. I think Chip has done an
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  Speaker 3: excellent job trying to fight for He was fighting for
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  Speaker 3: Continuing Resolution that was a significant cut and discretionary spending
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  Speaker 3: that had significant steps to rein in the southern border,
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  Speaker 3: and unfortunately they couldn't get a majority of Republicans to support.
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  Speaker 1: It, which is, by the way, disappointed.
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  Speaker 3: That was maddening, it was insane, It made no sense.
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  Speaker 3: I was proud of the job Chip did. I think
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  Speaker 3: we need to have a clear and real vision for
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  Speaker 3: Republicans and conservatives in the House. Maybe it will come
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  Speaker 3: out of this. So I'm not as despondent as some
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  Speaker 3: you see some voices on TV saying burn them all down.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone who dared to pose McCarthy needs to be, you know, excommunicated,
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  Speaker 3: and we need to salt their fields. I'm like, easy,
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  Speaker 3: does it, guys. We don't have a big enough majority
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  Speaker 3: to be salting anyone's fields. Let's actually focus on what matters,
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  Speaker 3: which is saving this country. And I hope that's what's next.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it is, but I hope it is.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you don't even like playing sports anymore, and that's
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  Speaker 2: just perspective question. There does seem to be a frustration.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm in New York today and I'm up here,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I always knew you were a secret lefty.
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  Speaker 2: Look that's right, that's right, Yeah, hanging in Manhattan, but
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  Speaker 2: up here doing TV.
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  Speaker 4: All right, all right, Ben, did you mug anyone today?
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  Speaker 1: No? I did not, and I made sure that I had.
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  Speaker 1: I stayed away from all the crazies.
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  Speaker 2: I walked from Fox News back to my hotel, back
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  Speaker 2: to Fox News, back to my hotel.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: When in Rome? When in Rome? Apparently that's what you
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: got to do in New York.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just part of like the life here, right,
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  Speaker 2: you just randomly fucked people.
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  Speaker 3: But but you did at least spray some graffiti on
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: the subway. Well, I mean, I mean you got to
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: do a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I did, verdict, right, just so people would know where
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  Speaker 2: to download it. That's all another big deal. It's just
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: an ad sign. But but I was here and there
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: was people that were asking and it was the same
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: conversation within Fox. And it's interesting when there's big news
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: days to kind of see how people react to it.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: And we were in the green room, we were chatting
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: about this, and there's several other people and I'll keep
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: them remaining nameless, but there was a there was a
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  Speaker 2: consensus of why is it the Democrats do such a
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  Speaker 2: great job of arguing and fighting and yelling on the
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  Speaker 2: House side behind closed doors, and they come out more united,
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  Speaker 2: and then it seems like Republicans are having a lot
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  Speaker 2: of out of fighting outside of the of the of
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  Speaker 2: the closed door meetings and the chambers and on social
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  Speaker 2: media and on Twitter. I mean, you had an example,
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  Speaker 2: you had a bring it on tweet from Kevin McCarthy,
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  Speaker 2: and then you had we did or I did from
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  Speaker 2: Matt Gates in response like Okay, let's go. You don't
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  Speaker 2: see that from Democrats, And I ask you from a
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  Speaker 2: perspective on the Senate side, the Senate seems to work
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  Speaker 2: in a very different way where there's people that disagree,
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  Speaker 2: you deal with it. All the time, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: seem to play out the same way that it does
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  Speaker 2: on the House side, and I think that can actually
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  Speaker 2: hurt us as conservatives. You and I want your perspective
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  Speaker 2: because you're there every day.
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  Speaker 3: Look, there are different times. There's no doubt that the
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  Speaker 3: House and the Senate are very different bodies. You know,
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  Speaker 3: there's an old joke from House Republicans, which which is
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  Speaker 3: that the Democrats are opponents, but the Senate is the enemy.
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  Speaker 4: There's some truth to that.
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  Speaker 3: I get that that there is a bicmeeral tension that
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  Speaker 3: is real. The House is more chaotic, it is less unified,
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  Speaker 3: it is all over the place. It's four hundred and
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  Speaker 3: thirty five people and so and often the people have
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  Speaker 3: not been there very long. You have people from all
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  Speaker 3: disparate walks of life, and there's an ethos where they're nasty,
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  Speaker 3: nastier to each other. My sense, and I've never served
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  Speaker 3: in the House, but my sense is that they literally,
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  Speaker 3: like in the hallways, we'll say f you to each other.
