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Overcoming Ankle Sprains, Strava vs. Garmin, Midstate Massive Ultra - Ep.6 · Run Mountain Peaks

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All right, welcome back to another episode of Run Mountain
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Peaks. I want to start off the podcast
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to say thank you one to everyone who has been listening and
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commenting and saying, you know, being very supportive and then
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to any of the new listeners supporters.
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I basically hacked into my old Instagram and kind of posted the
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podcast, made Instagram for the podcast and got some followers,
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a ton of comments and support. So I just want to say thank you
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to everybody. And if you're a new listener and
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tuning in, hopefully, you know, you get something from this
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podcast. Just going to talk about running
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the White Mountains races, ultras, training theory, a bunch
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of different stuff. So if any of that interests you,
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stay tuned. But yeah, thanks for everybody.
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The nice comments. Part of me was kind of like, you
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know, it was kind of like, oh, nice, you know, Congrats, good
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for you. This is awesome.
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And I'm thinking like, wow, guys, I've really I'm really
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just rambling in the back of my truck bed after runs here.
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But no, I really do appreciate all the comments and it was cool
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to just have a lot of support. So I really appreciate that.
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Today we're going to be talking about a handful of things.
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So the first, the mid state massive ultra marathon that was
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run last weekend, it goes from kind of the North End of
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Massachusetts to the South end. We had a couple locals slash
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friends come away with the W at that race.
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So we'll talk about that. And that was actually the race
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that kind of that was the first ultra that I have signed up that
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I signed up for. I was signed up for it twice.
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I never ran it, but it kind of got me into ultra running and
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also I met people through that race.
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So I'll kind of tell that story. So that race is a cool race.
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So we'll talk about that. We're going to talk about rolled
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ankles. This is like, I feel like
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October is like ankle roll season.
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You know, there's just lots of leaves, falling leaves in the
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trail. And I've dealt with a couple bad
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ankle rolls over the last year. So just wanted to talk about
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kind of how I work through those.
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And so you kind of can maintain your fitness.
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I feel like I've done a decent job of maintaining fitness.
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But yeah, ankle roll stink. If you trail run enough, you're
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going to roll your ankle. So something you just kind of
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kind of have to deal with and, and work through.
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So I'll kind of give some tips and just how I work through the
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ankle rolls. I'm going to talk about Strava
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versus Garmin. I heard a little bit about this.
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Garmin's threatening to not upload runs to Strava and it's a
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whole big thing. And then I saw something about
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Garmin versus Suunto, so I'll give my thoughts on that.
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I mean, I have some overall thoughts on Strava.
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And then I use a Garmin and I used to have a Suto, so I'll
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kind of give thoughts there. Next up, Courtney Dewalter runs
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her first marathon, her marathon debut.
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So we'll talk about that. I have as a note under that
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compound interest. Honestly, I kind of forget how I
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linked those two when I was thinking about it, but I'll talk
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about contract compound interest in terms of running next, the
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bigs backyard ultra. So this is I'm pretty sure it's
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the World Championships for backyard ultra this year.
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So we'll talk about that. Bubba's was just a couple a
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couple weeks ago, which is also a last man ultra, last man
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standing ultra marathon. So I'll just talk about that
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briefly. And then I'm going to do a
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little deer season update. And then the other bullets I
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have is van life and then biking with a group slash drafting.
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So those are the topics today and that's what we're going to
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go through. And I will say this to start off
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when I said I hacked into my old Instagram to kind of post the
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the run mountain peaks Instagram, it was not hacking.
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I literally I think I've been off Instagram for almost 2
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years. I typed in my username like or
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no my phone number, and I just typed in a password I used for
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everything. And before I feel like I even
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entered the last character in my password, I was in, it was back,
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it was activated and I'm like, wow, Instagram really, really
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wants to suck me in right now. And so yeah, post it took me
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like 10 minutes to figure out how to post a story, partly
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because I didn't have enough storage in my phone.
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So it was being weird. But yeah, Instagram kind of a
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kind of a crazy place. And after I, after I did the,
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the run mountain peak stuff, I'm like, you know what, it's been a
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while. Let's just do a good doom
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scroll. Let's just see if the algorithm
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still knows me. And it does.
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So I doom scrolled for a little bit.
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And I mean, I had, I've heard about AI, obviously I've heard
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about AI. I think it's crazy.
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I don't know what to think. I don't really understand that.
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I kind of understand, I don't understand it, but I did not
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realize the AI generated stuff. And so there were a couple
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videos that got me. I was, I mean, I can't even go
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through it, but like people like doctors that I are like fitness
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guys that I've heard about or I've heard things on like
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YouTube critiquing other people that I've heard of.
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I listened to this thing. I'm like, oh, wow, this is.
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And then a minute and I'm like, wait, he kind of sounds a little
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weird. I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is AI
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generated. There were some clips of like a
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deer breaks in through a window, a guy on the couch freaks out
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and then a bear breaks through the window and then they all
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start dancing. And like literally it takes me a
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second to see them all dancing together to be like, this is
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fake. And one of the one of the
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accounts was like an AI, like it had AI in the name.
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So then I just start looking at all the AI stuff and it was
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blowing me away. So Instagram is a crazy place
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and the AI stuff, I feel like you got to kind of flag.
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I am AI. No, I'm just kidding.
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I feel like there needs to be like flagging of like what is AI
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versus what is an AI just so you don't get caught off guard
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because I was caught off guard. But anyway, OK, that was the
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Instagram run mountain peaks Instagram.
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I'm just going to post the episodes there.
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OK, so first topic, the mid state massive.
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So like I said, this is an ultra marathon.
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It goes through the state of Massachusetts.
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So there's 100 mile, a 50 mile and A50 Ki believe.
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And the 100 mile basically starts in New Hampshire and then
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you traverse the mid state trail to like the corner of like the
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tri-state corner of like Rhode Island, Connecticut and
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Massachusetts. So then you go to the southern
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end of the of the border of Massachusetts and it's about 100
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miles. So that is the race.
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And like I said, we had a couple.
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So the winner of the 100 mile, Ryan Hunter, AKA Huss, he is
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somebody who I met through a friend, one of my good friends,
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Kevin. I met Ryan through him and so
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ran with him a handful of times. Super strong runner.
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He's really, he's done a lot of like uphill stuff and I think, I
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mean just a lot of a lot of ultras and he's been doing this
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for a long time. I think this was his first 100
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mile race and he goes and runs it in 19 hours, 29 minutes, the
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fourth fastest time ever and and wins that race.
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And when I saw that, I was like, Oh my God, Hus goes crazy.
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That is a super strong time. I don't know who has like the
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course record. I don't know if it's Koran
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Kowski, but I know Justin Kowski, who's just been on a
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roll for the last five years, I think ran like 19 1/2 or a
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little over his time. So either way, Hus runs a super
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strong time. So Congrats to him.
