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Codie Elaine Oliver, Myleik Teele, Sheila P. Coates, & More · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: True. Hey there, this was Sean McDonald. Welcome to Money
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Speaker 1: the model I'm trying to get out there about these days.
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Speaker 1: Let me make one quick announcement New York City. I'm
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Speaker 1: coming New York City. I'm coming this Saturday. I'll be
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Speaker 1: at the Circle of Sisters w b LS. I'll be
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Speaker 1: doing a baking seminar at um New eleven am at
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Speaker 1: the Jacob Jabet's Center. Circle of Sisters. Uh Rashan McDonald
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Speaker 1: will be doing a color I'll be in the culinary corner.
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Speaker 1: It's because stage I'll be making baked banana putting. In fact,
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Speaker 1: I am going to be making baking eight baked banana
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Speaker 1: pudding in that so people can sample. So I'll be
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Speaker 1: passing out samples. So get in line at eleven am
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Speaker 1: Circle of Sisters in New York City with the radio
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Speaker 1: station w b LS. I'll be up there this Saturday.
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Speaker 1: Actually I will arrive on Thursday. Uh, do some shopping,
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Speaker 1: do some baking on Friday, show up on Saturday morning
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Speaker 1: with my eight baked banana puddings. And the only way
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Speaker 1: I Rushan can do it, Like I got my man
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Speaker 1: RJ and Terrence. They know, see I bring them food
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Speaker 1: every week in here, so you know, it's good to
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Speaker 1: have people who get excited about your food. They let
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Speaker 1: you know immediately how you feel. Like today, I got
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Speaker 1: a little barbecue spread for them that when I'll get
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Speaker 1: off the air, they're gonna have the reb tips, They're
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Speaker 1: gonna have this sausage, they're gonna have the green beans,
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Speaker 1: the barbecue beans, potato salad, all that good stuff that
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Speaker 1: comes from the Big Six Barbecue, Big six Barbecue. They
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Speaker 1: have a small business that has been on the show.
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Speaker 1: Now that afternoon and Circular Sisters, I will be hosting
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Speaker 1: a money making Conversation seminar at Jacob Japans at four pm.
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Speaker 1: So I'll be two two things I'll be doing while
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Speaker 1: I'm there this weekend. At the Circle of Sisters, I'll
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Speaker 1: be doing the culinary Corner where I will be doing
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Speaker 1: perfect big time with Rushan McDonald and I will be
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Speaker 1: demonstrating how to bake banana pudding. But not only that,
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Speaker 1: I will be giving out samples because I'll be bringing
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Speaker 1: eight baked banana puttings with me. Then at four o'clock
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Speaker 1: the afternoon, I'll be doing a seminar on how to
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Speaker 1: be successful money making conversation seminar how to be successful
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Speaker 1: in your personal life and in your business life, hosted
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Speaker 1: by me. And that's what I'll be doing this weekend.
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Speaker 1: So please tell your friends I'll be up there. I'll
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Speaker 1: be posting on my LinkedIn account. I'll be posting on
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Speaker 1: my social media account letting everybody know if she looks
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Speaker 1: on the phone. Okay, cool, great, she's on the phone.
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Speaker 1: But before I bring online, let's let everybody if you
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Speaker 1: or any of my guests, please call A three two
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Speaker 1: three zero five five nine two. That's eight three two
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Speaker 1: two three zero five five nine two. My next guest
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Speaker 1: has been on this show. This will be a third
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Speaker 1: appearance on this show. That's because she makes it happen
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Speaker 1: and she tells it like it is, and she is
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Speaker 1: a branding and marketing as they say, Mavin's the CEO
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Speaker 1: or be your own brand, which is b while it
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Speaker 1: will be trademarked by her. Is the culmination of two
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Speaker 1: decades of experience as a marketing executive specializing in branding
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Speaker 1: and imaging for talents such as Mary J. Blige, Sean P.
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Speaker 1: Did Combs, Tony Braxton, Lenny Kravitz, Jeral Scott, baby Face,
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Speaker 1: Later Hathaway, and many more. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations.
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Speaker 1: The incredible Sheila Coates. Good morning, Good morning. How are
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Speaker 1: you doing? Sheila? I am blessed. How are you well?
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Speaker 1: You don't feel good talking to you because you have
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Speaker 1: that fantastic tone in your voice and you are you
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Speaker 1: know it's it's it's elegant and intelligence personified. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Flattery will get you. Well, I got to.
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Speaker 1: I got to. You know the thing about it whenever
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Speaker 1: I have you on the show, whenever we're talking and uh,
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Speaker 1: because we have a relationship where we can communicate and
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Speaker 1: it's all about how we can get better, how we
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Speaker 1: can um take the next step because there's no you know,
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Speaker 1: you're never satisfied. I think people tend to believe that
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Speaker 1: when you reach your goal, it stops, and that's where
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Speaker 1: they make a major mistake. Correct exactly. Look, you're you're
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Speaker 1: an example of that personified. You know, how many goals
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Speaker 1: have you obtained and you keep on moving. I think
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Speaker 1: life is about learning and constantly bettering yourself and understanding
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Speaker 1: what you bring to the table. Okay, cool, with that
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Speaker 1: being said, Be why O B, which is be your
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Speaker 1: own brand that's been trademarked by you. What is it
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Speaker 1: all about? So we've got because I got you for
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Speaker 1: two breaks today, so we can slow it down. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna get the word out. You know, if we've talked
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Speaker 1: about how we're gonna eventually create these relationships where you know,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do conferences around the country and seminars around
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Speaker 1: the country, and you're gonna be a major player, and
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Speaker 1: that please explain to everybody why what is b y
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Speaker 1: O b okay B while being a nutshell is helping
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Speaker 1: people understand how to define their uniqueness and why is
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Speaker 1: that important? Because you need to know your competitive edge.
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Speaker 1: I'm not the only one doing branding. You're not the
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Speaker 1: only one who as a radio show. But what you
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Speaker 1: bring to the table and who you are is what
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Speaker 1: makes you unique. It separates you from everybody else. So
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Speaker 1: what I help people do and help companies do is
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Speaker 1: to find that uniqueness. What makes you you? Why you
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Speaker 1: You know, we all think we're hot, we all think
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Speaker 1: we're amazing, but it's something that you bring to the
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Speaker 1: table that other people don't. It's like your DNA. If
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Speaker 1: you look at your fingertips, you know the beliefe men
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Speaker 1: always go to the fingertips and they're close to someone else,
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Speaker 1: but it's not quite that one line that goes in
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Speaker 1: a different direction says that that's for Sean McDonald, because
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Speaker 1: that's dealer coats. The same is true for your brand
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Speaker 1: and b y l by branding you on who you are,
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Speaker 1: not what you do, because what will change if you're
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Speaker 1: branding yourself on being a television writer and then being
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Speaker 1: you know, a partner with Steve Harvey, then you could
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Speaker 1: never go into anything else you wanted to do. We're
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Speaker 1: never branded herself in one lane. So that goes to
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Speaker 1: the question about multiple streams of income. Yes, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of people say that, but they don't. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot of work involved with that. Look, I'm tired right now.
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Speaker 1: Look and over here trying to beat the faith right
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Speaker 1: now because I'm tired because when you when you're multiple
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Speaker 1: streams of income, it's really multiple streams of the lane
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Speaker 1: that you're good in, right See, you don't do multiple streams.
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Speaker 1: And I'm a Sheila tried to be a computer science
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Speaker 1: person and then tried to get in some kind of
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Speaker 1: technical thing and then did the creative thing. It may
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Speaker 1: not work for me. But when you look at people
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Speaker 1: who are great and multiple streams of revenue because they've
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Speaker 1: mastered their lane, that's that's you know lane, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's it's And also they understand the multitasking and that's
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Speaker 1: really the key. And I hear that a lot. You know,
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Speaker 1: I can only focus on one thing, And when I
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Speaker 1: hear that, I go, really, that's always you're already telling
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Speaker 1: yourself that you don't want to accomplish anything other than
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Speaker 1: what you're doing. And when I'm gonna phone right now,
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Speaker 1: people just tuned in up. My guess is the CEO
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Speaker 1: be your own brand. She's the coach. What is the
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Speaker 1: one of the major mistakes that people make when when
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Speaker 1: in the marketing in the branding arena because they don't
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Speaker 1: understand the difference between marketing and branding. Okay, okay, just
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Speaker 1: let that down. There is a difference between marketing and branding.
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Speaker 1: That's what you're seeing exactly. Marketing is yelling about who
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Speaker 1: I am. I'm telling me that. That's that's a billboard
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Speaker 1: that's putting something out there here, I am here, I
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Speaker 1: am seeing me. Branding is engagement, influencing the way that
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Speaker 1: you think, understanding the perception that you want people to
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Speaker 1: get when they engage with you. See, there's a perception
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Speaker 1: that I want Rashawan and the listeners to get any
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Speaker 1: time they hear me speak. I'm clear about that now.
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Speaker 1: When I market, all I'm saying is here, I am.
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Speaker 1: Did you see my store? Did you see my business?
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Speaker 1: You would you come in and buy something from me?
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Speaker 1: That's not engaging, right, that's just telling right. So so
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Speaker 1: you're saying, I'm just trying to break it down. Like
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Speaker 1: I said, I'm pushing you too far too quick on
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Speaker 1: this thought process. So how would that work if you
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Speaker 1: Chick fil A they market their sandwich, so they brand services.
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Speaker 1: That's what they in the quality of their food is
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Speaker 1: that's that's the difference. Well, the engagement is who they
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Speaker 1: are and what they stand for and getting you to
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Speaker 1: understand the kind of sandwich they make. You know, the
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Speaker 1: kind of sauce that's on that sand how we deliver
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Speaker 1: that see you, that's engagement. Now, whenever they post a
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Speaker 1: poster or post a billboard, that's marketing. Yeah, the cow
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Speaker 1: on TV pointing to the chickens. Didn't you to see
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Speaker 1: the cow? Remember that time? Remember that when you see
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Speaker 1: that cow? Think about fil You're engaging me? Is because
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Speaker 1: you're sharing something is me about your uniqueness and who
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Speaker 1: you are and why I want that experience because I
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Speaker 1: read because I wanted to break that down because a
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Speaker 1: lot of people, because you know, you throw out these
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Speaker 1: words marketing, you throw out these words branding, but really
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Speaker 1: the work is in the branding because you can go, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I can stand on the corner and then you see
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Speaker 1: this a lot people how these are rotating signs when
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Speaker 1: they rotate them and you see the signs. So that's
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Speaker 1: the marketing part. The branding part is when that customer
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Speaker 1: who sees that sign goes in there to get the
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Speaker 1: service that you're promoting. Okay, exactly, And it's and it's
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Speaker 1: that perception. I'm been on perception because people don't understand
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Speaker 1: the power of perception. If I give you something right now,
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Speaker 1: let's let's do this. If and you don't even have
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Speaker 1: to see this, this is just that's on the radio.
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Speaker 1: But if I say a Corvett, something comes to mind,
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Speaker 1: car fast car. I say yes. If I said, okay,
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Speaker 1: so you took it to fast car. Right, So if
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Speaker 1: I say a red Corvette, become clear, say aad Corvette
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Speaker 1: with M you see a whole different thing because the
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Speaker 1: perception is starting to become clearer and clearer and clear.
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Speaker 1: Because that's the engagement you have with Corvette that is fast,
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Speaker 1: that is cool, that it's moving. You just think, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm barely trying to get there. I'm trying to take
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Speaker 1: my kids to school. I need to get to work
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Speaker 1: in that car. Because that's a that's more of a Volvo, right, Yes,
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Speaker 1: it's the experience that that car is wanting you to have.
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Speaker 1: That's why I tell people there's thousands of car company,
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Speaker 1: but every time you see one, they don't talk about
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Speaker 1: what they have in common. They talk about what makes
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Speaker 1: them different. That is so true, and that is the
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Speaker 1: marketing and branding difference. So let me ask you this.
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Speaker 1: Let me just ask you to because we're going to
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Speaker 1: break in a minute. I want you to answer this.
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Speaker 1: Fore we go to break. What what benefits does Sheila
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Speaker 1: Coach bring to a business or to an individual? Can
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Speaker 1: we're going next week we gonna talk about your webinars?
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Speaker 1: What is that? What's the benefits? It's uh. If it's
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Speaker 1: a company, I do a lot of branding of employees
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Speaker 1: and the benefit of that is ultimately companies who want
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Speaker 1: to increase their revenues. Because when I when my employees
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Speaker 1: feel better and do better, they produce better. They don't
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Speaker 1: bring me in because they like me. They're looking for
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Speaker 1: ways to uh create better teams, create better leaders, have
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Speaker 1: different kinds of teams. Because all teams can be made
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Speaker 1: of a quarterback, then there will be nobody to throw to.
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Speaker 1: So you gotta understand your uniqueness and what you bring
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Speaker 1: to that team. So that's why companies bring me in
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Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, when their employees
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Speaker 1: feel better about themselves and are engaged and who they are,
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Speaker 1: companies make more money. Individuals preing me and and I've
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Speaker 1: worked with the first Lady of Bermuda, numerous artists. Just
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Speaker 1: did a piece with the Atlanta Hawks and Monica. What
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Speaker 1: we're doing with that particular platform is that what do
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Speaker 1: you bring to the table that's different than the person
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Speaker 1: that was there before you, because again, you're not only one,
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Speaker 1: but when you step into that arena, what do you
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Speaker 1: want people to know about you? And how do you
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Speaker 1: want to make them feel so that when they leave there,
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Speaker 1: they're talking about you in a way that you wanted
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Speaker 1: them to talk about you. That's the engagement. So it
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Speaker 1: depends on if it's an individual, if it's a company.
