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‘Damning’ science shows COVID-19 likely engineered in lab: experts say · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: We have got two major stories that I have to
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Speaker 1: deal with. Number One, you have Facebook and Twitter that
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Speaker 1: are now going after Donald Trump again, and now they're
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Speaker 1: browbeating the companies, and they're angry at the company's for
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Speaker 1: even thinking about letting Donald Trump back on their platforms,
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Speaker 1: even though they've just extended their bands on Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: saying you should let this be a band forever. Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's not going to change. He's a liar. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to have that for you in just a moment. But
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Speaker 1: before we get to that, there is more fallout from
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Speaker 1: doctor Fauci's emails. Now, a Stanford epidemiologist says Fauci's credibility
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Speaker 1: is entirely shot. Now. Faucci has come under fire since
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Speaker 1: these emails from twenty twenty were released, and this epidemiologist
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Speaker 1: and professor at Stanford University said the doctor Fauci's credibility
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Speaker 1: is gone after revelations from his emails show a reversal
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Speaker 1: on this subject, not only of mask wearing to prevent
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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, but also talking in private and warning people
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Speaker 1: privately that the Wuhan lab is probably where COVID came from,
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Speaker 1: while saying the complete opposite on TV while Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: was president. Now Laura Ingram has what she refers to
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Speaker 1: as her medicine cabinet. It is some of the smartest
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Speaker 1: professors infectious disease doctors, including this epidemiologists from Stanford University
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Speaker 1: on her show to talk exactly about this. Now, this
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Speaker 1: professor of medicine at Stanford said that at this point,
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Speaker 1: it is impossible for the nation to trust Fauci. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen. Over a year, it's hard to believe it.
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Speaker 1: The Ingram angle medicine cabinet, made up of some of
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Speaker 1: the smartest scientific minds in the country, has provided invaluable
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Speaker 1: insights into the COVID pandemic, often challenging the directives and
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Speaker 1: assumptions may by none other than doctor Fauci himself. I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about masks, social distancing, the wisdom of vaccinating kids,
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Speaker 1: the preventative treatments that we were talking about. But it
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Speaker 1: wasn't until this week, with the release of thousands of
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Speaker 1: doctor Fauci emails, that others started to catch on to
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Speaker 1: what we've been warning about all along, namely how dangerous
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Speaker 1: it is to give one unelected official so much power
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Speaker 1: over US policy during a crisis. Let's bring in some
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Speaker 1: of those aforementioned members of our medicine cabinet, doctor J. Baracharya,
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Speaker 1: Stanford University Professor of Medicine, Harvey Risch, Ile School of
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Speaker 1: Public Health Epidemiology Professor, and doctor Peter McCullough, internist and cardiologist. Gentlemen,
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Speaker 1: let's start at first with doctor Risch, because you say
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Speaker 1: that the lies and deceit revealed in these emails can
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Speaker 1: be essentially extrapolated to the doctor's rejection of the drug
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Speaker 1: hydroxychlorin How costly could that smearing of that drug have
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Speaker 1: been to us? Well, we know that the problems that
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Speaker 1: were pointed out to as reasons not to use hydroxychloroquine,
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Speaker 1: we're all fraudulent from the beginning of the campaign against it.
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Speaker 1: And the point that I'm making in this is that
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Speaker 1: if there's reason not to trust doctor Fauci for the
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Speaker 1: things that he said on lots of other reasons, then
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Speaker 1: that's reasons to take what he said about hydroxy chloroquine
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Speaker 1: in there in the context not seriously, because it's part
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Speaker 1: and parcel of the campaign to delegitimize it in the
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Speaker 1: first place. Hydroxychloroquine used with zinc, vitamin D antibiotics aspirin
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Speaker 1: or other medications in a regiment, as doctor McCollough has outlined,
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Speaker 1: is good for prevention of bad outcomes in COVID on
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Speaker 1: the order of at least three quarters to seventy five
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Speaker 1: or better. So we know that we're talking about four
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Speaker 1: hundred fifty five hundred thousand lives that were lost unnecessarily.
