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Democrats & Media DEMAND that NO Illegals be Deported saying "It's Inhumane!" · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There was an interview that took place on sixty minutes.
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Speaker 1: It was an interview about mass deportations that will be
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Speaker 1: coming if Donald Trump is elected to become president. Yet again,
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Speaker 1: now to be clear, this interview was obviously done for
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Speaker 1: different political reasons. For sixty minutes, it was to terrify
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Speaker 1: people that if you voted for Donald Trump, that there
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Speaker 1: would be mass deportations, and that's somehow inhumane.
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Speaker 2: The point they were trying.
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Speaker 1: To say was there's just too many illegal immigrants in
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Speaker 1: this country. And with so many illegal immigrants in this country,
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Speaker 1: you cannot separate them from their other family members.
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Speaker 2: So therefore you must give them all amnesty.
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Speaker 1: And it is evil if you start kicking people out
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Speaker 1: of the country. Now, Donald Trump's been very clear about
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Speaker 1: deportations and he said it would be the largest operation
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Speaker 1: in American history. And the reason why is because we
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Speaker 1: had the largest operation history of this country of illegal
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Speaker 1: immigrants coming in over the last four years because of
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Speaker 1: the open borders policies of the borders are Kamala Harris
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Speaker 1: and Joe Biden.
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Speaker 2: They did this on purpose.
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Speaker 1: I want to also make it clear that I care
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Speaker 1: about American citizens and those that came to this country
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Speaker 1: and did it the legal and correct way the most.
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Speaker 1: And if you're upset that you broke her laws and
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Speaker 1: now there is hardship for you because you broke her laws,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That is the risk that you chose. That
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Speaker 1: is the risk that you took. That was your decision
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Speaker 1: that you made when you broke into this country. I
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Speaker 1: also care about Americans that are suffering now economically. I'm
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Speaker 1: worried about Americans and those that came to this country
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Speaker 1: the legal process, the correct way who are having a
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Speaker 1: hard time paying for rent or finding housing. That is
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Speaker 1: the number one priority for me. It's also, by the way,
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Speaker 1: the number one priority clearly of Donald Trump. And so
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Speaker 1: the media now and the closing arguments that we're witnessing
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Speaker 1: there are argument is, well, you can't vote for Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump because if you do vote for Donald Trump, you
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Speaker 1: are going to rip apart families. By the way, we
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Speaker 1: rip apart families every day in this country, every single
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Speaker 1: day when people go to jail for breaking American laws,
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Speaker 1: and those are American citizens. And I hate it that
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Speaker 1: their parents decided to break laws.
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Speaker 2: I really do. I absolutely hate it.
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Speaker 1: I cannot stand it to know that there are kids
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Speaker 1: that are upset and they're sad when their parents go
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Speaker 1: to jail for committing crimes. But the reality is that
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Speaker 1: is what we do in this country every day. So
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Speaker 1: why should there be a different set of rules for
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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants because American citizens every day, quote, our families
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Speaker 1: are ripped apart when mommy, our daddy goes to jail. Now,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to play for you a very interesting interview.
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Speaker 1: It was done on sixty minutes and it was with
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Speaker 1: the former ICE Director Tom Homan. Know Tom, and Tom
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Speaker 1: has made it very clear this administration will do mass deportations.
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Speaker 2: Who's at the top of the list.
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Speaker 1: Those have been convicted of raping and those have been
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Speaker 1: convicted of murdering, which are in the tens of thousands
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Speaker 1: of people that we allowed in this country under Kamway, Harrison,
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's blessing. There are convicted rapists and convicted murderers
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Speaker 1: who we allowed into this country after we caught them
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Speaker 1: crossing the southern border.
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Speaker 2: Those are the first people that are going to be deported.
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Speaker 1: Do I feel sorry for them if their families are
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Speaker 1: quote ripped apart? I don't, because they are a threat
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Speaker 1: to society and they have killed or raped or killed
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Speaker 1: and raped people and been convicted of it, and then
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Speaker 1: they broke into this country. So if that's who they
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Speaker 1: All right, so take a listen to this interview. This is,
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned a moment ago, former ICE Director Tom
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Speaker 1: Homan talking about what will happen if Donald Trump is
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Speaker 1: elected president, and the media, of course trying to spend
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Speaker 1: this that anybody that's in favor of mass deportations, well
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Speaker 1: you're an evil person.