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Speaker 1: I have a different company right now that I'm working with,
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Speaker 1: and I do all of their brand strategy for their
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Speaker 1: events because while they spend a lot of money, people
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily know them because they're marketing, not in not branding,
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Speaker 1: because they don't create the engagement. So what I'm doing
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Speaker 1: for them is helping them strategize why are we doing
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Speaker 1: this event? What's the return on the investment on this event?
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Speaker 1: And what do you want people to feel when they
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Speaker 1: come to this event. Okay, we listen to she to
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Speaker 1: coach the CEO of Be Your Brand B y O B.
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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more money making conversations. Don't go nowhere.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out about her webinars and also more
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Speaker 1: information on how you can be successful in the world
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Speaker 1: of marketing and branding. She's especial. It's just every time
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Speaker 1: on the show. So you know I'm bringing it back
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Speaker 1: and having full or five times on the show. Be
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Speaker 1: right back with more money making conversations. Huh This Sean
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Speaker 1: McDonald for Shawn McDonald, back with more money making conversations.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show and show it's created to get
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Speaker 1: provide you with information so you can win in your
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Speaker 1: personal life and then your business life. That's what money
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Speaker 1: making conversations on the mine on the show today right
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Speaker 1: now on the hole, I'm about to bring it back up.
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Speaker 1: Is the CEO or Be your Own Brand. That's be
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Speaker 1: why I'll be she look coates. She like, welcome back
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Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you so much. I was laughing
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Speaker 1: to myself because you can tell I'm passionate about branding
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Speaker 1: and marketing. I was like, let's just slow down because
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Speaker 1: see a lot of people, it's not so much you.
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Speaker 1: You know, you don't need to slow down people, it's
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Speaker 1: energy to get you there. You know. Sometimes you know,
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Speaker 1: I you know, I've changed my tone on the show.
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Speaker 1: I used to be moving to one hundred miles an
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Speaker 1: hour because I was afraid that people wouldn't get what
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Speaker 1: I was trying to say or wouldn't understand my commitment,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people confused, and I'm just like,
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Speaker 1: you know, what you're saying is fantastic. Just trust yourself.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm doing with myself. I'm starting to
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Speaker 1: trust myself more on the radio and when I talk
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Speaker 1: to people, because you know, you want people react to
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Speaker 1: you when you speak, and then some people just stat
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Speaker 1: you and you're like, you know, okay, did you hear
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Speaker 1: what I just said? You know, if you go around
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Speaker 1: the corner, there's an opportunity and a lot of people
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Speaker 1: just will slowly walk around the corner because they don't
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Speaker 1: question you. And so when I hear that passion in
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Speaker 1: your voice, it's it's just you're just letting everybody know
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Speaker 1: there's opportunity over them their heels. Yes it is, Yes
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Speaker 1: it is, and that you can do anything when you
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Speaker 1: understand how powerful you are what you bring to the table.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know my journey. I was
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Speaker 1: an executive in the music business for years, you know,
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Speaker 1: got to the level of CMO, and I chose to quit.
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Speaker 1: Now I will say that the days I'm like, what
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Speaker 1: did you do? When you know that I didn't brand
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Speaker 1: myself and didn't put my blindness so to speak, on
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Speaker 1: being an industry executive, then I realized I can do
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Speaker 1: this for myself. I can do this with others. If
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Speaker 1: I was able to brand celebrities, I can definitely brand individuals.
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Speaker 1: I can go into corporations because who I am is
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Speaker 1: who I am. It wasn't based on what I was doing. Now,
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Speaker 1: with that being said, these webinars that you do which
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Speaker 1: allows people to communicate with you, please explain why you
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Speaker 1: started them, how one can be involved with him? And
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Speaker 1: it's your floor because he the first break was kind
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Speaker 1: of like my break, you know, I ain't have it
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Speaker 1: was I asked, as you not one question that you
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Speaker 1: sent me because all by rash because you know, you
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Speaker 1: know I know that you know what we can see.
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Speaker 1: I have a different insight on your on what people
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Speaker 1: want to say and here, and you have a talent.
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Speaker 1: That's sometimes I want to dig a little deeper. Now,
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Speaker 1: this break is still equally important because you know it's
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Speaker 1: about why is personal branding important? Which leads to your webinars? Correct, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: And I'm just starting the webinars for individuals. I do
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Speaker 1: webinars for corporate America because a lot of the time
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Speaker 1: they have e learning. A lot of corporations have um
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Speaker 1: universities and they allow their employees to be able to
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Speaker 1: do learning and training on their own. But my thought was,
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Speaker 1: how does the average person When I say average, don't
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Speaker 1: take that as less than but the regular person, entrepreneur,
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Speaker 1: the person who's trying to pick college classes, how do
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Speaker 1: they understand their uniqueness? How does an entrepreneur who's launching
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Speaker 1: a business, but there's twenty businesses like there's find what
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Speaker 1: makes them unique? So that's how I started during the
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Speaker 1: individual webinars, and so we are launching one that's the
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Speaker 1: generic one. When I said meaning that you can no
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Speaker 1: matter if you're an entrepreneur or a college student, a
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Speaker 1: customer service rev work at a company, you will walk
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Speaker 1: away with an understanding of your uniqueness and the power
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Speaker 1: it takes to be a brand. And that's called everybody's
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Speaker 1: a brand. And for Ard Sean McDonald, because your audience
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Speaker 1: and you have been so good to me, and this
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26:32
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27:01
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27:05
Speaker 1: one of them was working in feature film development at
27:07
Speaker 1: Fox Searchlight Pictures. She is now the executive producer of
27:11
Speaker 1: the highest successful documentary on own network. That's Oprah's network.
27:16
Speaker 1: It's called Black Love. Please work on the money making conversations, Cody,
27:20
Speaker 1: Elaine Oliver, how are you doing? I'm great? What it was?
27:24
Speaker 1: It was that in? It was that intro? Big enough
27:26
Speaker 1: for you? Because you know you're rising star. You're rising star.
27:30
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I keep you rising, keep your rising.
27:35
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and you got it. I am definitely
27:37
Speaker 1: a very proud graduate of Howard University. I know, it's
27:41
Speaker 1: it's interesting. There's so many people just getting you know,
27:44
Speaker 1: there's so many people in the industry. You know, I've
27:46
Speaker 1: been in the industry with twenty years in l A
27:49
Speaker 1: and that come out of that Howard University camp. What's
27:52
Speaker 1: what's going on there? Do they focus on entertainment? What
27:55
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about that that you went
27:57
Speaker 1: to Howard and what what what? How it did help
28:00
Speaker 1: you be successful to this point in your life from
28:02
Speaker 1: Howard University. So to be perfectly on a Howard University
28:06
Speaker 1: was home to me. I mean, I'm from Fort Worth, Texas,
28:09
Speaker 1: but my whole family went to Howard and so growing
28:12
Speaker 1: up I've spent a lot of time in dc US
28:14
Speaker 1: in a lot of time at Howard. I certainly had
28:16
Speaker 1: a choice because my sister went to Hampton, Like, it
28:18
Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, you have to go to Howard. But
28:20
Speaker 1: for me, it just always felt like home. So I
28:24
Speaker 1: would say that was a big part of why I
28:25
Speaker 1: went there, in addition to the fact that I had
28:26
Speaker 1: gone to predominantly white schools my whole life. So for me,
28:29
Speaker 1: it was like I need this, I need to be
28:33
Speaker 1: with black people. That was important to me UM at
28:35
Speaker 1: that time in my life. And and then I would
28:38
Speaker 1: say as far as successful people coming from Howard, besides
28:42
Speaker 1: Howard choosing the best in the bradest, of course, I
28:45
Speaker 1: would say that Howard really builds us up to be
28:48
Speaker 1: strong individuals, and specifically strong Black people, to be confident
28:53
Speaker 1: in what we're doing. And so when you go into
28:56
Speaker 1: whatever profession that is, whether that's entertainment or teaching or business. UM,
29:01
Speaker 1: there's just a mindset of being really comfortable with who
29:05
Speaker 1: you are and and what's important to you, what messages
29:09
Speaker 1: are important to you, and you bring that into whatever
29:12
Speaker 1: you're doing. That's awesome. That's awesome. Before we're going to
29:15
Speaker 1: further you know, I got into the Howard conversation because
29:17
Speaker 1: on my show, I'll just become engaged with Maya interviews
29:21
Speaker 1: real quick. Please explain everybody exactly what the documentary of
29:25
Speaker 1: Black Love is and then we're gonna go in more details.
29:28
Speaker 1: Absolutely so. Black Love is a four part docuseries that
29:32
Speaker 1: aired on own UM throughout September. UM. They're still on
29:35
Speaker 1: the app and the website if you want to catch it. UM.
29:38
Speaker 1: And Black Love was for my husband and I. We
29:41
Speaker 1: did it together. UM. It was interviewing black couples on
29:45
Speaker 1: what it takes to make a marriage work for the
29:47
Speaker 1: wrong haul. UM. There's no secret. We knew that, we UM,
29:52
Speaker 1: but we wanted to have that conversation number one because
29:55
Speaker 1: we needed it. I grew up the child of divorce
29:58
Speaker 1: parents talking. You grew up without his parents being married,
30:01
Speaker 1: and so we didn't see those relationships in our household.
30:04
Speaker 1: Here we are too married people trying to figure out
30:06
Speaker 1: what that means, like what does that look like every day?
30:09
Speaker 1: And in addition to that, UM, I think a lot
30:11
Speaker 1: of us are going up that way for various reasons.
30:14
Speaker 1: You know, the data says that over seventy black children
30:17
Speaker 1: are growing up the single parent homes. And that doesn't
30:19
Speaker 1: necessarily mean they don't know them mother and their father,
30:21
Speaker 1: just means they're not married, they're not in the same household.
30:23
Speaker 1: And so when you set out and you try to
30:25
Speaker 1: build a life with somebody and you don't really know
30:27
Speaker 1: how to do that, um, it's really hard. It's already
30:31
Speaker 1: hard to be married. But take the fact that there's
30:33
Speaker 1: no rule book, there's no use, no no plan, no
30:37
Speaker 1: no mentors. Right, and plus you had no you had
30:40
Speaker 1: no example of that, That's what you're saying. You and
30:43
Speaker 1: your husband had no example of this looking at uh,
30:48
Speaker 1: you know, two parent household because it never existed for you, right,
30:52
Speaker 1: And so we knew that we weren't alone. We knew
30:54
Speaker 1: that more people would want to hear that conversation. And also,
30:57
Speaker 1: no matter what stage of the relationship you're in, I
30:59
Speaker 1: think it's as whether you're single as they say single
31:02
Speaker 1: as a dollar bill, or whether you're engaged or wherever
31:05
Speaker 1: you are twenty years in. It helps to see other
31:09
Speaker 1: people going through things and going, oh, okay, I could
31:12
Speaker 1: deal with that, or hey, that's like my personality. I
31:15
Speaker 1: can see you know how I can be difficult that time,
31:17
Speaker 1: And so our hope was that each of us as
31:20
Speaker 1: black people, can see ourselves in it. Okay, let's let's
31:22
Speaker 1: go to the business side of this conversation because a
31:25
Speaker 1: lot of people got a good idea. This is a
31:27
Speaker 1: good idea, correct, Cody, that's a good idea. You said
31:31
Speaker 1: around and you you told other people about this good idea, right,
31:35
Speaker 1: and they kind of looked at you like you was crazy. Right. Yeah,
31:38
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. So how does a
31:41
Speaker 1: good idea that some people have told you, yeah, I
31:45
Speaker 1: get back with you, but you weren't waiting on. You
31:47
Speaker 1: got tired of waiting on to get back with you
31:49
Speaker 1: for sure? How did you take it to the next stage?
31:52
Speaker 1: Because that's what people want to hear. This is this,
31:53
Speaker 1: this is this Hollywood story that nobody they just see
31:56
Speaker 1: the final results and they also don't know that sometimes
31:59
Speaker 1: and take years to get it from the idea to
32:03
Speaker 1: this point. Correct, Yes, it does. So I would say
32:06
Speaker 1: that the first thing is just keep moving, don't wait
32:10
Speaker 1: on anybody. So there's that, and that's no matter what
32:14
Speaker 1: it is you're doing TV or building a business or
32:16
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Um And I would say that was
32:19
Speaker 1: hard for me. I just want to be completely transparent.
32:21
Speaker 1: That was hard for me, you know, because you don't
32:23
Speaker 1: make money from an idea. You don't make money building
32:27
Speaker 1: an idea. You don't make money until sometimes ever, but
32:31
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't. It doesn't turn results until much
32:34
Speaker 1: later down the line. So yeah, I'm working at box
32:37
Speaker 1: search side, I'm working at other places. I have income.
32:40
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want to stop what I'm doing to
32:43
Speaker 1: build this thing that won't yield results for a while.
32:46
Speaker 1: Um So it did take a push, um definitely from
32:48
Speaker 1: my husband when we met, to to really move things along,
32:51
Speaker 1: because this is an idea I had for a long time.
