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Rushion Interviews Celebrity Hair Stylist Johnny Wright and Legendary Public Relations Expert Ramon Hervey · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: long time Johnny Wright. He's successful entrepreneurs, celebrity hair staalers
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Speaker 1: one and Only Johnny Wright. Hey Johnny, how are you? Oh?
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Speaker 1: You know I cannot. I can't. You know, people didn't
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Speaker 1: need to know of our relationship. Man. We over a decade,
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Speaker 1: you know, when I was managing Steve Harvey. You always
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Speaker 1: was so gracious to come and do the Neighborhood Awards
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Speaker 1: with us, and the Hood Awards in Vegas and Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: But all along, you know, the fun part of our
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Speaker 1: relationship was always getting interviews with you. One first lady
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Speaker 1: was still in office, because you was always in these
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Speaker 1: top secret areas since Rashaan, I can't talk to you
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Speaker 1: now I'm here. You know, folk service is bad. So
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Speaker 1: tell us about that whole relationship, man, and how I
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Speaker 1: got started and uh and basically which so that's that's
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Speaker 1: just one part of your fame. But it's a tremendous
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Speaker 1: story to tell. I mean, it was eight years I was.
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Speaker 1: I was with there for the whole, you know, two
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Speaker 1: both terms of though when it was in the White House.
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Speaker 1: I m met her in two thousand and seven, when
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Speaker 1: they like two weeks after they announced for that they're
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Speaker 1: run for presidency on Oprah. Rmfrey and I worked with her.
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Speaker 1: We hit it off, and then I moved to La
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Speaker 1: not thinking anything of it, and then I got a
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Speaker 1: call from her staff asking me to do her while
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Speaker 1: she was in LA. But like the Degenerates and Jay
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Speaker 1: Leno and conferences and fundraisers and things like that, so
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Speaker 1: we was able to start, you know, developing a relationship.
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Speaker 1: And then shortie after a day, you know, the election happened.
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Speaker 1: They won, and maybe about a month or two after
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Speaker 1: day won, I got asked to come to her for
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Speaker 1: the cover of Bowl, which was taking place in Washington, DC.
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Speaker 1: This is like a few days before inauguration. And I
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Speaker 1: went down and I did her and asked that shoot,
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Speaker 1: before I even started working on her, she asked me
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Speaker 1: what I'd be willing to move to DC to work
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Speaker 1: with her, And I immediately said, yeah, the rest of history. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was there, but let's talk about let's talk about
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Speaker 1: that because you know, you know, you're in LA because
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Speaker 1: you just moved to LA for your own personal reasons.
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Speaker 1: You know, this is your dream. Hey man, I made
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Speaker 1: just count there and for some reason, Faith had it
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Speaker 1: she needed you in LA. Yeah. Yeah, So she came
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Speaker 1: to LA pretty often. I think this is right when
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Speaker 1: the you know, the campaign was really hyping up and
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Speaker 1: they were you know, traveling around the country a lot.
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Speaker 1: They came to La quite often, like again for like
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Speaker 1: fundraisers and conferences and things like that, and I was
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Speaker 1: able to start That's when we was really developing a relationship.
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Speaker 1: But I was working with more often. Then still didn't
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Speaker 1: think that I was going to be invited to work
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Speaker 1: with her in the White House throughout the campaign, you know,
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Speaker 1: like awesome, um, And just to be quite honest, I
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Speaker 1: wasn't too optimistic at the time. I didn't think they
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Speaker 1: were going to make it into the White House week
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Speaker 1: I had never seen anyone. You just thought it to
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Speaker 1: be It's just great to see this happening. They're getting
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Speaker 1: this far, you know. But I didn't think it was
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Speaker 1: gonna be happening. But then once they happened, I got
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Speaker 1: that call to do it, but to cover a ball,
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Speaker 1: and I still didn't think I was gonna be work
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Speaker 1: with her. To me, I just thought, you know, she's
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Speaker 1: throwing me a bone because I worked with her throughout
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Speaker 1: the campaign. So get to cover a ball, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: this is great for my portfolio. I mean say that
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Speaker 1: I can cover a ball. And then um, slowly, you know,
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Speaker 1: as I arrived, she told me that. And then now
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Speaker 1: I'm three ball covers in and a glamor and style.
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Speaker 1: You know, laden I love for Johnny tells the story.
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Speaker 1: I always ask him because you know, because he leaves
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Speaker 1: so many stories out looks so many little nuggets out
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Speaker 1: how they are actually mad and all the way back
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Speaker 1: the first time. But but I always want to just
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Speaker 1: remind him of his greatness. My personality is by relationship,
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Speaker 1: is by you know, treating everybody the same, all all
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Speaker 1: those all that comes out of the story whenever he
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Speaker 1: repeats it, you know, he didn't expect her to be
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Speaker 1: nobody or that then the customer that was in front
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Speaker 1: of him, and he gives every customer, you know, top billing,
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Speaker 1: first class billing. And when you treat but consistently, then
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Speaker 1: consistent things come back that you don't expect. And when
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Speaker 1: you got the opportunity to just say, hey, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be moved to DC, was that what went do
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Speaker 1: your mind? Because you're in LA you know, there was
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Speaker 1: it like some hesitation, what I'm gonna do? Some confusion? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but you know because so I left when I left Chicago,
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Speaker 1: I left Chicago in August of two thousand and um seven, right,
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Speaker 1: and I left three three, three hundred client. I had
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Speaker 1: a very successful salon career in Chicago. Had all three
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Speaker 1: hundred clients. I worked three days a week, I had
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Speaker 1: four assistants. I took thirty hands a day. It was crazy,
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Speaker 1: but I did a lot of high profile professionals, entrepreneur
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Speaker 1: women and all those type of things, and so I
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Speaker 1: I was I left Chicago with a pretty healthy bank account,
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Speaker 1: so it was perfect, Like I was able to buy
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Speaker 1: a furniture. But now I'm bebing on my plate that stuff.
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Speaker 1: But when I moved to La I started out at
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Speaker 1: a new It was a new salon who was preside
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Speaker 1: for Ki, who was the number one slot in the country.
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Speaker 1: But he had just opened up a new salon on
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Speaker 1: Merroll's place and he had a salon and Beverly Hills.
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Speaker 1: So this salon was just brand news that he had
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Speaker 1: to build a clientele. So the money was a little shy,
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Speaker 1: just so better description. So it gave us a salary
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Speaker 1: and was building. But it wasn't what I was used to.
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Speaker 1: But I was still very happy having to be in
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Speaker 1: La building my celebrity client own world and everything. And
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Speaker 1: then by the time the election half, it was like
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Speaker 1: the end of two thousand and eight, you know, I
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Speaker 1: didn't have that type of money to just pack up
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Speaker 1: and move across the country. So yeah, when she said
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Speaker 1: it to me, of course I initially said yes because
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Speaker 1: I believe in the power of yes. That's kind of
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Speaker 1: what I talked about as my career has has been
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Speaker 1: guided through the power of yes. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: I was like, how the hell am I going to
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Speaker 1: do this? And I had to figure it out, and
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Speaker 1: luckily enough, had a very close client of mine. Her
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Speaker 1: name is Susan Williams, and she's a sculptress and her
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Speaker 1: husband is a stomach doctor a little rock, Arkansas, and
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Speaker 1: her daughter lived in LA and we were very close,
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Speaker 1: and her daughter told her that I got the job,
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Speaker 1: and she called me and she was like, Hey, if
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Speaker 1: you need anything, let me know. I'm so proud of you.
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. This is an amazing thing
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Speaker 1: for you and your quinn. You know, of course, I
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Speaker 1: never ever act any not even my parents, for money,
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Speaker 1: because I'd been doing hair since i was eleven years old,
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Speaker 1: so you know, hairstyles are not really shy on cash typically,
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Speaker 1: so I never I never even thought about that. So
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Speaker 1: she just said, hey, if you needed to, guy said no,
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Speaker 1: I don't need anything to say no. She said, listen, Johnny,
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Speaker 1: if you need anything, I continue some money. I know
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Speaker 1: it's a hard move, you know, you just moved to
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Speaker 1: LA And I was like, she's like, just do this.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my account and call you and get
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Speaker 1: your bank information and then I'll put a little money
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Speaker 1: in your account. And I said okay. So if we
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Speaker 1: got the pall account called me. I gave her my
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Speaker 1: make information and she was like, okay. You know she
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Speaker 1: told me when I talked to I put like, you know,
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Speaker 1: three thousand dollars to your account. I said, okay, cool.
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Speaker 1: I looked up the next day she had put ten
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars in my account. She sent me a note
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Speaker 1: that next morning said do not worry about family back.
