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Interview of the Week: Linsey Davis, Anchor of ABC's Weekend World News Tonight and ABC News Live Prime · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. My next guest is Lindsay Davis.
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Speaker 1: She's a best selling author of the world is Wake
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Speaker 1: and One Big Heart. In February, Lindsey was tapped to
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Speaker 1: anchor the weekend broadcast of ABC News World Tonight and
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Speaker 1: She's All And She also anchors ABC News Lifetime Live Prime,
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Speaker 1: Excuse Me, the network streaming even newscast. She's also correspondent
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Speaker 1: for World News Tonight, Good Morning in America, and Nightline.
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Speaker 1: Please Welcome to Money Making Conversation. The anchor of ABC's
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Speaker 1: weekend World News Tonight and ABC News Live Prime, Lindsey
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Speaker 1: Davis Rushan, thank you so much for having me on.
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Speaker 1: I try to get it all in. I try to
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Speaker 1: get it all in because you know the thing about
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Speaker 1: our business business long enough to see faces like yours
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Speaker 1: that are not normal. They're normal now, but you know
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Speaker 1: one Pine in his time and his industry, they weren't normal,
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Speaker 1: especially if a female face being normal. You know, Ed
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Speaker 1: Bradley was our man at one time, and then so
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Speaker 1: as you start ascending. That's why I wanted to make
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Speaker 1: sure people saw the body of your work. And this
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Speaker 1: is only a small body of your work, but it's
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Speaker 1: an important body of work. With yours. You as a host,
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Speaker 1: as an anchor, get to articulate our stories. And I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty sure in as an African American, as a female,
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Speaker 1: and some of the stories that were put out there,
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Speaker 1: how are you able to balance the actual reporting of
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Speaker 1: the news and then the detachment of what you were reporting? Well,
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Speaker 1: you know what, Look, it's always about the facts, and
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Speaker 1: I think that it's also about knowing what you don't know.
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Speaker 1: And so I think that when you don't have a
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Speaker 1: lot of variation, a lot of variety of perspectives and
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Speaker 1: lenses and experiences at the proverbial table, um, then you're
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Speaker 1: missing some of the nuance to the story, right, and
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Speaker 1: some of the relevant facts, um, get thrown aside. And
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Speaker 1: so UM, I don't think that I'm coloring it, if
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Speaker 1: you will, with with anything except that I do come
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Speaker 1: with the perspective and the experience of of being a
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Speaker 1: black woman in America, and so I think that I
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Speaker 1: may have certain questions that I'm going to ask or
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Speaker 1: that I'm going to lean into based on my own experience. UM.
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Speaker 1: And I think of as you talk about how we
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Speaker 1: haven't had many people who look like me. That was
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Speaker 1: why it was so important on my first night when
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Speaker 1: I assumed the chair of Weekend World News Tonight on Sundays,
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Speaker 1: I had an interview that I did with Carol Simpson,
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Speaker 1: who was the first black woman to anchor any network
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Speaker 1: newscast back in the eighties. And you know, I look
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Speaker 1: forward to the day my son is seven, and I
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Speaker 1: look forward to when he grows up that we won't
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Speaker 1: still be talking about, well, this was the first or
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Speaker 1: the second, right, because hopefully the idea and the ideal
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Speaker 1: will be that enough people at that point would would
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Speaker 1: have ascended to various ranks that it just becomes oh,
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Speaker 1: another person, right, And and so for my son, I
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Speaker 1: really do look forward to where it becomes so commonplace
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Speaker 1: that we're not still counting, you know, the first or
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Speaker 1: or the second. You know, it's really interesting, especially entertainment.
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Speaker 1: You know, I remember when Steve Harvey, now back way
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Speaker 1: back in the eighty three, when he had his first opportunity.
