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WH Staff & Cabinet Turn on Biden, Floating the 25th Amendment · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: New bombshell report is out saying this.
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Speaker 2: From CNN that cabinet secretaries are apparently asked to submit
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Speaker 2: questions ahead of pre scripted meetings with Joe Biden.
0:17
Speaker 1: Why would CNN be breaking this news.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to make a prediction that there is a
0:22
Speaker 2: real possibility now that the cabinet, at least some in
0:27
Speaker 2: the cabinet may actually be looking at invoking the twenty
0:32
Speaker 2: fifth Amendment. I'm going to play this for you from
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Speaker 2: CNN as they broke this news, which is rattling the
0:40
Speaker 2: White House as we speak.
0:42
Speaker 3: Get the White House perspective now with sentence MJ.
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Speaker 1: Lee. Who's there for is? MJ? You and your colleagues
0:48
Speaker 1: have some reporting on the mood behind the scenes. What
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Speaker 1: are you hearing from your sources?
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Speaker 4: Well, boris, there's certainly been a lot of confusion and
0:57
Speaker 4: anger and sadness inside the White House, across the administration,
1:01
Speaker 4: the campaign, and across the Democratic Party more broadly since
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Speaker 4: the President's really halting and shocking debate performance. My colleagues
1:09
Speaker 4: and I have spoken over the course of the last
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Speaker 4: two weeks to dozens of Democratic sources, including I should
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Speaker 4: note senior Democrats who have spent real time with the president,
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Speaker 4: and in some cases have known the.
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Speaker 1: President for years.
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Speaker 4: And what has been striking is that none of them
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Speaker 4: had ever seen this version of President Biden that we
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Speaker 4: all saw on the debate stage that was so faltering
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Speaker 4: and dazed, and plenty of officials that we spoke with said, look,
1:38
Speaker 4: of course we've known that the president has aged. He
1:41
Speaker 4: is certainly not the same person that we know from say,
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Speaker 4: a year ago. But what they had said, and that
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Speaker 4: was so noteworthy, is that they said they couldn't have
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Speaker 4: possibly known about the full extent of the president's decline.
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Speaker 4: And what many of them blame at this point is
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Speaker 4: this apparatus and daily operation that is built around the
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Speaker 4: president that is so painfully choreographed and stage vantage, they said,
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Speaker 4: that is designed to prevent the president from being oftened
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Speaker 4: out in these unscripted settings for an extended period of time.
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Speaker 4: And that really what that meant was that only a
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Speaker 4: small circle of inner circle of advisors and perhaps family
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Speaker 4: members could have known about sort of this full picture
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Speaker 4: of the president's condition. Just one example that is in
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Speaker 4: our story is that, according to two sources, before cabinet
2:37
Speaker 4: meetings that the president attends, cabinet officials will submit their
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Speaker 4: questions and talking points, key talking points and bullet points
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Speaker 4: that they plan to present to the president in these
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Speaker 4: closed door meetings. This is how one source described it.
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Speaker 4: They said, the entire display is kind of an act.
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Speaker 4: They would come and say, hey, the President is going
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Speaker 4: to call on you about twenty five minutes in and
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Speaker 4: ask this question, what are the bullet points that you'll
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Speaker 4: respond with. Now, the White House's defense has been that
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Speaker 4: that is standard practice for any administration. They said, in
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Speaker 4: a setting like this, you never want the president to
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Speaker 4: be not aware of what is going to be discussed.
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Speaker 4: They want to also just be mindful of the president's time.
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Speaker 4: But we also spoke with sources from the Obama years
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Speaker 4: who said, in the cabinet meetings for former President Barack Obama,
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Speaker 4: those were never this meticulously scripted. Now, more broadly, in
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Speaker 4: response to our story and our reporting, the White House
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Speaker 4: really defended the breath of the president's travels, his engagements
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Speaker 4: with the press, and certainly his record over the last
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Speaker 4: three and a half years, and provided comments from senior
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Speaker 4: officials defending the president as being a sharp and engage
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Speaker 4: and White House spokesverson Andrew Bates also said this is
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Speaker 4: a part of his response, he said, Joe Biden has
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Speaker 4: always said that it is fair for reporters to ask
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Speaker 4: about his age, and has always confidently shown his value,
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Speaker 4: his agenda, intelligence, and determination to the American people. Well,
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Speaker 4: in just a few hours, we are of course about
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Speaker 4: to see that play out, the President taking questions from reporters,
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Speaker 4: and we certainly expect many of those questions will be
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Speaker 4: precisely about these issues.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: By the way, this is the big boy press conference
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Speaker 2: right that they are talking about, which has already been moved.