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  Speaker 3: In the Senate, that doesn't happen. The Senate is number one.
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  Speaker 3: It's just an older body. Listen, I'm fifty two years
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  Speaker 3: old and I'm like a young chickadee in the Senate.
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  Speaker 3: I've joked, if you ever want to feel young, go
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  Speaker 3: to the US Senate. The median age is like one hundred.
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  Speaker 4: And forty two. You'll feel sprite.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's some truth to that, but there's also
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  Speaker 3: just a sense people are there longer. It's a smaller body.
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  Speaker 3: They're only one hundred of us. And whoever you're fighting today,
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  Speaker 3: you may need their vote tomorrow. And so you know,
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  Speaker 3: even the most partisan Democrat are not typically nasty to
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  Speaker 3: you just one on one because the institution, you have
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  Speaker 3: to work with each other going forward. The challenge right
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  Speaker 3: now in the House is among the multiple multiple rebels.
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  Speaker 3: There's no natural and uniform and consensus leader.
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  Speaker 4: Listen.
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  Speaker 3: In the Senate, we had a leadership challenge in November,
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  Speaker 3: and I was the point of the spear on the
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: leadership challenge. In November of last year, we had the
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  Speaker 3: first leadership challenge in sixteen years to Mitch McConnell's leader.
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  Speaker 2: And you got to go back to your speech because
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna forget this, and it was I remember how
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: and people may have missed this on Verdict when you
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: stood up talking about how important was to pick the
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  Speaker 2: right leader. Can you go back to that day, because
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  Speaker 2: this is part of that fighting and the grand debate
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  Speaker 2: is I would call it behind closed doors.
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  Speaker 3: Well, sure, if you look to November of twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 3: we had the first leadership challenge to Mitch McConnell in history.
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  Speaker 3: He's been leader of Republicans for sixteen years, have never
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  Speaker 3: been a leadership challenge. We had that in November twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty two. I was the point of the spear. I
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  Speaker 3: led that challenge. And the way Republican leadership challenges work
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: and Republican leadership elections work, they happen the week after
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  Speaker 3: the general election. So the general election happened, and immediately
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  Speaker 3: the next week, the very first thing that happens, we
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  Speaker 3: have leadership elections. Now there's a reason for that. You
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  Speaker 3: have all these brand new baby freshman senators. They come
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  Speaker 3: to Washington and they don't know what they're doing. They're
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  Speaker 3: putting little bitty basement offices before they moved into their
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  Speaker 3: real offices. They have no idea what's going on. And
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: leadership schedules the elections so fast because they don't want
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  Speaker 3: any freshmen to get any up at the ideas and
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  Speaker 3: decide to challenge any of the leadership. They wanted to
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  Speaker 3: shut up and vote before they figured out where the
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  Speaker 3: men's room is. The week after the election, you come
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  Speaker 3: together to vote. I remember in twenty twelve, I was
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  Speaker 3: newly elected. I show up and I'm like, wow, okay,
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  Speaker 3: a Senate leadership election. This is kind of cool. This
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  Speaker 3: is going to be interesting. We're going to see debates
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  Speaker 3: about what should we as Senate Republicans be doing. What's
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  Speaker 3: our agenda, what's our vision, what's our plan. I went
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  Speaker 3: really looking forward to it. I got admit, man, I
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  Speaker 3: was flabbergasted. I sat down. So the leadership election is
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  Speaker 3: always held in the historic Senate Chamber. So that's where
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  Speaker 3: the Senate used to meet for one hundred years in
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  Speaker 3: the capital. It's a much smaller, billion room than the
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  Speaker 3: Senate floor, and it's where we go for our leadership elections.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I expected each of the candidates for
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  Speaker 3: leadership to stand up and give a speech and say
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  Speaker 3: here's what I want to do if you elect me.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: That doesn't happen.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, think back to when you and I were
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: in junior high someone was running for president of the
• 17:48
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• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I'm going to vote for Ben Great. None of that happens. Instead,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: the way a Senate leadership election works as you have
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: three or four senators stand up and give nominating speeches
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: praising the incumbent leadership, and I just I mean we're
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: talking effusive, ass kissing, puffing, empty speeches about how amazing
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  Speaker 3: the existing leaders are, one after the other after the other.