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Wins 100 mile and hopefully I see him in the somewhat near
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future and I can get a kind of a full recap.
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So Congrats to him. And then in the 50 mile, Ali
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Laville, who is I think toe and toe her slash Clark plumber are
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toe and toe with John Borrie for the top commenters of like the
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YouTube in the podcast, she wins the 50 mile and I think it was
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949. So the 50 mile and the 100 mile
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we got winners local New Hampshire runners really strong
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times and Congrats to them. I don't really know.
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I think it was good, good conditions last weekend.
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That show I think is I think there's about in 100 mile,
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there's about 10,000 feet of gain.
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I don't know what it is for the 50, but it's very kind of up and
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down. And I think there's a lot of
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kind of it's pretty technical and with the with the leaves and
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everything, it's a tough course. So they were in smoking time, so
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good for them. And yeah, the mid state massive.
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So like I said, this was the first ultra that I was
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officially signed up for. I think I talked about it at one
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point, but I saw kind of the the last man standing races and I
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thought that was like a cool like, Oh, I want to try to run
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100 miles. But I remember thinking like,
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oh, that would stink if you get to like 80 or 90 and then you
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just time out on a lap and you don't you're not able to get
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100. So I was like, all right, I want
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to try to run the mid state massive.
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It's 100 mile race and you don't like there's a time limit, but
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you don't time out if you have like a bad hour.
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So it was the first ultra that I signed up for.
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I think I had like a hamstring. I think I had a hamstring kind
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of like the summer before I did it and I wasn't really like I
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was. I was, I was doing a lot of
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hiking and some trail running up here, but I didn't want to
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really go down to the mid state and run kind of the flat stuff.
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I just wasn't running enough. I was kind of injured.
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So I ended up bailing that race and never did it.
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The next year I signed up again, but I ended up doing the Jigger
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Johnson 50 Miller instead that year.
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And then I think the year after I signed or I was going to pace
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up one of my friends at it and then they ended up dropping.
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So I never made it. So I've never made it to the
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course, to the race, but it's something that I've kind of
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followed a lot and something with the ultra running.
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A lot of times people ask like, oh, how do you meet all these
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like people? Like where do you meet these
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people? Just running like crazy, crazy
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miles. And honestly, the first ultra
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runners that I met was through the mid state massive.
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I I didn't, I didn't know anything about really ultra
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running. I wanted to run 100 miles.
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And I remember I had like a Strava and I think like I was,
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it was just like my, my brother or something that I fall like I
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don't even know. I barely I didn't use it a ton,
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whatever. But this guy Josh Adsit reached
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out and was like he was signed up for the race too.
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We were both from Merrimack and he reached out to me, I think on
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Strava or something like that, or he followed me or something.
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And I was like, oh wow, this is kind of, you know, I think there
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was three of us from Merrimack that year.
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So him and another guy, Josh, both Josh's.
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And it it turned out, I forget how I knew this, but he lived
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like a half a mile from me. So I didn't know.
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I didn't know. I don't know.
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I don't think there you could even message on Strava.
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But I ended up really just walking down the road knocking
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on his door. And I eventually, I think I, I
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tried like once or twice and I eventually just like was like,
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Hey, I'm, I'm Andrew. I'm both signed up for this.
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And we chatted for a while and he was somebody had been doing
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ultras for a little bit and like gave me some good advice, gave
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me this awesome book to read about ultra running.
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He had a mentor who wrote a book.
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So he he gave me a book and it, it was definitely kind of like
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inspiring. It was nice to for someone else
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to be like, yeah, like, you know, this is awesome.
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Let's do this race. And the the goal was to do it.
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I didn't end up doing it. I think he went that year, but I
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think he had issues and he didn't finish.
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But anyway, so that's why I met him.
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So it's kind of through the ultra sign up races Strava.
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And then the next spring he was hosting an event at his on at
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his property. He had like a little tiny farm
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and woods in the back and he was hosting this event for any local
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person to come by. It was like not a backyard
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ultra, but it was like he had maybe like a 2/3 of a mile loop
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through the woods with like another loop that you could go
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through like kind of like a conservation area.
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You could marry that loop and do a little longer loop.
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And he was like anyone who wants to run for 24 hours or like 2
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days or whatever, come on by. We're gonna have like tents, you
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know, food, snacks, a bunch of people, music.
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And I pretty much just went to that.
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I didn't know anybody and I showed up and I met a handful of
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people, like all kind of ultra runners, trail runners, the
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people who do this stuff and a couple of people that I've I've
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known for a while now and friends with, run with.
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And I think like meeting all of those people.
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I remember talking to a few of them and just hearing stories of
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like they've done 100 milers, they've done ultras.
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And I was just so like fascinated, like holy smokes.
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And then you just get to see these people who can run 100
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hundreds of mile doing through hikes, all these crazy stories.
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I remember I just like ran. I think I ended up running 30
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miles or something that day, just listening to like stories
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from these people. And I think when you start kind
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of running with those people and meeting those people, like I
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think you're all drawn to like, you know, these ultras, these
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events, there's not like a ton of them.
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So, you know, as you come together, all the people kind of
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from the woodworker doing this kind of come together for these
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events and they meet people and then you get out for runs with
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people and then you hear stories.
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And like after you do that for a while, like I started, did a
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couple volunteering in a couple races, did a couple races, did
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some runs, you know, obviously was on Strava more at that
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point. So it's kind of meeting people
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through that and you just kind of like, yes, start running with
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these people. And after a while you kind of
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start to like normalize like running for a 24 hours or
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whatever, 100 miles, 50 miles, 50K, whatever, like 20 mile
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training runs like nothing through hikes, all these things.
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And then like when you kind of talk to people who are not in
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the sport and you're like, oh, I had a 20 mile run.
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I'm, I'm training for the, I think I signed up for this race.
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I'm going to do 100 miles or whatever people like, what are
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you, what are you talking about? I'm like, Oh yeah, it is kind of
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a crazy hobby, but it's cool that like more people are
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getting into it. I feel like ultras are getting
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very popular, trail run is getting popular, hiking, all
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this stuff, which is awesome. Like there's just more events
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and more people doing it and, and more kind of information out
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there for you to kind of like train and and figure stuff out
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like gear. And so it's cool and like
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meeting those people and a lot of these people that I met
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really helped me like with the learning curve of like how to
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train and like what gear to use and, and just like opening your
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eyes, like what is actually possible.
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And so yeah, I met a handful of guys there.
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And then from there, one of them I run with a good amount still
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and then a few other people run into each other once in a while
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and it's always good to catch up.
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And from there just spirals out. You just meet more and more
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people like that and, and eventually you're just running
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all the time and that's your whole life.
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So you got to be careful with those running.
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But it is kind of like a cool community and there's more and
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more opportunities and events. Like I always tell people, go to
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events, volunteer, just like go check it out.