32:54
Speaker 1: So it's idea you have for a long time. How
32:58
Speaker 1: did it come about? Yeah, so around two thousand seven,
33:03
Speaker 1: the media was portraying this black marriage crisis. Holo holo, Holo,
33:07
Speaker 1: holo hold on, she said, two thousand and seven Ladies
33:10
Speaker 1: and Gentleman. It aired on on Network in September. Okay,
33:17
Speaker 1: just let you guys know that a lot of people
33:18
Speaker 1: think these journeys happen overnight. They don't understand that there's
33:23
Speaker 1: a lot of tears, there's a lot of frustrations, a
33:25
Speaker 1: lot of setback, and sometimes when you kick off the
33:28
Speaker 1: vision it's just an idea that you pitching. Continue with
33:32
Speaker 1: your story. That happened two thousand and seven, ten years
33:35
Speaker 1: Yes it did. That's when it came to me and
33:37
Speaker 1: I um with with the media portraying this black marriage crisis.
33:41
Speaker 1: It felt very as a single woman, it felt like
33:43
Speaker 1: a dire situation. It felt like the odd word getst us.
33:46
Speaker 1: The divorce rate is high. The media is telling me
33:48
Speaker 1: Black people can't stay married being married, They're getting married
33:52
Speaker 1: later in life. It's at all and other ethnicities. And
33:56
Speaker 1: right after that, the Obamas were less in the office,
33:58
Speaker 1: and everyone's going, oh, that's love, this is beautiful. They're amazing.
34:01
Speaker 1: They're so connected and perfect for each other. And we're
34:05
Speaker 1: looking at these people like and they're amazing. But we
34:09
Speaker 1: need more than just that one example. So I knew
34:12
Speaker 1: at that time I wanted to create a place where
34:14
Speaker 1: black love stories live. And the first thing that I
34:17
Speaker 1: did then was I went um because remember, my parents
34:21
Speaker 1: were divorced. I mean most of them, but that doesn't
34:23
Speaker 1: automatically mean this, but most of their friends were divorced. Like,
34:26
Speaker 1: I didn't really have examples to go to and say,
34:28
Speaker 1: can I tell your story? So I had to find
34:31
Speaker 1: couples that would share their stories with me. And so
34:33
Speaker 1: I went on a little trip um back then to
34:37
Speaker 1: collect some stories, talk to people, see what people would
34:39
Speaker 1: share with me. Um. And at that time, my idea
34:42
Speaker 1: was a coffee table book. It wasn't even a documentary. Um.
34:46
Speaker 1: So it had to evolve. And the evolution like, right now,
34:51
Speaker 1: the temple has to be married at least ten years. Correct, Yes,
34:54
Speaker 1: that was always the case. There was always together. They
34:57
Speaker 1: had to be together at least ten years because you
35:00
Speaker 1: wanted them to have experiences to draw on. They didn't
35:03
Speaker 1: have to be married that long, but they had to
35:04
Speaker 1: be together at least that amount of time. So we're
35:06
Speaker 1: really talking about what they've gone through to get where
35:08
Speaker 1: they are. So so the so, the the news story,
35:11
Speaker 1: then the Obama election, and you have this perfect African
35:16
Speaker 1: American couple sitting in the White House that inspired you
35:19
Speaker 1: to say, you know something, this story is not is normal,
35:23
Speaker 1: and we should make it normal, should not make it unique.
35:27
Speaker 1: And when you go when you went out there, now
35:29
Speaker 1: now now we're now we're moving, let me I might
35:31
Speaker 1: ask you this. Of course you do you have an
35:32
Speaker 1: agent right now? I don't, but my husband does. And
35:35
Speaker 1: full disclosure. So that was very helpful, very helpful because
35:38
Speaker 1: of because you know, that really helps. And let's asking people,
35:42
Speaker 1: I'm just using your platform because hopefully you come on
35:46
Speaker 1: my show many many times, because I want to be
35:49
Speaker 1: able to let your story be told in your brain.
35:51
Speaker 1: And you're gonna have other great projects because guess what
35:54
Speaker 1: this project was is a hit. If you if you
35:57
Speaker 1: google this is black Love, it's gonna say hit, it's
36:01
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36:04
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36:07
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36:12
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36:15
Speaker 1: of times a lot of people think they need an agent.
36:17
Speaker 1: It's really balls down to who you know in her situation,
36:21
Speaker 1: I say something to. So we actually put the whole
36:25
Speaker 1: thing together. We did all of the work without the agency,
36:28
Speaker 1: so the agency came into play when it was time
36:31
Speaker 1: to pitch, and really not even pitch. We actually shot
36:36
Speaker 1: and edited the first episode. We shot all the interviews,
36:39
Speaker 1: and we edited the full first episode, and then we
36:42
Speaker 1: did the treatment for the rest so any network that
36:45
Speaker 1: was looking at that knew exactly what it was. We
36:47
Speaker 1: had put it together. There was really no questions. You
36:50
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. It was very thorough. UM. So
36:53
Speaker 1: the agency came into play when it was like, Hey,
36:55
Speaker 1: this is what we have. Can y'all open the doors.
36:59
Speaker 1: Can y'all fitness to your network um, your various networks, um,
37:03
Speaker 1: and we'll see who wants it. So I think that's
37:06
Speaker 1: really important for your audience because, like I said, just
37:09
Speaker 1: do the work. Do the work, make it thorough. That
37:13
Speaker 1: leaves no questions unanswered before they're even asked. You have
37:18
Speaker 1: to think of what those questions are going to be,
37:20
Speaker 1: and you answer them and your proposal or whatever it
37:23
Speaker 1: is for your business, and then let people say, yeah,
37:25
Speaker 1: your name, I love it. You said a lot of things. Proposal,
37:28
Speaker 1: you said, business plan, even creatively, even in the film
37:33
Speaker 1: and TV business, there has to be a plan. And
37:37
Speaker 1: I love the fact that you understand that and you're
37:39
Speaker 1: willing to share that with my listeners and and the
37:42
Speaker 1: people who watch on my Facebook page, and also that
37:44
Speaker 1: it replays on our Heart Radio podcasts under Business Finance.
37:48
Speaker 1: And the great thing about this is that I, if
37:51
Speaker 1: you don't mind, I want to bring you back into
37:53
Speaker 1: the next break so we can talk I'm on the
37:54
Speaker 1: phone with Cody Oliver. She's the executive producer of the
37:58
Speaker 1: hit TV show on the All On network. I'm gonna
38:00
Speaker 1: keep saying it for you, Cody, the hit Black Love.
38:04
Speaker 1: She'd be right back if you want to call a
38:06
Speaker 1: three two five, five nine two. We're gonna find out
38:09
Speaker 1: more about what type of couples is she looking for?
38:12
Speaker 1: Is she focused on celebrities? Okay? What makes all these
38:15
Speaker 1: stories unique? Why would I get tired looking at Black Love?
38:18
Speaker 1: She's gonna tell us why you won't get tired and
38:20
Speaker 1: why Black Love will run forever because Cody Black is
38:24
Speaker 1: making money cool. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations. This
38:27
Speaker 1: is Rashan McDonald's the host of Money Making Conversations. It's
38:30
Speaker 1: a show that provides you with information on how you
38:33
Speaker 1: can win in your business and personal life. On the show.
38:37
Speaker 1: On the phone right now, I have the executive producer.
38:39
Speaker 1: I want to see director to director to can I
38:41
Speaker 1: at that time look to you. Cody. She's executive producer
38:44
Speaker 1: and director of the hit TV show on On called
38:48
Speaker 1: Black Love. Teen years ago. She came up with this
38:51
Speaker 1: idea in two thousand and seven and it aired on
38:54
Speaker 1: on in the month of septem It was four episodes.
38:57
Speaker 1: It's called a documentary. It's about black love from from
39:01
Speaker 1: just everyday perspective. But she wants to make sure that
39:04
Speaker 1: everybody understands not just it's not it's that they that
39:08
Speaker 1: the Obama couple that was out there was night unique.
39:13
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people dealing with these same
39:14
Speaker 1: issues and surviving and the relationship had to be together
39:18
Speaker 1: for at least ten years. They have to be married
39:21
Speaker 1: for ten years, but they had to be together for
39:22
Speaker 1: at least ten years. So with that being said, what
39:25
Speaker 1: is the moving forward? You have celebrities like you know,
39:29
Speaker 1: Grant into Maya, And was that the goal to go
39:33
Speaker 1: with celebrities just to get on TV or what's the
39:36
Speaker 1: future of black love? Sure? So, just like the four
39:39
Speaker 1: episodes that you saw, we're going to continue combining you know,
39:43
Speaker 1: celebrities and everyday people from all over the country. Um.
39:47
Speaker 1: And it was important for a couple of reasons. I
39:49
Speaker 1: would say the most important reason is that seeing these
39:53
Speaker 1: people who have a lot of money and have a
39:54
Speaker 1: lot of success and hearing them talk about their relationships,
39:58
Speaker 1: hearing them talk about how they met and realize same
40:01
Speaker 1: that we're all the same it was really important for
40:06
Speaker 1: they just got too did you got to toothpaste instead
40:08
Speaker 1: of just one? They say, got a problem? A problem? Yeah, exactly. Um.
40:12
Speaker 1: And and also that you know, for business, for television business,
40:17
Speaker 1: you have to have celebrities. So at the end of
40:19
Speaker 1: the day, it was both an important part of our
40:22
Speaker 1: show and the content of our show, but it was
40:24
Speaker 1: a necessary part of the business because that's what this
40:26
Speaker 1: show is about. I wanted to be clear about that. Okay,
40:29
Speaker 1: let's talk about this now. How is you because I'm
40:31
Speaker 1: gonna just talk real now. How do you know these
40:34
Speaker 1: famous people? Cody? You know what I'm saying. How do
40:36
Speaker 1: you get access to famous people? Cody? Yeah. So I'll
40:40
Speaker 1: say two things. Everybody, everyone that you saw in season one,
40:45
Speaker 1: because you know, we're working on season two. But everyone
40:47
Speaker 1: you saw, they did those interviews without own nobody knew.
40:51
Speaker 1: We didn't know, we didn't know that this is This
40:55
Speaker 1: is hustle magnificent. Correct. I will talk about the hustle,
41:03
Speaker 1: But I do want to give them all credit for
41:05
Speaker 1: doing this for us. They all felt like black people,
41:09
Speaker 1: we needed to see it. So they said, cool, I'll
41:11
Speaker 1: sit down, I'll share my story. Um. So there's that
41:14
Speaker 1: how did so we didn't know all of them. Um,
41:18
Speaker 1: we I was. I'm trying to think that. We moved
41:21
Speaker 1: to you and Corey. We've known them for a long
41:22
Speaker 1: time after my husband and I knew them individually before
41:25
Speaker 1: we got married. So that was just an easy ask.
41:27
Speaker 1: They said yes, and we had a great time. First
41:29
Speaker 1: of all, let me just tell you those those two
41:31
Speaker 1: people out there are amazing. They are the most nice.
41:37
Speaker 1: You almost like wanting, you know, they'd such a good couple,
41:39
Speaker 1: You almost wanting like a punch them. You know, they
41:42
Speaker 1: look good and then they love each other for real.
41:45
Speaker 1: You almost like they's successful. You know. She she sings
41:48
Speaker 1: like she talked, you know, she just she just thought
41:50
Speaker 1: she can sing about Syria. You go, is that a
41:52
Speaker 1: hit song she's singing over there? It's just cheerio. She
41:55
Speaker 1: served it to the kids. That that that right there,
42:00
Speaker 1: you started out with the with the perfect couple of niceness.
42:04
Speaker 1: They're pretty great. Absolutely. And and so here's another one.
42:08
Speaker 1: So Viola and Julius. My husband met them in a
42:12
Speaker 1: parking garage. Like we did not know them. He met
42:17
Speaker 1: them in a parking garage, came up to them and
42:19
Speaker 1: you know, started talking. They were very polite. Obviously, Julius
42:22
Speaker 1: is a Texan, so we have that work in our
42:24
Speaker 1: favorite um and a real and a real and a
42:26
Speaker 1: real person too. He is, he is and they both
42:29
Speaker 1: are a long conversation with Julius and uh, he's going
42:33
Speaker 1: to change the world him and his wife in the
42:35
Speaker 1: productive business. Yeah, absolutely, and so they were. They exchange
42:40
Speaker 1: contact information long before the Black Love conversation happened. And
42:43
Speaker 1: then when when it came up, my husband reached out
42:46
Speaker 1: and it still took months to schedule. But the point
42:48
Speaker 1: is he reached out once we had something to say.
42:51
Speaker 1: It wasn't hey, I met you in a garage. No,
42:54
Speaker 1: he waited, you know, a year from them to say, hey,
42:58
Speaker 1: let's would you guys want to do this? And they
43:00
Speaker 1: said yes right away. Um, and then it was literally
43:04
Speaker 1: like friends of friends after that, I mean Erica and
43:06
Speaker 1: Warren Campbell. Um. We had a friend introduced us to them. Um.
43:11
Speaker 1: Chris Spencerved, the comedian and creator of Real Husbands of Hollywood.
43:14
Speaker 1: He and his wife Vanessa friended them. Yeah, oh yeah,
43:19
Speaker 1: he's wonderful. They're both grade um, and so it was
43:22
Speaker 1: friends of friends. You know, we are in l A,
43:24
Speaker 1: we are in Hollywood. My husband produced The Perfect Guy
43:27
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with Sinalethan Morri's Chestnut Michael Ewe.
43:31
Speaker 1: So there are relationships that we do have you out
43:34
Speaker 1: the big names. Now, that's all right, but you're gonna
43:37
Speaker 1: have big names to get names at it. That's how
43:40
Speaker 1: you got Megan Good correct. Uh. Let me think, how
43:43
Speaker 1: did we get Magame? Um? I think so. I think
43:46
Speaker 1: the the studio relationship. No, it wasn't through the studies.
