Latest / Catholic Spirit Radio / Good News 050226: Emmaus Days: Seminarians, Sports, and a Call to Manhood
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- 0:00Welcome to Good News on Catholic Spirit Radio, a program for teens and almost
- 0:04teens to better understand that the gospel of Jesus Christ is relevant in their
- 0:09lives, and it's a place where your questions about faith and religion can be answered.
- 0:14And now, here's your host, Deacon Al.
- 0:17Good evening, and welcome to Good News. I am Deacon Al Lundy,
- 0:21permanent deacon in the Peoria Diocese, speaking with you on Catholic Spirit Radio.
- 0:26Happy to have you with us once again. We're here every Saturday and Sunday evenings from 8 to 8.30.
- 0:32Normally on Good News, I'll spend the first half talking about things going
- 0:36on in the church or going on in my life and how that relates to the church.
- 0:40And then in the second half, we talk about the readings from the Mass,
- 0:43the good news of Jesus Christ and how that affects us in our everyday lives.
- 0:48But today, we're going to do a little different.
- 0:51I have an in-studio guest, which we don't have very often, but very happy to
- 0:55have one of the seminarians from the Peoria Diocese. This is Jared Raber.
- 1:00Hello, Jared. Hey, Deacon. Thanks for having me. Good to have you with us. Yeah.
- 1:04Jared's from Coal Valley by ways of Moline, right? So a Western state.
- 1:10Okay, good to have you with us. You're here to talk about Emmaus Days.
- 1:15And for those who haven't heard about it, this is a series of weekend,
- 1:19I wouldn't say workshop, more of a retreat, right?
- 1:23Yeah, I'd say retreat is a good way to sum it up, yeah.
- 1:25For all kinds of ages, starting at 7th grade all the way up to college,
- 1:29broken into different categories.
- 1:31So tell us about Emmaus Days. What's the heart of it? Yeah, thanks for asking.
- 1:37The heart of Emmaus days is really the Emmaus story. That's why we call it Emmaus days.
- 1:43So we begin every retreat actually with reading from the Gospel of Luke,
- 1:49the story of Jesus walking with the disciples on the road to Emmaus.
- 1:53He comes and stands in their midst. He breaks open the scriptures to them. He walks with them.
- 1:59Ultimately, it culminates in the Eucharist. He opens their eyes and they see
- 2:03the risen Lord and they are moved to run back to Jerusalem.
- 2:08They started out downcast and they end on fire.
- 2:12And ultimately, that's the goal of Emmaus days.
- 2:16We keep it simple. We stick to the gospel. We just, yeah, we have mass and prayer
- 2:23and talks from the seminarians.
- 2:25And that's kind of the spiritual core of the retreat, rosary,
- 2:29sometimes liturgy, the hours.
- 2:32And yeah, our goal is really an encounter with Christ. I think alongside that, it's more than,
- 2:38There's also a very, very heavy emphasis on the fun, especially for the younger
- 2:42ages, especially seventh and eighth grade, ninth and 10th.
- 2:45Those are held at Great Oaks camp. So we're outside, we're in a pond,
- 2:50you know, there's a lot of- It's a ton of fun there.
- 2:51I've been out there a couple of times with my scouts and it's a blast.
- 2:55Yeah, it really is. It was actually our first year, last year being at the camp.
- 3:01So there was a lot of new things we had to learn, had to move schedules around
- 3:05and things like that. But it was awesome.
- 3:08Ton of fun tons of time for sports playing games capture the flag things like
- 3:13that yeah i think one of the things i love to tell the guys when i'm doing school
- 3:17visits is we split up all of the guys into small groups each small group is
- 3:24distinguished by a different colored bandana,
- 3:27and they just really they form this awesome camaraderie among themselves as
- 3:32as teammates And there's this healthy, I think, competitive spirit that runs
- 3:36through Emmaus days and they compete in games.
- 3:40There's the athletics games that for those guys that love sports, you know, to shine at.
- 3:45There's also, we had trivia last year for some of the guys who,
- 3:49you know, rely on the intellect, you know, and things like that.
- 3:53And they're skilled in that way. And there's scavenger hunts.
- 3:56And so there's a variety of activities and fun to really make it come alive
- 4:01for the guys. And we should point out that Emmaus Days is really a program for male youth. Yeah.
- 4:07And it's run by seminarians. Mm-hmm.