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Speaker 3: With nine days until election day, former President Trump has
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Speaker 3: stepped up his attacks on the Biden Harris administration's record
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Speaker 3: on illegal immigration and pledged that if elected, he'll conduct
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Speaker 3: the largest deportation in American history. There are more than
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Speaker 3: eleven million undocumented immigrants living in the United States, about
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Speaker 3: three percent of the population. Nearly eighty percent of them
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Speaker 3: have lived in the country for a decade or more.
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Speaker 3: How realistic is this mass deportation campaign promise? What would
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Speaker 3: be the human and financial cost? We took these questions
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Speaker 3: to one of the people Donald Trump has said would
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Speaker 3: join him if he wins a second term, Tom Homan,
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Speaker 3: who led immigration enforcement during the first Trump administration, when
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Speaker 3: thousands of migrant children were separated from their parents at
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Speaker 3: the border.
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Speaker 4: Here a lot of people say, you know, the talk
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Speaker 4: of a mass deportations races, it's threatening to immigrant community.
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Speaker 4: It's not threatened to an immigrant community, it should be
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Speaker 4: threatening to the illegal immigrant community. But on the heels
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Speaker 4: of his historic illegal immigration crisis, that has to be done.
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Speaker 5: How are you doing?
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Speaker 6: At the Republican National Convention this summer, Tom Homan was
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Speaker 6: the proud pitchman of mass deportation.
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Speaker 4: I got a message to demands of illegal areas that
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Speaker 4: Joe Biden's released in our country.
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Speaker 5: You better start packing now.
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Speaker 6: Over three decades, he worked his way up from border
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Speaker 6: patrolmen to Acting Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the
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Speaker 6: agency known as ICE, during the first year and a
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Speaker 6: half of the Trump administration. This election cycle, former President
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Speaker 6: Trump has mentioned mass deportation at nearly every rally.
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Speaker 1: WI would begin the largest deportation operation in the history
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Speaker 1: of our country because we have no choice.
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Speaker 6: What would the largest deportation in American history look like
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Speaker 6: to you.
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Speaker 5: Well, let me tell you what it's not going to be.
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Speaker 4: First, it's not going to be a mass sweep of neighborhoods.
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Speaker 4: It's not going to be building concentration camps. I've read
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Speaker 4: it all. It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 6: But if mass deportation is not going to be, as
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Speaker 6: you said, massive sweeps and concentration camp.
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Speaker 5: It'll be what is it. They'll be targeted arrest.
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Speaker 4: We'll know who we're going to rest, where we're most
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Speaker 4: likely to find them based on numerous investigative processes.
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Speaker 2: Here's our message.
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Speaker 6: Former President Trump's running mate JD. Vance said it would
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Speaker 6: be reasonable to deport a million people a year. Trump's
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Speaker 6: top immigration advisor, Stephen Miller, told a conservative audience that
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Speaker 6: deportees would be removed from the country in a massive
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Speaker 6: military air operation.
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Speaker 7: So you grab illegal immigrants and then you move them
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Speaker 7: to the staging grounds, and that's what the planes are,
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Speaker 7: waiting for federal law enforcement to then move those illegals home.
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Speaker 7: You deputize the National Guard to carry out immigration enforcement.
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Speaker 6: Stephen Miller said that this will involve large scale reads.
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Speaker 4: I don't use the term raids, but you're probably talking
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Speaker 4: about work stile enforcement operations waits. This administration pretty much.
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Speaker 6: Stopped workplace enforcement that's around.
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Speaker 5: Us, and that's gonna be necessary.
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Speaker 2: By the way, I love how they act like this
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Speaker 2: is insane. They're like, that's around up.
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Speaker 1: Yes, when millions of people invade your country and they're
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Speaker 1: here illegally, this is how you get rid of them.
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Speaker 1: You notice how the media is already hedging their bets here.