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Speaker 1: So to be very clear, what this doctor is saying
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Speaker 1: to the country is because Donald Trump touted hydroxy cord quinn,
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Speaker 1: because he actually took it himself and many other doctors
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Speaker 1: were prescribing it, and then states that knew nothing about
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Speaker 1: it started banning you from writing this prescription all because
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump was talking about it. It could have cost
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Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty two four hundred thousand plus lives
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Speaker 1: people that died because the media and because doctor Fouci
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Speaker 1: decided arbitrarily, not based in medicine, not based on science,
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Speaker 1: that they were going to go against Donald Trump and
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Speaker 1: what Donald Trump had said. Remember, Donald Trump is not
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Speaker 1: allowed to talk about a drug. There were people that
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Speaker 1: actually refused to take hydroxy quarter quim because Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: talked about it, which is psycho Then States came in
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Speaker 1: and said you can't prescribe this drug, which is also
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Speaker 1: psycho And what this doctor has said is because of
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Speaker 1: all of this, and because doctor Fauci didn't talk about
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Speaker 1: the actual medical science behind using hydroxy quarter quim and
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Speaker 1: the positive reactions from it, I would argue because clearly
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Speaker 1: he hates Donald Trump as well. And you've seen that
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Speaker 1: since Donald Trump's left office, he wanted to undermine Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Before the election, he didn't want to work with him anymore.
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Speaker 1: He certainly didn't want Donald Trump to be right that
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Speaker 1: people died because of all this. Now they're not done.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to what else they had to say
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Speaker 1: about why this country not only cannot trust doctor Fauci,
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Speaker 1: but also how many people died because of his decisions,
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Speaker 1: show trade hundreds of patients, worked in collaboration with others,
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Speaker 1: just published his data showing that at high doses, not
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Speaker 1: the meager do, but high doses of hydroxy with zithromycin
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Speaker 1: absolutely prevented a serious illness and the percentage was phenomenally high.
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Speaker 1: And this is another renowned physician treating COVID patients well,
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Speaker 1: doctor Baracharia. One of Fauci's emails revealed his hypocrisy on
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Speaker 1: the mask issue. But here's how he spun it. You
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Speaker 1: modify and adjust your opinion. We knew back then that
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Speaker 1: a substantial amount of transmission was asymptomatic people. If we
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Speaker 1: knew then that the data show that masks outside of
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Speaker 1: a hospital setting are actually do work when we didn't
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Speaker 1: know it, then of course people would have done that.
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Speaker 1: That's so obvious. Okay, Now I'm not a medical doctor,
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Speaker 1: but that didn't make sense doctor Bodicharia. He says he
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Speaker 1: changes his mind when the facts change. But did the
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Speaker 1: facts actually change on the kind of mask you buy
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Speaker 1: in the store and COVID nineteen if you're an asymptomatic person, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it really didn't change a ton. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: it's he's been all over the place on masks. There's
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Speaker 1: some emails you can find in the treasure of emails
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Speaker 1: have been released where he acknowledges that the virus is airsolized. Well,
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Speaker 1: the cloth masks that that people have been recommending, they're
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Speaker 1: not very particularly effective against aerosolized viruses. I don't really
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Speaker 1: understand his back and forth in his answer made absolutely
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Speaker 1: no sense. Yeah, you should change your mind when the
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Speaker 1: science changes, but what is that science? The change that
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Speaker 1: convinced him that masks are the most effective way. In fact,
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Speaker 1: like the remember the CDC director Robert Redfield said the
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Speaker 1: masks were more effective than vaccines, and doctor Fauci did
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Speaker 1: not contradict him when when doctor Scott Outlas said that
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Speaker 1: that that was nonsense, which it was. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: think it's it's just I think his credibility is entirely
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Speaker 1: shot now. And doctor mccallo, he's also chastising states that