- 4:10Do you even have any priests out there, or is it all seminarians?
- 4:13Yeah, so Father Chase is— Okay.
- 4:15Father Chase Hulgenbrink is our—kind of the chaplain of it all.
- 4:19Sure. But yeah, a bulk of it is carried by the seminarians.
- 4:23Priests come out for confessions and maybe some talks here and there.
- 4:27Father Chase is an interesting story in itself.
- 4:30Those of you from the Peoria Diocese, you're going to be very familiar with
- 4:33Father Chase Hildenberg, but a lot of you from some of our surrounding diocese won't be.
- 4:38But Father Chase started as a soccer player. I mean, big time,
- 4:43big league soccer player.
- 4:45And while he was in Europe under contract, during his time off,
- 4:50he would go spend that time at monasteries and seminaries.
- 4:55And he really—,
- 4:57grew his way into his ordination, into his vocation as a priest.
- 5:03And it was so funny, I remember at his first Mass,
- 5:08I was present at his first Mass, and some young ladies were there when Father
- 5:14Chase comes up the aisle in his vestments, and the words behind me were being
- 5:19said was, oh, what a waste.
- 5:21He's not an unattractive young man, and to choose Christ over the life of a professional athlete.
- 5:30Really unique, but he's become quite a force in our diocese.
- 5:35And I think a lot of young men can attribute their growth in their vocation
- 5:43from their experience with meeting and hearing Father Chase.
- 5:47He's a wonderful homilist. Absolutely. Wonderful homilist.
- 5:50And so I'm glad to hear he's going to be out there with you.
- 5:54About how many other seminarians does it take to put the program on?
- 5:59Yeah, so it depends on the sessions. Like you said before, there's four sessions,
- 6:02and each one really has a different goal.
- 6:05They're split up by age groups. So, yeah, for session one, which is early June,
- 6:11it's for college and adult men.
- 6:12And that's a smaller-scale retreat, so there's only about 20 to 30 guys there.
- 6:18And so we have a handful of seminarians, probably about five of us.
- 6:21And then but then later in the summer in July mid-July where we're looking at
- 6:26all hands on deck right we have about 20 seminarians in the in the Peoria Diocese right now and so,
- 6:32for those those two sessions sessions three and four it's it's pretty much all of us maybe,
- 6:39There's a handful that aren't able to for different reasons.
- 6:41With the younger kids, the seventh grade through 10th grade,
- 6:44that's a lot of energy to keep up with. Oh, yeah.
- 6:45So you need a full-time job. Right. Yeah, it's going to be pretty busy.
- 6:50And you're really not looking to, I don't want to say recruit priests.
- 6:54What you're looking for is to form young men, right?
- 6:59To give them a sense of what does it really mean to be a man in this world,
- 7:04in this society, at this time.
- 7:06And it's a complicated life. Absolutely. Yeah, I think you put it well.
- 7:12And again, each session has a different goal, a different aim,
- 7:16different tactic, if you will.
- 7:18But one thread through it all is really that manhood.
- 7:22And a vocation, an authentic vocation, stems from that foundation,
- 7:27I think, of just really a prayer life and of just knowing oneself as a beloved
- 7:33son of the Father and of growing in basic virtues.
- 7:36And yeah, any authentic vocation will flow from men who know how to do that.
- 7:43And so, yeah, that really is our goal is to, as seminarians,
- 7:47share the fruits of our formation.
- 7:49And it's not just the talks, you know, it's not just the sacraments.
- 7:53I mean, I think the walking with, when Jesus walks with the disciples on the
- 7:57road, it really comes, it's in everything.
- 8:00It's in the meals that we have with the guys. It's in the games we play.
- 8:02It's in getting competitive. It's in showing them that we as seminarians love to have fun.
- 8:09Yeah, and it's important for them to see that where that,
- 8:13where that center, where that
- 8:15anchor comes from. You know, this isn't something that's purely natural.
- 8:20A lot of it, a lot of being a man in this world comes from understanding morals
- 8:27and virtues and the existence of the Holy Spirit.
- 8:32You know, through our baptism, we have God embedded in us, and yet we don't
- 8:38always look that closely.
- 8:40You know, we're wondering where is God in the troubled portions of our life,
- 8:43at least he's in us, he's part of us.
- 8:46And, and he wants us to realize that, but we don't often spend much time looking inward.
- 8:52Yeah. And I think to ask these, to ask these young men to, to take a weekend.