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Speaker 1: They're like, all right, well, number one, you can't vote
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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, but in case Donald Trump wins, we
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Speaker 1: want you to know you can't do mass deportations. Hold
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Speaker 1: my diet coke and watch, Hold my diet coke and watch,
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Speaker 1: because that's exactly what we're going to do. We're going
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Speaker 1: to do mass deportations, and that's exactly, by the way,
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Speaker 1: what we should do. The reason why they're saying this
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Speaker 1: is I do believe they think there's a really good
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Speaker 1: chance Trump's going to win, and they're trying to set
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Speaker 1: a standard that if you do deportations, we're going to
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Speaker 1: run stories and we're gonna.
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Speaker 2: Make you look like the biggest racist. It gets.
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Speaker 1: This is concentration camps, kids in cages. They're going to
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Speaker 1: bring back all the hits. Plus they're going to bring
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Speaker 1: back every story they get their hands on. That's like
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Speaker 1: Ilian Gonzalez, Remember the kid when they're like, you can't
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Speaker 1: take them back to another country. There's a big fight
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Speaker 1: over who has parental control and custody. You may remember
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Speaker 1: that story. They're going to do that all over again,
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Speaker 1: and that's what Democrats are hoping for. They're like oh,
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Speaker 1: you do this thing, and we're going to tell that story. Look,
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Speaker 1: there are gonna be some some stories that they're going
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Speaker 1: to be able to exploit where it's like, well, the
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Speaker 1: mom gets stay, but the dad can't stay and the
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Speaker 1: kids and what do you do.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: When you break the law, there are consequences for your family.
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Speaker 1: And that happens every single day in the United States
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Speaker 1: of America with American citizens when family members are ripped
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Speaker 1: apart and kids are whipped, ripped apart from their parents
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Speaker 1: because their parents commit crimes.
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Speaker 2: So I am not adding a standard here.
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Speaker 1: I'm not changing the standard that we hold our own
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Speaker 1: citizens to when they commit crimes. Go to any federal
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Speaker 1: court house every day and watch people that are sentenced
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Speaker 1: and go to jail and watch them be ripped from
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Speaker 1: their families.
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Speaker 2: Okay, like we do this, this is.
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Speaker 1: Normal, And they're going to try to act like it's inhumane.
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Speaker 1: They're going to try to act like in it's not
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Speaker 1: normal to have families that are quote ripped apart. Our
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Speaker 1: justice system, our legal system does it every damn day
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Speaker 1: to American citizens for decades, okay, for twenty years, for
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Speaker 1: thirty years, for life in prison, and so what they're
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Speaker 1: saying now as well. If any one child is separated
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Speaker 1: from their parent who broke the law for even just today,
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Speaker 1: you're a racist, you're a big you can't do this,
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Speaker 1: You're not allowed to do it.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. We do it to our own citizens.
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Speaker 1: We should be doing it to illegal immigrants as well.
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Speaker 1: I also think it's time for us to take the
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Speaker 1: band aid off and we do it right away, and
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Speaker 1: we go after the worst among them. We go after
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Speaker 1: those who have been convicted of rape, those have been
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Speaker 1: convicted of murder, those have been charged with heinous crimes,
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Speaker 1: and we get them out of this country. And the
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Speaker 1: only way that you can do what is being described
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Speaker 1: here is to do it right away. We should not wait.
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Speaker 1: We should not do this over years. We should do
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Speaker 1: it over months. And you won't know why. We should
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Speaker 1: do it quickly because it also will allow for self deportations.
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Speaker 1: If you see people that are being deported consistently, and
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Speaker 1: you are an illegal immigrant and you are watching it
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Speaker 1: take place in and around you, in your society, and
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Speaker 1: a legal society that's been set up of illegal immigrants
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Speaker 1: and underground workers, and the lists go on and on,
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Speaker 1: there is a very good chance that you may say, hey,
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Speaker 1: before that happens to me and my family, we're going
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Speaker 1: to self deport together, and that's what should happen. But
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Speaker 1: when you listen to the media talking in this interview
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Speaker 1: with a former ICE director, they're like, in shock.
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Speaker 2: Well you can't, you can't separate families.