43:50
Speaker 1: He knew her. I think that they she had auditioned
43:53
Speaker 1: for something your Oh, that's right. What it was a
43:57
Speaker 1: film that we did. She had auditioned for it in
43:59
Speaker 1: the timing didn't out, but they stayed in touch. So yes,
44:03
Speaker 1: they were quick to jump on that as well. That's awesome.
44:06
Speaker 1: So tell us about the future because I'm gona asking
44:08
Speaker 1: you to tell me upcoming relationships that you have. You
44:11
Speaker 1: can't tell me those, I can't. I mean only the
44:14
Speaker 1: press release. So um, I can drop names, drop names
44:17
Speaker 1: we have granted to me a coming up. We have
44:20
Speaker 1: Tina Knowles and Richard Lawson. Um, we have. I know
44:24
Speaker 1: they're they're amazing and that that couple was really important
44:26
Speaker 1: to me because when I started this project It was
44:29
Speaker 1: somewhat about me and my friends and what we see,
44:32
Speaker 1: but it was also my mom. You know, my parents
44:34
Speaker 1: were divorced. My mom had not has not remarried, and
44:37
Speaker 1: I wanted her to see. When Tena Knowles remarried at sixty,
44:41
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to interview them because I need.
44:44
Speaker 1: I want my mother and other women and men, you know,
44:48
Speaker 1: and they're trying to get on their second marriage, you know,
44:50
Speaker 1: trying to bounce back from divorce. I want them to
44:52
Speaker 1: feel that same hope and exc A lot of people
44:55
Speaker 1: just give up at a third day. You know. That's
44:58
Speaker 1: important because I will tell, you know, people my age,
45:01
Speaker 1: I look at them and go, what age are you me?
45:04
Speaker 1: And you say, mate, no, no, no, no, you really
45:06
Speaker 1: need to go talk to somebody because you're unhealthy. You
45:09
Speaker 1: really unhealthy. And I think that I would tell people,
45:12
Speaker 1: and some people run away from getting old. I don't
45:14
Speaker 1: because I feel you have to accomplish things to get old.
45:17
Speaker 1: And and this project that you have, I'm glad you're
45:20
Speaker 1: including people from various age groups because it's important absolutely,
45:25
Speaker 1: and so obviously for those we make exceptions to the
45:28
Speaker 1: ten years because people on their second marriage observation like
45:32
Speaker 1: We've interviewed over eighty couples just to be there, and
45:34
Speaker 1: some of them are in their twenties and some of
45:35
Speaker 1: them are in their eighties and everything in between. And
45:39
Speaker 1: people on their second marriage seem to have a lot
45:42
Speaker 1: of perspective, um and and and so once you're there,
45:47
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing, you know what you're getting
45:49
Speaker 1: yourself into. So our couples that are on their second marriage,
45:52
Speaker 1: I think some of them have been married, you know,
45:54
Speaker 1: four years of them been married, you know, ten or twenties.
45:57
Speaker 1: But um, we had we made some exceptions obviously for
45:59
Speaker 1: people like Richard. Well. The thing about it is that
46:02
Speaker 1: I think about it because you get into the blended
46:04
Speaker 1: family conversation when you start talking about you know, remarriages
46:09
Speaker 1: and things like that, because something that was really important
46:12
Speaker 1: to me, and that's really really, really really important things
46:17
Speaker 1: like that. So so you have this fantastic project, you
46:19
Speaker 1: obviously have a fantastic husband. That means that your future
46:23
Speaker 1: in this business is Black Love just one of the projects.
46:27
Speaker 1: What's the next project that you have on the horizon,
46:30
Speaker 1: or you just focused on Black Love right now? Um,
46:32
Speaker 1: I am extremely focused on Black Love in part because
46:35
Speaker 1: as a director, it takes every day of me, you know,
46:39
Speaker 1: especially with editing, where editing Season two every single day.
46:42
Speaker 1: We do have a few other projects in the pipeline.
46:44
Speaker 1: Some of them could gather, some of them not together. Absolutely, Um,
46:47
Speaker 1: so we are. I'm trying to figure out what I
46:50
Speaker 1: can say. Don't don't, don't pressure yourself. The beauty I
46:55
Speaker 1: like about it is that there are so many powerful,
46:59
Speaker 1: you know, husband and wife African American production teams in Hollywood.
47:05
Speaker 1: That's that's a tremendous growing trend. Would you agree, Yeah, absolutely,
47:09
Speaker 1: And we talked to some of those couples. Hopefully will
47:11
Speaker 1: get them to sit down. DeAndre Whitfield and Sally m Richardson,
47:15
Speaker 1: you know, they both work on Clean Sugar and she's
47:18
Speaker 1: directing a lot. Hopefully we'll get them to sit down there.
47:21
Speaker 1: They've said, yes, it's just all scheduling, you know. So
47:24
Speaker 1: so to your point earlier, this can go on for
47:26
Speaker 1: a long time. And I've read a lot of amazing
47:28
Speaker 1: couples all over the country. Your idea was ten years ago.
47:32
Speaker 1: Now it's like it's on a launching pad for tremendous success.
47:37
Speaker 1: I love the fact you're the HPC person because of
47:39
Speaker 1: the fact that your whole family supported that brand and
47:43
Speaker 1: and show evidence that if you send your child to
47:46
Speaker 1: that type of educational facility, it does not diminish your
47:49
Speaker 1: opportunities in life. And that's what a lot of people
47:51
Speaker 1: will say, you go there, nobody's gonna hire you, or
47:54
Speaker 1: they might not say it that way, but the general
47:57
Speaker 1: thought is you go to a wide institution of higher
48:00
Speaker 1: learning that you will get more opportunity than going to
48:02
Speaker 1: an hbc U school of educational opportunity. You're a prime
48:06
Speaker 1: example that that's a lie and you should continue to
48:09
Speaker 1: build your brand. In closing, I want to say this, please,
48:13
Speaker 1: I'm have my PR firm send me some links so
48:16
Speaker 1: I can drive people on my Money Making Conversation Facebook page.
48:19
Speaker 1: We have with twenty six thousand followers on that along
48:22
Speaker 1: and we're gonta post it today and let people know
48:25
Speaker 1: about your your your platform and when you and when
48:28
Speaker 1: the when the new series premieres. Please lets me let
48:30
Speaker 1: me know I bring you back on the show. If
48:32
Speaker 1: you don't have time, to send us a link and
48:33
Speaker 1: we'll promote. This is about supporting. It's apported to people
48:37
Speaker 1: like you who have a brand that started from scratch
48:40
Speaker 1: and and and the end this positaneous from now. You know,
48:43
Speaker 1: we may be sitting on there and we might be
48:45
Speaker 1: the next Oprah, young lady, and I wish you all
48:48
Speaker 1: the luck of the world with your fantastic husband and
48:50
Speaker 1: do it together. Okay, thank you, thank you for I
48:53
Speaker 1: appreciate This has been Cody Oliver. She is the director
48:56
Speaker 1: and executive producer of Black Love to Hit TV series
49:00
Speaker 1: on on and she just told you it's been picked
49:02
Speaker 1: up for more shows. So keep listening. And if you
49:05
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49:08
Speaker 1: links so you can see the shows and some promos
49:11
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49:15
Speaker 1: She's the next big star, y'all. I'll be back with
49:17
Speaker 1: more information. Ra Sean McDonald Money Making Conversation. Life is good. Hi.
49:26
Speaker 1: This is ra Sean McDonald. Welcome to Money Making Conversation.
49:30
Speaker 1: I'm your host. Moneymaking Conversation is a show. It provides
49:34
Speaker 1: you with information on how to be successful in your
49:37
Speaker 1: life and in your business. If you want to talk
49:40
Speaker 1: to us, the numbers always available A three, two, zero, five,
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Speaker 1: five nine two. My next guest, she's on the line.
49:47
Speaker 1: I like people will call all time because that means
49:49
Speaker 1: they want to talk to me. My next guest is
49:51
Speaker 1: chief of staff at War, which is the Media LLC company,
49:55
Speaker 1: and she's awfull called a social media guru, is the
49:58
Speaker 1: co founder hash, a social work and social media training
50:02
Speaker 1: platform for indie artists, managers, and industry professionals. Please welcome
50:06
Speaker 1: to money making Conversations. So, Tori Ananda, how you doing?
50:14
Speaker 1: That's in your name correctly? You did? He? I gotta
50:18
Speaker 1: get it right because my name was Sean McDonald and
50:20
Speaker 1: so you know, people call the show that's here Russian,
50:23
Speaker 1: and I gotta I kinda gotta let it slide sometimes
50:26
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to just blow them out the water,
50:28
Speaker 1: go hey, my name is Sean, you know. But I
50:31
Speaker 1: am respectful because I would tell people your job in
50:34
Speaker 1: life is to get people to say your name right,
50:37
Speaker 1: and they said right. That means your brand and your
50:39
Speaker 1: marketing is working. So your social media guru, why do
50:44
Speaker 1: they give you that title? Or who gave you that title?
50:47
Speaker 1: Because that's that's a powerful time. That's a lot of
50:49
Speaker 1: responsibility to come with a title like that. So Tori,
50:53
Speaker 1: it is. And I've been called that many times the clients,
50:59
Speaker 1: friends and people online, and I guess it's number one.
51:04
Speaker 1: I find it to be so interesting the way social
51:06
Speaker 1: media marketing has taken the psychological effects of social media.
51:13
Speaker 1: And you know, for the past five or six years,
51:16
Speaker 1: I've just made it my business to understand how we
51:19
Speaker 1: interact online through our personal lives and our professional lives.
51:24
Speaker 1: And I guess that is what has resulted in me
51:26
Speaker 1: being a gurgle as they say, your guru because guess what,
51:30
Speaker 1: like you said, you didn't just jump into it, because
51:32
Speaker 1: a lot of people have just jumped into it, and
51:34
Speaker 1: then they think just posting is the just the key,
51:37
Speaker 1: and they have all the information of what you're supposed
51:41
Speaker 1: to do, but don't have the resume of what you
51:44
Speaker 1: should do. And you have the resume of what you
51:47
Speaker 1: should do because you have respected people who have called
51:50
Speaker 1: on your celebrities, business individuals who called on your services. Correct,
51:56
Speaker 1: that's right, Ericabad, You just on social media. I'm sorry, Eric,
52:03
Speaker 1: about to do is one of your clients? Correct, We're
52:05
Speaker 1: not on social media. I actually started with her um
52:09
Speaker 1: and at the Black Forest Theater. Now, let me ask
52:16
Speaker 1: you this about your your whole career. When you when
52:18
Speaker 1: we start talking about being a guru, talking about you know,
52:21
Speaker 1: branding yourself and making yourself. Uh, there's a there's a
52:26
Speaker 1: price line that you have to charge people for your services. Correct, Okay,
52:31
Speaker 1: how did you How did you develop that? Because I
52:34
Speaker 1: want people to understand that. You know, I'm gonna tell
52:36
Speaker 1: you something about me. Um My wife always telling me
52:39
Speaker 1: you under you underpriss yourself. You should charge them more,
52:43
Speaker 1: and I just tell them, look, I'm just trying to
52:44
Speaker 1: get the business right now, because once I get the business,
52:47
Speaker 1: then I can have a resume. And when I have
52:49
Speaker 1: a resume, then I could charge people more. Is that
52:52
Speaker 1: the correst philosophy to have? I yes, that is the
52:55
Speaker 1: way that it generally works in almost any business. As
53:00
Speaker 1: you're first starting out and you don't have as much
53:03
Speaker 1: of a clientele or experience, that may be valuable to
53:08
Speaker 1: somebody who's willing to pay for you. That doesn't mean
53:10
Speaker 1: that you're not an expert at it, an expert at it,
53:13
Speaker 1: but they want to see the experience and the proven work.
53:17
Speaker 1: So your first you know, times that you're charging for
53:20
Speaker 1: things have to to your experience, and as you grow
53:24
Speaker 1: in your fields, and as you become more experienced and
53:27
Speaker 1: have more of a resume, as you say, then your
53:30
Speaker 1: price can increase because your value increases. Not only are
53:34
Speaker 1: you doing the work, but your brand name is something
53:37
Speaker 1: somebody they want to be associated with. You know, I
53:40
Speaker 1: have a lot of people that take pride in saying
53:42
Speaker 1: that they're one of my clients. Oh, I work with
53:44
Speaker 1: Satria SATORI does this for me only Satria handles. You know,
53:48
Speaker 1: this part of my business. So that part of my business.
53:50
Speaker 1: So my name itself also has value for them, not
53:55
Speaker 1: just the service that I provide. So I'm able to
53:57
Speaker 1: charge according to the value. Okay, cool. Let me let
54:01
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Now, if somebody came to you,
54:03
Speaker 1: do you have a rate sheet or it's based on
54:05
Speaker 1: the conversation. It's based on the conversation, But there is
54:09
Speaker 1: a rate sheet that exists somewhere to start, because if
54:14
Speaker 1: you don't know where you're starting, you're going to the
54:19
Speaker 1: number one outbid yourself because you're charging too high and
54:22
Speaker 1: it doesn't match up with the industry prices that you're in,
54:26
Speaker 1: or you're going to underbaid yourself. So you do to
54:30
Speaker 1: have a price sheet for yourself. But I don't pass
54:33
Speaker 1: out price sheets to clients. We always have a conversation
54:37
Speaker 1: for us. I find out what their needs are and
54:40
Speaker 1: a lot of UM social media clients needs are very
54:43
Speaker 1: individuals depending on what their goals are. So once we
54:46
Speaker 1: determine the goals and you know, what is it that
54:50
Speaker 1: they're actually going to want for me and what can
54:52
Speaker 1: I do for them, then we work on different prices
54:54
Speaker 1: depending on that. Okay, with that being saying, let me
54:57
Speaker 1: ask you this question about social media, and believe me,
55:01
Speaker 1: all the questions I'm asking is just to give people
55:03
Speaker 1: information so they can understand your brand and also hopefully
55:06
Speaker 1: contact you and maybe get some additional customer because we
55:09
Speaker 1: all want more customers. That's the bottom line. We want
55:13
Speaker 1: to be busy, busy, busy, busy. Now the interesting what
55:17
Speaker 1: is the worst thing most that that I shouldn't say
55:20
Speaker 1: the worst thing that what is the most um? Because people,
55:23
Speaker 1: you know, they see these celebrities, you know, forty million,
55:26
Speaker 1: ten million, you know, you know all these numbers out there.
