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Rachel Hollis on Better Business Tips & Choosing Joy When Life Sucks · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: that life will present to you. My next guest, Rachel
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Speaker 1: Hollis laid the found nation for her lifestyle branding media
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Speaker 1: companied by being a two time two time number one
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Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author, Hollis connects with a highly engaged,
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Speaker 1: in growing global audience who treasures her transparency and optimism.
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Speaker 1: She's one of the most sought after motivational speakers place
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Speaker 1: host to one of today's top business podcast, It's a
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Speaker 1: Proud Working Mama four. Her uses the platform to empower
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Speaker 1: and embolding women around the world. Rachel calls Austin, Texas
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Speaker 1: her home. I'm born and raised in Houston, Texas, so
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Speaker 1: you know I love her more specifically the hill country
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Speaker 1: just southside of Austin, which is a beautiful wooded area.
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Speaker 1: She's on the show to discuss her new book. Didn't
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Speaker 1: see that coming, please, welcome to money making Conversation. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna calling my friend because she's a Texan girl. Rachel
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Speaker 1: Hollis well based on right now. I got a home
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Speaker 1: in Houston, but my headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. So so
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Speaker 1: I'm born in Houston, Texas, with the high school with
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Speaker 1: the college there. Got married in Houston, Texas. So Texas
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Speaker 1: is my my birth state. In my life style state.
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Speaker 1: So how does the field to live in Austin, my friend?
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Speaker 1: And how long have you been in Austin? It's steels fantastic.
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Speaker 1: I've been here a little over three years and moving
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Speaker 1: out of Los Angeles into Austin, UH is one of
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Speaker 1: the best decisions I've ever made in my life. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you this. I lived in Los
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Speaker 1: Angeles fifteen years, Okay, so I know the full five
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Speaker 1: at ten pm on a something not to be packed
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Speaker 1: like it's five pm, all right. I lived in the
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Speaker 1: first I lived in Hollywood right off for one on
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Speaker 1: one and um Hollywood right there, and then I lived
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Speaker 1: off and then I moved to Librea right there and
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Speaker 1: right across from UH liber topics. I lived in that
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Speaker 1: town homes over there, and then I closed it out
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Speaker 1: living in the palazzo right across from all the market,
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Speaker 1: the farmers market, right across from North have to walk
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Speaker 1: out of North Room the street light. I walked through
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Speaker 1: the street light, not going to North Room. That's how
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Speaker 1: I convenied my life or rate youel very successful either way,
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Speaker 1: I was living large. You're always living your right, but
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Speaker 1: that's what l A does for you. As allows you
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Speaker 1: the environment a live large, and then you move to
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Speaker 1: Austin and it just it just like immediately slows down.
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Speaker 1: So why was it important to have a move to
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Speaker 1: Austin for you and the most important in your family. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think, uh, for for several reasons. The first, the
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Speaker 1: impetus for the move was, I am a business owner,
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Speaker 1: and California is not very kind to business owners, but
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Speaker 1: Texas is. Uh, that is exactly right. Uh. So I knew,
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Speaker 1: I knew that I wanted to grow my company. I
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Speaker 1: wanted to grow my team, and I thought I had
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Speaker 1: a better chance of doing that in a state that
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Speaker 1: was a little bit more forgiving, was much lower cost
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Speaker 1: of living, just really practical reasons for why. And Austin
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Speaker 1: was one of my favorite cities in the world still is,
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Speaker 1: and so it made a ton of sense. But I
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Speaker 1: don't think I was even conscious of how much I
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Speaker 1: was gonna love getting back to the country and having space.
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Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm doing this interview with you, I'm
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Speaker 1: looking I'm on a hilltop. I'm literally looking out over
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Speaker 1: just just beautiful land, and it feels like such a blessing.
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Speaker 1: Every single day in my life, I look out at
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Speaker 1: this you, and I never take it for granted. I'm
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Speaker 1: so grateful to be here. You know, it's really important
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Speaker 1: that people understand what she's saying. Like, I grew up
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Speaker 1: in a little back store on me right. So I
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Speaker 1: grew up in the in the hood. Uh uh, the
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Speaker 1: six sisters, two brothers, both my parents, and the two
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Speaker 1: bedroom shotgun house. So space was always an issue. I
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Speaker 1: was always on top of people and so and so,
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Speaker 1: you know, people understand that created for a creative person
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Speaker 1: like me, I have to have I have to I
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Speaker 1: have to be able to walk out and not bump
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Speaker 1: into people. And so my home in Houston doesn't a
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Speaker 1: gated community is really nice. But then my property in
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Speaker 1: Atlanta is I have a little lake. And so when
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Speaker 1: I when I bought this property, I my wife, she
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Speaker 1: founded and I walked into the house. I said, I
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Speaker 1: wanted to buy my wife's you know, negotiate like that.
