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Manhunt Underway for Illegal Alien Who Committed Mass Murder, plus More Damning News About Hunter Biden's Fixer: Tony Blinken · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcoming to his verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
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Speaker 1: with you, Senator. We've got a lot to unpack on
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Speaker 1: today's episode, especially dealing first off with what happened with
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Speaker 1: an illegal immigrant that decided to turn a gun on
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Speaker 1: his neighbors. We're going to give you all the details
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Speaker 1: on that, plus some breaking news with Hunter Biden that
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Speaker 1: deals with the Secretary of Anthony Blincoln now being accused
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Speaker 1: of lying under oath to Congress. And there's a Supreme
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Speaker 1: Court justice it's now saying he thinks he knows who
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Speaker 1: the leaker is at the Supreme Court. Is it time
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Speaker 1: to bring in the FBI? That's something you called for.
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Speaker 1: We're going to deal with all of that on today's show,
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Speaker 1: But first let's start with his tragic story center coming
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Speaker 1: out of Texas that affects the entire country. Now as
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Speaker 1: there's a man hunt underway, give a little bit of
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Speaker 1: the background on what happened here with this illegal immigrant
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Speaker 1: that have already been deported before, who shot innocent people
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Speaker 1: that live next door to him.
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Speaker 2: So, as you and I are recorded this, it is
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Speaker 2: eleven thirty eight pm late Sunday night, and as we're
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Speaker 2: speaking there is a massive manhunt. Over two hundred law
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Speaker 2: enforcement officers are searching for Francisco or a Pisa, who
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Speaker 2: is an illegal immigrant. He's a Mexican national. He has
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Speaker 2: been deported, possibly multiple times. He's thirty eight years old,
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Speaker 2: and sadly, all of us know what happened now. Where
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Speaker 2: he was in his yard. He was firing his rifle
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Speaker 2: late at night, after eleven o'clock at night, and his
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Speaker 2: neighbors asked him, hey, could you stop firing your rifle.
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Speaker 2: We have a baby who's trying to sleep. And this
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Speaker 2: guy was apparently very drunk, and he got upset at that,
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Speaker 2: and he came next door and he shot five of
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Speaker 2: his neighbors, including an eight year old boy. Many of
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Speaker 2: them were shot execution style. Two of the adults who
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Speaker 2: were killed, their bodies were found laying on top of children,
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Speaker 2: and they saved the children's lives by sacrificing their own bodies.
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Speaker 2: This psychopath committed this crime not far from where you
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Speaker 2: and I live. It was in Cleveland, Texas, which is
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Speaker 2: north of Houston. And it's horrific a that anyone would
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Speaker 2: would go and execute a family and execute children. But
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Speaker 2: as soon as it happened, the media went into their
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Speaker 2: standard playbook where it was all about the AR fifteen
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Speaker 2: and it was the gun's fault, and you saw article
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Speaker 2: after article after article. Well, this just shows that it's
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Speaker 2: the gun's fault. And the answer is, we need more
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Speaker 2: gun control. We need more gun control. And I have
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Speaker 2: to tell you, as the story broke, my team was
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Speaker 2: in close consultation with law enforcement on the ground, and
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Speaker 2: we heard from law enforcement within hours that this individual
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Speaker 2: was an illegal alien.
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Speaker 3: And none of the.
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Speaker 2: Media we're covering that that fact just magically disappeared, the
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Speaker 2: fact that he was a Mexican national. The vast majority
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Speaker 2: of the news stories omitted that fact.
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Speaker 3: And then.
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Speaker 2: Earlier today on Sunday, the news formally broke. Fox News
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Speaker 2: broke the news that Ice had confirmed a Fox News
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Speaker 2: that he was an illegal alien, that he had been
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Speaker 2: deported previously. I got to say, and in fact, that
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Speaker 2: he has had quote multiple illegal re entries on his record,
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Speaker 2: and the last encounter with Ice was in twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 2: So that's what's been reported now. And I'm going to
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Speaker 2: make a prediction to you, Ben, now that we know
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Speaker 2: that this was an illegal alien going on a killing spree,
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Speaker 2: suddenly magically CNN's going to lose interest suddenly, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC,
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Speaker 2: Washington Post, New York Time.
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Speaker 3: There's no story, nothing to see here. Nope.
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Speaker 2: Sorry, this does not fit our narrative. And I got
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Speaker 2: to say, we're dealing with day after day after day crime,
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Speaker 2: sexual assault, murders being committed by elial aliens, over six million,
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Speaker 2: of whom Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have allowed to
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Speaker 2: flood into this country with their open borders.
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Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned that this crime and how hanus
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Speaker 1: it was. We saw a week two weeks ago now
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Speaker 1: there was another report out that there was a young
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Speaker 1: girl that had been sexually assaulted and they found like
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Speaker 1: countless number of different DNAs on her from different people
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Speaker 1: that sexually assault her. This is what happens when you
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Speaker 1: have a open border in the cartels that are human
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Speaker 1: trafficking this way. And I think the part that's even
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Speaker 1: more shocking is the Department of Home Insecurity secretary on
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Speaker 1: Sunday morning, was on Meet the Press and he was
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Speaker 1: asked a very simple question out of secure border. The
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Speaker 1: question was, what is the definition of a secure border
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Speaker 1: to you? Now, obviously, Senator, your definition and my definition
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Speaker 1: of secure border is very different than my orchis. But
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Speaker 1: here's how I responded to this horrific humanitarian crisis.