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  Speaker 3: And then leadership gets elected by acclamation and the leader
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  Speaker 3: gets up and says, thank you very much. All right,
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  Speaker 3: moving forward, and there's no there's not a word of
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: like what we're going to do, what we believe, what
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: we're like, what the plan is. None of that happens.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I remember the first time I'm sitting there and going
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: this is weird. All right, Well, let's fast forward to
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. We have the leadership elections, and the
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: very first salvo in the battle is is I made
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: a motion to delay the elections a month to delay
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: them until after the Georgia runoff. So you remember there
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: was a runoff for who was good the next senator
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: from Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: In Georgia with herschel Wamer, we had no idea what
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  Speaker 1: was going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I stood up and I said two things
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  Speaker 3: to my colleagues. I said, number one, listen, if herschel
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Walker wins, he deserves to say and who our leader is,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: if he's going to be one of the senators, he
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: deserves to have input in this. So we ought to
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: wait until December sixth until we know who the next
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Senator from.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Georgia is going to be.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: But I said, secondly, we just came out of an
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: election in twenty twenty two where we got our ass kicked.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: And I said, listen, given the absolute disaster that is
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: the Biden administration, the Biden agenda, the Biden record, we
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: should have had a phenomenal election. We should have won
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: the Senate. We should have won a big, big majority
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: in the House. We should be resurgent right now. Instead,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: we lost the Senate. In fact, we lost ground. We
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: ended up losing a seat in the Senate and we
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: won a tiny, minuscule fore vote majority in the House.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: And what I s said to the conference, I said, listen,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: in any ordinary organization and any company in America, if
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I'm working for a private company and I'm in charge
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  Speaker 3: of a division and I lost one hundred million dollars,
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  Speaker 3: my boss wouldn't be like, hey, great, great job, ted
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  Speaker 3: keep doing what you're doing. They'd be like, no, what
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: the hell's wrong. Let's talk about what you screwed up
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: and let's go fix it, because it's not okay to
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: lose one hundred million dollars. Well, we just got clobbered
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: in the last election. I said, we ought to spend
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: the next month talking about and debating what we did
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: right and what we did wrong. And I pointed out further,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I said, listen, we just spent the last two years
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two with a handful
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: of Republicans joining with the Democrats to pass the Democrat agenda.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I said, listen, maybe that's a good idea. I don't
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: think it is, but but maybe you could argue it's
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: a good idea. But I can say, at a minimum,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: what is indisputable is the Democrats don't do this. We
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: had two years with a Republican President Donald Trump in
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: a Republican House and a Republican Senate, and there was
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: not a single bill, not one that the Democrats joined
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: with the Republicans to pass the Republican agenda. So they
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: never ever ever do it, and we spent two years
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: doing it. Now seems to me that was a really
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: bad electoral strategy. But we had to discuss that, and
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: if you disagree, let's talk about it. And then what
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: I did secondly, I mean, I mean my speech was
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: forty five minutes long right at the outset. What I
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: did secondly is I turned to Mitch McConnell in the
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: historic Senate Chamber and I said, Mitch, over the next
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: two years, what are you prepared to fight on? Is
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: there anything you're prepared to fight on? I said, listen,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of things. I think we ought
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: to stand up and fight. I think the biggest reason
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: we got clobbered is we didn't stand and fight nearly enough.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: We didn't stand for anything, and that's why we didn't win.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: But I said, you tell us, there may be a
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: dozen things I think we should fight on. Maybe you
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: disagree with me, you don't think we should fight or
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: a dozen things, But is there one over the next
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: two years, or is the position a Republican leadership. We
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: will surrender, we will roll over, we will grab our
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: ankles on everything. If that's your position, okay, but let's
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: be honest about it, all right. The end of my
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: forty five minute speech, Mitch McConnell stands up and he
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: gives a speech to the conference. He doesn't address a
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: single question I've asked. He doesn't say anything he's willing
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: to fight on. Instead, he points at a series of
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: senators and he goes, oh, I gave twenty million to
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: your campaign. I gave twenty five million to your campaign.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: I gave thirty million to your campaign. I gave thirty
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: five million to your campaign.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: That was his whole speech.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: It was essentially, shut up, I spent the money, Now
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: you vote for me. That was the leadership election we
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: ended up voting. I needed twenty five votes to prevail.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: There were forty nine of us, so twenty five would win.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I got sixteen, so I fell nine short. Now, on
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: one level, that's frustrating. On another level, those are the
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: first sixteen votes ever cast against Mitch. After that, Rick Scott,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: my colleague from Florida ran for leader against Mitch. I
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: voted for Rick. Rick got ten votes, so ten votes. Again,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: those were the first ten votes cast against Mitch, but
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: the high water mark were the sixteen that voted in
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: favor of my motion delay the leadership election. That's frustrating
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: at one level, but it is also signs that people
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: are recognizing we need to change what we're doing, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I hear that across Texas all the time. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: saying we need to burn the place to the ground.