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Just a ton of cool people. So that was a mid state massive
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wrap up. Next we're going to talk about
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rolled ankles. So yeah, I think I alluded to it
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a little bit. I had, I've had two bad rolled
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ankles in the past year. So I'm going to talk about
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rolled ankles. I feel like some people are
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rolling their ankles right now. I had one actually two weeks
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ago, a little a baby one. And yeah, if you trail on for
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long enough, you're going to roll an ankle, especially in the
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White Mountains, like the trails are super technical.
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There's lots of little rocks and, and stuff and you're going
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to roll your ankle. But I think there's like a good
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news and a bad news for rolled ankles.
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I think the good news is you can mostly run through it, train,
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you can definitely train through it.
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You can kind of run through it, you know, unless it's really bad
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and we'll talk about different, the severity of ankle rolls, but
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you can train through it. That's good.
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But the bad news is, you know, for most people, it takes like
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months for it to feel better. So it's going to be kind of like
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a nagging thing that you really have to be careful of and not
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overdo or re roll it. So First off, like the grades of
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ankle rolls, I'm not a doctor. Go if you have an ankle roll, go
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to a doctor. But I think it's a grade one,
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grade two, grade 3 and I have a grade 0A Grade 0 is like when
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you roll your ankle, it hurts, but you can kind of keep running
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and after like a couple minutes, it doesn't really hurt.
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And at the end you run, it doesn't really hurt.
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It's going to be maybe a little sore, but the next day you're
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like good, that's like a little baby ankle roll.
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I'm going to call that a grade 0.
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So you have some of those and it kind of scares you and then
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you're like, oh, OK, no, I think I'm good.
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But don't do that again. And there's no like swelling or
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bruising or anything like that. Great.
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And you pretty much if that happens, I don't change my
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training at all. It usually doesn't bother me.
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Grade 1 is like, I think like you stretch the ligaments in the
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tendons. It hurts, but you can run it off
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in a couple minutes. And then after you run, you're
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kind of sore. It might be like a tiny bit
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bruise, but or like a little bit bruised, a little bit swollen
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and it's sore, It's sore the next day, but like after a week
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it pretty much goes away and it's like a non issue.
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Those are like great ones and obviously those are scarier
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because they hurt a little bit more on the trail and you kind
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of have some repercussions after, but it's something that
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you don't really need to adjust your training to.
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I usually take like maybe I'll bike a couple times more that
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next week to give it a little bit of time and then if it's
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feeling better, like back to training as normal.
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So those happen and again, a little bit scarier but but not
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the end of the world. Grade 2 is like you partially
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tear your tendons. These ones hurt when it happens.
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It's hard to shake off and then there is bruising and swelling
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when you're done and the next days weeks, it's going to hurt.
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And these are like a little bit more serious.
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And that's kind of like I think I've had two good grade twos in
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the last year that I'll talk through.
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And if you push it too much, if you re roll it, these are the
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ones that it can take like a couple months plus to feel like
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100% back from. So those are grade 2.
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Those are those are not good. You want to do grade one of
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grade zeros if you can. If your ankles swollen at the
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end and really bruised, that is not good.
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And then a grade three I think is like a full tear.
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You it's like almost like a broken ankle.
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It's it could be worse than a broken ankle.
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You can't really walk after. Oh yeah, the grade twos you can
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kind of limp off eventually, but it does really, still really
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hurt to run grade threes. You can't even limp off or, or
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run. Those are really bad.
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So if you have a grade 3 like that's that's you got to go to
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the doctors you I don't know if surgery or whatever, but grade 3
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is the worst. I wish that upon nobody.
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Not my worst enemy because that's going to take a while.
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But if you're in that like grade 2, like I rolled it really bad,
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like I don't have to go to the doctor, but it's just going to
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hurt. Here is my advice.
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So I had one last, I think actually November and during the
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month of October, I ran the Kilkeny Ridge race in
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mid-september, took a couple weeks off and then got back to
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training. So I remember I wasn't doing a
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ton of like mountain stuff, trail stuff, because I was kind
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of building back from, from Kilkenny.
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And I remember thinking, I don't want to roll my ankle.
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You know, going crazy. So I'm going to stick to more
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like roads, rail trails. And I was doing a workout on a
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rail trail and the one kind of like pothole in the whole rail
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trail cut filled in with leaves that I didn't see.
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I cracked my ankle. Good on it.
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I think I was running probably like a 6 minute pace, which I
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think what I've noticed is how fast you're running determines
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like the grade. And that's obviously like a lot
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of people, like, duh. But the faster you're running,
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it's just a lot more force. So if you're doing like a
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workout or running hard, running hard downhill, that's when
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you're at the most danger for getting in that grade 2 or even
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the grade 3 ankle roll. So whenever you're on trail,
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especially in the fall and you're running hard, be very
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careful about ankle rolls, especially, Yeah, when you're
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running fast because if you're running, you know, just so you
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can easy pace, it's hard to get like a good, good a grade three,
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grade two, grade 3 ankle roll. But if you're running hard, that
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is that's when you can get in trouble.
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So like in the fall, like this fall, I've been doing hard
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uphills because it's harder to roll your ankle uphill and then
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easy downs because I'm still kind of recouping from my ankle
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roll. So that's just a word of the
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wise. You're running fast in the fall.
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Be careful. OK, so yeah, so I was running on
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the rail trail and that was a really bad anchor roll.
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And so like, what do I do to get back on track?
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So I think I've had ankle rolls before where I'm like, listen to
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a David Goggins, you know, pain. I don't feel pain.
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I'm trying to learn things out here.
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And I push through it like I'm not going to let this affect,
21:59
you know, I have these goals. I don't want to lose fitness.
22:01
I'm going to train through it. And you kind of can because when
22:06
you're running, you're not supposed to roll your ankles.
22:09
So like you use your ankle tendons and ankle muscles, but
22:14
like if you're not re rolling it, it's not like you're doing a
22:17
ton more damage. And then once you get warmed up,
22:20
it doesn't feel as bad. So you can kind of train through
22:22
it. And I've done that before, but
22:24
every time I do that, it gets worse before it gets better.
22:28
And so my philosophy is if you have a really bad anchor role,
22:32
grade one or grade 2, take a week off, no running or if
22:37
anything maybe like Stairmaster, uphill treadmill, that's it.
22:40
Everything else bike I don't swim but like swim cross train
22:45
for like non bearing to give it that time because if you give it
22:49
a week, that usually does help. Now you don't have to stop
22:52
training because if you're doing the bike, bike is not weight
22:56
bearing. So you're not and you're not
22:58
rolling your ankle on the bike, you have no chance of rolling an
23:00
ankle. Although once in a while when I
23:02
clip out of my bike, I do have a chance of rolling my ankle.
23:04
But yeah, you can't really do damage on the bike.
23:09
So just cross train it's way safer and do that for a week
23:15
because the worst thing that you can do when you have a bad ankle
23:18
roll is re roll it especially quick.