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Speaker 2: He also was sitting down with Zelenski, and people thought, hey,
4:25
Speaker 2: if you're trying to make it look like you're going
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Speaker 2: to answer questions, wouldn't you answer questions during the Zolensky
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Speaker 2: press conference. No, he said thank you, and that was
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Speaker 2: the end of it. No questions were able to be asked.
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Speaker 2: Let me go back through just some of the things
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Speaker 2: that we just learned in this report that I think
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Speaker 2: are so staggering. Number One, the cabinet secretaries are having
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Speaker 2: to submit questions and then they're given a timeline when
4:53
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Speaker 2: the bottom of the screen. During this report on CNN,
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Speaker 2: it says angry and stun Democrats blame Biden's closest advisors
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Speaker 2: for shielding the public from full extent of President's decline.
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Speaker 2: That is the biggest load of crap ever. Everybody could
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Speaker 2: see this decline, Everyone could understand it. No one was
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Speaker 2: shielding It's the president from any of his quote decline.
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Speaker 2: The only thing that has changed is now it is
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Speaker 2: in their best interests to admit that there is a
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Speaker 2: cognitive decline. Because they want to get rid of Joe Biden.
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Speaker 2: That is literally the only difference. If you ever watched
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Speaker 2: the movie The Big Short, it was about the housing
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Speaker 2: crisis in the subprime lending.
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Speaker 1: It was in two thousand and eight. There's a moment
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Speaker 1: in that.
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Speaker 2: Movie where those those that were hedging their bets and
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Speaker 2: saw this burst coming and were buying the shorting that
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Speaker 2: the housing market, they couldn't believe that as delinquencies and
8:11
Speaker 2: defaults were going up, their positions were not being marked accordingly,
8:17
Speaker 2: and so they had bought these positions and the banks
8:20
Speaker 2: were saying, hey, you got to pay us your premiums,
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Speaker 2: and they're like, how is it possible that my position
8:25
Speaker 2: hasn't changed right when when clearly there's a massive problem
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Speaker 2: happening right before our very eyes. Well, what was happening
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Speaker 2: was is the banks were trying to get ahead of it.
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Speaker 2: They knew there was a problem, and they were offloading
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Speaker 2: their assets that they knew were terrible, that were garbage
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Speaker 2: to then be able to hedge themselves from their massive losses.
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Speaker 1: And there's a moment in there with one of.
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Speaker 2: The characters, a guy that's a doctor that was brilliant
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Speaker 2: that saw the bubble really in many ways before anyone else.
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Speaker 1: He said, the phone rings and it rings.
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Speaker 2: And it's one of the people that he had bought
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Speaker 2: these options from right when he was shorting the housing market.
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Speaker 2: And finally they called him back and they're like, hey,
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Speaker 2: now we can work with you on your position. He said, no,
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Speaker 2: I think what you guys are doing is you figured
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Speaker 2: out how to unload what you need to unload to
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Speaker 2: save yourself, and now you are going to adequately assess
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Speaker 2: my position.
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Speaker 1: It was fraud.
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Speaker 2: If you ever watch that movie, The Big Short, and
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Speaker 2: if you haven't, go back and watched that moment, that
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Speaker 2: is no different than what we're seeing for the Democratic
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Speaker 2: Party in the media right now. They know there's a problem.
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Speaker 2: They knew there was a problem. They were covering up
9:43
Speaker 2: the problem because they didn't think it was going to
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Speaker 2: be a problem to after the election. Now we had
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Speaker 2: the press car or now we had the debate. Now
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Speaker 2: the problem is here, and they're having to figure out
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Speaker 2: how do we offload the president of the United States
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Speaker 2: of America because now we are caught with our pants
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Speaker 2: down and we're afraid we're about to lose. And so
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Speaker 2: now they're all reacting that no, one is acting. I
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Speaker 2: want to be very very clear here. No one is
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Speaker 2: acting here in an honest way. Okay, none of them are.
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Speaker 2: And when you have a cabinet secretaries that are forced
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Speaker 2: us to make questions ahead of prescripted meetings with the
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Speaker 2: President of the United States of America, that tells you
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Speaker 2: that they know that there has been a problem for
10:24
Speaker 2: a long time.
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Speaker 1: This has been going on for years.
