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Canelo-Crawford and Inoue · Boxing B-Sides

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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
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Let's fucking go. Boxing B -Sides. We're back,
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bitch. We are just we're not talking about anything
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but Canelo Crawford. Well, that's not entirely
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true because there's just a little bit of other
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shit. But so let's get into that other stuff
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coming up on Thursday. Never forget September
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11th. Oh, I didn't even do an introduction. Boxing
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B -sides, joined by Josh and Saul. We're that
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excited for 9 -11. I am that fucking excited
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for Canelo Crawford. I completely fucking shat
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the bed there. Alright, how are you guys doing?
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Are you guys fucking pumped for this weekend?
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Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I've been waiting
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for it for fucking two years. Really? You haven't
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been waiting for this fight for years? No, I've
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been waiting for Canelo to fight Benavidez or
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Morel for years. Yeah, but you're kind of silly
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if you ever thought that was going to happen,
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so that's kind of you. Oh, yeah. And Bud leaving
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top rank was also one of my fantasies. You got
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a lot of fantasies that don't happen, dude. Sorry.
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Oh, man. Before we get to the main dish, main
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part of the dish, let's knock out some other
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shit. Thursday, September 11th, never forget.
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It's The Ring Presents The Underdog. There's
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not a whole lot of shit on there, but the only
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one I really care about, Anthony Olasquaga, the
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WBO flyweight champ versus Juan Carlos Camacho.
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That should be fun. If you like the little guys.
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If you like little people, yeah. That sounds
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fucked up. If you're like Shinada that loves
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the smaller weight classes. Yeah, it's a good
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day for you. Oh, man. One other card on Saturday,
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September 13th. This one's in the UK, so no worries
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about time overlaps. There's some interesting
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stuff on this card. I'll just cherry pick on
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my way up here. Molly McCann, former UFC fighter
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making her boxing debut. So that should be fun.
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Pat Brown is a British Olympian. And this is
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his fourth fight. So he's doing pretty well.
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Pat Brown. Don't care, don't care. Lewis Crocker
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versus Patty Donovan for the IBF welterweight
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title. This is a rematch, grudge match. Last
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one ended in a DQ, as you might recall. So I'm
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expecting fireworks here. Do we want to do Inouye
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first or save that for the end? Let's do Inoue
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first. I was supposed to do Inoue and top playing
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cards first because it's going to be... I was
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going to say like... Go ahead. We actually have
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a decent card here. Sunday, September 14th. Ohashi
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at the IG Arena in Nagoya, Japan. There's a bunch
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of bullshit on here. Co -main event. Yoshiki
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Takei versus Christian Medina. For the WBO bantamweight
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title. That should be good. Takei is a fun fighter.
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But the main event, Naoya Inoue versus Morochan
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Akamadaliyev, aka MJ. Josh, I think you had a
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good summary of the event. MJ, it's been good
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knowing you. You are fucked. It's going to be
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good to watch, but like... The expectation is
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just MJ. MJ's done. You know he's going to run
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him over. I'm going to try to play devil's advocate.
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Okay. He'll maybe last eight rounds. There you
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go. That's my devil's advocate. That's a good
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devil's advocate. That's a good devil's advocate.
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I can't say anything more than that, honestly.
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If it goes the distance with any way, I'll be
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surprised. So let me throw out maybe some things
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that will change your mind on how this goes.
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Naoya, in a way, struggles with southpaws. MJ
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is a southpaw. Does that change your mind at
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all? No, no. By struggles, you mean, like, takes
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longer to stop. Yes. MJ's not a good southpaw,
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and his last outing, look, he looked bad. He
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actually looked bad. So... He's got a chance
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to hit the hill. MJ shares... He's a stable mate
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of Ramon Cardenas. A guy who got stopped by NA.
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He gave him all he could handle. Like a solid
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eight rounds. Yeah, but I mean... He doesn't
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have the power of that guy. He doesn't have the
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power of Ramon. So I was thinking also because
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that's eight rounds of experience that MJ's coach
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has. Eight rounds of, in a way, experience. Yeah,
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but it's all for the fighter. I mean, we give,
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like, BOMAC fighters, they get, like, a little
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buff. Yeah, that's BOMAC, though. Oh, well. It's
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different. You know? Now, if you're saying someone
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like Eddie, you know, Eddie Reynoso, I wouldn't
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give someone a buck just because they're with
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Eddie Reynoso. You know? Eddie Reynoso doesn't
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train dynamic fighters. Fair enough. Oh, Mac
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does. He trains Canelo. Same thing with Boze
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Ennis, at least from what I've seen. Well, Canelo,
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we're going to get to that right now, but I mean,
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come on. I mean, come on. Come on. Let's get
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right into that. That's like the one -handed
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wonder fucking CeeLo Green type shit. Oh, my
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God. It's a one -hit wonder. Of your personal
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pound -for -pound top three, or top five, where
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is Inoue? Inoue? That's just hating, dude. That's
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hating. I have him at two. Usyk one. That's hating.
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Usyk one, Inoue two isn't even hating. It's hating.
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Come on. That's hating. Once Crawford beats Canelo,
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you're going to put him at... No, I'm going to
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say Canelo was never good. Yeah, yeah. So I'm
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still going to have Crawford like five. All right.
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We'll talk about it right now. But either way,
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I agree somewhat. I agree somewhat. I agree somewhat.
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So if he's not number two, and that's hating,
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then you've got to have him at number one. Is
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that where you're at? Not really. I would put...
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I think him and Crawford are tied right now.
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For first or second? Second. Second. All right.
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I can't put Crawford above any way. I can't put
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any way above Crawford. Oh, my God. I have him
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at number two. Yeah, he's already getting fucking...
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Oh, my God, bro. We'll get to it right now. We'll
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get to it. Dude, just because you fucking hate
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Crawford doesn't mean he's not a good fighter.
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Yeah. It's not even hate. I have Bud. Like, my
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haters list, like, Bud is three or four. Bud
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is three or four on my list. It's not even hating.
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Like, Usyk and Inouye are not moving. Okay, the
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thing is, Usyk is not going to move at all. Usyk
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is where he's at right now. He's at number one,
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pound for pound, greatest in the world right
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now. Yeah, I'm keeping Inouye at number two.
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I mean, bro, it's Crawford, dude. Inouye's clearing
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out divisions and he's not fighting guys like
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Ndongo. Hold it. I might even start, bro. He
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already started it. I'm not continuing it. We
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need to wrap up the Inouye section and then we
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can get into Canelo versus Crawford and their
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merits. All right. So that was the question.
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You have them at number two. We all have them
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at second. I agree. I agree. I was kind of just
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trying to bait. I just want to see what you say.
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So everybody, we have them pound for pound number
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two, arguably number one, depending on what your
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criteria is. But yeah, this is a guy to watch.
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I mean, if you're listening to this, you already
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fucking know that. Let's get to what we're here
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for. TKO promotions on Netflix. That felt gross
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to say. TKO promotions. Yeah. Fucking nasty.
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All right. So from the bottom up, let's knock
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out all the other shit before we get to the main
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course. Sultan Al -Muhammad versus Martin Caraballo.
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Lightweights. I don't know who they are. Marco
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Verde versus Marcos Osorio. Verde is apparently
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an Olympian. Was a silver medalist. Yeah, he's
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a silver. He's fought on the Canelo goal undercard.
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Nice. Body shot. Oh, those are the best. Moving
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up, Reito Tsutsumi versus Javier Martinez. Tsutsumi
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is a ring fighter. It starts at a negative opinion,
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but he's pretty fun to watch. I'll admit. Yeah,
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he's not bad. He's been on the past couple of
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these cards. Yeah, he's a ring guy. He was on
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ring three. The Times Square? Yeah, no, no, no.