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Speaker 1: You just don't walk in the house and something like that.
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Speaker 1: Because I can look at the back and I saw water,
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Speaker 1: and water is such a common thing to me. And
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Speaker 1: so when I when I when I bring that up
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, these are triggers
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Speaker 1: for you and you talk about that how because you're
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Speaker 1: really big into therapy and these triggers are important that
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Speaker 1: people understand how you can find that place where you
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Speaker 1: can calm your spirit, calm you, which in turn will
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Speaker 1: will calm your body because a lot of people don't
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Speaker 1: know the mental frame that you can can affect you
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Speaker 1: your body and a lot of difficult and a lot
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Speaker 1: of negative ways physically correct. Right. And and the thing
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Speaker 1: that I want to say for your listeners too, is
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Speaker 1: neither you or I grew up inside of privilege in
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Speaker 1: having money, so like I grew up super poor. Um
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Speaker 1: a lot of really difficult stuff in my childhood. And
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Speaker 1: so I just want to say for people who are listening,
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Speaker 1: who made me think, like, oh, it's so easy for
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Speaker 1: you guys to say find space or have of you
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Speaker 1: or well all of those things. I remember being a
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Speaker 1: little girl and going into my bed and closing my
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Speaker 1: eyes and using my imagination to imagine myself in a
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Speaker 1: different world than the one that I lived inside of.
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Speaker 1: I honestly didn't have the language to call that manifesting
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Speaker 1: or dreaming or naming big gold at the time, but
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Speaker 1: that truly was where I learned how to do it.
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Speaker 1: So you can envision the life that you want. You
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Speaker 1: can envision the space that you are hoping for years
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Speaker 1: before you ever make that thing manifest. So don't think
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Speaker 1: that you need the money or the house or the
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Speaker 1: property in order to find that piece for yourself. That
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Speaker 1: really is something that you can do through mindset and meditation.
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Speaker 1: This is I'm talking to Rachel Hollis her book. Didn't
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Speaker 1: see that coming. I'm tell you why I reve this
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Speaker 1: first time I've spoken to her. But you know, you
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Speaker 1: meet somebody, you read about them, and you do a
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Speaker 1: little research, you go, I love this person. Okay. First
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Speaker 1: of all, I don't know if you've heard this turn,
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Speaker 1: but you know of wich you Instagram account, and like
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Speaker 1: the way you stay because your your your toes point inward, Okay,
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Speaker 1: when you stay in there, that's called pigeon toad. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you know. And I'm pigeon told. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so we're pigeon toad couple, pigeon to couple. Okay. So
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Speaker 1: so so I said, so I said, was she's pigeon
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Speaker 1: to it. I love her. I love her. And then
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Speaker 1: I'm reading the book and she says, she says this
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Speaker 1: funny line and she talks about, you know, swallowing a
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Speaker 1: watermelon seed and you think a watermelon will grow in
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Speaker 1: your stomach, raise your hand. That was Rashan McDonald. Rushan,
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Speaker 1: I thought Santa Claus was real. I'm just gonna let
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Speaker 1: you know. That's how that's how simple my mind. That's
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Speaker 1: how simple my mond and so and so. Then another
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Speaker 1: thing I laughed out loud, and I was so fun
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Speaker 1: just listening in your book. Was the was the because
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Speaker 1: was the birthmark? The little mold? Oh my god, I
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Speaker 1: wanted the birthmark so bad. That's hilarious, you know. I
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Speaker 1: just I just wounded a little mold somewhere. I can
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Speaker 1: just that's my little sexy spot. Right there's you, and
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Speaker 1: you got it right there, you know, and you're talking,
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Speaker 1: you talk about it. So so we hit it off
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Speaker 1: where we hit it off in four Waste, Austin, Texas. Okay,
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Speaker 1: then you're a pigeontoe, and a lot of people need
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Speaker 1: to tell the pigeontoe unless your pigeon toe. You don't
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Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Okay, you don't know what
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Speaker 1: that means. And then she has a beautiful birthmark. And
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Speaker 1: then she actually believed she swallowed the water melons water
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Speaker 1: melon will grow in stomach Rash McDonald well, And in
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Speaker 1: the book, the reason that I'm talking about the watermelon
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Speaker 1: seed is that i want to ask you as a reader, one,
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Speaker 1: are the things that you used to believe as capital
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Speaker 1: t truth that you now know we are not true?