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Speaker 3: What's the definition of secure border to you? It is
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Speaker 3: in the context in which we are working.
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Speaker 4: It is maximizing the resources that we have available to
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Speaker 4: us to deliver the most effective results.
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Speaker 5: What does that even mean, Senator, because I don't know
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Speaker 5: what that even means.
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Speaker 2: It is utter bureaucratic gobbledegook, and he knows it. But
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Speaker 2: let me translate. When he says maximizing resources to deliver
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Speaker 2: effective results, here's what he means admitting more illegal immigrants.
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Speaker 2: He is not trying to stop illegal immigrants from breaking
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Speaker 2: the law and crossing into this country. Rather, like FedEx
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Speaker 2: or ups, he's trying to get more efficient at delivering,
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Speaker 2: in this case, human beings. Because Alejandro Mayorcis is the
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Speaker 2: final mile of the human trafficking network. The cartels make billions.
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Speaker 2: They transport six million people to the United States illegally,
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Speaker 2: and they hand them over to Mayorcis and he delivers
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Speaker 2: them the final bit of the stretch. And what is
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Speaker 2: he trying to do? Not stop it, not reduce the numbers.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the obvious answer, what's the secure border. Well,
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Speaker 2: when you stop people from crossing illegally, it's not complicated,
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Speaker 2: and any moron with a double digitiq could answer that question.
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Speaker 2: It takes someone really smart and actively trying to undermine
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Speaker 2: the rule of law to give the kind of gobbledegook
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Speaker 2: answer Mayorcis did. And what he is trying to do
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Speaker 2: is make it even faster that when someone is handed
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Speaker 2: over to custody, that they get them and turn them
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Speaker 2: over quicker and quicker and quicker and quicker, that they're efficient.
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Speaker 3: That's what he calls the secure border.
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Speaker 2: It is, in Orwellian speak, precisely the opposite.
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Speaker 3: Of a secure border.
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Speaker 2: What he means is an open border where they're really
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Speaker 2: gosh darn efficient at bringing in people like Francisco Auropessa,
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Speaker 2: this mass murderer, who right now there's a national man
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Speaker 2: hunting and you know what we haven't seen. We haven't
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Speaker 2: seen Alejandro Mayorkas say. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for not
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Speaker 2: doing my job. I'm sorry for stopping Ice from finding
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Speaker 2: and deporting this man. I'm sorry for refusing to enforce
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Speaker 2: the laws. I'm sorry for the five dead people because
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Speaker 2: this psychopath repeatedly entered the country illegally. And I'm sorry
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Speaker 2: that Joe Biden and Kamala Harrison, every Democrat in the
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Speaker 2: Senate is just fine with letting in mass murderers and
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Speaker 2: doing nothing to remove them. I gotta say I'm angry,
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Speaker 2: and everyone should be angry read because this will keep happening.
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Speaker 2: And it's why the media doesn't want to discuss it.
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Speaker 2: They want to make it about guns. They don't want
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Speaker 2: to about illegal immigrants.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the story should be about the fact that now
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Speaker 1: this individual pose a threat to the entire country. We
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Speaker 1: don't know where he is, we don't know how far
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Speaker 1: he's gone, any estate, any state in America. And yet
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Speaker 1: they made it about the gun that was used before
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Speaker 1: they knew the facts about him re entering this country
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Speaker 1: apparently multiple times illegally, having interaction with the ICE, having
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Speaker 1: interaction with law enforcements in twenty sixteen. And yet the media,
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned it, they will not focus on this
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Speaker 1: threat to the country with an individual that was clearly
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Speaker 1: this deranged.
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Speaker 2: It the media they no longer cover facts. So the
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Speaker 2: fact that this guy was an illegal immigrant, the fact
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Speaker 2: that the Biden political agenda actively frustrated in removing him
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Speaker 2: from the United States, We don't know right now if
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Speaker 2: he entered under Biden or not. It's not clear from
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Speaker 2: what Ice has from what Fox has reported. He may
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Speaker 2: have entered under Biden, he may have entered before. We
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Speaker 2: don't know right now. What we do know is for
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Speaker 2: the last two and a half years that Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: has been president and Kamala Harris has been Vice president,
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Speaker 2: that they have been actively preventing Ice from doing their job,
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Speaker 2: which is finding psychopaths like him and deporting him. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm the author in the Senate of Kate's Law. Kate's
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Speaker 2: Law is named for Kate Steinley, a beautiful young woman
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Speaker 2: in northern California who was shot and killed on a
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Speaker 2: peer by another illegal alien, an illegal alien who, just
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Speaker 2: like Francisco or a pet Pessa, had been deported over
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Speaker 2: and over and over again, and he kept coming through
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Speaker 2: the revolving door. And Kate's Law provides that any person
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Speaker 2: with an aggravated felony who enters the country illegally multiple
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Speaker 2: times will have a mandatory minimum prison sentence and will
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Speaker 2: be locked up. If Kate's Law had been on the books,
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Speaker 2: Kate Steinley would be alive. I've visited with her family
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Speaker 2: her father. Her father held his daughter as she lay
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Speaker 2: dying in his arms. And I'll tell you several times
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Speaker 2: I have forced a vote on the Senate floor on
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Speaker 2: Kate's Law, and consistently the Democrats vote party line against
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Speaker 2: Kate's Law. It's important to understand it's not just that
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Speaker 2: the media likes to make it out that, oh, the
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Speaker 2: Democrats are just about really sympathetic immigrants, about dreamers or
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Speaker 2: what have you. Look, Kate's Law is about aggravated felons.