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  Speaker 3: with real objectives, realtories, and a vision that is clearly
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• 24:05
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• 24:08
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  Speaker 2: the new speaker. That the longer this drags out, I
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  Speaker 2: think the wors it is. I think it's a bad
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  Speaker 2: news cycle. I mean, hell, you know, I still the
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  Speaker 2: timing and this is just me as a media guy.
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  Speaker 2: I was yelling at the TV today when this happened, going,
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  Speaker 2: you're making history getting rid of the speaker for the
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  Speaker 2: first time in history of this country. And you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: have waited maybe one or two more days and at
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: least had the media and the coverage beyond Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 2: being in federal court today, But you gave them an
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  Speaker 2: out and we didn't have to cover that story. He
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  Speaker 2: was in federal court today and that just got disappeared.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: You're going through an impeachment inquiry. I don't know what
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: ramifications this may have on that, but how quick should
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans move to fill this spot?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, the timing was driven by the individual who
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: made the motion to vacate, and so if there was
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: a systematic strategy behind it, I'm not aware of it.
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  Speaker 3: That's part of the challenge is that you don't have
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: a clear, consistent demand.
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  Speaker 4: That leads to a victory.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. I hope that we do. That's
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: a hard thing to get in part because very few
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: House members will defer to each other, and so you've
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: got lots of people putting out lots of ideas that
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: are all out there.
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  Speaker 4: In the cacophony.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how long the House will take. And listen,
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  Speaker 3: I've never served in the House. I'm not remotely an
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: expert on House procedure. I think they will have a battle.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: They're different people right now that seem to be putting
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: themselves forward to be potential speakers. I'm seeing coverage on
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: the news that Steve Scalise is making a run at it.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true. That's at least what
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: was reported on Fox. I was on Hannity tonight. Jim
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Jordan was on right before me. It sure seemed like
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Sean Hannity was trying to talk Jim Jordan into doing it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Jim was noncommittal. He said, that's going to be up
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: for the conference to decide. I don't know if somebody
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: else will be in the mix. I have no idea.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I will stay out of it. That's a decision for
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: House Republicans to decide. What I hope is whoever the
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: speaker is, and I don't know if they go back
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: to Kevin McCarthy again that you know, we had what
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: four hundred and thirty two votes for Kevin back at
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: the beginning of this conference, so maybe Kevin comes back.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: That's possible too. Whoever the speaker is. I hope we
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: have a clear, positive conservative vision, and I do think
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: we would be better off. As I mentioned at the
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: outset of this pod, if House Republicans had started off
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: by impeaching Alejandro Majorcis, the results today.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Might have been different.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: If we were in the midst of impeaching Merrick Garland,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: the results might have been different. I do think the
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: combination of number one, the debt ceiling fight, where where
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Conservatives did not get much of anything, and then a
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: clean cr I do think there was a frustration that
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: was manifested in votes, and so I think the way
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: you win elections is by having serious principle fights that matter.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: It's not easy to do.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: In the House, so I'm not diminishing how difficult it is,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: but I think that's the path to victory.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I want to move to something else that obviously got
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: pushed back in the headlines, but it still is important.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: The crime wave that we're seeing is not just sweeping
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the nation, but now it's affecting democratic leaders and leaders
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: in the liberal movement like we haven't seen before, and
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: it's happening way more often.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I'll give you an example.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: You have a Democratic Representative, Henry Queller, who was carjacked
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: at gunpoint in DC. This comes as in just the past,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: well it was in a twenty four hour period. You
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: had a liberal gay reporter that was shot and killed
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: in his home in Philly. You had a far left
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: activist that was stabbed to death by a deranged stranger
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: in Brooklyn in front of his girlfriend. You had this
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Democratic congressman who was carjacked at gunpoint in DC by
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: four African American men. And yet we have Democrats who
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: have a soft on crime policies that aren't just hurting
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: their neighborhoods that I mentioned these different spots, but it's
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: hurting people in Texas as well. And almost every House
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Democrat voted against the Republican efforts to stop the DC
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Week on Crime bill, which specifically would have reduced carjacking penalties.