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Speaker 1: Because if you held onto the belief about Santa Claus
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Speaker 1: or the Easter bunny or you know, the you know,
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Speaker 1: if I if I swallow an apple seed like it's
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Speaker 1: poison and it's gonna kill me, then you can ask
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Speaker 1: yourself what as an adult right now, what limiting what
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Speaker 1: thing are you holding onto right now that could also
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Speaker 1: not be true? And that is especially powerful when the
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Speaker 1: thing that you believe is about your own self and
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Speaker 1: your own abilities. Right Like, I feel like when people
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Speaker 1: grew grow up without not a lot of things that
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Speaker 1: they they sort of go one of two ways. They
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Speaker 1: either have that become their reality, like the world was
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Speaker 1: out to get me. I'll never get ahead, I'll never
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Speaker 1: have anything. My family doesn't have the resources they have
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Speaker 1: all of these things that they keep telling themselves, or
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Speaker 1: you maybe did what you and I do, which is like, okay,
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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't come from anything, but by God,
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Speaker 1: I have the ability to wake up today and try
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Speaker 1: my best, and I can learn and use resources that
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Speaker 1: are out there that are free, and I can grow
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Speaker 1: and become something more. So, what are the things that
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Speaker 1: you used to believe that are actually you know, for
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Speaker 1: a factor not true? Well, dang, what are you holding
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Speaker 1: onto right now in your life? And didn't need to
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Speaker 1: let go up as well? And that's that's so true,
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Speaker 1: because let let's go back to my belief. There was
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Speaker 1: a Santa Claus, okay, And I was born and raised
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Speaker 1: in the hood. So I was holding them to anything
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Speaker 1: that I felt made me feel good, that made me
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Speaker 1: feel to con take me away from the world that
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Speaker 1: I knew wasn't the world I wanted to be in
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Speaker 1: because I lived in want the community to the until
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Speaker 1: I was ten years old, and then we moved up
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Speaker 1: to a little bit better black neighborhood. But still when
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Speaker 1: I walked outside, it looked like the same neighborhood, black
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Speaker 1: people all around me. You know, I got on the
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Speaker 1: bus and black people getting on the bus. So it
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Speaker 1: wasn't like my environment changed. It was just that my
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Speaker 1: lifestyle got upgraded a little bit. And so I believe,
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Speaker 1: and I'm telling you Honestly, Rachel, I believe in Santa Claus.
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Speaker 1: I was fifteen years old. I really did. I believe,
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Speaker 1: and so I did not. The bubble was burst when
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Speaker 1: my dad woke me up, okay, woke me up. He said,
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Speaker 1: come on, boy, we gotta put these bikes together. Go
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Speaker 1: bikes together. What you're talking about? And he took me
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Speaker 1: outside and uh, and he pulled these bikes that could
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Speaker 1: go there. I was so. I was so I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you say naive, but I was just so
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Speaker 1: wanted to believe that there was something else out there
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Speaker 1: for me other than what I had known and lived
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Speaker 1: that he told me, there's no there's nothing that doesn't exist.
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Speaker 1: So don't worry about that. Let's put these bikes together.
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Speaker 1: We gotta put all this fruit underneath, these Christmas trees,
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Speaker 1: these train tracks, we gotta put all this stuff underneath
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Speaker 1: so everybody can be happy. The morning that was my
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Speaker 1: that was my entry into adulthood. Right there. I went
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Speaker 1: from I went from like totally believing in Santa Claus
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Speaker 1: to like, huh, I'm an adult now. And so that
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Speaker 1: was like the cold slap in the face for me,
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Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes parents don't understand that that transition
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Speaker 1: of information can really can really do something to a child,
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Speaker 1: and it really I'm not saying it ruined my life,
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Speaker 1: but it was a moment where where I was really safe.