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Speaker 1: ABC offered the first sitcom. I remember, we came to
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Speaker 1: Mr Rajan, ABC wants me to do a sitcom. I went,
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Speaker 1: you let up because it was just it was just
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Speaker 1: so far I could not even fathom. Somebody I knew,
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Speaker 1: black Man, he was a comedian poplic Commedia was being
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Speaker 1: offered a TV show on ABC. It was a pilot
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Speaker 1: at the time, and then I fast forward and as
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Speaker 1: you're aspiring to these heights, I wanted to be on
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Speaker 1: the news, wanted to deliver the news, being face of
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Speaker 1: the news and faced in media. What was that? What
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Speaker 1: was that journey like in college and your friends and
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Speaker 1: your peer groups, when you're telling them this is what
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Speaker 1: you wanted to do. Sure, you know, I think that
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Speaker 1: I've had the luxury or the benefit of having especially
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Speaker 1: within my own uh my own home, and so not
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Speaker 1: just my parents, um, but in the extended family as well,
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Speaker 1: where there was an expectation that you could do what
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Speaker 1: you wanted to do. And so I never felt limited
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Speaker 1: or constrained because of my race or gender, because there
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Speaker 1: was a mindset that if you want to do it,
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Speaker 1: if you want to run for president, run for president.
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Speaker 1: You know, no one was really telling me the likelihood
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Speaker 1: of success or how it was going to be so
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Speaker 1: much more difficult or so much harder, or no one
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Speaker 1: has done this before or whatever. It was just like, hey,
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Speaker 1: you want to do that, here's some tools. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: give you, some exposures, some opportunities, and you run with it.
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Speaker 1: You take it as far as you can. And so
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Speaker 1: when I decided when I was in college that I
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Speaker 1: wanted to become a journalist at the time, in particular
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Speaker 1: a reporter. Um. You know, my parents were just like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what do we have to do? What do you have
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Speaker 1: to do? And so at the time, you still had
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Speaker 1: to get a college credit for an internship, and I
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Speaker 1: had missed that opportunity because I was about to graduate.
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Speaker 1: I was at University of Pregunitay. So then I I
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Speaker 1: did what I've I've told subsequently that I had my
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Speaker 1: parents pay fifty thousand dollars so I could get an
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Speaker 1: internship because I went to n y U for for
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Speaker 1: grad school to get a master's. You don't need to
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Speaker 1: have a master's to be a journalist, but at the time,
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Speaker 1: I needed to get that extra year in order to
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Speaker 1: get an internship and to get credit for it. Um.
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Speaker 1: And so I would say that anything that I needed,
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Speaker 1: my parents were there right along with me, anticipating that
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Speaker 1: you know, if I wanted to do this, it could
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Speaker 1: be done. And my friends never batted. And I I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think that there was just this mindset of if you,
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Speaker 1: you know, work hard and put your mind to it,
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Speaker 1: you know you can achieve. And so I'm glad that
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Speaker 1: I didn't have um the naysayers uh too loudly in
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Speaker 1: my ear. But they are they are they ever just
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Speaker 1: reciting some of my experiences. I remember when I left
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Speaker 1: IBM to pursue a career as a stand up comedian.
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Speaker 1: Of course it's totally otlers from a news people look
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Speaker 1: at you're gonna be a comedian. I thought I would
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Speaker 1: be the next Eddie murphyus, somebody, somebody great like that.
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Speaker 1: Richard Pryor had it. Nobody could ever be him. He's
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Speaker 1: like the Michael Jordan of comedy. But then, but you know,
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Speaker 1: but it was always you know, people I didn't stand
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Speaker 1: in my way, but they always went okay, okay. But
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Speaker 1: then you started seeing little little steps well in the way,
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Speaker 1: little croms of opportunity became a reality. And then people
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Speaker 1: started realizing, and you started and I started realizing, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think I can really do this. Because even though
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Speaker 1: you can dream something, that doesn't mean it's gonna come true.
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Speaker 1: So as you were starting to go up there, like
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Speaker 1: you said you did the Intern, you went up to
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Speaker 1: n y U and you know, got the masters. But
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Speaker 1: when did you start really starting to fall start to
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Speaker 1: fall in place? For you, lindsay sure. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of baby steps
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Speaker 1: and milestones along the way. And I was just a
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Speaker 1: self starter in a way that I would say, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm going by the time I five, I want to
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Speaker 1: be in the top market. By the time I'm thirty,
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Speaker 1: you want to be at the network. And I made
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Speaker 1: both of those. One the first goal by the skin
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Speaker 1: of my teeth, because I was just about to turn
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Speaker 1: twenty five, and I made it to Indianapolis, which was
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Speaker 1: the market. Um. But then you know, a few months
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Speaker 1: shy my thirtieth birthday, I made it here to BC
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Speaker 1: News and I've been here now for about fourteen years. Um.