23:20
Like that is like the number one thing you have to avoid.
23:24
Do not re roll it. That would be like above, like
23:27
icing or like all these things, active recovery.
23:30
Do not re roll it. Number one.
23:32
I think it's like they call it the price protect, protect and
23:36
rest. Those are the first two things
23:37
you want to do. So do not re roll it at all
23:39
costs for for the week, couple weeks after.
23:44
So cross train and then so yeah, what is the price protect rest?
23:54
I think it's like elevate avoid anti inflammatories.
23:58
You can look it up, but there's like basically you want to stay
24:00
off it and you want to get blood flow to it.
24:02
So you want to keep you really want to keep training.
24:05
Like you don't. If you stop training for a week
24:07
and don't do anything and just like pick up training again,
24:09
it's going to hurt the same as if you pick it up in another
24:12
day. So I got a Caterpillar,
24:14
Caterpillar coming after me. Hold on.
24:18
See that guy? Holy.
24:19
Oh, OK. For the people listening, I'm
24:24
sorry. All right.
24:26
So yeah, you want to take care of it.
24:28
They say avoid anti inflammatories.
24:30
Honestly, I the last couple times I've just been taking
24:34
Advil for like a week just to make me feel better.
24:38
I don't know if it helps or hurts, but look it up and let a
24:41
doctor tell you what to do there.
24:43
And then any like mobility stuff, walks and cross training
24:48
is going to get blood flow and like help up that recovery
24:51
without damaging it. So that's what I would do for
24:54
the week. If it's Grade 1 and you're
24:56
feeling better, I would probably maybe keep cross training a
25:00
little bit, but then mix in like a run every other day the next
25:02
week and see how it feels. Once you give it that initial
25:05
rest, you pretty much want to start giving it doses of running
25:11
again and like see how it reacts.
25:13
So I think a good rule of thumb is like that if it's like a 2 or
25:17
a three on the pain scale, as long as it doesn't get above
25:19
that during the run or after the run, you're OK.
25:23
If it gets to that threshold and you're once you start
25:26
incorporating running again and it does get to that threshold,
25:29
back off and cross train for a couple days and just test that
25:33
out. And for grade 2, maybe do that
25:37
for like a couple more weeks longer than a Grade 1.
25:42
And then slowly build your mileage up.
25:44
Because what I've done is the past is like I give it a week to
25:46
rest or I don't. And then it feels better after
25:50
like a week or two. And I just ramp up my training
25:52
again to like kind of close to what I was before.
25:55
And then it gets like worse than it was a week ago.
25:57
Like I for the next couple weeks, I've just gone backwards,
26:00
which is what you don't want. So you got to really make sure
26:04
that it's not getting painful during your runs or the next day
26:09
and after your runs. Because sometimes like the next
26:11
day I'll wake up and it's really sore and I'm like, it didn't
26:14
feel bad during the run, but it is sore today.
26:16
And I think you just have to be honest with yourself.
26:18
If it hurts more than like a 2 or a three, you have to cross
26:22
train or you're going to make it worse.
26:25
So that's my philosophy. Start incorporating running up
26:30
until that pain threshold and then kind of like adjust.
26:33
And if this takes weeks, it could take a month of doing two
26:37
runs a week and then two days of biking after it until it starts
26:41
to feel better. And in my experience, like just
26:43
sticking that out for as long as it takes is the best way to get
26:46
back on track. But the good news, like I said,
26:49
you can train through it. So I don't really stop the
26:51
training days. I do cross training.
26:53
But the other thing too, and I made a YouTube video about this
26:55
of like 5 tips, training through injury.
26:58
And this, you know, obviously relates to anchor rules is if
27:01
you're training for mountain efforts, trails up hills, the
27:06
uphill portion of trail running is so much less impact than the
27:11
downhill. So one thing that I do to keep
27:15
your fitness, you know that that zone one, zone 2 aerobic
27:18
fitness, just do cross training and then to keep the strength
27:22
and like the higher output, I will do Stairmaster workouts.
27:26
So when you're running on a steep incline, it's hard to go
27:30
fast, obviously, and it's a lot less impact on the ankle.
27:33
And so I can actually do like grade 2 ankle sprain.
27:38
I maybe do a bike workout the week after and then the week
27:40
after that. So two weeks out from a really
27:42
bad ankle, ankle sprain, I do like a, a pretty much a full
27:47
running workout just on the Stairmaster.
27:50
And I've noticed that like that doesn't hurt it as much as just
27:52
like an easy run would. So as soon as it's not giving
27:56
you that three out of 10 pain, start doing Stairmaster workouts
28:01
or uphill treadmill workouts, or go to a mountain and run up it
28:04
and then walk down it because you can still get that higher
28:07
output. And I said I had a bad anchor
28:11
roll last last fall. It took me a few months, like I
28:14
think in the spring I was finally starting to feel better.
28:17
I had another one in July after I did lodge Dodge, which was
28:20
very disappointing and kind of frustrating.
28:22
It kind of screwed up my year and I'm just feeling better.
28:25
But over the summer, like I really haven't lost fitness.
28:28
I think I'm probably about the same as I was in the spring and
28:30
I've been running like 20 miles a week for two plus months,
28:36
which is I'm usually around like 50 miles. 4550 miles a week is
28:40
kind of like the sweet spot with some cross training for me right
28:42
now. So much less training volume,
28:46
but I've been doing a bunch of stair workouts.
28:48
I've been doing stuff on the bike and I've had some good this
28:51
fall. Like I said, I've been doing
28:52
some uphill efforts and I've had some decent uphill efforts that
28:55
I'm happy with. So like my fitness is still
28:57
there. You can keep your strong legs.
29:00
I think the key is just keep training and really give it
29:03
time, but don't just be like, oh, I'm just going to go easy
29:07
and lose all my fitness and my leg strength and I'll just have
29:10
to like wait three months so it doesn't heal.
29:12
Like I think train how you were training before, but just do
29:15
more easy runs, easy runs on the bike and then do more uphill
29:20
workouts that are less impact. And you know, that can take a
29:27
few months and it stinks, but you can still train, you can
29:31
still get out. And so it's better than having
29:34
like some sort of overuse injury where you really have to
29:36
overhaul your training and you don't know what's causing it.
29:39
And anchor roll, you know what caused it, Don't roll it again.
29:42
You can train through it. And then once you get back to
29:45
healthy, you're probably just a little bit scared to bomb
29:47
downhills a little bit more, which could be good for you.
29:51
I've definitely been more hesitant bombing downhills
29:54
recently. So yeah, that was that's how I
29:58
deal with an ankle roll. So that's my ankle roll stuff.
30:02
And like I said, I have a YouTube video on just injuries
30:04
in general. Some of those principles apply
30:06
to any injury, like the lower impact going uphill.