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Speaker 1: I was in a very safe space. And that's what
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Speaker 1: you're talking about. When you hold on to information, it
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Speaker 1: can keep you in a very space safe space, but
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Speaker 1: the agers who can hinder your growth absolutely. And what's
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Speaker 1: so crazy is that people will hold on to the
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Speaker 1: certainty because they do feel comfort in it, even to
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Speaker 1: their own detriment. Right, So, I mean, I think your
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Speaker 1: the your story about finding that out, it like makes
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Speaker 1: my heart hurt. And I don't know why this just
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Speaker 1: popped into my head, but the fact that it's something
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Speaker 1: that you still think about and you can hear when
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Speaker 1: you tell that story that it is a painful memory
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Speaker 1: for you, even if it was sort of a rite
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Speaker 1: of passage. And of course your dad couldn't have thought,
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Speaker 1: you know, at fifteen years old, that you still maybe
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Speaker 1: we're holding onto that truth. I wonder what it looks
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Speaker 1: like in your life today, Like, have you ever thought
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Speaker 1: about I'm just thinking as we go into the holidays
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Speaker 1: and Christmas is coming around, like you ever thought about
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Speaker 1: doing something like putting effort into you know, do you
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Speaker 1: volunte volunteer or give presents or something to um UH
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Speaker 1: kids and foster care, or do you do something where
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Speaker 1: you are keep being the spirit of Santa Clause alive
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Speaker 1: other little kids. You know the thing about my personality
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Speaker 1: is that I always go back. Since I was eighteen,
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Speaker 1: I can always realize my mission is always to make
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Speaker 1: other people's lives better. I'm always be in a position
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Speaker 1: to make young people see there as opportunity, so I
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Speaker 1: make donations. I'm I'm tied to like specific programs, whether
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Speaker 1: it's entertainment program for kids who want to pursue entertainment careers.
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Speaker 1: I have a scholarship foundation at my alma made Universe
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Speaker 1: Houston for minority students who want math and science opportunities
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Speaker 1: and optometry opportunities and education. So so I've always had
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Speaker 1: that built in mechanism to make people feel good and
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Speaker 1: see opportunity. And then I'm a big Christmas decorator. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I loved that that that Christmas tree is going up
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Speaker 1: at my house. You know, I will spend money to
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Speaker 1: make sure people understand that I value and feel good
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Speaker 1: about the Christmas moment. The spirit of uplift, that spirit
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Speaker 1: of feel good, that that dominates my life. And so
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Speaker 1: when I'm reading your book, you know, don't see don't
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Speaker 1: didn't see that coming. You know your whole story when
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Speaker 1: you're telling from that tragic moment, you know mine is
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Speaker 1: nowhere near the tragic moment you're walking in your brother
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Speaker 1: Ryan and his suicide. But it was a Joe team
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Speaker 1: moment for me because I was in denial about there
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Speaker 1: was no Santa clause according to my parents when people
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Speaker 1: told me, I wrote letters. And when you can look
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Speaker 1: at the news, they always tell you he's flying over
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Speaker 1: the North Pole. They're telling that the news is telling
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Speaker 1: I just up and tell my friend. They would look
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Speaker 1: at me like, boy, you are so stupid. Really look
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Speaker 1: at the news. I validated. And so when you look
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Speaker 1: at the situation, like in regards to you, you see signs,
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Speaker 1: but you ignore them. And I think that that's what
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Speaker 1: happened in your brother's situation. There were signs and they
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Speaker 1: were ignored and then the reality is never a good
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Speaker 1: thing because the reality led to his suicide. So but
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Speaker 1: that was the point that the Joe to you, and
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Speaker 1: there was a writer of passage that you weren't prepared
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Speaker 1: to you. Yes, you had to do with it because
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Speaker 1: guess what it was thrust upon you? Yes, exactly. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think you know that is I think that most
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Speaker 1: people go through something in their lives that divides their
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Speaker 1: life in half. It's that pivotal moment, whether that happens
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Speaker 1: at age six or fourteen or thirty nine, where you
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Speaker 1: divide your life into before and after this thing. And
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Speaker 1: for me, the death of my older brother is my
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Speaker 1: before and after is it? You know, I describe it
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Speaker 1: as our family was was so was so not great,
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Speaker 1: but we were still clinging to something right. And then
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Speaker 1: Ryan's death was it literally was the stile that broke
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Speaker 1: the camel's back, like it just decimated whatever was left.
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Speaker 1: And as much as I have always been a really
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Speaker 1: mature even as a little girl, I was very mature.
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Speaker 1: I grew up, Like you said, you know, you grew
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Speaker 1: up in that moment. I grew up that day. Um.