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Ring three, Berlanga. He was on ring three with
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Berlanga? No, that was, I think, his brother.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hayato. Yeah, that's right.
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Hayato Susumi. Moving up, the high fashion Stephen
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Nelson versus Raiko Santana. Fucking M. Bison.
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M. Bison. Tupac cosplay. Nelson. M. Nelson. Moving
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up, Ivan Ditchko versus Jermaine Franklin. Imagine
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that. Hey, man, I'm excited to see Jermaine Franklin
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back in. Is he the high hope of American heavyweights?
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No, he just gives guys fits. It's good. He's
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a good guy to be in the division, in the mix.
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I think it's going to be a shout -out with this
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Ukrainian guy. I don't know. Yeah, I think they're
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bringing in Jermaine Franklin. out of obscurity
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for some great value. I don't think that Chico
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couldn't do it. He's kind of old as fuck and
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hasn't really left. Like, his best win is probably
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Ariel Esteban -Racamonte. I mean, what's Jermaine
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Franklin's best win? Yeah, but the thing is,
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he doesn't have a good win, but he's also hung
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in there with Anthony Joshua and Dylan Wise.
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I mean... Oh, here it is. Jerry Forrest. Jerry
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Forrest. There we go. That's his best win. All
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right. All right. Yeah. All right. I mean, neither
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of them have bad or good wins, but I'm just...
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No, I just, like... I mean, this guy, he's an
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Eastern European, so, I mean, I got to give him
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that kind of buff. Oh, he hasn't been, like...
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I don't know. That's because I'm rather high
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on Jermaine Franklin. That might be a brand new
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sentence. I'm high on Jermaine Franklin, even
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if he has no power, just because, like, you know
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what, man? You give guys fits, that's okay. Well,
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I'm high on fucking William Scholl. You're high
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on William Scholl. You're high, period, to be
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high on William Scholl. Yeah, if you're high
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up, period. Be on fucking high on Jermaine Franklin,
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bro. It's heavyweights, dude. I mean, you're
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right. Yeah, you're right. Anything can happen.
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What the fuck am I? You're right. Anything can
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happen. That's heavyweights, man. I'm just going
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to say, the guy who's 35 and only fights once
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a year against no -hopers versus, yeah, Jermaine
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Franklin hasn't fought in a hot minute, but...
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And what is a hot minute? What is a hot minute?
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One year. A year and a bit. Yeah. That's quite
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a while. Yeah. So you gotta be fair. You gotta
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be fair. It's an obvious fight. I know. But Jermaine
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Franklin can fight. Yeah. Yeah. He's got heart.
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He's got heart. I will say he's got heart. I'm
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gonna say like it's like you know like So it's
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a good step up for Ditchco. Yeah. I genuinely
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think it's more to position the winner as an
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opponent for, like, Itama. I think Jermaine Franklin
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fits that bill either way. Yeah, but, like, perfect.
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The winner of this fight is in a perfect position
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to fight Itama as, like, a sort of step up from
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White. I don't know. I just think it's going
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to be a pretty fun, like, two fat dudes punch
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each other for 12 rounds, and Jermaine Franklin's
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going to eke out a decision. Yeah, I mean, it'll
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be a fun fight, you know? That's my honest prediction.
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Like, it's not, oh, Jermaine Franklin is this,
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like, unpolished gem, because, like, an unpolished
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gem could have beaten Billy White. I just, like,
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I'm not that high on Deichko, and, like... I
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think Franklin will have a bit more in the tank
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down the stretch. I mean, I don't know. We'll
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see when the fight happens. We're going to have
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to set up Discord roles just for you two. Just
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for us. Just for us. I'm crazy. All right. Moving
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up to Callum Walsh versus Fernando Vargas Jr.
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Wait, hold on. You missed one. You missed one.
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Which one? Did you miss Bochuk? That's next.
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No, that's next, bro. Oh, sorry. Read the outline.
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On the main card? Yeah. Oh, they're moving to
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the main card. That's pretty cool. It could be
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in the prelims. The way that I have them ordered
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is how much do I care? Oh, okay. Oh, okay. So
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why the hell did you put fucking Jermaine Franklin
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under Canelo Crawford? The last bastion of American
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heavyweight boxing. I gotta believe. Yeah, we
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gotta believe, man. Come on. I'm a believer.
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Callum Walsh versus Fernando Vargas. Not the
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best Vargas brother. Callum Walsh is alright.
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Also not the worst. Yeah. He's not the worst
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brother either, that's for sure. So, I don't
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know. These two guys are at about equal footing.
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So this is a good make or break. Break into contention.
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I want to say I'm rooting for Fernando Vargas
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Jr. I really am because Kellen Walsh is going
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to be fucking... That's the UFC guy. That's Dana's
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guy. I want him to be Dana. I want a Marv Nation
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dude to be fucking Dana's guy. All right? I mean,
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Fernando Vargas Jr., he's not bad, you know?
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I mean, we talk smack about him, but he's not
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bad. No, he's not terrible at all. I think...
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I was watching the interview with him the other
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day. He believed in himself. He truly believes
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in himself to win that fight. The way he sounds,
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I don't know. He sounds confident in himself.
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I gotta give it to him. I think he's gonna bring
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it in the fight. He's not gonna back down, at
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least. He's not gonna run away. If you look at
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his... His resume, I mean, it's not bad. It's
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17 wins, 15 knockouts. Albeit, it's a Marv Nation
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fighter, but it's not bad. Colin Walsh, I mean...
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I don't know. What's the word? Fucking Marv Nation?
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Or UFC bypass? Oh, Marv Nation. Wait, what's
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the worst? Yeah, what's the worst? Oh, I would
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take Marv Nation over UFC Fight Pass any day
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of the week. Yeah. I mean, the only thing is
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that this guy, he's also got 14 wins, 11 knockouts.
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So, I mean, it really depends. I mean, the guy
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is not the best. They're both not the best, but
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I think it'll be a good fight. It'll still be
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pretty fun. Vargas has, he's 17 -0 with 15 knockouts.
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It's an even match. They're pretty evenly matched,
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but I'm going with Vargas for sure. I'm surprised.
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Isn't he the B -side? He's not a favorite? I
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think just because it's UFC, UFC in -house type,
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that they'll have Callum Walsh. I hope Fernando
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Vargas has a good chin. I'll tell you that. Because
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this Irish guy, I mean, you know, Mickey Ward.
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Yeah, Irish dudes come to Rumble, and they usually
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have baby hands. Yeah. Yeah, Fernando too. Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, that's all you can really say about
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that, yeah. This is a good fight. This is a quality
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scrap. This is a quality scrap. Yeah. I just
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wish it wasn't coming. That's actually ridiculous.
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Oh, boy. That's brutal. Don't even. Don't even.
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All right, let's move up. Sergey Bohochuk versus
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Brandon Adams. Rematch. Was the first fight,
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the quick knockout, was that a fluke, do you
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think? Because Bohochuk has taken some heavy
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hitters, and he survived. It was a TKO in the
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eighth round. It was the eighth round? Yes. Oh,
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shit. I thought it was earlier. I thought it
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was like the first two. Nope. I think this is
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kind of a banana peel to fuck over Boa Chug.
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This could go... Yeah. He's a... He's a very...