55:30
Speaker 1: Does that give people a false sense of how fast
55:33
Speaker 1: or how quickly they can grow in social media? Yeah?
55:37
Speaker 1: It does sometimes, So Number one, we want to compare ourselves.
55:41
Speaker 1: It was top of the line all of the time.
55:43
Speaker 1: Whenever that isn't where you are. UM, one of my
55:47
Speaker 1: business Partners always says you have to shoot from where
55:49
Speaker 1: you stand. You're not gonna get forty million listeners when
55:54
Speaker 1: you have a clientel base of forty or reach of
55:57
Speaker 1: four hundred. You know, those are these are artists that
56:01
Speaker 1: have entire machines behind them, that have advertising dollars that
56:05
Speaker 1: the average entrepreneur or small business owner could never match.
56:10
Speaker 1: And um, a lot of the numbers are sometimes inflated
56:13
Speaker 1: as well, so you're a lot of people are comparing
56:17
Speaker 1: their real life numbers to inflated information as well. But
56:22
Speaker 1: the most important thing is if you're a business and
56:24
Speaker 1: you're trying to reach people on social media, you you
56:29
Speaker 1: want to reach people who are really going to be
56:31
Speaker 1: interested in your business. It's not so much about the
56:34
Speaker 1: number of people, but the quality of people that are responding. Engagement,
56:38
Speaker 1: that's the key, right, Engagement, the most important thing. Yeah,
56:41
Speaker 1: because that's that's that's the number one thing, is the
56:44
Speaker 1: engagement if you posted the picture. And that's why I
56:47
Speaker 1: was just talking about earlier when I was on the
56:48
Speaker 1: phone with Chila Coach, we was just talking about marketing
56:51
Speaker 1: and branding. Is that a lot of people just got
56:54
Speaker 1: there doing silly stuff, posting videos. They getting engagement, but
56:58
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with their brain and that's
57:01
Speaker 1: really really crazy. And I also bring up a point
57:04
Speaker 1: that I've told people about. You know, I've managed Steve
57:07
Speaker 1: Harvor for fifteen years, so I know that when you're
57:09
Speaker 1: in that talent pool is that people are like you.
57:12
Speaker 1: If you they like your jokes, they like you or
57:15
Speaker 1: follow you. If they like your song, they like you,
57:18
Speaker 1: follow you if they like your your movie you in
57:20
Speaker 1: or your television series. So that's know that that's that's
57:24
Speaker 1: very significant and understanding their popularity in the social media world.
57:29
Speaker 1: When you when you're an individual, that's when the whole
57:32
Speaker 1: who you are and who you're talking to comes into
57:35
Speaker 1: play and the engagement correct exactly right. You know, you
57:40
Speaker 1: want to have the people who are interested in what
57:43
Speaker 1: you're doing and possibly to turn into customers, clients, or
57:47
Speaker 1: an audience that matters. You can have a video that
57:50
Speaker 1: has a whole bunch of likes and whatever it was
57:54
Speaker 1: the feeling that the video gave them encourage them to
57:58
Speaker 1: like it. Like there's there's no returning investment. It doesn't
58:01
Speaker 1: really benefit you in any kind of way you want to.
58:04
Speaker 1: If you're if you're a hairstylist, for instance, and you're
58:06
Speaker 1: using social media to post some of your client results,
58:11
Speaker 1: you are more interested in people in your surrounding area
58:15
Speaker 1: being engaged in your posts than just overall people being
58:19
Speaker 1: excited about what they see your Your goals would be
58:23
Speaker 1: specific to your market area. So you may have less
58:28
Speaker 1: um likes and views and you know somebody else, but
58:32
Speaker 1: if those people are in your area and could become
58:34
Speaker 1: potential clients, that's much more important. Cool. Now, my next
58:39
Speaker 1: question is do you said it earlier? A lot of people.
58:42
Speaker 1: You get a lot of your your your your business
58:44
Speaker 1: or some of your business from people word of mouth.
58:47
Speaker 1: You know, she's awesome. If you're trying to get into
58:49
Speaker 1: social media, somebody want to build your brain, she don't
58:51
Speaker 1: want to turn to. Do you market yourself? Do you
58:54
Speaker 1: go out and if you market yourself, what lanes do
58:57
Speaker 1: you use for market other than social media? Or is
59:00
Speaker 1: all social media? Not? Definitely, not at all. There is
59:03
Speaker 1: no campaign that is successful with media only ever, that's
59:08
Speaker 1: people have turned to that and that's a lazy marketing plan.
59:12
Speaker 1: You still have to repeat that one more time, that
59:17
Speaker 1: one more time. Now it's only doing social media. That's
59:20
Speaker 1: a lazy marketing plan. It takes much more than just
59:22
Speaker 1: social media. Why is it a lazy marketing plan because
59:28
Speaker 1: people are just posting and thinking that's enough. They're not
59:30
Speaker 1: actually trying to go out and still do physical marketing,
59:33
Speaker 1: guerilla marketing, appearances, you know, being present in places that
59:39
Speaker 1: your industry other professionals are. A marketing plan is a
59:44
Speaker 1: multi tiered process and social media marketing. Social media marketing
59:50
Speaker 1: is only one part of your overall marketing. And for
59:54
Speaker 1: myself that's the truth to social media marketing is a
59:58
Speaker 1: large part of what I do. But in addition, I panels,
1:00:02
Speaker 1: I go to events and many other people. I passed
1:00:04
Speaker 1: out my business card, I get email addresses. I would
1:00:08
Speaker 1: see my email list is my most important marketing from
1:00:12
Speaker 1: myself and my business. That's that's so so a lot
1:00:16
Speaker 1: of people they just jump on it because it's free.
1:00:18
Speaker 1: In a sense, it is free, but you know you
1:00:20
Speaker 1: can't boost and give your further reach. But sometimes when
1:00:23
Speaker 1: you're reaching, you don't know who you're reaching. So that
1:00:25
Speaker 1: that five or ten or fifteen dollars that you could
1:00:28
Speaker 1: pay to get anywhere from two to additional ten thousand
1:00:32
Speaker 1: people depending on how many people have liked your page,
1:00:35
Speaker 1: or if you don't have enough people liking your page,
1:00:37
Speaker 1: it means you're extended beyond your your friends and family likes, right,
1:00:42
Speaker 1: And that's that's really important when we're talking like this
1:00:44
Speaker 1: because of the fact that here you are an expert
1:00:48
Speaker 1: in it, your your your social media guru. You're telling people,
1:00:52
Speaker 1: don't just define your whole business, all your entertainment career,
1:00:56
Speaker 1: all your personal lifestyle that you're trying to brand the
1:00:59
Speaker 1: market on just social media, because everybody that's that's the way.
1:01:03
Speaker 1: What is the future of social media? Then? What is
1:01:06
Speaker 1: the future? Then? Are we overwhelming a system? Are we
1:01:10
Speaker 1: are we making a system so generic that it has
1:01:12
Speaker 1: no value? What is the future of social media? Then?
1:01:16
Speaker 1: The future social media is actually really great. Um. We're
1:01:18
Speaker 1: actually changing the way we interact as humans. Some people,
1:01:22
Speaker 1: um are to be discouraged by it, but we're becoming
1:01:26
Speaker 1: less and less petically interacting society. And we'll see that
1:01:31
Speaker 1: happening less and less with virtual reality and augmented reality
1:01:34
Speaker 1: becoming part of social media. For instance, the way people
1:01:37
Speaker 1: are listening to this program right now. Maybe in the
1:01:40
Speaker 1: past it would have been a radio program or even
1:01:42
Speaker 1: a podcast, but now they're able to participate live through
1:01:46
Speaker 1: their social media, all TV, anything that we do um
1:01:51
Speaker 1: now that separate from social media will find it to
1:01:54
Speaker 1: be part of social media original content. You can watch
1:01:57
Speaker 1: your NFL on social media now. And that's why I
1:02:00
Speaker 1: tell people it is great for marketing because most small
1:02:03
Speaker 1: businesses and entrepreneurs could never pay for an advertisement during
1:02:08
Speaker 1: a football game, but social media marketing aroused for you
1:02:12
Speaker 1: to be advertising during that time period when people are
1:02:15
Speaker 1: watching the most important things to them. But we'll see
1:02:19
Speaker 1: more engagement of virtual reality and augmented reality as we
1:02:24
Speaker 1: move forward. And additionally, I want to add it Mark
1:02:28
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg has said we will be able to think our
1:02:31
Speaker 1: status is onto Facebook in the future. Wow. Now, we
1:02:35
Speaker 1: want to bring you back for one more break so
1:02:37
Speaker 1: because you felt like you but you trying to wrap
1:02:39
Speaker 1: up on me there. You know you have that wrap
1:02:42
Speaker 1: up voice, you know, like I gotta go, I gotta go,
1:02:46
Speaker 1: I got things to do. Rashan, Okay, I've got talking
1:02:49
Speaker 1: to you. Well, we're gonna be back because I want
1:02:51
Speaker 1: to I want to know more about your hashtag social work.
1:02:54
Speaker 1: I also want to know about that the your your
1:02:57
Speaker 1: methodology that's in the correct you're playing. Let me just
1:03:01
Speaker 1: break it down. You're playing your plan for success and uh, fantastic.
1:03:06
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling them show. We'll be right back
1:03:07
Speaker 1: with more money Making Conversation A three two, five, five
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1:03:14
Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing this show to give you
1:03:16
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1:03:19
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1:03:23
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1:03:28
Speaker 1: to Hi. This ra Sean McDonald, the host of Money
1:03:31
Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Money Making Conversations to show that provides you
1:03:35
Speaker 1: information on how you can win in business and in
1:03:38
Speaker 1: your life. I am on the phone right now with
1:03:41
Speaker 1: the the co found of hashtag social Work, Satoria Hernanda.
1:03:48
Speaker 1: I gotta correct again. Dinner cool, awesome, Well good. I
1:03:53
Speaker 1: want to make sure I brought you back because I
1:03:55
Speaker 1: want to talk about the actual company itself. We talked
1:03:57
Speaker 1: about a lot of things. We talked about your vision
1:03:59
Speaker 1: with talk about the brand and the whole work. What
1:04:02
Speaker 1: it actually is social Work. We are a social media
1:04:06
Speaker 1: coaching and training company. We provide classes all over the country.
1:04:11
Speaker 1: When people fly us in and ask us to hold
1:04:14
Speaker 1: classes for different industry events. They fly y'all in, They
1:04:19
Speaker 1: fly y'all in. Yes, oh lord, you big time, you
1:04:22
Speaker 1: big time. Come on, continue, continue with the story. Yes,
1:04:25
Speaker 1: and we hold classes as well locally in Dallas. We
1:04:29
Speaker 1: do online seminars and people hire us for one on
1:04:33
Speaker 1: one consultations. And what we tend to do generally is
1:04:37
Speaker 1: set up a strategy for companies, entrepreneurs and individuals of
1:04:41
Speaker 1: how to get to their goals of their social media marketing.
1:04:46
Speaker 1: Who are they trying to reach? How many people are
1:04:49
Speaker 1: they trying to reach? What is the return for that investment?
1:04:52
Speaker 1: You know? Are they just trying to showcase products? Do
1:04:55
Speaker 1: they want to showcase their company messaging? You know, we
1:04:59
Speaker 1: we we've to get that out for them, and we
1:05:01
Speaker 1: teach them how to do it themselves. I'm not a
1:05:03
Speaker 1: social media manager, which is a whole different type of person.
1:05:07
Speaker 1: That's a that's a different type of person. Correct it is. Yes,
1:05:11
Speaker 1: there's day to day post and all that. Correct, And
1:05:13
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna slow it down for people when they
1:05:14
Speaker 1: hear that. You're saying, Look what I'm not going to
1:05:17
Speaker 1: be responsive for posting, you know, two or three posts
1:05:21
Speaker 1: to day on your Twitter feed or your face repeat
1:05:23
Speaker 1: or your Instagram Instagram account. That's not what you do, correct,
1:05:28
Speaker 1: that is not what I do. Now, I provide their
1:05:29
Speaker 1: strategy and help them um. Also, we create content for
1:05:34
Speaker 1: companies as well. So let's say that part of their
1:05:36
Speaker 1: strategy and everyone's strategy should include a video component. Will
1:05:41
Speaker 1: help them create videos and different interactions so that their
1:05:45
Speaker 1: Instagram stories or Facebook videos and Twitter videos are quality
1:05:49
Speaker 1: content and keep with in line with their brand messaging.