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Speaker 1: I you know my parents really obviously you know, they
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Speaker 1: had just lost their son, but they really struggled with
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Speaker 1: keeping it together. And I remember being way too young
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Speaker 1: and you know, doing things that I shouldn't have been doing,
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Speaker 1: calling and telling family members that he was gone, or
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Speaker 1: helping to, you know, write the obituary, just things that
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Speaker 1: like I was fourteen, and in retrospect that would have
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Speaker 1: my own kids, I can look at that and see
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Speaker 1: how not okay it was. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's what life is. Life are these
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Speaker 1: is this a series of moments where you you're you're
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Speaker 1: in it, and you're sort of asked to step up
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Speaker 1: and you're asked to figure it out. And um, that's
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Speaker 1: not the only time that's happened to me in my life,
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Speaker 1: and and and I think, honestly, it may not be
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Speaker 1: the only time for the rest of my life that
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Speaker 1: I go through something that difficult, which you know, I
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Speaker 1: think about this year, right, and everybody keeps talking about
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Speaker 1: and how they can't wait till it's over. I heard
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Speaker 1: it again on the radio this morning, like, oh, only
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Speaker 1: two more months until this horrible year is over. And
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Speaker 1: I just feel like people are in for such a
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Speaker 1: rude awakening, because I really do think that people are
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Speaker 1: clinging to the idea that on New Year's Eve at midnight,
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Speaker 1: suddenly all of our problems are going to go away,
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna wake up on New Year's day with
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Speaker 1: the exact same life that you had on New Year's Ease.
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Speaker 1: And this year, this really hard year of is not
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Speaker 1: the only hard year you're gonna live in the rest
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Speaker 1: of your life. Like, sit with that for a minute,
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Speaker 1: because I feel like people are like, I just got
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Speaker 1: to get through this thing. Well, great, what's going to
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Speaker 1: happen three years from now when something even more terrible
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Speaker 1: happens to you or some and you love, You're gonna
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Speaker 1: look back on how you handle this moment, this year,
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Speaker 1: this hardship, and you're gonna ask yourself, did you step up,
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Speaker 1: did you do what needed to be done, did you
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Speaker 1: keep going? Or did you pull the covers over your head?
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Speaker 1: And and I hope that something was going to change.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting when I hear you talk
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Speaker 1: like that, and because you know you you you live
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Speaker 1: a life where you are moll You're just a regular
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Speaker 1: person who just happens to be a visionary. And that's
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Speaker 1: why when I ever hear people talking about I can't wait.
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Speaker 1: Those people are looking at them and I have to
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Speaker 1: walk away because my mindset and your mindset is already
18:37
Speaker 1: deep into one. If that's what planners do, you can't
18:41
Speaker 1: make money thinking thirty days cycle, you're thinking six months
18:44
Speaker 1: in a year because you you think about rent, you
18:47
Speaker 1: think about budgets. That's how you p that's how you
18:49
Speaker 1: plan success. People who are thinking thirty days out, they're
18:52
Speaker 1: just people who are just in that rap wheel. They
18:54
Speaker 1: just rolling just to be that bill, pay the light bill.
18:56
Speaker 1: And you can never say money like that. And when
18:58
Speaker 1: I when I look at what you're trying to do
19:01
Speaker 1: with your life and what I've done with my life,
19:03
Speaker 1: is that we're just trying to win, and we're trying
19:05
Speaker 1: to win with advice on how you can win two
19:08
Speaker 1: And that's the nice part about your brand. That's why
19:11
Speaker 1: I associated so much with the way. I think we're
19:13
Speaker 1: just doing in different ways. You know, you're being a female,
19:16
Speaker 1: I'm being a male. But we're all trying to get
19:18
Speaker 1: people to step up. But it was interesting. I've done
19:20
Speaker 1: this interview with U re build you uh called impact Theory,
19:23
Speaker 1: and it went VI it went back and it went viral,
19:27
Speaker 1: and I was I was walking into a Whole Foods
19:31
Speaker 1: and this guy walked up to me and when you
19:33
Speaker 1: changed my life, you know, I'm trying to give me
19:39
Speaker 1: some peanuts, Okay, I'm trying to give me some peanuts. Right,
19:42
Speaker 1: this guy walks up to me, you with Sean McDonald, right,
19:44
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, he said you changed my life. I
19:46
Speaker 1: didn't know what he was talking about. And I and
19:48
Speaker 1: I take that back to you in your book when
19:51
Speaker 1: you're talking about lately walked up to you just exposed
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Speaker 1: to life in front of your son and you're trying
19:55
Speaker 1: to figure out you know, this is a lifestyle that
19:58
Speaker 1: you know that you we quested, but you didn't expect
20:01
Speaker 1: the results to all this. And so so where I
20:04
Speaker 1: get these moments, you know, do catch me off going
20:07
Speaker 1: even though I know that I'm an award winning baker,
20:10
Speaker 1: and so people have walked up. I'll be in the airport,
20:12
Speaker 1: people go, there's my man, you can bake. I go, yeah,
20:14
Speaker 1: you know, you know, yeah that's right because I do
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Speaker 1: post baking cupcakes on my on my social media, so
20:21
Speaker 1: they should be able to recognize that. So how do
20:23
Speaker 1: you deal with the unexpected even though you know you
20:26
Speaker 1: should expect that. I guess the question I'm trying to
20:28
Speaker 1: get to you right til to respond to you know.