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Speaker 2: It's about violent criminals, and the Democrats don't want to
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Speaker 2: deport them either. They don't want to enforce the law
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Speaker 2: against them either. It is precisely these sorts of psychopaths
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Speaker 2: that the federal government has an obligation to protect our
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Speaker 2: communities against, to protect our children against. But Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: and Kamala Harris and all of the other Democrats, they
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Speaker 2: still refuse to do anything about it.
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Speaker 1: Last question on this, and it goes back to the
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Speaker 1: job of the head of the Department of Homeland Security.
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Speaker 1: If you take my Orcus's name out of it, what
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Speaker 1: is the job of the Department of Home in Security,
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Speaker 1: the head? If it's not to keep us safe, then
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Speaker 1: what is it, because clearly my Orcus is not doing
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Speaker 1: that job.
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Speaker 2: Homeland Security, the name itself sums it up, to keep
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Speaker 2: the homeland, to keep America secured, to keep it safe.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Fox News is reporting about Arobessa,
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Speaker 2: which is that he was deported five times five between
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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine and twenty sixteen. That he kept
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Speaker 2: being deported over and over and over again, and yet
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Speaker 2: he's still here and now over two hundred law enforcement
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Speaker 2: officers are searching for him after he's murdered five people,
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Speaker 2: including an eight year old child.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you deported him after he had a sentence,
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Speaker 1: I wonder if you'd be able to come back in
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Speaker 1: this country. He's pretty good at it before, and when
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Speaker 1: you have an open border, this is exactly what you get.
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Speaker 5: It'll be very interesting to see.
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Speaker 2: Well, and we'll see what criminal record he has. But
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Speaker 2: if Kate's Law, the Democrats had not blocked Kate's Law,
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Speaker 2: depending on his criminal record, there's a good possibility that
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Speaker 2: he would have been not deported but locked up in prison,
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Speaker 2: which meant would mean there would be five people alive,
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Speaker 2: including a child, if he were locked up in prison.
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Speaker 2: And this is where the Democrats over and over again,
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Speaker 2: they get it wrong. Whenever there is a crime, they
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Speaker 2: focus on disarming law abiding citizens rather than what we
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Speaker 2: need to do, which is lock up the bad guy,
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Speaker 2: lock up the criminals, lock up the psychopaths, lock up
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Speaker 2: the murderers. The Democrats not only don't want to do that,
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Speaker 2: but they block efforts to lock up the bad guys,
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Speaker 2: and they advocate letting them out of prison.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it truly is amazing. And I hope this story.
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Speaker 1: I hope they find him before he's able to do
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Speaker 1: any more harm to anyone else. And as you said,
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Speaker 1: you and Heidi yeas thoughts and prayers obviously with these
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Speaker 1: this family that's been affected this way by an individual
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Speaker 1: that should have never been in our country the first place.
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Speaker 1: He should have stayed out of this country after deporting
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Speaker 1: the first, second, third, et cetera. Time on, and yet
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Speaker 1: we're still dealing with the same issue. Senator, I want
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Speaker 1: to move to this other really shocking news story, and
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Speaker 1: that is that Anthony Blinken set up meetings with Hunter
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Speaker 1: Biden using private email addresses and apparently lied to Congress
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Speaker 1: we need to give a little bit of a backstory
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Speaker 1: here so people understand Anthony Blincoln has gotten a lot
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Speaker 1: of bad press over the last ten days. We find
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Speaker 1: out that he's the one that basically was able to
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Speaker 1: get that letter pen from all of those fifty plus
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Speaker 1: intelligence individuals at the highest level of the Deep State
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Speaker 1: saying that the Hunter Biden laptop was rushing disinformation. We
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Speaker 1: then find out that he, you know, when he had
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Speaker 1: to get you approved by Congress, that he was lying
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Speaker 1: apparently to Congress about his interactions with Hunter Biden and
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Speaker 1: knew a lot that Hunter Biden was doing with business dealings.
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Speaker 1: This is part of what Senator Johnson had to say
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Speaker 1: earlier today about releasing his testimony to the public.
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Speaker 6: So we're going to be watching that story. Senator, you
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Speaker 6: said you're going to release that information next week on
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Speaker 6: Anthony Blincoln and him lying to you. What else should
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Speaker 6: we look forward to in terms of your investigation and
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Speaker 6: making those things public when.
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Speaker 4: Well, again, we'll make those transcripts of his interview with
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Speaker 4: US public so people can see exactly how he lied
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Speaker 4: to Congress. And again we will request interviews. Will certainly
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Speaker 4: send them a letter to preserve their records, their personal emails,
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Speaker 4: their personal texts. We want to find out exactly what
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Speaker 4: they were doing with the Hunter Biden in twenty fifteen
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Speaker 4: and twenty sixteen. Remember Hunter joined the board in twenty fourteen,
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Speaker 4: Anthony Blinkn became Deputy Secretary of Saint the Tale of
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Speaker 4: twenty fourteen. I think he was confirmed to twenty fifteen.