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Speaker 2: And Democrat centers meeting with Biden campaign staff as pressure
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Speaker 2: builds on the president to quote exit the race was
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Speaker 2: another headline today I saw again this goes back to
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Speaker 2: you guys just finally got caught being corrupt as hell,
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Speaker 2: the idea that you're angry and stunned, right, and Democrats
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Speaker 2: are blaming Biden's close advisors for shielding him from the public,
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Speaker 2: from shielding them from the full extent of the president's decline.
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Speaker 2: You guys all knew this was your guy. You've known
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Speaker 2: it for years. You knew there was a problem for years.
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Speaker 2: The only reason why now you're outraged is because you've
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Speaker 2: got to force him out of the race, because you
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Speaker 2: are afraid you're going to lose. I keep saying it
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Speaker 2: over and over again, because I want you to understand.
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Speaker 2: None of these people have been acting responsibly. They are
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Speaker 2: all scumbags. Every person in the media that's now acting
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Speaker 2: like they're shocked at the decline of Joe Biden's a scumbag.
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Speaker 2: Every elected official that's a Democrat that's now acting like, oh,
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Speaker 2: the president's got to you know, get out of this race.
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Speaker 1: It's only because they're going to lose power.
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Speaker 2: George Clooney, by the way, scumbag as well.
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Speaker 1: Oh I love the President, but he's got to go.
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Speaker 1: You just had a fundraiser for him. He was in
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Speaker 1: decline when you did the fundraiser. Why didn't you sound
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Speaker 1: the alarm then?
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Speaker 2: Because you're a scumbag that thought you could keep power
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Speaker 2: through Biden. Now you think you can't, and now you're
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Speaker 2: pulling the rug out from under his entire administration.
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Speaker 1: These people are scumbags.
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Speaker 2: Now there's a bombshell story that is even bigger than
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Speaker 2: the one that I just told you about. That's part
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Speaker 2: two of this insanity happening right now. There is a
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Speaker 2: new report out that says that the Biden campaign has
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Speaker 2: commissioned a Trump Versus Harris poll Kamala Harris to see
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Speaker 2: if she would be better than Joe Biden. Now, this
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Speaker 2: is not somebody outside the campaign, right, It's not like
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Speaker 2: the Democratic Party did this.
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Speaker 1: It's not like some leftist group did this.
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Speaker 2: Or No, we're now being told the reporting is that
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Speaker 2: the Biden Harris campaign has reportedly commissioned an internal poll
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Speaker 2: to gauge how Vien's president Kamala Harris would perform as
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Speaker 2: the top nominee versus Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Now, who is exposing this move?
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Speaker 2: And by the way, this was a dumb move by
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Speaker 2: the campaign, unless there's people in the campaign that are
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Speaker 2: throwing Joe Biden overboard because they're afraid they're going to
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Speaker 2: lose their power. And I would expect that to be
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Speaker 2: the case, because there are also a bunch of scumbags.
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Speaker 2: And I have no doubt that this was purposely leaked
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Speaker 2: to the media to yet again put even more pressure
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Speaker 2: on Joe Biden to drop out of the race. His
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Speaker 2: own staff is turning on him, his own campaign is
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Speaker 2: turning on him.
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Speaker 1: This is either the dumbest thing I've ever seen in.
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Speaker 2: My life by any campaign to do this, or they
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Speaker 2: did it on purpose, and that's exactly what I think
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Speaker 2: they did.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're this dumb.
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Speaker 2: I think they did it and wanted to leak it,
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Speaker 2: and there's why it ended up in the New York Times.
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Speaker 2: The New York Times reporting at this hour on this development,
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Speaker 2: citing three anonymous sources who are informed about it, quote unquote,
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Speaker 2: the report comes as musings on the left about replacing
13:41
Speaker 2: Joe Biden at the top of the ticket continued to
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Speaker 2: grow in the aftermath of his disastrous debate performance. When
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Speaker 2: sent the shockwaves through the entire Democratic Party. Quote, they
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Speaker 2: did not specify why the survey was being conducted or
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Speaker 2: what the campaign planned to do with the results. Well,
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Speaker 2: we all know exactly, okay, what they're doing with this survey.
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Speaker 2: They're trying to see if Kamwa Harris can save the
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Speaker 2: day and if she's any better than Joe Biden is
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Speaker 2: right now that according to The New York Times, Maggie Haberman,
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Speaker 2: as well as Shane Goldmatcher and Read Epstein, all of
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Speaker 2: these people who note this appears to be the first
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Speaker 2: Trump versus Harris poll commissioned by the campaign since the debate.