20:31
Speaker 1: I I think like, honestly, when you reach a new
20:36
Speaker 1: level of success, you don't know what the heck is
20:39
Speaker 1: going on? Right, You're like, whoa, this is wild? And
20:45
Speaker 1: you know I do talk about this in the book.
20:46
Speaker 1: It was very overwhelming for me to come to terms
20:49
Speaker 1: with it, and I finally, did you know, I spent
20:52
Speaker 1: months kind of vacillating between honestly, do I want to
20:57
Speaker 1: do this? Which sounds well, I don't know how sounds,
21:00
Speaker 1: but I really thought like, are you are you capable
21:04
Speaker 1: of handling this much? Um like, honestly, like holding that
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Speaker 1: space for other people, are carrying other people's stories or
21:12
Speaker 1: showing up in this way. And it took me a
21:14
Speaker 1: long time to come to terms and to step into it.
21:17
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you practically, and I don't know if
21:19
Speaker 1: this will help your listeners, but this is definitely something
21:22
Speaker 1: for other people who have any kind of a platform.
21:25
Speaker 1: I honestly made a decision that if I was going
21:29
Speaker 1: to continue to do this work, if I am in public,
21:33
Speaker 1: I am ready to be there for other people. So
21:38
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, no, especially in COVID, nobody
21:41
Speaker 1: stops me right Like I'm like, I've got a mask on.
21:44
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't even know it's me. They nobody stops me.
21:48
Speaker 1: But I get stopped and when I get stopped, it's
21:51
Speaker 1: not hey, I love your work. It tends to be
21:54
Speaker 1: something much more in depth or much more emotional because
21:58
Speaker 1: of the kind of things that I talk glad I'm
22:00
Speaker 1: right about and in that moment, I just think, like,
22:04
Speaker 1: I want to show up for this community. I want
22:07
Speaker 1: to do the very best I can for them. I
22:09
Speaker 1: went on a run this morning at the lake, which
22:12
Speaker 1: is sacred practice for me, and I was running and
22:16
Speaker 1: someone you know started yelling my name. Now I could
22:19
Speaker 1: ably got air pods and I could just keep on
22:22
Speaker 1: renning and pretend that I didn't hear that person behind me.
22:25
Speaker 1: But again, if if I'm going to do this, then
22:28
Speaker 1: I have to be in community with these people, and
22:30
Speaker 1: I have to be grateful for that. And I want
22:33
Speaker 1: those women, especially to know that I see them. And
22:36
Speaker 1: so I turned around and ran back to her name
22:38
Speaker 1: was Andrea, looked her in the eye, heard her story
22:42
Speaker 1: want you know, gave her a moment, and then we
22:45
Speaker 1: just kept I just kept on running because that's what
22:49
Speaker 1: this is. So for me, like I said, it helped
22:53
Speaker 1: me to prepare myself for the fact that I don't
22:56
Speaker 1: know if I'm going to get stopped, but if I
22:58
Speaker 1: am I feel like I have been blessed with this platform.
23:03
Speaker 1: Now I've worked my butt off to get here. But
23:06
Speaker 1: I also believe that God gave me this opportunity. And
23:10
Speaker 1: if I believe that someone greater, something greater than me,
23:14
Speaker 1: gave me this moment, this opportunity, this community of fans
23:18
Speaker 1: and readers, then I am going to own that responsibility
23:24
Speaker 1: and be present for them if they have a moment
23:27
Speaker 1: with me out in the world. UM agree with you.
23:31
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Rachel Hollis. Hey, Rachel, okay, you know
23:33
Speaker 1: that's Rael. I didn't see that coming like that. I
23:39
Speaker 1: didn't see that coming. Uh you know, Rachel, I I
23:42
Speaker 1: managed Steve Harvey for like sixteen years of infect you
23:45
Speaker 1: those one good Friends and two thousand he was a
23:48
Speaker 1: very popular comedian. And and then I did did the
23:51
Speaker 1: Family if You Deal? I did the Hoppercolin Deals with
23:54
Speaker 1: the books that so millions worldwide, was translated in over
23:58
Speaker 1: thirty different languages, and each step that went along, more
24:02
Speaker 1: fame came his way, and I just got to watch.