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He's a rather dangerous fight for most of the
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guys. Turkey wants to push at 154. And... another
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loss to brandon adams a brandon adams is a lot
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more a lot less steep of a challenge for um the
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non -virgils of the division but it also takes
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boa chuck out of the picture for the most part
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i mean hypothetically brandon adams wins i mean
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come on no i know that's a guy for boots to beat
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on basically You got a guy's way you gotta get
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you now now instead of a guy of comparable size
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the boots who? like Can totally box and bang
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You have a 36 year old guy who is now a good
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bit smaller than boots Just like it's a let's
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a better fit for boots to beat up and counter
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a smaller guy than to have to really boxed with
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a guy who isn't trying to avoid him. Bojack's
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going to go for it. Well, if Bojack loses, he's
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going to be out of the picture for sure. Yeah,
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that's what I mean. It's going to be a rough
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way back. Because, I mean, right now he's rated
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number one in the WBC, right? He's got that number
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one ranking. Oof. That would be tough. if he
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slipped, like you called it a banana peel. I
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think that's exactly right. Yeah, like Bochuk
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should absolutely get it back, but the thing
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is that Brandon Adams did wear him down and stop
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him. It's totally something. Like, it's not impossible
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for this to just be, ah, Bochuk lost and took
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himself out of the picture. You know? Like, it's
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a happy coincidence if Bochuk loses again to
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this guy who is... A better style matchup for
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the guys you want to push at this weight class.
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I mean, yeah, but what if Bochuk knocks him out?
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I mean, I got a feeling that Bochuk... Oh, well,
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then on the card of this magnitude, you keep
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Bochuk in the mix. Yeah. It's a win -win. Either
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you have another guy at this weight class, or
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you have an opponent at this weight class. Guarantee
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if he wins this fight, he's going to go to Mattrum.
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Guarantee. Either guy. This is very much promoter
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leaves with the winner. I take that back. Guaranteed
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he's going to go to TKO. Boho Chuck, I think,
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is with 360 as well. Yeah. It's not bad. It's
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not going to be hard to fucking switch. 360 promotions
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is going to become a feeder promo. Gross. I mean,
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they don't really have any guys, huh? No, they
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don't, but still. It's still gross. It's still
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UFC. Yeah, like, we don't want them in the sport,
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damn it. Yucky, yucky. Sorry, Ultimate fucking
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Casuals, but... I don't even think... They don't
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like Dana either, dude. They like the sport.
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Yeah, the fans of the sport. It just so happens
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that UFC has the best people. If it was another
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organization, then UFC could get fucked. If they
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had good people, it's pretty secondary. Is he
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fighting, though? That's true. He's more of a
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boxer than a PFL fighter. He's MIA. Hey, no,
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but allegedly he's fighting Wilder. Oh, right.
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I'd watch that shit. It'd be funny. Oh, hell
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yeah, I'd watch it, but... Hey, Brent, fuck no.
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240 -year -old man. Is what I would say on opposite
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day. Anything more for Bohochuk and Brandon Adams?
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Well, Leo, what do you think about it? You think
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the same thing? What do I think? Yeah, you gotta
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give us your opinion, dude. Come on. Oh, man.
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This is your fucking podcast. Come on, man. I
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was up to the mic. This is your podcast. This
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is true. Well, I just enjoyed listening to you
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two bicker with each other. Well, I love you.
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Thank you for that. But I'm going to rip this
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fucking dude's head off right now. Bo Hachuk,
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I think he's going to get this one back, and
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I think he's going to get it back emphatically.
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He's in his most recent, of their most recent
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resume, Bo Hachuk has, like, all stars on it.
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And Brandon Adams has overtime. OTX. You could
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say that means that Brandon Adams has had less
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wear than Bohachuk has, but I don't know. I think
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Bohachuk's got the experience now, and he's going
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to get this one back convincingly. I agree. Now.
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Let's move up to Christian Mbili versus Lester
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Martinez. Interim WBC title on the line. Ooh,
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baby. Ooh, baby. I'll start here. Ooh, baby.
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Lester Martinez has been cutting his teeth on
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Probox. Probox good. Probox good. Let's go. So
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Lester's been cutting his teeth in. Hard matchups,
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and he's been winning them with relative ease.
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Whereas Christian Mbili, his best win is Derevyanchenko.
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Probably. And he struggled against a guy that
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had a torn bicep pretty much the entire fight.
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I'm digging Lester Martinez on this one. As much
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as I've been high on Mbili coming up, because
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he's super exciting to watch. I'm still feeling
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Lester Martinez on this one. Unfortunately, Mbili's
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going to get found out. Because that's how I
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think it goes anyway. What do you guys think?
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Josh, you go first. I think it's going to be
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a fun -ass fight. That's the big one. If Mbili
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gets found out, excellent. Like, we got a guy
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on the stage who's cut his teeth on ProBucks.
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And you know what? If Mbili happens to be made
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of tougher stuff, then good. He's who we thought
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he was. I think the winner of this becomes an
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intriguing Canelo opponent. That's the big thing
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that I want. More than. You think he's going
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to become an intriguing Canelo opponent? You
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think he becomes a Canelo opponent? An intriguing
27:30
Canelo opponent. It's not going to happen. I
27:33
think he becomes an intriguing option. Hold on,
27:37
let me look at 168, because I want to see who
27:39
else is there. See if there's anybody that maybe
27:43
you find more deserving. Oh, fuck. All that's
27:49
really left is Hamza Shiraz. That Shiraz doesn't
27:53
deserve that shit. No, yeah, and Billy, more
27:56
intriguing, by far. We know Shiraz is going to
27:59
get it, though, because he's Turkey's pet. So,
28:05
what do you got? Let me take this. Let me take
28:08
this. All right. I agree with both you guys.
28:14
It's a tricky fight, no doubt about it. I think
28:16
whoever wins this fight is going to become a
28:22
power player in the future, no doubt about it.
28:26
But to get a shot at Canelo, we obviously know
28:29
who he's going to fight next. It's going to be
28:30
fucking Hamish Uraz. That's... Pretty damn obvious.
28:35
Either him or fucking Eubank. We already know
28:39
about that. Oh, yeah. I think... I think... It's
28:45
okay. It's hard for me to say he's going to win
28:46
a fight, dude. It's really hard. Because... Whereas...
28:51
I mean, Lester Martinez has the pro box buff,
28:55
right? But... And Billy, he's been... He's been
28:59
looking pretty good these last couple fights.
29:01
You know? Especially the last fight, he knocked
29:04
out Slecky, a guy that went eight rounds with
29:07
Deco Pacheco, in one round. I think it was the
29:11
first or second, right? Was it the first or second?
29:14
First. First? Okay. First. Okay, so he knocked
29:18
him out in the first round. I think that's pretty
29:20
good. That's a pretty good look on his resume.
29:24
Whereas Lester Martinez, who was his best win?
29:27
Nobody with a name. It's nobody with a name.
29:30
it's nobody with a name but the thing is that
29:32
just the way pro box matches their guys like
29:35
they're all guys they're all solid guys who just
29:39
happen to not have a name so getting out of that
29:43
like murderer's row basically of like no names
29:49
with no names with skills basically Because it's
29:54
not like the names are against. It's not like
29:57
most of his fights are against. Like, no hopers.
30:00
Like, guys with a couple draws, guys with a couple
30:04
losses. Like, it's all winning records, really.
30:06
All the pro box ones, at least. I see what you're
30:10
saying. Yeah, no skills. They got skills. So
30:16
it's not like he crushed cans on his way up.
30:19
It's just... Again, different stage than Mbili.