1:05:53
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, isn't it important to be
1:05:55
Speaker 1: consistent with that message? A lot of people want to
1:05:58
Speaker 1: just I'm just I'm just moving to every day people
1:06:00
Speaker 1: because everybody wants that viral video. Everybody think that that's
1:06:04
Speaker 1: that viral video is going to change your life, and
1:06:07
Speaker 1: that's not the case. What what should people be doing
1:06:10
Speaker 1: when when you talk about content, what should they be
1:06:13
Speaker 1: doing the most important content? And again, psychology has a
1:06:17
Speaker 1: lot to do with social media. We're all on social
1:06:19
Speaker 1: media for the same reasons. We want to be heard,
1:06:21
Speaker 1: we want to be expressed, and we want to um
1:06:24
Speaker 1: engage with other people. That's from every walk of life,
1:06:27
Speaker 1: including your personal reasons that your online all the way
1:06:30
Speaker 1: to your professional reasons. So your content wants to speak
1:06:34
Speaker 1: to the human interaction, anything that's funny, anything that brings emotion,
1:06:39
Speaker 1: like sadness unfortunately, and you know often even horror. Those
1:06:45
Speaker 1: are the things that people are most attracted to. So
1:06:49
Speaker 1: your content, it should stay within brand, but you want
1:06:53
Speaker 1: to reach the human emotions if you're wanting the most engagement.
1:06:57
Speaker 1: So people who UM start videos with like long intros
1:07:02
Speaker 1: or a bunch of words, you're gonna lose people before
1:07:04
Speaker 1: it ever get to the part you want them to see.
1:07:07
Speaker 1: How long is your sixty seconds? Two seconds is appropriate
1:07:11
Speaker 1: for Facebook and UM Instagram, Instagram, but people we really
1:07:16
Speaker 1: like and will we turn the crow vignettes. So if
1:07:21
Speaker 1: you can get your information across even shorter, people's attention
1:07:25
Speaker 1: span is about thirty seconds for the most ten viewings.
1:07:29
Speaker 1: So you gotta get in there, and you gotta start
1:07:31
Speaker 1: the video off with you gotta scare, make them cry,
1:07:35
Speaker 1: and then they watch you make laugh, scare, make him
1:07:41
Speaker 1: laugh and then to cry. All the all three of
1:07:43
Speaker 1: those emotionals start flying. You gotta viral video. It's funny
1:07:47
Speaker 1: because you said earlier about the different platforms. For instance,
1:07:50
Speaker 1: I market my money making conversation on my Facebook page.
1:07:54
Speaker 1: I market my money making conversation on my heart radio podcasts,
1:07:59
Speaker 1: and I market my mon to make conversation on my
1:08:01
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Facebook page which has two followers, and
1:08:06
Speaker 1: my Twitter account which has over five thousand followers. So
1:08:09
Speaker 1: I'm making that shift to like really building that brand
1:08:12
Speaker 1: out because it really it has to become a consistent
1:08:15
Speaker 1: layer of identification. I can keep it on my Facebook
1:08:18
Speaker 1: page of my fan page Rishan McDonald which has over
1:08:20
Speaker 1: tixtar thousand Facebook page. But that feels like that's miss
1:08:23
Speaker 1: messaging and you're just saying there has to be a
1:08:25
Speaker 1: consistency with your voice. Correct. You just have to be
1:08:29
Speaker 1: a consistency with your voice. And also you have to
1:08:31
Speaker 1: remember that you can't force people to come where you are.
1:08:34
Speaker 1: You are? What does that mean? Okay, okay, okay, kind
1:08:37
Speaker 1: of kind of got me there. What does that mean?
1:08:39
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Because I may be doing something
1:08:41
Speaker 1: wrong and you you actually right? Okay? Cool? Having your
1:08:45
Speaker 1: content in various locations right. Um, For instance, when you
1:08:49
Speaker 1: go to a four way stop, there may be given eleven,
1:08:52
Speaker 1: a Taxico and Exxon and a Shell. Right, We're still
1:08:56
Speaker 1: need gas, but people stop at different stores for different reasons.
1:09:00
Speaker 1: One may just be because of convenience, it's the closest
1:09:02
Speaker 1: one to them. Other people may have had bad experience
1:09:05
Speaker 1: with another brand and saying with a social platform. Other
1:09:08
Speaker 1: people may just be comfortable only going to you know,
1:09:11
Speaker 1: one store. But there's different reasons that we visit different things,
1:09:14
Speaker 1: and that's the same. Yeah. Um, some people aren't on
1:09:17
Speaker 1: Facebook for whatever reason they've chosen out to be there.
1:09:20
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you don't want to reach them just
1:09:22
Speaker 1: because they're only on Twitter and Instagram is the same,
1:09:25
Speaker 1: you know, way people they're on different platforms for different reasons.
1:09:29
Speaker 1: And one other thing I would like to point out
1:09:31
Speaker 1: to people. The reason I say email is the most
1:09:33
Speaker 1: important part of your social campaign is because if you
1:09:37
Speaker 1: think about the Old Times Square or Main Square, that
1:09:40
Speaker 1: town square at noon, a lot of people may be there.
1:09:45
Speaker 1: Everybody in the city isn't there, though they may you know,
1:09:49
Speaker 1: be crossing by. But if you yell out something, there's
1:09:51
Speaker 1: only a few people that are going to get to
1:09:53
Speaker 1: hear your message. And social media is like that. You're
1:09:56
Speaker 1: never going to reach all of your followers at the
1:09:58
Speaker 1: same time. The system is only allow to reach a
1:10:03
Speaker 1: certain portion of who follows you. That is the setup
1:10:06
Speaker 1: that algorithms are set, you're not going to be able
1:10:08
Speaker 1: to change that. But when you have someone's email address,
1:10:12
Speaker 1: instead of just shouting in times square, you're actually ringing
1:10:15
Speaker 1: the doorbell. And that's a whole different way of reaching people. Here.
1:10:19
Speaker 1: You're good, You're good, You're good. You know you know,
1:10:22
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a seminar right now because
1:10:24
Speaker 1: you know you're not breaking stride or anything. You're saying.
1:10:27
Speaker 1: You are articulate, you know, you're taking up, you're pausing
1:10:30
Speaker 1: at the right time so I can deliver that that
1:10:32
Speaker 1: killer terminology. WHOA Well, you just hit me with email
1:10:37
Speaker 1: is like ringing a doorbell. Now you know that straight
1:10:40
Speaker 1: out your seminar, straight out your seminar. R whole power
1:10:45
Speaker 1: point with that come. That was brilliant. It was too
1:10:48
Speaker 1: brilliant because You've always with these catch phrases, but I've
1:10:51
Speaker 1: never heard that. I've said, I've called this phrase that
1:10:54
Speaker 1: the social media is your own personal press conference. Now
1:10:57
Speaker 1: I've called that statement. And that's so I know when
1:11:01
Speaker 1: people go, Wow, that's pretty that's pretty powerful. Like that,
1:11:05
Speaker 1: that's pretty powerful, I said, yeah, because that's why you
1:11:07
Speaker 1: don't see people calling press conference in the way because
1:11:09
Speaker 1: they just go to social media. And you know, uh,
1:11:11
Speaker 1: President Trump is a prime example. Yes, and so that
1:11:17
Speaker 1: means that the people are now taking control of how
1:11:20
Speaker 1: they market themselves and how they brand themselves through social media. Now,
1:11:24
Speaker 1: how can we reach you? How can we reach this articulate,
1:11:28
Speaker 1: this co founder of social works who's changing the right
1:11:31
Speaker 1: in the world. Because you're managing, you're not posting. And
1:11:34
Speaker 1: that's very key for me to tell you. Tell people
1:11:36
Speaker 1: that because a lot of people out there confused to
1:11:38
Speaker 1: too that she's not posting anything for you. Well, she's
1:11:41
Speaker 1: gonna tell you how to be successful and give you
1:11:44
Speaker 1: a plan to win in social media. Correct, this is correct?
1:11:48
Speaker 1: So how do they reach you? To fish? Um, you
1:11:52
Speaker 1: can reach me online on any social media at satry
1:11:56
Speaker 1: s a t R I zero six, reach me through email.
1:12:01
Speaker 1: You mean there's another story out there. I just like
1:12:07
Speaker 1: the number. Okay, I'm about to say whole of that.
1:12:10
Speaker 1: Come on, No, this ain't sandingero six and um, you
1:12:15
Speaker 1: can reach me on email if you want to talk
1:12:17
Speaker 1: about your social media needs at social work and work
1:12:21
Speaker 1: is spelled with an e ink at gmail dot com.
1:12:27
Speaker 1: And that that that that makes it happ when they
1:12:29
Speaker 1: when they contact you and also I want you to
1:12:31
Speaker 1: give me information. I can post it on the Money
1:12:33
Speaker 1: Making Conversation Facebook page because right now I'm just trying
1:12:36
Speaker 1: to create the world of engagement. So we create a
1:12:39
Speaker 1: source there's primarily geared towards young entrepreneurs who and every
1:12:44
Speaker 1: word entrepreneurship people confused strictly with business, and it's really
1:12:48
Speaker 1: about life. It's about taking you. Am I correct when
1:12:51
Speaker 1: I say that? Yeah? So right, when you're an entrepreneur,
1:12:54
Speaker 1: this is this is what you do, this is who
1:12:56
Speaker 1: you are. If you don't just clock in, this is
1:12:59
Speaker 1: your and that a lot of people they run from that.
1:13:03
Speaker 1: And that's why I know I'm I'm building a brand
1:13:06
Speaker 1: with my brand of social money Making Conversation because I'm
1:13:09
Speaker 1: trying to create that breakthrough. Because when I talk talking
1:13:11
Speaker 1: about small business, I know I get tuned out. Oh
1:13:14
Speaker 1: he ain't talking to me. I am talking to you.
1:13:16
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you as an individual. Because what what
1:13:19
Speaker 1: annoys me the most is that when people clock in
1:13:22
Speaker 1: for work, they don't even see themselves as a business.
1:13:24
Speaker 1: They only see themselves as an employee. And that's not true.
1:13:28
Speaker 1: You can build your brand and build your career because
1:13:30
Speaker 1: I did it. I've worked at IBM. I know what
1:13:33
Speaker 1: I did as an employee, how I built my brand
1:13:36
Speaker 1: and built my and marketed the way I wanted to
1:13:38
Speaker 1: do with the company, and that's how I rose through
1:13:41
Speaker 1: the ranks. That's why I was a star at IBM.
1:13:43
Speaker 1: And and that took those same principles and I apply
1:13:46
Speaker 1: them to my everyday life. And so I'm just trying
1:13:48
Speaker 1: to get everyday people to understand you can win, and
1:13:51
Speaker 1: you can win big time, and you're showing yourself that, hey,
1:13:54
Speaker 1: look I got skills, I got talents, and now people
1:13:58
Speaker 1: are flying me around. What what and and close it?
1:14:02
Speaker 1: What makes you feel so good about the life that
1:14:05
Speaker 1: you live right now? Tori? Email it, and I hope
1:14:08
Speaker 1: there are young entrepreneurs listening because I quit school at
1:14:12
Speaker 1: age fourteen and had two children before two children before
1:14:16
Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old, and at some point I
1:14:19
Speaker 1: decided that I wanted something different for my children than
1:14:22
Speaker 1: I have for myself, and that's the driving force for
1:14:25
Speaker 1: me in my business and wanting to be successful and
1:14:29
Speaker 1: be a good life guide for them. And that same
1:14:31
Speaker 1: thing has what brought me to helping other young people
1:14:35
Speaker 1: with their businesses today and realizing that you know, there's
1:14:39
Speaker 1: not one path to success. You have your all path
1:14:43
Speaker 1: and you know what, a lot of times it changes
1:14:45
Speaker 1: along the way. And that's okay too, as long as
1:14:48
Speaker 1: you get back for yourself. And as you were saying,
1:14:52
Speaker 1: working for corporate Corporate America is great training for anything
1:14:56
Speaker 1: in life that you made. So never look down at yourself.
1:14:59
Speaker 1: If you're working somebody else, why you're also working on
1:15:02
Speaker 1: your need and for yourself. And you know resumes today
1:15:08
Speaker 1: you're supposed to put a personal brand statement on there.
1:15:11
Speaker 1: So you have to figure out who you are, what
1:15:13
Speaker 1: you want, and where you're going in any walk of life.
1:15:16
Speaker 1: And I think the thing that makes me the most
1:15:18
Speaker 1: happy about being a business owner and being successful being
1:15:24
Speaker 1: able to help other people advance their dreams and their
1:15:27
Speaker 1: goals and get their business growing, you know, through social
1:15:31
Speaker 1: media and through strategy, and I mean, I love it.
1:15:34
Speaker 1: It's a it's an awesome opportunity whatever to keep winning,
1:15:37
Speaker 1: your keep winning. I hope I can, I hope I
1:15:40
Speaker 1: can invite you back. I hope this was a great
1:15:42
Speaker 1: experience for you. So your energy is amazing. I'll definitely
1:15:45
Speaker 1: be tuning into some of the other people that you
1:15:46
Speaker 1: have on on your show this. This is a brand
1:15:50
Speaker 1: that and it takes people like you who have to
1:15:52
Speaker 1: take the time and deliver the message because I know
1:15:54
Speaker 1: I'm building something unique here and it's through relationships they
1:15:58
Speaker 1: get you there, and you are talent, young lady. And
1:16:02
Speaker 1: I want to tell that other story that you just
1:16:04
Speaker 1: kind of like broke the news to me at the
1:16:06
Speaker 1: n end, and I don't have no minutes to talk
1:16:07
Speaker 1: because you know, I'll be all over that story because
1:16:10
Speaker 1: so many people allow those setbacks to change their lives
1:16:14
Speaker 1: and they never get back on track. And you got
1:16:16
Speaker 1: back on track, not only as a as a as
1:16:19
Speaker 1: a as a fantastic parent, but you got no track
1:16:22
Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur and you've got them back on check
1:16:24
Speaker 1: as a leader. And that's amazing. Besides the fact that
1:16:28
Speaker 1: you know, when you show it for the PTA meet,
1:16:29
Speaker 1: you define his mom in class, of course, but ourselves
1:16:36
Speaker 1: will always be Okay, you stay strong, and I appreciate you.