24:05
Speaker 1: So I when I hear your story, I I look
24:07
Speaker 1: back and reflect because I truly understand what you're talking about.
24:11
Speaker 1: And he stepped along the way he used to fight it.
24:13
Speaker 1: He used to fight that that that massive amount of
24:17
Speaker 1: fame that came in the responsibility that came with that
24:19
Speaker 1: fame and defining what was Hiver, What was his role
24:23
Speaker 1: in all of this? I remember, you know, in in
24:26
Speaker 1: twenty nine, two thousand nine, the book Think Like Act Like,
24:29
Speaker 1: They Think Like a Man came out. You know, so
24:32
Speaker 1: three million copies were on Oprah, like regular on Oprah.
24:35
Speaker 1: We so sixty books in one day while sitting on
24:38
Speaker 1: Oprah and uh, and you know, that's a massive amount
24:41
Speaker 1: of books to sell. And uh and then uh and
24:44
Speaker 1: then and then and then I did the Family Feud deals,
24:48
Speaker 1: so we kind of crossed over. We went from a
24:50
Speaker 1: very popular black comedian to uh, the comedian who was
24:54
Speaker 1: being recognized as the people thought that was a joke,
24:58
Speaker 1: a black comedian talking about relationship hips, and they just
25:00
Speaker 1: exploded worldwide. And then with the Family Feud, and we
25:04
Speaker 1: was crossing over, you know, even though our talk show
25:06
Speaker 1: and then the talk show launched in twelve and so
25:10
Speaker 1: I remember, Ineen, we was walking in Chicago and it's
25:13
Speaker 1: large group of from the Asian community came over and
25:18
Speaker 1: they couldn't speak English law, but they knew who he was,
25:21
Speaker 1: and I went, I looked at him. I said, Steve,
25:24
Speaker 1: your life would never be the same, brother, I said,
25:28
Speaker 1: I said, they can't even speak English and they know
25:30
Speaker 1: who Yeah, they know who you are. And it has
25:35
Speaker 1: not been the same every since. And and I recognize
25:38
Speaker 1: what you're saying, because you know, Rachel, You're only gonna
25:42
Speaker 1: get bigger. You're You're you're introducing yourself and your brand
25:45
Speaker 1: to my market. My markets are predominant African American market.
25:49
Speaker 1: Of my followers are female. I think they just like
25:52
Speaker 1: the way I bake. But of course I think I
25:54
Speaker 1: do some nice things that motivate them to be successful
25:57
Speaker 1: because they are entrepreneurs. Like I'm really big and pushing
25:59
Speaker 1: our trepreneurs both male and female, and my my whole
26:03
Speaker 1: volume of money making conversation. But when I when I
26:05
Speaker 1: read your book, my biggest takeaway is that you know
26:08
Speaker 1: your mom and and the testament. How women are becoming
26:13
Speaker 1: such an entrepreneur or force in our society today. When
26:17
Speaker 1: I look at women, you shouldn't you have to. You
26:20
Speaker 1: can't wait till one because they are bigger opportunities for
26:23
Speaker 1: I always believe this. My statement is that the COVID
26:26
Speaker 1: as bad as it is allowed me to catch up.
26:29
Speaker 1: It allowed me to level the plan field once I
26:32
Speaker 1: got over the shock of the reality that, Okay, my
26:35
Speaker 1: life is gonna change forever. And I didn't know how
26:38
Speaker 1: many gloves I had to take to the grocery store.
26:39
Speaker 1: I didn't know if I needed the matter. I didn't
26:41
Speaker 1: know if I touched a gas pump? Should should? I should?
26:44
Speaker 1: Like the parail, you can find that on the store.
26:47
Speaker 1: What could I wash my hands? When? Once I got
26:48
Speaker 1: over that shock, Rachel, I was good. I was good? Yeah, yeah, well,
26:54
Speaker 1: And I think for this is always true for entrepreneurs
26:58
Speaker 1: and business owners that I have such a heart for
27:00
Speaker 1: this community as well, because I've been a business owner
27:03
Speaker 1: for seventeen years. And what I know to be true
27:07
Speaker 1: is we're not at the end of this. If we
27:12
Speaker 1: found a cure today, we still would deal with the
27:16
Speaker 1: economic fallout from what has happened for years. And I
27:21
Speaker 1: don't say that to freak people out. I say it
27:24
Speaker 1: because as leaders and as business owners, we have to
27:27
Speaker 1: be aware. It's not something to have fear about. It's okay,
27:32
Speaker 1: what do I need to do to make sure me
27:35
Speaker 1: and my team, me and my family are good? How
27:38
Speaker 1: do I need to show up. How do I need
27:40
Speaker 1: a pivot? How do I need to serve the community,
27:43
Speaker 1: the customer, the clients that I have, so that I
27:46
Speaker 1: can continue to grow, so that I can continue to expand.