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Speaker 1: I want to make sure you're you're successfully getting there.
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Speaker 1: And literally I spent every bit of that money moving
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Speaker 1: across the country to um A DC and she was
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Speaker 1: literally my my angel. And this guys to gat me
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Speaker 1: to DC because she was your she was your go
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Speaker 1: fund me account. Yeah. He was like, you know, I've
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Speaker 1: been learning this whole understanding, but I believe that I'm
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Speaker 1: a master manifesto and I've been learning this whole understanding
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Speaker 1: of what manifestation really is, and it's really just trust
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Speaker 1: and what I would say when I think back to
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Speaker 1: back in that time, although I didn't know exactly how
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Speaker 1: I was going to get to DC and figure all
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Speaker 1: that out and move about the struction and found a
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Speaker 1: new place with the down ban down, get my car there,
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Speaker 1: all this stuff, I trusted that I would get there right.
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Speaker 1: And that trust brought Susan to me and also put
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Speaker 1: that money in my account and got me too. So
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Speaker 1: all these things I understood was the trust in me
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Speaker 1: that got me to where I needed to be. Great.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Johnny Wright, the one of the most successful
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Speaker 1: entrepreneurial celebrity hairstylist over the last thirty years and just
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Speaker 1: an incredible individual as well as a gifted stylist. His
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Speaker 1: book it's called Natural and Curly Hair for Dummies. You know,
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Speaker 1: we know the dummy books. You know, the yellow yellow
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Speaker 1: with the little black ink on the cover and all
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Speaker 1: that and oh okay, George looks star. I love that
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Speaker 1: natural blue and yellow and black. That's the dummies I'm
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Speaker 1: familiar with. How did this relationship come about? So? Um,
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Speaker 1: this is uh something that was daring us through my agent.
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Speaker 1: Her name is Nikita Adam. She's not an agent anymore. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: she moved on to head of a production company out
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Speaker 1: in LA but choose my agent at the time, and
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Speaker 1: they reached out to her and said, hey, we would
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Speaker 1: be we would like to see if Johnny will be
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Speaker 1: interested in offering this title. And at the time it
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Speaker 1: was called Natural Hair for Dummies. And the reason why
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Speaker 1: we call it Natural and Curly Hair for Dummies because
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Speaker 1: I wanted to include the Latino dad's community because they
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily call their hair natural. What they call it curly,
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Speaker 1: So I wanted to make sure that they sorry about that.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that they understood that this
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Speaker 1: book was for them them as well. So basically she
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Speaker 1: called me, they actually do a table of contents and
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Speaker 1: then do a book proposal. As that was done, it
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Speaker 1: was approved and we were onto writing, and I didn't
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that because they tell you that you're
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Speaker 1: gonna you know, you do the table of contents, you
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Speaker 1: do the book proposal, and then repair you with a
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Speaker 1: dummy fire that quote plays the role as a ghostwriter.
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Speaker 1: So my my agent was like, oh, this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be a light list for you, you know you kill
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Speaker 1: and you know you just the interview style, and I
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Speaker 1: was like, okay, great, that wasn't the case. I did
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Speaker 1: not have a ghostwriter. I literally wrote every single word
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Speaker 1: in this book. And how it works is you have
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Speaker 1: to write the book and the dummy fire puts it
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Speaker 1: in a dummy format, right, make it a dummy thing.
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Speaker 1: So that was really challenging for me because I said
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Speaker 1: yes to this, I signed the contract and by this
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Speaker 1: time I had the advanced and I was like, I'm
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Speaker 1: all in. That was like, but I never wrote anything
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Speaker 1: in my life. I didn't go to college. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I went to beauty school, but I didn't go to
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Speaker 1: college and make write essays and things like that. So
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Speaker 1: I didn't know how to write, at least I didn't
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Speaker 1: think I did. But it was a challenge that I
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Speaker 1: absolutely needed and I did it. It took me a
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Speaker 1: year pretty much today to write it. I got I
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Speaker 1: started writing in August. I finished this year in August,
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Speaker 1: and the book was released November ten. Awesome, Let's let's
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Speaker 1: slow down, because you said the word dummy fire. This
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Speaker 1: is an individual because let's let's tell everybody who's not
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Speaker 1: familiar with the Dummy Series, which tied to anything from
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Speaker 1: mechanics to baking to uh any do it yourself type
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Speaker 1: of principles. Also the books in college Cliff notes all
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Speaker 1: these things which tied to the incredible Dummy Series. Now
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Speaker 1: you used the words to Rashan, I'm writing and then
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Speaker 1: a dummy fire would come along. What exactly is happening
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Speaker 1: right there? When you say that term, they basically you're
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Speaker 1: a direct editor. That's basically what happens. But it's a
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Speaker 1: specific because the franchise has a specific way that they
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Speaker 1: speak to the audience. Right, There's a specific way that
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Speaker 1: you have to write the book. So that's what made
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Speaker 1: it even more challenging. It would be different about his
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Speaker 1: writing a book about my life and of telling my story,
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Speaker 1: and then I was able to kind of like have
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Speaker 1: more control over that, right, But that wasn't the case
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Speaker 1: with this. There's a specific and Taylor's way that they're
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Speaker 1: writing their book, and so the dummy Fire basically takes
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Speaker 1: book right edited down, tells me so du The whole
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Speaker 1: Dummy series is all about making learning simple, right, Okay,
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Speaker 1: And they've had they've had thousands of books. They're a
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Speaker 1: billion dollar company, they're they're sold worldwide and several different languages,
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Speaker 1: so they're very successful and they know how to communicate
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Speaker 1: with people very simple, with simplicity, and so what they
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Speaker 1: would do is, you know, I'm talking like I regularly
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Speaker 1: talk because I've also taught a lot of hairstyles in
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Speaker 1: my career, you know, with Lauriel for long time, with
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Speaker 1: Laurier for thirteen years. So I'm thinking like, this is
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Speaker 1: the way I can teach in this way. But that's
14:37
Speaker 1: it's you have to break it down even simpler and
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Speaker 1: and you can't like just say, you know, it'd be
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Speaker 1: great to have your curls dada. So the editor goes, well,
14:48
Speaker 1: what's great about it? Right? Say you know what I mean?
14:52
Speaker 1: I had to break all that down. So that's what
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Speaker 1: the hard part. It's like you write the book and
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Speaker 1: then you kind of rewrite the book, and then you
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Speaker 1: kind of it's a lot of work. That that that
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Speaker 1: that that check that was in that bank kept getting
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Speaker 1: smaller as small I didn't figure this couldn't. I had
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Speaker 1: to recluse a lot because you know, as much as
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Speaker 1: I wanted to like work and make money, I had
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Speaker 1: to like sit mine behind down and write because if
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Speaker 1: I didn't, I would have not been able to make deadlines.
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Speaker 1: I mean, of course I didn't make all the deadlines.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely as got pushed back I think once almost twice
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Speaker 1: to get pushed pushed back. But I made the final deadline.
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Speaker 1: So that was a hard part too. Like my my
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Speaker 1: bank accountage was the league because I'm not able to
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Speaker 1: take on the dock. Thank god, I was working with
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Speaker 1: Terman Hall, so that was a steady income, steady check.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time that extra income that you're
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Speaker 1: typically used to as a celeb hairstyle. I had to
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Speaker 1: turn down so many jobs just so I can complete
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Speaker 1: the book. We'll be right back with more Money Making
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Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald talking to Johnny Right.
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Speaker 1: This book is entitled Natural and Curly Hair for Dummies. Hey, Johnny,
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Speaker 1: when you um when you talk about this book, you know,
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Speaker 1: put the title of Arthur next to your name. You know, entrepreneurs, stylist, celebrity,
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Speaker 1: being a celebrity. They're just talking about that celebrity style.
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Speaker 1: It's the kind of like it's in front of your monica.
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Speaker 1: Is that a blessing or a curse. Um, it's a blessing.
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Speaker 1: I um, I enjoy it. I think you know, it's
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Speaker 1: twofold of a blessing because it's you know, the more
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Speaker 1: celebrities work with, the more celebrities are are looking to
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Speaker 1: hire you, right. And then when you have those high
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Speaker 1: profile CEO clients that want to be treated like celebrities, right,
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Speaker 1: and they have to book you, you know, to come
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Speaker 1: their home excusively, it's another plus because they know your
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Speaker 1: clientell by how how you represent in it and from
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Speaker 1: your resume, from your bio. So the thing is, it's
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Speaker 1: I think it's great, you know, I think it's of course,
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Speaker 1: it has been abused over the years and a lot
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Speaker 1: of people, a lot of people just want to have
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Speaker 1: that that title, right, celebrity health dollars and you know,
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Speaker 1: there's a whole lot that goes into it, which I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna probably do a masterclass about that one day soon.