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Speaker 4: He knew all of this stuff, he denied knowing any
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Speaker 4: of it.
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Speaker 5: He denied knowing any of it.
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Speaker 1: And Senator Anthony and Blincoln apparently set up meetings with
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden using a private email address. Sounds a lot
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Speaker 1: like Hillary Quinton when she didn't want us to read
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Speaker 1: her emails as well.
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Speaker 2: You know, more and more evidence is coming out that
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Speaker 2: suggests that Anthony Blinken was the Michael Cohen to Joe Biden.
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Speaker 2: Michael Cohen was Donald Trump's fixer. He sent him in
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Speaker 2: whenever there was a mess, whenever there's a political mess.
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Speaker 2: And Michael Cohen, I think it's fair to say, had
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Speaker 2: a less than close relationship with the truth. Tony blinkn Now,
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Speaker 2: when there's a scandal, when there's a mess, when there's
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Speaker 2: a mess involving Hunter Biden, when there's a mess involving corruption,
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Speaker 2: it appears for years Joe Biden has gone to Tony
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Speaker 2: Blinken and said, Okay, go make it better, Go go
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Speaker 2: fix it. It's like Luca Brassey from The Godfather, Send
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Speaker 2: for Luca, you know, So Tony, Tony Blinken is Luca.
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Speaker 2: And so whether it's right before the election gathering up
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Speaker 2: fifty intelligence officials, former intelligence officials to sign a letter
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Speaker 2: that was lying, that was falsely claiming that the laptop
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Speaker 2: was Russian disinformation, it appears that Tony Blinken is a
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Speaker 2: very accomplished master of disinformation, of lying when it benefits
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden politically, because it is covering up misconduct. And
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Speaker 2: so that letter was designed to get all of the
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Speaker 2: lapdogs in the media to say, oh, okay, it's Russian disinformation,
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Speaker 2: we won't cover it, which is exactly what they did.
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Speaker 2: It was designed to get big Tech to suppress the story,
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Speaker 2: which is exactly what they did. And now we have
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Speaker 2: what Ron Johnson said said on Maria Bartiromo Sunday morning.
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Speaker 2: It is that when Tony Blinken was being interviewed, that
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Speaker 2: interviewed under oath, that he repeatedly claimed that he did
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Speaker 2: not know about Hunter Biden's business dealings, about his business
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Speaker 2: dealings with Devin Archer, about his business dealings with John
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Speaker 2: kerry Son, about his business dealings with Barisma, about his
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Speaker 2: business dealings with the Chinese communist. Blinken claimed to be wonderfully,
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Speaker 2: blissfully ignorant of all of that.
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Speaker 1: And to be clear, these email corresponds between then Debuty
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Speaker 1: Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln and Hunter Biden show that
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Speaker 1: they had meetings and lunches that were set up by
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Speaker 1: Blinken using his personal email instead of his government address.
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Speaker 1: So it's not even like it was just like a
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Speaker 1: quick message. They were spending time together.
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Speaker 2: Look, this is now twice in a matter of two
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Speaker 2: weeks that Blincoln has been implicated in dishonesty, and in
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Speaker 2: material dishonesty that is directed towards covering up the evidence
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Speaker 2: of corruption of Hunter Biden selling access to his father,
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden, to our foreign adversaries. The amazing thing is, look,
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Speaker 2: Michael Cohen ended up being a convicted Felon Tony Blinken
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Speaker 2: got to be Secretary of State. I will say this,
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden knows how to pay off his fixers. I mean, wow,
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Speaker 2: you know, foggy bottom, your own jet flying all over
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Speaker 2: the world, that it's quite the reward for being Luca
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Speaker 2: Brazi and making bad political messes go away.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The batch of emails that's been reviewed by the Washington
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Speaker 1: Examiner dealt with quote conversations between Anthony Blincoln and Biden
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Speaker 1: when Blincoln served as Deputy Secretary of State under former
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Speaker 1: President Barack Obama in twenty fifteen. Biden asked b Lincoln
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Speaker 1: to get together to get his quote advice on a
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Speaker 1: couple of things, to which Blincoln set up a meeting
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Speaker 1: using an AOL address instead of his state government address.
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Speaker 1: When you do it like that, is it pretty clear
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Speaker 1: to you that that's a good indication that you're probably
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Speaker 1: trying to hide something when you go off the grid
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Speaker 1: in this way.
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Speaker 2: Well, look, not necessarily, and there there is a place
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Speaker 2: for personal communications. But what it is an indication of
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Speaker 2: is that you know about it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I was just to say, better question is if you
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Speaker 1: lie about it later, which is which is? But Ron
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Speaker 1: Johnson saying he did, and then you go back and
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Speaker 1: find it's an aol off the grid kind of account here.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty damning in my opinion.
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Speaker 2: If you lie about it and hide it, that in
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Speaker 2: a court of law will be taken as an evidence
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Speaker 2: of a guilty conscience, evidence that you are deliberately that
21:22
Speaker 2: you know what you did is wrong, if you lie
21:24
Speaker 2: about it and try to cover it up. And that's
21:26
Speaker 2: a pattern that seems to be repeating.