30:23
Mbili definitely has the big, like, not the big
30:26
fight edge, but, like, the fact that he's been
30:29
under the lights a little bit more and has the
30:32
better name wins. But, like, it's still, like,
30:37
the way Mbili's style works is, like, a guy,
30:42
like a hidden gem, like Martinez may pan out
30:46
to be, can totally... expose him, to say the
30:52
least. You know? If Mbili's cut from a different
30:56
cloth, like Benavidez turned out to be, for sure.
31:00
Go ahead. And he gets full credit for beating
31:02
the shit out of Lester Martinez. I'm gonna be
31:06
honest, I can go either way on this one. Yeah,
31:08
like I'm saying, but what I'm trying to say is
31:10
the same as Leo, like, don't be surprised if
31:12
Martinez pulls it off. No, yeah. I honestly don't
31:17
see this one going the distance also. Oh, no.
31:20
This one is... I don't know. I think this one
31:24
is going to be probably the fight of the night.
31:27
I'm going to call right now. This is going to
31:28
be the fight of the night. Unless you're too
31:29
scared to fucking fight, it's destined to be
31:32
fight of the night because you have two guys
31:35
that are fucking vloggers. I mean, Lester Martinez,
31:38
I think, honestly, Lester Martinez has shown
31:40
me a little more dynamic. He's a little dynamic
31:45
to his game, you know? Yeah, I got you. But Christian
31:48
Billy just looks more like a... Looks stronger,
31:51
you know? I don't know. He's a higher volume.
31:56
Yeah, higher volume, yeah. And you're right.
31:59
He did go to war with fucking a one -armed Derevyanchenko.
32:04
I mean, so... There's that. There is that. Great
32:09
that Derevyanchenko hasn't... He's been knocked
32:12
out, right? He's been knocked out by Moguia.
32:15
He's not knocked out. Yeah, he... No, Derevyanchenko
32:19
is, like, super tough. Yeah. So, I mean, it really
32:25
depends on who you like more, you know? I think
32:29
that's really what you gotta consider, you know?
32:32
I like the guys equally. I think maybe N 'Billy
32:36
can pull it off if... Yeah. His power is really
32:40
what I think it is. A good fight to look at for
32:44
both of these two is their fights with Carlos
32:48
Gongora. Oh, yes. Because Mbili had a fucking
32:52
war with Gongora. And it looks like Lester Martinez
33:00
swept them. Yeah, looking at the scorecards.
33:03
9 -1, 9 -1, and 10 -0. versus Bailey, he went
33:10
to war with him. He was like, what? Wasn't it
33:13
184? Do you have an 84 card? Uh... Don't buy
33:19
me four. Let me check. Uh... Oh, shit. 918273.
33:32
I'm not so... I don't know. From what I remember
33:35
of that fight, those are... kind of a little
33:37
wide if they don't really tell the story of what
33:39
happened. Just my take. But still, if you want
33:43
to do, for you, whoever's listening, you want
33:45
to do some film study on these two, check out
33:48
their Gungora fights. Gungora's super tough.
33:51
Heavy, heavy hands, too. So, wow. Demonstrates
33:55
Imbili's chin. I mean, look, look, Imbili...
33:58
Imbili's without a tiger, too, so even if he
34:02
wins, I mean, he's going to get kept back anyways.
34:04
He'll be held back. Do it really? Yeah. Why is
34:09
that? Because I'm a tiger. Oh, yeah, you're right.
34:16
Either way, he's going to go far. Yeah, but as
34:21
long as they let him out the damn stable. Or
34:26
if they're willing to shell out to bring people
34:28
to him. Yeah, that's true. And Provox, they're
34:33
good about letting their guys go. When they,
34:36
you know, when they quote -unquote graduate.
34:40
Yeah, when they're ready, they'll put them out.
34:41
Or when they want to get... When they need to
34:44
fill in a fucking fight. There you go. Yeah.
34:49
Anything more for Mbili Martinez? Final predictions?
34:53
Damn good fight. That's what I'm predicting.
34:55
If it's not a good fight, then box is it. I'm
35:00
edging Martinez. Pause. I'm edging towards leaning
35:05
towards Martinez on this one. Oh, absolutely.
35:07
Is it because of that Roblox buff? Yeah. Yeah,
35:11
no, I get it. I get it. Versus the Eye of the
35:13
Tiger debuff. That's true. That's true. You know
35:16
what? You might have just swung me to the other
35:18
side. Because the Eye of the Tiger debuff goes
35:22
crazy. Main event. Are you ready? Are you guys
35:33
ready? Is Joshua ready? Canelo fucking Alvarez
35:38
versus Terrence Bud Crawford. Terrence Allen
35:42
Bud Crawford. Terrence Allen Bud Crawfish? Yep.
35:49
Versus Plodnello. Oh, Josh, start us off here.
35:56
Because you've got some heat. You've had heat
36:00
before about Terrence Crawford. I've had heat
36:03
before. Honestly, I think Canelo's diminished
36:07
enough and Crawford is... He's not good enough
36:13
to move up that many weight classes at once and
36:15
win, but it'll be... It won't be boring. There's
36:19
going to be a conclusive ending, hopefully. That
36:25
being said, that was when I thought Crawford
36:27
was in shape. Not the picture I've seen recently
36:30
of him looking fat as shit. Well, simply send
36:34
me the picture. Yeah, I want to see this. Hold
36:36
on. I got to see. Did we find it? I saw it the
36:41
other day in the chat. He looked ripped the other
36:44
day. I'll tell you that, but I don't know. That
36:47
looks like a... No, no, no. Not the edited one.
36:50
Not the Photoshop one. Okay. Is that the one
36:55
where he's hanging out with a kid or something
36:56
like that? Yeah, he's hanging out with some guy,
36:58
and he looks fat as fuck. Yeah, here it is. Let
37:02
me see. This is a current pic here, the comparison
37:05
of the current, like, meeting up with a guy in
37:08
Vegas in chat, putting it in general. It just
37:12
said, like, two days ago on the left. Oh, that's
37:15
Ilya Teporia. That's the picture that everyone's
37:18
talking about. Yeah, and I'm like, okay. If he
37:23
looked ripped like he always does, okay, man.
37:25
Like, you're showing up in shape. You're taking
37:27
this shit serious. What is this? Looks like Steven
37:30
Nelson. That's dad butt. What the fuck is this?
37:32
What is this, bro? Like, listen, man. I get it.
37:35
I get it. I get it. He's skilled. He definitely
37:39
has the skills to be able to give Canelo at least
37:43
a good run for his money. But looking like this,
37:47
fuck no. Looking like Tim Bradley? Fuck no like
37:53
timber at like you could confuse it for Tim Bradley.
37:58
I Don't know dude that body type That is kind
38:01
of you can see some flab on the other side. That's
38:03
kind of crazy Doesn't the say like like it looks
38:06
like he does look fat as shit for like It's like
38:11
which is it? Which is it? You could see the airbrush
38:13
on the other one Yeah, yeah like He's never been
38:18
that ripped, but also I didn't expect him to
38:21
be showing up with the keg. I was about to say,
38:24
he's built like me right now. Yeah, I was about
38:27
to say. If you're built like that, bro, goddamn.
38:31
You could beat anybody up. What, like Terrence
38:34
Crawford? Terrence Crawford, one week out. Fourth
38:39
of July weekend, out on the lake. That looks
38:42
good, bro. Yeah, like Crawford's had like three
38:45
Cronas at this point. Yeah, maybe he was just
38:49
out of shit ton of water. You never know. Could
38:51
be. It could be water. You never know. It could
38:54
also be like the lighting and shit, dude. We'll
38:55
never know until the day they take off the shirts.