30:10
And I think most injuries you can train through like Kelton
30:14
Cohenberg of steady State. He's APT, super smart guy.
30:20
He was a, he's a, he is and was a really good runner.
30:23
Like he ran in college super fast and still is a really good
30:27
runner. He I've been to him before and
30:30
he and I agree with him. You can almost train through
30:33
pretty much anything unless you like tear a tendon or you have
30:37
stress fractures. You can really train through
30:40
everything it's just adjusting your training.
30:43
So just adjust your training accordingly.
30:47
OK next topic is going to be the Strava verse Garmin dilemma.
30:54
I haven't looked into it too much.
30:55
It sounds like Garmin is like suing or thinking about a
30:59
lawsuit about no longer uploading runs directly to
31:03
Strava without like marking them in Strava as like uploaded from
31:07
Garmin. And I think there's like a
31:10
deadline November 1st. If they don't get something
31:12
worked out by then, they're going to stop uploading to
31:16
Strava, which I feel like that's it's almost like the the
31:19
government shutdown. Like, you know, you always hear
31:22
about government about the shutdown and it never does
31:24
except for the summit did for me.
31:27
I feel like this is maybe just like a threat.
31:30
Government wants to get what they want, but who knows.
31:34
I mean, if they get to the to the point they're both being
31:36
like they can't agree on something and Garmin stops
31:40
uploading to Strava, I think that's going to have detrimental
31:43
effect to a lot of runners. So I guess first, just like
31:46
Garmin watches, in my opinion, they are the best watches.
31:51
Western States 100 does like a survey of all the runners and I
31:55
think Garmin has consistently been the number one watch brand
31:59
that's worn there. It used to be Garmin and then
32:03
Suto was #2 and I think like now Koros is number 2 over sunto.
32:09
And personally, I think Garmin is the best watches as far as
32:13
like GPS accuracy, reliability, all these watches.
32:17
I mean, price point is a different thing.
32:18
But like all these watches, their battery life is like
32:21
getting insane. The heart rate monitor sensors
32:24
are getting a lot better. But what I've noticed is like in
32:28
the White Mountains where you don't have a lot of service,
32:29
it's super thick woods. Garmin has been the best GPS
32:34
signal. You're not waiting on your runs
32:36
for a signal. Your runs don't get wonky for no
32:39
reason. And so I think Garmin's like the
32:42
number one watch worn. And for me, like I wear a Garmin
32:46
and I used to have a Sunto and I did have problems with it up
32:51
here a lot of the time with just connected the GPS satellite,
32:54
like trusting it sometimes like the moving time is just way off.
33:00
Your pieces are way off. Like you're you can get super,
33:02
you can get less mileage, you can get more mileage.
33:04
I mean, there were some runs where I got like a mile extra on
33:07
my Sunto. Like if I could just, yeah, if I
33:11
could go to a race and just submit my Sunto effort, they
33:13
would think I was like a pro because of like how far off the
33:17
the mileage in pieces can be, at least in the White Mountains.
33:21
So I think Garmin is a is a better watch.
33:23
And this would be a huge deal if they stop uploading to to
33:26
Strava. And so they do have a Garmin
33:27
connect and I don't usually I don't have Strava most of the
33:31
time, like I'll log on if I if I once in a while to Strava and
33:36
post some stuff, but I typically just have everything go to
33:39
Garmin connect. And I don't really get too much
33:42
into like mileage every week I really train by like I know how
33:46
many hours I've been doing. And so I'm not like a huge like
33:51
looking at my Strava graph. But I don't think Garmin like
33:55
the data. It's just hard to kind of like
33:56
look at the data. I don't know.
33:57
It's not user friendly. No, like all of the pub, the
34:00
Strava segments, like there, I there might be Garmin segments
34:03
like nobody cares about them. So as far as like a training
34:07
app, I think it's fine to look at your data, But I think the
34:10
big thing that Strava have is like the usability.
34:13
It's it's like the Apple. It's like the phone is just
34:16
better. The app is just better.
34:17
Everyone use it uses it. And and the Strava segments I
34:24
think are a big deal. Like segments.
34:26
I feel like some of them are getting like almost a race.
34:29
They're like almost races doing, doing some of these huge
34:31
segments. Like obviously you have like the
34:33
premier segments slash FK TS, like the Prezi traverse segment,
34:37
the golden segment in New England.
34:40
And I think it is a cool way to like run the whites has been
34:43
doing their throw downs where it's Strava segments.
34:45
I think it's a cool way to have competition, get involved, see
34:50
other people's times. And I don't think any other app
34:53
is going to come close to that. And so if Garmin stops letting
34:58
people upload to that, people are going to be pissed.
35:02
And I don't know if they would leave Garmin, I don't know what
35:05
would happen. I think there would be chaos.
35:08
And I think Shrava ultimately would win out.
35:10
Like, I don't know if you'd be able to like download a GPX
35:13
file, like strip of Garmin and then upload separately, but I
35:16
think that's what people would start doing.
35:18
So I think it's a huge deal. I think Garmin is the best wash.
35:22
And I think Strava is the best profile for like running.
35:26
And I think it's like they they're talking about doing an
35:27
IPO and it's like billions of dollars for this company.
35:31
And so it would stink if they did not figure it out.
35:35
And people had to go even for a week without their their, their
35:40
Strava runs. So they need to get that figured
35:44
out for the people. That's my thoughts there.
35:49
Next up, Courtney Dewalter, her marathon debut, She runs two
35:53
hours and 49 minutes. I think that's like a six 3640
35:58
minute pace. And I think when I saw this was
36:02
a few weeks ago, so I have not been fully in the loop, but when
36:05
I saw that, my initial gut reaction is she is the toughest
36:13
ultra runner. I mean, she's the GOAT of ultra
36:15
running men or women. She's the best.
36:19
I think to go like what she's done is just absolutely insane.
36:22
Go look at her ultra sign up her her was it a Triple Crown?
36:28
Like she has done insane races and she I mean she is just
36:35
tough. Like she talks about the pancave
36:36
and I legitimately think she probably has one of the the
36:39
deepest pancaves in the world because like 249 marathon is
36:46
flying. Like I think it was a hot and
36:48
windy day. I think they ran it in
36:50
Minnesota. But 249 marathon is not like
36:53
like the world record for a woman.
36:54
I don't know. It's it's in the it's definitely
36:56
under 210, I would think, or somewhere around there.
36:59
Like, she is not the just crazy genetic freak athlete that some
37:05
people are. She just runs harder, wants it
37:08
more, and it's just tougher than everybody else.
37:12
Like this is not throwing shade at Courtney Dewalter.
37:14
I think she is the GOAT. But I think a lot of people are
37:17
like, oh, wow, she is not like insanely fit.