- 8:57And not only have some entertainment, learn a lot of really good lessons,
- 9:03have some great fellowship, but to understand their connection with Christ is
- 9:08really important. Absolutely.
- 9:10So, we've got four sessions. You're looking at your session one,
- 9:15the adults and college-age kids.
- 9:17That's early June, June 5th through the 7th. Yep. And that's in Peoria.
- 9:21It is. It's in West Peoria. It's actually at what we call the Emmaus House. So, it's with the theme.
- 9:27And that's kind of like the headquarters, if you will, for seminarians in our diocese.
- 9:31It's where it's recently been, I guess, taken over by Father Chase as a rectory
- 9:36and, but it's an old convent actually.
- 9:39And so it used to house, well, it started housing Roseminian fathers back in
- 9:43the day and then Pierce Tarts were there for a while.
- 9:45And then now it's, yeah, it's kind of a headquarters for seminarians and priests to use.
- 9:49And it's kind of the perfect size to host the
- 9:52number of guys we normally have and there's a chapel in the middle there
- 9:55there's a large field for going out and playing sports we
- 9:58hope this year in that session to incorporate Fulton
- 10:01Sheen who's on his way to the beatification right
- 10:05we're if it's in Peoria so we're close to the cathedral and yeah we do hope
- 10:10to make our way over there and good what better what better man to learn manhood
- 10:14from and to learn what it means to follow a vocation right you know excellent
- 10:19so yeah we're really excited. It's our first year being in the Emmaus house.
- 10:23So we're looking forward to that. Session two, juniors and seniors in high school,
- 10:28June 26th through the 29th at the U of I Newman Center.
- 10:31That's a great facility. It is. We're very blessed. That's just amazing there.
- 10:35Yeah. To have that opportunity. We've been there for a while.
- 10:38So yeah, it's great. Ton of fun. Great place to be.
- 10:42Yeah. Session three, ninth and 10th grade students.
- 10:46Again, this is all for young men to participate in July 12th through the 15th.
- 10:53That's at Great Oaks out in Lakin.
- 10:56And then session four, seventh and eighth graders also at Great Oaks,
- 11:00July 15th through the 17th.
- 11:03So, you know, parents and grandparents right now are looking to sign their kids
- 11:08up for camp, all right? They're going to go to sports camps.
- 11:12I have two nephews that go to computer camp every summer. You know,
- 11:15you're going to go to scout camp.
- 11:17Those are all great programs, great activities. But it would be great to take
- 11:21a weekend, send your son or your grandson to a weekend summer camp where they
- 11:29can have an encounter with Christ.
- 11:32And as the story of Emmaus tells us, you can't encounter Christ and not be changed.
- 11:38And it's always changed for the better.
- 11:40So, what a wonderful time to encounter Christ in your life for just a couple of days.
- 11:45And we just heard the walk to Emmaus in our gospel within the last two weeks at Mass.
- 11:51And so, you've probably heard different homilies as to what we learned from that gospel.
- 11:59One of the things I talked about, I was a homilist that weekend at my church,
- 12:03was the walk to Emmaus is really the story of the Mass.
- 12:07It parallels what happens in the course of a Mass.
- 12:11You encounter Christ, you learn about Christ, then you sit and have a meal with
- 12:17Christ, and then you go back.
- 12:18You don't keep running away. You go back into the secular world and take what
- 12:24you've learned and share it with others now.
- 12:26And that's what you can do with Emmaus Days. You can come and what you learned
- 12:29in this weekend, having fun with your friends and with the seminarians,
- 12:33take what you learned and take it back home and share it with someone else.
- 12:37So I think that's the real gift that comes from this. Is there a cost to Emmaus Days? There is.
- 12:44So on the website, if you just looked up Emmaus Days Peoria, you could find it.
- 12:49The cost this year is $200.
- 12:52But there's also options. Most parishes, ask your pastor first,
- 12:57I don't want to assume, but most parishes will cover either the full or half the cost for young men.
- 13:03So that's on the website as well. I know our parishes have always covered the cost.
- 13:08If a young man wanted to go of any age, wanted to attend Emmaus,
- 13:13we would cover that cost. Yeah, absolutely.
- 13:14If money was the problem, we'd make it work. Sure.
- 13:18That's wonderful. Well, I hope you have a great fun. I hope everyone who attends has great fun.