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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I don't look
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Speaker 1: at it the curse of all. I think it's a
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Speaker 1: blessing um all the way through. Absolutely, because you know
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Speaker 1: I say that because of the fact that you know,
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Speaker 1: you just joined it right to me. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying that I consider you a friend, a guy
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Speaker 1: that I could come to for advice to. We have
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Speaker 1: on this conversation about being successful. It's African Americans in
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Speaker 1: the industry just to sometimes it's uh, it's a billion
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Speaker 1: dollar industry. They sometimes get gets gets shrunk down. It's
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Speaker 1: it's irrelevancy because of the fact that I come from
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Speaker 1: a family of six sisters and my mom, I hud.
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Speaker 1: I can remember my mom burning with the hot calmb
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Speaker 1: owner stove and impressing my sister's hair and they're they're screaming,
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Speaker 1: which he hits their ears. And that's the that's the
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Speaker 1: look of I grew up. You know, that's the community
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Speaker 1: of the black household. And then as you as you matured,
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Speaker 1: and plus the social media got all these people out here,
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Speaker 1: they're doing stuff online. How do you competell, how do
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Speaker 1: you or do you compete? When you see all these
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Speaker 1: uh TikTok videos, these YouTube videos, these social media posts,
18:27
Speaker 1: how does Johnny Wright you know, come out of that
18:30
Speaker 1: cloud or that fog of like, uh, that's not even
18:34
Speaker 1: part of my world. You know, I don't compete. I
18:37
Speaker 1: don't even compete with myself, you know, people say, my
18:40
Speaker 1: only competitions myself. I don't even do. I think that's
18:43
Speaker 1: such a cliche thing to say. I think people just
18:46
Speaker 1: it makes sense. But at the same time, I don't
18:48
Speaker 1: even do that, you know, to myself. I just I
18:50
Speaker 1: just live and move, you know, accordingly. Um. For me,
18:56
Speaker 1: I realized that having a strong team helpful. I don't
19:01
Speaker 1: really you know, have a great market team. My publicist
19:04
Speaker 1: is great Michelle Pascal cj M. And Creative Genes is
19:09
Speaker 1: a marketing team that's behind the book and everything. And
19:12
Speaker 1: that's what's really helping it from me. And it's not
19:16
Speaker 1: a comparison to others. I only could do it my way.
19:19
Speaker 1: And what's it's it's, um, I think it's it's curated
19:23
Speaker 1: for the Johnny Right experience. So I don't look I
19:26
Speaker 1: don't look at other people saying, of course I'm inspired
19:29
Speaker 1: by other people. Of course, right, I can see something
19:32
Speaker 1: on TikTok that inspired inspired me, and I call, you know,
19:35
Speaker 1: you know, my marketing team and say, hey, maybe we
19:37
Speaker 1: could do something similar to this and stuff like that.
19:40
Speaker 1: Other than that, I don't compete. I's one thing I
19:43
Speaker 1: don't have is that type of stress. I don't even
19:46
Speaker 1: I never think about that type of stuff. I just
19:48
Speaker 1: never do. And I think that's just my internal optimism
19:51
Speaker 1: because that's who I am. But I never ever really
19:54
Speaker 1: consider that kind of stuff, Souff. I'm thankful for that
19:56
Speaker 1: because I know it's so much pressure on so many
19:58
Speaker 1: people to show up a certain way to to to
20:03
Speaker 1: keep up with the joneses to be. And I've always
20:05
Speaker 1: kind of had my own lane and set my own
20:07
Speaker 1: trends and lived life exactly how I wanted to last.
20:11
Speaker 1: Here's the thing is that I'm just on the story.
20:12
Speaker 1: I have a daughter, you know, and my wife, and
20:15
Speaker 1: she was always she was a tennis prodigy and so
20:18
Speaker 1: and we put a perm and during the burnt her
20:21
Speaker 1: hair out. Okay, now she doesn't do that. She's natural
20:24
Speaker 1: and uh and things of that nature. So so your
20:28
Speaker 1: book talks about, you know, ditching the chemicals and uh,
20:33
Speaker 1: the textured locks that you want to have in taming
20:36
Speaker 1: the frieze and keeping hair monisted and looking luxious. What
20:41
Speaker 1: mistake did I do? Is it? Is it a mistake
20:44
Speaker 1: to use chemicals or is it? No? No, no, it's
20:48
Speaker 1: not a mistake. And that's one thing I wanted to
20:50
Speaker 1: make people understand. Even though my book is stalled natural
20:53
Speaker 1: and curling hair for dum mean, there's no shaming relaxes
20:56
Speaker 1: in my book. I didn't relaxed for a very long time.
20:59
Speaker 1: Some of my clients he'll get relaxes now. And it
21:01
Speaker 1: was done probably according to manufactors instructures. You won't you won't.
21:08
Speaker 1: You won't have a bad situation unless it just doesn't work.
21:12
Speaker 1: You know, the chemical just doesn't work for that president
21:14
Speaker 1: is so I can't believe speak to what you did wrong,
21:17
Speaker 1: but I would probably say what probably did um happen
21:21
Speaker 1: is it was either left on too long, it was
21:24
Speaker 1: too strong a chemical for your daughter at that time.
21:29
Speaker 1: Those things um playing to it. So you know, I'm
21:33
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's great that she's natural now and she
21:36
Speaker 1: lacked the versatility of our natural curls, which is great nothing,
21:39
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's beautiful. I sell. I will be
21:41
Speaker 1: buying the book now. I will be buying it. But
21:43
Speaker 1: it might be a Christmas president too. You know, stock suffer.
21:48
Speaker 1: It's a great stocking stuffer. So many people are purchased.
21:51
Speaker 1: I have so many friends that are sending it to me,
21:52
Speaker 1: talking to sign it for their family. But it's a
21:54
Speaker 1: great stock and something for Christmas. And the good thing
21:57
Speaker 1: about it is this book is about healthy period. Yes
22:01
Speaker 1: it's geared to a natural and curly art textures, but
22:04
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's about healthy heart. Yeah,
22:06
Speaker 1: you know, because that's when you know you get good.
22:08
Speaker 1: A book like this for a great gift, for a
22:10
Speaker 1: great time, a great level of celebration. The thing about
22:13
Speaker 1: I like about a book like anything like that, it
22:16
Speaker 1: goes back to being healthy, about feeling good about yourself
22:19
Speaker 1: and natural beauty. I think it's really what it's all about,
22:23
Speaker 1: because sometimes you can get to a world that kind
22:26
Speaker 1: of like it's fake and we you know, like I
22:28
Speaker 1: was just reading about Cardi B. She was talking about,
22:30
Speaker 1: you know, the fake, fake implanting up behind and she's
22:34
Speaker 1: telling people, don't do that. You don't even know what's
22:36
Speaker 1: real anymore, you know. And so when you go to
22:39
Speaker 1: Natural and Curly Hair for Dommies, which is the name
22:41
Speaker 1: of your book, it really kind of like it's so searching.
22:45
Speaker 1: I think that's how I kind of look at it
22:47
Speaker 1: as well, allowing a person to really look in the
22:49
Speaker 1: mirror and say, I'm beautiful. It's about me and guess
22:53
Speaker 1: what it works, And that's what to talk about. That's
22:58
Speaker 1: really the reason why I wanted to do the book.
23:00
Speaker 1: I think there's been so much discrimination against Black women,
23:04
Speaker 1: in particular when it comes down to their hair, especially
23:06
Speaker 1: in the workplace. I mean, you still have some some
23:09
Speaker 1: states still not passing the Crown Act so people can
23:13
Speaker 1: go to work as their natural sub which is I
23:15
Speaker 1: think it's insane. But the thing is that this book
23:18
Speaker 1: is a celebration of that, and I talk about the
23:21
Speaker 1: stigma in this book. I talk about the years of
23:24
Speaker 1: discrimination in this book, and I wanted people to understand
23:27
Speaker 1: that they are natural. And that's really why we want
23:30
Speaker 1: to do the tour to connect to more people, and
23:33
Speaker 1: it's the tour is called Naturally You, and it's we
23:36
Speaker 1: really want to have this conversation countrywide, worldwide about natural hair,
23:42
Speaker 1: the stigma natural hair, and how we can diminish that
23:46
Speaker 1: stigma and debunk those myths. And that's what this book
23:49
Speaker 1: really focuses on, is really getting people to understand that
23:53
Speaker 1: what you were born, but how you came into this
23:55
Speaker 1: world is more than a not well, you can hand thing,
23:58
Speaker 1: you can add pieces to it. All that stuff is fine.