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Speaker 2: So again, these people in the campaign, they feel like
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Speaker 2: they're going to lose their jobs. They don't want to
14:34
Speaker 2: lose their jobs. They don't want to lose their power.
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Speaker 2: And so if that means getting rid of Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: and undermining him while you're supposed to be working and
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Speaker 2: serving him as a campaign player, they don't care, because
14:46
Speaker 2: they only care about themselves.
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Speaker 1: Now. It is unclear what.
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Speaker 2: Outfit is conducting the survey for the campaign now, they
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Speaker 2: don't even have the results yet, and they're leaking this.
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Speaker 1: That's how plain this was.
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Speaker 2: The Times further noted the campaign manager and campaign chair
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Speaker 2: Dylan worked to reassure staff in an internal memo that
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Speaker 2: Biden remains the most viable candidate and that he has
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Speaker 2: a path to victory. Well, clearly they don't believe that,
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Speaker 2: because if you did believe that, you wouldn't be doing this,
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Speaker 2: damn pole. In addition to what we believe is a
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Speaker 2: clear pathway ahead for us, the memo reads, there is
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Speaker 2: also no indication that anyone else would outperform the president
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Speaker 2: versus Trump. Hypothetical pulling of alternative nominees will always be unreliable,
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Speaker 2: and surveys do not take into account the negative media
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Speaker 2: environment that any Democratic nominee will encounter. The only Democratic
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Speaker 2: candidate with whom this is already baked in is President Biden.
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Speaker 2: That is what the campaign said in their official cover
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Speaker 2: your Abs email to the staff, while they're clearly saying,
15:58
Speaker 2: we got to figure out a way to get rid
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Speaker 2: of JR. Biden, even if it means we're stuck with
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Speaker 2: Kamway Harris, if Kamala Harris is better in the polling. Notably,
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Speaker 2: a poll from the reputable Emerson College Polling published on
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Speaker 2: Tuesday showed Trump with an even bigger lead over Harris
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Speaker 2: than he has over Biden. It found that Trump led
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Speaker 2: Biden by three and Harris by six nationally and hypothetical
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Speaker 2: two ray Way races. News of the internal Harris versus
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Speaker 2: Trump poll on Thursday coincided with a report from the
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Speaker 2: Times that some of Biden's closest allies are well figuring
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Speaker 2: out a strategy to quote convince Joe to end his candidacy. Additionally,
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Speaker 2: NBC News detailed that several sources in Biden's orbit say
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Speaker 2: his bid for the White House is quote a lost cause.
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Speaker 1: He needs to drop out.
16:53
Speaker 2: One Biden campaign official told NBC News he will never
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Speaker 2: recover from this. Referring to the debate, I think there's
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Speaker 2: two takeaways from this. Number One, his own campaign is
17:09
Speaker 2: turning on him. That's pretty bad. Number two, I think
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Speaker 2: the cabinet is now leaking because they don't want to
17:18
Speaker 2: lose their power. And if you're a cabinet secretary, you
17:20
Speaker 2: don't want to go out as a loser, and so
17:23
Speaker 2: you would rather maybe even put out there the real
17:26
Speaker 2: possibility of enacting the twenty fifth Amendment. Now, the twenty
17:31
Speaker 2: fifth Amendment is a big deal, but if you're a
17:33
Speaker 2: Democrat and you don't care about democracy, if you're a
17:37
Speaker 2: Democrat and you don't care about the Constitution, because they're
17:40
Speaker 2: not even Democrats anymore. This goes back to what I've
17:42
Speaker 2: been saying for a very long time. The Democratic Party
17:45
Speaker 2: is dead. They're masquerading as Democrats because they think that's
17:48
Speaker 2: palatable enough for the American people. They are really socialists, Marxists,
17:54
Speaker 2: and communists.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's who they are.
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Speaker 2: They're socialists, Marxists, and their communists.
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Speaker 1: Period.
18:05
Speaker 2: They would absolutely overthrow Joe Biden if it means they
18:10
Speaker 2: think they can save themselves and be in power. They
18:15
Speaker 2: don't care about people. They don't care about who the
18:21
Speaker 2: people choose an election. We saw that with what they
18:23
Speaker 2: try to do, getting rid multiple times, trying to get
18:26
Speaker 2: rid of Donald Trump, They don't care if the people
18:30
Speaker 2: make a decision that they wanted Joe Biden. They don't
18:33
Speaker 2: care if they choose someone that no one has voted for.