21:34
Speaker 1: There also seem to be some commingling, and I'm reading
21:37
Speaker 1: part of these emails for everybody that is listening. This
21:42
Speaker 1: was again Hunter Biden saying, quote, have a few minutes
21:45
Speaker 1: next week to grab a cup of coffee. I know
21:47
Speaker 1: you're impossibly busy, but would like to get your advice
21:50
Speaker 1: on a couple of things best, Hunter Biden wrote. Blincoln
21:53
Speaker 1: responded absolutely, I'm just about to land in Tokyo and
21:56
Speaker 1: back to DC from Burma. I'll be in the office
21:59
Speaker 1: from two Tuesday on copying Linda in my office to
22:02
Speaker 1: find a good time. Look forward to seeing you, Tony.
22:06
Speaker 1: So if he's using government resources to set up these meetings,
22:09
Speaker 1: isn't that another conflict of interest as well?
22:13
Speaker 3: Well?
22:14
Speaker 2: It depends what the meetings are. But you know, it's
22:19
Speaker 2: very interesting. Hunter isn't asking to meet about, you know,
22:23
Speaker 2: just kind of advice on his tennis game. Hunter is
22:26
Speaker 2: selling access. And we know this from the laptop, we
22:30
Speaker 2: know this from the correspondence. It is very lucrative. There
22:33
Speaker 2: there are are nine or more Biden family members that
22:37
Speaker 2: collectively made over a million dollars just from communist China.
22:41
Speaker 2: That doesn't count the the over a million dollars that
22:45
Speaker 2: that Hunter Biden made from Barisma. It was good business
22:49
Speaker 2: selling access to Daddy. And and it appears to be
22:53
Speaker 2: that Tony Blinken was in on the game. Was was this?
22:56
Speaker 2: This was the access game?
22:59
Speaker 3: Uh?
22:59
Speaker 2: And if Tony Blinken wants to participate in that sort
23:06
Speaker 2: of corruption, he doesn't get to simultaneously claim ignorance that
23:10
Speaker 2: it's going on. And I have to say there was
23:13
Speaker 2: an opinion piece that was written in The Hill by
23:17
Speaker 2: Jonathan Turley that is entitled Hunter's Collapsing World Why a
23:21
Speaker 2: criminal plea could now be the best option for the Bidens,
23:24
Speaker 2: And it points out that the Bidens are facing a
23:29
Speaker 2: real risk of these criminal investigations going on and dragging on,
23:32
Speaker 2: and in particular dragging Daddy into it, and so they
23:36
Speaker 2: may well have an incentive to try to cut a
23:39
Speaker 2: plea deal to make all of this go away. And
23:43
Speaker 2: this is something we've talked about on Verdict at length.
23:45
Speaker 2: But there will be a tell. If next week or
23:49
Speaker 2: the week after the week after, you see a headline
23:52
Speaker 2: that Hunter Biden is indicted, look to what the counts
23:56
Speaker 2: are and if the counts are are tax violations by
24:04
Speaker 2: Hunter or gun law violations. And the leaks from the
24:09
Speaker 2: Justice Department have indicated there are four charges that the
24:12
Speaker 2: Department is considering, two misdemeanor counts for failure to fire taxes,
24:17
Speaker 2: a single felony count of tax evasion related to a
24:20
Speaker 2: business expense for one year of taxes, and a potential
24:23
Speaker 2: felony count on falsifying a form linked to a gun permit.
24:28
Speaker 2: Now those charges could result in jail time. But what's interesting,
24:36
Speaker 2: you know what is not in those list of charges
24:38
Speaker 2: that they're leaking.
24:40
Speaker 5: What's that a charge of.
24:41
Speaker 2: Being an unregistered foreign agent under the Foreign Agent Registration Act.
24:47
Speaker 3: It's called FARA.
24:48
Speaker 2: And the reason that that's quite interesting is because DOJ
24:52
Speaker 2: used that charge aggressively against people around Trump, including Paul
24:58
Speaker 2: manifort and and sent them to jail for it. And look,
25:04
Speaker 2: if DOJ were to charge Hunter with being a foreign
25:08
Speaker 2: unregistered agent, that's very inconvenient for the White House narrative
25:14
Speaker 2: and the media narrative that there is no foreign corruption
25:16
Speaker 2: and influence peddling. But if they omit it, it sure
25:21
Speaker 2: does suggest a double standard. What we've said on this
25:24
Speaker 2: podcast before. If any DOJ charges focus only on Hunter himself,
25:31
Speaker 2: on his personal violations, all of which can be explained
25:35
Speaker 2: that he's a troubled soul with a substance abuse problem,
25:39
Speaker 2: then you know it's a cover up because what the
25:44
Speaker 2: investigation should focus on is official corruption connected to Joe Biden.
25:51
Speaker 2: And the more the charges seek to erect a wall
25:56
Speaker 2: protecting the White House, the more the Merrick Garland doojay
26:02
Speaker 2: is behaving as political defenders of Biden rather than a
26:07
Speaker 2: political enforces of law.