- 13:22We'll keep putting the word out on this because it is a tremendous program, and it's kind of unique.
- 13:28I don't know if every diocese has access to Emmaus Days or not,
- 13:33but it's been a program here through the Peoria Diocese for many years.
- 13:38So, happy to see that continue to go and continue to grow. And let's talk about your journey right now.
- 13:47You're a year away from your diaconate organization. Yeah, about a year and
- 13:51a half away from diaconate. Very good. Two years of priesthood. Yep.
- 13:54Very good. Well, I hope that goes well for you, Brother Deacon.
- 13:58And soon to be. So far, the journey is good. Yeah. You're smiling,
- 14:02so I'm guessing it's a good experience for you. Yep. A lot of reasons to smile.
- 14:05It's been incredible. I've been in seminary for four years.
- 14:08I did two years of college seminary in Winona, Minnesota, graduated from there,
- 14:13and then have been at Mondelein for two years. Very good.
- 14:16Yeah, currently, while I'm finishing up, my last day is just a day from today
- 14:21in Epiphany Parish in Normal, Illinois, and I've spent my whole semester here
- 14:27at Epiphany doing just internships.
- 14:30Honestly, it's truly an internship. I've just been shadowing the priests and
- 14:33getting involved in a little bit of everything.
- 14:36And it's been incredible. It's really solidified my desire to do this and say yes to this vocation.
- 14:43So, yeah, I'm very excited to keep going.
- 14:45Great respect for anyone who chooses the vocation of priesthood. What a great calling.
- 14:51Absolutely. What a great call. And thank you for being willing to listen to
- 14:54the call. It's a noisy world.
- 14:57We should have a lot more priests, but it's really hard. God speaks to us in
- 15:01whispers, and we live in a noisy world, and sometimes it's hard to hear that whisper.
- 15:05So to hear it and follow it, you deserve a lot of credit for that.
- 15:10And look forward to your service to our faith. Absolutely. Very good.
- 15:15Emmaus Days. Talk to your kids, talk to your grandsons about attending Emmaus Days.
- 15:21You can find out more about it by going to the website.
- 15:24Yeah, Catholic Diocese, or I guess you'd type it. Type in CDOP,
- 15:28CDOP.org, and then on there you can find Emmaus Days.
- 15:31You can also just type in Emmaus, E-M-M-A-U-S, Days, Peoria,
- 15:37and it'll pop up. Right. Yeah.
- 15:40Fill out the form, talk to your pastor. Yep. They'll be happy to help you with
- 15:46everything as you prepare for that, and hope to see you at Emmaus Days. Yep.
- 15:51Thank you very much, Jared. Best of luck to you, sir. Absolutely.
- 15:54God bless. Thank you, Deacon. God bless. Bye-bye. We'll be back with more good news right after this.
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- 16:23And welcome back to Good News. You're listening to Catholic Spirit Radio.
- 16:27I'm Deacon Al Lundy. I have Jared Raber in the studio with me.
- 16:31Jared is a seminarian with the Peoria Diocese, and we're about to go through
- 16:36the readings for the fifth Sunday of Easter.
- 16:39Our first reading is from the Acts of the Apostles. Our second reading is a
- 16:44letter from Peter, and then we go to the Gospel according to John.
- 16:49So, I'm going to bounce this back and forth between me and Jared.
- 16:54So, I'll start with the first reading from the Acts of the Apostles.
- 16:57As the number of disciples continued to grow, the Hellenists complained against
- 17:01the Hebrews because their widows were being neglected in the daily distribution.
- 17:06So, the twelve called together the community of the disciples and said,
- 17:10It's not right for us to neglect the Word of God to serve a table.
- 17:14Brothers, select from among you seven reputable men, filled with the Spirit
- 17:19and wisdom, whom we shall appoint to this task, whereas we shall devote ourselves
- 17:24to prayer and to the ministry of the Word.
- 17:26The proposal was accepted by the whole community.
- 17:29So they chose Stephen, a man filled with faith in the Holy Spirit,
- 17:33and Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicholas of Antioch, a convert to Judaism.
- 17:43They presented these men to the apostles who prayed and laid hands on them.
- 17:47The word of God continued to spread, and the number of the disciples in Jerusalem increased greatly.
- 17:53Even a great number of priests were becoming obedient to the faith.
- 17:58So before I move on to the second reading, touch bases on just a couple of quick things.
- 18:03One being that what we have here is the foundation of the diaconate.