24:01
Speaker 1: I don't shame any of that. In my book, I
24:03
Speaker 1: talk I talk about here e stensers and doing styles
24:07
Speaker 1: all those other things, but I just talk about how
24:10
Speaker 1: they properly do it to keep your hair healthy. I'm
24:12
Speaker 1: glad you say that, because you know when people here
24:14
Speaker 1: the word naturally and curly, they think it's the restricting extensions.
24:19
Speaker 1: It's stricting chemicals. Were this book encompasses it at all,
24:22
Speaker 1: but just telling everybody's safe way to use it, so
24:25
Speaker 1: you won't be like a bad dad like me burning
24:27
Speaker 1: my daughter's how because I'm trying to I'm just tired
24:30
Speaker 1: of just dealing with it. How long it's gonna be
24:32
Speaker 1: like that. I'm gonna just go get the term done
24:34
Speaker 1: and everybody. Here's the key thing to everybody. Everybody can't
24:38
Speaker 1: do the process correctly. That's what I learned. Yeah, how
24:42
Speaker 1: could you, Johnny, you the best? How would you recommend
24:46
Speaker 1: somebody who's out there, you know they got the book
24:48
Speaker 1: the Dumbi's book to would you say this is a
24:52
Speaker 1: book for that they at home can take care of themselves,
24:55
Speaker 1: or if they go out in public and get some
24:58
Speaker 1: type of care, they don't know what to look for. Yeah,
25:00
Speaker 1: so both of that a is in the book. So
25:02
Speaker 1: I walk people step by step how to take care
25:05
Speaker 1: of the hair. This is good, you know, speaking to
25:07
Speaker 1: your situation with you know you wasn't a single dad,
25:10
Speaker 1: but the thing is so single. There's a ton of
25:12
Speaker 1: single dads out there that we have daughters who have
25:14
Speaker 1: to have no idea what to do with their hair right.
25:17
Speaker 1: This book will help guide them do a really step
25:20
Speaker 1: by step how to do it. So I talk to
25:23
Speaker 1: the consumer, but this also for the professional as well too,
25:27
Speaker 1: so there's um and I also tell people how to
25:30
Speaker 1: find a hairstyle as near them with me and my
25:34
Speaker 1: team are actually working on building a directory for people
25:37
Speaker 1: to find natural hairstylers in their community. So that's something
25:41
Speaker 1: that we're gonna offer early twenty twenty three on my
25:44
Speaker 1: website Johnny dot com. And that way you can don't
25:48
Speaker 1: have to worry about searching so hard. And it's gonna
25:51
Speaker 1: be These are people that I recommend personally. It's not
25:54
Speaker 1: like love it. I love it man, because like you know,
26:00
Speaker 1: zach Uts that was a big for restaurants. Why it
26:02
Speaker 1: can't be Jay Dubb. You know what I'm saying. You
26:05
Speaker 1: know for hairstyles and know where to go. You go online.
26:08
Speaker 1: They've got black Doctor, got the dot Org for doctors
26:11
Speaker 1: who you can go that's been recommended, that have been vetted.
26:14
Speaker 1: Why can't that do? You could have saved me my
26:16
Speaker 1: poor daughter, Johnny, where you have brother? Come on? I
26:20
Speaker 1: needed you. She's twenty five and now. But hell, I
26:23
Speaker 1: did you buy fifteen years ago? But I had was
26:25
Speaker 1: falling on the floor. Come on, wait, so she was
26:28
Speaker 1: five years over this top? Do you like thirteen? She's
26:31
Speaker 1: like thirteen. But you know, like I said, again, I
26:36
Speaker 1: want to appreciate you from coming on the show Man.
26:38
Speaker 1: But again, Natural and Curly Half for Dominies by the
26:41
Speaker 1: incomparable Johnny Right, you'll learn how to tame frizz, keep
26:45
Speaker 1: your hair monsterized and looking luctious. With the right tricks,
26:48
Speaker 1: tips and advice, you can get a hay little soft,
26:50
Speaker 1: healthy curls just the way you want them. Johnny. Any
26:53
Speaker 1: closing thoughts of your book and what you're about to
26:55
Speaker 1: do next to your career. Talk about the website and
26:57
Speaker 1: talk about the tour, talking about the Sheelle Obama, talking
27:00
Speaker 1: about camera Hall got name dropped on that. You just
27:03
Speaker 1: a beast, my friend. Yeah, you know, it's just that
27:07
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this tour happening next year. I'm
27:10
Speaker 1: really excited to get how these intimate, personal, live conversations
27:14
Speaker 1: with women and men around the world. That's one thing
27:17
Speaker 1: I want to make sure people want to say, it's
27:18
Speaker 1: not just for women, it's for men to I have
27:20
Speaker 1: a sex been talking about what men could do and
27:23
Speaker 1: everything like that. But Harri's hair is not a gender right,
27:27
Speaker 1: and so we talk about We talk about all that
27:29
Speaker 1: in the book. And you know, this has been a
27:30
Speaker 1: great time for me. It was like kind of serendipitous
27:34
Speaker 1: that the first Lady was wearing braids during her tour.
27:36
Speaker 1: She talked about braids a lot um during our tour
27:40
Speaker 1: and why she decided to wear braids now, and how
27:43
Speaker 1: she didn't wear braids in the White House but she
27:45
Speaker 1: wore extensions and wigs, and how I was able to
27:47
Speaker 1: keep her healthy. All that is in the book. All
27:50
Speaker 1: that information is in the book, and I want people
27:53
Speaker 1: to get this, love it, and use it. This book
27:55
Speaker 1: is a you know, great thing about Dummy's book. You
27:57
Speaker 1: can just jump to a chapter that you interested in
28:00
Speaker 1: and take that and roll with it, or you can
28:02
Speaker 1: read the book straight through. That's out there to dine Johnny.
28:05
Speaker 1: When you when you get the website up at Roland.
28:07
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the website where you start identifying you know,
28:10
Speaker 1: vertous hair salons and styles around the country that you
28:13
Speaker 1: can in each state, each city. I want you to
28:15
Speaker 1: come back on the show. I think that's necessary. I
28:18
Speaker 1: do whatever I can in my social media retargeting, audience
28:22
Speaker 1: and stuff like they're like four point eight million, I
28:24
Speaker 1: could retarget to let people know about your brand. But again,
28:27
Speaker 1: and you're special and I always appreciate you taking the
28:29
Speaker 1: time to come home and share your story my audience.
28:32
Speaker 1: And again, congratulations, Thank you, Sorr. Really, you always supported
28:36
Speaker 1: me and I love being here on your show and
28:38
Speaker 1: I can't wait to come back. All right, we talked soon.
28:40
Speaker 1: Johnny Wright, the incredible and incopable successful entrepreneur Half Stylus,
28:44
Speaker 1: thirty years of experience and he just keep winning. Talk
28:47
Speaker 1: to your ladyes, Johnny Cool. We'll be right back with
28:49
Speaker 1: more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You are
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Speaker 1: is Jeff Friday, founder of American Black Film Festival. He
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Speaker 1: explains how important it is to have black representation in
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Speaker 1: film festivals. I was working in advertising in nineteen ninety seven, right,
29:17
Speaker 1: and when I would go to major film festivals, I
29:20
Speaker 1: never saw black and brown people. I primarily saw white men.
29:24
Speaker 1: And I was, you know, I was impressed with what
29:26
Speaker 1: I would see. It was creative, and it was bills
29:29
Speaker 1: getting made. And you know, there's a whole industry around
29:31
Speaker 1: film that people that we don't really think about, right,
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Speaker 1: I just didn't see brothers and sisters there, you know,
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Speaker 1: And I thought that that needed to be a change.
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Speaker 1: And my nature and when I don't, when I see
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Speaker 1: something that brings me discomfort, I don't complain about it.
29:47
Speaker 1: I just I just do something about it. To listen
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Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rashaan McDonald. Guess It's Ramone. Hervey, the
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Speaker 1: second Ramon is one of the first successful in universal
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Speaker 1: respected black pr professionals and personal managers in the entertainment
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Speaker 1: business in his new book, The Fame Game, and inside
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Speaker 1: his playbook for Earning Your Fifteen Minutes, he shares insights
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Speaker 1: and never before told antidotes from his trailblazing career, representing
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Speaker 1: me is a pioneer in the toughest side of the
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Speaker 1: entertainment business. The demanding work and genius of conceptionalizing, molding,
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Speaker 1: sustaining careers. It's a big time job. Please welcome to
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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. The one and Only. Ramone Hervey
30:43
Speaker 1: the Second. How are you doing, sir? Well, you know,
30:48
Speaker 1: when you when you manage the guy like Steve Harvard
30:51
Speaker 1: for sixteen years, you're gonna have that little, that little
30:54
Speaker 1: mistake every once in a while. But again, your career
30:56
Speaker 1: is fantastic, and let's get it started. Light attended. Huh yeah,
31:02
Speaker 1: so pan Am and uh the mid the early seventies
31:07
Speaker 1: and uh I got the job really because I killed
31:10
Speaker 1: two birds as one stone. PanAm was one of the last.