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Speaker 1: And I would say when I was local news, I
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Speaker 1: was able to make a lot of jumps. So I
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Speaker 1: I started out in Syracuse it was market like eighty one,
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Speaker 1: and I went to flit in Michigan it was market
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Speaker 1: sixty four that went to Indianapolis market. And so I
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Speaker 1: was able to make a lot of those um jumps
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Speaker 1: based on you know, my own goals that I had set.
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Speaker 1: And I would say, once I got to the network,
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Speaker 1: it was a little bit harder to set a milestone
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Speaker 1: or set a goal and and then achieve it because
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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the people who make it
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Speaker 1: here are very talented, right and in some cases there
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Speaker 1: are some sharp elbows or in some cases they may
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Speaker 1: have better relationships, or they may just be better positioned
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Speaker 1: for you know, opportunity or for growth. And so I
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Speaker 1: think that that did become a struggle for me kind
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Speaker 1: of finding my way once I got here to the network.
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Speaker 1: But I would say when I was given the opportunity
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Speaker 1: in September two thousand nineteen to be one of the
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Speaker 1: moderators at the Democratic Debate, that was career changing. That
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Speaker 1: that moment um. And then I went on to moderate
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Speaker 1: another debate again with David Neuir and George Stephanopolis in
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Speaker 1: February of the following year, and uh, in both cases,
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Speaker 1: you know, people gave very good feedback and reviews of
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Speaker 1: of my work um sitting there at the as a moderator,
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Speaker 1: and I think then that was the moment where people thought, oh, wow,
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Speaker 1: you know, you could really do this. Now that was
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Speaker 1: many years in right uh, into the game that that
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Speaker 1: I finally kind of got that recognition that that I
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Speaker 1: believed that I was capable of. But you know, it
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Speaker 1: was really kind of waiting for the opportunity. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's really interesting that we all involved in journeys, and
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Speaker 1: we all involved in trying to reach those dreams and
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Speaker 1: then but then then their sacrifice, like you mentioned Indianapolis,
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Speaker 1: Mrs Syracuse. I remember when I left I I needly
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Speaker 1: got married and I moved to New York and my
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Speaker 1: wife was she still in left time. She stayed in Houston,
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Speaker 1: and so so I'm living in New York. And then
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Speaker 1: I moved to l A and I lived there and
10:04
Speaker 1: she still was staying in Houston. So they are sacrifices
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Speaker 1: we all make. In those sacrifices, a lot of people
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Speaker 1: might call them selfish, but they're part of the goals.
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Speaker 1: They're part of the path that you gain. And then
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Speaker 1: you said, Richard, that was instrumental when you did the debates.
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Speaker 1: How first of all, how did they how did the
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Speaker 1: opportunity come to you? And then how did you prepare
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Speaker 1: for that opportunity because you knew it was big? Yes, Um, well,
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Speaker 1: I think that in part it was due to the
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Speaker 1: Democratic National Committee because they had set UH some rules
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Speaker 1: basically so that to prevent the moderator panels from UH
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Speaker 1: not being diverse. They they set some prerequisites basically where
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Speaker 1: you had to have diversity by gender, by race, and
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Speaker 1: so UM. I think because ABC had already decided that
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Speaker 1: they were going to have you know, David and George
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Speaker 1: and at first debate in September that we had for
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Speaker 1: ABC was going to be at an HBCU, and so
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Speaker 1: I think that there was probably a feeling. No one
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Speaker 1: ever told me. I wasn't in the room when the
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Speaker 1: decision was made that that I would be, you know,
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Speaker 1: the third moderator, but I would have to imagine that
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Speaker 1: that both of those played into it. UM. Look, I
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Speaker 1: would say that I probably never prepared more for anything
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Speaker 1: in my life than I had for that first debate
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Speaker 1: in September two thousand nineteen. You know, I I was
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Speaker 1: kept trying to minimize it in my mind so that
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't over hype myself and and and the let
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Speaker 1: the anxiety uh run two wild. Um. But I I
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Speaker 1: it was September and so August leading into it. I
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Speaker 1: remember I had a pre planned vacation and I was
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Speaker 1: on the beach with a big three two three ring binders. UM,
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Speaker 1: just studying and researching and reading and preparing and UM,
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Speaker 1: it was a lot, but the benefit of it is
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Speaker 1: me step back and just talk about news in general,
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Speaker 1: because I'm kind of confused as to what is news
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Speaker 1: and what is commentary, you know, and like what I think,
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Speaker 1: this is my perception, what I think what I see
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Speaker 1: on Fox is commentary or and I want you to
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Speaker 1: educate me too, And it's what I see you do.