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Speaker 1: My response would be like, we do it every damn
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Speaker 1: day in our court system, and in fact I would
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Speaker 1: I would actually use it as a campaign opportunity to
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Speaker 1: say Kama Harris did this her entire career as a prosecutor.
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Speaker 1: She did this to families every single day in court.
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Speaker 1: She separated parents from their kids every day in court
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Speaker 1: when she was a prosecutor, when she put people in jail,
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Speaker 1: she separated families. So why are you not asking her
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Speaker 1: about that? If this is the new standard of quote
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Speaker 1: right and wrong, which is well, if any family is
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Speaker 1: separated from one another, then it's a bad decision.
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Speaker 2: It's not by the way work.
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Speaker 4: So enforcement offer is just not about people who's working
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Speaker 4: legally in the country and companies that harm that's going
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Speaker 4: to undercut their competition, that has you as citizen employees.
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Speaker 4: I said, where we find a lot of trafficking case
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Speaker 4: and women and children who are forced in a forced
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Speaker 4: labor to pay off for smuggling fees.
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Speaker 6: A study by the American Immigration Council found that mass
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Speaker 6: deportation could result in the removal of millions of construction, hospitality,
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Speaker 6: and agriculture workers, reducing the GDP by one point seven
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Speaker 6: trillion dollars. Can you just limit it to criminals and
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Speaker 6: national security threat though?
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Speaker 4: If I've in charge of this, my priorities are public
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Speaker 4: safety threats and nas security threats.
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Speaker 6: First first implies others follow though, right, absolutely, So game
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Speaker 6: that out for me. What's the scenario.
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Speaker 4: It's not okay to enter a country legal, which is
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Speaker 4: a crime. That's what drives illegal immigration when there's no consequences.
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Speaker 4: The Biden Harris ministration has proven this. You can get
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Speaker 4: to the border, journ yourself, sin get released when in
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Speaker 4: twenty four hours.
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Speaker 6: So you are carrying out a targeted enforcement operation. Grandma's
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Speaker 6: in the house, she's undocumented. She get arrested too.
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Speaker 4: It depends which the judgey side we're going to remove people.
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Speaker 4: A judge is already deported.
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Speaker 6: Homan's suggestion that Grandma might face arrest would mark a
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Speaker 6: major shift in policy under President Biden. Ice is mostly
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Speaker 6: targeting those deemed national security or public safety threats and
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Speaker 6: people who just crossed the border illegally. The majority of
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Speaker 6: the four million deportations carried out by the Biden administration
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Speaker 6: have occurred at the southern border, where an unprecedented influx
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Speaker 6: of migrants created scenes of chaos, a humanitarian crisis and
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Speaker 6: one of Vice President Harris's biggest political vulnerabilities. Homan says,
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Speaker 6: mass deportation is the solution. How many people would be deported?
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Speaker 5: You can't ansk that question.
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Speaker 7: Why not?
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Speaker 5: How many officers do I have?
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Speaker 6: Is there a written plan on this? If there's no memo,
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Speaker 6: If there's no plan, is this fully baked? We've done
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Speaker 6: to be but not a deportation of this scale.
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Speaker 5: ICE is very good at these operations. This is what
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Speaker 5: they do.
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Speaker 6: To see what they do, we went to Silver Spring, Maryland,
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Speaker 6: a suburb of Washington, d c. Or earlier this month.
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Speaker 6: ICE agents gathered in a parking lot before dawn. It's
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Speaker 6: what ICE does every day and has been doing for
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Speaker 6: many years.
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Speaker 2: By the way, I love how they how they do
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Speaker 2: this in sixpensive. It's what they do every day. They
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Speaker 2: have been for years.
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Speaker 1: Actually, no, it's not what they do every day under
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Speaker 1: the Biden administration. Under the Biden administration, they tell them
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Speaker 1: to release, release, release, and how many they released fifteen
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Speaker 1: to twenty million, even if we use sixty minutes numbers,
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Speaker 1: so I, oh, it's only eleven eleven million plus. So
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Speaker 1: when they act like we're being tough on illegal immigrants,
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Speaker 1: if that was true, there wouldn't be eleven more, eleven million,
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Speaker 1: twelve million, fifteen million, twenty million illegal immigrants right now
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Speaker 1: in the United States of America. And this way that
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Speaker 1: they're they're framing this And I know many of you
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Speaker 1: don't watch sixty minutes. That's why I'm playing this for
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Speaker 1: you because I want you to understand how to fight back.