31:14
Speaker 1: Although it was the first international carrier, American International Carrier,
31:20
Speaker 1: they never had men on the on the flights because
31:23
Speaker 1: they had like fifty one vice presidents and they wanted,
31:26
Speaker 1: you know, really gorgeous women to the I candy for
31:28
Speaker 1: all the business guys, so that they came up with
31:31
Speaker 1: a really high level uh looking and you know everything
31:35
Speaker 1: stylists stewardesses. But all the foreign airlines did men, and
31:40
Speaker 1: so when I was interviewed, they didn't have any black men.
31:47
Speaker 1: I didn't have any men, and they didn't have very
31:49
Speaker 1: had very few black men or women. So I killed
31:52
Speaker 1: two birds with one stone and it was a it
31:55
Speaker 1: was a very uh adventurous time for me. And I
31:59
Speaker 1: got to see the old world. You know. The one
32:02
Speaker 1: thing that you have to realize when you're a steward
32:05
Speaker 1: and I was a college graduate. You know, the pepers
32:08
Speaker 1: said where you do for a job, And I said,
32:10
Speaker 1: I'm a waiter in the sky, And what does that mean?
32:12
Speaker 1: I'm a flight attendant, but really I'm a waiter, right.
32:16
Speaker 1: I never get that out of my head, that that's
32:18
Speaker 1: all I'm doing. But I had a lot of fun.
32:21
Speaker 1: You know, you could just stay in all the best hotels.
32:23
Speaker 1: I met a lot of great people and I had
32:25
Speaker 1: a lot of fun doing it. But you know, it's
32:27
Speaker 1: a ramone, you know, you kind of like throw that out,
32:30
Speaker 1: you know. I was a flight attend little Pandem, and
32:32
Speaker 1: in the era that you became a flight attend, you
32:34
Speaker 1: was very first. They wouldn't even hire men, let alone
32:36
Speaker 1: a black man, you know. So I don't want to
32:39
Speaker 1: trivialize the significance of being a first because there's so
32:43
Speaker 1: many racial situations you have to deal with, uncomfortable situation
32:47
Speaker 1: you have to deal with, how are you able to
32:49
Speaker 1: be who you are and sustain and continue to and
32:55
Speaker 1: continue to excel in the job that you were the
32:57
Speaker 1: first one at. Well, you know, I always go in
33:02
Speaker 1: that I'm as good as anybody else. So I always
33:04
Speaker 1: started with that. I never looked at him. I mean,
33:07
Speaker 1: I know what, you know. We live in a systemic
33:10
Speaker 1: racist system. So I was very aware of that, and
33:13
Speaker 1: I really wasn't sure. I didn't I'd never even been
33:15
Speaker 1: on a plane. I had been on one plane that
33:18
Speaker 1: job that was like a half hour flight from from
33:23
Speaker 1: Los Angeles to San Francisco, so I had I really
33:25
Speaker 1: was a fish out of water, and I was just
33:28
Speaker 1: trying something different because I wanted to get out of
33:30
Speaker 1: the States. I wanted to go somewhere else in the
33:33
Speaker 1: road and see how I would be viewed as a
33:35
Speaker 1: black man. And that was really my real goal. I
33:38
Speaker 1: had graduated, like I said, I was going to be
33:41
Speaker 1: a lawyer, and I didn't want to go to law school. Um,
33:44
Speaker 1: so I just said, let me find something. And a
33:46
Speaker 1: friend of mine, her name is Sheryl Brune, was the
33:50
Speaker 1: first black president of the National Academy of Motion Arts
33:55
Speaker 1: and Sciences and Motion Pictures inside inches and so she
34:01
Speaker 1: was a flight attendant for PNM before highways. She was
34:04
Speaker 1: one year ahead of me in college. We both went
34:07
Speaker 1: to Wier College and she's the one who hit me
34:09
Speaker 1: to her and told me they were looking for men
34:12
Speaker 1: um and they were hiring blocks. So she was one
34:14
Speaker 1: of the first black when I was one of the
34:17
Speaker 1: first black men. And then once I got in one
34:20
Speaker 1: of the funniest things was I had a big afro,
34:23
Speaker 1: and they told me that it couldn't be over three
34:26
Speaker 1: inches from the top of my head. They used to
34:28
Speaker 1: put a ruler in my head my head and I
34:34
Speaker 1: used to crack up because my head was probably about
34:36
Speaker 1: six inches. So I used to just pat it down whatever.
34:40
Speaker 1: When I left there, and when I flew I was
34:43
Speaker 1: always packed down. But then in my own private life,
34:45
Speaker 1: I'd let it go. Why well, I was in that
34:49
Speaker 1: afro era. I was in that afro ero, So I
34:53
Speaker 1: do exactly what you talked about afraid who had the
34:55
Speaker 1: perfect airfro man. It was like about it was about
34:57
Speaker 1: about a foot off his head and it was like
35:00
Speaker 1: beautifully and you just padded down man when he needed
35:02
Speaker 1: to padd it down. So I know exactly what you
35:04
Speaker 1: were dealing with. Now, you know, I'm assuming that you,
35:07
Speaker 1: like you said, you're a game changer because, like you said,
35:10
Speaker 1: you usually wanted to experience life from a different perspective.
35:12
Speaker 1: You know, that was one of the reasons why you
35:14
Speaker 1: wanted to be a flight attendant. Now how did you
35:17
Speaker 1: get into the whole transition? Did you meet somebody? No,
35:22
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna this isn't spoken to in the book,
35:24
Speaker 1: but your words and not giving away too much of
35:27
Speaker 1: the book, how did you make that transition of what
35:29
Speaker 1: envisioned you that you can be successful in the pr business,
35:34
Speaker 1: which eventually led to the management business, which left eventually
35:37
Speaker 1: led you to produce in television shows and concerts. Well,
35:42
Speaker 1: a couple of things happening here. I was based in London.
35:44
Speaker 1: So I was That's where I actually, you know, in
35:50
Speaker 1: the entertainment business, was in London because I got laid
35:53
Speaker 1: off from pan Am and I met a singer and
35:57
Speaker 1: um I had a writing background. I wrote and you know,
36:00
Speaker 1: on college, I wrote poetry. I wrote. I was a
36:03
Speaker 1: journalist in high school. I was an editor of my
36:06
Speaker 1: school newspaper and sports and stuff, and so I had
36:10
Speaker 1: that background and that gave me sort of an inroad
36:14
Speaker 1: because this talent agency out of London called Starlight Artists,
36:20
Speaker 1: they were looking for someone to help develop by a
36:24
Speaker 1: public relations department division of their company to promote their
36:28
Speaker 1: and they had some artists that they had at the
36:31
Speaker 1: time was a group club, the Bay City Rollers, and
36:33
Speaker 1: then in the early seventies they were they were being
36:36
Speaker 1: position as the next Beatles and so they were pretty big.
36:40
Speaker 1: So I did god, you know, some exposure. They had
36:43
Speaker 1: a couple of black artists, Matt Continny Kasson, they had
36:47
Speaker 1: Clem Curtis and the foundations that another group called Marmalade.
36:51
Speaker 1: So I ended up going to that company and that's
36:54
Speaker 1: where I started doing some writing meeting and then I
36:57
Speaker 1: went from there to a I became an editor of
37:01
Speaker 1: a couple of music magazines in London, and I wrote
37:06
Speaker 1: the whole magazine. In fact, it was so funny because
37:08
Speaker 1: when I got there was just was a publisher and
37:12
Speaker 1: his partner. His partner had a phishing magazine and he
37:14
Speaker 1: wanted to do the a phishing magazine. They didn't even have,
37:20
Speaker 1: you know, anyone writing, and I said, we'll look, you know,
37:23
Speaker 1: to be competitive. I think we need to make it
37:25
Speaker 1: look like we're bigger than we are. And I don't
37:29
Speaker 1: want to be the only person writing. You guys, mind,
37:31
Speaker 1: let's if I make up some names, right, right, And
37:34
Speaker 1: so that's what I did. I made up a staff
37:37
Speaker 1: and then I wrote. I tried to write different to
37:39
Speaker 1: reflect different Finaley and you truly were one man operation. Yeah,
37:46
Speaker 1: it was. It was me, this guy, the publisher, who
37:48
Speaker 1: really didn't do anything, but he was the one who
37:50
Speaker 1: was funding it. And I had an art director and
37:53
Speaker 1: we did. It was called Poster Magazine and the whole,
37:56
Speaker 1: the whole hope. The marketing hook was that in the
38:00
Speaker 1: contents of the magazine you got four big posters that
38:03
Speaker 1: you could pull out, and then the editorial copy was
38:06
Speaker 1: on the back of the posters. But you you know,
38:08
Speaker 1: to get four posters for the price of a regular magazine.