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Speaker 1: What I see, you know, the let's the Holts and
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Speaker 1: the David Muirs of the world. You're doing news to me?
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Speaker 1: What I see a lot of times on on CNN
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Speaker 1: and what I see on Fox is a lot of commentary.
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Speaker 1: Am I wrong in saying that? Or it's a blend
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Speaker 1: of news and commentary. You know, I would say, wherever
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Speaker 1: you're hearing a lot of opinions, then that's more editorialized, right,
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Speaker 1: that is more commentary. And so that's I guess up
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Speaker 1: to the viewers to decide, you know, how they want
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Speaker 1: to hear their news as in it do they want
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Speaker 1: to just get the facts, ma'am so to speak, or
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Speaker 1: do you want to hear more of what you already
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Speaker 1: think you know for that to be reinforced by the
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Speaker 1: programming that you watch, um And you know, Fox News
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Speaker 1: for example, has great ratings, and so I think that
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Speaker 1: in a lot of cases people do want to hear
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Speaker 1: and get their ideas seconded and get support for you know,
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Speaker 1: certain arguments, UM that they believe are true, and they
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Speaker 1: may be true. You know that that's again up up
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Speaker 1: to the viewers to to really decide. But you know,
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Speaker 1: my understanding and what I learned in journalism school was
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Speaker 1: always about just presenting what cannot be debated really right.
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Speaker 1: And so certain facts of let's say, a house fire,
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Speaker 1: um cannot be distorted or changed based on your opinion.
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Speaker 1: You know, it was either a three alarm fire or
16:52
Speaker 1: was not. It either went up in flames at twelve
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Speaker 1: o'clock on Brady Avenue or did not. And so there's
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Speaker 1: certain um uh styles. I guess that that some of
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Speaker 1: the networks take, especially the cable news outlet's take, but
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Speaker 1: um but for us, it is very much just what
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Speaker 1: the facts, the facts of whatever it is that we're presented. Now.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned two of your children's books at the top
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Speaker 1: of your intro, and now you have a third one.
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Speaker 1: It came out stayed this way forever, came out in
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Speaker 1: February of this year. How how did that develop? How
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Speaker 1: did you know? I would I gonna just say to
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Speaker 1: your hard charging news that the facts, ma'am, just the facts, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: To a children was a popular bestselling author in the
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Speaker 1: children's genre. How did that come about? So? I again,
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Speaker 1: I have a son who's seven, and when I was
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Speaker 1: reading books to him. Early on, I was thinking glad
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Speaker 1: I could do this, and over time that could became
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Speaker 1: should I should do this? Because I was having a
17:54
Speaker 1: hard time finding books that had characters who look like him,
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Speaker 1: and I felt that that was really important. And while
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Speaker 1: in general terms, you know, the news industry is very
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Speaker 1: different from you know, authoring children's books, at the heart,
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Speaker 1: at my center, I consider myself to be a storyteller,
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Speaker 1: and so um, I felt like it wouldn't be that
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Speaker 1: much of a stretch for me to kind of let
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Speaker 1: my creative juices flow and talk about the good news,
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Speaker 1: really and uplifting because quite often what I do with news,
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Speaker 1: which was also kind of part and parcel to this,
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Speaker 1: because my son would want to see Mommy doing the news,
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Speaker 1: and I felt like, you know, quite often the subject
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Speaker 1: matter what we're talking about is just too much for um,
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Speaker 1: a young person like he is at this at this
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Speaker 1: young age, and so writing books I felt was something
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Speaker 1: that I could just share with him one without any
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Speaker 1: kind of filter or concern about the messaging that was
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Speaker 1: being you know, instilled in him. But I could use
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Speaker 1: it as a tool to inspire him, and so um,
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Speaker 1: initially I really focused on the mirror aspect. There was
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Speaker 1: an essay while ago that talked about how you need mirrors,
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Speaker 1: windows and sliding glass doors in all children's books. The
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Speaker 1: idea of mirrors so kids can see themselves reflected in
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Speaker 1: the pages of the books, windows so they can perhaps
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Speaker 1: pure into a world that's unfamiliar to their own, and
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Speaker 1: if that sliding glass door is to really be effective,
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Speaker 1: it can serve as a way to transport them into
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Speaker 1: an unfamiliar world. So with the first book, it was
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Speaker 1: really a matter of, okay, let me provide more mirrors
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Speaker 1: for my son. But ultimately it really became about and
19:25
Speaker 1: this was before George the first book called Racial Reckoning,
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Speaker 1: was that the was that The One Big Heart or
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Speaker 1: The World Is Awake? Which one was the was the
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Speaker 1: first one. The first one was The World Is Awake.