38:58
Yeah, you know what? I think I'll die laughing
39:01
if Crawford pulls up to the weigh -in with like
39:03
a black t -shirt. He does the Andy Ruiz. Yeah,
39:07
if that happens, yeah, it's cooked. Teddy Andy
39:09
Ruiz, like black t -shirt at the weigh -in. I
39:13
mean, not even that. If you look at his beard,
39:16
if you look at his face, too, it does look pretty...
39:20
Build -in? It doesn't look... It doesn't look
39:25
like he put on some weight, yeah. It does look
39:29
like he put on a little bit of weight, but I
39:30
don't know. Does this make you want to change
39:33
your roll color? No, because... No, no. I want...
39:39
Stay on that side. You're really on the Canelo.
39:43
That's crazy that fucking Josh hates Crawford
39:45
so much he's on the Canelo side. That's pretty
39:49
crazy. It's just, like, I'm using my brain, man.
39:53
Like, this guy's going up basically three weight
39:56
classes. That fight with Madrimov barely counts
39:58
as, like, moving up to 154. I never said I want
40:02
him. I never said I didn't think. I don't think
40:06
he's going to win. I want him to win. I also
40:10
hate him forever for ruining 147. Well, I guess
40:15
boxing in general since you explained that in
40:17
the other podcast. Yeah, I know. I already explained
40:19
my conspiracy theory. I hate him forever for
40:21
killing my sport. I mean, look. How the fuck
40:26
do you... Okay, listen, man. How are you going
40:30
to... At the same time that he was suing Top
40:35
Rank for being racist to him, he signed the extension
40:38
with them. Where's the logic? Okay, well, how
40:42
can you correlate this with him being fat? I
40:46
don't know. It's karma. It's going to be karma.
40:50
Karmic justice, bro. You know what? The beef
40:54
lard, the lard that people have been sneaking
40:57
into his meals, maybe he's just been going out
40:59
with BOMAC too much. Yeah, you're right. Maybe
41:02
it's him and fucking Rick Lazor. It might be
41:05
him. Bomek and Dan Raphael are doing this to
41:08
him, bro. On that Netflix special, like the preview
41:10
or whatever, like Fight Camp or whatever the
41:12
fuck they're calling it, they had Bomek cooking
41:16
a lot. Oh, God. Yeah, with what? Like beef tallow?
41:20
Yeah, it's got to be. It's got to be. Instead
41:25
of using the spray oil, they straight up rendered
41:29
pork belly grease. Just scoop that shit out of
41:34
the tin right into the pan. Yeah, right out of
41:38
the tub. Extra, like, 6 ,000 calories on top
41:42
of, like, the two eggs that Crawford had for
41:44
breakfast. Dan Raphael comes over, like, hold
41:52
on, bro, not enough. I need the octuple bypass.
41:58
I need the octopal bypass. Yeah, they're in Vegas
42:00
for this fight. Fuck, dude. Maybe they've been
42:05
hitting the heart attack drill. Heart attack
42:08
drill. Crazy. Maybe they've been hitting the
42:10
heart attack drill. This fight is in Vegas. Well,
42:13
Crawford did look like he didn't get spanked,
42:15
so. He doesn't look good. I'll say that. Listen,
42:22
man. The staff there is forklift certified to
42:26
get rid of BOMAC. How many looks do you think
42:30
it takes Bomack to get to the center of a 50
42:33
pop? Fuck, dude. It's just a straight chomp.
42:38
Dude, I don't know, man. You know what? I've
42:40
never seen Dave Blunt and Bomack in the same
42:42
room. That's true. That's all I'm going to say.
42:45
I've never seen those two in the same room. I've
42:48
never seen Lavelle Crawford and Bomack in the
42:50
same room. Oh, man. Like, this picture, like,
42:55
at first, I was like, ah, he'll be competitive.
42:57
I'm gonna fucking hate it. And now I'm like,
43:01
like, I'm happy, but I'm also like, wow, this
43:03
is gonna be the biggest waste of money ever conceived.
43:07
Well... Crawford's gonna show up fat as shit,
43:10
and Canelo's gonna kill him, and then Crawford's
43:12
gonna be like, ah, well, I was fat as shit, and
43:15
out of my prime, I'm retiring as the greatest
43:17
welterweight, whatever, whatever. Yeah, that's
43:19
true. I mean, if he loses, if he loses... When
43:22
he loses. If you... No, it's if. It's if. Because
43:26
you're disregarding... Hold up. You're disregarding
43:29
how washed Canelo is. You sound like my dad right
43:32
now. Yeah, but Canelo's going to show up in shape,
43:34
man. Yeah, I mean, he's going to show up in shape,
43:37
but... Again, it all comes down to if Crawford
43:42
can handle his punches. If he can, I think Crawford
43:45
wins. If not, then Crawford loses. It's simple
43:48
as that. I know if you look at it from purely
43:51
from a skill skill wise cropper beast canelo
43:54
100 everyday 100 no matter what it's like that
43:58
dark string line you know there's only one way
43:59
to win that one way for pinnacle to win skill
44:01
wise by shooting cropper with a gun oh my god
44:04
that's it what you okay you you can't you can't
44:08
tell me i don't think i don't know man i'm not
44:11
saying i'm not saying skills wise at the moment
44:13
i'm saying boxing wise it's not just skills bro
44:17
you're bad You're bad. Boxing isn't just skills.
44:21
You're bad. If it was skills, oddly, Harrison
44:24
would still be the undisputed champion at heavyweight.
44:28
Still. That's a wild thing to say. We'd have
44:32
guys like David Price actually winning fights.
44:35
You really think that Canelo has better skills
44:39
than Crawford? No, I'm saying Canelo has other
44:43
factors, including being in shape. And not...
44:47
not having BOMAC cook for him. Power? Like, power
44:54
and strength? Honestly, you can argue timing,
45:00
and that's about it. Timing? And if Crawford
45:04
shows up on the BOMAC diet like we've been seeing,
45:09
honestly, watch speed be an issue. I mean, if
45:14
BOMAC... If little Bumac over here, Bumac Jr.,
45:18
turns into Crawford this week, I think he'll
45:22
be good. I think he can win in the eyes of the
45:29
audience, but there's no way he's going to win
45:30
against Canelo with a four -fight deal with Turkey.
45:33
Yeah, there's no way. There's no way. It's a
45:35
kangaroo court fight. I'm more looking forward
45:38
to that Bester Martinez fight. I'm more nervous.
45:44
For the Martinez. Just because I already know
45:46
how the Canelo Crawford fight is going to go.
45:48
Unless Crawford knocks out Canelo. Which would
45:50
be crazy. I think I'm going to die laughing if
45:53
Crawford tries to do the black shirt trick and
45:56
then gets knocked out. I think I might die laughing.
46:02
I'm really eager to see what they look like at
46:04
the weigh -in. Yeah, I really want to see this
46:06
weigh -in. Because I know Canelo is going to
46:08
be in shape. If it turns out Crawford's been
46:12
in, like, that Jake Paul fat suit all along.
46:16
I mean, look. Like, it's comedy. I love it. I'm
46:19
just telling you, one thing I noticed from Canelo,
46:21
he is taking this fight 100 % seriously. Oh,
46:25
yeah. Well, because this is basically his entire
46:27
legacy. He's like, fuck, dude. He loses to Crawford
46:31
after fighting, like, fucking Berlanga and Munguia.