37:20
Like it seems like when she races and destroys everybody,
37:24
destroys most of the guys, like 99% of the guys and all the
37:27
women. I think that just goes to show
37:31
you like, and I've talked about this before, when you look at
37:34
people in the trail running scene, a Walmsley, a David
37:39
Sinclair, obviously Killian, like some of these freaks and
37:43
you're like, I can never run that fast.
37:46
I'll just pack it in like I don't know.
37:50
It is not. You can succeed in these hard
37:53
long ultra trail efforts without being the the most genetic freak
37:59
athlete ever. I think people way underestimate
38:02
like just having grit training, doing everything you can to
38:06
maximize your potential. I think pretty much no one
38:10
maximize their potential. There's probably a handful of
38:11
people that have come close of really getting 100% out of
38:17
yourself at a race, but like Courtney Dwalter, Another one is
38:20
Zach Miller. He's like your favorite ultra
38:23
runner's favorite ultra runner. That's what I said before.
38:25
He runs so hard. And I think Wamsi was saying in
38:30
an interview, somebody told me this, Wamsi was saying in an
38:32
interview, like he, Jack Miller never broke, I think 16 minutes
38:37
in the 5K or 15 minutes in the 5K, one of those two.
38:41
So Walmsley probably runs like a minute plus faster than him.
38:45
And he almost beat Walmsley at UT MB 100 because he just has a
38:49
deeper well. And I think it's just
38:51
inspirational to see like, and to see people go way hard.
38:57
Like don't, yeah, must be nice to be like, you know, that that
39:02
fit just naturally or whatever. Like if you get down that
39:05
tunnel, that's just a a bad way to go.
39:07
And I've been there before. Like don't compare yourself.
39:10
If you maximize your potential you are going to be way faster
39:15
than you think you are. Everyone overestimates what they
39:19
can do in a year and underestimates what they can do
39:21
in five years. I think like that is just so
39:25
true. If you really train for a long
39:26
time you are going to get way fitter than you think you ever
39:29
could. So dream way bigger than you
39:31
think and work way harder than you think and try to increase
39:37
yet the depth of your pain cave because there are people going
39:41
away harder than you. And I don't know what, I don't
39:46
know what people are saying about Courtney's marathon.
39:49
I, I think she's going to do another one.
39:51
I guarantee she's going to do it a lot faster.
39:53
Like I'm sure some people have been like, oh, oh, that's kind
39:58
of crazy. She she only ran AA249.
40:01
I think she is super competitive and she's going to come back and
40:04
run a much faster time. And like she's been trail
40:08
running for so long. I've even know this noticed this
40:11
myself. Like I do a ton of trail running
40:13
up, always getting vert going up, going down.
40:16
But like my running economy, if I'm not doing flat road running,
40:19
it's a totally different thing. Like you can have fitness, but
40:23
if you're not running like tons of Rd. miles, you just don't
40:27
have the running economy, even though you can be powerful and
40:30
aerobically fit, you just don't have the economy to do like a
40:33
fast marathon. So I think if she runs another
40:36
marathon again, I bet it'll be sub 240.
40:39
I think her and if she trained for the last 10 years for just
40:43
marathoning, I think she would be one of the best in the world.
40:46
So, but I think that just goes to show like, don't you know,
40:51
don't look at these crazy athletes and get discouraged.
40:53
Maximize what you can do and and you're going to surprise
40:59
yourself. So that's the the Courtney the
41:03
Courtney stuff. And then I had compound interest
41:08
under this. I think this is, I don't know if
41:11
this is relates to the, to the Courtney thing, but I think like
41:14
what I was saying, you overestimate what you can do in
41:18
a year and underestimate what you can do in five years.
41:21
I think it's the same like, and this can apply to anything, like
41:24
I'm going to apply it to running and fitness, but this can apply
41:27
to anything that you do. Everyone knows compound
41:30
interest, like start saving money when you're young and way
41:34
down the line, you're going to have a lot of money.
41:36
It's going to make you money and all this stuff.
41:37
Like everybody knows that. But I think it's, it's true in
41:42
anything that you do, the longer you do it, you're just going to
41:47
keep building on top of like your fitness and what you know
41:50
about training and stuff like that.
41:52
And it's just going to keep, you're going to keep getting
41:55
fitter, fitter, fitter, fitter. I think Peter Attia, who's like
41:59
a doctor or trainer or whatever, says the compounding effect of
42:03
exercising is so great that the only thing that can get in the
42:07
way, not diet, not sleeping anything, is lack of exercising.
42:11
So if you are consistently training 6 or I always take a
42:15
rest day, but like 6 or seven days a week for years, for 10
42:19
years, you are going to make astronomical gains.
42:25
Your body produces new cells like your your whole biology can
42:28
change over the course of ten years.
42:30
You can regenerate every cell in your body.
42:33
And so yeah, I think like, yeah, don't put a limit on yourself
42:37
and and just play the long game. Like This is why I stay healthy.
42:41
Get faster. If you do that month over month,
42:44
four years, you're going to surprise yourself.
42:47
So that's the goal for me. I think that should be the goal
42:49
for everybody. I think most of these quote UN
42:52
quote genetic freaks, they've just been running for 10 plus
42:55
years longer than you. If you haven't been running like
43:02
I don't want to put like a number, but like let's say like
43:05
11:50 to 50, like that kind of hour range of running per week
43:11
for 8:00 to 10 years, you're probably nowhere close to your
43:15
to your ceiling. So don't let anybody tell you
43:18
like what your ceiling is in running just out work them get
43:22
to it. All right.
43:25
That's I think that's a pretty good.
43:28
That's a pretty good. I will say one more thing about
43:31
compounder's interest. The other thing I think people
43:35
understand that it, you know, after a long time you get a ton
43:38
of gains from something, but I think like it's like, all right,
43:41
the first year you're not going to get a ton of gains.
43:43
So like I'll just put it off for a year.
43:45
But if you put it off for a year, you're actually just
43:48
losing the last year of all of that compounding effects, which
43:54
is the greatest year. So start now.
43:57
And if you're like, oh, I should have started 5-10 years ago, the
44:01
best time to start anything is 10 years ago, but the second
44:03
best time is today. And the first few years of that
44:08
compounding growth in anything, you can make up for it very
44:12
easily. So work really hard for a little
44:15
bit. You'll get yourself up to speed.
44:17
And then just do it for a long time.
44:19
OK, That's the end. That was kind of like a good
44:21
motivational few minutes, but I'll stop talking about that
44:25
stuff now. OK, Next up, Biggs Backyard
44:31
Ultra. So like I said, this is I think
44:33
the World Trail World Championship for Backyard Ultra.
44:38
So if you don't know what a backyard ultra is, it is
44:41
essentially you run 4.16 miles or 4.2 miles every hour on the
44:49
hour until there is one person left.
44:52
So you're basically running like a little under a 15 minute mile
44:57
every hour until everybody else quits except for one person.
45:02
And so you can't get ahead, you can't get behind.