38:11
Speaker 1: You'd be playing four times, five times, ten times as much,
38:14
Speaker 1: you know, if you tried to buy those posters at
38:16
Speaker 1: any kind of rock store or whatever. But that was
38:19
Speaker 1: a gimmick. You know. We did pretty well, and then
38:21
Speaker 1: I ended up. I came to a threshold of time
38:26
Speaker 1: being in London where I had to decide am I
38:28
Speaker 1: going to be there and be a full resident or
38:30
Speaker 1: come back to Sate. And that's when I decided I'll
38:33
Speaker 1: come back to the States. And a shepherded my career
38:38
Speaker 1: to continue in the entertainment industry, and I got a
38:43
Speaker 1: job at Motown. But the funny about working at Motown,
38:47
Speaker 1: I got hired because I took a part time job
38:50
Speaker 1: working at a photo map roup. I don't know if
38:52
Speaker 1: you remember. I remember in Photo Man both absolutely, I
38:55
Speaker 1: remember those absolutely and Cranshaw. There was a photo map
38:59
Speaker 1: booth and I worked part time for like Okay, now, okay,
39:02
Speaker 1: that remote Rodeo, that's Rodeo. That's Rodeo. When you get
39:05
Speaker 1: to Chris Show, you know that it's Rodeo here that
39:09
Speaker 1: when you get over to Chris Showers Rodeo. Correct. Thanks
39:15
Speaker 1: for correcting me on that. As absolutely true. So it
39:19
Speaker 1: was right here a Pioneer Chicken, and people used to
39:21
Speaker 1: call up and say, they're going to rob the place,
39:23
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not gonna like, you know, die
39:26
Speaker 1: for some potomat bo. So I would just go like,
39:28
Speaker 1: you know, guy would call me. I said, you're a
39:31
Speaker 1: rock the place. I mean, we don't really have a
39:33
Speaker 1: lot of cash in it, you know whatever. I go
39:36
Speaker 1: sitting the Pioneer Chicken there was right you know, adjacent
39:39
Speaker 1: to the to the Little Shock. Call my manager and say, hey,
39:43
Speaker 1: someone said they're going to rob the place. I'm gonna
39:45
Speaker 1: sit here for a few minutes. If anyone comes, I'll
39:47
Speaker 1: let you know. If it's coast's clear, I'll go back
39:50
Speaker 1: and re open the shot. You know. That's funny. Yeah,
39:53
Speaker 1: that's whole. That's a whole ball with heels area that
39:55
Speaker 1: you just talking about, you know, which is now called
39:58
Speaker 1: South Central, And you know, like I was fortunate to
40:01
Speaker 1: live in LA for fifteen years, so I'm very familiar
40:03
Speaker 1: with the area and then the whole atmosphere that you're
40:06
Speaker 1: talking through. I lived through the I was down there
40:08
Speaker 1: through the Rodney king Um drama that took over the city.
40:13
Speaker 1: But more importantly just watching how you embraced it because
40:16
Speaker 1: you worked with iconic names, but also you worked with
40:19
Speaker 1: an iconic agency at the time, Rogerson Cohens, which is
40:23
Speaker 1: still Yeah. So I worked at Moretown first. So this
40:27
Speaker 1: guy Bob Jones, it's really probably my only mentor. I
40:31
Speaker 1: had worked at Rogers and Collen for a very brief time, right,
40:34
Speaker 1: and he was he ran black press at Motown Redcast
40:38
Speaker 1: and he's the one who hired me. He actually called
40:40
Speaker 1: me while I was working him in the photo map
40:44
Speaker 1: booth and said, you know, Fred, my name Bruce Toloman,
40:47
Speaker 1: who was a photographers. He knew you was in the
40:51
Speaker 1: photo map booth when he called you. I don't think
40:54
Speaker 1: he knew, you know, I wasn't volunteering that I love it,
41:00
Speaker 1: but he knew a guy named Bruce Toloman. Bruce Tolloman
41:04
Speaker 1: also went to Video College with me, and he's a
41:06
Speaker 1: very well known black photographer. Right. I was looking into
41:11
Speaker 1: magazines to try to find out, you know, ways to
41:14
Speaker 1: write in the States first, and I looked, you know,
41:18
Speaker 1: Soul Magazine was a legendary you know music magazine that
41:22
Speaker 1: featured R and B artist and he was in on
41:24
Speaker 1: their staff as a as a photographer. So I got
41:28
Speaker 1: a hold of him and he said, Hey, this guy
41:30
Speaker 1: Bob Jones, you might want to get to him a call.
41:32
Speaker 1: I heard that he might be looking for an assistant
41:35
Speaker 1: and Motown had just moved from Detroit to the CNN
41:40
Speaker 1: building on Sunset Boulevards, And so I ended up getting
41:44
Speaker 1: hired by Motown and that was a really great experience.
41:47
Speaker 1: I got to work with Stevie Wonder and Marvin Day
41:50
Speaker 1: and the Commodorees, Junior Walker in the All Stars at
41:55
Speaker 1: Jackson five, just a you know, Eddie Kendricks had left
42:01
Speaker 1: the tempetitions, Dennis Edwards, a lot of really talented artists
42:09
Speaker 1: and thought Stevie. The first time I met Stevie, I
42:12
Speaker 1: was in a meeting was a tremendous sister humor. By
42:14
Speaker 1: the way, a lot of people who wrote that he
42:16
Speaker 1: does oh yeah, him being blind as part of the
42:19
Speaker 1: whole process with him. You know, he's a and we've
42:24
Speaker 1: been friends for ever since I met him at Motown.
42:27
Speaker 1: But I got to be in a marketing meeting with
42:29
Speaker 1: him for the songs in the Key of Life, and he,
42:32
Speaker 1: you know, he was still a very young guy. He
42:34
Speaker 1: was in his twenties, but he was able to call
42:36
Speaker 1: this meeting because he wanted to know what everyone went
42:40
Speaker 1: at the label. He wanted all the division heads to
42:42
Speaker 1: be to give their spiel about what they're going to
42:45
Speaker 1: do to support his record right off the meeting, and
42:48
Speaker 1: he says, well, you know what I really want for
42:50
Speaker 1: this record more than anything else, is I want a
42:53
Speaker 1: billboard in Times Square that it's so big and so
42:55
Speaker 1: bright that even I can see it. And that set
42:58
Speaker 1: the temper, you know, community, he was thinking that high,
43:03
Speaker 1: that you were that serious. Absolutely, it was a short
43:06
Speaker 1: stoup manage, Steve Harvey. And then it was in La
43:09
Speaker 1: at ninety two point three to beat and we was
43:11
Speaker 1: on like the sixteenth floors, the top floor, and then uh,
43:15
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder was supposed to shore for an interview, and
43:17
Speaker 1: then Steve Won He called in on the hot line
43:20
Speaker 1: and Steve says, Steve Harper said where you at? And
43:22
Speaker 1: he said downstairs driving your truck and and so he
43:28
Speaker 1: told Steve looked out that right down this parking lot
43:31
Speaker 1: was Stevie Wanton behind the wheels of Steve Waters brand
43:33
Speaker 1: new Trump. Uh, back and forth, back and forth. One
43:38
Speaker 1: of the great personalities in the in the in the
43:41
Speaker 1: industry is Stevie Wonder Man. I know there was a
43:43
Speaker 1: great it was only funny, but I mean everything that
43:46
Speaker 1: he's done for uh you know the Martin Luther we
43:49
Speaker 1: King social justice. Yeah, social justice, and I mean I
43:54
Speaker 1: don't think that would have ever happened without Stevie Wonder.