46:34
Like, come on. Yeah, that legacy is going to
46:38
get wiped. It's like... His whole career has
46:40
been built towards Crawford. This is his Mayweather
46:45
moment. This is his Mayweather -Canelo moment,
46:47
basically. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. If Canelo loses
46:53
to Crawford, that diminishes Canelo's legacy.
46:58
I hate Crawford enough to say Canelo was never
47:03
good. I've already prepared the coat. i always
47:09
knew he was a bum the cope is in like i do i
47:12
always knew he was on steroids and the bum and
47:15
his coach sucks and you know he hurt his knee
47:18
like six years ago and uh you know berlanga really
47:22
took it out of him so it was like loosening the
47:24
pickle jar you know oh the pickle jar theory
47:28
yeah exactly I have all the excuses, dude. Like
47:36
Crawford was on. BOMAC was putting steroids and
47:39
like human growth hormone into those like 6 ,000
47:41
calorie breakfasts. I think my only role is going
47:47
to be your hater. That's just hate, dude. Oh,
47:50
yeah. That's pure hating, dude. That's worse
47:53
than like dokes, bro. Yeah. Do you think normal
47:56
people who don't hate have excuses lined up at
47:59
the ass? No, I mean, you're not wrong. I was
48:03
going to say, you're not wrong. I was going to
48:04
say, you think a normal, well -adjusted person
48:08
has excuses? Like, come on. Like, come on. This
48:13
is obviously the work of a hater. I'm just saying,
48:16
dude, you got to see greatness. If it happens,
48:19
you got to see that that man is great. It is
48:23
going to make him a proper win. It is going to
48:25
make him probably one of the greatest fighters
48:26
of all time. In my opinion. I gotta make, like,
48:30
six calls. I gotta make, like, eight Twitter
48:32
burners to be like, Turkey, please. Turkey, please,
48:36
like, bring me, like, bring me Benavidez to kill
48:40
this man. If that happens, it's gonna be crazy.
48:46
That's not gonna happen, though. It's not happening.
48:49
Bring me Benavidez Virgil or Boots to strike
48:52
this man down. That's not happening. No, I know.
48:56
He's going to retire. He's going to be like,
48:58
I'm the greatest. He's going to retire. He's
49:01
going to do a Kevin Durant and just argue with
49:03
people on Twitter forever. I mean, we'll at least
49:07
know his greatness if he wins. No wife, no kids.
49:12
He's just going to argue with people on Twitter
49:14
until the end of his days. Well, no. Terrence
49:18
Crawford has seven kids. Two baby moms with seven
49:21
kids. Okay, so he'll be back at age 40 to lose.
49:25
Yeah. That's not that far away. Yeah. Fuck, dude.
49:29
He's almost 40. He'll be back to get knocked
49:34
out by Jake Paul then in like eight years. So,
49:38
you know what? I can wait. That's true. I can
49:41
wait. Crazy. I can wait. That's some serious
49:44
hating. That is serious hater. Always. Always.
49:48
You hate him that much? Biding my time until
49:52
Jake Paul takes him out in 10 years. In 30 years
49:57
when they talk about the history books and we
49:59
talk about Crawford. I'm going to be like, fuck
50:01
no, you lost to Jake Paul. No, you're going to
50:04
be a Crawford lover in the future. Oh, I watched
50:06
him on his way up. I was there the whole way.
50:09
I was there when he fought Madrimov. I supported
50:11
him when he fought Canelo. He won. You're going
50:14
to be saying all that bullshit. No, I'm going
50:15
to be the one. I'll be like, fuck, though. He
50:17
lost to Jake Paul. Jake Paul is the greatest
50:19
of all time. Only boxer to beat world champions
50:23
from like six different decades. In multiple
50:26
sports. That is so hateful. Well, you're not
50:28
going to be able to say that because it's an
50:29
exhibition, so. But Jake Paul, I'm going to say
50:33
Jake Paul beat champions in multiple sports in
50:38
like six different decades. Well. Robert's still
50:44
going to beat Canelo. If he beats Canelo, you're
50:46
going to have to bite your words. Bite your tongue.
50:49
No. I'm going to wait. You're fine. You're going
50:53
to be fine. It's not going to happen. I'm just
50:55
going to wait. I'm going to wait. History. I'm
50:59
going to be the historian revising history, being
51:03
like, this guy was terrible. This era was the
51:06
weakest of all time, like the 80s. I'll tell
51:09
you this. I'll tell you this. Let me ask you
51:11
this. Let me give you a scenario. What if...
51:13
Canelo robs Crawford on the cards. What are you
51:15
going to say? Are you still going to be happy?
51:18
If Canelo robs Crawford on the cards, I'm going
51:21
to be happy. So you'll be happy with the robbery?
51:24
Yeah, because I'm just going to... You're not
51:27
much of a hater. Listen, man. I've excused shit
51:31
with Lawrence or Coley. This was not the first
51:33
time. That's fucking nuts, dude. Everybody calling
51:39
in, tell them how nuts he is. 8 -3 -3. Excuse
51:42
me, Lawrence Okoli. Lux Potts. Lawrence Okoli?
51:46
Actually, that's a little mean. That's a little
51:48
mean, Crawford, comparing him to Lawrence Okoli.
51:51
That's fucking nuts. That's like the lowest common
51:54
denominator, dude. That is horrible. Yeah, I'm
51:57
sorry. I'm sorry, Crawford. Lawrence Okoli, that's
52:00
too much. To me, that's like a slur, bro. You
52:03
just said it like a slur. That's pretty bad,
52:05
dude. That's too much. That's why I'm bad. That's
52:09
like, you're like a hater, but that's just like
52:11
borderline, like, that's like being racist, bro.
52:15
I'm not even lying. That's like being racist.
52:18
Actually, you guys see the clip of Clarissa Shields
52:20
admitting that Canelo's going to win? No, I haven't.
52:24
No, yeah, I haven't. All right, let me send it.
52:27
I just saw it before the podcast started. Well,
52:32
where's the Senate and I definitely have to believe
52:34
it Yeah, the Freudian slip late buzz that I Mean
52:41
I think we all know what's gonna happen. We all
52:43
know Canelo's gonna win cuz Well, we're not gonna
52:46
knock him out Listen, man, if he does I'll be
52:49
surprised Listen, man, I'm going to pray on my
52:51
hands and knees that Canelo gets a knockout because
52:54
literally at this point with Canelo's career,
52:57
he does need God himself in his corner to help
52:59
him knock the guy out, apparently. Not this guy.
53:03
I mean, he's too... If he can't knock out a guy
53:06
that's three -way classes low... Listen, man,
53:08
God is on the side of the... God is on the side
53:11
of the righteous, which is to say not Terrence
53:13
Crawford. That doesn't mean Canelo's righteous
53:18
either, necessarily. Yeah, no, I'm not trying
53:22
to hate on Canelo. I think Canelo can beat him.