26:09
Speaker 1: Well, we can call it the media on one thing, Senator,
26:11
Speaker 1: and that's going to be this. It's being a reported
26:14
Speaker 1: that this lunch between Blincoln and Hunter. Biden eventually took
26:18
Speaker 1: place on July the twenty second of twenty fifteen, according
26:21
Speaker 1: to the emails. The meeting times were then shared with
26:24
Speaker 1: Devin Archer and Eric Sweern, another business partner, shady business
26:30
Speaker 1: partners of Hunter Biden that were heavily involved in the
26:33
Speaker 1: money that came into the Biden crime family. It'll be
26:37
Speaker 1: very interesting to see if that is brought up by
26:39
Speaker 1: anybody else, because certainly it should be.
26:41
Speaker 5: I think you would agree.
26:45
Speaker 3: I think.
26:47
Speaker 2: The Biden White House desperately wants to make this all
26:50
Speaker 2: go away.
26:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go, and go away quickly.
26:53
Speaker 1: I want to talk about also something else, and that's
26:56
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26:57
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26:59
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Speaker 1: it has in the past for the FBI to now
28:14
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28:19
Speaker 1: leaked the Dobs case. There is one Supreme Court justice
28:22
Speaker 1: now that says, I think I know who the leaker is.
28:25
Speaker 5: That's obviously big news.
28:27
Speaker 1: I want people to hear what you had to say
28:28
Speaker 1: on Fox Business with Maria Bartiromo on Sunday.
28:32
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, you've got Alito, Justice Samuel Alito saying that he
28:35
Speaker 6: knows who leaked the Dobbs draft to political last year.
28:39
Speaker 6: He thinks he knows who it is. Is it surprising
28:42
Speaker 6: to you that we still do.
28:43
Speaker 3: Not know who leaked it? You know, it is surprising,
28:46
Speaker 3: and we need to know.
28:49
Speaker 2: The leaking of that draft was one of the greatest
28:52
Speaker 2: violations of the trust of the integrity of the Supreme
28:55
Speaker 2: Court of the United States.
28:57
Speaker 3: It was really an assault on the rule of law.
28:59
Speaker 2: And if they think think they know, the Court needs
29:02
Speaker 2: to redouble the investigation. Justice Alito said he didn't have
29:05
Speaker 2: enough evidence. Here's what I believe the Chief Justice should do.
29:08
Speaker 3: I believe the.
29:08
Speaker 2: Chief Justice should call in the FBI to assist with
29:12
Speaker 2: the investigation. The Marshal's Office conducted the investigation. The Marshal's
29:16
Speaker 2: Office are very good people, but they don't have the equipment.
29:19
Speaker 2: They don't have the experience in forensic investigations the FBI does. Now,
29:25
Speaker 2: the Court was reluctant to do that for separation of
29:28
Speaker 2: powers reasons. You don't generally invite another branch of government
29:31
Speaker 2: into a coordinate branch. But given the severity here, what
29:35
Speaker 2: I would encourage the Chief Justice to do is invite
29:38
Speaker 2: the FBI to work cooperatively with the Marshals get the evidence.
29:43
Speaker 2: Because the individual who leaked this draft opinion should be prosecuted, should.
29:47
Speaker 3: Go to jail.
29:48
Speaker 2: If they're a member of the bar, they should be
29:50
Speaker 2: disbarred and the public has a right to know who
29:53
Speaker 2: committed this enormous breach of trust.
29:56
Speaker 1: Senator, I couldn't agree with you more on what you
29:58
Speaker 1: had to say there, but this, this is obviously significant
30:01
Speaker 1: that Alito has come out and said what he said.
30:04
Speaker 2: It's very significant. It's striking that Justice Alito has said
30:08
Speaker 2: he thinks he knows who did it. That's news, that's
30:12
Speaker 2: big news. But he also said that he couldn't prove it,
30:15
Speaker 2: that he didn't have enough to identify the person. Now,
30:18
Speaker 2: we talked about when this league happened, and a number one,
30:20
Speaker 2: how shocking it was, how it's something that in over
30:23
Speaker 2: two centuries of our nation's history has never happened. No
30:26
Speaker 2: draft Supreme Court opinion has ever been leaked until this one.
30:32
Speaker 2: And it really goes to the fundamental trust of the
30:36
Speaker 2: ability of the justices to do their work. You know,
30:43
Speaker 2: I was at the Supreme Court this weekend. This weekend
30:47
Speaker 2: we had the reunion of all of the law clerks
30:51
Speaker 2: for Chief Justice Renquist. And that used to be a
30:55
Speaker 2: reunion that happened every year when Chief Justice Renquist was alive.
30:59
Speaker 2: Now that he's past, it happens about every five years.
31:02
Speaker 2: Chief Justice John Roberts hosts the reunion now because Roberts
31:06
Speaker 2: was a clerk for Renquist, as was I, and it
31:09
Speaker 2: was a terrific It was Saturday night at the Court
31:11
Speaker 2: and we had a terrific evening reminiscing with a lot
31:14
Speaker 2: of old friends. And there are a lot of Renquist
31:16
Speaker 2: clerks who are judges, a lot of them are law professors,
31:19
Speaker 2: a lot of them are practicing lawyers or prosecutors. But
31:23
Speaker 2: a number of us were talking about how enormously harmful
31:28
Speaker 2: to the court, to the ability of the court to function.