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Speaker 1: haven't met his self determined vaccine goals. Watch, if you
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Speaker 1: have a very high percentage of people vaccinated, you're not
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Speaker 1: going to see a substantial bliit. What my concern is
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Speaker 1: is in those states in which you have relatively few
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Speaker 1: compared to others, people vaccinated. When you're below fifty percent
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Speaker 1: of the people being vaccinated, that's when you're going to
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Speaker 1: have a problem. Doctor McCullough. Now he's still essentially denying
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Speaker 1: the reality of naturally acquired immunity, not factoring any of
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Speaker 1: that in and the possibility, as I think one or
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Speaker 1: two of you might have said months ago, that we
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Speaker 1: are very close to or perhaps in some parts of
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Speaker 1: the country already have heard immunity. Correct but correct. I
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Speaker 1: testified in the Texas Senate on March tenth, that we
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Speaker 1: are already at eighty percent HERD immunity. I use standard
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Speaker 1: CDC equations, and what we know is that patients who
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Speaker 1: seek vaccination that they have a less than one percent
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Speaker 1: chance of coming in contact with COVID nineteen, even if
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Speaker 1: they got placebo. We knew that from the registrational trials,
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Speaker 1: and that was back when the ambient density of the
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Speaker 1: virus in the community is much higher. So it's impossible
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Speaker 1: for the vaccine to make an impact on the epidemic curves.
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Speaker 1: So if you listen to these two doctors, and they're doctors,
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Speaker 1: doctors that know this stuff, what they're saying in synopsis is,
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Speaker 1: not only was doctor fouc you wrong, Doctor Founci's wrong
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Speaker 1: a lot. And not only was he overstating the importance
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Speaker 1: of mass he also was overstating his knowledge on certain
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Speaker 1: things like hydroxy chloroquim just to undermine the President of
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Speaker 1: the United States of America. That's what you need to
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Speaker 1: know about the expert, doctor Faucci, and doctor Faucci was
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Speaker 1: telling the truth apparently an emails while lying to the public.
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Speaker 1: Let me remind you about Donald Trump and what Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump was doing the entire time that Faucci and these
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Speaker 1: others were undermining him. He was pushing Operation Work Speed
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Speaker 1: to save lives. He was pushing for the vaccine that
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Speaker 1: people say they weren't going to take because Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: was the one spearheading it. That now Joe Biden takes
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Speaker 1: credit for Operation Work Speed was created by Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Look at the new attacks now that the media is doing.
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Speaker 1: They're saying, well, it's it's white men that are the
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Speaker 1: threat to this country because they're refusing to it a vaccine.
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Speaker 1: They're trying to kill you. Donald Trump supporters aren't getting
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Speaker 1: the vaccine. It's the biggest lot of crap. Ever. Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's the guy that gave us the vaccine. We're not
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Speaker 1: anti vaxxers. Now do we ask questions? Yes? Are we
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Speaker 1: blind sheep? No? Are we stupid? No? So. On Saturday
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Speaker 1: in North Carolina, former President Well Trump had this to say,
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Speaker 1: not only about the communist Chinese regime he believes they
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Speaker 1: should pay trillions of dollars in reparations, but he also
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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about Fauci. Take a listen. Fauci has
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Speaker 1: perhaps never been more wrong than when he denied the
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Speaker 1: virus and where it came from. The time has come
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Speaker 1: for America and the world to demand reparations and accountability
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Speaker 1: from the Communist Party of China. We should all declare,
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Speaker 1: within one unified voice, that China must pay. They must pay.
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Speaker 1: The United States should immediately take steps to phase in
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Speaker 1: a firm one hundred tariff on all goods made in Jenny.
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Speaker 1: In addition, in all nations should work together to present
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Speaker 1: China bill for a minimum of ten trillion dollars to
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Speaker 1: compensate for the damage. Of course, and that's a very
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Speaker 1: low number. The damage is far far greater than that.