53:25
All he can beat him with is his power, that's
53:28
it. If Crawford doesn't feel his power at all,
53:31
then Canelo's in for a long night. As long as
53:37
Crawford comes in shape, though. If not, then
53:39
he's fucked. Yeah, if we get fatty Crawford,
53:41
I'm gonna die laughing. He could be in shape,
53:44
he's just a little flabby. You know, like he's
53:46
in cardiovascular shape. Magic proper is overweight,
53:51
bro. That'd be fucking crazy. You go up 20 pounds,
53:57
you have to miss more fucking weight. Oh, we're
54:00
talking about the Zerto strategy now. At that
54:04
point, yeah. Yeah, you're right. You gotta give
54:12
some insight, dude. I know. I've been enjoying
54:15
it. This one is tough because Canelo does have
54:23
a lot more miles on the odometer. Oh, yeah. And
54:30
my thinking is that it's going to be Terrence
54:35
Crawford pot -shotting. He's just going to be
54:37
staying out of range because why would you stand
54:40
in front of the naturally bigger guy? It doesn't
54:44
make any sense. The only thing, and this is a
54:52
question mark, this is a good one that Nathan
54:54
actually brought up when we were talking about
54:56
it on Ultimate Casuals. It was Canelo has the
55:04
tendency to come forward, and Terrence Crawford
55:07
has a tendency to counterpunch. Now, if he decides
55:11
to stay in the pocket and try to counterpunch
55:15
there, Then it comes to the question of does,
55:18
you know, is Canelo's power too much? And then
55:22
he gets on his bike. Or does he decide to go
55:26
for it anyway? I don't know. But I'm a lot more
55:32
eager to see it now with the possibility of Crawford
55:35
counterpunching. Like, I think Shakur versus
55:38
William Zepeda. Oh, Jesus. Shakur? Okay. I mean
55:44
that, like. Sort of positioning and counter -punching.
55:49
No, I get you. Staying up close. Up close and
55:53
personal. Staying in the water while not getting
55:55
wet? Yes, exactly. I get you. I don't think it's
56:02
going to be like that. I think it's going to
56:03
be exactly like how Terrence Crawford fought
56:06
Israel Matrimonial. Just box around? Yeah, box
56:12
around. The thing is that I just think Canelo's
56:17
a little smarter than Madrimov is. So some of
56:20
the shit that Madrimov was setting up and hitting
56:23
Crawford with is going to be... It's not just
56:26
going to be forward aggression. It's going to
56:27
be a counterpunch coming at Crawford with better
56:31
timing. That's not even hate. Canelo being better
56:35
than Madrimov should not be hate. No, that's
56:38
not hate at all. I just think it's a different
56:40
kind of heat that Crawford's going to face because
56:43
it's not like Canelo's dumb. He sets up his shots
56:47
good. It's just they're going to be single shots.
56:49
One thing about Canelo, and I want to add on
56:52
to this before I forget, he has really good feints.
56:55
Yeah, like he sets up traps very nicely. Yeah.
57:01
Honestly, I can see Crawford getting knocked
57:04
down. I kind of want to predict that. I think
57:06
I am going to predict that actually Crawford
57:08
is going to get knocked down at least once. Terrence
57:14
Crawford has insane fight IQ and Bomek is an
57:19
excellent trainer or an excellent coach. It's
57:23
definitely just an IQ battle. And Canelo's not...
57:28
He's not... ring IQ dumb yeah no I mean you know
57:35
you're right he's not dumb same time though Crawford's
57:38
not dumb either he's very fucking smart I would
57:41
give the edge of ring IQ to Bud Bud yes I would
57:50
say he has a slightly better ring IQ than Canelo
57:53
does oh yeah thank you very much It's hard to
58:00
pick. Genuinely, it's up to the weigh -in. They're
58:05
close enough. He's flabby as fuck. If he's flabby
58:09
as fuck, he just can't get on his bike. It's
58:11
not happening. You can't even get on the bike,
58:16
bro. The bike is falling apart at the wheels,
58:20
bro. You're going to have to air up the tires
58:21
quite a few times. If Crowder really seriously
58:28
comes in fucking overweight, there's a serious
58:29
problem that can with being overweight. That's
58:33
not even a joke. Fucking BOMAC, bro. That already
58:39
broke my heart. I always think of him. Anytime
58:44
I hear his name, I hear BOMAC. I think of that
58:46
one shot of him in the locker room with a family
58:51
-sized bag of Cheetos. That's probably pretty
58:55
fucking crazy, bro. Yeah, and he's just, like,
58:58
wolfing them down. Like, damn, dude. Uncle Bomek,
59:04
we need to talk. Yep. Oh, shit, man. What are
59:14
you guys' final predictions? Canelo, stoppage,
59:19
ninth round. Ninth round. It's gotta be late.
59:24
It's going to be late. Instead of fish fry. I
59:28
mean, honestly, I disagree. I think, honestly,
59:33
who knows who's going to win, I think. But it's
59:38
going to be via robbery. If it makes it to the
59:40
distance, Crawford's going to beat him to the
59:43
eyes of the public. But we all know how boxing
59:47
works. It ain't no secret that they like to fucking
59:51
screw people over. Yeah. You know what I mean?
59:57
Yeah, I was saving my role selection until...
1:00:00
Talk to Shanada already about this. She's not
1:00:04
too excited about this fight. Just thinking it's
1:00:07
going to be Canelo a little too slow to keep
1:00:10
up. And Crawford just pot -shotting on his bike.
1:00:16
Isaac is riding with Canelo. I don't remember
1:00:22
Nathan picking, but he was the one who told me
1:00:27
about the in -the -pocket verse. Out of the pocket.
1:00:33
I think I should cut in the Jeopardy music here,
1:00:36
because I have no fucking idea who to pick. I
1:00:39
just keep thinking that it's going to be Canelo
1:00:42
is going to wear down Crawford, and it's going
1:00:47
to be enough to wear its... He's not going to
1:00:53
be able to bike and he's going to get caught.
1:00:56
And he's moving up 20 pounds. He could even give
1:01:02
him, say, 14. But I don't know, man. I'm thinking
1:01:08
Canelo's going to take it. I would not be shocked
1:01:13
with a Crawford win. If anybody's going to be
1:01:15
able to outfox Canelo, it's Terrence fucking
1:01:19
Crawford. I'm not even saying we are, like, I'm
1:01:26
a hater, but I wouldn't be surprised. I'm just
1:01:29
a hater, straight up. I wouldn't be surprised.
1:01:33
This dude loves to hate. It's not impossible.
1:01:35
I just hate Crawford that much. Because, yeah,
1:01:40
Terrence Crawford is, like, right now one of
1:01:44
the highest ring IQs in the sport, but that isn't
1:01:48
to say that. Canelo doesn't have a very good
1:01:51
ring IQ of his own. And again, it's just a size
1:01:55
disparity. A good big guy always beats a good
1:01:59
little guy. So when the disparity is that small
1:02:01
in their IQs, does it matter? Yeah, but like
1:02:07
I said, if anyone can do it, Crawford with BOMAC
1:02:10
in his corner. Fair enough. Again, I want to
1:02:15
see the win. I need to see if Crawford shows
1:02:17
up fat as shit. I would lose a lot of faith in
1:02:25
Crawford. I would die laughing. I think I'd keep
1:02:28
laughing until the next day. Oh, man. Saul, what
1:02:34
are you going to do? What would happen if Terrence
1:02:37
Crawford shows up fat as fuck? I mean, I already
1:02:41
expect him to win, but I mean... It's not really
1:02:45
going to change my opinion much. I'm just like,
1:02:47
damn, he's bad as fuck. Alright. That's really
1:02:50
it. I'm like, damn. That's a big old boy. That's
1:02:56
a big fella right there. You know, I mean, that's
1:02:59
all you can really do is just be like, damn.