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  Speaker 2: This is something that the Democrats, I mean they voted
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: for its Aldred for example, voted with the Dems on
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: this one.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It's shocking to me.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, crime is out of control in this country,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and it's an issue that has people understandably very concerned.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I watched tonight the video of the liberal activists in
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: New York at four in the morning being stabbed to
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: death on the streets of New York by a guy
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: that certainly appears deranged. It was horrific to watch. You're right,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: the news of the left wing journalist in Philadelphia who
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: was shot I think seven times in his own home
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: and killed in the past few days. Look, Henry Quayar
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: is a Democrat congressman from Texas. I know Henry well.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Henry represents Laredo up to San Antonio. Henry is the
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: most conservative of the Texas Democrats. I worked hand in
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: hand with Henry, for example, on the Texas Bridges. We've
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: talked on this podcast before about four bridges from Texas
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: to Mexico that Henry and I teamed up in and
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: won big legislative victories to build new bridges to Mexico
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: for legal commerce, to expand bridges. Henry, as I said,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: is by far the most conservative of the Texas Democrats. Well,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: in the last couple of days, Henry was coming to
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: his apartment in DC. It was nine thirty at night
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: and he was getting out of his car and it
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: was carjacked. He was carjacked by four individuals. They put
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: a gun in his face, they stole the car, they
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: stole his luggage. Presumably I haven't spoken to Henry since
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: it happened, but you have to assume that with a
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: gun in his face, he was afraid for his life.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, that is frightening. My understanding is Henry lives
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: at an apartment building where there were multiple members of
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Congress who lived there. That there are apparently multiple members
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: of congressional leadership who live there, which means there are
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of Capitol police around there. And at nine
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: thirty at night he was carjacked on the streets of DC.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: And then that reflects the crime wave that is sweeping
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: this country.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: The DC City Council, which is populated by left wing Democrats,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: they voted to lower the penalties for violent crimes, including carjackings.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: In particular, they voted to lower the sentence from twenty
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: one years to seven years, and they voted to lower
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the sentence from forty years if armed to fifteen years,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: and under the revised code, carjacking is now divided into
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: three gradations dependent on severity, with the lowest penalties for
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: an unarmed defense ranging from four to eighteen years, and
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: the highest penalties from an armed defense ranging from twelve
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: to twenty four years. Now in the Congress, thankfully, the
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Congress has the ability to rescind any legislation in the
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: District of Columbia. And the reason for that is the
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Constitution gives Congress total authority over DC. Unlike a state.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: We can't rescind laws in Texas or any other state.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: But DC is a federal district in Congress has plenary
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: authority over it. And so in Congress we voted to
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: rescind these softened crime laws that lessen the penalties for
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: violent crimes. And the results are are horrific, as we're
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: seeing carjacking, murders crime rates skyrocketing in d C and
• 33:37
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• 35:40
  Speaker 6: there are billions of dollars to deal with crime. That's
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: just a fact. All you got to look is what
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: the President has been able to do this past two years.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: There's always going to be work, more work to be done.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: But the fact is the president has taken action.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: He hasn't taken action, He's done the opposite of that.
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  Speaker 3: She didn't have an answer to that. Holy crap. If
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: a Democrat congressman is getting carjacked on the streets of
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: DC at nine thirty pm. What the heck is the answer?