- 18:07These are the first seven men to be ordained deacons by the Catholic Church.
- 18:14Stephen, as you might recall, is going to become the first martyr for his faith.
- 18:20And so, in fact, all of the deacons end up as martyrs.
- 18:25They all have really interesting stories. Phillips, one of the most interesting
- 18:29of all of them, I think, and Nicholas of Antioch.
- 18:33So, these are all great, great saints to look to in our faith as men of great
- 18:40virtue, as we talked about with Emmaus days.
- 18:43This is one of the things we try and teach young people through our faith, is the teaching,
- 18:49The glory of virtue, what comes
- 18:52out of virtue and following the gifts that the Holy Spirit gives you.
- 18:57Our second reading from Peter is kind of a continuation of the last two weeks.
- 19:01So, Jerry, do you want to take that, please? Yeah, let's do it.
- 19:04A reading from the first letter of St. Peter.
- 19:08Beloved, come to him, a living stone, rejected by human beings,
- 19:13but chosen and precious in the sight of God.
- 19:16And, like living stones, let yourselves be built into a spiritual house,
- 19:21to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
- 19:28For it says in Scripture, Behold, I am laying a stone in Zion,
- 19:34a cornerstone, chosen and precious, and whoever believes in it shall not be put to shame.
- 19:40Therefore its value is for you who have faith, but for those without faith.
- 19:45The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,
- 19:49a stone that will make people stumble, and a rock that will make them fall.
- 19:54They stumble by disobeying the word, as is their destiny.
- 19:58You are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people of his own,
- 20:04so that you may announce the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.
- 20:10And I think one of the beautiful parts of that letter is to realize who Peter is talking to.
- 20:17You have to remember, this is a new church, new people that come from all walks of life.
- 20:23Some were followers of Judaism, some were Greek. It's just...
- 20:30These are people who are new to this faith and trying to find their place in
- 20:34it. They knew what their place was in their old one.
- 20:37In their old faith, they were either worshipers or they served the priests or
- 20:42the Pharisees and the scribes. They were all servants.
- 20:46And now Peter is calling them all to a form of priesthood. And this is really new.
- 20:52They never considered themselves as priests before. But Christ changed everything.
- 20:58And now Peter is letting them know that you're no longer just called to serve the priesthood.
- 21:04You're called to be the priesthood.
- 21:07And so what does that mean to be a priest? But to evangelize,
- 21:11to call more people to Christ, to share what you've learned with others,
- 21:16and to let Christ live out his life through your life.
- 21:21And so Peter shares this with all of us. And so, this reading from this Sunday
- 21:26is reminding us all of our priesthood that we were baptized into,
- 21:32and our role as to—we're not just asked to come and worship on Sundays. That's not our role.
- 21:39Our role is to become more Christlike in our everyday lives so that we can draw
- 21:45others to Christ as well. We are the new priesthood.
- 21:50We're different than the ordained priesthood. but yet we are a priesthood in
- 21:55our own rites through our baptism.
- 21:58Our gospel today from John, some of you will probably recognize,
- 22:04has some lines here that are, if you've ever been to a Catholic funeral,
- 22:08you've probably heard this reading.
- 22:10Jesus said to his disciples, Do not let your hearts be troubled.
- 22:14You have faith in God, have faith also in me. In my Father's house there are many dwelling places.
- 22:20If there were not, would I have told you that I'm going to prepare a place for you?
- 22:26And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back again and take you
- 22:30to Myself, so that where I am, you also may be.
- 22:34Where I am going, you know the way.
- 22:37Thomas said to Him, Master, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?
- 22:42Jesus said to him, I am the way and the truth and the life.
- 22:49No one comes to the Father except through Me.
- 22:52If you know me, then you will also know my Father.
- 22:56From now on you do know him and have seen him.
- 23:03Philip said to him, Master, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.
- 23:08Jesus said to him, I have been with you for so long a time, and you still do not know me, Philip?
- 23:16Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, show us the Father?
- 23:22Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me?
- 23:25The words that I speak to you I do not speak on my own. The Father who dwells in me is doing His works.
- 23:33Believe me that I am the Father, and the Father is in me. Or else,
- 23:38believe because of the works themselves.
- 23:41Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes in me will do the works that I do,
- 23:46and will do greater ones than these, because I am going to the Father. The Gospel of the Lord,
- 23:53So, Jared, I'm going to put you on the spot. What have we learned from this?