1:03:02
I'm basically sad because I've been anticipating
1:03:03
it for a while, but it's like, I kind of, I mean,
1:03:07
seeing that picture, I'm already mentally prepared
1:03:08
for that to happen anyways. Yeah. Yeah. I'm hopeful
1:03:14
it was Waterweight. I think it's Waterweight,
1:03:19
too. It doesn't look like he's flabby, like he's
1:03:21
fat, but he doesn't look cut. One thing I will
1:03:27
say, because I know that Josh said that he doesn't
1:03:30
think the fight's going to be boring. I think
1:03:32
there's a very big possibility that fight is
1:03:34
going to be boring just because of... Crawford
1:03:36
doesn't have that. You know what? I will say
1:03:40
that the Crawford hate is all personal. As a
1:03:44
boxer, he's rather fun to watch. He's not the
1:03:50
one that's going to stink it out. I mean, Kittle's
1:03:53
never been able to run in his career. That's
1:03:56
what I mean. It's not going to be Crawford who
1:03:58
stinks it out, really. Again, he's nothing but
1:04:04
stoppages until Madrimov, since he was at 140,
1:04:09
basically. He went 2016 to 2024 with all stoppages.
1:04:18
How many fights per year? Honestly, it was a
1:04:22
decent clip. He went 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,
1:04:27
9, 10, 11. He had 11 knockouts in a row. In 8
1:04:32
years? Yeah. And the decisions were not boring
1:04:38
either. Yeah, I mean, hey. The Postol fight was
1:04:43
not competitive. He went down twice. Crawford
1:04:48
beat the fuck out of him, and Crawford had a
1:04:51
good fight with Madrimov. And Hank beat the shit
1:04:55
out of Hank Lundy. You know what? I'll say what
1:04:58
you will about a lot of the quality of the opponent,
1:05:02
but at least he's not like Shakur, where he's
1:05:05
like, guess what? You're so grossly inferior
1:05:09
to me, but I'm never going to stop you. In a
1:05:11
million years. I don't want to stop you. I'm
1:05:14
good. It's not going to happen. I'm not even
1:05:16
going to try to stop you. Crawford goes for it.
1:05:21
He has enough pride to go for it. At least he
1:05:26
gave him his flowers. I'm giving him his flowers.
1:05:28
Again, as a boxer, I'll give him his flowers
1:05:30
all day. As a person and as a influencer of the
1:05:36
sport. representative of the sport? Fuck no.
1:05:42
This guy's a cancer on the sport. So, like, I
1:05:46
think I can be fair in that way, where, like,
1:05:48
as an ambassador of the sport, like, hell no.
1:05:53
So what are you going to do with Cropper Wins?
1:05:56
I'm going to, again, I'm going to wait 10 years,
1:05:58
and then we'll have this conversation when Jake
1:06:00
Paul beats him. Quality hate only. We'll revisit
1:06:08
this. They'll be like, what about when he beat
1:06:10
Canelo? And I'm like, oh yeah, what about when
1:06:12
Jake Paul beat Prime Crawford? Prime Crawford's
1:06:15
crazy. Prime Crawford's not in his prime right
1:06:18
now, but you know what? He is in his prime. Jake
1:06:20
Paul was out of his prime when he beat a prime
1:06:23
Terrence Crawford. The level of hate. Yeah, that's
1:06:31
what I mean. That's what I'm going to say. I'm
1:06:34
just going to play the long game. You know, I'm
1:06:36
still going to be around in 10 years, but the
1:06:38
new boxing fans in 10 years will not have watched
1:06:40
these fights because boxing fans don't watch
1:06:43
fights. Come on. Yeah. They look a box wreck.
1:06:47
I'm going to be able to argue. Are you supposed
1:06:48
to follow the sport? That's how I'm going to
1:06:51
be saying this. As someone who did actually watch
1:06:54
Crawford, I'm going to get to discredit him all
1:06:56
day. Okay. I'm going to say, watch the fights.
1:07:01
Watch the fights. And no one's ever going to
1:07:02
watch them. They're never going to know I'm bullshitting.
1:07:10
You just got to play the long game. I was going
1:07:16
to say, no one's going to watch this shit in
1:07:17
10 years. I'm going to get to say what I want.
1:07:21
No one's going to watch this fucking show in
1:07:23
10 years if nobody wants to watch the sport.
1:07:26
No, we're going to have our... I'm going to make
1:07:28
my kids watch this fucking show. We're going
1:07:32
to have at least two viewers. All right, there
1:07:34
you go. And they're going to be told Terrence
1:07:37
Crawford. Well, Terrence Crawford was a fraud
1:07:39
who lost to Jake Ball. I guess I got to argue
1:07:43
with him, too. There you go. Generational beef
1:07:47
over Terrence Crawford is crazy. I have to. You're
1:07:51
already setting him up. I already said that.
1:07:53
Listen, man, that's how much I hate this guy.
1:07:56
I got to try to counterbalance. Yeah. Oh, my
1:08:00
God. You know, I think, yeah, I'm not even that
1:08:03
bad. I don't have that much of a stake in it.
1:08:05
Imagine, like, Crawford losing. Like, how bad
1:08:08
some of the Crawford riders on the Discord are
1:08:11
going to crash out. Oh, yeah, that'd be bad.
1:08:14
That'd be bad. They're going to die. Oh! I think
1:08:18
that's all we can do. What the hell was that?
1:08:21
Goddamn. That was a yawn and a half, buddy. Yeah,
1:08:26
that was not a yawn. That was like a combustion.
1:08:28
I was like, are we yawning? Yeah, I think we're.
1:08:33
All right. So, yeah, is that it for Canelo Crawford?
1:08:39
Yes, sir. I don't have anything else. All right.
1:08:44
Let me put some housekeeping notes in here. There
1:08:50
goes that. So, a few things. Social media handle,
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1:09:27
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1:09:30
But if you just want to go in, you want to raw
1:09:33
dog it, have fun. We'll be there on fight night
1:09:38
for sure. Everybody's going to be there chatting,
1:09:41
watching. It'll be fun. Chat's always fun. Get
1:09:46
ready for the death of boxing. This is the last
1:09:48
boxing fight that's... It's going to be this
1:09:50
big for a while. Oh, yeah. Hey, what do you mean?
1:09:53
We got Joseph Parker and Fabio Wardley to talk
1:09:57
about? Those are Brits, man. Those are Brits.
1:10:01
Hey, what do you mean? One is a meth dealer from
1:10:04
New Zealand. Come on. One is a Maori meth dealer.
1:10:10
I mean, hey. Alleged. They call him the Kiwi
1:10:15
Walter White. Exactly. We got shit to talk about.
1:10:20
It is the death of boxing, though. You guys,
1:10:22
really, what's the biggest pay -per -view fight
1:10:24
besides AJ Fury? Benavidez Yard? That's not pay
1:10:30
-per -view. Yeah, I completely misheard you.
1:10:33
Hey, man. Hey, man. Jake Paul, not Jake Paul.
1:10:36
Mayweather and Mike Tyson just got signed, so
1:10:38
this boxing is back. Yeah, man. Boxing is back
1:10:42
until we see the death of fucking Tyson. Live
1:10:46
TV. Jake Paul. There'll be another Jake Paul
1:10:50
fight and everyone will care about boxing again
1:10:52
because we all love Jake Paul on this show. Oh,
1:10:55
we love him. We love him. He's the savior of
1:10:57
women's boxing. JP Mafia. That's true. JP Mafia.
1:11:07
So, I was going to ask parting words, but did
1:11:11
we just go through them? That's about it. ProBuck's
1:11:16
good. Maybe let's go Canelo one last time. Let's
1:11:21
go Crawford. I love Canelo, but I grew up watching
1:11:27
him, but after watching him fight for long in
1:11:28
school, I will never forgive him. He broke my
1:11:31
heart. So I want Crawford to win. I'm rooting
1:11:33
against my own people, man. It sucks, but I have
1:11:38
to. I have to. All right. Well then, we will
1:11:44
see you on the other side of Canelo Crawford.