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Speaker 1: The second one was One Big Heart. And that was
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Speaker 1: where I really talked about the need for or I
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Speaker 1: felt the need for windows in the book so that
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Speaker 1: kids would be able to be exposed to kids who
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Speaker 1: don't look like them, because I think quite often parents
19:54
Speaker 1: look at books that have black and brown characters and
19:56
Speaker 1: they think, oh, they're just for black and brown children,
19:59
Speaker 1: And that couldn't be further from the truth really, because
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Speaker 1: it does no benefit to your child if they're only
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Speaker 1: seeing mirrors all around them, right, and they only see
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Speaker 1: their own reflection in their books and and their toys
20:10
Speaker 1: and in their neighborhood and their church and their place
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Speaker 1: of worship or you know, school or place of worship.
20:15
Speaker 1: And so I felt like parents can start with books
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Speaker 1: and with toys that they're looking to expose themselves or
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Speaker 1: expose their children to more diverse people. And this was
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Speaker 1: something that you heard, especially during the summer and the
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Speaker 1: so called racial reckoning, where parents were saying, you know,
20:30
Speaker 1: what kind of conversations can I have? How can I
20:33
Speaker 1: raise more empathetic children? And I think you can start
20:36
Speaker 1: by giving them a book that has a character who
20:39
Speaker 1: doesn't look like them, right. And my son has such
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Speaker 1: a diverse book collection that he never talks about the
20:45
Speaker 1: race of the characters who are in the books. And
20:48
Speaker 1: I would venture to say that most kids won't. You know,
20:50
Speaker 1: parents will often say like, oh, kids don't see color.
20:53
Speaker 1: Kids do absolutely see do see color. They just don't
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Speaker 1: assign a value to to color. You know. It's adults
20:58
Speaker 1: who do that. Um. But I think that early on,
21:03
Speaker 1: if they're all used to and accustomed to seeing a
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Speaker 1: variety of shades and hair colors and features in their books.
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Speaker 1: They're they're not going to point out it is being
21:13
Speaker 1: so far and unusual because they're used to being exposed
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Speaker 1: to it. So that's now what I kind of shifted from.
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Speaker 1: In addition to focusing on the mirror, I've found additional
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Speaker 1: value in the window as well. Now they stay away Forever.
21:27
Speaker 1: That that's the third book, Stay this way Forever? What
21:30
Speaker 1: is that? What? What? What lineup communication are you trying
21:32
Speaker 1: to get out through that book? Yes? So so stay
21:35
Speaker 1: this Way Forever? Is really any parent I think will
21:38
Speaker 1: relate Who's ever thought, boy, I wish I could just
21:41
Speaker 1: freeze this moment in time and press the pause button
21:44
Speaker 1: and you know, savor these moments that you know are
21:47
Speaker 1: fleeting right that are gonna uh leave the playground of childhood.
21:52
Speaker 1: And one thing that I would say, there you know
21:55
Speaker 1: half the things that you know your kids are gonna outgrow.