1:16:39
Speaker 1: SA Tori zero six Okay, that's her because she's like
1:16:42
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1:17:05
Speaker 1: just with Sean McDonald. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations.
1:17:09
Speaker 1: This is a show for you, guys. It's a show
1:17:11
Speaker 1: that provides you with information on how to win in
1:17:14
Speaker 1: your personal and business. It's a career opportunity, it's a
1:17:18
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1:17:21
Speaker 1: right now, so I gotta get on the phone and
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Speaker 1: hopefully not missing not she here her name. If it's
1:17:26
Speaker 1: incorrectly stated, please correct me when I bring it up.
1:17:29
Speaker 1: My next guest and the stut businesswoman who unapologetically pursues
1:17:33
Speaker 1: excellence in all she does. My leak Till is on
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Speaker 1: the founder and chief experienced officer of curl Box, the
1:17:41
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1:17:45
Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations, My leak Till. How you doing that?
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Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you good? I said your name
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1:17:59
Speaker 1: how No, no, no, no no, no, Rushawn McDonald, you
1:18:03
Speaker 1: know I'm saying if people call me Russian a rock.
1:18:07
Speaker 1: You know, I said, hey, hey, hey, look at say
1:18:09
Speaker 1: my name right, because that's part of your brain, you know,
1:18:12
Speaker 1: when you because you don't wanna be introduced in front
1:18:15
Speaker 1: of ten thousand people when somebody say, Mila, you know
1:18:17
Speaker 1: what you want to do, right, you gonna gonna change
1:18:20
Speaker 1: the way you walk, It's gonna change where you speak
1:18:23
Speaker 1: because you have to correct. Everybody gonna throw your whole
1:18:26
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1:18:30
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1:18:32
Speaker 1: now on, it is my leak till mine with the
1:18:36
Speaker 1: emphasis on my my exactly great girl, box, Yes, girl,
1:18:45
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm tell you something that's
1:18:47
Speaker 1: a visionary move to create a monthly subscription service. You
1:18:50
Speaker 1: know that, right? Yeah. I think in my naivete I
1:18:56
Speaker 1: created it, not knowing how difficult it would be. But
1:18:59
Speaker 1: I mean now that it's done, it's amazing. Okay. Co
1:19:04
Speaker 1: two things happening. When did you launch it? Okay, because
1:19:07
Speaker 1: that's a launch, and then there's worked to the launch. Correct? Correct? Okay? Cool?
1:19:12
Speaker 1: When did you launch? When did you launch? I did
1:19:14
Speaker 1: a soft launch November twenty eleven, so I had no products,
1:19:20
Speaker 1: no boxes, and I said, you know what I'm going
1:19:22
Speaker 1: to I sent out a press release to Essence magazine
1:19:25
Speaker 1: and I said, I'm gonna have them. Yeah, I'm gonna
1:19:31
Speaker 1: have them put this out online. So they released it
1:19:34
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock online about this new business in this
1:19:37
Speaker 1: new company that was going to be opening at midnight.
1:19:40
Speaker 1: And I said, Okay, if I get enough people find up,
1:19:42
Speaker 1: I'll continue if I don't out quit. And I think
1:19:46
Speaker 1: we had a thousand people sign up like the first
1:19:49
Speaker 1: hour after midnight, and they just kept going by the thousand.
1:19:53
Speaker 1: So then I said, oh shoot, I gotta you just
1:19:56
Speaker 1: say on shoot, but we're gonna work at for radio purpose.
1:19:58
Speaker 1: You gonna say oh shoot? Right, I said, now I
1:20:01
Speaker 1: gotta get some products and some boxes because I think
1:20:04
Speaker 1: people want this. Now here's the it's the fun part
1:20:08
Speaker 1: about it, because see this is an idea. How many
1:20:11
Speaker 1: people told you you were crazy? Oh my god. Everybody
1:20:15
Speaker 1: everybody was like, how are you going to do this?
1:20:17
Speaker 1: You don't even know how to do it. You don't
1:20:19
Speaker 1: have any products, you don't have any boxes. And I said,
1:20:21
Speaker 1: as long as airplanes are flying in the sky, I
1:20:24
Speaker 1: can do this. Like people have figured out crazy you're
1:20:27
Speaker 1: saying then, and guess what, and guess what the thing
1:20:30
Speaker 1: about it is that this is like a like like
1:20:33
Speaker 1: the last three or four years, you've seen a lot
1:20:37
Speaker 1: of this monthly subscription where you are you pay nine
1:20:41
Speaker 1: nine nine and every month you get a box with
1:20:45
Speaker 1: product and correct, that's what you're talking about, right, right, right, yes,
1:20:49
Speaker 1: And we started almost six years ago doing that absolutely,
1:20:52
Speaker 1: And so what I'm saying is that that's why I
1:20:54
Speaker 1: started out with the word visionary, Okay, because everybody basically
1:20:58
Speaker 1: is emulating what you've done, and from a corporate standpoint,
1:21:02
Speaker 1: they're coming in with the big dollars, you know, coming in,
1:21:04
Speaker 1: big reporations are doing it. Now. You started out a
1:21:07
Speaker 1: little African American girl. I f I'm a track star, undefeated.
1:21:13
Speaker 1: You know, I ain't never lost in track now already
1:21:18
Speaker 1: your competitor, correct, correct, very So that means that when
1:21:22
Speaker 1: you when people were telling you, you know, what made
1:21:27
Speaker 1: you go beyond their no? You know, I always say
1:21:32
Speaker 1: that if somebody tells me no, they don't have enough information, right,
1:21:36
Speaker 1: it's either they don't have I haven't given them enough information,
1:21:39
Speaker 1: or they're telling me not yet. So I was met
1:21:42
Speaker 1: with a ton of nose. But I said to myself,
1:21:45
Speaker 1: there's only twelve months in the year they're over. At
1:21:48
Speaker 1: the time, they were over six hundred hair care brands,
1:21:51
Speaker 1: and I was like, I have to be able to
1:21:52
Speaker 1: at least get twelve yes is out of six hundred.
1:21:55
Speaker 1: I have to So so I did. But when I
1:21:58
Speaker 1: heard no, I was ever angry. You know, I just said, Okay,
1:22:02
Speaker 1: they just they need more information. They want to see
1:22:05
Speaker 1: what I can do. So now I've got to show
1:22:07
Speaker 1: improve right right, So so let's let's start back now,
1:22:10
Speaker 1: because see, um, let's talk about your life. You know,
1:22:14
Speaker 1: you know, where were you at in your life, you know, professionally,
1:22:18
Speaker 1: were you like looking for the next big thing? All
1:22:21
Speaker 1: you said, I'm gonna put on effort into this endeavor.
1:22:25
Speaker 1: I'm pumping my own personal money into this. Who was
1:22:28
Speaker 1: standing with you? You know when you who was standing
1:22:31
Speaker 1: with you there? You know I had I was. I
1:22:35
Speaker 1: started off in entertainment pr and I moved to Atlanta
1:22:38
Speaker 1: and at the height of the recession, and I couldn't
1:22:40
Speaker 1: find a job. So I started consulting. And then one
1:22:44
Speaker 1: of the clients I started consulting um some online some
1:22:47
Speaker 1: apps and online businesses, And what I was finding by
1:22:51
Speaker 1: helping them was that they'll let you know how much
1:22:54
Speaker 1: money your sort of placements have made them. So if
1:22:58
Speaker 1: I get you some placement, somebody clicks through purchases. And
1:23:00
Speaker 1: I was helping these brands make you know, eighty thousand,
1:23:03
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars a month, and my sea at
1:23:06
Speaker 1: the time was nowhere near that. So I said to myself,
1:23:09
Speaker 1: I have to be able to come up with something
1:23:11
Speaker 1: that I can then promote myself. And so that's kind
1:23:14
Speaker 1: of what the wheel started turning. And I saw deep, deep,
1:23:18
Speaker 1: deep in the like tech um in the tech trades
1:23:21
Speaker 1: about a beauty about how beauty subscriptions were going to
1:23:24
Speaker 1: be making a comeback. They hadn't started yet, but they
1:23:27
Speaker 1: were going to be making a comeback. And I said,
1:23:29
Speaker 1: great idea, wrong market, because women of color, we've never
1:23:34
Speaker 1: nobody ever samples with us, nobody ever does anything. They
1:23:37
Speaker 1: just expect us to buy it. So I had um.
1:23:41
Speaker 1: I reached out. I basically dialed in all my favors.
1:23:45
Speaker 1: You know, I would you say that everyty fashion fare
1:23:49
Speaker 1: was really the leading for as you said, women of color? Right? Okay,
1:23:54
Speaker 1: so you was working with that platform only out there
1:23:57
Speaker 1: you say, hey, we gotta build you got we gotta
1:23:59
Speaker 1: build something for us, correct, correct, just more in terms
1:24:03
Speaker 1: of sampling, you know, we want black women want to
1:24:06
Speaker 1: try things too. So that was the deal. So I
1:24:10
Speaker 1: essentially I dialed in every single favor that I had.
1:24:13
Speaker 1: The girl who made our current logo, Um, she did
1:24:16
Speaker 1: it for free. And she goes, if you ever make
1:24:18
Speaker 1: any money on this, just go ahead and pay me.
1:24:20
Speaker 1: So I, yeah, but I did. She but this is
1:24:26
Speaker 1: the thing she's been. She's made money off me every
1:24:29
Speaker 1: single month, and then I have continued to employ her. Yeah.
1:24:33
Speaker 1: So um, that was the deal. Well, I just basically
1:24:36
Speaker 1: called everyone, and I had no idea about like packing
1:24:40
Speaker 1: and shipping and logistics. But my friend connected me with
1:24:44
Speaker 1: his classmate who owned a fulfillment center, so they took
1:24:47
Speaker 1: me on for free, no credit. Jack Um, I want
1:24:51
Speaker 1: to tell you, okay, okay, okay, when did prayer? How
1:24:55
Speaker 1: much prayer was going on, how much faith was riding
1:24:58
Speaker 1: this this whole mission. You know what's so crazy is
1:25:01
Speaker 1: that it was it was what was interesting about my
1:25:04
Speaker 1: faith and this is that I felt like God was
1:25:06
Speaker 1: insisting that I do this, Like I've given you this
1:25:09
Speaker 1: idea and it's like you can try to ignore me
1:25:12
Speaker 1: that I'm like every single night until you do it,
1:25:16
Speaker 1: and that really I was like, okay, I hear you.
1:25:18
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going to do it. And
1:25:20
Speaker 1: when I took one step, it was literally like every
1:25:23
Speaker 1: it was like every single thing that I needed, somebody
1:25:26
Speaker 1: stepped up and literally gave it to me, which was
1:25:28
Speaker 1: insane awesome. That's this is awesome because the reason to
1:25:32
Speaker 1: say it's awesome because of the fact that you're able
1:25:35
Speaker 1: to tell your story and make it happen in a
1:25:37
Speaker 1: big way. Am I correct? And then but but but
1:25:41
Speaker 1: the thing about it is that I always tell, at
1:25:43
Speaker 1: what point did you have a plan? At what point
1:25:46
Speaker 1: did you know? Because you just didn't jump out there
1:25:48
Speaker 1: on faith, you have plans, right, relationships, mentors and things
1:25:53
Speaker 1: like that. So because I want people to hear these things,
1:25:55
Speaker 1: because you know, when you owns to show, like mony
1:25:57
Speaker 1: main conversation, I get tons of the wreck messages on LinkedIn,
1:26:02
Speaker 1: on Facebook, people with all these ideas, and as soon
1:26:04
Speaker 1: as their ideas there's no merit to them, or they
1:26:07
Speaker 1: just sent me a video, no merit to them, no plan,
1:26:10
Speaker 1: no plan of action. I get the fact that everybody
1:26:12
Speaker 1: has a dream, but what is your plan of action
1:26:15
Speaker 1: tied to that? You are a visionary. And usually when
1:26:19
Speaker 1: you're a visionary. When I say people a visionary, I'm
1:26:21
Speaker 1: talking about Zuckenberg or Facebook, I'm talking about Steve Jobs
1:26:25
Speaker 1: of Apple. These are people who see things uniquely in
1:26:27
Speaker 1: a space and then make a model that nobody else
1:26:32
Speaker 1: is doing at the time. That's what you did at
1:26:33
Speaker 1: the time. That's not becoming popular, has become a very
1:26:37
Speaker 1: popular drawingre That's that's just just take it off. You know.
1:26:40
Speaker 1: You see national commercials with these same little monthly subscription boxes.
1:26:45
Speaker 1: When you get it, you're gonna get these products. Is
1:26:48
Speaker 1: a guarantee. When we come back, if you don't mind
1:26:50
Speaker 1: hang on a little bit, we're gonna talk about to
1:26:53
Speaker 1: my understanding. Uh, you're gonna be a future mom, is there? Correct? Okay,
1:26:57
Speaker 1: we will talk about that because they're gonna talk about
1:27:00
Speaker 1: how she gonna change her work schedule, you know, and
1:27:02
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about what's in that box that you
1:27:04
Speaker 1: get every mond because it changes every month. Correct, correct? Okay, Cool,
1:27:08
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more money making conversation. Just fantastic.