18:37
Speaker 2: They don't care anything about this country when it comes
18:42
Speaker 2: to freedom, or democracy or the rule of law. They
18:48
Speaker 2: have weaponized our government to go after Donald Trump and
18:51
Speaker 2: try to take his assets and lock him up. Okay,
18:54
Speaker 2: so we know that. I want to be very very
18:56
Speaker 2: very clear. These people do not care whose lives they ruin.
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Speaker 2: That includes Joe Biden. I wouldn't be surprised if we
19:05
Speaker 2: start seeing some more leaks about the Biden crime family,
19:08
Speaker 2: which they've defended forever. I think that's where they're going
19:11
Speaker 2: to start hitting the Bidens next, if the Bidens don't
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Speaker 2: act now.
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Speaker 1: Let me also explain.
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Speaker 2: That there is a lot of leverage that Katamala Harris
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Speaker 2: has right now.
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Speaker 1: And I want you to understand this.
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Speaker 2: If the Cabinet can get around Harris, if the campaign
19:28
Speaker 2: can get around Harris, Harris can then go to the President.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure he's the one making the decisions.
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Speaker 2: So let's just say she goes to Joe Biden and
19:39
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden and James Biden says, look, guys. You guys,
19:43
Speaker 2: convent your dad to drop out, and I'll give you,
19:47
Speaker 2: guys whatever pardons you need. Moving forward, I'll make sure
19:52
Speaker 2: that all of this, these investigations, to the best of
19:56
Speaker 2: my ability, disappear, or will hurry up and speed up
20:00
Speaker 2: the investigations and get the convictions, and then I'll pardon
20:03
Speaker 2: all of you. I think that is the leverage that
20:08
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has that no other candidate has.
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Speaker 1: Right now.
20:12
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris can keep the same campaign staff. She's the
20:16
Speaker 2: only one that can keep all the money that's been raised.
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Speaker 2: She's the easiest person to replace the president because people
20:23
Speaker 2: did actually vote for her right as the vice president.
20:27
Speaker 2: Joe Biden could then come out with his family and say,
20:30
Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately I'm incapacitated, or I'm getting too old,
20:33
Speaker 2: or it's just too tough, and I realized for the
20:35
Speaker 2: good of the country that my vice president, who I
20:38
Speaker 2: chose four years ago for this exact reason, is going
20:40
Speaker 2: to step in. I'm going to campaign for her, and
20:44
Speaker 2: we're going to win the White House. I can write
20:47
Speaker 2: this speech and make it look perfect. I think all
20:51
Speaker 2: of those are these options that I just mentioned are
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Speaker 2: genuinely on the table, Gretchen Whitmer were coming to the
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Speaker 2: aid of Joe Biden trying to save his candidacy. Biden
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Speaker 2: in it to win it, and I'm damn proud to
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Speaker 2: support him, quote unquote. That is the big support he's
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Speaker 2: getting from Witmer. The question is will it be enough
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Speaker 2: to actually make people stop talking about what's happened in
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Speaker 2: this campaign. That's the question that I don't believe. Gretchen
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Speaker 2: Whitmer saying it is gonna have that, mapect, I really don't.
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Speaker 2: Others may disagree. Stephen Colbert saying this about the President
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Speaker 2: last night as he was doing his opening monologue, Take
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Speaker 2: a listen.
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Speaker 1: Are conflicted.
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Speaker 3: We got a clear message today from our nation's most
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Speaker 3: powerful Democratic leader, George Clooney. George wrote a New York
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Speaker 3: Times op ed titled I love Joe Biden, but we
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Speaker 3: need a new nomine adding we also need a money guy,
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Speaker 3: a safecracker, an acrobat.
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Speaker 1: And Brad Pitts.
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Speaker 3: It's the plot of Ocean's twenty four Amle's busy with
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Speaker 3: human rights stuff and I got bored.
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Speaker 1: I watched that. I love the audience reaction there.
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Speaker 2: It does tell you about how unseerious the Democratic party
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Speaker 2: is and I mean this when George Clooney is like
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Speaker 2: the new voice of the Democratic Party, you gotta kind
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Speaker 2: of laugh a little bit and sit there and you're like, really,
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Speaker 2: this is it.
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Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert also uh.
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Speaker 2: Asking this question when talking about the to the audience
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Speaker 2: about the presidency. Listen carefully, what do you mean You're
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Speaker 2: not on the same page even in the same book.
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's pretty rough.
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Speaker 3: Well, could I recommend a new book? Oh the Places
23:03
Speaker 3: for Joe? Is he mentally fit? Can he serve a
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Speaker 3: whole term? Can he beat RFK with his brain full
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Speaker 3: of worm?