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Speaker 1: As a first step of all countries should collectively cancel
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Speaker 1: any debt they owe to China as a down payment
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Speaker 1: on reparations. The nations of the world should no longer
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Speaker 1: owe money to China. China has destroyed so many nations.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we came out better than anybody. Our economy
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Speaker 1: is stronger now than any other nation. Nobody's recovered like
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Speaker 1: us because of what we've done, because we laid a
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Speaker 1: great economic foundation, and because of what we've done with
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Speaker 1: the vaccine, and also what we've done with the distribution
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Speaker 1: the distribution of the vaccine. But China should owe money
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Speaker 1: to the nations of the world. They've been destroyed. These
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Speaker 1: nations have been destroyed. Sadly, the current administration is very
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Speaker 1: timid and frankly corrupt when you look at all of
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Speaker 1: the money that they've been given as a family by China.
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Speaker 1: That instead of holding China accountable, the Biden administration shut
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Speaker 1: down the US government's investigation into the origins of the
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Speaker 1: virus shortly after taking office. What's going on now again?
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is making the point here that why is
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Speaker 1: not only Fauci but this administration protecting and defending China
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Speaker 1: when China clearly lied to the world, allowed this to
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Speaker 1: get out, did not actually warn the world the way
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Speaker 1: they should have. And this damning science shows COVID nineteen
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Speaker 1: likely was engineered in a lab, which is now what
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Speaker 1: the experts are saying. Let me just give you the
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Speaker 1: new headline here from the New York Post. Damning science
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Speaker 1: strongly suggests that COVID nineteen is in fact a man
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Speaker 1: made monster optimize and a lab for maximum infection before
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Speaker 1: hitting the outside to the catastrophic effects which we have seen.
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Speaker 1: Two experts have confirmed this on Sunday, writing an opinion
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Speaker 1: piece through Wall Street Journal doctor Stephen Quay and Richard
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Speaker 1: Mueller pointed to two key pieces of evidence to support
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Speaker 1: the claim, which has increasingly game steamed after long being
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Speaker 1: deriveded as a little more than speculation. Conspiracy theory. Right,
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Speaker 1: it was all about a conspiracy theory. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory. And we won't let you post online
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Speaker 1: if you ask any questions about the origin of COVID nineteen,
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Speaker 1: if you believe that it didn't come from wet markets
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Speaker 1: and bats, we will shut you down. You're not allowed
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Speaker 1: to put that on social media. The media called it
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Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory. They said it was a debunked conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 1: That's their words, that's what they called it. Now we
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Speaker 1: have more and more evidence from more and more doctors
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Speaker 1: who are coming out going just kidding, are bad, just kidding,
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Speaker 1: we got it wrong. But they're not saying they got
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Speaker 1: it wrong. Right. They're not saying that Donald Trump was
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Speaker 1: right way early on to say he was not convinced
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Speaker 1: it came from a wet market. Back to these scientists
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Speaker 1: for a second. Writing in the opinion piece for the Journal,
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Speaker 1: they point out that these evidence, the first piece relates
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Speaker 1: to the nature of gain, a function research in which
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Speaker 1: microbiologists tweak a virus to alter its properties, such as
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Speaker 1: making it more transmissible or more lethal. Of the thirty
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Speaker 1: six possible pairings that can produce two amino acids in
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Speaker 1: a row which result in boosting a virus leathally, the
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Speaker 1: one most commonly used in gain A function research is
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Speaker 1: CGG or CGG or double CGG. That's where the two
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Speaker 1: men wrote in the journal the insertion sequence of choice
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Speaker 1: is the double CGG. The founder of the company that
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Speaker 1: does therapeutics and mule are a former top scientist at
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Speaker 1: the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory who now teaches physics of
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Speaker 1: the University of California, Berkeley campus. They say that's because
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Speaker 1: it is readily available and convenient, and scientists have a
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Speaker 1: great deal of experience inserting it. An additional advantage of
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Speaker 1: the double CGG sequence compared to the other thirty five
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Speaker 1: possible choices, it creates a useful beacon that permits the
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Speaker 1: scientists attract the insertion in the laboratory. The pair noted
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Speaker 1: that the double CGG sequence has never been found naturally
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Speaker 1: among the entire group of coronaviruses that include cocov DASH two,
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Speaker 1: which is what causes COVID nineteen, but in what Cuammuller
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Speaker 1: called a damning fact, it was in fact found in
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Speaker 1: COVID two CoV DASH two. Proponents of zoonotics origin must
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Speaker 1: explain why the Norvelle coronavirus, when it mutated or recombined,
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Speaker 1: happened to pick its least favorite combination of double CGG.