45:06
If you run the four, if you run the four miles at a 10 minute
45:08
pace, you have 20 minutes before you can start for the next hour.
45:12
So, you know, people have different strategies on if you
45:15
should run fast, if you should pace it and just come in a
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minute before the deadline to go out for the next one.
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People have different strategies.
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There's lots of walking, hiking, and it really comes down to like
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how do you manage sleep? How do you manage your new
45:29
nutrition? Like every hour you get all of
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your equipment so you can Lube up, you can eat, you can
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rehydrate, you don't have to carry a ton of stuff.
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You can take care of like a little ache or pain like massage
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or whatever. But the goal is just to keep
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going until till you can't. And so last year, I think the, I
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don't know if it was, I think it was last year at this world
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championship for backyard ultras.
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Like if you go for 24 hours one day, it's 100 miles.
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If you go for two days, 48 hours is 200 miles.
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Last year the winner ran 366 miles, which is almost four days
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straight of running at 4 miles every hour, which I talked about
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last minute standing. I don't have any interest in
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them right now. It is really just a who wants it
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more. How much grit do you have?
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Courtney's done these and she like she's done super well, but
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it is just so insane that the human body can go for four
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straight days of running without stopping like it is.
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It's hard to conceive a a four day work week or like if you had
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to work four straight days, poof, this week is this week is
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dragging by some somebody. They're not sleeping.
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Will they sleep for a couple minutes if they're strategizing?
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But like they don't get 8 hours of sleep, they don't get a warm
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whatever. They're just running for those
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full four days. So it's insane to watch.
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I think last year, like it got a lot of coverage, like the live
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stream, I don't know who live streams it, but that'll be fun
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to like watch along and we'll see if they break the four day
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mark. And one of the other things that
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I was thinking, I think Ed Clifford who won Bubba's like
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the first three years, I think he did Big's Backyard.
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I don't think he had as good as a showing as he wanted to.
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But Lucas, I think his last name starts with the J.
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We'll just leave it at that. Lucas J who won Bubba's this
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year, who went almost 2 days. I was thinking we need to get
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this guy into Big's backyard. I think it's hard to get get
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into it, but I think there are probably some backyard races
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that if you win, you get into it.
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I think we need Lucas J to get in there because like I said
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last week, if Lucas J and Ed Clifford were in a backyard
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ultra battle, I think we may successfully glitch the Matrix
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or glitch the simulation because he did for the last skier
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standing earlier this year too. So he won that as well.
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So he won those two in the same year.
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He went 72 hours. So he went three straight days
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hiking up and skiing down every hour on the hour.
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So this dude has got grip. He's got a deep well and he, if
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you can go for three days on skis, I would love to see him in
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Big's backyard Ultra. So maybe one day, maybe the one
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day that'll happen, but we'll see.
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OK, that was most of oh, van. We got van life on here.
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So I, I got my, I got my truck back.
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The van is gone. But I will say I like to drive
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in that van around. I, I feel like van life has
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gotten very popular in the White Mountains, like trail runners,
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like it's so easy to just like if you're doing like long
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efforts or if you're crewing people or if you're in the
48:52
middle of the woods in the middle of the night anyway, it's
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so convenient to just have a van like with all your stuff that
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you can sleep in. And so I always thought it was
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cool when I kind of looked into it.
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I'm like, yeah, you know, I like sleeping in my own bed kind of
49:07
thing. I'm on a huge camper, but I was
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driving that van around and just pulling up to a trailhead, put
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it in park and then like not getting out of the the truck,
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just walking back and having all of my stuff there.
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It was so nice. I tented out last week and I
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didn't sleep in the van, but I tented out and I just threw all
49:25
the camping stuff in there. And I was thinking like, and I
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was thinking this thing is kind of roomy.
49:30
I kind of, I could put a bed in here, put it this way, fold it
49:34
up, put a chair, put some stuff. And it really had me thinking.
49:38
I think for me, ultimately I think I just need a house.
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Like I live in an apartment, but I do need that to come back to.
49:46
But one day if I could afford a van and also have that for like
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all these crazy trail stuff, I might do it.
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I might do it. So sad the van is gone.
49:57
I enjoyed it for a week but van life is kind of cool.
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That's my conclusion there. One other note, biking.
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So this was a couple weeks ago but I was biking with one of my
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buddies and biking is. I really like biking but I think
50:15
once I started looking at watts and speed and road because I
50:18
have a road bike it got less fun because biking like I don't
50:22
know. I don't know if I just have weak
50:23
legs or what but biking is hard. Like I've always noticed I can't
50:27
get my heart rate super high up on a bike ride.
50:31
And it just feels like like if I bike for a couple hours,
50:35
especially climbing on a bike, after a couple hours, it just
50:38
feels like impossible. I'm like my legs are so weak, I
50:40
can't get my heart rate up high. I just think of biking so and
50:44
it's always like, you got all this things like my bike just
50:46
makes a new noise every time I bring it out, which is not like
50:49
super fun because I don't know what any of the noises mean and
50:52
I don't like bringing it in. So I just kind of ride and hope
50:56
it goes away. But it's just like another thing
50:58
you get the bike shoes to help. Like I, I like just grabbing a
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pair of shoes, my vest and going.
51:03
But biking is fun. Like when you're, but when you
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have a good day biking, you feel on top of the world.
51:07
One of my favorite things to do on a bike is when you're passing
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by runners, especially runners that don't look like they're
51:12
having super fun because some people, you know, just grind
51:15
roads or whatever. I'm, I'm always having a blast
51:18
on bike. Like if I'm going downhill, I'm
51:20
having a blast. So it's, it's super nice.
51:22
But when I was biking with a buddy and I look at before I get
51:27
into it, I was looking at, I look at Strava segments on a
51:30
bike and I'm like, this is impossible.
51:31
They they must be riding an E bike.
51:33
How do they go up this so fast? How do they ride so fast?
51:37
And some of the bikes are crazy. Like I don't have a super fast
51:40
bike, but it is like a, it might be carbon fiber or a bike, I
51:44
don't know. It's it's like 1500 bucks.
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But I'm like, how do they go so fast?
51:50
I was biking with my buddy who's who does more biking with me in
51:53
the Super strong legs, super strong biker, strong runner.
51:57
Ryan Fournier, who yeah, yeah, talked about him in the washed
52:02
Dodge. He paced me and then he he was
52:03
on the top ten in the white, the boots spur throw down.
52:07
We're biking together and he was kind of showing me like when
52:10
you're biking in a peloton, like drafting, and I was drafting him
52:15
for a little bit. There was like a couple sections
52:17
that we kind of, I went ahead or he went ahead, I was drafting,
52:21
then I went ahead, he was drafting.
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And when you're drafting behind somebody on a bike, so much more
52:26
fun. It's so much easier.
52:28
I didn't realize how much drafting affected things.
52:32
And so I was like, oh, OK, wait. I'm understanding biking a
52:36
little bit more here. Like you have good days.