21:57
Speaker 1: But I would also venture to say, there are a
21:59
Speaker 1: lot of quality these that you hope that they bring
22:01
Speaker 1: with them into adulthood. So you know, my son's curiosity
22:05
Speaker 1: or his creativity and his joy, you know, all the
22:07
Speaker 1: nights that he says, tells me his plans for the
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Speaker 1: next day, and sometimes I'll say, tomorrow is gonna be
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Speaker 1: the best day ever. And I hope that he keeps
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Speaker 1: that with him into an adulthood where he's excited about
22:17
Speaker 1: the possibilities of of tomorrow. But this was really kind
22:21
Speaker 1: of a way of journaling all the different moments, because
22:24
Speaker 1: you never know when it's going to be the last
22:26
Speaker 1: time and a child, you know, falls asleep in your
22:28
Speaker 1: lap or reaches for your hand to hold, or a
22:31
Speaker 1: pitter pattern of feet before they, you know, jump in
22:33
Speaker 1: bed with you in the morning. And so this was
22:35
Speaker 1: kind of paying tribute to all the different stages of childhood.
22:40
Speaker 1: And the theme that has kind of been consistent through
22:42
Speaker 1: my books is the idea of love. The first book
22:44
Speaker 1: is basically, know that you're loved by God, the second
22:46
Speaker 1: one is love each other, you know, love your neighbor,
22:49
Speaker 1: and this one is no, You're loved by your parents
22:51
Speaker 1: and your grandparents. And I hope that kids will read
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Speaker 1: it and not only know that their loved, but just
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Speaker 1: how much they're cherished and adored and and especially for
22:59
Speaker 1: the cute little little things that they do at these
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Speaker 1: various stages of childhood. My daughter, she's twenty three now,
23:05
Speaker 1: and I always remember, I always tell her my favorite
23:08
Speaker 1: moment one years old when she was just laying on
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Speaker 1: my chest. She hadn't yet had the ability to push off.
23:13
Speaker 1: She just fell aslip so I knew exactly. And listen
23:16
Speaker 1: as you go through that moment, it just takes me
23:19
Speaker 1: back to a place where you know, I'm glad my
23:22
Speaker 1: daughter's grown. But it's always those precious moments of being
23:26
Speaker 1: able to experience when trying to set her up to
23:29
Speaker 1: take pictures in the spine wasn't strong enough and you
23:31
Speaker 1: have your pillows on both sides to get that picture
23:34
Speaker 1: that you want to that they stay with you forever.
23:36
Speaker 1: And but I wanted to before I get out of here,
23:39
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, like, you have a lot of
23:41
Speaker 1: rhymes in your book. Now, I grew up with the
23:43
Speaker 1: function function, what's your junk confunction? So what are these rhymes?
23:47
Speaker 1: And that's that that little flavor there that you that
23:49
Speaker 1: we can go read out loud, your little raps in
23:52
Speaker 1: the book. We're gonna one day function come on, now,
23:56
Speaker 1: come on, let's when we got here, I think these
23:58
Speaker 1: rymes so you're wrapping up a little growing up the
24:02
Speaker 1: books that I read, you know, shel Silverstein and Doctor
24:05
Speaker 1: since they were rhyming books, and so I just wanted
24:11
Speaker 1: I love it my whole thing. I just wanted to
24:13
Speaker 1: give my audience a look at you, your your special talent.
24:16
Speaker 1: Let's let's put that way. And then and how did
24:18
Speaker 1: you get that? I wanted. I'm glad you are willing
24:20
Speaker 1: to share a part of that story how you get there,
24:23
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24:25
Speaker 1: and the end results doesn't really tell the journey. And
24:28
Speaker 1: like I said, I have a journey, and uh, Steven Smith,
24:30
Speaker 1: Josey Harvard, so many people that are like Nick Cannon
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Speaker 1: of you create and pulling out information and very uncomfortable
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24:47
Speaker 1: in those situations. Telling my audience as we close out
24:49
Speaker 1: this interview, what are you trying to accomplish the most
24:52
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24:55
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a very curious person by nature, and
24:59
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25:02
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25:04
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25:07
Speaker 1: what motivates you, what caused you to say that, what
25:10
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25:22
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25:35
Speaker 1: But I love having that kind of interaction and and
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25:45
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25:50
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25:53
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25:57
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