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Speaker 1: They wrote, why did it replicate the choice the labs
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Speaker 1: gain of function researchers would have made. In other words,
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Speaker 1: they're saying this is man made at the minimum, This
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Speaker 1: fact that the coronavirus, with all of its random possibilities,
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Speaker 1: took the rare and unnatural combination used by human researchers
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Speaker 1: implies that the leading theory for the origin the coronavirus
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Speaker 1: must be laboratory it's escape. Well wait, hold on, I
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Speaker 1: thought anyone that believed this didn't come from a wet
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Speaker 1: market was a conspiracy theorist. I thought we were all crazy.
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Speaker 1: What happened here? I'm curious, right? What actually what happened here?
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Speaker 1: When did this change? Someone? Tell me? Because the media
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Speaker 1: told us that if we believed this came out of
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Speaker 1: a lab, would be shut down, silenced, and you were crazy.
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Speaker 1: That's what they said, that's what they told us. Now,
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Speaker 1: recent really revealed emails from doctor Fauci, the nation's leading
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Speaker 1: infects these expert quote unquote, show that not only was
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Speaker 1: he not convinced that it came from a wet market,
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Speaker 1: but he actually warned as early as January twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: that the virus may have been engineered, but he wouldn't
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Speaker 1: say it in public because that would back up Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: In a Senate hearing last month, Fauci admitted that he
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Speaker 1: couldn't be certain that the Wu Hunt Institute of Virology
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Speaker 1: in China, the nation from which COVID nineteen sprang in
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Speaker 1: late twenty nineteen, didn't put a pre pandemic. Six hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars grant from the National Institute of Health are
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Speaker 1: dollars towards game of function research stated purpose. He said
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Speaker 1: the grant was not for that, but it could have happened.
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Speaker 1: So you've got a guy that's looking out for China's
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Speaker 1: best interests, You've got a media that's looking out for
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Speaker 1: China's best interests. You have a doctor that attacked anyone
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Speaker 1: that told him anything different than what the Chinese communist
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Speaker 1: propaganda wanted out there, and a media that said, we
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Speaker 1: can't have Donald Trump be right on whether it is
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Speaker 1: hydroxy chlora klim or on this issue of it coming
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Speaker 1: from a lab being man made. You think any of
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Speaker 1: them are going to apologize, of course not. My question
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Speaker 1: for the media now is how many people died because
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Speaker 1: of the lies from doctor Fauci. We now been told
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Speaker 1: from scientists who are coming out saying he was so
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Speaker 1: wrong and he protected the China's commermist government. We don't
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Speaker 1: know exactly why, but this damning science shows COVID nineteen
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Speaker 1: likely engineered in a lab. How many people die because
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Speaker 1: doctor Fauci got it so wrong? How many people died
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Speaker 1: because he wouldn't say that hydroxy chloroquim was not a
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Speaker 1: bad thing but a good thing. How many people die
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Speaker 1: because the leftists in different states it said no to
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Speaker 1: hydroxychloroquin for the only reason that Donald Trump was in
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Speaker 1: favor of it. And if you don't think the media
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Speaker 1: did everything it could to undermine the President United's America
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Speaker 1: and anyone else that even mentioned the spreading and the
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Speaker 1: leaking of this Chinese lab, then let me remind you
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Speaker 1: what the media was saying. Center Tom Cotton came out,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump came out. They were both saying it. Several
20:35
Speaker 1: others came out, and what were they saying. They were
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Speaker 1: saying that the Wuhan lab is where we need to