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Speaker 1: Just ask him? Just ask him.
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Speaker 3: The man loves to talk as long as you ask
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Speaker 3: him before eight o'clock.
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Speaker 1: They are all in to get rid of Joe Biden.
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Speaker 2: You noticed that it was the greasy bucket of chicken guy,
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Speaker 2: Steve Cohen, who they asked that question of.
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Speaker 1: Just ask him, Just ask him.
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Speaker 2: The man makes The man loves to talk as long
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Speaker 2: as you ask him before eight o'clock. Can he serve
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Speaker 2: a whole term? You've got Late Night, you got George Clinting,
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Speaker 2: You've got others that are just coming out one after
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Speaker 2: another making it clear they they just aren't gonna stand
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Speaker 2: by and expect to lose. On election night, they're gonna
24:14
Speaker 2: get rid of Joe Biden. By the way, the Daily Show,
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Speaker 2: half of The Daily Show's focus group of black New
24:21
Speaker 2: York voters say they will vote for Donald Trump. And
24:25
Speaker 2: even on that show, The Daily Show, they said they
24:28
Speaker 2: didn't quote see that coming.
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Speaker 5: Okay, So who will you be voting for in twenty
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Speaker 5: twenty four?
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Speaker 1: There?
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Speaker 6: Do I have to see his name?
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Speaker 7: I don't want to, but more thunlikely it's gonna be Trump.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and then Victor Oh Biden Okay, Trump, Trump's Biden
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Speaker 8: Biden Trump.
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Speaker 5: Okay, we're an even split, which I didn't Yeah, I
24:56
Speaker 5: didn't see that coming. So do you think there's going
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Speaker 5: to be a big shift, any sword changed.
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Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a big shift me too, shift, Yes,
25:04
Speaker 7: really okay? For me, I've always been a Democrat, and
25:08
Speaker 7: it's like, for the most part, with the Democratic Party,
25:12
Speaker 7: they always make a bunch of promises that they can't deliver.
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Speaker 6: You know, they use the issues of the African American
25:19
Speaker 6: community as a soapbox to stand on and make promises,
25:23
Speaker 6: you know, just to get us to come out and vote,
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Speaker 6: and then once we vote and everyone's in place.
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Speaker 1: It's like with what happened?
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Speaker 2: That is a panel of all African American voters in
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Speaker 2: New York City saying this.
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Speaker 1: On the Daily Show.
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Speaker 2: And you could see it on the Daily Show, and
25:46
Speaker 2: you could see the moment where the host is like,
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Speaker 2: holy crap, half of you guys are going to vote
25:53
Speaker 2: for Trump. Gretchen Whitmer, by the way, who on the
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Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert Show last night and wanted to, you know,
26:06
Speaker 2: say how much she loves Joe Biden and supports Joe Biden,
26:09
Speaker 2: and Joe Biden's the nominee to try to be a
26:11
Speaker 2: good sarrogate for Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: It didn't go well for her either.
26:16
Speaker 2: Why because well then she said she kind of didn't
26:20
Speaker 2: watch the debate.
26:24
Speaker 3: Nice to have you on, first time I've had a
26:27
Speaker 3: chance to talk to you. Obviously, been following your career
26:29
Speaker 3: for many years now, and for the people who don't know,
26:33
Speaker 3: you're a national co chair of the Biden campaign. And
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Speaker 3: the debate is still what you know, everybody is talking about.
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Speaker 1: What debate? Did you not get a chance to catch it?
26:46
Speaker 1: Did you watch the debate? I've seen clips of the debate?
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Speaker 1: You didn't watch the debate.
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Speaker 8: I was actually out on the West coast with a
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Speaker 8: couple of my colleagues.
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Speaker 1: And they don't have fun out there.
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Speaker 3: Got they don't have television in California.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly true. What was what was your reaction?
27:03
Speaker 3: Did you were you just like, you know what, stay
27:04
Speaker 3: of the course doesn't matter?
27:05
Speaker 1: Full speed ahead, Joe? Or did you give you pause
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Speaker 1: at all?
27:08
Speaker 6: I like your time?
27:24
Speaker 1: I did know.
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Speaker 3: That's how it's gonna be okay. After the debate, forty
27:29
Speaker 3: Democrats worry about the president's cognitive abilities? Should the Democrats
27:33
Speaker 3: consider someone else? Which is not a crazy question. I
27:36
Speaker 3: mean even George Clooney today name checked you in his
27:41
Speaker 3: editorial in the New York Times that you would be
27:44
Speaker 3: an excellent option. It's got to be a little flattering,
27:47
Speaker 3: right He named checked me and a handful of other folks.