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: And she's like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: to answer that. And what was her answer, Well, you know,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden spending a ton of money, mind you, not
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: actually putting criminals in jail, not supporting police, not doing
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: anything to stop crime. But he's shoveling a whole lot
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: of cash at Democrat special interest groups. He's shoveling a
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: whole lot of cash at deficit spending that's causing rampant inflation.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: That is her answer. It's an utter non sequitur. And
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: by the way, it's not just Henry quaar Angie Craig,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: who is a Democrat Member of Congress from Minnesota, was
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: assaulted in the apartment of her DC her DC apartment
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: in February of this year.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: And this is a.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Pattern that is happening over and over and over again.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Let me give you some stats. Carjackings in DC are
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: up one hundred and nine percent, robberies are up sixty
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: eight percent, theft is up twenty two percent, homicides are
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: up thirty eight percent, and the city is on pace
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: for the deadliest year in two decades. Not only that
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: nine of the top ten cities with the highest homicide
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: rights are run by Democrats, Twenty seven of the top
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: thirty cities with the highest murder rates are run by Democrats.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: This is a pattern, and you're saying Kareem John Pierre
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: and the Biden White House utterly dodging responsibilities for their
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: soft on crime policies that are endangering people all across
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: the country.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Want to ask question for you, will Democrats move on
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: this because even the White House presbytery was asked a
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: question of follow up where she could have kind of
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: gotten a redo.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I got to play it. It's too good, not too If.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: President Biden's policies are helping bring crime down, would he
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: be comfortable with somebody borrowing his corvette and parking it
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: on the street overnight in Southeast DC.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna get into hypotheticals. I'm just gonna get
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: into the facts about what this president has done. In
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: this president, I mean, she's still screwed it up.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Look, of course, not nobody. Would you park your corvette
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: on the street. It's gonna get robbed, it's gonna get
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: broken into, it's gonna get keyed, It's gonna get vandalized.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: She can't answer that question, and so you know what
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: she's counting on. Look, that was a question from Fox News,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: so Fox will cover it. Ben, you worked for years
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: at CNN. Did CNN cover that exchange?
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Hell?
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: No, MSNBC, no, ABC, NBCCBS, Nope.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: They know that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: The corporate media, they are the puppets for the administration.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: They are the propagandas for the administration, they will repeat
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: the regime line. And so look, any sane person would
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: say no to the question, would you be happy with
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: your your your classic corvette parked on the streets of DC?
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Of course not.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Because crime is out of control and the problem is Look,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: let me underscore that again. When the DC City Council
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: looked at skyrocketing crime rates and said, you know what,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: the answer here is, let's lower the penalties on violent crime.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: That's the best solution. We've got too many murderers, too
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: many murders, too many carjackings. Let's send people to jail
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: for shorter times for murder and carjacking. That's a great idea.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: In Congress, thankfully we overturn that. Why do you think
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: crime is out of control?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a democratic party, and this is certainly going
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: to be an issue with the president sho election.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Dark Ben, Ben, hold on, Before we wrap up, I
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: want to ask you a final question.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I'm ready.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: If you're standing by a doorway and you see a
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: little red box that is three inches by four inches
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: and it says the word fire on it, and it
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: says pull this for the fire alarm, my question to
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: you is is that a doorknob?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: That is not a doorknob and that is not a
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: way to exit the building.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: But how do you know? How do you know? Ben? Seriously?
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's not like.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: That insurrectionism one oh one, right, Like, don't you immediately
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: lock that person up forever?
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this. It's not like you
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: were a high school principal. It's not like you were
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: a high school principal in a high school that had
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: fire alarms. It's not like you were a high school
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: principal in a high school that had fire alarms that
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: had a policy that said, if you, a student pulls
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: the fire alarm, you will be expelled. Jamal Bowman, the
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Democrat congressman, was a principal at a high school that
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: had a policy that if you Ben Ferguson, a student
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: in his high school pulled the fire alarm, you would
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: be expelled.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: And yet what did Jamal Bowman do?
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going to pull the fire alarm because I
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: want to stop the Republican vote.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: And why is it? His claim?
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: If you believe him, his defense is I'm dumber than
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: a box of rocks, and I think a fire alarm
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: is a doorknob. That is his defense, and that's the
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: best interpretation he can hope for.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: By the way, I have to ask now, because you
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: brought it up, if a Republican would have done that,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: how fast would they have been kicked out of Congress?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: And would they have a mug shot at this point?
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't think they'd be kicked out
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: of Congress, but I think they might have a mug shot.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: And my guess is.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Look, kicking people out of Congress is pretty severe. My
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: guess is the votes won't be there for that. My
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: prediction is they will censure him. I think the votes
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: will be there for censuring him. But it is a
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: criminal offense in the District of Columbia to pull a
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: fire alarm fraudulently, and he is on video doing that,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: but he is counting on the corporate media to ignore
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: the fact that he was willing to pull a fire
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: alarm to try to stop the Congress from voting on
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: a provision that he didn't like, which, mind you, was
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: a provision to fund the government, and he wanted to
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: force a government shut down, so he pulled a fire
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: alarm to cause it to happen. But again, he knew
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: the corporate media would cover for him, and they're doing
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: it right now.
• 41:56
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