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Speaker 1: be looking. Stop believing the Chinese Communist government when they
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Speaker 1: tell you this came from a wet market. We need
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Speaker 1: to look at the other explanations which were now finding
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Speaker 1: out they were right, the media was wrong. So what
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Speaker 1: the media do? Here's the montage. The best evidence suggests
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Speaker 1: that the kind of bat from which this virus jumped
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Speaker 1: to humans wasn't even present there. You know. The worst
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Speaker 1: of all, whether it came from the lab, well came
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Speaker 1: from the bats. So it all came from China. Because
21:05
Speaker 1: we don't know where the novel coronavirus came from. Yet
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Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories filled a void. I'm telling you, the
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Speaker 1: Chicaans are trying to weaponize this thing. Conservative talk show
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Speaker 1: host Rush Limbaugh with zero proof, suggesting a Chinese bioweapon
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Speaker 1: lab is to blame. It's this question about the Wuhan lab.
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Speaker 1: We know that it's been debunked. Those same agencies now
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Speaker 1: have been tapped with investigating one of Trump World's most
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Speaker 1: favorite conspiracy theories. This week, Donald Trump is still pushing
21:31
Speaker 1: the debunked bunkum despite his own intelligence community's findings that
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Speaker 1: that is simply not true and there is simply no
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Speaker 1: reason to believe that that is the case. There is
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Speaker 1: no impirical evidence to verify that. Coming up with a
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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory to try and man xenophobia with respect to
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Speaker 1: the Chinese has just as much factual support as taking claros.
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Speaker 1: He can't just sit back and let the doctors and
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Speaker 1: the scientists do their jobs. He's got to China. He
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Speaker 1: may pick up the conspiracy theory that this was some weapon.
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Speaker 1: People don't keep bats complete blow. We don't need to
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Speaker 1: invoke conspiracy theories. This is just another example of the
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Speaker 1: president trying to change the narrative from his own failings.
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Speaker 1: The problem for President Trump is that he's running for reelection,
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Speaker 1: is looking for ways to deflect blame for the performance
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Speaker 1: or the administration. If you look at the evolution of
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Speaker 1: the virus in bats and what's out there now, it's
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Speaker 1: very very strongly leaning towards this could not have been
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Speaker 1: artificially or deliberately manipulated. So I wanted to ask, are
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Speaker 1: you still confident that it developed naturally? No? Actually, that's
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Speaker 1: the point that I said, no, I'm not convinced about that.
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Speaker 1: I think that we should continue to investigate what went
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Speaker 1: on in China. It's amazing how long they kept us lie,
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Speaker 1: how long they silence anyone that asks questions, how long
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Speaker 1: they have continued to hold the line for the Chinese
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Speaker 1: communist propaganda and their government, and how many people have
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Speaker 1: died because of their propaganda they've been pushing, and no
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Speaker 1: one in the media's point the fingers saying, Hey, a
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Speaker 1: lot of people die because of what doctor Fauci said.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people died because of what democrats said.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people died because of our government's refusal
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Speaker 1: to admit the obvious. So now what do you do, well,
23:33
Speaker 1: you just keep silencing conservative voices that start bringing these
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Speaker 1: things up. Let me give you a great example. Seeing
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Speaker 1: an anchor Chinese Communists News Network CNN said on his
23:46
Speaker 1: show The Lead that former President Donald Trump's lies are
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Speaker 1: actually getting worse, Yeah, getting worse, and that Trump's two
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Speaker 1: year Facebook ban should be longer than that. Facebook is acknowledging.