- 23:58I'm in the Father, and the Father is in me.
- 24:00There are brothers and sisters in the Christian faith who see God and Jesus,
- 24:07not only as separate persons, but as separate beings.
- 24:13How many times does Jesus have to tell us, we're the same, I'm in him, he's in me, we're one?
- 24:21And that seems to come out pretty clearly in this. Yeah, Jesus is,
- 24:25he is very clear about his relationship to the Father. And yeah, I love these readings.
- 24:30I think the theme for me that has popped out is priesthood.
- 24:36It's very easy to see it in the second reading. But yeah, even in this gospel,
- 24:40like Jesus is talking about going to the Father.
- 24:43And when I think about priesthood, we're just talking about Emmaus days and
- 24:47then just the vocation of priesthood and ultimately it's about offering something
- 24:54and where does everything,
- 24:58where is everything offered to if not to the father right and that could be
- 25:03that's everything like that's all of creation that is our own lives that is
- 25:09the mass if you read if you listen to the prayers and the Mass,
- 25:12everything is directed to the Father, all the prayers.
- 25:16And Jesus, I mean, there's no priesthood without Jesus.
- 25:21There's no, humanity cannot make it to the Father.
- 25:26When Jesus says at the end of this gospel, you will do even greater things than
- 25:31I have, what do you think he's referring to?
- 25:34That's a good question. There's, yeah, a lot of things.
- 25:39You will do greater works than I, is a very humble statement from the lips of the Savior.
- 25:46He's giving us a share, I think. I think so too. In this priesthood. Yeah.
- 25:51And you see it even in the first reading. I love the early church and the freedom
- 25:57and the creativity they have.
- 25:59You see already they're working things out and there's no blueprint.
- 26:04There's no Jesus didn't sit down. Well, maybe he did, but we don't have a record
- 26:08of him saying, all right, guys, there's going to be three orders to this,
- 26:11you know, holy orders thing and you're going to have deacons and all this stuff.
- 26:15And no, he sent them out on mission.
- 26:18He trusted them to make decisions through the Holy Spirit.
- 26:23And there they are doing it. And yeah, they're letting the Spirit really allow
- 26:29them to be creative and organize themselves.
- 26:32And there's the hierarchical priesthood. But like you said, too,
- 26:35the baptismal priesthood is evident in these readings, too.
- 26:39Yeah, I think you're right. It shows the church's ability to be not necessarily imperfect,
- 26:50but certainly not prepared for every possibility that comes up.
- 26:54And yet they don't just shut themselves off and say, okay, that doesn't matter.
- 26:58Okay, I know you have problems, but we don't have time for you.
- 27:01They stopped and they listened.
- 27:03And they said, okay, explain to us what's going on. How can we do this better?
- 27:07How can we help more? How can we love more completely?
- 27:11Yes. And then they made the changes that were necessary. And they didn't just
- 27:15say, well, good luck to you. They said, no, let us help.
- 27:19And so they created new ministries to address new problems. And I think the
- 27:25church continues to do that. Absolutely.
- 27:27Yeah. And if you look at the history, what, what.
- 27:32Jesus had to overcome in his three years of ministry compared to what the church
- 27:37has had to overcome in its 2,000 years history.
- 27:40Jesus didn't have to worry about world wars and how do you keep a church going?
- 27:44Jesus didn't face the problems of abortion being so rampant.
- 27:50So many things that the church has looked at and come away with new solutions
- 27:56and new ways of living out Christ's love within the community,
- 28:01I think it shows that we've done amazing things and continue to do amazing things.
- 28:07But that's going to depend on more people continuing to come to Christ.
- 28:12The church has to continue to grow and to adapt in some ways,
- 28:19but never adapt to the point of leaving the teachings of Christ.
- 28:23It's all done within a framework, but you have to know the framework.
- 28:26You have to be strong in that framework in order to be able to do that.
- 28:29So, I think it's very promising for the future of our faith through a gospel like this.
- 28:36Jared, it's been a pleasure having you here. God bless. Have a wonderful life.
- 28:41Look forward to hearing your first Mass. I'm sure you're going to be a wonderful priest.
- 28:46Thank you, Deacon. It's been an honor to be here with you. You take care.
- 28:49May Almighty God bless you, protect you from all evil, and bring you to everlasting life.
- 28:55We'll speak to you next week again on more good news.
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