27:51
Speaker 1: I think we've all seen this. We've seen businesses who
27:55
Speaker 1: have not been able to handle the pressure, and we've
27:59
Speaker 1: seen businesses that have pivoted. Like you know, I live
28:02
Speaker 1: in Austin, right, so I remember Tito's Tito's vodka, which
28:06
Speaker 1: is my favorite saying to mix into a cocktail. Um.
28:09
Speaker 1: When it first happened, you saw all of these liquor companies.
28:13
Speaker 1: They were like, all right, we're making hand sanitizer. Now.
28:16
Speaker 1: We just saw. We saw restaurants that had never ever
28:20
Speaker 1: had driver figure out how to do delivery or curbside.
28:23
Speaker 1: We we just saw. I love it because we've seen
28:27
Speaker 1: the human spirit. We've seen the human spirit show up
28:31
Speaker 1: again and again. And you know, I think about this
28:34
Speaker 1: a lot because I have pivoted. I feel like I've
28:38
Speaker 1: pivoted twenty times since March. You know, my my business
28:43
Speaker 1: was predominantly from live events that I can't do anymore,
28:49
Speaker 1: and that you know, you pee your parts over that.
28:53
Speaker 1: That's a that's a punch in the face and you
28:56
Speaker 1: can sort of sit down. And so many people, so
28:59
Speaker 1: many people were like, just you know, close down this thing,
29:02
Speaker 1: just get rid of this thing. And I'm like, nope,
29:05
Speaker 1: I will find a way. And So what I would
29:09
Speaker 1: say to those of you who are listening, who you've
29:11
Speaker 1: got that side hustle, you've got that business, you're you're
29:14
Speaker 1: you're trying to grow and expand you have got to
29:18
Speaker 1: stay focused on where you are going. You have got
29:22
Speaker 1: to fill up your cup only with the words and
29:26
Speaker 1: the inspiration of people who are thinking like you are thinking,
29:30
Speaker 1: meaning like, go watch those motivational videos on YouTube, Go
29:34
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts that are going to inspire you. Because
29:37
Speaker 1: if you listen to the world, if you listen to
29:40
Speaker 1: maybe your mama, your friends, maybe your spouse, people are
29:44
Speaker 1: so scared right now, and their fear will take hold
29:48
Speaker 1: of your heart if you let it. And so I
29:50
Speaker 1: just keep my eyes on the horizon. I keep my
29:54
Speaker 1: eyes on the horizon. I know where I'm going. I
29:56
Speaker 1: do not let other people speak their fear into my heart,
30:00
Speaker 1: and I stay focused. Because the biggest some of the
30:04
Speaker 1: biggest companies in the world were built inside of a
30:08
Speaker 1: recession and if you can just keep your eyes on
30:12
Speaker 1: where you are going, to keep doing the work, keep
30:14
Speaker 1: expanding the ways that you need to expand you will
30:17
Speaker 1: come out the other side of this stronger and you
30:20
Speaker 1: will have surpassed people who couldn't stay in the fight.
30:23
Speaker 1: So just keep focused on where you're going and keep going,
30:28
Speaker 1: my friend thirty minutes. Okay, our relationship has been flying along,
30:33
Speaker 1: and it means it's been a great interview. Or Rachel
30:35
Speaker 1: Hollis new book. Didn't see that coming, HarperCollins. I made
30:38
Speaker 1: a lot of money with Happer Collins, so I know
30:40
Speaker 1: they know me over there. Three number one best sellers
30:44
Speaker 1: there were kept in the business there and I think
30:46
Speaker 1: in two thousand nine. But again, thanks for coming to
30:49
Speaker 1: my show. If you be a regular on my show.
30:51
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, thank you. You're amazing. Uh we are,
30:56
Speaker 1: you know. We we obviously grew up differently, obviously your
31:00
Speaker 1: ers are differently. But I so relate to what you
31:03
Speaker 1: are experiencing, what you're trying to say to my audience
31:05
Speaker 1: as well as to your audience. And uh, again, the
31:08
Speaker 1: future is on the outside and uh, and the future
31:10
Speaker 1: means we always speak to each other again in the future.
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Speaker 1: Thank you Rachel for coming. Bye bye, thank you. If
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