24:02
Speaker 1: Tapper said that Trump used its platform for harm. He
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Speaker 1: incided now the Deadly Insurrection On January sixth, Trump continue
24:12
Speaker 1: to spread lies and prompted death threats. Why give him
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Speaker 1: a platform at all? Because when you get busted doing
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Speaker 1: what they just did, and I just played you that montage,
24:22
Speaker 1: indisputable evidence that the media willfully put out communist Chinese
24:27
Speaker 1: propaganda just to get Trump out of office. Just to
24:33
Speaker 1: get him out of office. That's the only reason why
24:37
Speaker 1: they did it. And they're now saying, we gotta keep
24:40
Speaker 1: rid of we gotta keep Trump out of office again.
24:43
Speaker 1: We gotta silence him, and we got to silence anyone
24:45
Speaker 1: else around him. We got to shut them down, folks,
24:49
Speaker 1: No matter what, We've got to shut him down. So
24:53
Speaker 1: Jake Tapper has on a Facebook executive right and starts
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Speaker 1: proud beating him. I'll hold on a second. You you're
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Speaker 1: just gonna ban him for two years. You shouldn't just
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Speaker 1: ban him for two years. You should ban him forever
25:04
Speaker 1: because you know he's a liar. Because if we can
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Speaker 1: silence Trump, and we can signce silence every other conservative,
25:12
Speaker 1: and we can make sure they don't have a platform
25:13
Speaker 1: to fight back against our propaganda, just like we have
25:16
Speaker 1: done against Donald Trump, just like we did against his vaccine,
25:19
Speaker 1: just like we did against operational warp speed just like
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Speaker 1: we did when we said that it had to come
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Speaker 1: from a wet market. There's no way it could have
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Speaker 1: come from the Wuhan Lab, and it couldn't have come
25:28
Speaker 1: from getting a function research. And it couldn't have come
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Speaker 1: from American tax hours six hundred thousand that went to
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Speaker 1: the Wuhan Lab. If we can silence all of those
25:37
Speaker 1: people that speak truth to power, facts to fiction, then
25:45
Speaker 1: we can keep dismantling this country. So that's why now
25:51
Speaker 1: they just use this as a distraction. Hey, Donald Trump,
25:54
Speaker 1: he can't he can't have a voice. Again, he's a liar.
25:57
Speaker 1: We've declared he's a liar. Even though he was telling
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Speaker 1: the truth on the hydrox core equipment could have saved
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Speaker 1: four hundred thousand lives. He was telling the truth when
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Speaker 1: he said he believed that he wasn't sure that China
26:05
Speaker 1: was telling the truth on the Wuhan lab. Oh no,
26:10
Speaker 1: but remember Chinese Communist News Network CNN. Yeah, don't carry,
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Speaker 1: don't carry. Wait for the Chinese, don't worry, and they'll
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Speaker 1: tell Facebook they better ban him forever. Turning to our
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Speaker 1: tech lead. Now, Facebook just this afternoon decided the former
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Speaker 1: President Trump will be banned from the world's biggest social
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Speaker 1: media platform for at least two more years. In response
26:30
Speaker 1: to the Independent Oversight Board's ruling, his case will be revisited.
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Speaker 1: Facebook says in January twenty twenty three that, of course
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Speaker 1: will be right as the twenty twenty four presidential election
26:39
Speaker 1: is beginning to heat up. Let's get right to Nick Clegg.
26:42
Speaker 1: He's the vice president of Global Affairs and Communications at Facebook. Nick,
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Speaker 1: First of all, thanks for joining us. So Facebook is
26:48
Speaker 1: acknowledging that Trump used its platform for harm. He incited
26:53
Speaker 1: the deadly insurrection, Trump continues to spread lies that prompt
26:58
Speaker 1: death threats. Why give him your platform? And all? Well,
27:04
Speaker 1: that's a legitimate question. Some people think that Donald Trump
27:08
Speaker 1: should be able to use Facebook immediately again, and others
27:12
Speaker 1: think he should never be able to use it at all.