43:56
Speaker 1: And then he religiously devoted himself to that and at
44:01
Speaker 1: the risk of his own career because I really think
44:04
Speaker 1: if you look at his you know, his climb to
44:07
Speaker 1: for success. Before he had like three albums back to
44:12
Speaker 1: back that won the Best Rammy Award, right, so he
44:16
Speaker 1: became politicized. White radio playing they didn't play him the
44:22
Speaker 1: same way that they had before. So he made some
44:25
Speaker 1: personal artistic sacrifices, you know, once he became more socially active,
44:32
Speaker 1: and he's really been a change your agent ever since.
44:36
Speaker 1: Oh he's brilliant. He's brilliant. Your book opens up with
44:40
Speaker 1: Richard Pryor as one of your first clients that we
44:43
Speaker 1: all know Richard Prior as a game changing entertainer, a
44:47
Speaker 1: guy who had a life where it was kind of
44:49
Speaker 1: self destructive, tied to alcohol type drugs, tied the relationship.
44:54
Speaker 1: How did he come into your life and what were
44:56
Speaker 1: the giant obstacles and maintaining some degree of control in
45:01
Speaker 1: his career for you well, as you mentioned briefly, I
45:07
Speaker 1: after Motown, I did go to Rogerson Cowny, and Rogerson
45:10
Speaker 1: County is where I really you know, that's my first
45:12
Speaker 1: client that I ever worked on at Rogers Cohn was
45:14
Speaker 1: was Paul McCartney. I put together a prescott for him
45:18
Speaker 1: because he owned a Buddy Holly catalog and he was
45:21
Speaker 1: doing a big week of promotion to promote his catalog.
45:24
Speaker 1: Absolutely smart of songs than you would ever imagine. I mean,
45:28
Speaker 1: he has a company called MPL Communications, and I had
45:31
Speaker 1: no idea that he had such wealth of publishing. I
45:37
Speaker 1: mean he owned over a hundred fight songs from all
45:41
Speaker 1: the major colleges in the US like Michigan, and I
45:44
Speaker 1: mean just unbelievable. Wow. That's how you know Rogers and
45:48
Speaker 1: Cowen was all white. I was the only black executive there.
45:52
Speaker 1: And David Franklin was Richard Pryor's manager, and he heard
45:57
Speaker 1: about me and he called me up and he said, Hey,
45:59
Speaker 1: I'm on DA, would you be interested in representing Richard Pryor? Like, um,
46:04
Speaker 1: you know, we've heard some good things about you, and
46:07
Speaker 1: so he was really the one that jettison the whole
46:10
Speaker 1: process of me getting in with Richard, and he actually
46:14
Speaker 1: not only did he say he wanted to, but he
46:17
Speaker 1: made it a point that in the contract that they
46:20
Speaker 1: couldn't assign him to anyone else but me. Wow, that
46:24
Speaker 1: was like a huge feather in my cap because at
46:26
Speaker 1: that point Richard was a superstar. Or risk I didn't
46:30
Speaker 1: make him a superstar. He was a superstar when I,
46:33
Speaker 1: you know, when I started working with him. And so
46:35
Speaker 1: to have that feather in my cap as a young
46:38
Speaker 1: black you know, just starting off, that was early on
46:41
Speaker 1: in my uh you know, ascension. I ended up being
46:44
Speaker 1: a vice president and the first black vice president at
46:47
Speaker 1: that company, but I signed Richard before that, and so
46:51
Speaker 1: it really was a big stamp of approval for me
46:54
Speaker 1: that Richard aligned himself with me and gave me, you know,
46:58
Speaker 1: some leverage where than that company, uh, you know, some
47:02
Speaker 1: respect to be able to bring us a black star event.
47:05
Speaker 1: You know, I had worked with a couple of other people, uh,
47:08
Speaker 1: Marlon mccombers junior were there at the time, and George
47:14
Speaker 1: Benson and I work for better black clients, but Richard
47:17
Speaker 1: was by far you know, the biggest one at that
47:20
Speaker 1: time in my career. And so when you when you
47:23
Speaker 1: when you meet a client like Richard, you don't know
47:26
Speaker 1: him personally. I was a fan of his and I
47:29
Speaker 1: knew his comedy and enormous respect for him, but I
47:33
Speaker 1: didn't hang out with Richard. I didn't know much about him.
47:35
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass
47:39
Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making Conversations
47:46
Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. How did you established Like I say,
47:50
Speaker 1: he wasn't your friend, he was your client. How did
47:52
Speaker 1: you establish trust with him? Um? You know, I think
47:57
Speaker 1: it's just by having um trying to be a voice
48:02
Speaker 1: of reason. That was probably my greatest challenge with Richard,
48:05
Speaker 1: is to be a voice of reason, because he had
48:07
Speaker 1: a tendency of canceling everything and then he wanted He
48:11
Speaker 1: was always he was always very shrewd in the sense
48:14
Speaker 1: that he knew when he was screwing up right, but
48:17
Speaker 1: he wanted to cover it in some way, either by
48:20
Speaker 1: a donation or something. Like he one time he canceled
48:23
Speaker 1: for a brotherhood Crusade Galla there, you know, Annual Galla, absolutely,
48:31
Speaker 1: and he called me at three o'clock in the morning,
48:35
Speaker 1: you know, on the day that he was supposed to perform.
48:38
Speaker 1: So he wasn't performing until like nine nine thirty that night, right,
48:42
Speaker 1: So the morning, him and his girlfriend or I think
48:45
Speaker 1: she was his wife. Then yeah, so they called me
48:49
Speaker 1: up and I can tell they're like a little buzz
48:52
Speaker 1: and whatever, and uh, they were telling me they have
48:55
Speaker 1: to cancel the concert, and I go, oh, because of doctor.
48:59
Speaker 1: They went to the doctor and I said, what's wrong
49:01
Speaker 1: with with you? And it goes well, and she's doing
49:04
Speaker 1: the speaking. I can hear him talking to her and
49:07
Speaker 1: she says that he has a stron nitis. So I said,
49:11
Speaker 1: gottunt nitis. I wasn't even sure what what that meant.
49:14
Speaker 1: So I looked with that plase I'm talking to them mother,
49:18
Speaker 1: it's a stomach ache. It's a fancy but but but
49:21
Speaker 1: but but but but rama, what did you look it up?
49:23
Speaker 1: It was? It was it was an internet back there, brother,
49:26
Speaker 1: you know. I ay, there's no Google or nothing like that,
49:34
Speaker 1: the fifties of pages or that without really I looked
49:42
Speaker 1: at it at a dictionary. Well, you know, maybe you
49:46
Speaker 1: guys should just go to bed and let's just see
49:50
Speaker 1: what happens in the morning, because I can't do anything
49:52
Speaker 1: about this now. You know, there was no like social
49:55
Speaker 1: media or anything. And if I did an announcement of
49:59
Speaker 1: press release anouncing that he was canceling in the concert,
50:02
Speaker 1: I'd have to go to AP or something that and
50:04
Speaker 1: actually call it in, right, So I just said, and
50:07
Speaker 1: also Danny Bakewell, who was the founder of the Brotherhood,
50:11
Speaker 1: could say I wanted to talk to him first and
50:15
Speaker 1: come up with the strategy and how we were going
50:16
Speaker 1: to deal with this, and Richard said, you know, you know,
50:21
Speaker 1: And so I got him to trust me, to let
50:23
Speaker 1: me handle it the way that I thought would be
50:26
Speaker 1: best for So I caught Danny in the morning and
50:28
Speaker 1: I Ritchie wants to cancel, but he's willing to give
50:31
Speaker 1: you guys ten thousand dollars. He wants to do a
50:34
Speaker 1: national release. I don't want to do any press release
50:37
Speaker 1: if we can avoid it, since nobody, you know, it's
50:41
Speaker 1: an LA event. It's not known that all across the
50:44
Speaker 1: country that he's even doing it, right, And Danny thought
50:47
Speaker 1: he agreed and thought it would be better if it
50:50
Speaker 1: didn't get out that he was going to not be there,
50:53
Speaker 1: and anyone of them tickets. He wanted them tickets. He
50:55
Speaker 1: don't want to lose those tickets. I know Danny very well,
50:59
Speaker 1: very good, Okay, no problem. I said. What I'm gonna
51:02
Speaker 1: do is I'm going to get a statement from Richard.
51:04
Speaker 1: So I called Richard up. I told him and said,
51:06
Speaker 1: I look, I talked to Danny. Here's what we're gonna do,
51:09
Speaker 1: going to save you some embarrassment or whatever, and he agreed.
51:14
Speaker 1: So I think it's it's always like for me when
51:17
Speaker 1: you're run into a crisis like that, it's the past.
51:20
Speaker 1: How do I solve it? How can I get him
51:22
Speaker 1: to trust that my decisions you know that I'm suggesting
51:26
Speaker 1: to him can be effective on his behalf. And once
51:30
Speaker 1: you do that a couple of times with even someone
51:32
Speaker 1: like Richard, he knows once that he can trust you.