31:31
Speaker 3: You know.
31:31
Speaker 2: Clarence Thomas made a comment shortly after it happened. He said,
31:35
Speaker 2: it's a little bit like an infidelity in a marriage.
31:38
Speaker 2: It never goes away. That lack of trust is there forever.
31:43
Speaker 2: And the way the Court operates, the justices here at
31:47
Speaker 2: oral argument, after they've read the briefs the here in
31:49
Speaker 2: oral argument, they go to conference and they cast a
31:52
Speaker 2: tentative vote on the case, and the senior Justice and
31:56
Speaker 2: the majority will assign the majority opinion to who ever
32:00
Speaker 2: here she chooses. The senior Justice in the descent will
32:03
Speaker 2: assign the principal dissent to whomever here she chooses. And
32:07
Speaker 2: then the author of the majority will draft a majority
32:11
Speaker 2: and prepare a draft and then circulate it to the justices.
32:17
Speaker 2: But it doesn't actually become a majority until you get
32:20
Speaker 2: at least five justices all joining the same opinion. And
32:24
Speaker 2: so there's a whole elaborate back and forth where justices
32:27
Speaker 2: will go back and forth and say, you know, I'm
32:30
Speaker 2: concerned about this section, I don't like this sentence, this
32:33
Speaker 2: footnotes a problem.
32:34
Speaker 3: Can we do it this way? Can we do it
32:35
Speaker 3: that way?
32:36
Speaker 2: And it there can be on an important opinion. There
32:41
Speaker 2: are frequently hundreds of edits. It's a iterative process. And
32:46
Speaker 2: by the way, the same thing is happening to the descent,
32:48
Speaker 2: where people are deciding if they want to join a descent.
32:51
Speaker 2: A justice will circulate a concurrence, and so the process
32:55
Speaker 2: is a back and forth, and there's a trust that
32:59
Speaker 2: all of that occurs in confidence until the opinions are
33:02
Speaker 2: final and they're released to the public. The universe of
33:07
Speaker 2: people who had access to this draft opinion is really small.
33:12
Speaker 2: It is essentially the nine justices. And I do not
33:14
Speaker 2: believe it was a justice. I cannot bring my brain
33:18
Speaker 2: to even contemplate that a justice would do such a thing.
33:22
Speaker 2: The likely culprits We've talked about this before, are one
33:25
Speaker 2: of the thirty six law clerks. The law clerks have
33:28
Speaker 2: access to the opinions. They are law clerks, are young lawyers.
33:32
Speaker 2: They're typically a couple of years out of law school
33:35
Speaker 2: and they spend a year working for each of the justices.
33:42
Speaker 2: So and each justice typically has four law clerks. So
33:46
Speaker 2: you've got thirty six law clerks at the court. Those
33:49
Speaker 2: are the thirty six people who are the likely suspects.
33:52
Speaker 2: And what I called for is is listen, particularly if
33:57
Speaker 2: you have a suspect.
34:00
Speaker 3: I don't believe there was a master criminal working at
34:02
Speaker 3: the court.
34:03
Speaker 2: I don't believe whoever leaked it covered their tracks beautifully.
34:07
Speaker 2: The problem is the Marshal of the court is who
34:09
Speaker 2: was in charge of the investigation?
34:12
Speaker 3: Now?
34:13
Speaker 2: Now who is is the marshal? The Marshal right now
34:17
Speaker 2: is a woman named Gail Curly. Gail Curly was a
34:21
Speaker 2: staff judge advocate, it was an attorney in the army.
34:23
Speaker 2: She was a colonel in the Army.
34:25
Speaker 3: And the Marshal's job.
34:31
Speaker 2: Is to be the chief Securities Officer of the Court
34:36
Speaker 2: and to be the facilities administrator and among the employees
34:41
Speaker 2: that the Marshal is in charge of are are the
34:44
Speaker 2: Supreme Court Police Force, so they're responsible for personal security
34:49
Speaker 2: for the justices, uh that they have expertise in. But
34:53
Speaker 2: the Marshals are not an investigatory agency that they don't
35:00
Speaker 2: investigate crimes. They don't have detectives that go go do
35:04
Speaker 2: deep dives into the forensics. They just don't have that capacity.
35:08
Speaker 2: The agency that does have that capacity is just up
35:12
Speaker 2: the street. It's the FBI. Now I understand why the
35:18
Speaker 2: Chief Justice didn't call the FBI in initially. You know,
35:21
Speaker 2: each of the three branches of government, the executive, the legislature,
35:26
Speaker 2: and the judiciary. Each of them jealously guards their own
35:30
Speaker 2: prerogatives and there's a natural instinct in the court of
35:34
Speaker 2: will handle our own mess, will dive into this, and
35:38
Speaker 2: we don't need to bring the executive into it. That
35:42
Speaker 2: might have made sense at the out set, maybe it did,
35:44
Speaker 2: maybe it didn't. Right now, it absolutely doesn't make sense.
35:48
Speaker 2: Why Because if they have a suspect that they suspect,
35:52
Speaker 2: but they don't have the evidence, they need an agency
35:57
Speaker 2: that is expert in gathering the evidence and going through
36:00
Speaker 2: and doing the forensics on the phones on the computers
36:03
Speaker 2: and tracking where those law clerks were and making the
36:06
Speaker 2: connection between whatever law clerk had contact with the reporters.