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Speaker 1: It is the logic that we have to use as
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Speaker 1: we are fighting back because when they do the Elien
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Speaker 1: Gonzalees saying, oh, you're ripping families apart, and they show
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Speaker 1: a picture of a kid crying, their kids that are
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Speaker 1: crying every day in court when their mom or dad
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Speaker 1: are taking to jail every day. They're American citizens every
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Speaker 1: day that are separated from their parents every single day,
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Speaker 1: and no one at sixteen minutes is doing stories about
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Speaker 1: how inhumane it is that every single day there are
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Speaker 1: illegal that there are American citizens that are separated from
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Speaker 1: their children. No one talks about that because we know
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Speaker 1: that it's normal, and they're going to try to act
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Speaker 1: like if it's an illegal immigrant, it's abnormal, and that
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Speaker 1: you can't do it, when in reality, yes you can.
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Speaker 1: You can do it, and if we do it to
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Speaker 1: our own citizens, then we should do it to illegal immigrants.
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Speaker 1: So they're like, all right, we're shuiting up here in
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Speaker 1: the park lots and ICE does every day. They're trying
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Speaker 1: to make it seem like like ICES is doing their
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Speaker 1: job and that everything's fine and there's no reason for
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Speaker 1: mass deportations. You can't even get your head around how
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Speaker 1: many illegals are in this country.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 1: You notice the beginning of this, she said, it's what
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Speaker 1: three percent of the population. There's other studies that say
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Speaker 1: it's up to six percent of the population. You have
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Speaker 1: six percent of the people among us right now that
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Speaker 1: are in this country illegally.
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Speaker 5: Sorry, good morning everyone.
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Speaker 6: They're tasked this morning locate and arrest undocumented immigrants with
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Speaker 6: criminal histories including assault, robbery, drug and gun convictions.
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Speaker 1: By the way, it's sad that these ICE agents have
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Speaker 1: to go out there and risk their lives to get
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Speaker 1: rid of illegal immigrants who have committed heinous crimes. Now
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Speaker 1: knowing what we know, that this administration knowingly let into
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Speaker 1: the country, into the United States of America, people that
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Speaker 1: were convicted of heinous sex crimes and murder, and they're
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Speaker 1: walking among us by the thousand, okay, by the tens
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Speaker 1: of thousands combined. And these ICE agents are having to
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Speaker 1: risk their lives when we already caught them at the
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Speaker 1: border and they already should have been kicked out of
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Speaker 1: this country. Never forget that these guys that are going
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Speaker 1: out there, and these guys that are risking their lives,
19:16
Speaker 1: these guys that are risking their lives are going out
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Speaker 1: to get people that should have never been allowed in.
19:22
Speaker 1: We knew they were, we knew who they were, we
19:24
Speaker 1: knew they were convicted, and they said, this administration said,
19:29
Speaker 1: let them in. Release them into that rapists, release that
19:32
Speaker 1: child molester, release that murder into America, and we'll figure
19:37
Speaker 1: it out later.
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Speaker 2: That's what this administration did.
19:40
Speaker 1: And now we put these guys' lives on the line,
19:42
Speaker 1: forcing them to go out there and try to find
19:45
Speaker 1: these heinous criminals.
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Speaker 2: Because the first time when we had them, they let
19:49
Speaker 2: them go.
19:52
Speaker 1: You cannot separate families from one another because that is inhumane.
19:56
Speaker 1: And you must allow every legal immigrant that's in this
19:58
Speaker 1: country to stay in this country. Now, why are they
20:02
Speaker 1: saying that, Because they don't believe any of these people
20:06
Speaker 1: should have to leave this country, and they believe they
20:09
Speaker 1: should all be given American citizenship.
20:11
Speaker 2: And they believe that all of these people that.
20:13
Speaker 1: Are in the United States of America should be able
20:17
Speaker 1: to vote right away for the hardcore liberal Democratic candidates.