51:35
Speaker 1: But also to it became a disadvantage because he knew
51:39
Speaker 1: that I'd be able to take care of it some way.
51:41
Speaker 1: I figure out some way to take care of you. Absolutely,
51:44
Speaker 1: your blessing and your skills can become a curse because
51:47
Speaker 1: he knows you're going to cover it. Son, Danny did
51:50
Speaker 1: get me because the whole idea was I was going
51:52
Speaker 1: to have him read this statement from Richard to make
51:57
Speaker 1: the announcement that Richard was donate thousand dollars and I'd
52:00
Speaker 1: never mind. Danny. I don't even talk to him on
52:03
Speaker 1: the punks. When I get there, I meet him, I said, well, Danny,
52:07
Speaker 1: here's the statement that Richard wants you to read. And
52:10
Speaker 1: you know you can say the tim down. Sure, I'm
52:12
Speaker 1: not reading that. You said you're here, you're this guy.
52:16
Speaker 1: Tell him here showing up. I love it. I love it.
52:19
Speaker 1: Big lesson of that was one part that I had
52:22
Speaker 1: not prepared prepared for. Danny Stanna get you want that money,
52:26
Speaker 1: but you gonna take those slings and arrows now. But
52:28
Speaker 1: he's a good guy, really good guys. He's five thousand
52:31
Speaker 1: black people that so that they paid all that money
52:35
Speaker 1: for it was not going to show up. Said that
52:37
Speaker 1: was a higher Then you got me on that one.
52:40
Speaker 1: Danny got me good. Absolutely. You know I'm talking to
52:42
Speaker 1: true trail blazer. Ramona Hervey, The Second h Richard, Pryor Bett, Miller,
52:47
Speaker 1: Paul mccarton, a Little Richard, the Bgs, Quincy Jones with
52:50
Speaker 1: the Weird Soundtrack, Harry Belafoni, Herb Albert, Peter Frampton, The Corpenters, James,
52:56
Speaker 1: con Nick, Nolty, Rick James, now Rick James. That was
53:00
Speaker 1: kind of like the Richard Prior of the music side
53:03
Speaker 1: for you right there, lyon Ritchie or with the Convodos,
53:07
Speaker 1: Don Kneas or Groundbreaker. When I was reading the book,
53:10
Speaker 1: I also had a great story about lou Brock that
53:13
Speaker 1: will You represented when he was and how he was
53:17
Speaker 1: fighting racism and how certain people were. I love the
53:20
Speaker 1: phone call you had with the senator who basically used
53:24
Speaker 1: every derogatory name, but you was. You was peaceful, You
53:27
Speaker 1: held Joe calm, but you had to deal with all
53:30
Speaker 1: these different things, these different levels of incindiary type conversation
53:34
Speaker 1: because you were black. But you had to hold your
53:36
Speaker 1: ground and be the professional all the time, correct Ramon, Yeah,
53:40
Speaker 1: you have to pick and choose your battles, you know.
53:42
Speaker 1: And at that time, like I said, I was the
53:44
Speaker 1: only black executive there, and you know a lot of
53:46
Speaker 1: my clients we were all and my peers we were all.
53:50
Speaker 1: You know, the book is really a hybrid and it
53:52
Speaker 1: really does tell my story, but it also talks about
53:55
Speaker 1: the systemic racism that it just in our industry and
53:58
Speaker 1: how hard it was for me and other blacks. You know,
54:02
Speaker 1: to break into the industry in and actually earn the respect,
54:06
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to move up the ladder
54:08
Speaker 1: and get the kind of money that our white counterparts
54:11
Speaker 1: were getting. Because what you know, this was in the
54:13
Speaker 1: seventies when I first started off, and that's literally was
54:16
Speaker 1: less than a decade, you know, the height of the
54:19
Speaker 1: civil rights movement. So the industry wasn't really that fast
54:24
Speaker 1: to make changes. Uh, you know, in the other part
54:29
Speaker 1: of society, they were resistant to change, and they were
54:31
Speaker 1: resistant for letting black people in. So you have to
54:34
Speaker 1: really be strategic and know that you had to do
54:40
Speaker 1: above and beyond what was expected in order to you know,
54:44
Speaker 1: move the needle. Well, you know, your book is incredible.
54:47
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Ramone Herving the second his book, The
54:50
Speaker 1: Fame Game Insiders Playbook for Earning your fifteen minutes. He
54:54
Speaker 1: shares insights and never before seen a toll antidotes from
54:57
Speaker 1: the trailblazing career that he's representing the Force Superstars. You know,
55:01
Speaker 1: as we close out this interview, sir, you know, I've
55:04
Speaker 1: been fortunate to live life in Hollywood, New York, that
55:07
Speaker 1: whole behind the scenes that the world is everybody wants
55:10
Speaker 1: to get into Everybody wants to be a part of
55:13
Speaker 1: it because it looks so easy because they always see
55:16
Speaker 1: the final product. They don't see the struggle to the
55:18
Speaker 1: final product. And it's and it's people. And we see
55:22
Speaker 1: how the PR industry has changed because of social media,
55:25
Speaker 1: because of the fact that some people can don't have
55:28
Speaker 1: to have talent to get that quote unquote fifteen minutes
55:31
Speaker 1: of fame and I'm making money, not so much time
55:34
Speaker 1: to their talent, but some little skills that they've developed.
55:37
Speaker 1: And it's got followers, and it's followers turn into income.
55:41
Speaker 1: It's social media is the one dynamic that's truly the
55:45
Speaker 1: difference between when you were breaking ground and how it
55:48
Speaker 1: is today. Well, I think it is a yeah, it's
55:53
Speaker 1: having a major influence, but I also like to tell
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Speaker 1: people to just sit back and reflect that it's only
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Speaker 1: thirteen years old. It's like a teenager in terms of
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Speaker 1: a media platform. You know, most of the major media
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Speaker 1: social media channels which would be LinkedIn uture Facebook, Instagram,
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Speaker 1: they all start even like MySpace, they all started somewhere
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Speaker 1: between two thousand and four and two thousand and six,
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Speaker 1: but it wasn't until two thousand and ten that they
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Speaker 1: actually reached mass appeal. So you know, whenever you're going
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Speaker 1: to change your whole life and your whole in the
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Speaker 1: society and everything based on a media that is still
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Speaker 1: very young, it's still in its very you know, embiotic stages.
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Speaker 1: I think, only a little over a decade. That's not
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Speaker 1: long compared to television, which is was invented originally in
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Speaker 1: the thirties but didn't reach homes until the fifties, and
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Speaker 1: then radio was even in the eighteen hundreds, you know,
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Speaker 1: So you have all these other platforms that we've been
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Speaker 1: using and you know, been influenced by for so many years,
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Speaker 1: and then yet we're letting this one platform really and
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Speaker 1: I think the problem the difference with social media that
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Speaker 1: has affected people's perception of fame or wanting fame over success,
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Speaker 1: Like Working for Success. In my book, one of the
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Speaker 1: things that I do say is that famous not a destination. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: it's an alcolating and honor that you get from a
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Speaker 1: byproduct of being successful. I don't know any any famous
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Speaker 1: people that aren't successful first, So there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: wealthy people that aren't things right, you can be wealthy
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Speaker 1: and you can be successful without fame, but it's very
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Speaker 1: hard to be famous without success and wealth. Well, it
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Speaker 1: is a difference. Many times I make famous. People say
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Speaker 1: if I can make this money without somebody recognize me,
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Speaker 1: I show enough would do it again. I want to
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Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time to come on money
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Speaker 1: making come with these the mastercalife, brilliant readbandon for me personally,
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Speaker 1: since I spent so many times in hollow Would I
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Speaker 1: know your sister who was an incredible executive producing writer
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Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and a lot of names, Bill Hammond Haymond
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Speaker 1: who was one of the great live event producers, did
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Speaker 1: all the golf tournaments for Steve Harvey back when I
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Speaker 1: was managing them in Los Angeles. A lot of names.
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Speaker 1: Bi huh, I can his first job, well, well, you
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Speaker 1: mentioned that in the book, which he, like you said,
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Speaker 1: and the band he worked on a project there his
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Speaker 1: first experience with life absolutely and and like you said,
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Speaker 1: he took that and made a business out of it.
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Speaker 1: Very successful. I guess you could say worldwide, because he
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Speaker 1: too events all over this world. Man Bills a baller.
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Speaker 1: But again, thank you for taking the time to come
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Speaker 1: on the show Man. Happy holidays, and I appreciate you. Okay,
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