36:11
Speaker 2: And by the way, the FBI tracks down leakers in
36:13
Speaker 2: the executive branch all the time. They know how to
36:16
Speaker 2: do that, And so I'm not suggesting that the FBI
36:21
Speaker 2: should have free reign in the internal machinations of the court,
36:26
Speaker 2: but I do think it would make sense for the
36:27
Speaker 2: FBI to work cooperatively with the Marshall's office to bring
36:31
Speaker 2: that expertise and to uncover the evidence, because I think
36:35
Speaker 2: the public deserves to know who the leaker was and
36:38
Speaker 2: that individual should face very severe consequences.
36:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's I think one of the reasons why
36:44
Speaker 1: you mentioned at the very beginning that Alito coming out
36:48
Speaker 1: and saying I think I know, putting a spot like
36:51
Speaker 1: back on this, going hey, guys, this shouldn't just go away.
36:54
Speaker 1: You shouldn't just be able to act like this never happened,
36:57
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37:05
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Speaker 5: I want people to hear what you had to say
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Speaker 5: this morning.
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Speaker 6: All activists are all over the Supreme Court right now.
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Speaker 3: Let me move on to this.
39:02
Speaker 6: Three conservative Supreme Court justices are under investigation for ethics.
39:07
Speaker 6: They are attacking Clarence Thomas. Did Clarence Thomas do something wrong?
39:11
Speaker 3: No, you know what Justice Thomas did wrong.
39:14
Speaker 2: He's been one of the greatest Supreme Court justices ever
39:17
Speaker 2: to serve on the court. He has been a principled
39:19
Speaker 2: constitutionalist and the left despises him. Democrats hate Justice Thomas
39:25
Speaker 2: and they save a special degree of hate for him
39:27
Speaker 2: because he's a black man, and their view is an
39:30
Speaker 2: African American is not allowed to be a conservative, is
39:34
Speaker 2: not allowed to disagree with left wing orthodoxy. You know,
39:38
Speaker 2: Justice Antonin Scalia, whom I knew well, was every bit
39:42
Speaker 2: as conservative as Justice Thomas. The left didn't heap that
39:45
Speaker 2: kind of contempt on Justice Scalia. Justice Thomas they view
39:49
Speaker 2: as a traitor because he is African American and.
39:53
Speaker 3: He's an extraordinary justice. Disgusting.
39:56
Speaker 2: And listen the quote ethics complaints they're raising. Every single
40:01
Speaker 2: Supreme Court justice, all nine of them, take trips across
40:04
Speaker 2: the country, take trips internationally that are paid for by others.
40:09
Speaker 2: Many of the liberal icons, Ruth Bader Ginsburg took over
40:13
Speaker 2: one hundred trips, Steven Bryer took over one hundred trips.
40:16
Speaker 2: Sonya Sotomayor took over one hundred trips. And all of
40:20
Speaker 2: the media, all the Democrats who are attacking Justice Thomas,
40:23
Speaker 2: they don't care at all. They're not looking at any
40:25
Speaker 2: of the Democrat justices, They're not looking at any other judges.
40:28
Speaker 2: This is a political smear job directed at Clarence Thomas
40:32
Speaker 2: because he is an extraordinary constitutionalist.
40:36
Speaker 5: You're so concerned about this centator.
40:37
Speaker 1: We're going to actually do a special show on Wednesday
40:41
Speaker 1: just about how the left is now going after Supreme
40:44
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40:47
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40:49
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40:52
Speaker 1: come after you and get rid of you anytime we want.
40:55
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, And we're going to have a special
40:57
Speaker 2: guest on Wednesday, Mark Paoleetta, who is a very very
41:00
Speaker 2: close friend of Justice Thomas, who has been taking the
41:03
Speaker 2: lead and defending Justice Thomas from many of these unfair
41:07
Speaker 2: attacks and this targeting, and we're going to do a
41:09
Speaker 2: deep dive into the bogus claims that have been raised
41:13
Speaker 2: against him. And I think it's going to be a
41:14
Speaker 2: very informative discussion with markis he is very capable of
41:18
Speaker 2: very knowledgeable, and it will give give listeners everything you
41:22
Speaker 2: need to know to understand why these claims that this
41:27
Speaker 2: is a selective and political smear job, and it's a
41:33
Speaker 2: double standard that's being applied.
41:36
Speaker 1: You're looking at just how we used to treat the
41:38
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I'm talking about democrats specifically compared to now
41:42
Speaker 1: Cender the fact that they have been able to harass
41:44
Speaker 1: them at their houses, protest their houses, even put their
41:48
Speaker 1: lives and their families' lives in danger. Have this league
41:51
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41:54
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41:57
Speaker 1: Democrats are in favor of that.
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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right.
42:03
Speaker 2: Not only they are in favor of it, they are
42:04
Speaker 2: driving it forward. They are leading the effort to tear
42:08
Speaker 2: down the legitimacy of the Court because they cannot stand
42:14
Speaker 2: that there are now principled constitutionalists on the Court who
42:19
Speaker 2: are upholding the rights protected in the Bill of Rights
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