20:21
Speaker 1: That is what this really is all about. It's always
20:24
Speaker 1: been about that. I keep saying it over and over
20:27
Speaker 1: again because it's true. It's always been about that. This
20:31
Speaker 1: is about importing voters. This is about importing voters because
20:37
Speaker 1: they need desperately, the Democratic Party to bring a new
20:40
Speaker 1: voters to replace many voters who have, by the way,
20:43
Speaker 1: become independently smart. The Democratic vote is an all time
20:49
Speaker 1: low guaranteed for Kamala Harris. She only has seventy percent
20:53
Speaker 1: plus of the Democratic vote that is saying that they
20:56
Speaker 1: will vote for her. That was at ninety I think
20:59
Speaker 1: it was six percent or ninety seven percent when Barack
21:03
Speaker 1: Obama ran for president. It was in the mid nineties
21:05
Speaker 1: when Joe Biden ran. It is now dropped down into
21:08
Speaker 1: the seventies with Kamala Harris.
21:11
Speaker 2: So they're worried.
21:12
Speaker 1: They've lost many of the democratic are in the African
21:15
Speaker 1: American community, and so they're like, all right, well, we
21:18
Speaker 1: just got to have a replacement opportunity. What do we
21:21
Speaker 1: do to replace them? Oh, it's easy, it's really simple,
21:25
Speaker 1: not a problem. How do we replace them, No problem,
21:29
Speaker 1: We'll just import them. And now that we want to
21:32
Speaker 1: deport them, sixty minutes, Like, you can't do that, that's racist,
21:36
Speaker 1: you can't do it. Keep listening to this absurd interview.
21:40
Speaker 1: In sixty minutes.
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Speaker 2: This morning, our target is going to be.
21:43
Speaker 6: Identified by ICE as a threat to public safety.
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Speaker 8: Hey, let's roll.
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Speaker 6: Matt Elliston, director of ICE's Baltimore Field office, told us
21:52
Speaker 6: the goal was to catch the first target by surprise.
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Speaker 2: You've been watching them, you know as r too.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, we know his routine. We've been watching him for
22:02
Speaker 8: a couple of days. Wait till he gets about in
22:04
Speaker 8: front of my vehicle.
22:05
Speaker 6: Sure enough, a white van soon appeared to pick him up,
22:09
Speaker 6: but they didn't get very far.
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Speaker 5: Yea, how are you doing?
22:13
Speaker 2: You got in your hand? Would you put down.
22:15
Speaker 6: The man they arrested was a twenty four year old
22:18
Speaker 6: Guatemalan with an assault conviction who had been ordered deported
22:21
Speaker 6: by a judge five years ago. The ICE agents discovered
22:26
Speaker 6: that the driver of the van was also in the
22:28
Speaker 6: country illegally. They told us he'd been deported once before.
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Speaker 8: It has no criminal record. That he was picking up
22:35
Speaker 8: his employees to go to work. It doesn't make sense
22:38
Speaker 8: to waste a attention bed on someone like that when
22:40
Speaker 8: we have other felons to go out and get Today.
22:43
Speaker 9: A lot of folks might hear you and say, like,
22:45
Speaker 9: hold on, you've got an undocumented immigrant who comes face
22:48
Speaker 9: to face with ICE, who's responsible for deporting folks from
22:51
Speaker 9: this country, and you let him go.
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Speaker 8: We utilize immigration lot to enhance public safety. It's not
22:57
Speaker 8: to just aimlessly arrest anyone would come out cross right.
23:00
Speaker 8: We do targeted enforcement in ICE.
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Speaker 1: So in other words, you got to be a really
23:04
Speaker 1: bad dude. You notice how the wheels just came off
23:07
Speaker 1: that story real fast. Oh wait, you're just a guy
23:09
Speaker 1: that broke in. You're just an illegal immigrant. Oh okay, Well,
23:12
Speaker 1: we don't have time to deal with you. Why because
23:14
Speaker 1: there's another fifteen million of you, and this administration has
23:19
Speaker 1: told us not to deport you. This administration is said
23:22
Speaker 1: to let you stay. And that ICE director there that
23:26
Speaker 1: you just heard from Baltimore, the field office, he's making
23:29
Speaker 1: it well known. Unless you are murderer, unless you're a rapist,
23:34
Speaker 1: we have no intention of getting rid of you. Why
23:37
Speaker 1: do you think some of illegal immigrants are coming to
23:38
Speaker 1: this country. You don't think that illegal immigrant that they
23:41
Speaker 1: just caught and then just let walk away is going
23:43
Speaker 1: to tell all of his friends to come to America.