27:14
Speaker 1: And as you know, social media companies have responded in
27:17
Speaker 1: somewhat different ways. Twitter have banned him permanently for life
27:21
Speaker 1: perspective of future behavior. Google have said he will come
27:24
Speaker 1: back on YouTube when the conditions allow. And in a sense,
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Speaker 1: what we've done in response to the comments we receive
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Speaker 1: from the Independent Oversight Board is to stipulate what penalty
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Speaker 1: we think should be applied to match the gravity of
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Speaker 1: what happened in January, and we're applying the most severe
27:41
Speaker 1: penalty that we have in the range of penalties now
27:44
Speaker 1: available to us under the new enforcement arrangements that we
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Speaker 1: published today. And we've also said very clearly that if
27:51
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and need anybody else in this position were
27:54
Speaker 1: to seek to repeat those violations again once back on
27:58
Speaker 1: that we would then apply very swiftly new sanctions up
28:01
Speaker 1: to and including a permanent removal. And of course, you know,
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Speaker 1: when it comes to the point in early twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: three when he's entitled to come back onto a Facebook,
28:11
Speaker 1: we'll obviously only do so if the conditions in terms
28:14
Speaker 1: of public safety, public order, and so on are more
28:17
Speaker 1: in place. So we feel we put in the right
28:20
Speaker 1: guardrails in place. We hope we've applied a sanction which
28:22
Speaker 1: we think is proportionate. Totally accept that some people will always,
28:25
Speaker 1: as ever say it doesn't go too far, or it
28:28
Speaker 1: goes too far, but we have done it in a
28:31
Speaker 1: way that is transparent and proportionate. Hold on, no, that's
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Speaker 1: not enough, right, because you've got to ban him forever.
28:36
Speaker 1: And that's the point Jake Tapper is going to make.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have for the Chinese communist government. So I guess, Nick,
28:43
Speaker 1: I do you if today, just today, Donald Trump is
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Speaker 1: telling election lies today? No, you know, back in January,
28:53
Speaker 1: today he's doing it. So I guess my question is,
28:58
Speaker 1: isn't the definition of insanity the same thing over and
29:00
Speaker 1: over again and expecting a different result. I mean, you
29:03
Speaker 1: know that when he returns, he's going to use his
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Speaker 1: platform to tell lies, lies that if provably incited violence,
29:13
Speaker 1: not just violence, but an attack on the capitol and
29:16
Speaker 1: some considered an attack on democracy. What kind of clues
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Speaker 1: are you looking for? I mean, there's no indication that
29:22
Speaker 1: she's getting any better. His lies are getting worse. He
29:25
Speaker 1: thinks he's going to be reinstated as president in August.
29:29
Speaker 1: I love this slandering here by CNN, the Chinese Communist
29:34
Speaker 1: News network, telling you, you know, he's sick in the head,
29:38
Speaker 1: you know he's demented, you know he's deranged, he can't
29:41
Speaker 1: have a voice. You need to ban this person for
29:44
Speaker 1: eber he's a liar. We demand it, We demand it
29:50
Speaker 1: as a news organization that Donald Trump, the former president
29:55
Speaker 1: It's America, never be allowed on social media ever again,
29:57
Speaker 1: so that we can continue to control the narrative and
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Speaker 1: what we want you to say or believe. We are
30:06
Speaker 1: the ones that get decide what you are told. We
30:10
Speaker 1: are the ones to get to decide what is truthful.
30:12
Speaker 1: We are the ones to get to decide what propaganda
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Speaker 1: from the Chinese Communist government we want to push. And
30:17
Speaker 1: we don't need people like Donald Trump out there undermining us.
30:23
Speaker 1: This is how hard they're willing to fight to shut
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Speaker 1: each and every one of us up. This is how
30:34
Speaker 1: much propaganda they're willing to push to get us to
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Speaker 1: be quiet. And I'll leave it at that. I want
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