52:38
And then if you can bike with a group and draft, like if you
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bike with five people and you don't get 4/5 of the time you're
52:44
drafting, you're just going faster.
52:47
You look cooler. I can see how biking is cool.
52:50
So I had my first drafting experience.
52:52
I liked it. I think I'd be scared to go on
52:55
like a group ride. Like I always like the bike
52:57
shops will host group rides and I'm always like, oh, it'd be fun
53:00
to go, but I don't think my brakes are very good and I'd be
53:02
scared that I would crash into somebody and be like, sorry,
53:06
sorry guys, but that was the biking thing.
53:10
And then last but not least, the deer season update.
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So talked a little bit about this last week and I'm just
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going to start throwing these in for the next like a month or so
53:20
because like I said, that is like my other big hobby in the
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fall I go. I like going deer hunting and
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I've been hunting really hard this year.
53:30
Like the goal for me is always to fill the freezer and I have
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been doing a good job at that. Me and my dad, between us, like
53:38
last year we got combined 9 deer so I got 5, he got 4 / 500 lbs
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of the best meat that you can buy.
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We had just an awesome year. It was very successful.
53:50
And one thing too quick a note because people are always like
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how can you shoot 5 deer? Like, how was that legal?
53:57
If you if you use a bow, you get extra tags.
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They give out extra antlerless tags to help manage the deer
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population. And then I hunt in Maine as
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well, which you get extra tags there.
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So I have plenty of tags. All legal, all all good there.
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But yeah, we just had a really good year last year.
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I ate. I, like I said, I last week I
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didn't eat, I didn't buy red meat from the grocery store for
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11 1/2 months. But yeah, the first couple weeks
54:26
of the season were tough. Like I was seeing a lot of deer,
54:28
but I just, it's really, really hard to get them with a bow.
54:31
They have to be so close. And it's just deer hunting is
54:35
just hard in general. And with a bow it's, it's that
54:37
much harder. So I was kind of getting my butt
54:39
kicked a little bit, but I was enjoying just getting out.
54:41
Like it's nice to kind of like explore new woods.
54:45
So I was doing a lot of that. Like I didn't go to the same
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spot. I haven't gone to the same spot.
54:50
I think I went to one spot the same twice this year, but just
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exploring it wasn't getting out. Seen a lot of deer hadn't got
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one. I posted a video on my YouTube
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which I was like, this isn't really because they're always
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like you got to stay within your niche.
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But I'm just going to post whatever.
55:05
I posted a little clip of a of a buck that I saw two weeks ago.
55:10
And like I said, I'm just trying to fill my freezer.
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Once I get my deer, I just go back to running.
55:16
Like I, I would rather be in the mountains and I don't know,
55:20
after a season of deer hunting, I would rather be in the
55:22
mountains and deer hunting like towards the end.
55:24
But yeah, so and so I haven't really shot like any like, you
55:30
know, big bucks. Some guys are really into like
55:32
the trophy like shooting big bucks and I'm just really trying
55:34
to get the meat. But you know, would, would still
55:38
be cool to see. Like, I mean, the deer in
55:40
general are just so cool. Like you're sitting there, it's
55:43
getting dark in the woods. And then like these just forest
55:45
ponies come out of nowhere and they're like, you guys live out
55:47
here. But yeah, so I'm going into a
55:51
new spot and I'm basically like setting up.
55:53
I have it's called the saddle. So I'm setting up my saddle and
55:56
I'm like climbing the trees. You have to just climb a tree
55:59
and set your thing up. I'm like up in a tree, 15 feet
56:02
trying to set my thing up. And I make a little noise and I
56:04
look to the left and this, this big buck is just looking at me.
56:07
I'm like, Oh my gosh, my bow is on the ground.
56:09
I haven't pulled my bow up. So if you watch the video and
56:12
see, but so that was like a cool experience.
56:14
I haven't seen a ton of like big bucks like that in the woods.
56:17
So it was just cool to see like a mature, a big mature deer like
56:21
that. And he let me watch him for like
56:24
a minute or two. So I, you know, I have the clip
56:26
there. Whatever.
56:27
It's not like a super good clip and but I put it on the YouTube
56:30
and I was like, yeah. And then it so didn't didn't get
56:34
him the next day. I got my first year of the year.
56:38
It was a small one, but I filled one of my antler list tags and
56:42
it was a good start to the year. And my dad has already got 1.
56:46
So we're so we got 2 deers so far this year.
56:48
So the freezer is getting restocked and yeah, I'm excited.
56:53
The next month or so is really like gun season for deer hasn't
56:56
opened yet. So it opens in a in a few weeks.
56:59
That's when, like, you know, a lot more people are out, but
57:01
then deer kind of moving around more and everything.
57:04
So it's a good time of year. I I think October is my favorite
57:08
month. Yeah.
57:09
I like when it's getting crisp. I love running on the trails in
57:12
October, getting out, deer hunting, just being outside.
57:17
So it's been a good month. That's all I have for this
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episode. What do we got here?
57:24
Almost at an hours. Sounds good to me.
57:29
Yeah. I just want to say again, thank
57:30
you for all the support. Anyone listening?
57:33
It's been pretty cool. I don't know why I was so like,
57:37
I don't know, I'm sure a lot of people have like thoughts like
57:40
this guy's whatever, but yeah, I think it's really cool.
57:44
Like I didn't really, I guess a lot of people have been super
57:48
supportive and been like, oh, that's awesome for you.
57:50
Like good, good for you. And I kind of been feeling like
57:53
that, like it feels like it's, you know, I just want to, I've
57:56
had so many experiences out here.
57:58
I've learned so much. Like I said, I've had thousands
58:00
and thousands of hours of like running ultra running trail
58:05
running mountain stuff. And so I feel like I have a lot
58:08
of value to offer. Like things that I know I've
58:10
heard cool stories, I've done cool things.
58:12
So I have a lot of like stories and stuff that I'll that I'll
58:14
tell in these podcasts. If anybody has any questions
58:18
they related to running mountains, anything like that,
58:22
I'll like answer them in these podcasts.
58:25
But yeah, I think the goal is to just like extract the value out
58:28
of me and share it with you guys, crack some jokes in
58:32
between. So that's the whole idea for Run
58:35
Mountain Peaks. Try to just get people out more.
58:40
Try to share what I know. Bring the camera along.
58:44
I haven't bring the camera along on as many like mountain runs.
58:47
Today was a beautiful day, I'll say that.
58:50
But share some of that stuff too.
58:53
And yeah, that is kind of the goal, the goal for the podcast
58:56
and the YouTube channel. So appreciate all the support.
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We're going to keep it going. Hopefully enjoyed some people.
59:03
Maybe there's a few new listeners that that can take
59:06
stuff away from this. But yeah, that's all I got for
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this week. We'll see you next week.
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Peace.