23:45
Speaker 1: Like I got raided the other morning and they let
23:48
Speaker 1: me go. There was a raid on my location. They
23:52
Speaker 1: were watching me, and I'm there like, you know, picking
23:57
Speaker 1: up a buddy, and I didn't have a bad record. Quote,
23:59
Speaker 1: So come on over, like, they will not arrest you
24:02
Speaker 1: here if they catch you for just being.
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Speaker 2: A legal immigrant that's in the United States of America.
24:07
Speaker 2: Didn't matter.
24:07
Speaker 1: If you're taking a job from somebody else, It doesn't matter.
24:10
Speaker 1: If you're making the home affordability be out of control
24:14
Speaker 1: where people cannot afford it, None of that matters. Just
24:17
Speaker 1: come on over and don't worry about being deported. They're
24:20
Speaker 1: not deporting anybody. They caught me with another violent individual
24:23
Speaker 1: with me, and they still didn't deport me as I'm
24:25
Speaker 1: picking him up, And you just heard the Field office
24:29
Speaker 1: director saying, yes, this is in fact exactly what we do.
24:34
Speaker 1: We do not take these types of criminals.
24:38
Speaker 2: We only find the worst of the worst of the
24:41
Speaker 2: worst of the worst.
24:42
Speaker 1: That we let in and then we might deport them.
24:46
Speaker 1: That's what we do do, right, Like, that's it, That's
24:50
Speaker 1: what we do.
24:51
Speaker 2: Keep listening. It gets even better.
24:56
Speaker 6: It took a team of more than a dozen officers
24:58
Speaker 6: seven hours to ere six people, and that doesn't include
25:02
Speaker 6: the many hours spent searching for them. So how would
25:08
Speaker 6: it even be possible then, for ICE to arrest a
25:12
Speaker 6: million people in this country if that mass deportation plan
25:16
Speaker 6: were to take effect.
25:17
Speaker 8: I could say here in Maryland, we would never be
25:19
Speaker 8: able to resource or find find that amount of detention,
25:22
Speaker 8: which would be our biggest challenge, right and just the
25:25
Speaker 8: amount of money that that would cost in order to
25:27
Speaker 8: detain everybody, you know, it would be you know, at
25:30
Speaker 8: the Department of Defense level of financing.
25:33
Speaker 1: So so get let's be very clear now about what
25:35
Speaker 1: this report's telling you. They're telling you, Hey, they spent
25:38
Speaker 1: all day long and they only found six bad guys,
25:42
Speaker 1: six bad guys. So it is going to be impossible
25:46
Speaker 1: for anybody else to do this, And and anybody that's
25:48
Speaker 1: here just accept them being here, and just just is
25:53
Speaker 1: accept the fact that they're in this country illegally, and
25:57
Speaker 1: just know that there's no reason for you to ever imagine,
26:00
Speaker 1: under any circumstances that we could actually do real deportations
26:02
Speaker 1: in this country.
26:03
Speaker 2: It's never going to happen. That's what they just told you.
26:07
Speaker 1: By the way, I can round up six illegal immigrants
26:10
Speaker 1: in about ten minutes, within five minutes of my house.
26:14
Speaker 2: It's not hard.
26:16
Speaker 1: Because illegal immigrants live together, they hang out together, they
26:19
Speaker 1: work together, they go to they do life together.
26:22
Speaker 2: It's not hard.
26:24
Speaker 1: I could deport if you said to me, Ben, I'm
26:27
Speaker 1: going to give you a team and I want you
26:29
Speaker 1: to round up one thousand illegal immigrants. I could probably
26:32
Speaker 1: do it in a half a day. Now, the processing
26:35
Speaker 1: part would be on somebody else. But if you said,
26:36
Speaker 1: just find me a thousand legal immigrants, I could pull
26:38
Speaker 1: that off.