27:50
Speaker 1: And the good news is they're not here tonight, that's right.
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Speaker 4: So who cares about that?
27:55
Speaker 1: Exactly No? You know, I think that the.
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Speaker 4: Debate rattled a lot of people, right, it was a
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Speaker 4: lousy performance.
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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's I mean, did you notice the
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Speaker 2: Dodgs there? Did you get a chance to watch it?
28:09
Speaker 2: Did you watch the debate? I've seen the clips of
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Speaker 2: the debate. You didn't watch the debate, Whitmer. I was
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Speaker 2: actually out on the West Coast with a couple of
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Speaker 2: my colleagues, and they don't have TVs out there. Colbert
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Speaker 2: went on to say, I forgot they don't have television
28:23
Speaker 2: in California. I have no doubt that Gretchen Whitmore has
28:28
Speaker 2: seen the damn debate. And for her to sit there
28:32
Speaker 2: and to say I support Joe Biden while saying and
28:36
Speaker 2: claiming she didn't see the debate somehow making it seem
28:39
Speaker 2: like she's smarter is insane.
28:43
Speaker 1: It is absolutely insane.
28:46
Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert spent five minutes in seventeen seconds of his
28:51
Speaker 2: show last night warning the Democrats about Project twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: five is a radical, far right takeover of everything in
29:00
Speaker 2: the US government. Now, let me explain to you what
29:04
Speaker 2: I know about Project twenty twenty five. It was funny
29:06
Speaker 2: because two days ago my phone started ringing, and it
29:09
Speaker 2: was a lot of liberal shows, like Chris Cuomo's show,
29:12
Speaker 2: for example, and they were like, will you come on
29:15
Speaker 2: and talk about Project twenty twenty five? And I'm like, yeah,
29:17
Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to. I can do that because
29:23
Speaker 2: I don't think it's anything that we should be freaking
29:25
Speaker 2: out over. I think it's not a big deal at all,
29:30
Speaker 2: and Project twenty twenty five is not something that I
29:33
Speaker 2: am concerned over. Let me explain to you the best
29:37
Speaker 2: way I can explain Project twenty twenty five so you
29:41
Speaker 2: understand what is fact compared to what is conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation.
29:48
Speaker 2: I actually worked in that building when I worked for
29:50
Speaker 2: town Hall. It was amazing, loved loved my time there.
29:56
Speaker 2: Heritage Foundation is a hardcore conservative organization that for years
30:01
Speaker 2: has been trying to push for principal conservative values on
30:05
Speaker 2: Capitol Hill and also hold conservatives accountable and responsible when
30:12
Speaker 2: they are elected to stay true and not sell out.
30:16
Speaker 2: Heritage Foundation has done amazing job also of mentoring and
30:21
Speaker 2: growing conservatives, finding conservatives that they support that then run
30:25
Speaker 2: for office that they can stand behind and support. It's
30:29
Speaker 2: actually pretty simple. Heritage Foundation did one of the coolest
30:34
Speaker 2: things ever. This may have been twenty years ago now,
30:38
Speaker 2: and it was the Heritage Guide to the Constitution, where
30:41
Speaker 2: they had constitutional scholars go through the Constitution and then
30:44
Speaker 2: explain the Constitution in layman's terms. It is maybe one
30:49
Speaker 2: of the most powerful reads I've ever read in my
30:53
Speaker 2: entire life, excluding the Bible, because it's a way to
30:58
Speaker 2: understand the Constitution and understand what our founding father's intent
31:03
Speaker 2: was when writing the Constitution and what it means.
31:07
Speaker 1: You can still.
31:07
Speaker 2: Get copies of the Heritage Guide to the Constitution. It's
31:10
Speaker 2: on you can grab him, i think on Amazon or online.
31:13
Speaker 2: You can buy him on eBay, like, there's still very
31:16
Speaker 2: much out there, all right, So let's.
31:18
Speaker 1: Start with that.
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Speaker 2: The Heritage Foundation understood that what hurt Trump's last election
31:30
Speaker 2: cycle was is that Donald Trump was actually not ready
31:35
Speaker 2: with a deep enough staff, a deep enough plan to
31:41
Speaker 2: make a significant difference in Washington, and he was undermined. Now,
31:47
Speaker 2: when I say that he was undermined, let me excuse
31:50
Speaker 2: me expand on that.
31:53
Speaker 1: Donald Trump came in.