1:27:11
Speaker 1: I don't be a joint you sail if I'm having
1:27:13
Speaker 1: a good time with your girl cool. I'm back from
1:27:16
Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. This is the last break and money making Conversation.
1:27:20
Speaker 1: Fantastic show. I want to thank all my guests, starting
1:27:23
Speaker 1: with Sheila Coates, be your brand. Then we work our
1:27:28
Speaker 1: way around with Cody Oliver, the executive producer of Black Love,
1:27:33
Speaker 1: The Answer, Tory Ananda, social media guru. Now I'm on
1:27:39
Speaker 1: the phone with my leak the emphasis on my til
1:27:44
Speaker 1: there we go. Now, I'm gonna win with you now
1:27:46
Speaker 1: because guess you're special. You're very, very special. And I
1:27:50
Speaker 1: say that because of the fact that you know it
1:27:53
Speaker 1: had to be uh, you know from you know, it's
1:27:58
Speaker 1: interesting when I meet people like you because you got
1:28:02
Speaker 1: it early on somehow you know, you had the gene
1:28:05
Speaker 1: or somebody was important in your life. I don't know
1:28:07
Speaker 1: your entire story to say that that that pushed you that,
1:28:11
Speaker 1: uh I told you you could be more than what
1:28:14
Speaker 1: everybody else puts on the wall, or everybody else tells
1:28:17
Speaker 1: you that the color of your skin. Who was that person?
1:28:22
Speaker 1: Probably I think my parents, you know, my parents, my
1:28:26
Speaker 1: dad specifically, probably just always I knew, I knew as
1:28:30
Speaker 1: I'm doing my daughter right now, I'm pushing I'm pushing
1:28:32
Speaker 1: them to miss my leak to you, my daughter gonna
1:28:35
Speaker 1: be Christiana McDonald. There you go. Yeah, like very I think,
1:28:40
Speaker 1: very tough, just you know, very tough and always spoke
1:28:43
Speaker 1: to me like I was an adult, Like never kitty talk.
1:28:46
Speaker 1: Always let me have an opinion in a voice. And
1:28:49
Speaker 1: I think that that that really helps with limiting the
1:28:52
Speaker 1: amount of fear that I have as an adult. Do
1:28:55
Speaker 1: you want like I just I jokingly said that it's
1:28:58
Speaker 1: that's a compliment. I feel. I want my daughter to be,
1:29:02
Speaker 1: you know, just like my leak tell It's just how
1:29:04
Speaker 1: does that feel when that when you hear somebody like
1:29:07
Speaker 1: me Rashan McDonald say that to you and sincerely say
1:29:10
Speaker 1: that to you because of the fact that you know
1:29:12
Speaker 1: you're doing your own thing, and you're doing it in
1:29:15
Speaker 1: a way that most people have told you know, but
1:29:18
Speaker 1: in your back of your mind, you've had the support
1:29:19
Speaker 1: system and said, don't listen, don't listen, don't listen. I
1:29:23
Speaker 1: talked to work hard. I've been telling you, you a baby,
1:29:27
Speaker 1: that you can do this. Don't let people get your
1:29:29
Speaker 1: head and tell you what you cannot do. That's amazing
1:29:33
Speaker 1: that's amazing. How do you feel? How do you feel? Um?
1:29:36
Speaker 1: You know what, sometimes I get people write me tons
1:29:39
Speaker 1: of letters and it is definitely humbling and sometimes overwhelmed
1:29:42
Speaker 1: me because I you know, the thing of being quote
1:29:46
Speaker 1: unquote special is nice to hear, I think. But more
1:29:50
Speaker 1: than anything, it's just the dedication to just working hard
1:29:53
Speaker 1: and always doing the personal work. You know, it takes
1:29:56
Speaker 1: a lot of personal word to not be defeated because
1:29:59
Speaker 1: I think we don't realized the person that defeats us
1:30:01
Speaker 1: first is ourselves. Yeah. Yeah, it was like a lot
1:30:06
Speaker 1: of work to not talk yourself out of the game.
1:30:09
Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting because I try to share a
1:30:12
Speaker 1: little personal stories about myself because I've achieved a lot
1:30:16
Speaker 1: of success in my life. But I've also i will
1:30:19
Speaker 1: tell you, because people told me I was special. Because
1:30:23
Speaker 1: people told me I was unique, then you know, I've
1:30:26
Speaker 1: been bullied in my life, you know what I'm saying.
1:30:27
Speaker 1: So not only not physically, I was bullied physically when
1:30:31
Speaker 1: I was in fourth grade. Look, I couldn't pass the
1:30:33
Speaker 1: due Let's I game a quarter. And but you know
1:30:37
Speaker 1: when teachers asked me to read and class, you know,
1:30:40
Speaker 1: students with get mad and people they honored you for
1:30:43
Speaker 1: good attendance a grade. Your other peer group will getting mad.
1:30:47
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell it took me a long time.
1:30:48
Speaker 1: That's why I admired the the the share of protection
1:30:52
Speaker 1: that was given to you, that allowed you to grow
1:30:55
Speaker 1: because I only had to I only had to figure
1:30:57
Speaker 1: it out on my own. And I would tell you
1:30:58
Speaker 1: it took me years to accept after Roe Sean McDonald
1:31:01
Speaker 1: was and is today, and that's important that when I'm
1:31:05
Speaker 1: talking to you, and I'm gonna keep pounding if you don't,
1:31:08
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep telling you, I ain't gotta tell you
1:31:09
Speaker 1: too much because you know you've got people have already
1:31:11
Speaker 1: told you all your life how special you are. And
1:31:13
Speaker 1: I want I want the kids to be put your poster,
1:31:17
Speaker 1: put your put your brand on their walls and say
1:31:20
Speaker 1: I want to be just like her, because that will
1:31:22
Speaker 1: enable them to understand that no matter what, you can
1:31:26
Speaker 1: be like my leak. And I think that's im I
1:31:28
Speaker 1: think that's important and that leads to my next question.
1:31:32
Speaker 1: My next story is about your podcast because because you see,
1:31:36
Speaker 1: that's how I working on this show. You know, my
1:31:38
Speaker 1: leak got I kind of working over here, but I'm
1:31:40
Speaker 1: really sliding over to something even more important, is your podcast.
1:31:44
Speaker 1: Tell us about your podcast, the podcast I actually started, um,
1:31:49
Speaker 1: So I tell you what. I launched callbox that November,
1:31:54
Speaker 1: and I started the podcast literally the very next month,
1:31:57
Speaker 1: almost as a like a converse station with myself, UM
1:32:02
Speaker 1: and everything that I had gone through personally, and also
1:32:06
Speaker 1: all of the lessons I felt that I had learned
1:32:08
Speaker 1: that had gotten me to that point. And so I
1:32:10
Speaker 1: think when I started recording it back in twenty eleven,
1:32:13
Speaker 1: I used to get like maybe twenty listens like and
1:32:19
Speaker 1: it was so defeating. It was. It was so defeating,
1:32:22
Speaker 1: wasn't it. You know? I had no I had no
1:32:25
Speaker 1: point of like, point of view, the point of view.
1:32:30
Speaker 1: I had nothing to compare it to. There was not
1:32:32
Speaker 1: that people weren't really doing podcasts back then. So twenty
1:32:36
Speaker 1: was better than nothing, and nothing was all I knew
1:32:39
Speaker 1: and so found. Yeah, it's very much word of mouth.
1:32:45
Speaker 1: I think all of my businesses have succeeded just by
1:32:47
Speaker 1: word of mouth. And now I get millions of downloads
1:32:50
Speaker 1: a year on my podcast. And if I do it
1:32:53
Speaker 1: all alone, I do it by myself, my own microphone,
1:32:56
Speaker 1: and I do it in my kitchen and it's there's
1:32:59
Speaker 1: you know, I just started ben guests on them, but
1:33:00
Speaker 1: it really is just more of a with So I
1:33:05
Speaker 1: won't qualify, right, I'm ball here that I won't curl
1:33:08
Speaker 1: I won't qualify for the Curly Box interview. But that's
1:33:12
Speaker 1: all right now just continue with you with your motivation
1:33:14
Speaker 1: about your podcast, which I have a big fan. Fact,
1:33:17
Speaker 1: she's she's she's kind of underselling herself over two million downloads. Okay,
1:33:23
Speaker 1: this is not she she's away from twenty to over
1:33:27
Speaker 1: two million. And I say that because of the fact
1:33:30
Speaker 1: that that's what this show is about. Money making conversation.
1:33:33
Speaker 1: Because see, along the way of being successful in my life,
1:33:37
Speaker 1: my personal and my professional life. You know, sometimes you
1:33:41
Speaker 1: know because you're you're a goal late in person, which
1:33:43
Speaker 1: means that when I say that means that when she
1:33:45
Speaker 1: meets one goal, she moves past it. And sometimes you
1:33:49
Speaker 1: move past it so fast you don't even appreciate what
1:33:52
Speaker 1: you've accomplished and my correctness in it, and so and
1:33:57
Speaker 1: so that's that's what this show is about. Be able
1:33:59
Speaker 1: to let me hear your story, but also to share
1:34:02
Speaker 1: with you the values of what you're doing and how
1:34:05
Speaker 1: you are changing the game. You've already said two very
1:34:08
Speaker 1: significant things on this show, but you've been very casual
1:34:11
Speaker 1: with it. You started Morthless subscriptions market subscription before that
1:34:16
Speaker 1: was even in the game. Okay, and then you turn
1:34:19
Speaker 1: around saying, I was podcasting before podcasting, you know, So
1:34:24
Speaker 1: so you had a vision about two and you started
1:34:27
Speaker 1: nearly at the same time. So so so yeah, yeah,
1:34:32
Speaker 1: just said yeah, so so with that being said, my friend,
1:34:38
Speaker 1: my friend who who who's out of here just doing
1:34:42
Speaker 1: it up, you know, about to be a fantastic future mom.
1:34:46
Speaker 1: What is the future for you? Oh gosh, that's always
1:34:51
Speaker 1: the hardest question. You know. I think that everything that
1:34:55
Speaker 1: I do is always, um, whatever I think is on
1:34:59
Speaker 1: my heart, right, so I think, uh, I have I
1:35:03
Speaker 1: feel very lucky to have businesses. But the podcast does well,
1:35:06
Speaker 1: the the curl box does well. And now that I
1:35:10
Speaker 1: mean I've decided to become a mom a little bit
1:35:12
Speaker 1: later in life. Uh that I feel like I've earned
1:35:16
Speaker 1: my right to to have some time and you know,
1:35:19
Speaker 1: in grace, in grace because yeah, I've hauled but for
1:35:24
Speaker 1: a very long time, you know, countless nights, you know,
1:35:28
Speaker 1: weekends given away. And now I think it's like I
1:35:32
Speaker 1: think I had. What happened when I became successful is
1:35:34
Speaker 1: that I took a lot of trips and I fall
1:35:35
Speaker 1: a lot of things, and I'm like, this isn't going
1:35:37
Speaker 1: to get boring alone after a while, you know. Um
1:35:41
Speaker 1: So now I don't know. I think I think I
1:35:44
Speaker 1: was worried. I had a conversation with my dad about,
1:35:46
Speaker 1: oh my god, am I going to fall off? Because
1:35:48
Speaker 1: that was my fear. And having a child is that
1:35:50
Speaker 1: if I have started family, and I think my dad's
1:35:53
Speaker 1: like not at all, and I think I don't know
1:35:55
Speaker 1: you're a parent, but I think you start to feel like, okay,
1:35:59
Speaker 1: now I have to go even harder. Like it's the
1:36:01
Speaker 1: thing is like I don't even like they eat first, right,
1:36:04
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm not just feeding myself right now.
1:36:07
Speaker 1: I'm I'm wanna hunt. I've got I'm wanna mission with
1:36:09
Speaker 1: somebody on my back now, so I'm gonna be even
1:36:12
Speaker 1: more vicious. You know I'm right. Then, you now have
1:36:17
Speaker 1: a future. That's what I'm just telling you. You have
1:36:19
Speaker 1: a future, and you're gonna reset your goals and guess what,
1:36:23
Speaker 1: You're gonna create a curl box subscription for your child. Okay,
1:36:27
Speaker 1: I know you I know your visionary now what you
1:36:29
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do it sit around, go now that much
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Speaker 1: and I come out that now much with an idea
1:36:33
Speaker 1: on how to make money. Come on now and you're
1:36:35
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1:36:37
Speaker 1: I want to thank you. UH please uh give us
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Speaker 1: for one man another man, I'm proud of him. You
1:37:19
Speaker 1: don't know me, but I know the results of what
1:37:22
Speaker 1: he's done and created. You're an amazing young lady. You're
1:37:25
Speaker 1: gonna be a fantastic mom and keep doing what you're
1:37:28
Speaker 1: doing and like I said, I want my daughter. We
1:37:31
Speaker 1: grew up he just like you. You keep winning. Okay,
1:37:34
Speaker 1: thank you so much, have a good day. This Sean McDonald.
1:37:37
Speaker 1: This has been an episode of money making conversations. We've
1:37:39
Speaker 1: been back next Monday. Keep changing lives, keep making you
1:37:42
Speaker 1: live a life that you know you can accomplish. I'm
1:37:46
Speaker 1: just giving advice to you for free. But if you
1:37:48
Speaker 1: don't take advantage of who's the loser, then this ro
1:37:51
Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. Talk to you next week. Bye bye,