26:39
Speaker 2: It would not be hard.
26:40
Speaker 1: And that is the difference between the story they're telling you.
26:43
Speaker 1: On sixty minutes, they're saying, oh, well, it took them
26:45
Speaker 1: all day to find six people, because their list was
26:47
Speaker 1: six individuals with actual names that they were directly targeting
26:51
Speaker 1: because they said that they are a threat to our society. Again,
26:56
Speaker 1: what we're talking about is people that are in this
26:59
Speaker 1: country illegally being deported because they're in this country illegally.
27:05
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about.
27:08
Speaker 1: What I just described was trying to find six needles
27:12
Speaker 1: in a hay stack of guys that are hardcore convict
27:14
Speaker 1: you know, like real threats to society, criminals, rapists, and
27:20
Speaker 1: murderers that they were trying to find. You understand the
27:23
Speaker 1: difference here, we're talking about two very different things. We're
27:26
Speaker 1: saying if you're here in this country illegally, that you
27:28
Speaker 1: shouldn't be able to stay in this country.
27:29
Speaker 2: If you're here illegally.
27:31
Speaker 1: That is very different from the conversation that you just
27:33
Speaker 1: heard there, which was, look, we're going for the worst
27:35
Speaker 1: of them, and we're trying to find specific people. If
27:38
Speaker 1: you're trying to round up a million or two or three,
27:41
Speaker 1: or four, or five, or six or seven or eight
27:43
Speaker 1: or nine or ten or eleven million illegal immigrants in
27:46
Speaker 1: general who are just here bring the rules, that's a
27:48
Speaker 1: lot easier than finding ones.
27:50
Speaker 2: That are convicted of murdering people.
27:52
Speaker 1: So when sixty minutes tells you this is impossible to do,
27:57
Speaker 1: they're also telling you a story which is not the
28:00
Speaker 1: reality of the makeup of legal immigrants in this country.
28:03
Speaker 1: By the way, the majority of legal immigrants are not
28:04
Speaker 1: convicted murderers, not rapists. Right, it's probably less than one
28:08
Speaker 1: percent of one percent. We're not talking about that. What
28:11
Speaker 1: we're talking about is, did you come into this country illegally?
28:14
Speaker 1: You did, Okay, great, then you need to go home
28:17
Speaker 1: to your host country.
28:18
Speaker 2: And I'm really sorry if this messages.
28:20
Speaker 1: Your life up, but you knew you were taking the
28:22
Speaker 1: risk when you came in to this country and broke
28:24
Speaker 1: into the United States of America. That is a very
28:28
Speaker 1: different conversation than what they're trying to give you.
28:30
Speaker 2: This picture they're painting on.
28:32
Speaker 1: Sixty minutes, sixteen minutes is trying to tell you a
28:35
Speaker 1: story that they're saying impossible. This will never happen. This
28:39
Speaker 1: is the most unrealistic thing ever. You cannot do this
28:44
Speaker 1: because it's just too hard to find these individuals if
28:47
Speaker 1: they're murders and rapists. Yeah, it does take a lot
28:49
Speaker 1: more time to find a specific person, go to a
28:52
Speaker 1: Loew's or home depot, parking lot anywhere in Texas and
28:54
Speaker 1: you can find one hundred, one hundred and fifty illegal
28:56
Speaker 1: immigrants hanging out. You want to send a message real
28:59
Speaker 1: fast that hey, where things are changing. Go into that
29:02
Speaker 1: parking lot, run them all up. That's what I would
29:05
Speaker 1: refer to as a mass deportation moment, and guess what happens.
29:09
Speaker 1: Word travels fast. Hey man, it's not what it used
29:11
Speaker 1: to be here. It's time to go home. The number
29:14
Speaker 1: of people that will self deport if this is what
29:17
Speaker 1: they think is going to happen to them, will be massive.
29:21
Speaker 1: So when you hear these interviews and when you see
29:23
Speaker 1: these conversations, look for the propaganda, because the propaganda is massive.
29:28
Speaker 2: It is absolutely massive. Don't forget.
29:33
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29:36
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