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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of career positions in DC, and
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Speaker 2: those career positions in DC are what they refer to
32:05
Speaker 2: as non political positions, okay, And and the non political
32:09
Speaker 2: positions that Donald Trump did not replace was something that
32:18
Speaker 2: ended up coming back to haunt him because you think
32:22
Speaker 2: that these people in non political positions are not there
32:25
Speaker 2: to undermine you and to actually undo what you're doing
32:28
Speaker 2: and to hurt you, and so Donald Trump was trusting
32:31
Speaker 2: and left them there like many other administrations, whether it's
32:34
Speaker 2: a Bush administration, Obama administration, Biden administration.
32:37
Speaker 1: Et cetera.
32:38
Speaker 2: But what's changed is we now are very very much
32:42
Speaker 2: in a political world. Okay, like it's it's incredibly the
32:47
Speaker 2: government's changed. People that used to serve our country in
32:51
Speaker 2: these non political roles, that's what they used to actually do,
32:55
Speaker 2: that's no longer the case.
32:58
Speaker 1: They no longer serve.
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Speaker 2: There are people that have infiltrated our government that are
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Speaker 2: in career positions that are supposed to stay the same
33:07
Speaker 2: in essence, that are quote non political positions, right, that
33:13
Speaker 2: are actually they've turned into extremely political positions.
33:21
Speaker 1: That's a problem.
33:23
Speaker 2: So you look at that, and what Heritage Foundation then
33:28
Speaker 2: decided was, Okay, we got bamboozled, we got screwed last time.
33:33
Speaker 2: Let's not do that again this time if Donald Trump
33:38
Speaker 2: is elected. And so what the Heritage Foundation has done
33:42
Speaker 2: is they've basically gone through and found positions that are
33:49
Speaker 2: been politicized within the government, and they're preparing to then
33:54
Speaker 2: make recommendations the Trump administration if he has elected on
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Speaker 2: real conservatives that they've already vetted that they've already set
34:04
Speaker 2: down with, they've already talked to that they believe would
34:08
Speaker 2: make great replacements for the people that are there that
34:13
Speaker 2: are lefties, that are radical. Right now now, I think
34:16
Speaker 2: it's pretty clear that our government has lost its way
34:19
Speaker 2: on a level that none of us could have actually
34:21
Speaker 2: imagined just how bad it is until we've witnessed the
34:24
Speaker 2: Biden administration. And I'm talking about people that are extremely political.
34:29
Speaker 2: I also think we know a lot more now about
34:31
Speaker 2: those in our government that were there solely to undermine
34:34
Speaker 2: every single thing that Donald Trump was doing when Donald
34:38
Speaker 2: Trump was president of the United States of America. And remember,
34:41
Speaker 2: you're supposed to serve at the pleasure of the president,
34:44
Speaker 2: meaning you're supposed to support and help and advocate for
34:50
Speaker 2: the president of the United States of America when you
34:53
Speaker 2: were in when you're serving the president. There were a
34:56
Speaker 2: lot of people in Trump's last term that they were
35:00
Speaker 2: not serving him. They were not advocating for him, they
35:04
Speaker 2: were not following through on his wishes as president, which
35:07
Speaker 2: is what you're supposed to do. They were there undermining
35:12
Speaker 2: the president. They were there doing his plans. So what
35:20
Speaker 2: the Heritage Foundation is now done is they've said Okay,
35:22
Speaker 2: we now know this, right like we understand it.
35:25
Speaker 1: We now know it, we get it.
35:27
Speaker 2: And so what we're going to do now is we're
35:29
Speaker 2: going to put together a list, a very extensive, a
35:33
Speaker 2: very deep bench of conservatives that we've vetted. So we're
35:38
Speaker 2: not vetting them after election day, but we've got a
35:41
Speaker 2: plan in place for January twentieth, twenty twenty five, where
35:45
Speaker 2: the president can come in in a big way, and the.
35:48
Speaker 1: President can really have a deep bench.
35:53
Speaker 2: Of individuals that we can recommend to this administration.
35:58
Speaker 1: That shouldn't sound scary to anyone.
36:01
Speaker 2: I understand why it sounds scary to the Democrats, but
36:04
Speaker 2: it shouldn't sound like anything nefarious to conservatives. We're just
36:10
Speaker 2: learning to play the same way democrats play. Make sure
36:14
Speaker 2: you share this podcast with your family and friends, please,
36:17
Speaker 2: because a lot of what I just played for you're
36:18
Speaker 2: not going to hear on the news.
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Speaker 1: And I'll see you back here tomorrow.